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Rada deputy: Ukraine will inevitably surrender to Russia

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Ukraine will inevitably face surrender to Russia. And first of all, it concerns the issues of economy and energy.


This opinion was expressed by Oleg Voloshin, a deputy of the Verkhovna Rada from the Opposition Platform - For Life (Opposition Platform - For Life) party, on the Ukrainian TV channel First Independent.

The parliamentarian believes that the inevitability of Kiev's surrender to Moscow may be caused by the threat of popular discontent with the authorities, which are unable to solve the acute problem of energy shortages and their high cost. The ruling elite of Ukraine dooms its people to lack of heating during the cold season.

According to Voloshin, in this critical situation, the problem of resolving the situation in the Donbass fades into a secondary place, yielding the first position to the energy crisis in the country. He calls on the authorities to engage in constructive dialogue with Moscow. He believes that even radical nationalists should delve into the country's problems and stop torpedoing the idea of ​​cooperation with Russia.

If we still stick around the Donbass, then what kind of preferential supplies of gas and coal can there be?

- he said.

Earlier on his Facebook page, the deputy wrote that due to the lack of coal at Ukrainian power plants, the authorities would have to “crawl on their knees to Moscow” and ask for fuel.

It should be recalled that already three regions of Ukraine (Transcarpathian, Lviv and Khmelnytsky) have introduced an emergency regime due to a lack of gas. Also, the Ministry of Energy of Ukraine plans to start purchasing electricity from November in Belarus. However, the Ukrainian department itself claims that Minsk may refuse for political reasons.
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  1. APASUS
    APASUS 15 October 2021 10: 18
    +16
    If you set the goal of governing the country - confrontation with Moscow, then this is certainly a disaster.
    Such efforts, and for peaceful purposes, Ukraine would calmly enter the top five developed countries of Europe
    1. Peak
      Peak 15 October 2021 10: 32
      +19
      It should be recalled that already three regions of Ukraine (Transcarpathian, Lviv and Khmelnytsky) have introduced an emergency regime due to a lack of gas.


      I want to note that for some time the activity of individual visitors from the VNA is not noticeable on the site ...

      Obviously, all the same, in spite of all the greyhound in the comments, they started installing the stoves and looking for firewood.

      Cold not aunt Yes .
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 40
        +13
        Quote: PiK
        I want to note that for some time the activity of individual visitors from the VNA is not noticeable on the site ...

        Frozen, hands do not bend to knock on the "keyboard".
        1. Peak
          Peak 15 October 2021 10: 42
          +14
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Frozen, hands do not bend to knock on the "keyboard".

          There is a "keyboard" with backlight, and for Ukraine, models are relevant heated.

          Well-oo-oo-oo, damn it recourse ... Business idea blurted out...
          1. Civil
            Civil 15 October 2021 10: 45
            -3
            1. Here's another 34 million, and how many there are left, to feed the hostile parasites.
            2. Another 5 million from Asia have not arrived, as these will come in large numbers.
            1. VORON538
              VORON538 15 October 2021 10: 58
              +6
              At the same time, the Ukrainian wants not like all countries, but "preferential supplies" for Ukraine. Even here they want freebies. He forgot to add - "with a big discount and in debt" :)))
              1. Tatyana
                Tatyana 15 October 2021 11: 08
                +9
                Meanwhile, in the context of an energy collapse in the country, Ukraine with its half-empty gas storage facilities is selling gas to Europe.

                Ukrainian companies have indeed begun to supply gas to Europe, emptying their own underground gas storage facilities. According to the Hungarian operator FGSZ, at the moment 6 million kWh of gas is pumped through the Beregovo border point, which is about 575 thousand cubic meters of gas.

                Moreover, recently, as part of the fight against corruption, the Americans accidentally discovered Zelensky's own company in offshores to launder the sale of Ukrainian-Russian gas to Europe and evade taxes in Ukraine.
                Zelenskiy's offshore company, for sure, is still selling Russian gas supplied by Russia to Ukraine at fixed contract prices through its offshore firm to Europe at market prices, while taking advantage of Zelenskiy's official position as President of Ukraine with the rights of personal supreme control over gas in Ukraine and personally profiting from the walrus trade with Europe.
                Moreover, in Zelensky's office, no one comments on this scandal in any way, and ordinary people are both freezing and will be freezing.
                1. Peak
                  Peak 15 October 2021 11: 24
                  +7
                  Quote: Tatiana
                  Meanwhile, in the conditions of an energy collapse in the country, Ukraine with its half-empty gas storage facilities sells gas to Europe.


                  And they just by definition cannot act otherwise.
                  Gas something not Ukrainian by belonging.
                  Private companies, Ukrainian and Western, take their OWN gas, which was temporarily stored under contracts in UGS facilities on the territory of Ukraine.

                  But Naftogaz and the authorities of the Square keep silent about HOW MUCH REALLY UKRAINIAN gas is stored in the underground gas storage facility ...
                  1. Tatyana
                    Tatyana 15 October 2021 11: 32
                    -1
                    Quote: PiK
                    The gas is not Ukrainian in terms of belonging.

                    The reverse Russian gas purchased by Ukraine from the EU is already Ukrainian gas, which belongs to Ukraine.
                    This Ukrainian gas is now being sold by Ukrainian firms to Europe at new market prices. We are talking about this gas.
                    1. Peak
                      Peak 15 October 2021 11: 39
                      0
                      Quote: Tatiana
                      The reverse Russian gas purchased by Ukraine from the EU is already Ukrainian gas. Now it is being sold by Ukrainian firms to Europe at new market prices.

                      This, on your part, is a manipulation of terms.

                      You perfectly understand that "Ukrainian gas" means an energy carrier owned by the state responsible for providing resources to industry and the social sector, and not a private trader, who in some cases may be a foreign structure operating in Ukraine, and cannot and will not bear any responsibility for what is happening there.
                      1. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 October 2021 11: 46
                        +2
                        Quote: PiK
                        You perfectly understand that "Ukrainian gas" means an energy carrier owned by the state responsible for providing resources to industry and the social sector, and not a private owner, which in some cases may be a foreign structure operating in Ukraine, and cannot and will not bear any responsibility for what is happening there.

                        So this is the corruption scandal abroad regarding Zelensky himself as President of Ukraine with his secret offshore company for concealing Ukraine from the state and tax laundering, accidentally discovered by the Americans in the fight against corruption.

                        Despite the available gas reserves, budgetary organizations, institutions and enterprises are still without heat. Due to the sharp rise in the price of "blue fuel" most of the suppliers providing the budgetary sphere of Ukraine have simply tore up the previously concluded contracts. They do not want to sell fuel at a loss at the cost previously fixed by the government, which is 13,6 hryvnia (36,97 rubles) per cubic meter.

                        State employees are simply confronted with the fact - to pay according to new tariffs, and this is from 35 to 40 hryvnia (95-122 rubles), which for them is a completely unaffordable price, or "heat with parquet"... Considering present situation one after another, the "square" area is declared a man-made emergency. This is done so that the budgetary sector has the opportunity, by reducing the mandatory tender procedure, to directly conclude contracts with Naftogaz, and receive gas at the previously promised price. And Naftogaz is controlled by Zelensky as the president of Ukraine - and he has his own secret company abroad in an offshore. And Naftogaz itself can sell gas to anyone!

                        См. подолбно - https://finobzor.ru/111294-v-uslovijah-jenergeticheskogo-kollapsa-v-strane-ukraina-prodaet-gaz-v-evropu.html?yrwinfo=1634281859245100-4745406605432745407-vla1-3291-vla-l7-balancer-8080-BAL-2758
                      2. Brturin
                        Brturin 15 October 2021 12: 46
                        0
                        Quote: Tatiana
                        by reducing the mandatory tender procedure, directly conclude contracts with Naftogaz, and receive gas at the previously promised price.

                        It remains only to figure out the price, so how much ...
                        On September 30, 2021, with the participation of Ukrainian President V. Zelensky, a memorandum was signed, according to which Naftogaz undertakes to supply gas to budgetary institutions at UAH 16,39 / m3 (USD 622/1000 m3). https://neftegaz.ru/news/transport-and-storage/700653-zima-kak-chs-v-ryade-regionov-ukrainy-ne-khvataet-gaza-dlya-byudzhetnykh-organizatsiy/
                      3. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 October 2021 14: 11
                        +1
                        Quote: BrTurin
                        It remains only to figure out the price, so how much ...
                        On September 30, 2021, with the participation of Ukrainian President V. Zelensky, a memorandum was signed, according to which Naftogaz undertakes to supply gas to budgetary institutions at UAH 16,39 / m3 (USD 622/1000 m3). https://neftegaz.ru/news/transport-and-storage/700653-zima-kak-chs-v-ryade-regionov-ukrainy-ne-khvataet-gaza-dlya-byudzhetnykh-organizatsiy/

                        Let's say that this is exactly the way it was decided with budgetary organizations in the Ukrainian office for gas.
                        However, budgetary organizations are state hospitals, clinics, schools, kindergartens, legislative, judicial and executive authorities, including the U.
                        And for ordinary citizens - individuals - what to do with heating in private residential buildings and in privatized apartments? And what should a private business do?
                        In Ukraine, a state MONOPOLY "Naftogaz" - and it can still trade with anyone and in any way, including "left"!
                        In this case, and the sale and control of gas sales remain in the same hands - in the hands of the President of Ukraine - i.e. in the hands of Zelensky himself.

                        Thus, Zelensky, in fact, thieves to usurp power in the country through gas!
                      4. Tatyana
                        Tatyana 15 October 2021 14: 36
                        +1
                        Zelensky has only one thing in his aspiration now - if only he can stay in power for as long as possible - and plunder, plunder and plunder Ukraine into his own pockets !!! For the sake of this, the scoundrel and the MILITARY CRIMINAL Zelensky and Satan himself are his own brother!

                        Muraev said correctly that the presidential system of government in Ukraine should be eliminated.

                        MURAYEV: The offshore scandal puts an end to the second term of Zelensky "VAZHLIVA". OUR 10.10.21


                        Topics discussed on the video:
                        - On the resignation of Razumkov;
                        - About offshore Zelensky;
                        - Why does the Office of the President have no reaction to information about Zelensky's offshore companies ?;
                        - TV channels owned by oligarchs do not sanctify the scandal with Zelensky's offshore companies;
                        - On the US reaction to the Zelensky offshore scandal;
                        - About Zelensky's rating;
                        - On energy prices;
                        - About the second term of Zelensky;
                        - About the memorandum on tariffs;
                        - On corruption in the "Big Construction";
                        - About changing the form of government;
                        - Saakashvili announced that he would starve until he and the rest of the detainees were released;
                        - About the meeting of the NSDC
                      5. Vladimir Mashkov
                        Vladimir Mashkov 16 October 2021 13: 55
                        -1
                        Voloshin is right !!!
              2. Furious bambr
                Furious bambr 15 October 2021 13: 33
                +8
                What is such a debt ?! My friends from Durkaina are yelling that the deposits of Siberia and Yamal were being developed by the Durkains, so they shouldn't pay at all. Even the Russian Federation should pay them extra. And this is not news from the fields of mental hospitals, this is the reasoning of real people
                1. VORON538
                  VORON538 15 October 2021 13: 36
                  +3
                  Well what can I say: they are sick. They have a psychological dependence on "freebies", although, recently, this is a characteristic feature of seafarers. hi
                2. Peak
                  Peak 15 October 2021 13: 46
                  +3
                  Quote: Furious Bambr
                  My friends from the Durkains they shout that the deposits of Siberia and Yamal were being developed by the Durkains, so they shouldn't pay at all. Even the Russian Federation should pay them extra.


                  Perhaps it is worth a little to limit communication with such friends (transfer to the category of "acquaintances"), so that nothing like that fool did not happen ?

                  After all, it is known "Whom you lead with - you will gain" , or - "Tell me who your friend is and I will tell you who you are"
                  1. Furious bambr
                    Furious bambr 15 October 2021 17: 40
                    0
                    My friends are cheerful alcoholics.
                    And I think you were beaten at school hi
                3. Tavi
                  Tavi 15 October 2021 16: 30
                  +2
                  Now it is difficult to say where they are sane .. in a psycho hospital or outside.
            2. mikh-korsakov
              mikh-korsakov 15 October 2021 11: 38
              +7
              So I think that the discontent of the masses will happen, but I do not expect serious troubles for the authorities. Why? Because, firstly, the Russian Federation, represented by Putin, for some reason stubbornly considers the Ukrainian people fraternal, it looks like the GDP is stuffing the Ukrainian people into relatives, ethnographically, he may be right, but in fact, due to the fact that in 2014, the Russian Federation left the battlefield for the Ukrainian people, the Ukrainian people believe that Ukraine is tse Europa, and they do not need anything from the damned Muscovites, except for gas. So Putin will give gas, in the right amount. But for this, in Ukraine they will perceive it as a victory of the West over the Russian Federation and nothing more. Secondly, one of the most famous sayings of Mao Zedong is "In the stormy sea you cannot do without a pilot." History teaches that Mao was right. But the field of pro-Russian helmsmen has been reliably cleaned up. Even the conditionally pro-Russian Medvedchuk was neutralized just in case. So everything in Ukraine will be satisfying and warm, but what is now is temporary trouble. And to consider what a particular politician says in the parliament is pointless. The language is there - that is what it says.
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 48
            +2
            Quote: PiK
            There is a backlit "keyboard", and heated models are relevant for Ukraine.

            Well-oo-oo-oo, damn it ... I blurted out a business idea ...

            It's time to make a special keyboard for Ukraine - "heated".
            1. The black
              The black 15 October 2021 10: 49
              +5
              With the current policy of Kiev, Ukraine will collapse as a state.
              1. fruc
                fruc 15 October 2021 11: 32
                +2
                It is, but how much shit they still have time to do.
            2. Peak
              Peak 15 October 2021 10: 51
              +4
              Quote: tihonmarine
              It's time to make a special keyboard for Ukraine - "heated".

              stop Stop, stop Stop ! This is MY idea ...

              Please address questions of business interaction in the LAN wassat bully
              1. tihonmarine
                tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 53
                0
                Quote: PiK
                Stop, stop! This is MY idea ...

                I do not pretend to be the first owner!
            3. Luminman
              Luminman 15 October 2021 11: 17
              +1
              It's time to make a special keyboard for Ukraine - "heated"

              How will they heat, by USB or by occupant gas?
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          3. Xlor
            Xlor 15 October 2021 11: 12
            +1
            models with heating are relevant for Ukraine

            Chinese engineers haven’t come up with such a thing yet ... And the idea is good!
            1. Peak
              Peak 15 October 2021 11: 31
              0
              Quote: Xlor

              Chinese engineers haven’t come up with such a thing yet ... And the idea is good!


              Well ... the Chinese are up to us, like crustaceans to Kiev lol
            2. Denis812
              Denis812 15 October 2021 11: 36
              +4
              Hello ... everything has been on sale for a long time
              1. Peak
                Peak 15 October 2021 14: 02
                +1
                Quote: Denis812
                Hello ... everything has been on sale for a long time

                With all due respect hi - this is an infrared heating pad for the keyboard (hands), separate device And not heated keyboard.
        2. Tavi
          Tavi 15 October 2021 16: 28
          -1
          possibly lack of a network (electricity and / or internet)
      2. hrych
        hrych 15 October 2021 10: 43
        +5
        Quote: PiK
        started installing bourgeois
        they are warmed by love for the USA, unrequited laughing
        It should be recalled that already three regions of Ukraine (Transcarpathian, Lviv and Khmelnytsky) have introduced an emergency regime due to a lack of gas.

        But it's still Indian summer and mid-autumn.
        Quote: PiK
        Cold is not aunt

        Cold is the guy with the big staff
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 49
          0
          Quote: hrych
          But it's still Indian summer and mid-autumn.

          Whether it will still be, oh-yo-yo!
          1. Polite Moose
            Polite Moose 15 October 2021 11: 55
            0
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Whether it will still be, oh-yo-yo!

            They will freeze their ears to spite their grandmother, and then they will whine and yell about the cold sea.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 15 October 2021 13: 17
              0
              Quote: Polite Elk
              They will freeze their ears to spite their grandmother, and then they will whine and yell about the cold sea.

              All Russia is to blame, then starving, then cold.
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    2. NDR-791
      NDR-791 15 October 2021 10: 35
      +5
      Quote: APASUS
      Ukraine would calmly enter the top five developed countries of Europe

      Do you see how the forelocks are minus? They do not want to be in the top five developed, they do not drive them by force! wassat
      1. Peak
        Peak 15 October 2021 12: 00
        +2
        Quote: NDR-791
        Do you see how the forelocks are minus?

        Until 10.35 Moscow time, that was just the beginning ...
        Now, the sun has risen higher over Vkraina, the Banderlog warmed up, and in flocks they rushed to minus with ever-increasing activity ...
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 15 October 2021 13: 20
          +1
          Quote: PiK
          Now, the sun has risen higher over Vkraina, the Banderlog has warmed up

          They jumped, jumped and playful fingers knocked on the keyboard.
    3. Finches
      Finches 15 October 2021 10: 44
      +12
      Russophobia, specifically for Ukraine, is a costly game. It is somewhat similar to Russian roulette, only it is played without the participation of Russia. We took the revolver, loaded it and you can play. The revolver is American, the cartridges are European, and the head ...
      Its own head. Bad. Which have....
    4. Peak
      Peak 15 October 2021 10: 48
      +2
      Quote: APASUS
      Such efforts, and for peaceful purposes, Ukraine would calmly enter the top five developed countries of Europe


      At one time, in 1991, the ex-Ukrainian SSR started from such positions.

      But not the horse feed ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 15 October 2021 13: 21
        0
        Quote: PiK
        But not the horse feed ...

        If the grooms also stole the hay.
    5. knn54
      knn54 15 October 2021 11: 05
      +4
      Pavo. And who would give her such an opportunity.
      When the Ukrainian SSR was ruled by Shelest, the republic was in 10th place in terms of welfare (1970/1971) in the world!
      He was an interesting person, he considered nationalism to be a normal phenomenon, akin to patriotism. At the same time, he fought very hard against Benderism, rightly considering them to be Nazis.
      To paraphrase a famous quote from the Quran - love your nation / country, but don't humiliate others.
      And Shelest was taken up to Moscow and sent to retire a year later.
      And another interesting point: in the first year, one of my fellow students from Galicia brought an article by a Canadian economist of Ukrainian origin, where, using facts and figures, he proved that the Kharkov region (black earth, industry, gas, oil) could exist as a successful independent state. sensible and just a good guy was expelled from the institute.
      He refused to join the Komsomol for religious reasons (he was a Baptist).
      Finally wishing to burn out in fiery hell.
      Well, today the country is at the level ... worse than Africa.
      We agreed to resume deliveries of round timber to Europe. There is nowhere else to go.
      And the last.
      It is a pity that the Donetsk-Kryvyi Rih Republic did not take place.
      Unfortunately, the Bolsheviks (mostly Trotskyists) believed that the republics should be formed only on a national basis, and in no case on an economic basis.
      Artyom was in charge, and Voroshilov was the defense minister.
      And the idea arose even before the revolution among a group of industrialists from the south of RI.
      Among whom were the Alchevsky brothers
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    7. Incvizitor
      Incvizitor 15 October 2021 11: 55
      +2
      Ukraine would calmly enter the top five developed countries of Europe

      This is not necessary for the junta, the junta needs a war to make it easier to steal and write off everything for the war, especially without the Russian Federation, no country from this territory will work.
    8. venik
      venik 15 October 2021 19: 41
      -1
      Quote: APASUS
      If you set the goal of governing the country - confrontation with Moscow, then this is certainly a disaster.

      =======
      And what, the Ukrainian authorities "run the country"? belay They were really surprised! bully In my opinion, this country has long been run "because of a puddle"! And the "Fashington Regional Committee" needs only one thing from the "Nezalezhnaya": "confrontation with Moscow"... And there - at least" the grass does not grow "! drinks
  2. Aleksandr97
    Aleksandr97 15 October 2021 10: 19
    +6
    Until they really feel the delights of the European choice and life according to European price tags for electricity and gas, no exhortations will be understood ...
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  3. Pavel episkop
    Pavel episkop 15 October 2021 10: 22
    +6
    You can help, but only with a change in the current government, recognition of the LDNR, the establishment of federalization and the status of Crimea as part of the Russian Federation.
  4. Zhan
    Zhan 15 October 2021 10: 23
    +2
    smile To surrender, at least you need to declare war. And immediately the Act of surrender was signed. And I ask the Ukrainian government not to forget about possible reparations in favor of the Russian Federation .. lol
  5. prior
    prior 15 October 2021 10: 28
    +8
    Ukraine did not recognize the Russian vaccine, did not recognize the choice of the people of Crimea in the referendum, why should we react to their problems?
    Freeze Bandera ?! Well, what's wrong with that!
    And the others are not there today! Others have not been brought up there for 30 years.
    Let them, before kneeling down and begging for Russian gas, cancel all their adopted laws against Russia, against the Russian language and against Russian citizens. They recognize Crimea, they admit that it was they who shot down a Malaysian Boeing.
    And not otherwise.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 37
      +2
      Quote: prior
      Ukraine did not recognize the Russian vaccine, did not recognize the choice of the people of Crimea in the referendum, why should we react to their problems?

      But on the other hand, she admitted that Russian gas is "dirty". Wait for the clean one.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 15 October 2021 10: 49
      +4
      Quote: prior
      And the others are not there today!

      All Vlad! I'm offended!
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      2. prior
        prior 16 October 2021 07: 53
        0
        And how offended I was after they didn’t let me visit my own mother the other day ... I simply didn’t have any faith that there were people left in Ukraine. One Russophobic beast. What am I telling you, you see all this better than me. Village schools are being closed. Gas is cut off to the old people who have not paid the receipt on time. And this is because there is nothing to get to the regional center and pay for this very receipt. They turned the country into a country of savages, Pitikanthropus. Ukraine has a strange path to Europe, more likely in the Stone Age, but without gas and coal.
        Yes. You cannot slander a whole nation, all indiscriminately. But it got already to the liver.
        You have to do something, how long can you tolerate it?
        Such is the emotional cry from the heart ... request
  6. ugol2
    ugol2 15 October 2021 10: 30
    +10
    Well, here are common thoughts crawled into the head of the Rada deputies with the approach of cold weather.
    But not everyone yet. Let's wait, we have nowhere to rush.
  7. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 15 October 2021 10: 36
    +1
    If we still stick around the Donbass, then what kind of preferential supplies of gas and coal can there be?

    What do you expect from Russia? To be supplied with cheap gas and coal, and even stroked on the head?
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 15 October 2021 10: 37
    +1
    Ukraine will inevitably surrender to Russia
    It is waiting, but for now the confidence that "abroad will help us" prevails over common sense until the last Ukrainian will "resist" Moscow secretly buying electricity and coal from it ...
  9. Oleg Valevsky
    Oleg Valevsky 15 October 2021 10: 47
    -19
    In 5 years we will have the opportunity to make sure that this energy crisis (primarily in the EU) will accelerate the transition to alternative energy at times.
    For the sake of the momentary hype, Gazprom (the Kremlin) is launching an accelerated process of sawing off the branch on which the Russian economy is supported - refusal from hydrocarbons.
    By the way, the same solar energy is more than enough for humanity. Every hour the sun gives the amount of energy that humanity consumes in a year.
    And if you cover all the roofs of houses on Earth with solar panels, then the amount of electricity received will more than 5 times overlap the one that humanity needs today ...
    1. bar
      bar 15 October 2021 10: 55
      +8
      Sorry to be blunt, but you're delusional.
      1. VORON538
        VORON538 15 October 2021 13: 42
        +3
        So this is another Svidomo in the fields of VO. wink They are like that from there everything is "with a twist" laughing
    2. dzvero
      dzvero 15 October 2021 11: 07
      +3
      Alternative energy is good for pampering, but not for real production, especially large or energy-intensive (like the production of the same panels). What, in fact, we are already seeing smile
      Plus, new problems will arise - for example. lack of lithium for batteries.
    3. Denis812
      Denis812 15 October 2021 11: 43
      +1
      1. The Kremlin is launching a green energy start-up process because our main customers want to switch to it.
      And if we want to continue to sell them something, then we must meet their requirements.
      This is called capitalism.

      2. Nobody can refuse hydrocarbons. If only because hydrocarbons, in addition to their participation in energy production, are still involved in a million processes and they simply CANNOT be replaced, for example, in metallurgy or the chemical industry. No way. Because these are the laws of physics and chemistry. And because we have a limited periodic table of the elements.

      3. Solar energy is super. Just let you come to me in relatively sunny Poland and put photovoltaics (cells) on the roof and show how I can get as much energy from the sun as from gas. And even for the same price. Better yet, repeat the same trick in my house in the Leningrad region. Where the clouds are always stupid.
    4. DymOk_v_dYmke
      DymOk_v_dYmke 15 October 2021 12: 01
      +2
      Quote: Oleg Valevsky
      And if you cover all the roofs of houses on Earth with solar panels, then the amount of electricity received will more than 5 times overlap the one that humanity needs today ..

      Consider how many carcinogens will be released from the bound state during the production of this "luxury" - you will not want to live. hi
    5. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 15 October 2021 18: 58
      0
      We have solar panels in units in Australia, an expensive toy. And there are not many windmills, although there is plenty of wind. Why dont know.
  10. bar
    bar 15 October 2021 10: 54
    0
    Ukraine will inevitably surrender to Russia

    The main thing is not to surrender. Otherwise we will not feed such a crowd
    1. isv000
      isv000 15 October 2021 22: 30
      0
      Quote: bar
      The main thing is not to surrender. Otherwise we will not feed such a crowd

      Someone also needs to build new cities in Siberia. hi
  11. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 15 October 2021 10: 59
    +7
    We are satisfied with the collapse ..... and the entry into the Russian Federation in certain regions. Centralized surrender is not needed.
  12. Xlor
    Xlor 15 October 2021 11: 10
    +1
    The inevitability of Kiev's surrender to Moscow

    Such a capitulation means financing the Ukrainian economy, investing in health care, education and the social sector ... This is also the cost of litigation over the entire Bandera-Kaklyak leadership ... Does the Russian budget need this?
    1. Runoway
      Runoway 15 October 2021 11: 41
      -5
      Does the Russian budget need it?
      of course you are not right, nooooooo, but should the Russian budget write off debts to blacks and build nuclear power plants for the Turks ???? Politics, sorry
  13. Yves762
    Yves762 15 October 2021 11: 53
    +1
    Hmm .... what
    "Katz offers sdatstsa".?. feel
  14. hagen
    hagen 15 October 2021 11: 57
    +1
    The parliamentarian believes that the inevitability of Kiev's surrender to Moscow may be caused by the threat of popular discontent with the authorities, which are unable to solve the acute problem of energy shortages and their high cost.

    Perhaps Kiev is afraid of popular discontent with the government. Obviously, this is precisely why he, the ruling class in Ukraine, merged with the nationalist stratum that professes the ideological heritage of the OUN. When the people begin to pour out their discontent on the authorities, the Ukrainian establishment will "direct" nationalists to suppress it, and itself will close its eyes to the lawlessness they are committing. The method has already been tested in the physical elimination of some objectionable types of Buzina and other persons from the lists of the "peacemaker". In this regard, I would recall the thought of one of the ideological leaders of the OUN, Roman Shukhevych, whose son is opening the session of the Rada today, - “The Ukrainian insurgent army should act in such a way that everyone who recognizes the“ Soviet power ”(here you can put any definition of an unwanted stratum of the population) were destroyed. I repeat, not to intimidate, but to exterminate. Don't be afraid that people will curse us for our cruelty. Let only half of the 40 million Ukrainian population remain - there is nothing wrong with that! ”.....
    It is useful to know who Ze is uniting with today against the positive-minded citizens of his own country. The PLO also needs to think about the units of physical protection of their comrades-in-arms and associates, because the Bandera, of whom not yet 100% of the population, will not surrender power at the verbal demand of the law, not backed up by armed force. And this power must be ready to shed blood. Not otherwise.
  15. singless
    singless 15 October 2021 12: 12
    -2
    everyone knows everything but they hide it.
  16. Fedorovich
    Fedorovich 15 October 2021 12: 17
    +1
    It remains only to explain why we need Ukraine.
  17. iouris
    iouris 15 October 2021 12: 27
    +2
    Do not. This is an internal conflict, so surrender to the LDNR. Please
  18. rocket757
    rocket757 15 October 2021 12: 33
    -1
    Rada deputy: Ukraine will inevitably surrender to Russia
    Oh, not there, he, he says ... they can be beaten, or even imprisoned.
    1. iouris
      iouris 16 October 2021 02: 33
      0
      Well, they'll beat you. It's not about the president's money. But you can, after all, take a high post in the future. The big change is coming soon.
      May they not touch him. They are already beginning to feel that the soil is leaving under their feet.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 16 October 2021 08: 11
        -1
        For the sake of a high position, they can go to great lengths ...
  19. pomor23
    pomor23 15 October 2021 18: 19
    +1
    Gold words! )) Yes, exactly as it happened more than once in our common history. You appoint, appoint Getmanov, and then - bam .... and Pereyaslavl Rada! )))
  20. Dkuznecov
    Dkuznecov 15 October 2021 21: 07
    +1
    Everything will return to normal, and there is no other center of power
    from the limitrophes and Ukraine, how to nail, like tea leaves in a glass, to us.
    There is no other center of power. There was Yugoslavia in the Balkans,
    it was rubbed like cheese on a dozen toothless lands.
    And we - to reunite, we will have to get sick. It won't take years
    but decades.
  21. isv000
    isv000 15 October 2021 22: 23
    +1
    Rada deputy: Ukraine will inevitably surrender to Russia

    The main thing here is not to fall for the trick of the steal and not to take it on the balance sheet with all the giblets. They are just waiting for this ... Only voluntarily, with a petition! negative
  22. Evil 55
    Evil 55 16 October 2021 02: 17
    0
    Another example, when rabid nationalism ruins the state.
  23. Oleg Valevsky
    Oleg Valevsky 16 October 2021 22: 52
    -3
    Quote: dzvero
    Alternative energy is good for pampering


    Let's be honest? ... 15 years ago we heard the same thing about shale gas (and the same thing about oil). And suddenly it turned out that oil shale mining is no less than traditional. And not much more expensive ..!

    Cybernetics was already once a "bourgeois pseudoscience .."
    Didn't the rake teach you anything? ..