Sources reported the decision of the Ministry of Defense to rename two corvettes under construction for the Russian Navy

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Sources reported the decision of the Ministry of Defense to rename two corvettes under construction for the Russian Navy

The Ministry of Defense renamed two under construction for the Russian fleet corvette. The decision was made in the main command of the Russian Navy.

According to information from several sources in the shipbuilding industry, referred to by TASS, the project 20380 corvette "Zealous", built for the Black Sea Fleet and the lead corvette of the project 20386 "Mercury", was renamed. According to the decision of the military, "Zealous" became "Mercury", and "Mercury" - "Daring", the name under which it was founded was returned to it.



Note that the information is not official, the military department does not report anything about the purpose of renaming the ships, the Ministry of Defense does not comment on publications on this topic. At least so far there have been no official announcements.

Corvette "Zealous" project 20380, it is now "Mercury", according to the sources, was built at the "Severnaya Verf" for the Black Sea Fleet. Currently, the ship is undergoing mooring trials and is expected to join the fleet by the end of the year. It is the fifth project 20380 corvette built at Severnaya Verf. Displacement standard 1800 tons, full 2220 tons. The maximum length is 104,5 meters, the width is 13 meters, the maximum draft is 7,95 meters. The maximum speed is 27 knots. Cruising range up to 4000 miles.

Corvette "Mercury", renamed "Daring", is the lead corvette of Project 20386, a series of ships of which is intended to replace the frigates of Project 11356. Laid down on October 28, 2016 at Severnaya Verf the superstructure was delivered to the plant. Nothing is known about the date of delivery of the ship.
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    1. +5
      15 October 2021 08: 16
      The main thing is that they are building.
      But interestingly, the sailors have some signs regarding the renaming of ships.
      1. +10
        15 October 2021 08: 25
        Note that the information is not official, the military department does not report anything about the purpose of renaming the ships, the Ministry of Defense does not comment on publications on this topic. At least so far there have been no official announcements.

        Colleagues, sailors, please help me understand what it was? belay recourse
        1. +18
          15 October 2021 08: 52
          Quote: Terenin
          Colleagues, sailors, please help me understand what it was?

          This is called people work, the range of responsibilities is so wide that there is not enough time for anything, they have barely carved out for a useful business, now, for sure, you don't have to worry about the fleet and you are not ashamed to receive a salary.
          Shl. Although among ordinary people this is culturally called relocation of reproductive organs ...
          1. +6
            15 October 2021 16: 00
            Quote: JD1979
            This is called people work, the range of responsibilities is so wide that there is not enough time for anything, so they barely carved out for a useful business

            Well, when Sergei Kozhugetovich has 30-year-old girls major-generals as advisers, it is somehow even silly to be surprised at such news request
            1. +3
              15 October 2021 18: 43
              Nothing else in the activities of Sergei Kozhugetovich
              are you not interested? Who hurts what? Yes? negative
              1. 0
                16 October 2021 14: 45
                Quote: Alex777
                Nothing else in the activities of Sergei Kozhugetovich
                are you not interested? Who hurts what? Yes?

                Well, if you really think it's normal when girls of model appearance are awarded general ranks for some incomprehensible merits, then you would rather not blame others about illness, but you yourself would be examined, or something. There are serious concerns for your precious ...
        2. +14
          15 October 2021 09: 23
          If this is not a fake, 20386 will continue to play for a long time - this is an experimental corvette-frigate. And, the name Mercury is symbolic for the Black Sea Fleet. 20380 was built for the Black Sea Fleet and will be commissioned at the end of 21 or 22. For the Black Sea Fleet and the entire fleet, it is an honor to have a ship in Sevastopol named Mercury! There was such a sailing hero ship, Mercury!))
          1. +8
            15 October 2021 10: 24
            Quote: Sergey39
            There was such a sailing hero ship, Mercury!

            ========
            Famous story!
            I. Ayvazovsky "Brig" Mercury "attacked by two Turkish ships":

            By the way, in Soviet times, the name of this painting was sometimes slightly modified and called: "The battle of the brig" Mercury "with two Turkish ships"!
            By the way, in the Imperial Russia
            com fleet for ships named after famous predecessors, the word "Memory" was usually added to the name.
            So in the imperial fleet were:
            - Pvrus-screw corvette "Memory of Mercury" (1865)


            - Auxiliary cruiser "Memory of Mercury" (ex. "Yaroslavl", 1883):


            - Armored cruiser "Memory of Mercury" (ex. "Cahul", 1906)


            - Small hydrographic vessel "Memory of Mercury" (1966):


            All in all, starting from the times of Peter the Great, 10 ships in the Russian Navy had the name "Mercury"!
      2. +2
        15 October 2021 08: 26
        Quote: Canecat
        The main thing is that they are building.
        But interestingly, the sailors have some signs regarding the renaming of ships.

        I suppose until the "godmother" appeared (after breaking the bottle), the name does not matter.
      3. +5
        15 October 2021 08: 41
        Mercury is "Mercury" and not "In Memory of Mercury", but for Istanbul, memory ...

        Erdogan is our friend ... and / but a good tavarisch ...

        teaches history
      4. +6
        15 October 2021 08: 47
        Read about brig Mercury at least Vicki.
      5. +17
        15 October 2021 08: 52
        do the sailors have any signs regarding the renaming of ships
        I heard that the renaming of the ship has long been considered a bad omen. You can remember many ships with changed names that were in accidents and even died. Remember at least Nakhimov or Bulgaria. At the same time, many ships quite happily completed their days under new names. However, , the unchanged name does not in any way guarantee against trouble. There are also a lot of examples. As far as I remember the book "History of Shipping in Russia", the renaming of ships under the tsarist regime was a completely normal practice when buying. And even more, when registering a registered vessel, a new owner it is not uncommon to be forced to change the name. For example: the ship has the name "Rubin", while in the State Ship Register there are several ships with this name. The new owner is invited to either add a number in the name (for example "Rubin-5"), or find a new name for the ship. Ships change not only the name, but often the gender! For example, Kruzenshtern was launched as "Padua". three famous barges, inherited by the USSR as reparations from Germany, were all renamed. I would not rename it. Apparently, the key question here is whether you believe in omens in general and in this one in particular. If you believe, chances of trouble from change names increase a lot. And from the signs I can remember - on the ship with my right foot, you cannot whistle on the deck, drop something on it, you cannot kill and drive away seagulls or any seabird in general (well, they say, the souls of dead sailors move into them), on Monday they tried not to go to sea, the number 13 was also avoided in every possible way. There are also many interesting stories connected with the number 13, I read about one quite recently - in 1907, the seven-mast schooner "Thomas Lawson" died on the rocks. It was built in America in 1902 and was considered the largest in the world, with a gross tonnage of 5218 register tons. The schooner was named after the person who wrote the book "Friday 13th". The schooner died on Friday 13 December. So don't believe in omens after that! But the cat must be black - they searched for a long time and found it!






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        1. +3
          15 October 2021 09: 08
          Here and without bad omens it is worth thinking about - I'm talking about the last paragraph, which indicates HOW MANY years the corvette has been under construction.
          And this is in the presence of funding and programs for the modernization of the fleet.
        2. +5
          15 October 2021 09: 52
          Quote: Crowe
          Remember at least Nakhimov

          The name Nakhimov is not at all happy for our fleet!
        3. +7
          15 October 2021 09: 57
          Sometimes comments are more interesting than an article)))
        4. +8
          15 October 2021 09: 59
          When the number 13 is mentioned, I recall the French yacht "Vandreli Treuse" (Friday, 13th)., Three-masted, super modern, was launched in 1994. In the very first race across the Atlantic, all the most reliable electrical equipment went out of order, including the autopilot and household radio. And it was managed by a yachtsman, who was now deprived even of the opportunity to sleep. ... who is interested, reads it.
          I think there is nothing sinister about renaming ships. We perceived the renaming of the aircraft carrier "NG Kuznetsov" as a curiosity. At the construction stage, this occurs. And the passenger ships are renamed by each new owner. By the way, Zoshchenko has a story about passengers.))
      6. +6
        15 October 2021 09: 00
        Quote: Canecat
        The main thing is that they are building.
        But interestingly, the sailors have some signs regarding the renaming of ships.

        The long-suffering example of the TAVKR "Adm. Kuznetsov" is, in my opinion, the best and most illustrative example ...
        1. +4
          15 October 2021 16: 59
          Quote: moreman78
          The long-suffering example of the TAVKR "Adm. Kuznetsov" is, in my opinion, the best and most illustrative example ...

          Oh yes ... before it even entered service, the ship changed its name four times. smile
          "Soviet Union" - "Riga" - "Leonid Brezhnev" - "Tbilisi" - "Admiral of the Fleet of the Soviet Union Kuznetsov".

          And about long-suffering - there is another question. "Kuznetsov" is the only one of Project 1143 that remained in the Navy. And one of the few large ships of the USSR Navy that have survived to this day.
    2. +4
      15 October 2021 08: 18
      Have you decided to take an example from the Chinese? I twist, twist, I want to confuse.
      1. +4
        15 October 2021 08: 44
        Quote: Rusticolus
        Have you decided to take an example from the Chinese? I twist, twist, I want to confuse.

        request Why, look at the story with "Ochakov" and "Cahul". The first became "Cahul", the second "Memory of Mercury". What a coincidence ...
      2. +9
        15 October 2021 09: 23
        The Chinese do not rename anything in the surface fleet, but on a quarterly basis they assign names to dozens of ships at different stages of construction, like this:
        PLAN Guang'an (622)
        PLAN Tai'an (616)
        PLAN Tongling (629)
        Plan Suizhou (624)
        PLAN Songyuan (600)
        PLAN Pingdingshan (602)
        Plan Laiwu (607)
        Plan Tianmen (631)
        Plan Shizuishan (609)
        Plan Aba (630)
        Plan Nanyang (619)
        Plan Jining (636)
        Plan Shiyan (637)
        Plan Shangqiu (618)
        Plan Dalian (105)
        PLAN Yanān (106)




        And their submarine forces are classified as secret. And this applies to numbers, names, quantities, characteristics. Therefore, they do whatever they want there.
        1. -1
          15 October 2021 11: 05
          Quote: donavi49
          like this:

          Oh, the "booklet" arrived in time. Freelance (?) Advertising agency PLA in the works like a bee. fellow laughing
    3. +9
      15 October 2021 08: 18
      No matter how it turned out, just like with the renaming of the police to the police! ... We need not change beds and signs ... but finance the military-industrial complex, science, medicine ... invest in education ... In general, do all that , which was already done under the USSR, avoiding the "rake" in the form of the appearance of castes of untouchable celestials
      1. +7
        15 October 2021 08: 33
        Quote: Invoce
        No matter how it turned out, as with the renaming of the police to the police! ...

        Incidentally, winked the new police are called upon to keep order. Please do not bother her about the riotsstop
      2. +2
        15 October 2021 08: 47
        Quote: Invoce
        It is not necessary to swap beds and signs ... but to finance

        Not not not, before you start financing, you also need to change the "ladies", and how much you don’t finance, but at the exit there is a duet of a golden toilet bowl in the country and a battle trough with the speed of a barge in the port.
      3. +2
        15 October 2021 11: 26
        Quote: Invoce
        invest in education ...

        Well, if you read everything that is written on the Internet about Rakova, it seems that the state has understood all the "charm" of digital education. I would like to hope for changes ..
    4. +1
      15 October 2021 08: 22
      Note that the information is not official, the military department does not report anything about the purpose of renaming the ships, the Ministry of Defense does not comment on publications on this topic.
      "we change the landscape, at what in the manual, from what, the enemy is lost, and comes to full non-combat capability ..." (C),
      1. +3
        15 October 2021 08: 37
        Quote: Dead Day
        Note that the information is not official, the military department does not report anything about the purpose of renaming the ships, the Ministry of Defense does not comment on publications on this topic.
        "we change the landscape, at what in the manual, from what, the enemy is lost, and comes to full non-combat capability ..." (C),
        Maybe everything is simpler, just someone, with someone, in the quiet, comfortable high offices of the Navy, to put it mildly, peresobachilsya. winked
    5. +24
      15 October 2021 08: 24
      I wonder if such organizational issues are worth the money?
      1. +3
        15 October 2021 09: 13
        As a minimum, this is the salary of those who invented it.
      2. +8
        15 October 2021 09: 38
        Yes.

        1) It is necessary to rewrite all documentation, passports and drawings for new stamps.
        2) This nameplate will probably have to be done again.

        3) We'll have to re-label all the labeled means, order a bunch of little things.

        4) Again, the design of the cabins, corridors, mess rooms, the officer's room will have to be reissued under a new name, another glorious story written, etc.
    6. BAI
      +3
      15 October 2021 08: 25
      "Zealous" became "Mercury" and "Mercury" became "Daring"

      Actually, there should be "Memory of Mercury". If according to tradition.
    7. +1
      15 October 2021 08: 27
      When the cat has nothing to do, he licks the balls, if he has nothing to do, then such should be driven.
    8. +2
      15 October 2021 08: 35
      The ships are now being built rather small. Therefore, short names are more suitable for them. Think. And then the fashion went to call something a little larger than the boat "Admiral of the Fleet of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and one and a half hero of the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics Agidor Murelyevich Ogorodnichenko" ... wassat
      1. +8
        15 October 2021 08: 55
        In the USSR Navy, not all ships of the 3rd rank had names, they were just numbered. Now every little thing has a proper name.
        1. +9
          15 October 2021 09: 02
          Quite right! I myself served on such a ship and we were proud of the number of our ship no less than those who had a name! The point is in relation to the ship, but it is not important to have a name or not. You can and should respect and love your ship, regardless of the number his or his name.
        2. +4
          15 October 2021 09: 31
          20380 is a ship of the second rank!
          1. +6
            15 October 2021 11: 58
            It is now. Previously, a ship with such a displacement would belong to the 3rd rank.
            It is difficult to give a unified and understandable classification of modern Russian ships. There are no obvious references to dimensions, and modern weapons systems allow ships to be armed in accordance with the assigned tasks - yesterday's frigates can become destroyers, and those, in turn, can become cruisers. At rank II, everything becomes really complicated. For example, Project 20380 multipurpose ships are rank II, but at the same time they are corvettes. Their tasks include protecting the near sea zone, but at the same time they have a displacement of about 2000 tons.
            1. +2
              15 October 2021 17: 07
              Quote: Waterways 672
              It is now. Previously, a ship with such a displacement would belong to the 3rd rank.

              Is not a fact. The same TFR pr. 1159 belonged to the second rank, and their displacement was even less than that of pr. 20380.
              The third rank is somewhere up to 1600-1700 tons of full displacement. So pr. 20380 does not go there.
    9. +1
      15 October 2021 08: 37
      The Zealous might have been reserved for another ship.
    10. +6
      15 October 2021 08: 52
      Recently there was an article that the Chinese have confused American spies to death by redrawing the numbers on their corvettes and frigates almost every month .. - thereby bringing chaos into accounting and control .. maybe we also have some kind of financial contraption? According to the documents, it seems like two, in fact - none, but according to the names - already three ..)). Just yesterday I was thinking - if there is a Varyag, then why is there still no Korean, Weakened, Retvizan?
      1. +3
        15 October 2021 09: 20
        Quote: Dikson
        Just yesterday I was thinking - if there is a Varyag, then why is there still no Korean, Weakened, Retvizan?
        I'm also wondering why the feat of the armored cruiser "Rurik", whose name in our fleet has generally sunk into oblivion, has been forgotten. This is unfair and wrong. If we talk about renaming, it would be better to call the nuclear cruiser on modernization not "Admiral Nakhimov", this name is notorious in our fleet, namely "Rurik", consolidating the memory of the ship, whose feat is commensurate with the glory of the "Varyag". There is still time for this, and, I think, many would only be happy about such a renaming.
      2. +3
        15 October 2021 09: 32
        In the USSR, numbers on ships were often changed.
      3. +10
        15 October 2021 09: 36
        Just yesterday I was thinking - if there is a Varyag, then why is there still no Korean, Weakened, Retvizan?
        The crews of the MPK "Koreets" and the large landing craft "Oslyabya" of the Pacific Fleet are looking at you with bewilderment.
        1. +5
          15 October 2021 09: 39
          Sorry .. overlooked. I apologize to everyone who served and is serving on these ships ..
        2. 0
          16 October 2021 22: 12
          Quote: VohaAhov
          Just yesterday I was thinking - if there is a Varyag, then why is there still no Korean, Weakened, Retvizan?
          The crews of the MPK "Koreets" and the large landing craft "Oslyabya" of the Pacific Fleet are looking at you with bewilderment.

          And "Poltava", "Azov" from the past, and "Kiev" from the near? Why be ashamed of our naval history ??? Why not assign OUR legendary names to OUR ships?
    11. +5
      15 October 2021 08: 56
      The name "Admiral Kuznetsov" changed the most:
      1 - under the project "Soviet Union",
      2 - at the "Riga" tab,
      3 - launching "Leonid Brezhnev",
      4 - tests "Tbilisi"
      And since 1990 - "Admiral Kuznetsov".
      There is such an aphorism:
      "As you name the ship, so it will float."
    12. +3
      15 October 2021 09: 27
      Well .... Putin was poured into his ears for a new ship, and now we need to hide the ends, maybe the GDP will not remember for our "Zumwald". If only not a series, If only not a series ...
      1. +25
        15 October 2021 10: 27
        Quote: lopuhan2006
        maybe GDP will not remember for our "Zumwald"

        Vladimir Vladimirovich has already forgiven everyone
    13. +3
      15 October 2021 09: 42
      A little "joke". Top officials need to report to Putin about "Mercury". He was personally at the docking of the two parts of the hull. And now bam and the ship, maybe even this year, is coming into service. Respect and respect to the heads of the USC. By the end of the year, promotions and bonuses.
      1. +2
        15 October 2021 11: 03
        .. From the same series - to take the fuselage of 30 years ago, lying in the open air, and loudly declare the resumption of production of bombers? The main thing is a vigorous report upstairs .. By the way, was it not Rogozinskaya's son who taxied the production of that very plane, which, having caught fire in flight, ditched the crew of high-class Test Pilots? Also, probably, someone was strongly impatient to report cheerfully ..
        1. -3
          15 October 2021 11: 53
          Quote: Dikson
          Was it not Rogozinskaya's son who taxied the production of the very aircraft that, having caught fire in flight, ditched the crew of high-class Test Pilots?


          What is high-class about them, if in the end they ditched the newest aircraft?
          1. +24
            15 October 2021 12: 26
            What is high-class about them, if in the end they ditched the newest aircraft?

            Are you joking about the dead testers?
          2. +2
            15 October 2021 13: 26
            here you are .. a horse .. read the information, who and what is there and how .. and do not be malicious ...
    14. +2
      15 October 2021 09: 47
      Quote: VohaAhov
      A little "joke". Top officials need to report to Putin about "Mercury". He was personally at the docking of the two parts of the hull. And now bam and the ship, maybe even this year, is coming into service. Respect and respect to the heads of the USC. By the end of the year, promotions and bonuses.


      This is not a joke, unfortunately. This is what they have in mind. That's just for this it is necessary to plant.
      1. +2
        15 October 2021 16: 10
        Of course, they will report to Putin that the Mercury corvette has been completed and handed over to the Navy, as planned in 2022, but the fact that this is another ship .... well, who will ask?
    15. +3
      15 October 2021 10: 19
      I don’t understand these movements, really the cat doesn’t fig it ...
    16. -1
      16 October 2021 22: 11
      Mercury should serve in the Black Sea, where his ancestor showed valor and courage. Let them build faster. And I believe in what will be accepted. that before a risky business it is impossible to take pictures.
    17. 0
      4 December 2021 23: 02
      is the lead corvette of Project 20386, a series of ships of which is intended to replace the frigates of Project 11356


      Why is this verbiage?
      Why not write honestly that the corvettes of project 20386 are intended to replace the three frigates of project 11356 that have not been received by the Black Sea Fleet due to the lack of a GTU produced by Motor Sich.

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