In Moscow, an unknown person in camouflage opened fire near the building of one of the schools

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In Moscow, an unknown person in camouflage opened fire near the building of one of the schools

The Sirena plan has been introduced in Moscow. According to the latest data, this is due to the shooting in the area of ​​one of the capital's schools. We are talking about school number 1260, which is located on Leninsky Prospekt.

Eyewitness reports say that an unknown young man dressed in camouflage opened the shooting.

It is known that the shooting was opened from weapons, which outwardly resembles an automaton. Eyewitnesses report several shots.

At the moment, information about the shooter is contradictory. Some sources say that the shooter was detained, others that he is wanted.

At the same time, there is no data yet about where exactly the unknown was shooting, whether there are victims or injured.

It is known that the school building is cordoned off. At the time of the shooting, there were teachers and students in the building. No one was evacuated from the building of the educational institution. At the same time, it is reported that law enforcement officers cordoned off one of the schools nearby. This is school # 1265.

The police department is located a couple of hundred meters from the educational institution.

After a while, there were reports that the shooting was carried out from an airsoft rifle. There are no official comments from law enforcement officers at the moment.
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    1. +5
      13 October 2021 16: 58
      All right, brainless monkeys jumped up. There is nothing of their own, they can only stupidly “follow the trend”.
      1. +5
        13 October 2021 17: 02
        You begin to understand why the authorities during the Soviet era were silent about all sorts of emergency
        1. KAV
          +5
          13 October 2021 17: 07
          He has already been detained. According to a message from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the shooting was carried out from airsoft weapons.
          1. +1
            13 October 2021 17: 09
            Quote: KAV
            He has already been detained. According to a message from the Ministry of Internal Affairs - the shooting was carried out from airsoft weapons

            People like to play the fool. Especially drunk. The consequences will be in the form of a criminal case under the article "Hooliganism".
            1. -1
              13 October 2021 17: 45
              "Since the Chelninets in 2014 was sentenced to 4 years of suspended imprisonment with a probationary period of 3 years and 6 months for the production, storage and sale of drugs, in total he was sentenced to 4 years and 1 month in prison in a general regime colony."
          2. +4
            13 October 2021 20: 43
            Quote: KAV
            According to a message from the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the shooting was carried out from airsoft weapons.

            I have never seen an airsoft weapon giving a flash and with bullets flying out wassat .
        2. +1
          13 October 2021 17: 08
          At the moment, information about the shooter is contradictory. Some sources say that the shooter was detained, others that he is wanted.
          Detained, ghoul .... In the course of another brainless victim of computer shooters.
        3. +1
          13 October 2021 17: 09
          Quote: 210ox
          You begin to understand why the authorities during the Soviet era were silent about all sorts of emergency

          Dmitry, I don't know what was hushed up there, but I still remember an article in the KP about girls killed from a hunting rifle for a handful of cherries hanging over the fence.
          1. +1
            14 October 2021 11: 37
            There is not for a handful of cherries, there is a long psychological terror against the shooter.
        4. +9
          13 October 2021 17: 21
          Quote: 210ox
          You begin to understand why the authorities during the Soviet era were silent about all sorts of emergency

          By the way, I also often have such a thought .. During the Soviet era, the psychiatric system was still working well .. And in schools, "unbalanced fuckers" were identified in elementary grades and after any prophylaxis they were sent to special schools, where they were brought up differently and this is very all sorts of idlers and their parents were afraid .. And now it's just horror what's going on in schools, etc.
          1. +1
            14 October 2021 14: 33
            And in schools "unbalanced fuckers" even in the elementary grades were identified and after any prophylaxis were sent to special schools ... And now it's just horror what is going on in schools, etc.

            Now they were given the opportunity to acquire almost military types of weapons, which in our time did not exist - this is the explanation of what the "blind" imitation gave us Wild West, first of all the USA !?
        5. 0
          13 October 2021 17: 38
          Quote: 210ox
          You begin to understand why the authorities during the Soviet era were silent about all sorts of emergency

          Remember the old parable about the police and the church.
          "The police are not needed to catch pickpockets, they do not interfere with anyone. It is needed so that the people do not know about all the atrocities committed by criminals. The church is needed not to pray, but so that the people do not know about the otherworldly. phenomena. "
        6. -5
          13 October 2021 20: 54
          Did you live in the USSR or are you just reasoning? Then name the data on any emergency that were hushed up. And also for a convincing comparison, isolate the cases with firearms from the total number of emergency situations.
          1. +2
            14 October 2021 07: 40
            I would name only one, an attack on a school by two servicemen in the 70s near Perm, it seems. And yes, I really lived under the USSR at a quite adult age, unlike those who now can only reason.
          2. +2
            14 October 2021 08: 43
            I have already written this post, I will repeat.
            On December 26, 1980, there was a murder on Zhdanovskaya, and they say the police were popular, they cared about the welfare, this is the face of the era.
            February 11, 1958 pos. Lyamino, Perm region, Komsomol member, secretary of the Komsomol organization 15 murders.
            1950 Moldova s. Gisk a homemade bomb in an educational institution of 21 children and 2 teachers.
            1968, shooting at the station square of Kursk, 13 killed, 11 wounded.
            1976, Estonia, Letipea village, 8 killed, 14 wounded.
            1971 bus explosion in Krasnodar, 10 dead.
            February 22, 1973 Otradnoye of the Samara region, again employees of the people's militia killed 11, wounded 5 people.
            Were there articles about these incidents on the broadcasters of mass newspapers? Did not have. On the one hand, it was right, people thought that everything was fine and protected them, and on the other hand, it becomes clear that all this security is conditional and simply absent.
            1. +2
              14 October 2021 15: 09
              Thank you for responding and providing a small reference-statistics on the crimes committed and the number of victims in the union. The spread, both geographically and over the years, is quite significant, but most likely there were other cases that remained outside your field of vision. But even if we compare the data given by you, then they clearly cannot be compared with what is happening in our time. Fools were, are and will always be, but the important thing is that at that time the media did not let such news uncontrollably, not like today, when everyone / anyone with a smartphone in their hands pretends to be a journalist, a lawyer, and a judge .. They write what they want, shoot everything and post it wherever they want.
              The worst case from the cited by you happened in Moldova in 1950, only five years after the end of the Second World War, and for some reason it seems to me that there could be a connection between these events ...
              And then, if we abstract from these murders with gunfire, then murders are committed in other ways and by improvised means. There are criminal showdowns, there are criminals "at liberty" and who run away and kill bystanders or those who interfere ... Murders in street fights, domestic murders, etc. etc. There were also cases of aircraft hijacking and passing victims (as it is customary today to designate those who accidentally "caught" a bullet or a sharpener ... I agree that this is not the same thing, but the scale of such atrocities has grown significantly in comparison with Soviet times. indisputable fact!
      2. 0
        13 October 2021 17: 12
        Quote: DmSol
        All right, brainless monkeys jumped up. There is nothing of their own, they can only stupidly “follow the trend”.

        There has been no war for a long time, so the monkeys have beguiled the military "do as I do" with the modern "be in trend".
        1. +3
          14 October 2021 10: 42
          Vyacheslav hi Please pay attention to the appearance of the pukalka. In the countries of "true crap" this fool was already cooling off in a pool of his own blood, and now he makes a face at the camera. Such things cannot be taken to no. Or vice versa, a video of him kneeling and begging for forgiveness. It is necessary to show the result, not the event.
      3. -11
        13 October 2021 17: 16
        All right, brainless monkeys jumped up. There is nothing of their own, they can only stupidly “follow the trend”.
        What trend? "Columbine"? And what do you mean by yours in this perspective? Beslan, "Nord-Ost" .... How to understand you !!! ??? What trend are you printing about? Explain.
        1. +10
          13 October 2021 17: 36
          Social networks made Kazan and Perm shooters heroes. All this snot about the mysterious soul of a teenager and a lack of attention to him lead to the fact that the child seems to be not, but a victim of the system. As a result, you will receive, sign now the followers will run in orderly rows. Arming as much as possible. Columbine has nothing to do with it, it is our own, its own high-fire theme has risen.
          1. +4
            13 October 2021 17: 46
            Well, damn it .. we also post photos that youngsters are peeing ... but "you can't upload photos of victims" .. but collect all the "squealing about" I fell in love with him, he's a honey "and in the morgue, so that the bodies of dead children they were preparing for the funeral ... the situation will immediately change
            1. +7
              13 October 2021 17: 53
              I'm talking about this too. This face should not be retouched. A halo of mystery and heroism of a fighter against the system should not curl behind him. If such a shooter was banged during the arrest, then it is necessary to show his guts in full screen, so much so that most of the spectators run. If, due to a misunderstanding, he was not reassured immediately, then we need shots where he crawls on the floor in his own shit, drooling and snot, praying for forgiveness from the victims. Then he will only cause disgust and the number of followers will be minimized.
              1. +6
                13 October 2021 17: 55
                remember the case of the pedophile historian from the wrestlers - at the PACE session they wanted to "condemn Russia", but ours just showed photos from his "personal collection" ... there were no defenders at that meeting
          2. -5
            13 October 2021 18: 42
            Social networks made Kazan and Perm shooters heroes. All this snot about the mysterious soul of a teenager and a lack of attention to him lead to the fact that the child seems to be not, but a victim of the system. As a result, you will receive, sign now the followers will run in orderly rows. Arming as much as possible. Columbine has nothing to do with it, it is our own, its own high-fire theme has risen.
            You yourself came up with it? Or who suggested? What is the hype? To kill people? What social networks made that shooter a hero? Name these social networks so as not to be unfounded. With the publication from these social networks as an example. The site allows it. Next. We are waiting for your revelations. ...
            1. +2
              14 October 2021 07: 09
              Don't know how to use search at all? And in the telegram and VK there are followers and imitators of such delusions. And if you had read the comments there, you would have combed yourself in the most indecent places.
          3. 0
            14 October 2021 14: 59
            I would pay attention to how you use the word "hero";)
      4. -2
        13 October 2021 20: 50
        Which trend? Sale of weapons - everyone rushed to buy and he there too, right? Or did everyone decide to check the purchase and he is after them? Probably such a game of trends will not just end up as long as there is a sale of arms to private hands.
        The root cause is in the lobbyists of the production and sale of this very weapon ...
        And first of all, something must be done with it.
    2. +5
      13 October 2021 17: 00
      The weapon is airsoft, and the deadline is real. Close the joker on the maximum deadline with broad coverage of the results of the trial in the media.
      1. -2
        13 October 2021 17: 26
        So it is necessary to introduce restrictions on airsoft weapons so that all kinds of psychos do not frighten the people.
        1. +3
          13 October 2021 18: 01
          Quote: Nikolay Ivanov_5
          So it is necessary to impose restrictions on airsoft weapons

          In fact, there you can catch on to the fact that this weapon can cause harm to health ...
          1. 0
            13 October 2021 18: 04
            And so it is.
    3. +7
      13 October 2021 17: 01
      Got caught? To count it, this is the first thing!
      I don’t understand what motivates such people - the voices in the head or the idea?
    4. +1
      13 October 2021 17: 02
      The shooter has already been detained, he lives next to the school:


      1. -1
        13 October 2021 17: 04
        Why is a face so pretty, not in tears and snot? Flaw
        1. -4
          13 October 2021 17: 05
          Why is a face so pretty, not in tears and snot? Flaw

          Why should he be in snot and tears? He shot with pneumatic material, this is not prohibited by law.
          1. +2
            13 October 2021 17: 12
            Is it allowed to shoot from the pneumatic in the street? For the fun of it? This is at least a hooligan pulls.
            1. -6
              13 October 2021 17: 16
              Is it allowed to shoot from the pneumatic in the street? For the fun of it? This is at least a hooligan pulls.

              Yes, because it is a toy in our legislation.
              1. +2
                13 October 2021 17: 37
                Quote: Bradley
                Is it allowed to shoot from the pneumatic in the street? For the fun of it? This is at least a hooligan pulls.

                Yes, because it is a toy in our legislation.

                Nevertheless, there is a fine in the AP case
                1. -5
                  13 October 2021 18: 51
                  Nevertheless, there is a fine in the AP case

                  There is no penalty there, unless the pneumatic goes beyond the power (I forgot how much in J), and if J is no longer a toy, then yes, there is a penalty for shooting in a public place.
                  And so, if you bought a regular pneumatic and did not modify it to increase J, then nothing should be for him according to the law.
                  1. +3
                    14 October 2021 06: 08
                    Nobody canceled the ban on shooting in settlements - there is a fine there
                    1. -1
                      14 October 2021 08: 21
                      Nobody canceled the ban on shooting in settlements - there is a fine there

                      A ban from what, from a toy? The pneumatic is fined from a certain amount of J, but then it is no longer a toy.
                      This is the same as being fined for shooting with a water pistol or a pistol with bullets, which cost 300 rubles each.
                  2. +1
                    14 October 2021 14: 02
                    An airsoft gun is most likely not pneumatic, but electric. In the sense that he does not have a pneumocylinder.
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          3. -7
            13 October 2021 17: 31
            Quote: Bradley
            Why is a face so pretty, not in tears and snot? Flaw

            Why should he be in snot and tears? He shot with pneumatic material, this is not prohibited by law.

            Introduce restrictions on airsoft weapons from all sorts of psychos, so that people are not frightened.
            1. -5
              13 October 2021 18: 52
              Introduce restrictions on airsoft weapons from all sorts of psychos, so that people are not frightened

              And then we will ban water pistols?
              1. -1
                13 October 2021 18: 54
                This weapon can harm health ???
                1. -5
                  13 October 2021 18: 56
                  This weapon can harm health ???

                  In theory, yes. Even a piece of cardboard can be harmful to your health. But what is pneumatic, what is a drive, these are toys.
                  1. 0
                    13 October 2021 18: 57
                    In our city, one psycho shot at children, which made one child disabled.
                    Are you ready for your child to become disabled ???
                    1. -5
                      13 October 2021 19: 41
                      In our city, one psycho shot at children, which made one child disabled.
                      Are you ready for your child to become disabled ???

                      And where does this? We are talking about pneumatic / drive.
                  2. AUL
                    +2
                    13 October 2021 19: 39
                    Quote: Bradley
                    In theory, yes. Even a piece of cardboard can be harmful to your health.

                    Theoretically - any material body under certain conditions can cause harm to health. But it does not follow from this that everything should be prohibited.
                    1. -4
                      13 October 2021 19: 42
                      Theoretically - any material body under certain conditions can cause harm to health. But it does not follow from this that everything should be prohibited.

                      This is what I am writing.
                      1. +2
                        13 October 2021 20: 14
                        I realized that you are afraid not to undergo a psychiatric examination.
                        1. -3
                          13 October 2021 20: 17
                          I realized that you are afraid not to undergo a psychiatric examination.

                          It's hard not to pass it.
                        2. 0
                          13 October 2021 20: 18
                          So what are you afraid of ???
                        3. -3
                          13 October 2021 20: 18
                          So what are you afraid of ???

                          And where did you get the idea that I'm afraid?
                        4. +1
                          13 October 2021 20: 20
                          Why don't you want to impose a restriction on getting crazy airsoft weapons ???
                        5. -4
                          13 October 2021 20: 21
                          Why don't you want to impose a restriction on getting crazy airsoft weapons ???

                          What for? What's the point?
                        6. 0
                          13 October 2021 20: 24
                          Protect people from incidents involving the use of airsoft guns on people by psychos.
                        7. -5
                          13 October 2021 20: 26
                          Protect people from incidents involving the use of airsoft guns on people by psychos.

                          If in the summer, then in the worst case, there will be a bruise. It's OK. Moreover, such a shooter will simply receive a luley.
                          An airsoft drive is no more dangerous than a stick.
                        8. +2
                          13 October 2021 20: 27
                          And if it gets into the eye, how did it happen ???
                        9. -5
                          13 October 2021 20: 28
                          And if it gets into the eye, how did it happen ???

                          A stick can get into the eye, and the keys to the house. And I am still silent about the pepper spray.
                        10. 0
                          13 October 2021 20: 32
                          Goodbye. Unfortunately, I will no longer be able to maintain this dialogue with you.
                        11. -5
                          13 October 2021 20: 44
                          Goodbye. Unfortunately, I will no longer be able to maintain this dialogue with you.

                          All the best.
                    2. +1
                      13 October 2021 19: 50
                      Where did I defend the ban on airsoft weapons ??? I am against the idea that it was possible for people with mental illness to purchase devices that could harm someone's health.
                  3. -1
                    14 October 2021 06: 36
                    Quote: Bradley
                    Even a piece of cardboard can be harmful to your health.


                    So live in a room with soft walls.



                    The bed, perhaps, also needs to be removed, otherwise you will break your head ...
              2. -2
                13 October 2021 23: 47
                Quote: Bradley
                Introduce restrictions on airsoft weapons from all sorts of psychos, so that people are not frightened

                And then we will ban water pistols?

                The main thing is to prohibit the sale and wearing of camouflage, because it is emphasized that
                unknown in camouflage opened fire ...
                If he were in a black sweatshirt, there would be nothing.laughing
                1. +1
                  14 October 2021 06: 38
                  Quote: Piramidon
                  an unknown person in camouflage opened fire ...
                  If he were in a black sweatshirt, there would be nothing.


                  ... or a Spiderman suit.
          4. -1
            13 October 2021 17: 47
            such clowns need to be shot in the knee from the service ... there was a hero
      2. Well, what did this worm lack in life?
        1. -2
          13 October 2021 17: 06
          Well, what did this worm lack in life?

          It looks like attention.
          1. +2
            13 October 2021 17: 11
            Well, some will always have problems with this.
          2. +3
            13 October 2021 17: 12
            Well, that's how he got it. Attention from the Ministry of Internal Affairs.
          3. -1
            13 October 2021 17: 22
            Quote: Bradley
            Well, what did this worm lack in life?

            It looks like attention.

            Well, let him look for this attention in geyrope!
        2. +1
          13 October 2021 17: 15
          Did you have an Izhevsk air balloon in your childhood? Didn't you shoot at jackdaws from around the corner? Well ... it happens
          1. -1
            13 October 2021 17: 19
            It happens. A classmate in the 70s for shooting jackdaws was pulled into the DKM
            1. 0
              13 October 2021 17: 25
              For example, from my own experience - a little later, in the 80s, we climbed in the evenings to the DOSAAF shooting range and fired 5.6 rimfire from TOZiks, and then heroically ran away from the military commissar Ivan Yakovlevich. And nothing. Everyone defended their homeland, no one mowed, all men grew up normal, by the way ...
          2. +2
            13 October 2021 17: 26
            Quote: impostor
            Did you have an Izhevsk air balloon in your childhood? Didn't you shoot at jackdaws from around the corner? Well ... it happens

            Dad poured a smoothbore on the crows, well, when then. From the window. Nobody came. True, it was in the USSR ...
            1. -1
              13 October 2021 17: 38
              The only thing, a bit noisy, but it is unlikely that the headmistress could be someone other than a crow, right?
          3. 0
            13 October 2021 17: 26
            I still have it, though not Izhevsk, but Turkish ...
            1. +1
              13 October 2021 17: 30
              Licking my lips on "Ataman"
    5. +1
      13 October 2021 17: 03
      relax, it's just a youngster bought some air and tested it on a vacant lot (vacant lots in a white-stone one). But still we are waiting for a ban on pneumatics with any Joules, on airsoft, and on toys for every fireman
      1. +1
        13 October 2021 17: 24
        They forgot about computer games) mizulina and milonov say here it is, the root of world evil)
        1. +1
          13 October 2021 17: 53
          and milonov say
          - damn, well, after all, a real overage freak ...
          1. 0
            13 October 2021 19: 01
            and he's in power, that's what's scary
    6. +2
      13 October 2021 17: 03
      Well, how will they tighten it now? Cut off everyone's right index finger at birth? And the second thing. I do not advise those who like to walk in camouflage to walk in camouflage.
      1. -2
        13 October 2021 17: 24
        Cut off everyone's right index finger at birth?

        Good idea, Vyacheslav! laughing And with regard to left-handers and other fingers, adopt the appropriate amendment. We are waiting for the decision of the State Duma.
        1. +2
          13 October 2021 17: 31
          Kostya, prYuvet! I myself am left-handed, I hold a spoon / fork in my left, a pencil / pen in my right, a HAMMER in my left, a hand saw in my right ...
          1. -3
            13 October 2021 17: 38
            ... I'll tear ALL AORTES with my gums!

            "Where can the peasant go?" (C)
            But it is better not to cut the average, there will be problems with demography, and who will they then prohibit. laughing
          2. 0
            14 October 2021 09: 16
            Me too, we left-handers are the chosen people good laughing
    7. +1
      13 October 2021 17: 04
      Already taken into custody, the airsoft player is magical. In the United States, they would have been shot and it would be rightfully so.
      1. +4
        13 October 2021 17: 27
        This pukalka is quite similar to the AK74. And there they will already understand. Why did this body on the sidewalk decide to joke. Nodo in the net to lay out the result of the upbringing of this idiot to ostracize others
    8. +1
      13 October 2021 17: 05
      Any accepted solution to the problem is only half a measure. A comprehensive solution is needed, starting with education and ending with the control of weapons, any weapons that can even in theory be converted into combat. And they will shoot, because this generation has different idols, those who shoot, and then only think!
    9. -4
      13 October 2021 17: 22
      there were reports that the shooting was carried out from an airsoft rifle.


      Ban on figs, generally ban everything! Let the knives make holes in each other.
      1. +1
        14 October 2021 11: 41
        And give all paintball players a brush and a can of hand-to-hand paint
    10. +3
      13 October 2021 17: 25
      Young woodpecker, well, I wouldn't be surprised if Khinstein now declares war on airsoft, paintball and pneumatics ...
      1. 0
        13 October 2021 17: 43
        In our city, one psycho shot at children, which made one child disabled.
      2. +1
        14 October 2021 11: 52
        I have nothing against the Jews, but Khinshtein ...
        1. +1
          14 October 2021 11: 54
          This is apparently a separate nation laughing, I don't know why, but looking at him on TV, associations with Trotsky arise ...
          1. 0
            14 October 2021 11: 56
            Do you think that fate will be similar in the future? bully
            1. 0
              14 October 2021 11: 58
              Do you see somewhere a person who would be associated with Stalin?
              1. +1
                14 October 2021 12: 06
                Alas, associations can be with anyone, but not with him.
    11. +1
      13 October 2021 17: 43
      Все.
      Airsoft shooters only from 21 years old, only served in the army, etc.
      After a strict check of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, FSB and someone else.
      Urgently!
      1. 0
        13 October 2021 17: 49
        and someone else
        - this is the most serious ...
      2. -2
        13 October 2021 17: 53
        And the sale is allowed only in specialized stores where weapons are sold.
        1. 0
          14 October 2021 16: 15
          What are you talking about? And I thought they were being sold or are being sold at the corner of every street?
    12. -2
      13 October 2021 17: 49
      In my opinion - the mention in the title of the term "shooting", without specifying
      the type of ammunition clearly indicates the use of firearms.
      Therefore, I consider the title extremist, raising the degree.
      tension in society.
      It is unclear why the moderator does not intervene.
      1. 0
        14 October 2021 15: 25
        And if he is the author ...
        1. -1
          14 October 2021 15: 53
          I don’t think it’s possible.
          For cheating would be kicked out in no time, somewhere
          on rambler, change news headlines.
          1. 0
            14 October 2021 15: 58
            I just assumed, especially since the article / note does not have the author as such.
    13. +2
      13 October 2021 19: 28
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Quote: Bradley
      Why is a face so pretty, not in tears and snot? Flaw

      Why should he be in snot and tears? He shot with pneumatic material, this is not prohibited by law.

      Introduce restrictions on airsoft weapons from all sorts of psychos, so that people are not frightened.


      We had a similar case in Bulgaria 5-6 years ago. Two idiots with full camouflage gear, unloading, 1 airsoft AK-74 and 1 PC entered the tram. At the final stop, an MBT was waiting for them (a detachment for fighting terrorism.
      And in Germany, because of such an idiot, airsoft was banned altogether - from an airsoft AK, he shot at his pregnant girlfriend who was beating.
      1. +1
        14 October 2021 11: 39
        Among airsoft players, these are called affectionately "flyers" and get bans on all games, sometimes for life (when the character turns out to be completely inadequate with relapses).
    14. 0
      14 October 2021 08: 29
      Eyewitness reports say that an unknown young man dressed in camouflage opened the shooting.

      It is necessary to destroy such on the spot, so that others are discouraged.
    15. 0
      14 October 2021 09: 12
      These crazy people are popping up all over the place. In Italy, two boys fired at a school with an air rifle, injuring a janitor. Today in Norway another madman injures and kills people with a bow. There are more and more of these deranged loners, and it is always difficult for the police to identify them before they act.
    16. 0
      14 October 2021 11: 36
      Airsoft is not a weapon, it is a children's toy, which is confirmed by the corresponding certificate issued by each store upon sale to each customer. And "shooting" is too loud a statement, only a grandmother at the entrance can take a sound at the level of a clap for shooting. Another whipping up of hysteria? let's start pinching the airsoft players.
    17. 0
      14 October 2021 11: 37
      Quote: Decimalegio
      These crazy people are popping up all over the place. In Italy, two boys fired at a school with an air rifle, injuring a janitor. Today in Norway another madman injures and kills people with a bow. There are more and more of these deranged loners, and it is always difficult for the police to identify them before they act.

      It is impossible to injure anyone from airsoft, unless it is in the eye, but you can also injure in the eye with a finger, it is urgent to amputate the fingers.
      1. 0
        14 October 2021 16: 10
        Also in Italy, airsoft is sold for free and is a toy, but in Italy, and I am sure that also in Russia, there is a crime called "Mining Alarm", that is, committing actions that trigger emergency procedures without the presence of real danger. And it seems to me that this is so.
      2. +1
        14 October 2021 16: 18
        Also, I don't want to prohibit finger possession. They just need to be regulated laughing laughing
    18. 0
      14 October 2021 11: 43
      Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
      Where did I defend the ban on airsoft weapons ??? I am against the idea that it was possible for people with mental illness to purchase devices that could harm someone's health.
      For children of nature: no harm can be inflicted on health from airsoft. Only if you get into the eye, but you can poke your finger into the eye with a similar result. What then - forbid fingers?
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        14 October 2021 16: 13
        It was never said that it was necessary to ban airsoft or pneumatic weapons, which in Italy are sold free of charge up to 7,5 joules of power.
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        14 October 2021 17: 47
        Quote: Nikolai Ivanov_5
        Where did I defend the ban on airsoft weapons ??? I am against the idea that it was possible for people with mental illness to purchase devices that could harm someone's health.
        For children of nature: no harm can be inflicted on health from airsoft. Only if you get into the eye, but you can poke your finger into the eye with a similar result. What then - forbid fingers?
        I also played airsoft at one time. There are quite a few pictures of defeat with airsoft weapons on the Internet - hammering a tooth, torn ears, balls stuck in the skin. I personally witnessed how my "colleagues" did "tuning" their guns that they shot from 180-200 m / s (we have a max-130 m / s in Bulgaria, for pistols at close range 100 and less m / s), and the "sniper" - their "springs" more than 250 m / s.
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          15 October 2021 08: 42
          Overtune lovers are also equated with flyers, at normal games normal organizers always have a chronograph and all drives on it are checked before the game for compliance with the rules on m / s. 180m / s - only a bolt sniper, a secondary pistol is required (no more than 90m / s), the prohibition of firing from the main gun is closer than 5m (sometimes higher). Automatic machines (rifles) -130m / s no more, if 10-110m / s then a pistol is not required, higher - drag the secondary and shoot from it from 5 meters or less. Anything that does not comply with the rules is a ban, but if you come to the training ground and it turns out that you are not playing overtune (you just talk in a party), no one will say anything bad to you. The main requirement of a strike is adequacy, then there will be no injury. And the knocked-out teeth and balls in the ears and lips are for those guys where the orgs at the training ground have a mess, or the guys knew what they were doing and that there would be an overtune. In today's reality (thin trunks of hop rubber bands like MapleLif), tuning above 130 m / s is not needed, the ball flies at 50-60 m stably even at 120 m / s in the gearbox.
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      14 October 2021 11: 51
      [quote = CanecatIn fact, there you can catch on to the fact that this weapon can cause harm to health ... [/ quote] It cannot physically, otherwise all airsoft guns would be disabled. TB is minimal there - eye protection. And the transfer of an uncovered drive, and even more so shooting in a crowded place, is flying. Why only hysterics out of this and inflate HYIP?
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      14 October 2021 11: 53
      Quote: Thrifty
      Any accepted solution to the problem is only half a measure. A comprehensive solution is needed, starting with education and ending with the control of weapons, any weapons that can even in theory be converted into combat. And they will shoot, because this generation has different idols, those who shoot, and then only think!

      If you convert airsoft into combat and survive the test, you will call. You can convert a children's pistol into a combat one with a similar result.
    21. 0
      14 October 2021 12: 56
      Quote: 210ox
      Vyacheslav hi Please pay attention to the appearance of the pukalka. In the countries of "true crap" this fool was already cooling off in a pool of his own blood, and now he makes a face at the camera. Such things cannot be taken to no. Or vice versa, a video of him kneeling and begging for forgiveness. It is necessary to show the result, not the event.

      I would cool down if I started to behave aggressively and poke a barrel at other citizens. If he walked calmly (they can wear it openly in some states) with a belt drive - no one would say a word to him. In general, in our airsoft environment, such a ban is written out with the entry.
    22. 0
      14 October 2021 13: 13
      why doesn't this happen in Belarus, Moldova, Kazakhstan? In the Baltic countries? In the same Ukraine? Are they not following trends? Do they play computer shooters there? What happened to our youth, someone will give a clear answer, without any conspiracy theories there?
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        14 October 2021 15: 23
        Probably computer games will remain that way until a shooter store appears in your city for everyone. And the first, as I think, will be the "advanced" computer players, well, or the second after all the hunters.
        There will be no such shops (laws giving the go-ahead for such trade) - such evil statistics will seriously fall. And if there are no stupid and harmful computer games, then this will also immediately reduce the interest in weapons as such, and along the way the number of people who want to shoot at people.
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      14 October 2021 14: 11
      In such cases, the police / National Guard should immediately open fire to kill. Regardless of age and stuff.
    24. +1
      15 October 2021 08: 44
      Quote: Decimalegio
      possession of the fingers. They just need to be regulated laughing laughing
      Regulating length or thickness :-)?
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      15 October 2021 08: 54
      Quote: Der Spiegel
      why doesn't this happen in Belarus, Moldova, Kazakhstan? In the Baltic countries? In the same Ukraine? Are they not following trends? Do they play computer shooters there? What happened to our youth, someone will give a clear answer, without any conspiracy theories there?
      In Ukraine, a strike is a fairly adequate get-together, left-wing people either quickly get used to and behave normally and play further, or they catch bananas for life and go to shoot at cans in the garden. There are even topics on airsoft resources with photos of flyers of varying degrees of flight and decisions of orgs on their fate, and people arrange a photo hunt with the requirements of bans, so as not to have problems with the law and not to persecute the party.
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      15 October 2021 09: 05
      Quote: alystan
      Probably computer games will remain that way until a shooter store appears in your city for everyone. And the first, as I think, will be the "advanced" computer players, well, or the second after all the hunters.
      There will be no such shops (laws giving the go-ahead for such trade) - such evil statistics will seriously fall. And if there are no stupid and harmful computer games, then this will also immediately reduce the interest in weapons as such, and along the way the number of people who want to shoot at people.

      You know, a couple of these "PC nerds-nagibator" came to our team, stuffed them with full pockets of balls. It turns out that the equipment has a weight, the armor is generally heavy, the helmet too, and all this tripe limits mobility and increases the load on the spine, and the drive + another 3 kilos. And with this furniture you have to move, take shelters that are often extremely uncomfortable, shoot and negotiate with voice gestures on the radio. And the handles heavier than the mouse did not lift anything, the legs do not run in the morning, the press never swayed and they only know about the barbell by hearsay. So fans of online bend over quickly merge into reality. Even then, a 40-year-old uncle is trying to somehow keep in shape.
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      15 October 2021 09: 14
      Quote: Andrey1966
      In such cases, the police / National Guard should immediately open fire to kill. Regardless of age and stuff.

      It is enough to put your muzzle on the floor. Routine forcible detention. Such clowns usually have enough of this experience at the end of their lives.

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