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Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas

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Ukraine does not intend to lose two billion "legal" dollars received annually for gas transit. This was stated by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky.


Speaking at a joint briefing with representatives of the European Union after the Ukraine-EU summit, Zelensky said that Kiev intends to maintain the transit of Russian gas through Ukrainian territory, since it does not want to lose "legitimate income" in the amount of $ 2 billion.

According to the Ukrainian president, Kiev considers the loss of transit "dangerous" and therefore is considering various options for maintaining gas transit, including a complete blocking of the Russian-built Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline. Zelensky stressed that he discussed during the summit the introduction of sanctions against the gas pipeline, as well as the application of a third energy package to it. He recalled that Ukraine stands for the energy security of Europe.

Earlier in Kiev, a special working group was created, which is only looking for ways to preserve gas transit.

Recall that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked Gazprom not to stop gas transit through Ukraine within the framework of the contract valid until 2024, although the company intended to completely minimize it by paying fines to Kiev. At the same time, Putin stressed that Moscow does not intend to increase pumping through the Ukrainian GTS, as this will lead to losses.

Earlier in Ukraine it was stated that they do not receive gas from Russia, but that they import exclusively European gas - by reverse deliveries.
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  1. sakuz
    sakuz 12 October 2021 15: 34
    +52
    Zelensky said that Kiev intends to keep the transit of Russian gas through Ukrainian territory, since it does not want to lose "legitimate income" in the amount of $ 2 billion

    There would be no proud to say nothing ...
    1. Nikolay Ivanov_5
      Nikolay Ivanov_5 12 October 2021 15: 49
      +20
      As usual, Minika Zelensky gets stoned on some rubbish and speaks complete nonsense about her unrealizable fantasies.
      1. Mitroha
        Mitroha 12 October 2021 17: 10
        +17
        "I am sitting here at 16 yards and will continue to sit."
        -, Sharikov © Heart of a dog
        Zelensky said ... Russian gas... does not want to lose "legitimate income" of $ 2 billion
        -, 2021 clown from Ukraine
        Find the difference laughing
        1. Tatyana
          Tatyana 12 October 2021 17: 25
          +5
          Speaking at a joint briefing with representatives of the European Union after the Ukraine-EU summit, Zelenskiy said that Kiev intends to keep the transit of Russian gas through Ukrainian territory, since it does not want to lose "legitimate income" in the amount of $ 2 billion.

          Well, Zelensky! Well, Zelensky !!!
          Zelensky definitely needs to either take off the cross from himself - or put on panties! And then together this in public somehow really looks impudent with him!

          After all, Zelensky promised to end the war in the South-East in Ukraine, allegedly with Russia, and now he categorically does not want to part with the transit of Russian gas through Ukraine! Dollars shake his eyes!
          1. Evil troll
            Evil troll 12 October 2021 20: 01
            +2
            He said - it is necessary, they say, to conduct an impudent policy.
          2. Joker62
            Joker62 13 October 2021 15: 04
            0
            No, his loins with tomatoes are shaking to the point of decency ... wassat
          3. Vladimir Mashkov
            Vladimir Mashkov 14 October 2021 19: 23
            0
            Funny. For some reason the clown Zelya is sure that Russia must contain an arrogant hostile Russophobic ukrovlast! laughing laughing laughing
        2. Ilya22558
          Ilya22558 13 October 2021 10: 05
          +3
          I will continue to quote:
          "Sixteen yards is lovely, but I don't have to feed you on this frog paper."
      2. private person
        private person 12 October 2021 17: 15
        +3
        Recall that Russian President Vladimir Putin asked Gazprom not to stop gas transit through Ukraine within the framework of the contract valid until 2024, although the company intended to completely minimize it by paying fines to Kiev.

        And this is what you think?
      3. The comment was deleted.
    2. knn54
      knn54 12 October 2021 15: 58
      +42
      "Russian gas is the dirtiest in the world due to significant methane emissions during production and transportation, as well as due to corruption, blackmail and manipulation," (Zelensky).
      And after that something to demand
      It seems that the country, in addition to Zelensky, is also ruled by Alzheimer ...
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 12 October 2021 16: 51
        +4
        Quote: knn54
        "Russian gas is the dirtiest in the world due to significant methane emissions during production and transportation, as well as due to corruption, blackmail and manipulation," (Zelensky) ....

        In short, this gas sucks! More soon.
        This is not an Alzheimer, this is a squirrel! Or another animal.
        1. Tigerrr
          Tigerrr 12 October 2021 18: 40
          +4
          This animal is called the "nose track"
        2. Evil543
          Evil543 13 October 2021 08: 01
          +1
          Crocozyabra comes to drug addicts
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 October 2021 17: 22
        +4
        Quote: knn54
        And after that something to demand

        He can demand from his wife, and then if he pays well, but from Russia you need to tenderly ask, standing on bent legs and bowed head with the face "forgive the uncle of the shameful dog."
      3. The comment was deleted.
      4. napalm
        napalm 13 October 2021 15: 04
        +1
        They are at war with Russia as an aggressor, an outpost of Europe. But give me some money anyway.
    3. Jacket in stock
      Jacket in stock 12 October 2021 16: 04
      +7
      His job is to talk nonsense.
    4. LiSiCyn
      LiSiCyn 12 October 2021 16: 09
      +4
      Quote: sakuz
      There would be no proud to say nothing ...

      laughing then they will forget about them ...
      Tariffs for heating and hot water in Kiev will rise to 40% due to the lack of regulatory regulation of gas purchases.

      "This situation will lead to an increase in tariffs for hot water and heating for the population up to 40%, and will complicate the passage of the heating season 2021-2022. The Kiev City Council appeals to the Cabinet of Ministers of Ukraine to prevent an increase in tariffs for heating and hot water supply by providing natural gas to the heat producer without commercial intermediaries, "- said the deputy of the Kiev City Council Vadim Storozhuk.
    5. ALARI
      ALARI 12 October 2021 16: 09
      +6
      - Consent is a product with complete non-resistance of the parties.
      - Well, the dog, - whispered Ostap in Hippolytus's ear.
      "Twelve Chairs."
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 12 October 2021 16: 55
        +3
        Quote: ALARI
        Speaks well, dog, ”whispered Ostap in Hippolytus's ear.

        And he said so loudly, hare nonsense, on the panel
    6. Brturin
      Brturin 12 October 2021 16: 24
      +8
      Quote: sakuz
      in the amount of $ 2 billion

      he has not yet been told that 2 billion was last year at 65 billion cubic meters, this year 40 billion cubic meters. and it will be about $ 1,3 billion ... or it rounds like that ...
      1. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 12 October 2021 16: 57
        0
        Quote: BrTurin
        or it rounds like that ...

        Does not "round,"
        1. restless
          restless 13 October 2021 05: 10
          +2
          It is strange for a Jew to include banderon insolence ...
      2. fa2998
        fa2998 12 October 2021 20: 17
        +1
        Yes, he was modest. I could say (round off) -3-5 billion. There, the tariffs for pumping have long been lomyat, they knew that we had nowhere to go before - there is only one way to Europe. hi
    7. Vend
      Vend 12 October 2021 17: 18
      +4
      So it was necessary not to quarrel with Russia, so as not to lose billions. And now with a bare bottom to Europe. But Europe just doesn't need Ukraine
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 October 2021 17: 25
        +3
        Quote: Wend
        So it was necessary not to quarrel with Russia, so as not to lose billions.

        That is who makes him bark at Russia, so let him demand these lard - "no one is forgotten, and nothing is forgotten."
      2. Polite Moose
        Polite Moose 12 October 2021 19: 10
        +4
        Quote: Wend
        So it was necessary not to quarrel with Russia, so as not to lose billions.

        They made so much dough on the selection and on the "reverse" that honest transiters never dreamed of in erotic dreams.
      3. abrakadabre
        abrakadabre 14 October 2021 08: 22
        0
        And now with a bare bottom to Europe. But Europe just doesn't need Ukraine
        Why is that? Naked butts are loved in Europe. Of course they will not pay, but they love the backsides ... This is the whole of today's Europe.
    8. Rurikovich
      Rurikovich 12 October 2021 18: 21
      0
      Quote: sakuz
      There would be no proud to say nothing ..

      yes Better to remain silent than to open your mouth and dispel all doubts ... " lol request
    9. Hagen
      Hagen 12 October 2021 18: 41
      0
      Quote: sakuz
      There would be no proud to say nothing ...

      To do this, you need to be an adequate politician, and not a clown in the circus arena.
    10. Simon
      Simon 13 October 2021 08: 37
      +2
      Zelensky! Yes, he flutters the whole world that he is at war with Russia, and where it is seen that the enemy, as a friend, helped. request
    11. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 38
      +2
      Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas

      Chroni then these "legitimate" billions in the Bank of Russia wink
      The statement of this ignorance of the politician no longer surprises anyone, and they are already beginning to annoy the owners
    12. zenion
      zenion 14 October 2021 00: 29
      +1
      They sucked gas from Russia and will continue to suck if it is no longer gas or a pipe. The main thing is that they pay, and they will suck.
  2. Andrei Nikolaevich
    Andrei Nikolaevich 12 October 2021 15: 34
    +15
    Sniffed and carries, all sorts of nonsense. After such words, the EU will speed up the commissioning of the SP-2.
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 12 October 2021 15: 38
      +14
      Our mushroom season is over. They're in full swing. Not surprising.......
      1. carstorm 11
        carstorm 11 12 October 2021 15: 42
        +6
        Disputes scattered here and crushes everyone in a row. And pretty much as I see it.
      2. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 12 October 2021 17: 26
        +1
        Quote: Alien From
        Our mushroom season is over. They're in full swing. Not surprising..

        It's hot there, and from the heat mushrooms are "cocky", stronger than cocaine.
    2. Egoza
      Egoza 12 October 2021 15: 40
      +7
      Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich
      After such words, the EU will speed up the commissioning of the SP-2.

      And the whole "Ukrainian army ...", that is. the special gas group will not be able to stop the SP-2. Not only not politicians, but also not businessmen!
      1. Brturin
        Brturin 12 October 2021 19: 41
        +1
        Quote: Egoza
        those. special gas group will not be able to stop SP-2

        Specialist. group ... SP-2 ... let them do what is at their side - the modernization of the GTS, which they were reminded of ...
        “We reaffirmed the role of Ukraine as a strategic country for gas transit and reaffirmed our support for the continuation of gas transit through Ukraine after 2024. We stressed the importance of continuing to modernize the Ukrainian national gas transportation system,” the joint statement reads. https://1prime.ru/energy/20211012/834945530.html
  3. alexniko77
    alexniko77 12 October 2021 15: 41
    +20
    "because he does not want to lose" legitimate income "in the amount of $ 2 billion."
    I wonder what kind of law this is and what kind of eccentric it is written.
  4. wandlitz
    wandlitz 12 October 2021 15: 41
    +14
    Earlier in Kiev, a special working group was created, which is only looking for ways to preserve gas transit.
    To begin with, we would offer GAZPROM a reduction in the tariff for pumping, bonuses for an increase in volumes ...
    1. Alien From
      Alien From 12 October 2021 16: 04
      +9
      The actor has not yet realized that he is no longer in the cinema.
      1. Tigerrr
        Tigerrr 12 October 2021 18: 42
        +2
        But how he played Napoleon! I haven't played enough yet
      2. Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira
        Sebastian Aristarkhovich Pereira 14 October 2021 12: 16
        +2
        The funniest "musical" president, the most "creative" kuleba of foreign rights, the most gullible people of the most absurd country!
  5. rocket757
    rocket757 12 October 2021 15: 41
    +3
    Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas
    A naive o / B \ dolb is a bansky boy ... although, maybe the truth is a fool / R \ ilka full, with a soggy mo / Z \ gm, who will understand him, what is he doing there ...
    1. ermak124.0
      ermak124.0 12 October 2021 15: 53
      +4
      Albany ... oh!
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 12 October 2021 15: 57
        +4
        the rule is that it does not allow you to write what you need ...
        1. Alien From
          Alien From 12 October 2021 16: 05
          +7
          Do not write, otherwise they will be punished))) All adequate understand you good
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 October 2021 15: 03
            0
            Greed and stupidity has no limits ...
    2. Reptiloid
      Reptiloid 12 October 2021 16: 59
      +2
      Quote: rocket757
      ..... who will understand him, why is he there / Yu / han ...

      .... well, think of it --- an injection, well, an injection, so an injection!
      Injected and went! And he went and went!
      ........... I'm not afraid of injections, I want to and --- I will inject ...
      ............ Why did I stand against the wall? -----
      ............. My knees are trembling ..
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 October 2021 15: 02
        0
        There was an empty little man, it got even worse.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 40
      +3
      Quote: rocket757
      Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas
      A naive o / B \ dolb is a bansky boy ... although, maybe the truth is a fool / R \ ilka full, with a soggy mo / Z \ gm, who will understand him, what is he doing there ...

      Everything is simpler. Ukrainian political illiteracy and rudeness of its "elite"
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 13 October 2021 15: 01
        +1
        You can say, from rags to riches, but it does not converge ... because they have taken all the dirt with them and do not intend to part with it.
        1. Reptiloid
          Reptiloid 13 October 2021 15: 14
          +1
          Quote: rocket757
          You can say, from rags to riches, .......

          Victor, impression, recourse that it is easier for the worst to get to the very top. In any country.
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 October 2021 15: 29
            0
            Dmitry, there is also not everything is simple .... bickering at all levels, above average.
            Not everyone is ready to stick into that jar, where all sorts of "gadovpopare" and everything is poisonous, prickly, biting ...
            1. Reptiloid
              Reptiloid 13 October 2021 16: 05
              +1
              Quote: rocket757
              Dmitry, there is also not everything is simple .... bickering at all levels, .........
              The higher, the angrier and more unprincipled to be in order to bite others and push them down.
              Or serious patrons, it would be helpful to rise higher ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 13 October 2021 16: 20
                0
                No patrons last forever! And besides, the "Kremlin towers" are a joke with a sense ...
                So everywhere, in general. It will always be like this, as long as high state, managerial posts are PRIVILEGES, and not work for the good of not oneself personally.
                1. Reptiloid
                  Reptiloid 13 October 2021 16: 33
                  +2
                  Victor, about what
                  ... to work for the good of not myself ...

                  can we talk? especially if you recall the words of officials about the people, pensioners .. am .. in their heads they have already equated the population with the serfs.
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 13 October 2021 17: 49
                    0
                    Greyhound goes off scale ... the babosiks, when there are a lot of them, they turned their brains on one side ... although it was already ready to do just that!
                    This is to the question of who and how got there, crawled, leaked.
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 13 October 2021 20: 33
          +3
          Quote: rocket757
          they took all the dirt with them and do not intend to part with it

          They intend to ... sell it at a higher price winked
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 13 October 2021 22: 05
            0
            So they do ... those guys have nothing else for their souls, but they want to have / have ...
  6. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 12 October 2021 15: 42
    +15
    Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas

    Legal? Your legitimate billions of liters of water in the CCM - run and collect. Still, it's time to show on the example of one, separately taken country, how and where to spit. It's just time. There are established gas prices on European exchanges - take as much as you can get.
  7. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 12 October 2021 15: 45
    +10
    Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas
    This is understandable, the grabbers are still the same. He did not plow, did not sow, but eat first. angry
    1. VORON538
      VORON538 12 October 2021 16: 02
      +12
      The typical freeloader claims that Russia should support Ukraine.
    2. sabakina
      sabakina 12 October 2021 16: 57
      +6
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas
      This is understandable, the grabbers are still the same. He did not plow, did not sow, but eat first. angry

      That's right, Soyuzmultfilm doesn't lie!
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 42
      +3
      Quote: Mavrikiy
      Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas
      This is understandable, the grabbers are still the same. He did not plow, did not sow, but eat first. angry

      This is where they got the notion "out of concept" that everyone owes them?
  8. dzvero
    dzvero 12 October 2021 15: 46
    +2
    And what is the blue and white flag in the photo to the right of the EU-ovsky?
  9. Cowbra
    Cowbra 12 October 2021 15: 47
    +9
    This is against the background of the fact that Ukraine has not been pumping gas into UGS facilities for a week and has already started sampling from them. steals European gas? Already freezing Europe? Selyansky, after that, it’s definitely SP-2 without a license, even - will be launched immediately
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 44
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      those. steals European gas?

      They do not even understand this, they think that everyone owes them, and everything that is not there, or is with them, is theirs. fool
  10. Cron
    Cron 12 October 2021 15: 48
    +7
    Earlier in Ukraine it was stated that they do not receive gas from Russia, but that they import exclusively European gas - by reverse deliveries.

    There is no real reverse, it physically cannot be, it is only on paper. All the same Russian gas is taken from the pipe, but at the prices of European gas hubs. They can buy fuel rods and electricity in Russia, but they cannot conclude direct gas contracts. Look for someone who benefits from it and who warms their hands on it.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 47
      +2
      Quote: Cron
      They can buy fuel rods and electricity in Russia, but they cannot conclude direct gas contracts. Look for someone who benefits from it and who warms their hands on it.

      Interesting. Explain more clearly. I, for example, are not in the subject of details
      hi
  11. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 12 October 2021 15: 48
    +7
    Ursula and Barrel will chip in and pay non-cash for these 2 watermelons. And they can even oblige Germany to take ukrov for maintenance. They still bear no responsibility for the temperature in German houses to the burghers. Than the Ukrainians are worse than the Greeks or the Poles with the Balts, which Germany contains by the decision of the European Commission. fool
  12. ermak124.0
    ermak124.0 12 October 2021 15: 51
    +13
    Did this clown forget that Ukraine is at war with Russia ??? winked
    1. Vadim237
      Vadim237 12 October 2021 16: 03
      +6
      He has two parallel realities.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 13 October 2021 13: 49
        +2
        Quote: Vadim237
        He has two parallel realities.

        In my opinion, you raised him, and a little yes
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 13 October 2021 20: 46
          +2
          Quote: Terenin
          Quote: Vadim237
          He has two parallel realities.

          In my opinion, you raised him, and a little yes

          This T-9 (text correction) hesitated, I wrote "and a lot"
  13. Dimy4
    Dimy4 12 October 2021 15: 52
    +3
    Who is there in terms of height to build?
  14. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 12 October 2021 15: 56
    +14
    What do people smoke? Or where do you study business?
    1. There is no monopoly on transit.
    2. There is no deep relationship
    3. They threaten to join NATO
    4. Nothing can be negotiated
    5. and what they did not agree on ...
    6. You don't give cheaper prices
    7. Those are the state of the pipeline under "?"
    8 lard was taken and thrown ...
    What else have I forgotten?

    What should force a monopolist to force gas transit?
    "Head to head" with Ukraine are Bulgarians, whom they wanted to give a transit pipe and make a hub for the whole of southern Europe, and they refused .... and received a dead-end pipe from the Turks with the same gas.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 13 October 2021 20: 49
      +2
      Quote: Zaurbek
      What else have I forgotten?

      That it is impossible to convince them No. Waste of time.
  15. fuffi
    fuffi 12 October 2021 15: 57
    +13
    how you want dirty, smelly, aggressive gas. Can't even eat matzo
    1. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 12 October 2021 17: 15
      0
      Tell Mikhelson this, otherwise he won't get drunk.
  16. Jacket in stock
    Jacket in stock 12 October 2021 16: 06
    +3
    But I don’t believe that he doesn’t understand what kind of snowstorm he’s carrying, but there’s nowhere to go, the position obliges.
    That's what I don't understand, why the whole war is only around gas.
    For some reason, they pump oil, buy gasoline / diesel fuel, even lard without noise and dust.
    And with gas such troubles ...
    Is it really just because Bayden's son specializes in gas?
    1. zwlad
      zwlad 12 October 2021 16: 19
      +4
      That's what I don't understand, why the whole war is only around gas.

      Well, for example.
      The entire industry in Europe is now tied to gas. And energy too.
      The United States did everything to make Europe kill its coal, oil, nuclear energy under the guise of not being environmentally friendly. The states do not need another competitor (China is enough for the eyes). Therefore, Europe had to be strangled a little.
      Plus, they wanted to put Europe on their own LNG.
  17. zwlad
    zwlad 12 October 2021 16: 14
    +4
    because he does not want to lose "legitimate income" in the amount of $ 2 billion.

    It's interesting to look at that law.
  18. Stepan S
    Stepan S 12 October 2021 16: 15
    +4
    There is so much impudence in one formulation of the question "legitimate billions", but the goals of achievement are generally beyond the bounds of reason - "we will fight until the blocking of SP-2." And after that it still hopes for transit? Even after stopping SP-2? Rather, then there will be no gas in Europe at all.
  19. valentin light
    valentin light 12 October 2021 16: 16
    +3
    Ukraine has nothing legal, even the disputed territory.
    Gas is a commodity and, like any commodity, the owner of it has the right to sell it as and to whomever he wants, this is the "market economy" denied by Soviets, where the volume, price and method of delivery determine the market demand and the seller's profit.
    One "Turkish Stream" is enough for the needs of Serbia, and Austria and Bulgaria, while Germany is fully supplied with "Nord Stream-1".
  20. alystan
    alystan 12 October 2021 16: 18
    +1
    So he got a "mind" from his curators, who themselves are not averse to profit free at every opportunity. And they also come up with pretexts to chop off someone else's a little, as, for example, in the case of gas and oil pipelines, then retroactively adding something to the long-signed contracts, then inventing new conditions for the use of ready-made infrastructure (well, or almost ready e.g. 3rd Energy Package and Nord Stream 2).
  21. APASUS
    APASUS 12 October 2021 16: 20
    0
    Normally he was slashed. On the one hand, he is at war with Russia and immediately asks not to turn off the gas from Russia
    Alzheimer's or still Quarter 95?
  22. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 12 October 2021 16: 24
    +3
    Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas

  23. boris epstein
    boris epstein 12 October 2021 16: 42
    +2
    The gas pumping contract is drawn up on a pump or pay basis. Even though there is gas in the pipe, at least not, it's still the same 2 billion. So why does Zelensky demand exactly gas with molecules of aggression?
    1. valentin light
      valentin light 12 October 2021 17: 26
      +2
      In 2021-2024, Russia is obliged to pump over 40 billion cubic meters a year under an agreement with a state unfriendly to Russia.
      For 9 months of 2021, about 33 (32.666) billion cubic meters have already been pumped.

      Russia is fulfilling the treaty. What they signed up for is what the nationalists, fans of Bandera, who are "at war" with the "thief" of Russia, will receive.
      And then it's not Ukraine's business how Russia will pump gas and where.
      1. boris epstein
        boris epstein 12 October 2021 17: 44
        +2
        The fact of the matter is that you don't have to download it. Is obliged to either pump 40 billion cubic meters, OR pay 2 billion. Question: Why Putin ordered to pump? In my opinion, it is better to pay 2 billion and let Ukraine try to buy for these 2 billion 40 billion cubic meters at current prices. Russia has already punished Moldova. Sandu did not want to go to Moscow for gas negotiations a month ago. She had a month to renew the contract for the supply of gas at the same prices. Now her minister is trying to persuade Moscow, but nothing comes of it.
        1. Liam
          Liam 12 October 2021 17: 59
          -1
          Quote: Boris Epstein
          Russia has already punished Moldova. Sandu did not want to go to Moscow for gas negotiations a month ago. She had a month to renew the contract for the supply of gas at the same prices. Now her minister is trying to persuade Moscow, but nothing comes of it.

          What horrors ... tell me more about this insider
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 13 October 2021 09: 37
            +1
            A month ago, the contract for the supply of gas between Russia and Moldova expired. If during this month Moldova asked Russia to extend the contract (this option is spelled out in the contract), it would receive gas at the same price. But Sandu is the next "queen of the world" and refused to go to Moscow for negotiations with Putin on gas. The term stipulated by the contract has ended. Now the Moldovan minister has gone to negotiations on gas. But he was refused the previous price. What else is not clear?
            1. Liam
              Liam 13 October 2021 10: 43
              0
              In general, the deadline expired on September 30 and it was extended for a month until October 31. The price formula was agreed upon a long time ago - the price of two winter quarters is tied to the price of oil, the price of two summer quarters is to the spot. President Sandu has nothing to do with gas contracts either formally or in fact. The contract with Gazprom is concluded by Moldova Gas, 60% of which belongs to the same Gazprom.
              You seem to have no idea about Moldovan gas affairs.
              1. boris epstein
                boris epstein 13 October 2021 16: 22
                0
                So what is the Moldovan minister asking Russia now? And who, after that, has no idea about Moldovan affairs?
                Hungary ON TIME hurried in advance and EXTENDED the contract for 15 years on the same terms. Who interfered with Moldova?
                1. Liam
                  Liam 13 October 2021 17: 46
                  0
                  Quote: Boris Epstein
                  So what is the Moldovan minister asking Russia now?

                  He is not asking for anything, but is negotiating a new contract.
                  Quote: Boris Epstein
                  And who, after that, has no idea about Moldovan affairs?

                  You, of course. Moldova has been without a government for 8 months. The elections took place in July and the current government was formed in mid-August.
                  1. boris epstein
                    boris epstein 13 October 2021 17: 53
                    -2
                    I shrug, you are not following the events. Well, stay in your ukrovelichii and delusion. I will not interfere with you.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 13 October 2021 18: 12
                      0
                      Drain counted)
                      1. boris epstein
                        boris epstein 14 October 2021 16: 33
                        0
                        And you won't have to merge yourself?
                        ARTICLE published on 13.10.2021 .: "Moldova was left without gas: Sandu learned a lesson from Russia
                        The Emergency Situations Commission of Moldova introduced a high alert regime in the gas sector today.
                        This was announced by the Minister of Infrastructure and Regional Development of Moldova Andrei Spinu, who recently traveled to St. Petersburg to negotiate the purchase of fuel, but he was not even received by the head of "Gazprom" Alexey Miller.
                        “We are declaring an emergency to be ready for any scenario. The state of readiness means that institutions can take concrete measures to protect citizens, ”Spinu said.
                        Today, Prime Minister of Moldova Natalia Gavrilica ordered to check all natural gas reserves of the sector companies and inspect opportunities.
                        Moldova has problems not only with gas, but also with electricity. The Moldavskaya GRES located in Transnistria announced a reduction in the supply of electricity to the right bank ... "
                        The article is long, so there is still a lot of interesting things. The one who laughs last laughs well.
        2. Pilat2009
          Pilat2009 13 October 2021 10: 14
          -1
          Quote: boris epstein
          The fact of the matter is that you don't have to download it. Is obliged to either pump 40 billion cubic meters, OR pay 2 billion. Question: Why Putin ordered to pump? In my opinion, it is better to pay 2 billion and let Ukraine try to buy for these 2 billion 40 billion cubic meters at current prices. Russia has already punished Moldova. Sandu did not want to go to Moscow for gas negotiations a month ago. She had a month to renew the contract for the supply of gas at the same prices. Now her minister is trying to persuade Moscow, but nothing comes of it.

          That is, you are ready to give 2 billion just to annoy Ukraine? By the way, the issue of refusal of transit was discussed between Germany and the United States, and they decided to put more sanctions in the event of a stop
          1. boris epstein
            boris epstein 13 October 2021 16: 19
            -1
            No, I am ready to fully comply with the agreement signed by both parties. I am obliged to either pump 40 billion cubic meters, OR pay 2 billion. That is, for Russia it is absolutely identical. And let the problems of Ukraine bother its president, cabinet, Verkhovna Zrada ... to annoy Ukraine more. than to annoy ALL previous presidents and the people themselves, led to demagoguery and Russophobia, is impossible. About sanctions. They have already been nailed so many that there is no account. But for some reason they are not striking at Russia, but at the oppressors.
            The Ukrainian GTS has not been serviced for 31 years. There is an immeasurable sidebar. Theft is at every step.
            1. Pilat2009
              Pilat2009 14 October 2021 13: 14
              -1
              Quote: boris epstein
              No, I am ready to fully comply with the agreement signed by both parties. I am obliged to either pump 40 billion cubic meters, OR pay 2 billion. That is, for Russia it is absolutely identical. And let the problems of Ukraine bother its president, cabinet, Verkhovna Zrada ... to annoy Ukraine more. than to annoy ALL previous presidents and the people themselves, led to demagoguery and Russophobia, is impossible. About sanctions. They have already been nailed so many that there is no account. But for some reason they are not striking at Russia, but at the oppressors.
              The Ukrainian GTS has not been serviced for 31 years. There is an immeasurable sidebar. Theft is at every step.

              This is not identical, since these cubes will have to be sent to the customer in a different way and there they will pay for transit. As for the theft, the gas is monitored at the entrance and exit.
        3. valentin light
          valentin light 14 October 2021 09: 53
          0
          I understand you.
          Yes, this is reasonable - it is necessary to ruin Ukraine economically so that there will be no war later.
          But it is not the supply of gas that will have an immediate impact on the business reputation of Russia - although Nord Stream 2 has been built and even technical injection has begun, it does not work yet.
          Then, one of the conditions of the West of Russia was and is, that Russia will not stop pumping through Ukraine, otherwise they will have to feed Ukraine themselves or forget about it.
          Ideally, you MUST stop transit through Ukraine in order not to create an enemy with your own money
      2. boris epstein
        boris epstein 13 October 2021 09: 38
        -1
        I completely agree with you.
  24. sabakina
    sabakina 12 October 2021 16: 43
    +6
    Ukraine does not intend to lose two billion "legal" dollars received annually for gas transit.
    Can anyone poke my nose into the law, according to which Russia is obliged to drive gas through the territory of the country?
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 12 October 2021 16: 53
      +2
      Quote: sabakina
      Ukraine does not intend to lose two billion "legal" dollars received annually for gas transit.
      Can anyone poke my nose into the law, according to which Russia is obliged to drive gas through the territory of the country?


      There was some sort of agreement between former German Chancellor Merkel and US President Biden.
      But what has to do with Russia, Ukraine and Gazprom is not clear.

      Apparently the clown was bred)
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    3. uav80
      uav80 14 October 2021 13: 09
      0
      Under the terms of the contract, Gazprom must pump at least 225 billion cubic meters through Ukraine. meters of gas in 2020-2024, of which 65 billion cubic meters. m in 2020 and 40 billion cubic meters each. m annually in the next four years, but these are minimal volumes, if transit decreases, then Gazprom is obliged to pay a forfeit ...

      in short, you can pump more less no ...
  25. svoit
    svoit 12 October 2021 16: 55
    +3
    Of course, I understand, money does not smell, but taking aggressive money ... somehow not very ...
  26. Xnumx vis
    Xnumx vis 12 October 2021 17: 03
    0
    -Uti turbidity, Aren't khukhry flies? Chyavka ne tresne at Pan Vovan Zelenukhin? Maybe he still has the keys to the apartment where the money is? Let's iron the laces.
  27. 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 12 October 2021 17: 11
    +1
    The main thing is not to give the clown scuba gear, because the pipe will dive to gnaw and be killed.
    And to be honest, it’s not ice that Russia is driving gas at Baku 270 per m3 to Europe and 171 to China, at the current prices.
    I hope SP-2 will make it possible to conclude long-term contracts at more favorable prices for the people of Russia.
  28. Sergey Novitsky
    Sergey Novitsky 12 October 2021 17: 12
    +2
    Clown, what else to say ...
  29. bar
    bar 12 October 2021 17: 21
    +1
    Zelensky: Ukraine does not intend to lose "legitimate billions" for the transit of Russian gas

    And someone asks him about intentions? laughing
  30. demo
    demo 12 October 2021 17: 25
    +1
    Only I got the feeling that we are in the theater of the absurd, where the main characters are the patients of a psychiatric hospital released on the weekend (for calm behavior)?
  31. Evgeny Ivanov_5
    Evgeny Ivanov_5 12 October 2021 17: 32
    0
    Was a comedian, a comedian and stayed
  32. Viktor Sergeev
    Viktor Sergeev 12 October 2021 18: 00
    +1
    Have you brought your own drug or planted a local one? It kicked hard.
  33. Tarasios
    Tarasios 12 October 2021 18: 05
    +1
    strange whose cow would moan. When Ukraine declared "illegal" the so-called "Yanukovych loan" in the amount of 3 billion dollars - this means that it is normal and legal? Despite the observance of all legal procedures when applying for a loan at the international level. But the natural drain of the Ukrainian banal wishes, which crash against the hotly anticipated "market relations" - this is already "illegal". And the nuance that, for example, Kiev spreads rot on Donbass for refusing to recognize a coup d'etat as a "revolution of dignity" - is it legal? But Kiev does not care about such "trifles", it turns out.
  34. zenion
    zenion 12 October 2021 18: 06
    +1
    It is possible that the pipe will come in handy for Ukraine to pump Ukrainian feces to the western fields.
  35. Ros 56
    Ros 56 12 October 2021 18: 27
    +1
    I don’t understand Putin’s policy regarding these hohlopapuas, what is he trying to achieve? Thinks he will be thanked? Quite the opposite, or does he want to be holier than the Pope? Nobody will appreciate it. Why is he doing this, especially by offering a reduced price, and even at the expense of Russia's shortfall in income?
  36. MTZ 80
    MTZ 80 12 October 2021 18: 36
    -6
    In general, the termination of transit may also affect the Russian and European GTS. Russia will never agree to this
  37. iouris
    iouris 12 October 2021 19: 42
    +1
    RF is a raw material colony of Ukraine.
  38. Ivanushka Ivanov
    Ivanushka Ivanov 12 October 2021 21: 59
    -4
    Americans are playing a complex, multi-level game aimed at controlling the entire world. At some level, they are even friendly with "Russia" in the person of the president and the oligarchs. For example, it is obvious that the gas crisis was staged by the striped ones through their officials in the EU. Obviously, Russia, no matter what they say, is a fucking plus. The further, the more clearly I understand that Crimea did not come to us so easily. Obviously, after the collapse of Russia (which, whatever one may say, they are counting on) they will not give such a tidbit to anyone, even if Ukraine, as a country, continues to exist.
    Therefore, Ukraine should not expect any help from the "new elder brother". It is a pity, but the common people will have to bear all the hardships of the gas crisis. It is highly likely that Ukraine will not survive this winter. What can come of this? Anything, there are dozens of options for amers.
    But I would not advise Russian oligarchs to relax too much - striped sharpers will throw them one fig. In 24, there will be a reform of the main currencies: the dollar, euro, pounds and francs - with whatever sauce you want. And I would not advise the oligarchy to rely on my new bills (like the Chinese, offshore companies, simply, “because I don’t like you”). Somewhere in the years 26-27, the Americans decided on nuclear aggression against Russia, which was already greatly weakened by that time.
  39. Ardalen
    Ardalen 13 October 2021 07: 12
    0
    Zelensky does not intend ... tongue
  40. Simon
    Simon 13 October 2021 08: 42
    0
    Quote: tihonmarine
    Quote: Alien From
    Our mushroom season is over. They're in full swing. Not surprising..

    It's hot there, and from the heat mushrooms are "cocky", stronger than cocaine.

    Especially grebes and fly agarics with a swastika grow in Ukraine! wink
  41. valentin light
    valentin light 13 October 2021 09: 41
    0
    I consider it necessary to repeat-
    Under the agreement, Russia must pump 2021 billion cubic meters of gas a year in 2024-40.

    For 9 months of 2021, about 33 (32.666) billion cubic meters have already been pumped.

    Russia is fulfilling the treaty, and what is over the limit should not worry either Zelensky or the Ukrainians allegedly "who have been at war with a superpower for 7 years."

    This is strictly a matter for Russia.
  42. lopvlad
    lopvlad 13 October 2021 09: 50
    +1
    Ukraine does not intend to lose two billion "legal" dollars received annually for gas transit. This was stated by the President of Ukraine Volodymyr Zelensky.


    Ukrainian GTS was built during the existence of the Ukrainian SSR and has nothing to do with modern Bandera Ukraine leading its history from the UPR.
    Ukraine did nothing to preserve the GTS and ensure its attractiveness for gas suppliers. Now the GTS of Ukraine is a completely worn-out "pipe" with a longer gas delivery route to Europe than via the Nord Stream.
  43. alexey alexeyev_2
    alexey alexeyev_2 13 October 2021 12: 01
    +1
    Caring what. About Europe his soul itching .. And yavropa put on you. Big and thick. The same as you pounded on the piano. On the same piano, she will play you a funeral march. The same. laughing
  44. Alexander Voilokov
    Alexander Voilokov 13 October 2021 12: 36
    +1
    "Ukraine stands for the energy security of Europe." Poor Europe - the marginals are thinking about it. Instead of building a country, Ukrainians scatter around the world to wash toilets and look closely to squeeze from their neighbors.
  45. Siegfried
    Siegfried 13 October 2021 12: 41
    +1
    Ursula and her friends came to Zelenskiy knowing for sure that the work on certification of SP2 in Germany has long been completed, everyone is sitting there and every day thinking, "Can we announce today? - Nine, it's too early! Too fast. First you need to go to this *** **** **** ****** ****, find out what he's planning. " So they came to him, and he told them "Block SP2, we will not let ourselves be thrown by 2 billion rubles! We will tear everyone for free money!" in another office, completely different people think "It's time to end this **** ******* ****. Already it becomes completely unpredictable - I agree, only it is better to do it so that your own ends"
  46. Basarev
    Basarev 13 October 2021 14: 15
    +1
    All this trouble for a measly two billion? Does Zelensky not understand that these are pennies? Just one small oligarch.
  47. xomaNN
    xomaNN 13 October 2021 14: 55
    0
    ... Kiev intends to preserve the transit of Russian gas through the Ukrainian territory, since it does not want to lose "legitimate income" in the amount of $ 2 billion.


    just the same Odessa-Jewish approach tongue
  48. Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 13 October 2021 15: 14
    -1
    Even Euronews, covering these gatherings, sadly noted that the EU did not give Ukraine any guarantees, but consoled Ze by imposing some kind of sanctions against someone. Briefly speaking,
    Ostap took him aside, invited him to brace himself, asked which regiment he served in, and promised assistance abroad.
    (C)
  49. vadi64
    vadi64 13 October 2021 15: 34
    0
    "Where am I going to eat?"
    Sharikov, "Heart of a Dog"
  50. Sergei Khukharev
    Sergei Khukharev 13 October 2021 22: 53
    +1
    They would also give up the green money that flows into their pockets. I feel sorry for the inhabitants of Ukraine who humbly acknowledge the power of outright impudent people and deceivers. But in history there has already been an example of the zombie people of Germany who have paid with millions of lives and their independence that still exists.