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Domestic inventors: a lost incentive for the development of the state

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What associations do you have with a Russian inventor?

Idea generator - 38 (20.43%)
20.43%
Smart and educated person - 51 (27.42%)
27.42%
"Engine of progress" - 19 (10.22%)
10.22%
"Nutty Professor" - 14 (7.53%)
7.53%
Poor and unselfish - 64 (34.41%)
34.41%

Source: naucaitechnika.ru


New landmarks


How is an inventor perceived in modern Russia?

The latest sociological research on this issue is not easy to find, so let's turn to statistics from ten years ago.

In 2011, the All-Russian Public Opinion Research Center (VTsIOM) surveyed 1 respondents in order to find out the status of the inventor in society. It turned out that the people's Kulibins are treated with respect and generally positively. But regarding the material wealth of inventors, most of the respondents were skeptical - in the opinion of society, only teachers and military men earned less money ten years ago. It's amazing how public opinion about the earnings of military personnel has changed - now the material status of people in uniform is much higher. But the inventors and innovators, apparently, remained at the bottom of the list.

In 2011, VTsIOM also tracked the social status of the Kulibins. It turned out that idea generators are again at the very end of the list, below - only teachers, and at a similar level - law enforcement officers.

Further analysis of the research results is even more depressing.

The respondents with higher education assess the prospects of inventors to get rich in Russia as minimal. Citizens who are potentially able to benefit their country with technical and scientific innovations do not see any prospect in this. By the way, the lower the education level of the respondents, the less skeptical they were about the income level of successful inventors.

Until now, VTsIOM has not repeated such studies, obviously, even the topic itself is not interesting to sociologists. But even without the latest research, it is clear that the social and material status of an inventor and rationalizer in Russia has changed, if anything, for the worse. And this, of course, is a mirror of the current attitude towards the "engines of progress".

The prestige of inventors in Russia is gradually and steadily declining.

This is often due to ignorance. The townsfolk do not understand the importance of introducing new inventions, do not believe in "progress with their own hands" and do not know about the achievements of Russian science.

Actually, Sputnik V is not trusted largely because of the stereotype that we can only be ahead in rockets and ballet. Despite the fact that in 2021, the Kremlin suddenly remembered about science and technology, there are no significant advances in this regard. The thematic site godnauki.rf is visited monthly by no more than 130–190 thousand Russians, and the average viewing time does not exceed ... 12 seconds.

The society has developed an opinion about the existence of successful inventors exclusively abroad. Indicative in this regard is the publication "An invention - an accident or a hard work?" agency "RIA News"Dated June 30, 2012. By the way, the text was timed to coincide with the Day of the Inventor and Innovator, celebrated on the last Saturday of June.

The authors did a great job and told readers about such great innovators as Edward Benedictus, Thomas Sullivan, George Crum, Alexander Fleming, Louis Pasteur, Jean-Joseph Merlin and Fred Bohr. This is not a complete list of imported geniuses, which it was decided to tell about on the Inventor's Day.

However, in fairness, the authors still talked about one domestic inventor - Peter I. He, it turns out, not only cut a window to Europe, but also invented a prototype of skates. Few people know about the contribution to world progress made by domestic engineers and inventors Kotelnikov, Shukhov, Yuryev, Polzunov, Lodygin, Aleksandrovsky, Tsvet and many others.

The saddest thing is that this primarily concerns the younger generation. Children are not just not interested in история domestic science, it is not yet taught to them really anywhere.

How will a person grow up who has learned from school that everything around him is created by the hands of foreign geniuses?

Soviet experience


There is no desire to continue the story with the worn-out thesis: "And it was better before." But now there is nowhere without it - in the Soviet Union, special attention was paid to invention. Of course, the range of interests was very specific, but, in contrast to modern times, it was at least present.

First of all, this was then taken care of at the state level. The State Committee for Inventions and Discoveries under the Council of Ministers of the USSR, the All-Union Scientific Research Institute of State Patent Examination, the Central Scientific Research Institute of Patent Information and Technical and Economic Research, and the All-Union Society of Inventors and Innovators ( VOIR).

The sign "Inventor of the USSR" and the title "Honored Inventor of the USSR" were established. In modern Russia, a similar title was abolished altogether by then-President Medvedev in 2010, but Putin returned it a couple of years later.

The title "Honored Inventor of the Russian Federation" at various times was received by 520 people. If you are interested, look how vanishingly tiny it is, compared to the number of those awarded with the title "Honored Worker of the Oil and Gas Industry of the Russian Federation."

But back to the Soviet Union, in which inventors had a special status.

On a mandatory basis, in each regional center, the station "Young Technician" had to work, and at each enterprise - an Bureau for Inventions and Innovation.

Patent offices tracked the premature publication of important technical solutions and the timely patenting of innovations. Of course, in a planned economy, such a system could not fully reveal itself, but it made a significant contribution to Soviet industry.

From the 50s of the last century to the mid-80s, the Soviet Union was the world leader in the number of inventions created and registered by the state.

For example, in the mid-70s, every fourth application in the world for an invention came from the USSR. The Americans could boast only 14,6%, the Japanese are slightly better - 31%. By the end of the 90s, the share of Russian inventions fell to 2,6%, and only in Japan rose to 45%. Of course, not everything invented reached the consumer, but the very fact of such close attention of the Soviet government is worth a lot.

Now, in a market economy, in Russia invention is in complete stagnation.

It is much easier for manufacturers to buy a ready-made solution abroad than to stimulate their own engineers. The sanctions policy of the West was supposed to speed up invention, but no - at best, we create analogs, at worst, we leave the market altogether. Meanwhile, ideas that have turned into ready-made technologies, equipment and products currently provide developed countries with up to 85% of GDP.

The difficult situation with the “brains of inventors” threatens Russia with strategic consequences.

Instead of fashionable areas of startups, technological entrepreneurship and innovation management, an entire industry is now required to develop, capable of giving impetus to the country's economy. And one cannot do without a clearly defined protection policy of the state in this area. Unfortunately, the specific market economy that has developed in Russia does not at all favor inventors and rationalizers.
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  1. Aurel
    Aurel 13 October 2021 05: 36
    +8
    Now it is not necessary, ingenuity is appreciated only in the intoxication of the people. By the way, in Soviet times, the TV program "You Can Do It" was very popular, which promoted inventions.
    1. Stas157
      Stas157 13 October 2021 06: 24
      +12
      Tell me, why the heck of a dictatorship, inventors and scientific and technological progress? A dictatorship needs bayonets. And we have a large army. But gendarmes with policemen much more!

      All the best - to them, the guardians, if you do not consider themselves loved ones (the authorities and the oligarchs).
      The rest (inventors and others like them) on the residual principle - a little more than nothing. Rejoice and this while it is.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 13 October 2021 06: 35
        -4
        Well, why are you driving so cool ... smile
        GDP has already said that the low level of incomes of citizens is a threat to the state ... and it seems like 45 trillion rubles are planned to be invested in solving this problem ... what it is unclear how all this will be implemented in life, given the brutal and insatiable appetite of our capitalists to rip off the people.
        1. Svarog
          Svarog 13 October 2021 06: 51
          +7
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          GDP already said

          And now let's remember how much our fabulous said ... and what of this was accomplished. When Putin says something, everything happens exactly the opposite .. did not notice?
          1. Lech from Android.
            Lech from Android. 13 October 2021 06: 59
            -2
            Of course he noticed ... he is a big specialist in information warfare ... all the others are not suitable for him. smile
            It always amazes me how skillfully he turns the arrows to anyone, just not to himself ... you never think of him ... this is worth learning ... this is a separate topic ... I think it is dangerous to touch on it ... Platoshkin is an example of this.
            1. Vladimir Mashkov
              Vladimir Mashkov 14 October 2021 19: 42
              0
              Eugene's remarkably accurate article! The situation with inventions now, I think, is awful.
              Once upon a time I made rationalization proposals, regularly read technical magazines, including "Inventor and Rationalizer". But then life spun, spun, there was no time for that.
        2. for
          for 13 October 2021 10: 14
          +6
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          45 trillion rubles are planned to be invested in solving this problem.

          He will invest in handouts (carrots), but decent salaries and pensions are needed. Yes, and the rise in prices is ahead of the amount and time (they rise even with rumors about handouts).
        3. paul3390
          paul3390 14 October 2021 11: 34
          0
          Or maybe the main threat to the state is the GDP itself and its capitalism? Is the poverty of the people already a consequence?

          As for trillions, how many empty promises have there been in 20 years? And - what? Trusting Putin is not respecting yourself. With his word, he speaks extremely freely ..
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 12
            +1
            Have you come from Turkey long ago? And what kind of car do you have, are you our beggar? You don't drive a Grant anymore, go, give a Toyota, or a BMW.

            How many people do not feed, but they are always dissatisfied.
      2. your1970
        your1970 13 October 2021 07: 45
        +4
        Quote: Stas157
        All the best - to them, the guardians, if you do not consider themselves loved ones (the authorities and the oligarchs).
        The rest (inventors and others like them) on the residual principle - a little more than nothing. Rejoice and this while it is.

        There was once a familiar inventor ...
        I pasted testimonials on the wall instead of wallpaper. On the 3x4 wall there were 2 ( two!!!!!!!) Layer 3 has already started ...
        He was able to implement only 3 - in 40 years ... The rest of his ideas were not needed for nothing in the USSR ...
        The irrepressible man was ...
        1. ivan2022
          ivan2022 13 October 2021 10: 38
          +4
          Quote: your1970
          There was once a familiar inventor ... no one needed his ideas for nothing in the USSR

          Uh-huh ... uh-huh .. and now they are in great need, but the inventor is dead .....
          There was once an inventor in RI, Pyotr Frese, created a company about the production of cars that cost one and a half times cheaper than Benz, created an electric car. I also had a lot of evidence.
          But for some reason this did not arouse interest among Russian industrialists!

          I was forced to sell the company to the Russo-Balta auto department. Which in its entire history has built less than 2000 cars. And Henry Ford, also an inventor, sold 200 cars before WWI!
          So you are in vain turned (to the level of the clinic) on "uselessness in the USSR" What is the "state-forming", so is the state. Under all authorities and laws.
          1. EvilLion
            EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 13
            +1
            Interestingly, electric vehicles remained niche for the next 100 years. Probably people understood something, unlike the inventor.
      3. Prisoner
        Prisoner 13 October 2021 15: 56
        +1
        The dictatorship of the proletariat needed it. winked
      4. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 16
        0
        And indeed, as a world in which nothing but a dictatorship has never reached the missiles and computers, there is no way to sit with a club and dictate conditions over the head. Probably because people are extremely inventive in weapons of war, and all this is quickly applied.
    2. Prisoner
      Prisoner 13 October 2021 15: 54
      0
      In Soviet times, there were also magazines "Young Technician", "Modelist-Constructor", etc. hi
  2. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 13 October 2021 05: 37
    +2
    I agree with Eugene ... although the names of Russian programmers who have successfully implemented their ideas are heard ... but there are very few of them ... an attempt to realize themselves abroad also ends sadly ... in the world of the jungle, to realize your idea or invention, you need a lot of money and a good sponsor ...
    In Russia, lonely inventors as an endangered species of mammoths smile... will crush corporate competitors in a moment.
    I look on YouTube what kind of home-made people come up with ... impressive ... the state doesn't give a damn about them ... the Chinese have their own consumer goods ... so the dead end for our inventors is obvious ... we arrived at the end.
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 13 October 2021 07: 18
      +4
      An incomprehensible poll, after all, what kind of inventor was meant by the Soviet or Russian?
      1. your1970
        your1970 13 October 2021 07: 48
        +3
        Quote: Gardamir
        An incomprehensible poll, after all, what kind of inventor was meant by the Soviet or Russian?

        Naturally rossiyskiy.Kakoy to jesters soviet- if the USSR has not existed for 20 years?
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 13 October 2021 14: 27
          +1
          if the USSR has not existed for 20 years?
          For more than 20 years, when the Union collapsed ..., in the last century ... somehow already !?
          1. your1970
            your1970 13 October 2021 15: 34
            0
            Quote: Intruder
            if the USSR has not existed for 20 years?
            For more than 20 years, when the Union collapsed ..., in the last century ... somehow already !?

            The poll in the article is mentioned 2011 year
            Now, naturally, another 10 years have passed
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 13 October 2021 05: 55
    +7
    Why invent? We will buy abroad. Inventing is not profitable. We have built a plant, equipped it with imports. All maintenance of the equipment is carried out by those who built and equipped. He also improves it. And for this he gets money.
    In modern Russia, a similar title was abolished altogether by then-President Medvedev in 2010, but Putin returned it a couple of years later.
    Smiled. To be honest, the title was abolished altogether under the Medvedev-Putin tandem, and under the Putin-Medvedev tandem, restored. laughing
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 13 October 2021 06: 06
      +9
      Yes ... why do we need our inventors ... From a business point of view, if they are unprofitable, let's take foreign ones ... the same business logic can be extended to any work of a Russian and even to himself ... which is more expensive than a Chinese one ...
      smile then why does business need a Russian and the population of Russia in general? ... can replace him with a Chinese, an Uzbek, a Tajik ... it will be cheaper for a capitalist.
      Leaving one territory with resources and importing cheap labor ... this is exactly what the Chubais in the Kremlin government dream of giving land to Uzbeks ... business is nothing personal.
      This is a dead end for Russia ... a path into the abyss of nothingness ... this must be fought.
      1. parusnik
        parusnik 13 October 2021 06: 10
        +3
        This is a dead end for Russia ... a path into the abyss of nothingness ... this must be fought.
        smile
    2. Svarog
      Svarog 13 October 2021 06: 53
      +6
      Quote: parusnik
      Smiled. To be honest, the title was abolished altogether under the Medvedev-Putin tandem, and under the Putin-Medvedev tandem, restored.

      Haha ... laughed in good laughing vote
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 13 October 2021 14: 31
      +2
      Inventing is not profitable. They built a plant, equipped it with imports. All maintenance of the equipment is carried out by those who built and equipped. He also improves it. And for this he gets money.
      True ..., well, you bought this "plant" and even found and trained the staff, and then, any sanctions are coming, bang and "the nut of the wrong foreign thread", then again you need to start import-substituting searches for "nuts" and production costs, money goes down the drain, the staff is looking for another place !? This is if about a "sick" ... and not very far-sighted, in the history of one "former", but "very promising" country !!!
    4. EvilLion
      EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 17
      0
      Have you been at the checkpoint, you talker about inventions?
  4. nickolai.maliugin
    nickolai.maliugin 13 October 2021 06: 04
    +5
    In our time, too, there are many inventions. But in order to start development, you need funding for the project. Even in modern times, a similar transfer appeared. And after the transfer, one told how it is done in America. Regardless of whether it is a stupid or clever invention, the person who sent him receives ten dollars. If the invention is interested, the inventor is offered, either more money now, or he participates in the development of his brainchild, and if everything works out, he will receive the money later. So it is or not, I do not presume to judge. Many of us travel to America, but they bring nothing useful.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 13 October 2021 07: 33
      +4
      After the show, one told how it is done in America. Regardless of whether the invention is stupid or clever, the person who sent it receives ten dollars. If the invention is interested, the inventor is offered, either more money now, or he participates in the development of his brainchild, and if everything works out, he will receive the money later. So it is or not, I do not presume to judge. Many of us travel to America, but they bring nothing useful.

      I don’t know how it is now, but earlier in the United States there was a system of two envelopes. There are many firms that innovate. Two identical letters are written with a description of the offer in any form, one is sent by registered mail to the address of the company, the other to its own address. The firm is considering, if sensible, then looking for investors, etc., and a letter to your address is a guarantee for the court, just in case, on the issue of authorship.
      1. Yura
        Yura 13 October 2021 12: 57
        +2
        Quote: Konnick
        I don’t know how it is now, but earlier in the United States there was a system of two envelopes. There are many firms that innovate. Two identical letters are written with a description of the offer in any form, one is sent by registered mail to the address of the company, the other to its own address. The firm is considering, if sensible, then looking for investors, etc., and a letter to your address is a guarantee for the court, just in case, on the issue of authorship.

        It was not in the USA, it was in our country, in the USSR too, back in the seventies I did it myself.
    2. EvilLion
      EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 20
      0
      Will you steam for $ 10?
      There is an American proverb that is very correct: "The one who invented - the one who made it - 10, who sold 100". There are a lot of "ingenious" ideas and misunderstood offenders-inventors, but not all ideas make sense.
  5. samarin1969
    samarin1969 13 October 2021 06: 08
    +12
    In Russia, every father of the family - "Kulibin" ... was. Now the review is like an obituary.
    Teaching science at school has come down to an expensive flash mob. The costs of "growth points", "3D planetariums", school "academies", etc. have serious figures. But with zero efficiency - only for photo and video reports.
    Without serious theoretical training in the XNUMXst century, no all-conquering love of "designer Mosin" will achieve its goals. Reasonable children should be separated in high-tech schools from moral and mental invalids. This is the practice in the advanced countries of Asia and the Golden Billion. Formally, all teachers, students, lecturers have the duty to engage in "scientific activities." Her price is a trash can! A senseless imitation! You cannot teach physics and chemistry at a sufficient level "the whole collective farm"! The state should pay money directly for a high level of knowledge in natural sciences.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 13 October 2021 14: 44
      +4
      In Russia, every father of the family - "Kulibin" ... was
      In the USSR, rather wink , if two sons and a father, with hands and fatherly "need ... sons", built themselves in a field, on a hillside (at that time they gave the worst land for summer cottages - gardening partnerships) and a cottage and a house, for a couple / three years ... of titanic work and peasant ingenuity, and this is with a deficit of everything and everyone, I just judge by my parents and childhood / youth !!! And someone didn’t care that the first (the oldest was 19), and the second (8 years old) was, they went to the family construction site every summer, not to the resorts - but to the dacha, in the heat and in the rain / sleet, and they collected the sea buckthorn berry at the beginning or in the middle of November, when the snow was already lying under the trees in Siberia, here you stand in the cold, with frozen fingers in sea buckthorn juice, you will immediately learn a lot of interesting things and about the necessary vitamins for the growing body of a child and a young man, about the price of a young life, without vitamin deficiency until next summer ... !!!
      1. EvilLion
        EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 21
        +1
        And what's the point of this dacha? Sea buckthorn?
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 19 October 2021 10: 22
          0
          Not only, raspberries / cherries / plums / apple trees .., beds with garlic / onions / carrots and beets, plus fresh air and occupational therapy from childhood, you can stir up a barbecue in a narrow family circle, next to a house and a small bathhouse, which in 80- The 90s was considered a nice bonus ... by the way!
  6. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 13 October 2021 06: 59
    +9
    In the early 80s, filing rationalizations was a great addition. The rationalization proposal without economic effect brought the applicant 10 rubles. They could be submitted as much as the enterprise fund allowed to pay for rationalization proposals. And for a rationalization proposal with an economic effect, which was calculated according to a special formula, one could get quite a decent reward. This already came from some other means. I don’t remember exactly.
    I dabbled in it myself. Ratsukh had a whole box. And in 84, a patent was issued. As usual in those days, I had to write the chief as a co-author. But, the game was worth the candle. 5000 rubles for two, in those days, were still very big money.
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 13 October 2021 07: 12
      +1
      And what about this in Israel? hi
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 13 October 2021 07: 27
        +9
        Quote: Lech from Android.
        And what about this in Israel? hi

        With patents like any other normal country. There is a patent office, submit your application, pay a small fee and go ahead.
        In production, innovators are respected and encouraged. They move up the corporate ladder faster, they are consulted by the management. In short, they are in good standing. Of course, I cannot say for all enterprises. But where he worked and visited, everything was exactly the same.
    2. Konnick
      Konnick 13 October 2021 07: 24
      +6
      As usual in those days, I had to write the chief as a co-author. But, the game was worth the candle. 5000 rubles for two, in those days, were still very big money.

      How can we do without it? When I, a young engineer, had creative breakthroughs, the head of the department or the chief engineer always sat on my tail. But I didn’t complain, they thought the savings were better, and I didn’t want to get involved in the calculations. And so he had 300-500 rubles (80s) at least a year with ratsuh.
      In our country, inventions and copyright are now at the level, well, just below the plinth. Fraud and deception reigns supreme in this area. There are ideas, but as you think about what you will need to do, then any desire to draw up is eliminated. Even at work they stopped patenting new products, the game is not worth the candle.
      1. Marine engineer
        Marine engineer 13 October 2021 08: 17
        +7
        "..... the head of the department or the chief engineer always sat on the tail."

        Until recently, our deputy was “indulging” in this. Chief Engineer. I refused to include him in co-authors, could not overcome the feeling of disgust. He "crap" as best he could.
        1. Konnick
          Konnick 13 October 2021 09: 11
          0
          feeling of disgust

          Yes, at first ...
          And then ... health is more expensive, especially psychological. I just wonder all the time what kind of staff are leading us ...
          And the silent ones became the chiefs, because silence is golden ...

          Yesterday there was a meeting, managers were drawing some diagrams, I was asked who else should be hired to do this faster?
          I answered classically, if you think that if one woman is carrying a child for 9 months, then three women in 3 months can do it, then accept at least anyone.
          1. Marine engineer
            Marine engineer 13 October 2021 10: 55
            +1
            "..Health is more expensive, especially psychological."

            I could not allow my subordinates to doubt me, although the pressure was strong.
            Thanks to these co-author leaders, innovation is in our fold.
            And here's another touch, at our enterprise, "fake" innovators-co-authors like to hang diplomas and certificates on the walls of their offices as confirmation of "their" achievements, real inventors do not suffer from this.
          2. gridasov
            gridasov 13 October 2021 20: 38
            +1
            That's for sure! A competent inventor thinks not only about his own creation, but also about the consequences of entering into the process itself associated with it.
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 13 October 2021 14: 50
        +3
        And so he had 300-500 rubles (80s) at least a year with ratsuh.
        Well .., for the latter, I got crazy money (100 rubles) at my own (in the past) enterprise, dropped this business and went hunting ... air in a friendly group, and then sell to friends (even a horn-to realize could), than strain with innovation in the workplace!
    3. kin
      kin 13 October 2021 08: 32
      +5
      My father is an inventor and innovator. Has more than 300 inventions and rationalization proposals. Yamobur on a wheeled tractor Belarus is his invention. He collected it himself, he was given 300 rubles for the invention.
      1. Konnick
        Konnick 13 October 2021 09: 14
        +2
        Yamobur on a wheeled tractor Belarus is his invention.

        And what is the novelty and the invention formula?
        And before the tractors were not hung with holes?
        1. kin
          kin 13 October 2021 09: 51
          +3
          In the 60s, no.
  7. Eug
    Eug 13 October 2021 07: 28
    +4
    As for me, the main problem is the rights to the invention. It is easier to select them easily, selecting accordingly the material interest. Oddly enough, in the USSR it was much better with this. At the same time, a lot of inventions were kept "in the table", I encountered this in production practice. Our friend came up with an adaptation that reduces the required discharge for a technological operation and at the same time increases productivity. When he came with this to the chief technologist, he (in his words) opened a large iron cabinet, on the shelves of which there were practically the same adaptations, and many others. It was said - a mobilization resource ...
    1. ycuce234-san
      ycuce234-san 13 October 2021 14: 04
      0
      The sign "Inventor of the USSR" and the title "Honored Inventor of the USSR" were established.


      In fact, it is easy to regulate the issue with rights and incomes through tax legislation. For newly introduced inventions, a business will be able to receive a time-limited tax benefit, provided that it shares the profit - money from the application of the invention with the author of the inventions who have copyrights and who granted non-exclusive rights to use them. It makes no sense then to take away the rights - the accounting of money goes only according to copyright and not property, and this benefit will not be received by a legal entity or business (they do not have copyrights that are inalienable). The business will be primarily interested in tax optimization through inventions, and the author will be interested in selling his ideas to as many different businesses as possible: therefore, the criterion for a non-exclusive license for use should be mandatory.
      The most important thing is that it will cost the state practically nothing, in fact. And it will not even be very difficult to do this - a package of amendments to tax legislation needs to be prepared.
  8. Undecim
    Undecim 13 October 2021 07: 47
    +8
    The author missed the main question, without which no invention is possible in principle, regardless of any efforts.
    In 1929, the first issue of the journal "Inventor" was published in the USSR, which opened with an article by Albert Einstein "Weights instead of units", written by him at the request of the editorial board. It begins with the following lines:
    I consider an inventor to be a person who has found a new combination of already known equipment for the most economical satisfaction of human needs. The ability for free, constructive and combinational thought, as well as passion and passion in this matter, I consider innate. One cannot invent without knowledge, just as one cannot compose poetry without knowing the language.
    1. gridasov
      gridasov 13 October 2021 09: 23
      +1
      Absolutely right! New algorithms for constructing the stages of the process and generate new solutions. I have invented a mover, which is difficult to explain to scientists only because there are already few people who have systemic knowledge and at the same time have the flexibility of the mind.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 13 October 2021 11: 15
        +5
        Gridasov, so why do you need these scientists with their brains ossified in outdated theories? Open a startup and build your engine. You will go down in history with the "Gridasov engine".
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 13 October 2021 11: 32
          +2
          It looks amazing, but I don’t want to! It's like in a Chinese parable that everyone who clutched at life died, and those who wanted to die were left to live. And then people think that they are in charge and everything depends on them. But alas!
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 13 October 2021 14: 53
        +1
        I invented the propulsion
        a supportless inercoid ... or of the second kind !? recourse
        1. gridasov
          gridasov 13 October 2021 15: 18
          +1
          I am not a storyteller. This is the simplest basic monoblock device that can be installed in place of a propeller, propeller, or any existing propulsion device. But, the efficiency of its work is much higher. More precisely, the process is exactly the opposite of what happens on the propeller blades. The device is scalable.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 13 October 2021 18: 08
            0
            I do not belong to storytellers
            Hmm .., but nature may think differently, with its virtual particles (resonances, etc.) and electron-positron pairs, and you don't even need to invent anything !? lol
            1. gridasov
              gridasov 13 October 2021 18: 30
              +1
              Absolutely always, and everyone who undertakes to hook me allows themselves to pronounce phrases that I did not say at all. And I would not be responsible for nature. She'll figure it out herself somehow.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 13 October 2021 20: 03
                0
                all who take me to hook allow themselves
                You were wrong, really ... and in my thoughts it was not to cling to you, here I put pluses to you all the time, by the way .., you are the only one here - I noticed this a couple of years ago, but gave nature, just as a real example ... That everything is harmonious with her, but with a person not very much, and through one place known to all! hi
                1. gridasov
                  gridasov 13 October 2021 20: 22
                  +1
                  I accept. Then you will excuse me too. I really appreciate in people flexibility and loyalty to any opinion. Moreover, he is very difficult in his reasoning. It doesn't get any easier.
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 13 October 2021 20: 29
                    0
                    I accept. Then you will excuse me too
                    No problem! drinks
                    Moreover, he is very difficult in his reasoning. It doesn't get any easier.
                    Yes, here the majority, as I have understood since 2019, are neurotics (with a "group" of specific functional psychogenic reversible disorders that tend to have a protracted course lol ) or ..., I will not be bad about others .., otherwise they will again strain beyond measure, and then they will live and suffer with it! recourse
                    I really appreciate in people flexibility and loyalty to any opinion
                    Also, but sometimes: "... the truth is more expensive"! repeat
    2. chenia
      chenia 13 October 2021 09: 51
      +1
      Quote: Undecim
      The ability for free constructive and combinational thought, as well as passion and passion in this matter, I consider to be innate.


      This is right. But a system for identifying such people is needed. And then such individuals can only die from a creative inventive "itch" without revealing their capabilities. Or dissolve into small things.
      In Stalin's time, the responsibility of the relevant persons was. when considering new ideas. Then it was dangerous to miss a new idea - the status of a pest will immediately fly in with consequences. And therefore, these persons carefully checked (carried out an examination) of certain proposals). Moreover, there was a system of selection of creative people and their promotion. How many KB arose from just groups of enthusiasts (who were also supported).
      At the enterprises there were BRIZ (which made it possible to correctly draw up both the proposal and the application for an invention).

      Now there are firms for the preparation of such documents, but they are expensive. The inventor on his own is not able to correctly draw up the documents the first time (although there is all the information on the Internet).
      But the main thing is the materialization of ideas, and here it’s the rush.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 13 October 2021 11: 11
        +4
        But a system is needed to identify such people

        In my opinion, it does not matter at all to which category, to which social stratum the inventor belongs. It is only important to single out the real inventor from the crowd of fanatical illusionists and give the opportunity to realize exactly those ideas that are worth it.

        This is from the same article by Einstein.
        1. chenia
          chenia 13 October 2021 14: 27
          0
          Quote: Undecim
          It is only important to highlight the real inventor


          To highlight, it is necessary. so that the inventor had an easy opportunity to convey his idea. This is then the filter is triggered. And even then this is an intermediate option. The initial selection begins, if not from kindergarten, then from the "pioneer" age and beyond. And in the USSR this system was. From appropriate motivation, directed literature, appropriate structures for the development of creativity. The final ones (design bureaus, research institutes) still exist, but their content determines the beginning of the chain.
      2. El Barto
        El Barto 13 October 2021 14: 00
        +1
        There is nothing new in the system of searching, testing and implementing new ideas and inventions. It has existed for more than a hundred years. And this experience was quite successfully implemented in the USSR.

        However, this requires understanding, intelligence, will and courage. Here is a vivid example of how the work with inventions and scientific developments is carried out - the history of the DuPont company. Half of the words that we use for the names of various materials in all walks of life are former DuPont trademarks - cellophane, nylon, kevlar, freon ... and so on. Even the corn that Khrushchev is waving in the famous photo from Iowa, and then Dupont.

        And the understanding that the future is made by science and inventions is still present - in our time, most of the inventions and scientific developments of an applied nature are the result of the work not of scientific institutions, but of the RnD (Research and Development) departments of the largest corporations. Which, in addition to the work of scientists themselves, are engaged in the collection and verification of inventions and rationalization proposals.
        In general, these major companies are very similar in structure and principles of work to large Soviet NGOs (although, of course, on the contrary, the same DuPont served as an example for Soviet NGOs).
        They invest a lot of money in RnD, are not afraid to take risks with implementation, and by the way have a certain scientific romanticism.
        And yes. The system of material remuneration of employees for rationalization proposals is well developed.

        Our bourgeoisie is too stupid and greedy for this ("Why do you need a trader's mind when there is cunning and greed?" (C) M. Uspensky). These are not the heirs of the romantic era of capitalism, when it was still progressive, but already worms eating up its corpse before it has completely rotted away.

        Plus, you need to understand that the Russian Federation is the periphery of the capitalist world and scientific developments and inventive creativity are simply not needed here, they are naturally drawn to the countries of the center
      3. gridasov
        gridasov 13 October 2021 18: 35
        0
        There are inventions that can radically change the balance of world power and which are not patented. The mover is precisely a device for converting the energy of continuous media. This is a fundamental device that changes the entire architecture of not only the propeller, but all turbines. What I am talking about has not only a dual purpose, but also determines a huge number of research areas. People don't believe what they can't imagine.
  9. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2021 08: 11
    +3
    I wonder how things are with innovation and invention at the factories of "screwdriver assembly"?
    1. Boris55
      Boris55 13 October 2021 08: 18
      -3
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      I wonder how things are with innovation

      Inventor and innovator are not the same thing. An innovator is a person who reduces the safety margin of a product laid down by a designer to a minimum.
      1. Daniil Konovalenko
        Daniil Konovalenko 13 October 2021 08: 52
        +3
        Let me put the question differently, I wonder how things are going with inventions at factories of "screwdriver assembly"?
        1. Ua3qhp
          Ua3qhp 13 October 2021 09: 02
          +1
          Why not? Any technological process is imperfect.
      2. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 13 October 2021 16: 51
        +2
        An innovator is a person who reduces the safety margin of a product laid down by a designer to a minimum.
        and what, rationalization concerns only some equipment? Hmm .. but I thought all my life that rationalization is -
        Organization of some activities in the most appropriate, rational ways; improvement, improvement. Rationalization of production processes.
        ... At one time (mid-90s) I just rationalized the process of cleaning the holds on my steamer. They began to spend less time and effort on this work, the number of bark lifts by rented cranes decreased (and in Japan it is very expensive). Later, in another office, I wrote down a program to account for official and private radio exchange (or rather, the funds that the company had to transfer to the radio center for communication services). This greatly simplified the output of the trip report and reduced the number of errors and discrepancies to a minimum. Then I sent it out to all my colleagues in the company. And all the little things. Optimization of work processes is also innovation.
  10. Serg serg
    Serg serg 13 October 2021 08: 59
    0
    The author somehow right in the brightest colors and lofty images about inventions and patents in the USSR. Yes, there was the VOIR society, the Yuny Tekhnik station, and even the program "You Can Do It". Maybe more inventions were registered than in the USA, etc. Only bald horse-radish they harmed. That is why they chased among the people for everything immortal. Our bureaucratic apparatus knows its job then and now. Otherwise, we would be ahead of the rest of the planet. And so the Japanese for years have been buying our magazines "Radio", "Young Technician", "Technology of Youth", "Science and Life" and so on. They fished out sensible ideas from there and introduced them into industry and science. Here's an indicator of the application of inventions and rationalization proposals in the economy.
  11. Ua3qhp
    Ua3qhp 13 October 2021 09: 01
    +4
    The author confuses the actual invention and the registration of patents.
    Invention is a person's way of thinking and living. It is impossible not to invent if a person has such a mindset.
    Registration of patents is legal casuistry.
    Inventions made at work, on the topic of work, are the property of the company. Because the salary is paid for them.
  12. chenia
    chenia 13 October 2021 09: 15
    -4
    s sy chycha \ [b] [/ b] vorokaf hynzhav zi nido
    1. chenia
      chenia 13 October 2021 14: 34
      0
      Quote: chenia
      s sy chycha \ [b] [/ b] vorokaf hynzhav zi nido


      For some reason, the text is not reflected in the individual comment set window. hit randomly on the keys. And then the comment popped up and erase or change the time out. But sticking to someone else's turns out fine.
      But I earned some cons.
  13. gridasov
    gridasov 13 October 2021 09: 19
    +2
    Everyone needs inventors. Only undeveloped people do not understand that everything is changing and transforming, which means that new tasks and their solutions arise.
  14. riwas
    riwas 13 October 2021 09: 50
    +3
    In Soviet times, there was a plan for inventions. One application per quarter per department. It's a dreary business to fill out applications, I know from myself. And when an implementation (patent) is pecked, many co-authors immediately appear, starting with the boss. But there is a plus - I was sent to off-the-job courses to study TRIZ and ARIZ according to G.S. Altshuller. The company where I worked bought the "Inventive Machine", a program in which all the achievements of G. S. were implemented. Altshuller and the databases are entered. They unwittingly conducted an experiment: they offered "normal" people to solve inventive problems with the help of this program. The result is zero. Why? The reason is simple. Without "developed" engineering imaginative thinking, this does not work!
    True, G.S. Altshuller "insured himself" by saying once that his method was "a tool for thinking, not instead of thinking."
    1. chenia
      chenia 13 October 2021 09: 58
      0
      Quote: riwas
      And when an implementation (patent) is pecked, many co-authors immediately appear, starting with the boss.


      So it was possible to send documents directly. And with the introduction, it is different. Here, yes, if the idea is good you need to share, but a green street and help in all matters.
  15. Dmitry V.
    Dmitry V. 13 October 2021 14: 18
    +2
    In the USSR, the patent service was developed - I sat there for days.
    Now in this building of the mall - that says it all.

    One more point - I talked with the dean of the automotive faculty of one Ural university - said that the suspension of trucks (read military) cars with a minimum sprung weight was experimentally worked out - a new word in the automotive industry (all inventors think so).
    But the point is that they have been marking time for several years - they cannot advance further experiments - no one needs RUSSIA! Nobody wants to introduce it into production in the state.
    And they don't want to sell to the Chinese - because the Patriots (with a capital letter), in contrast to the small-sale bosses ...
  16. BAI
    BAI 13 October 2021 14: 36
    +1
    1.
    most of the respondents were skeptical about the material prosperity of inventors - in the opinion of society, only teachers and military men earned less money ten years ago.

    Strange message. In the USSR and the Russian Federation, an inventor and innovator is not a profession, but rather a hobby.

    2.
    From the 50s of the last century to the mid-80s, the Soviet Union was the world leader in the number of inventions created and registered by the state.

    It is not the number of inventions that is important, but the number of INTRODUCED inventions, and this is not the same thing.

    3.
    It is much easier for manufacturers to buy a ready-made solution abroad than to stimulate their own engineers.

    There has been research for a long time: if you develop something new for less than $ 30, it’s cheaper to do it yourself than to look for something ready.
    4. No one is interested (in the Russian Federation) to introduce something new (people will eat what they give, why bother? There is no competition.), And even more so - to pay royalties from the use of the invention to the author. Therefore, invention is the lot of amateurs or a forced measure, when the whole team (research institute, plant) is solving the problem of the country's defense.
    1. Ua3qhp
      Ua3qhp 13 October 2021 15: 08
      0
      Quote: BAI
      Strange message. In the USSR and the Russian Federation, an inventor and innovator is not a profession, but rather a hobby.

      Hobby to arrange everything in the form of pieces of paper.
      It happens that you develop a product, you think, you think then once and did it, if you fill out an application, then there will be an invention, if not, then just a design document for the work performed.
  17. Prisoner
    Prisoner 13 October 2021 15: 51
    0
    "It is much easier for industrialists to buy a ready-made solution abroad" (c) This means that it is necessary to offer solutions that cannot be bought there due to their absence.
  18. Hexenmeister
    Hexenmeister 13 October 2021 16: 25
    0
    For example, in the mid-70s, every fourth application in the world for an invention was from the USSR.
    This is how this system in the USSR amazed me at one time, that one could formally write "different in that ..." in figs was not needed by anyone! And at the same time, you could swing at the "method" (I don't remember exactly what it was called, that is, any specific implementation in this way would be with your "authorship"), not include any bosses in the application, and after listening to the opinions of "experienced" comrades that nothing will work out, after all, send an application, having received the first negative review of the "expert", although what kind of expert he is, only a few were engaged in this in the country, and "having sent" an expert "to learn mathematics" in his answer, get a positive result in the second answer !
    1. agond
      agond 13 October 2021 19: 18
      0
      If the inventor is not a full-time employee, and not a named inventor from the street, then it turns out that he, inventing, gives an answer to a question not asked personally to him, and he addresses the answer to an indefinite circle of people who did not ask him any questions and does not intend to ask, naturally, the invention of the "intruder "hangs unclaimed, and those who are supposed to look for answers to this question according to the state will ignore the independent inventor, they cannot otherwise, because they are on the salary. and then a competitor was found.
      1. ycuce234-san
        ycuce234-san 13 October 2021 22: 47
        0
        There are whole companies that are engaged in "engineering", which includes professional inventions. It's just that we have 1-2% of these companies by industry - that is, as much as there were companies founded by inventors to promote their inventions in England in the era of the beginning of the industrial revolution and a couple ...
      2. Hexenmeister
        Hexenmeister 14 October 2021 10: 07
        0
        If the inventor is not a full-time employee and not a named inventor from the street
        The meaning of my message was not because "someone else's inventor or his own", but in the fact that the system that existed in the USSR made it possible to produce a mass of useless and simple "inventions", this is on the one hand. On the other hand, there was a real opportunity to fix your copyrights "globally", but it was not possible to track these rights on real systems! And, as far as I know, only in "our time" they began to pay attention to this in the first place, for example, in connection with export contracts for weapons. It is only impossible to track down to real authors which of their "closed" Soviet applications have turned into real patents, just as it is impossible to receive appropriate remuneration from those "not involved" in them.
  19. Ua3qhp
    Ua3qhp 15 October 2021 07: 50
    0
    Quote: Hexenmeister
    but the fact that the system that existed in the USSR made it possible to produce a mass of useless and simple "inventions",

    This is a worldwide feature of the patent system "... different in that", a huge amount of outright slag, patents for the sake of patents and a feeder for various lawyers, such as patenting the corner radius on a smartphone.
  20. EvilLion
    EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 10
    0
    Please show me these Japanese inventions, and Japanese science too.

    However, if each design development is called an invention and all garbage is registered, then the Japanese will probably show something.
  21. EvilLion
    EvilLion 18 October 2021 10: 14
    0
    The author would define what an inventor is, and then reason.