"Serbia does not have that kind of money": Vucic is going to ask Putin to lower prices for Russian gas

Serbian President Aleksandar (Aleksandar) Vucic made a statement on gas prices. According to Vucic, today Belgrade has no financial ability to pay for "blue fuel" the price offered by Russia in the discussion of the future contract.

The President of Serbia, on the air of one of the Serbian TV channels, recalled that today the country buys gas from Russia at $ 270 per 1000 cubic meters, with a daily volume of purchases of about 6,5 million cubic meters. According to Vucic, this is the best price in Europe.

Vucic:

At the same time, our gas reserves are being depleted because consumption has increased. By winter, we will consume more than 11,5 million cubic meters of gas per day. As you can imagine, this is almost twice as much as purchases.

The current contract with the Serbs expires in December this year. President Vucic announced that at the upcoming (in November) meeting with Vladimir Putin he would like to discuss the parameters of the new contract, which will take effect from 2022. According to Vucic, Serbia "does not have enough money to pay for gas at $ 790-800."

Vucic:

Who has them?

Vucic is going to ask Putin for a reduction in gas prices for Serbia.

Where did the $ 800 price come from. The fact is that Moscow is offering its partners in Europe a new version of contracts, which provides for the following parameters: 70 percent of the price for “blue fuel” will be the exchange price (and today these prices are extremely high), and 30% - the so-called “oil formula ". Belgrade wants it to be the other way around in terms of percentage ratio - exchange prices would not exceed 30 percent.

Vucic:

However, this will be extremely difficult for us, because the price will be about $ 510 per 1 cubic meters of gas. I would like to discuss these issues with my Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin.

The Serbian president said that gas prices in Europe "have reached an unimaginable $ 1900 per 1000 cubic meters." He called this situation abnormal.

It should be recalled that a few days ago the Serbian leader met with Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov. Various issues were discussed at the meeting, including preparations for a visit to the Russian Federation.

Comments

[Fungus]

We need to help the Serbs

[Pessimist22]

Let them be part of Russia and receive gas at domestic prices.

[Stas157]

... "Serbia does not have that kind of money": Vucic is going ask Putin lower prices for Russian gas

But the Serbian minimum wage is almost the size of the Russian average wage. But our king gives the Serbs the best price in Europe. But the Russians are cutting back on social services and medicine.

What is it from? Maybe because we are his do not askto do something for us too?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stas157

but our king gives the Serbs the best price in Europe.

at least you can read the article?

The best price mentioned by Vucic is the price for old contract, ending in December.

They groan at the price offered by Russia for the new contract.

Quote: Stas157

But the Russians

But the Russians pay simply RUNNY gas prices, compared to the West, where they are constantly growing for consumers this fall, and so much that they cannot be paid for by a huge number of consumers.

[Stas157]

Quote: Olgovich

The best price mentioned by Vucic is this is the price for an old contract ending in December.

Well, did he give it or not? Or was it not?

[Olgovich]

Quote: Stas157

Well, did he give it or not? Or was it not?

PREVIOUSLY they gave it under the old contract, when the gas on the spot was $ 50, and under the contract the Serbs paid $ 270.

According to the new Serbs are asking for $ 510

[Xnumx vis]

Serbs need a discount! Show all new Yevropeytsy that those who are friends with Russia and help from Russia. And hostile, arrogant and stupid have a different price. Whoever deserves it will get it.

[Shurik70]

Let the Serbs be given a low price, they will.
Do not doubt.
Russia always helps if asked.
Irrespective of foreign policy.
The mentality is

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Shurik70

Let the Serbs be given a low price, they will.
Do not doubt.

Remember the childhood adage - "Today is Sunday, Good kids have cookies, and bad guys have a thick stick on their sides. Nothing new. Carrot and stick. And everyone understands, it gets through well. Russia is sympathetic and strong, but not simple, not stupid in its kindness .."

[vargo]

They will, but not for nothing. Believe me, there will be a number of other agreements we need behind the shadow. Lately it has always been so, and rightly so. Discounts in exchange for markets or the lobbying we need. No one else will give gifts just like that. And given the entire role of the EU in how gas relations with Gazprom are now being built, no one is in a hurry to pull a helping hand. They took the money back from us, when it was profitable for them, now the return flows, and that money will be returned.

[Hypertension]

Quote: 30 vis

Show all new Yevropeytsy that those who are friends with Russia and help from Russia.

Russians are very friendly with Russia ... Why are they "friends" - love to the grave.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: 30 vis

Serbs need a discount! Show all new Yevropeytsy that those who are friends with Russia and help from Russia. And hostile, arrogant and stupid have a different price. Whoever deserves it will get it.

Why does Russia need "friends for a discount" ???
The USSR had many "friends" and where are these "friends" now ...
Friendship - friendship, and gas at market prices or Serbia sells its goods to Russia with a "friendly discount"?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: cat Rusich

Why does Russia need "friends for a discount" ???
The USSR had many "friends" and where are these "friends" now ...
Friendship - friendship, and gas at market prices or Serbia sells its goods to Russia with a "friendly discount"?

That is, you won't help your friend in a difficult situation?

[cat Rusich]

Quote: 30 vis

That is, you won't help your friend in a difficult situation?

Imagine ...
You are selling cans of gas for lighters. Your friend, an experienced smoker, asks you to sell a can with gas at a discount.
You get into a difficult position other and sell him a can with a good discount.
In a week, all smokers in the city become yours friends and demand discounts on baloni ...
You need such "friends" ?

[Xnumx vis]

And I imagine that in difficult times my friend will stand next to me back to back. I have few friends. Russia too. And help a true friend is a holy cause. Moreover, at one time Russia betrayed him, abandoned one in a deadly war ... But the Serbs nevertheless love us! Respect!

[Note]

Well, this is our gas. National property. Or not? Although I will not be surprised if soon our goods, which in fact should belong to all the people, will be sold to us at prices close to Europe

[V means B]

And it turns out that you need to ask him?) And I thought that it was his job to do for us)

[isv000]

Quote: Stas157

But the Serbian minimum wage is almost the size of the Russian average wage. But our king gives the Serbs the best price in Europe. But the Russians are cutting back on social services and medicine.

Father gets gas for $ 129 and never raises the question of gas prices, prudently keeps mum ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Pessimist22

Let them be part of Russia and receive gas at domestic prices.

The proposal is interesting, but impractical. Russia will get another enclave isolated from all sides by unfriendly states, and given the fact that they are part of NATO, then hostile. If we can get to Kaliningrad by sea, then how to Serbia?

[isv000]

Quote: Nyrobsky

If we can get to Kaliningrad by sea, then how to Serbia?

No wonder they kicked Montenegro into NATO, broke it on the knee ...

[Toucan]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

Only in exchange for legally binding obligations. Russia should follow the example of China. The same Serbs bought Chinese air defense systems, and they are asking for economic support from us. It is high time for the Russian leadership to turn its face to its people, and not to be kind with "partners".

[Alien From]

Here is the savage grin of capitalism. Let them pay like everyone else.

[Shelest2000]

Are you sure that we are "our people" for our leadership? I am strongly convinced of the opposite.

[Flooding]

Quote: Shelest2000

Are you sure that we are "our people" for our leadership? I am strongly convinced of the opposite.

this power does not have its own people
anywhere and not at all
have only their own selfish interests
alas it is so
well, parasites cannot have their "favorite organism" on which they parasitize
perhaps, over time, in an evolutionary way, this relationship is transformed into something else

[isv000]

Quote: Tucan

The same Serbs bought Chinese air defense systems, and they are asking for economic support from us.

It is a sin for the Serbs to be poor: they receive gas under the contract for $ 270, while sales in Europe are spinning around $ 2000 - a non-acidic margin! Their UGS facility is one of the largest in Europe, back in September it was filled to the eyeballs, and now the gas is running out, they say. Where is the money, Zin?

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

And if you help everyone, nothing breaks themselves ?! Also, so that gas prices do not rise in the country against the background of market prices! If anyone wants discounts, then let them think what they will pay for, dear Europeans, sanctioners!
Ukraine also wants gas and eternal transit ...

[alexmach]

And if you help everyone, nothing breaks themselves ?!

Let's be clear. The orgy with gas prices that is happening now is temporary. It won't last long. The current situation should definitely be used. But not in order to fill your pockets right now and then destroy the market and close your way to it. It should be used in order to strengthen its position in this market. Again, the Serbs are not at all to blame for the current situation .. It was created by European regulators, Swiss arbitration, the same cunning Poles. It is with them that you need to "work" in the first place.

[Kot_Kuzya]

Go help. Transfer your September salary to the "brothers". But seriously, let the Serbs pay like all Europeans, the market has decided! The Chinese won, they buy liquefied gas from the Arabs and the United States at $ 2000 per thousand cubic meters, and nothing, they do not whine and do not ask to lower the price.

[ultra]

LNG has a unit of measure called ton and, accordingly, the price on the exchange per ton.

[svp67]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

And what then are the Belarusians worse? And as soon as we started talking about a separate price for Serbia, then Bulgaria "surfaced" and declared that since gas for Serbia goes through its territory, then for it the gas price should be lower than that of Serbia ...
And what about this?

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: svp67

then Bulgaria "surfaced" and said that since gas for Serbia goes through its territory, then for it the gas price should be lower than that of Serbia ...
And what about this?

Let them cut for transit as much as they can (strengthening the unity of the ES ).

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

In my opinion, the Serbs need help, but not to the detriment of our economy. It is possible to find, if not an economic, then a political compromise. And let the Bulgarians (with all due respect) help their beloved EU. The Bulgarians had the opportunity to become a gas hub. They not only did not take advantage of, but also sold themselves to Europe.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

In my opinion, the Serbs need help, but not to the detriment of our economy. It is possible to find, if not an economic, then a political compromise. ...

According to European Commissioner Johannes Hahn (15 September 2017) Serbia may become a member of the European Union to 2025g.
Negotiations will be completed by 2023, and two years for the ratification of the agreement by the EU countries.
Serbs have chosen another family - European ...

[Ivan Moljkovic]

No, not the Serbs, but our "elites".

[cat Rusich]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

No, not the Serbs, but our "elites".

And who voted for these "elites" in the parliamentary and presidential elections?
When Milosevic was handed over to The Hague to be torn apart, they kept silent.
Now don't complain ...

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Less then 25% voted for Vucic. Hardly that represent the will of the people. Don't trust everything that you hear on tv.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Less then 25% voted for Vucic. Hardly that represent the will of the people ..

This shows that 75% of the people of Serbia no will.

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Don't trust everything that you hear on tv.

Vucic says on TV "Serbia doesn't have that kind of money ..." - maybe he's lying? and Serbia has pennies to buy gas at the "market price" ...

Next comment write in Chinese

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Well, no. After fighting Romans, Byzantine empire, Ottoman empire, Turkey, Bulgarians, AustroHungarian empire, Germany, NATO, and winning those wars, to see that we have no will is just ridicles.
As for the gas.Ofcorse that Russia doesn't have to help Serbia with cheep gas, same as Serbia didn't have to give parts of F117 to Russia or Chinesse in 1999 war with NATO, same as Russia didn't have to inform us about NATO warships and warplanes in Adriatic sea but we did and you did.
Nevertheless, what ever the price of gas hold Russia set for us we should sign a concract for at least 15 years.
Well, I don't speak chinese.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Well, I don't speak chinese.

Serbia, remember how in 2017 Russia donated in the framework of military-technical assistance 6 MiG-29, 30 T-72S, 30 BRDM-2 few...
Now let's get cheap gas ...

[Ros 56]

How, how, on foot erotic journey of such brothers. We have our own population.

[Terenin]

Quote: Ros 56

How, how, on foot erotic journey of such brothers. We have our own population.

They took off the tongue about the brothers.
We have not forgotten their arrogance when the "frayer turned back" by agreement with the pipeline.

[Ros 56]

I don’t digest traitors organically since early childhood, and already in the 90s I saw enough of some "friends".

[Terenin]

Quote: Ros 56

I don’t digest traitors organically since early childhood, and already in the 90s I saw enough of some "friends".

Traitors are not digested by anyone.

[Amin_vivec]

are not digested, then yes ... But for some reason they are not translated either ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Amin_Vivec

are not digested, then yes ... But for some reason they are not translated either ...

Because there are two opposing camps.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Well, if you look from this side, then we are still traitors. You can list the countries that we passed in the 90s for a long time. So when blaming others, you need to remember yourself.

[Flooding]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Well, if you look from this side, then we are still traitors. You can list the countries that we passed in the 90s for a long time. So when blaming others, you need to remember yourself.

Well done! Not in the eyebrow, but in the eye!
We are all great lovers of looking for a speck in someone else's eye.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Well, if you look from this side, then we are still traitors. You can list the countries that we passed in the 90s for a long time. So when blaming others, you need to remember yourself.

Who are we? We did not betray anyone or sell ourselves to the Americans. You should have realized this back in the 90s. They betrayed us. Betrayed by those to whom we have entrusted the administration of the country. We did not forgive the debts that were once taken from our parents and from us in the form of all sorts of omissions in the construction of our own social structure. It was we who received less kindergartens, modern schools, clinics and hospitals (in the USSR it was possible to build everything).
It still didn't reach you that the EBN's seizure of power in the country was the most common coup, and not an expression of the will of the people. They decided that for us. And we (for the most part) decided that everything will resolve by itself. Then they began to fear that it would not be worse. And after us, they simply imposed a tribute in the form of a living wage and minimum wage, taxes and VAT legalized for us ...
Does anyone else have doubts that Gazprom is a national treasure? Do you still think that someone will listen to all this confusion and draw the proper conclusions: turn to face the people? Fuck there! First, they need to sew on "chicken legs" ...

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Are these excuses? Do you think that the same ordinary Cuban (Korean, etc.) understands our domestic politics? I think not, he just saw that the USSR (Russia) had betrayed him.
But if it is easier for you, take it as you see fit.

[Amin_vivec]

Outwardly, there was control, the comprador elites also still exist ... But all these in the same basket with the people and the country should not be put.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I saw the country and people in those days - "our hearts demand changes." Also tell me what's wrong. The 300000th rallies demanding change is not an indicator? There is no need to deny the obvious - in us, as in any other people (country), there was something impartial, but something wonderful. So you shouldn't consider yourself (us) infallible (exceptional) - it won't lead to anything good. Learning from mistakes and not repeating them ... this will be the correct conclusion from the past.

[Amin_vivec]

The presence of a huge crowd does not exclude the possibility of managing it, does not exclude its artificial creation and direction for solving goals different from the goals of the crowd.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

The same can be said about the people (any). True, I think this will come back to haunt later, a rollback will occur (like we have, for example). In Ukraine, they generally mold something incomprehensible, what will happen, how it will respond in the future ... I cannot imagine yet. And if you touched on the topic of crowd control (people, humanity) ... just look at Germany during the Nazi era ... there were people there too.

[Amin_vivec]

I agree, ignorance does not absolve from responsibility.
After the war, the Germans were shown films from concentration camps in cinemas - and they refused to believe it.
Many, or some, ordinary people did not know about the crimes of Nazism, and were not involved.
And yet the German people bore their responsibility.
Nobody canceled collective guilt.
But the Nazi elite bore one responsibility, and the German people quite another.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Well, if you look from this side, then we are still traitors. You can list the countries that we passed in the 90s for a long time. So when blaming others, you need to remember yourself.

In the 90s, there was a question about survival of Russia as a state, as a unified state.
Maybe Cuba sent Russia sugar aid ...?
We, Russia, have already written off the "Soviet debt" to Cuba ...

[Mordvin 3]

Quote: cat Rusich

Maybe Cuba sent Russia sugar aid ...?

The USA sent us help. The one that held Cuba in an economic blockade.

[cat Rusich]

Quote: mordvin xnumx

Quote: cat Rusich

Maybe Cuba sent Russia sugar aid ...?

The USA sent us help. ...

Remembered about "Bush legs"

[Mordvin 3]

There were also Bundeswehr rations in the 80s. With chewing gum.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

So how? Survived? Ukraine, Belarus, I do not take Kazakhstan and other territories that we have lost, but these relatives of ours ... survived? Or are we just a fragment of a great empire? Have you thought about it? Think about it.
It was not they (Cuba) who pulled us into the social. camp, and we have them. And since we are, then a certain responsibility for them lay on us. And with such an approach like yours ... capitalist or something (to put it mildly) ... You are unlikely to find support from at least one of the former allies of the USSR. There they fought for the idea, but here you are counting money.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Ros 56

I don’t digest traitors organically since early childhood, and already in the 90s I saw enough of some "friends".

Betrayal can never be forgiven.

[SKVichyakow]

After all the constant quirks of our former "brothers and sisters", there should be only market relations. No brothers and relatives, a nipple-type system, we give you and you nothing to us, it's time to exclude from our relations. My own people, I think, should still live better than now.

[Ros 56]

Absolutely correct thought, a country that ensures the survival of others should live better than those it provides. In my opinion, everything is logical.

[mitroha]

Bulgaria "surfaced"

[Ros 56]

She did not drown and let her rejoice.

[vitvit123]

Is Russia not helping Belarus? Doesn't help much? Curiously, at what price does the gas burn? And who pays this price? Isn't it another loan from Russia ...
No, no, I'm not against Belarus, your comment is just not clear ...

[SKVichyakow]

I wrote it. Only when they need it, we are for them and an older brother and sister and relatives in all generations. When anything is needed from them, they are ALL independent and self-reliant.

[Keyser soze]

then Bulgaria "surfaced" and said that since gas for Serbia goes through its territory, then for it the gas price should be lower than that of Serbia ...

Fake. We have no problem paying you gas. Gas prices are fair - this is the exchange. Today they are 1200 dollars, yesterday they were 30, tomorrow they will fall again. And the pipe is truly ours, we built it, but Gazprom pays pretty much for transit and I have not seen anything in our press about negotiations with Gazprom. Serbs have only your gas and we get Azeri gas at reduced prices. Plus, the storage facilities are full of gas for $ 30, so we will survive the peak of the price.

And Serbs are just whining, trying to get to the bottom of the low prices. It's your business how to sell them, at least 2000 at least 20, for us it makes no difference.

[Errr]

Evgeny, do you still sell gas to the population at $ 0,45 per m³, as in the first half of the year?

[Keyser soze]

Evgeny, do you still sell gas to the population at $ 0,45 per m³, as in the first half of the year?

I don’t know dear, I don’t want to lie. Probably not. But you need to take into account our specifics - our gasification of the population is very, very low. The climate is different. For you, having gas at home is a standard, but for us it is an exception. We have gas at home - it's bottles, or whatever it is called in Russian - it seems like cylinders, for a gas stove and that's it.
We buy minuscule gas - 3 billion cubic meters per year, and it is for industry. And how will the industry survive - let them raise prices for their products and that's it. This is one way or another global trend, what to do.
Yes, and you should think about it, because imported inflation will affect you too - energy prices will go up in the domestic market, and let's not talk about imports - it will all rise in price. The crisis with energy carriers is not local, for Europe it is global, so it will not be sweet for ordinary citizens around the world.
Yesterday, the European Commission issued a statement that it will increase money for the Green Transition. Brussels said that this dependence on gas and oil has crossed all reasonable boundaries and must be eliminated. This is how the EU reacted. I don’t know how it will turn out, but what, what and the EU has a fig and they are determined to give it for energy independence, not for oil and gas.
Keep in mind that I have read it in the press, I am not an expert on energy sources. Here my sonarist Peter can say more - he is in Bulgargaz, it seems he worked, or something of a sort.

[tralflot1832]

Yes, in the European Commission, after Covid, they are not at all friendly. It is necessary to develop green energy, it will take more than a day to build a wind turbine. But they don’t want to go to Gazprom. Norway is blown away. France, Sweden and Norway are not rubber for the production of electricity. And you are lucky that when joining the EU, the Kozloduy NPP was not completely closed. You are an exporter of electricity, unlike some, Serbia is also an exporter. True, the figures are for 2020.

[Keyser soze]

Hi Andrew,

Yes, the European Commission after Covid is not at all friendly.

Nobody likes the European Commission. This is a fact, but we also have to be fair - the European Commission pours well, just a lot of money to countries for this Green Transition. Yesterday we adopted a plan and will give 6,6 billion euros for this transition. This is plus the standard 23 billion until 2027, and this is all donated funds. These are not loans or debts. The economy just bounces up from such cash infusions and changes.

it takes more than a day to build a windmill

Well, Green Crossing is not a windmill. They give us money to transfer industry to new energy-saving technologies. New machines, new technologies. Or the population on the transition from firewood and coal to new boilers on pellets. My father-in-law was completely free of charge changed the boiler on coal, in a private house, on such one on pellets (according to you, these are tablets, it seems). Or the transition of coal plants to hydrogen. Or the construction of charging stations for electric vehicles. Here in this grade. Or the transition of public transport to electric traction. New vehicles are being bought in cities using European funds. And the windmills are being built by private companies - the state is not involved in this. Now it is being discussed to simplify the installation of photovoltaics for the population. And there the consumption of energy will fall. So the Green Transition is a long strategy, 20-30 years, and it will work in the future.

[tralflot1832]

It bummed in England, and Bora is in Spain. The cable remained well with the norgs.

[alexmach]

Green crossing is not a windmill. They give us money to transfer industry to new energy-saving technologies. New machines, new technologies. Or the population on the transition from firewood and coal to new boilers on pellets

This is definitely correct.

And the windmills are being built by private companies - the state is not involved in this.

Yeah of course. And nothing that the cost of the energy they produce is more expensive than the energy from thermal power plants, and that they need to be subsidized to build and operate them? In my contract for the supply of electricity, I have such an opportunity - to take a green tariff, which is slightly more expensive than usual :)

[vitvit123]

Yes, everything is fine with you, we do not need to prove it .. you live very richly, we are in sandals ... green energy is developing - just a bomb !!! Gas, oil is not needed !!! Russians rub down !!! All this is clear !! It is not clear why everyone needs cheap gas ...

[Ros 56]

Or the construction of charging stations for electric vehicles. Here in this grade. Or the transition of public transport to electric traction.

Electricity is a good thing, only where will you get so much of it and where will you put the batteries that have been used up. Their processing is also very expensive.

[Bagatur]

I have gas ... We will see how we pay ... two more weeks before the judgment day)))

[alexmach]

We have no problem paying you gas. Gas prices are fair - UTB exchange

That's wonderful!

Yesterday, the European Commission issued a statement that it will increase money for the Green Transition.

Flag in your hands, and a locomotive to meet. Also, do not forget to give up nuclear energy! Russia will benefit exclusively from this.

The EU has a lot of money and they are determined to give it for energy independence, not for oil and gas.

Uh-huh ... But your "Green Transition" has a completely opposite relationship to energy independence.

[Keyser soze]

Also, do not forget to give up nuclear energy!

And this is with what fright? France, Bulgaria, Czech Republic, Finland and 6 other countries have supported the development of nuclear power in the EU. Yesterday Timermans, the deputy chief of the European Commission, said in Sofia that they will support the development of nuclear energy in Bulgaria.

Russia will benefit exclusively from this.

But I didn't understand how it turns out and what is the benefit of the Russian Federation from the development or not of nuclear power in Bulgaria. You are far away and you cannot sell current to us. And if we do not build Belene, then Rosatom will not receive money either.

[Errr]

Quote: Keyser Soze

And if we do not build Belene, then Rosatom will not receive money either.

So it seems that he will never see your money. Is it just in a dream. Obviously, now only Westinghouse Electric Company LLC will make money from you. Sadness.

[Keyser soze]

Obviously, now only Westinghouse will make money from you.

Not true. We have two Russian reactors in our warehouse, so there’s nothing without Rosatom. And Rosatom made a consortium with Framatom and GE Steam Power for the Belene project. They will sort out the money there. Everyone wants to eat. Enemies are only in the press, and when you need to make money, all are friends ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Eugene, your country is not going to offend. But understand, and you - if we proceed from your words, then God himself ordered Bulgaria to be a gas hub. Moreover, 300 years of common history and faith cannot be erased from people's memory. But ... your leadership caved in under the EU. I think I will express the opinion of many Russians if I say that they did not expect this from someone but from Bulgaria. So, we would be glad to help, but ....
"I would like to help. But I can't. I am deprived of the opportunity to trust" the phrase of Captain Iivlev. from "Young Russia" Y. German.

[Keyser soze]

If we proceed from your words, then God himself ordered Bulgaria to be a gas hub. Moreover, 300 years of common history and faith cannot be erased from people's memory. But ... your leadership caved in under the EU.

Andrei Nikolaevich, here we need to divide the issue of gas - South Stream into two. I apologize again and clarify that I am not an expert on energy carriers and my opinion is that of an ordinary Bulgarian man in the street.
First, South Stream did not work out, not because we really didn’t want to. Gazprom did not manage to come to an agreement with the European Commission on the Third Energy Package, and this is the law in the EU. So Gazprom wanted the pipe in Bulgaria to be its property. And it didn’t come together. What happened then - the Balkan stream is now our property and Gazprom transits gas through it to Serbia and Hungary. You have the same thing now as a problem with SP2. Absolutely the same - the pipe is yours and Gazprom is the only supplier. Gazprom hopes for the winter, but how it will turn out - we'll see how you say it.
Second - We caved in under the EU. Well, do you understand the EU is supranational education and it has its own laws, which have supremacy over national legislation. So what you call this "deflection" and we are obliged to comply with the Third Energy Package. The benefits from the EU are so great that one pipe does not matter here - for comparison, I will tell you that the EU invested 183 billion euros in gratuitous funds in Poland alone, from 2007 to 2020. No pipe will give this money, that's why we do not really bother to comply with the EU law. And the last is the market. Our export is tied to the EU - more than 70%, and about 0,25% of our export goes to you. So this also explains why we comply with EU laws. This is our benefit for the economy.
Well, something like this.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

This is our benefit for the economy.
You can't argue with that ...

[Keyser soze]

This is our benefit for the economy.
You can't argue with that ...

Yes, and I also remembered something on the topic. Allow me a little historical and economic excursion into the past?
Let's remember where Yugoslavia was in the days of socialism? Remember? And I remember - Yugoslavia had more than warm ties with the Americans and capitalism. And we built our economy only on the basis of SEB. And what did you get when you dismissed the Union and SEV? And rightly so - in 5 minutes we were left without economy. In general, everything collapsed. Do you think that only you had the dashing 90s? But no. It took us 25 years to rebuild our economy in the EU and work with the capitalist world. We did not understand at all what capitalism is and what it is eaten with. It is on the issue that you do not have confidence in us. Well, you and we are already capitalists, so distrust is healthy and useful ... Many of your colleagues said that the Union supported everyone. Well, now for 30 years, do not contain anyone, which means that there should be no grievances between you and us, so the claims to our EU membership are also inadequate, economically and politically. Something like that, dear captain Iivlev ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Great answer! That is, do you agree that in the current world of capitalism, there is no place for the concept of "fraternal people"?

[Oleg Zorin]

Keyser Soze's comment is really great. Very sane and balanced As for the "fraternal peoples" - let me remind you of the Russian proverb: friendship is friendship, and money is apart!

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Similar in Serbia: "Maybe we are brothers, but our wallets are not sisters".

[Keyser soze]

That is, do you agree that in the current world of capitalism, there is no place for the concept of "fraternal people"?

Of course - Governments should think about their own people. And brotherly peoples are when we drink vodka with a snack, on a personal level

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Thanks. What was required to prove. Thus, when it is beneficial to your people, we are "brothers". When your people are NOT profitable, we are "independent and independent." In general, a similar situation lasted for almost 30 years, with Ukraine.
In that case, let me ask you just one question: Why do we need "fraternal peoples"?
Both from a political and economic point of view, such a "brotherhood" is pulling Russia into poverty.

[Keyser soze]

Thus, when it is beneficial to your people, we are "brothers". When your people are NOT profitable, we are "independent and independent."

Yes, no one in Bulgaria has ever said that we are brothers, in the last 30 years, Andrei. We are part of a completely different federal state - the EU, with our own market and currency and laws and parliament, etc. The good attitude of the Bulgarians to the Russians is to say thank you only to the Russian Imperial Army. In principle, Bulgarians are Russophiles - for 72% of the population, Russians are friends and brothers. But this is at the household level. And exactly the same percentage is on the opinion that our future is in the EU and not in an alliance with Russia. Your state has nothing attractive, excuse me for being frank - you have even perverted capitalism into neo-feudalism. Your standard of living is miserable, ideology is not, democracy is not, your governance is like in a medieval monarchy - an irreplaceable tsar in the 21st century. For Eastern Europeans, you have nothing attractive.

Both from a political and economic point of view, such a "brotherhood" is pulling Russia into poverty.

This is not for us. We buy everything according to market prices from you. And if you are destitute by providing assistance to your allies and brothers, then that is the question in the hands of your leadership.

In that case, let me ask you just one question: Why do we need "fraternal peoples"?

I don’t know - this term is your invention. For example, the EU is donating billions of euros to Eastern Europe, but does not insist on brotherhood.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Thanks for the answer. At least honestly.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: Keyser Soze

Fake. We have no problem paying you gas. Gas prices are fair - this is the exchange.

Evgeniy! You shouldn't pay attention to lines that don't say anything. In Russia, the population does not own anything. Everything has long been sold out and rewritten by clan, and then some of the audience decide that all unquestioningly adopted the wolf laws ... This kind of good has become full in every country of the former socialist camp.
Sometimes the nerves give up, although it is understandable that way: the opinion about any problem is formed by the corrupt media. Ordinary people see problems and think differently.

[alexmach]

And what then are the Belarusians worse?

Belarusians? And how are they worse? In general, Belarusians have the most favorable gas prices in Europe, the Serbs never dreamed of such.

how did Bulgaria "surface" and announced

There is only one option - to cooperate in accordance with European norms, as the Bulgarians actually wanted. And these norms require, I stress they demand, to take into account market prices.

[isv000]

Quote: svp67

then Bulgaria "surfaced" and said that since gas for Serbia goes through its territory, then for it the gas price should be lower than that of Serbia ...
And what about this?

See the photo of the process above, Kravchuk beautifully demonstrates!

[Ros 56]

Alas, the moderators have already said their word, or rather done the job. We removed the comment along with the picture of the process.

[Slaven]

And the Belarusians have a low price, and let the Bulgarians go through the forest. Helping Bulgaria is a mistake.

[Ros 56]

And who is against, there is money, help. Only who will help our children and pensioners, let the rest earn their own money.

[Terenin]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

It is not yet clear what the Serbs need. Live well
I would like to be cheaper, of course.

Vutich. At the same time, our gas reserves are being depleted because consumption has increased.

This should have been foreseen. We did not refuse to discuss.

So what are your suggestions? Or just

Vucic is going to ask Putin for a reduction in gas prices for Serbia.

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Serbs need for Vucic and co to leave

[Terenin]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Serbs need for Vucic and co to leave

So not all Serbs need Vutich to leave

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Not all, just about 80%.

[Terenin]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Not all, just about 80%.

Learn Russian language Very interesting!

[Ivan Moljkovic]

Well, it is the next on my list, after 6 months QA course I just started.

[Terenin]

Quote: IvanMoljkovic

Well, it is the next on my list, after 6 months QA course I just started.

Results of neither quality nor wool-month course are visible so far
The guys from Bulgaria try at least and we understand them, and sometimes do not pay attention to the wrong spelling and style

[max702]

There is such a company Velesstroy engaged in the construction of oil and gas industry facilities, so here it is half Serbian, take an interest in the comments of the workers thereof about the Serbs .. And yes, their salary is at least twice as high as that of our employees in similar positions, and they are paid for the shift in the difference from ours .. So no help, and 500 euros per thousand is still very cheap in Asia with hands and tears for 1200, and soon winter, so take it while they give ...

[knn54]

"If you give to everyone, the bed will break."

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

GOD help!
Only please, at the expense of YOUR budget!

[suhorukofal]

Why did you drown in the minuses? Serbia constantly supports Russia in the UN, somehow you can lend a helping hand, bring down the minuses

[Akuzenka]

Duc, this one! Capitalism in Europe! And Serbia is in it. Moreover, this is not a proposal from Gazprom, but the third energy package in Europe, which forces 70% of gas to be sold at the exchange price. So Vucic needs to write a petition to Brussels, and after approval (of course!), Beat Putin with his brow, remember the fraternal peoples, the invaluable friendship and something else they are supposed to remember when they beg for indulgences.

[The leader of the Redskins]

This will not last long. The prices are clearly overpriced and they are fanning out on their own, on strangers, on manufacturers and users.
I think that soon something will "break through" somewhere ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

I think that soon something will "break through" somewhere ...

In capitalism, speculative bubbles break regularly, but this teaches nothing.

[Jacket in stock]

so they really want the EU, so let them feel ...

[askort154]

To whom, to whom, but Gazprom will not let the Serbs freeze. The only island in the NATO swamp.

[Graz]

only give to give any charity. and then the others will want to sit on their necks

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Graz

only give to give any charity. and then the others will want to sit on their necks

For the rest, these Wishlist are old and constant.

[Thrifty]

Alas, we are not alone there in this market. There, the Yankees with their gas, the Norwegians also have a lot of money from high prices! So, we will not dump, otherwise we ourselves will lose part of the Eurogas market ...

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Thrifty

So, we will not dump, otherwise we ourselves will lose part of the Euro-gas market ...

How can one lose part of the profit by dumping - it is clear, as a part of the market - no.

[max702]

Let’s go around the market and they’ll walk around and see where it’s cheaper.

[Nafanya from the sofa]

Another freeloader was found. Back in 2006, Serbia applied to join the European Union. And there it is not far from NATO.
Let the European Union pay them the difference in gas prices. Painfully smart. "Both yours and ours"

[vitvit123]

In 2006, if (let's dream up) we would be offered to the EEC, we ourselves would have fled there losing our last trousers, what to say for Serbia ... and even now we can say the same thing ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: vitvit123

In 2006, if (let's dream up) we would be offered to the EEC, we ourselves would have fled there losing our last trousers, what to say for Serbia ... and even now we can say the same thing ...

Don't write nonsense. The overwhelming majority of Russians have no desire to flee to join the EU, much less losing their trousers. You do not confuse the Russians with the Ukrainians.

[vitvit123]

And I don’t confuse it .. in my opinion you wrote nonsense ...
And judging by what endings you put, you write in the present tense, and I wrote in the past tense ... but anyway, if you hold a referendum now, then its result is completely unknown ..

[Kot_Kuzya]

You are writing this nonsense. Neither in 2006, nor even more so in 2021, the overwhelming majority of Russians do not seek to enter the EU. What advantages will it give them? Visa-free? For visa-free travel, turn Russia into a colony, where officials from Brussels will give us instructions on what to do and what not to do? Only Ukrainians are capable of such stupidity, not only everyone, very few people can.

[vitvit123]

And can you still write nonsense? I have a different opinion .... and, curiously, did you conduct a survey or are there any other surveys?

[Kot_Kuzya]

Quote: vitvit123

And can you still write nonsense? I have a different opinion .... and, curiously, did you conduct a survey or are there any other surveys?

There is no one among my acquaintances who would aspire to the EU, moreover, over the past 20 years, I have never heard from friends that "it would be nice if Russia joined the EU." Do you live in Ukraine? I actually live in Russia.

[vitvit123]

Polling among friends, I consider it a stupid argument .., in the style of the fact that:
- I asked all my friends who voted for "United Russia" and no one answered me that they voted for it ...! How did she win?
Sorry, but polling acquaintances, in my opinion, is a stupid argument .. once again - sorry ...

[Kot_Kuzya]

You see, you live exclusively in a liberal environment, and an extremely right-wing and stubborn one, if among your acquaintances everyone wants to flee to the EU, even if they lose their trousers, and no one voted for the EP. Among my acquaintances, there are many who voted for EP, and I myself voted for it.

[vitvit123]

Where did I write that among my friends someone seeks to join the EEC? This is the first ...
I don’t know who voted for whom. I myself never do this activity and always look with a smile who is fond of it .. about voting in the previous comment was written as an example,
I thought you would understand that such an argument, in my concept, is stupid ... these are two ...
You have not guessed anything at all! So the conclusion? ....
And please answer my first question, otherwise it turns out that you ...

[Murmur 55]

Already wrote, kindness will save the world BUT WILL GO SIDE RUSSIA !!!! Of course, we will lower prices for Serbia, and in return Belgrade will join the next sanctions, condemn the return of Crimea, the explosions in the Czech Republic, etc., etc. Europe must understand and forgive them (sarcasm).

[vitvit123]

Has Serbia imposed sanctions against Russia?
And in Europe in the sense of the EEC?

[Sergej1972]

EU. The EEC has not existed since 1992.

[vitvit123]

ATP .. this is already degradation for me, probably ..

[Sergej1972]

It's okay. It is pronounced the same anyway.)

[Bagatur]

Serbia has problems - Kosovo! That is why she cannot recognize Krym as Russian!

[vitvit123]

For the same (probably) reason as part of their people who live in a territory called Belarus ..

[Evil troll]

Well, there is no money, let them make some concessions.

[askort154]

It is not clear why they made such noise. Vucic does not ask for gas for free. Serbia's long-term contract ends in December. He hopes for its extension, but not at the current price in Europe, which itself had earlier abandoned long-term agreements. And Hungary and Serbia remained in the old scheme and receive gas at 240 dl. Instead of 1900, which the whole of Europe has gotten over to. And, naturally, Gazprom will meet Hungary and Serbia halfway, if they remain in the scheme proposed by Gazprom earlier.
The price, of course, will not be 240, but also not 1900. Vucic hopes that the price in the new agreement will be acceptable for the Serbian economy. And our hysterics at VO - "we ourselves have nothing to eat," are not taken into account in international treaties.
So waste your nerves. Today is Saturday, relax.

[Alien From]

So you think rationally! You just need to let off steam))) Have a good weekend everyone, let's be kinder

[tralflot1832]

So I go from the shift and think: To drink or not to drink? That is the question!

[Alien From]

The Eternal Dilemma

[tralflot1832]

The question was resolved positively! I join! I am boiling for anything, except hunger!

[isv000]

Quote: tralflot1832

So I go from the shift and think: To drink or not to drink? That is the question!

What kind of question is that ?!

[tralflot1832]

I am already using it, for good news for Murmansk residents! In 2022, the intergovernmental commission Norway, Russia allowed the catch of 70 tons of capelin, and in 000, somewhere else 1986 600 tons were consumed. I envy white envy! I got this stocky fish.

[Ros 56]

Vucic does not ask for gas for free.

And what, to give him a Nobel Prize for this? Capitalism is on the street, the market will solve everything. Haha two times.

And our hysterics at VO - "we ourselves have nothing to eat," are not taken into account in international treaties.

But this is a very wrong position, firstly - these are not hysteria, but the opinions of people have the right. And secondly, this must be taken into account when drawing up agreements, otherwise what the hell do we need to have such a power, whose interests should it observe?
And so all of a successful weekend, I was personally invited to the tavern for my birthday.

[tralflot1832]

With the "Myshlivska" stars?

[Ros 56]

Quite frankly, this whole circus with stars is just a bang to raise prices. Read "Moscow and Muscovites" by Gilyarovsky, as he described the "Slavianski Bazaar" there, you will saliva. And now he has a khan, every nerus, while gaining the upper hand.

[tralflot1832]

A good start, turned into a pure commerce. I agree. The beginning was so that cockroaches were not fed or poisoned.

[Ros 56]

And this does not depend on the presence of stars, but on the presence of conscience and decency, and already in second place is commercial benefit.

[tralflot1832]

I meant the beginning of this topic. The French shot good comedies on this topic.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: askort154

It is not clear why they made such noise. Vucic does not ask for gas for free

Well, yes, only for about half or a third of the price.

Plus, the Serbs, they are enemies, they have not yet joined NATO, they are actually there, they have taken all NATO commitments. Takes part in the exercises.

It's like in 1941 (after June 22) selling something necessary to the allies of one notorious Reich # 3 ...

[Escobar]

There is no money for gas, let them heat with wood, otherwise help everyone, the helper will get tired

[Basarev]

In no case should you make concessions. After all, if the price of the Serbs is reduced, then it will have to be done for the rest. And in general, they cannot pay with money - let them pay in territories.

[Polite Moose]

Serbia "does not have enough money to pay for gas at $ 790-800."
Vucic: Who has them?

... there was an awkward silence, which was broken by a soft, soft voice: "Yes, you never know who ... Yes, I beg your pardon, everyone is" No hao "...

[vitvit123]

Of course, I am not for fraternal help, but by my standards of justice it would be wrong if the Hungarians are heated with our gas almost twice as cheap as the Serbs ...
Probably the history of the Second World War has imposed such a "complex of not accepting."

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Certainly Serbs are brothers. But Vucic is not all of Serbia. It seems that Vucic is starting to become impudent. Only in debt. Or, a political solution to the issue.

[isv000]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Certainly Serbs are brothers. But Vucic is not all of Serbia. It seems that Vucic is starting to become impudent. Only in debt. Or, a political solution to the issue.

To lend the same is not comme il faut - then they will ask to write off ... The issue must be resolved cardinally: since Serbia sells gas with high added value, then when re-signing there should be three contracts - for gas, for the supply of weapons and for the retraining of the Serbian army according to Russian standards. And no splits between the EU and the CU. Additionally, we can still grind all their apples!

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Don't like 800 ?! And how about 1200 in Europe?

Asking for a discount is certainly good, but what in return? Nothing but promises of eternal friendship.

[V means B]

As usual, nothing)

[Alexey Kurilov_4]

I want Mears but I don’t have that kind of money. I get around by tram.

[Wolf]

NOW GREAT !!!
I wrote here that THE MARKET BY ITSELF IS ALL IN THE PLACE WITH THE WORLD EXCHANGES THERE IS NO LIFE AND THANKS THE WORLD !!!
These markets in this guise also led to World War 3 (3 Biological which is in full swing today) Does not talk about PSYCHOPATIC IDEAS TYPE MILLIARD'S GOLD which is a direct consequence of "Rino liberal ideas.
One reason is not the LIFE ability of the market at the EXCHANGE PRICE OF GOODS, where the exchange itself is a TOOL IN THE HANDS OF LARGE PLAYERS AND GLOBAL OWNERS TYPE VENETIANS AND THEIR ALLIES !!!
These energetic crises are art, like the COVID GATES FALUCHI pandemic, and KLAUS SCHWAB, Zelioni and MIROVA ZO at the UN are associates.
Like Patricia Spinoza from the UN Committee on Climate Change !!! Eshe is one God of Science who did not receive the NOBEL PRIZE EXCEPT MENDELEEV AND TESLA BY THE NAME OF MILUTIN MILANKOVICH EXPLAINED 100 YEARS AGO THE CYCLICITY OF CLIMATE CHANGE and that this has no connection with TSO2 and bunches of cows BUT THERE ARE NOT GETTING NOBELS !!!
Vučić said FACTS that one malenko state CANNOT WITHDRAW SUCH CHANGES IN THE PRICE OF ENERGY AND ALL THE GREATS WILL HAVE GREAT SOCIALS AND ECONOMIC PROBLEMS !!!
And he didn’t say the most headlong, probably he doesn’t know the thread and understands THAT ALL THIS IS DONE IN PLAN WITH THE PANDEMIA COVID GATES 19 AND DIFFERENT COVID SOY !!!
The people should understand that a group of PSYCHOPATHERS with a level of knowledge of the MONKEY is playing with the world and the ludmi and that there is no problem Putin gave someone to reduce the price of gas, and PROBLEM EST THE MOST PRICE OF GAS WHICH V.V. PUTIN !!!
THE PRICE OF PRODUCTION OF NATURAL GAS RUSSIAN HAS NOT CHANGED, BUT THE PRICE OF VIRASLE IS ALMOST 10 TIMES !!! it is "rinok" and the ego is law.
Putin will be able to help so that this hysteria with prices would decrease BUT PSYCHOPATHE WILL PRESS THAT THE PRICE WILL GROW AND STRONGLY AND THROUGH COVID 19 AND THE MASSIVE MURDER OF A LADY !!!

[Wolf]

PUTIN DID EVERYTHING TO SAVE THE WORLD OF RABIES THE PRICE OF GAS PROMOTED BY PSYCHOPATHISTS !!!
But here VUCHICH is not clear and the ego doesn’t say he’s totally go ...... or is it just that he treacherously made such a statement by order to make possible an internal strike on Putin from the side of global psychopaths?
The people do not see the whole picture, but only from a micro point and selfishness and will not give out what to stand behind these STATEMENTS: WHAT WE WILL NOT PAY THE PRICE OF GAS FASHIONABLY AND PUTIN WILL GIVE TO WHOM THE GAS !!!
This is FIRST STROKE ON PUTIN, AND AS A CONSEQUENCE SERBIA AND SERBI WILL BE AFFECTED !!!

[Wolf]

AND THE RECIPIENTS OF THE NOBEL PRIZE ALL IN PLACE WITH A NEW FOR THE WORLD MURATOVIM SHOULD ASK WHY THE HIVEKRNULI FROM THE MENDELEEV'S PLATE ETER AND WHO DID IT ???

[Wolf]

After the DEATH of God, Mendeleev's science !!!

[sen]

And to China, at what price are we selling? Serbia should be sold at this price.

[76rtbr]

as patriots pass, throw off Serbia from your money !!!

[Wolf]

Patriots from the Vatican and Patria! We have RODO LUBI from MOTHERLAND !!! And skidovat is necessary from Klaus Schwab, Klinotonoids, Gaucher, London, etc. ...

[Wolf]

Patriots from the Vatican and Patria! We have RODO LUBI from MOTHERLAND !!! And skidovat is necessary from Klaus Schwab, Klinotonoids, Gaucher, London, etc.

[Wolf]

One ode of the Gods to Science MILUTIN MILNKOVICH !!! ALSO DIDN'T RECEIVE A NOBEL PRIZE !!!
He explained to the PEOPLE CYCLICLY CHANGE OF CLIMATE AND AREAS !!!
The ego of the theory WHICH HE PROVED !!!
The recipient is empty and the NOBEL BRIBES WILL OBJECT THE PEOPLE TO MILANKOVICHEV'S THEORY !!!

[Boromir1941]

Yes, in order to get involved with business, you generally need to be without brakes. How to throw and find a hell

[alexvmar]

Without having all the necessary information, it is difficult to say why Serbia was offered such a price. On the other hand, the price is offered by a commercial company. Whether there are political motives for lowering the commercial price is a matter of political relations between countries. Perhaps the Serbs have thrown us somewhere in matters of relations with Russia. And this is taken into account. We take into account that Kosovo is Serbia. Does Serbia take into account that Crimea is Russia? Etc...

[Wolf]

There is no question here that Serbia takes into account that Krim Rusia, Serbs take into account and there is no interpretation for Krim and Kiev and Uzhgorod, but what does Vucic take into account in the question and for whom? Probably Putin knows a lot more for whom Vucic works and where!

[Wolf]

In addition, here is the question that take into account the ADDITIONS of Trotsky and Gaucher! ;)

[Wolf]

The people here do not understand that both liberal capitalism and Trotsky's communism are in place with Marx and Engels. , and worked for ONE OWNER ma how much it looks like a total contradiction.

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Olgovich

But the Russians pay simply RUNNY gas prices, compared to the West, where they are constantly growing for consumers this fall, and so much that they cannot be paid for by a huge number of consumers.

Here an untranslatable pun in the local dialect comes to mind, but I will note within the bounds of decency:
for some reason I have no doubt that Western consumers will suffer, but they will get out, will not die and will not go around the world, but if we set gas prices close to not funny Western (and things are slowly moving towards that), then dear Russians will find themselves in a very ridiculous position, with all the ensuing consequences ...

[Wolf]

Plus for you. This is the idea!

[Wolf]

But Putin CAN QUIETLY DETERMINE THE INTERNAL PRICE FOR THE PEOPLE AS IT WAS ALL THE SAME TO THE ADVANCES OF GLOBALISTS !!!

[Wolf]

And who doesn’t like the price of energy in their states, they are moving to the far east of the Kuriles, Siberia, where prices will be the same as before?

[Wolf]

The most important thing here is that the price for the enterprise SHOULD BE AT THE WORLD LEVEL TAKE INTO ACCOUNT THE GEOGRAPHICAL DIFFERENCE SO THAT WOULD NOT GET WRONG DEVELOPMENT AS IN THE TIMES OF THE USSR !!!

[Wolf]

So the price of milking people and enterprises should be a difference !!!

[singless]

everyone saves. the better they are.

[Radical]

Quote: Fungus

We need to help the Serbs

Help, go ahead! Are you going to collect funds via SMS, like children with disabilities in the Russian Federation?

[xomaNN]

today Belgrade does not have the financial ability to pay the price offered by Russia for "blue fuel"

Example But Father Luke is very contagious. And it wags in the same way. I am going to the EU and NATO - I am not going ... If the opportunity arises, this Vucic will "throw" a friend of the GDP and Russia.

[p0pulivox]

This and our other "gas" disputes on the Internet (and in reality) about prices and discounts for Belarus or Serbia sometimes look funny. It is reported that:

At the end of the second quarter of 2021, the Russian Federation supplied gas to China at a price of $ 148 per 1 cubic meters. m, according to the Chinese customs. In the first quarter, the price was even lower - about $ 121 per 1 cubic meters. m. Earlier it was reported that in the first months of 2021, Gazprom was selling blue fuel to China and at all for $ 118,5.
The contract for the supply of Russian gas to China via the Power of Siberia gas pipeline is tied to the price of fuel oil and gas oil with a nine-month lag, while the price of gas changes on a quarterly basis.

According to Wood Mackenzie, in August of this year pipeline gas from Russia to China cost half as much as from Myanmar, almost 30% cheaper than from Turkmenistan, and more than 10% cheaper than from Kazakhstan and Uzbekistan.

If this is true, what are we arguing about?

[Zaurbek]

You need to know all the points in the contract .... LNG goes to South Korea almost free of charge ..... But they are the main investors in development and equipment ........ The price is not taken from the air

[Zaurbek]

No, no ........ Give assets ..... Provide bases .....

[wandlitz]

The answer is simple, as it is sung in the famous Odessa song "and what will I have from this?"

[Hitriy Zhuk]

And the people will have (us). But we will grow stronger from that!
Seriously, it's either a trifle or nothing. This is in the spirit of our mournful policy.
And we will not be able to tear this mini-country with lowered social responsibility away from NATO (our elite will not risk it, the children / assets themselves are there).

[AB]

And what's the problem? Serbia is building a military base for the Russian Armed Forces at its own expense and pays for military support. The problem with gas and not only will disappear instantly.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Gas is irreplaceable, land is no longer produced.
And if the Serbs (Germans and others, too) run out - someone else will come up with a thread.
Maybe you should choose a colder winter and "oh, but the gas pipeline is clogged, excuse me"?
Well, and then colonization, they will answer for all these "Drang Nakht Osten" and other Napoleons / Teutons. Poles and other evil from Europe that came to us here.

[Ivan Moljkovic]

What are you talking about ?!

[Bagatur]

And how will the Russian Armed Forces maintain the base? Look at the map ...

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Serbia, not being a NATO member, has undertaken obligations equal to those of full NATO members

Well, what are their discounts then?
They're enemies, officially.
NATO, it was created against the USSR, as a consequence, it is now against the Russian Federation.

[Hitriy Zhuk]

Quote: DymOk_v_dYmke

as part of the market - no

Is it possible to sell everything for 0.0001-1% of the cost. Well, then there is no product and, as a result, there is no market.

Our managers can.
This has already happened with factories, yes.

[75 Sergey]

No, I'm against it!