Syrian air defense missile system "Pantsir-S" intercepted Israeli missiles

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Russian anti-aircraft missile-gun complex "Pantsir-S", which is in service with the Syrian army, repelled an attack by the Israeli aviationby intercepting the missiles fired to her. This was reported in the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties.

As Rear Admiral Vadim Kulit said, on October 8, F-16 fighters of the Israeli Air Force struck missiles at the T-4 airfield near the city of Homs. The Syrian Pantsir-S air defense missile system, which is part of the Syrian air defense forces, managed to intercept eight of the twelve missiles fired, and four more reached the ground. As a result of the hit, six Syrian soldiers were injured, there is damage on the territory of the airfield with minor damage to the property of the Syrian army.



On October 21, at 33:16, six F-12 tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force, crossing the state border of the SAR in the Al-Tanf area, struck with 4 guided missiles at the T-XNUMX (Tifor) airfield in the province of Homs. (...) Eight missiles destroyed

- said in a statement.

The Israeli Air Force command traditionally did not comment on the strike, but earlier it was reported that the strikes on the T-4 airfield were being carried out under the pretext of the presence on its territory of objects belonging to Iran and "pro-Iranian armed groups" acting on the side of Damascus.
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    1. +12
      10 October 2021 06: 51
      The Syrian Pantsir-S air defense missile system, which is part of the Syrian air defense forces, managed to intercept eight of the twelve missiles fired, and four more reached the ground.

      The result, of course, is not 100%, but for an objective assessment of the efficiency of the "Pantsir-S" operation, you need to know how many air defense missile systems were used.
      1. -13
        10 October 2021 06: 58
        For an objective assessment, you must first cite the words of the candidate admiral in full
        quoting the deputy head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties in Syria, Rear Admiral Vadim Kulit.
        "On October 21 at 33:16 six F-XNUMX tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force crossing the state border of the Syrian Arab Republic in the Al-Tanf area, they struck with twelve guided missiles at the T-4 airfield ("Tifor") in the province of Homs. The duty forces of the Syrian air defense of the Armed Forces of the SAR of the Russian-made Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and cannon complex destroyed eight missiles, "Kulit told Russian journalists.

        this somehow does not entirely coincide with the previous statement of Syria that the strike was delivered from the territory of Lebanon.
        Judging by the published videos of the blow, well, the blow was by no means 4 rockets.
        In general, all the vehicles are usually - missiles are shot down - targets are destroyed.
        In 2 days we will receive photos from the places.
        1. 0
          10 October 2021 07: 05
          Everything is as usual. Some of the missiles were destroyed and some of the targets too. Both did not succeed ...
          1. -28
            10 October 2021 07: 09
            Quote: Fungus
            part of the goals too. Neither did they succeed ...

            And why did you decide that only a part?
            From your proposal (as well as from the admiral's statement), only a part of the indisputable fact is that the blow has been delivered. The air defense missed.
            The rest is just guesswork.
            mk no photo shot down, no photo shoot down - no.
            But the impact frames and the power of the explosion from a missile hit - as many as you like.
            1. +5
              10 October 2021 07: 12
              Because most of the missiles were shot down and not all reached the target. Therefore, only a part.
              1. -21
                10 October 2021 07: 16
                Quote: Fungus
                Because most of the missiles were shot down and not all reached the target. Therefore, only a part.

                you have no confirmation of what you just said.
                The fact of blow and destruction is indisputable, all the rest of the words are not supported by anything.
                As recently as the day before yesterday, the official representative of Syria said. that the strike was from the territory of Lebanon - well, who to believe?
                1. +13
                  10 October 2021 07: 58
                  Quote: atalef
                  Syria said. that the strike was from the territory of Lebanon - well, who to believe?

                  Here, Alexander "Strategy flooded over strategy" - The Syrians say that the carriers could not shoot down because they were from Lebanon. The Russians say that there was a border crossing, which means that it is possible and necessary to shoot down the carriers. I would say that Kulit to tell you in plain text: "Repent, Israelis. You will get a discount."
                  1. -13
                    10 October 2021 09: 15
                    Quote: Tusv
                    To tell you in plain text:

                    In social networks, I have already met a new meme / term - "Kutilshchina". (do not shoot the messenger for bad news) And in the Russian segment. By analogy with "manilovism", as I understand it. As you yourself understand, this indicates a low level of confidence in the words of the authorities on the part of the population.
                    1. +9
                      10 October 2021 09: 22
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      new meme / term - "Kutilshchina".

                      Vashcheto my post to replace the office. position. Was it entering the airspace or not. For the past two years, representatives of the Ministry of Defense have always spoken from Lebanon, and here with a call to the military commissariat of Syria. Why would you?
                      1. +1
                        10 October 2021 09: 49
                        Quote: Tusv
                        Was it entering the airspace or not. For the past two years, representatives of the Ministry of Defense have always spoken from Lebanon, and here with a call to the military commissariat of Syria. Why would you?

                        Apparently there were political reasons.
                        You understand that the action itself, the so-called. "call" is practically unrelated to "talked about"?
                        So there is a long tradition that the publicity of the results of the actions of the tsarist / Soviet / Russian army serves the interests of politics, and not public awareness. This was the case in WWI, in WWII, in the Afghan company, with "advisers" in the BV, in Chechnya, and so on.
                        And I do not judge whether it is good or bad, that is for you to judge. It's just that the approaches to this issue in different countries are different, and the attempts of members of the forum to interpret the actions of the IDF with their own yardstick, only add turbidity to the issue.
                        And attempts to explain are met with hostility, like "if it is not so with us, then you cannot have it either."
                        It is not constructive, but it is. request
                        1. +19
                          10 October 2021 11: 37
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          So there is a long tradition that the publicity of the results of the actions of the tsarist / Soviet / Russian army serves the interests of politics, and not public awareness.

                          Is it only the "tsarist / Soviet / Russian army"? Name at least one country where the enemy's merits will be rated higher than their own. Zadolbali obseraniya their homeland.
                        2. +3
                          10 October 2021 15: 20
                          У THESE Homeland is where the fifth point is warm hi Moreover, all the Jews in the VO are now swarming on this topic, most of them are from Ukraine and Belarus. hi
                2. -10
                  10 October 2021 08: 36
                  Quote: atalef
                  Quote: Fungus
                  Because most of the missiles were shot down and not all reached the target. Therefore, only a part.

                  you have no confirmation of what you just said.
                  The fact of blow and destruction is indisputable, all the rest of the words are not supported by anything.
                  As recently as the day before yesterday, the official representative of Syria said. that the strike was from the territory of Lebanon - well, who to believe?

                  Do you have to argue about it? There will be pictures from the scene and then we will talk, but for now this version has the right to exist, like any other.
                  1. +1
                    10 October 2021 10: 41

                    Aron Zaawi (Aron)
                    Today, 08: 36
                    are you soaring in the morning? laughing Did you feed them a manenko - -8? laughing
                    1. 0
                      10 October 2021 11: 07
                      Quote: aszzz888

                      Aron Zaawi (Aron)
                      Today, 08: 36
                      are you soaring in the morning? laughing Did you feed them a manenko - -8? laughing

                      Sawing from the highest mountain tongue
                      1. 0
                        10 October 2021 12: 01

                        Aron Zaawi (Aron)
                        Today, 11: 07
                        NEW ... Sawing from the highest mountain tongue.
                        Oops, then we fed! laughing tongue"the people - they see EVERYTHING, and you will not trample against them, laughing psi. "drink" further! wassat
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                  2. +6
                    10 October 2021 10: 43
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    Quote: atalef
                    Quote: Fungus
                    Because most of the missiles were shot down and not all reached the target. Therefore, only a part.

                    you have no confirmation of what you just said.
                    The fact of blow and destruction is indisputable, all the rest of the words are not supported by anything.
                    As recently as the day before yesterday, the official representative of Syria said. that the strike was from the territory of Lebanon - well, who to believe?

                    Do you have to argue about it? There will be pictures from the scene and then we will talk, but for now this version has the right to exist, like any other.

                    when they will, then show off, and now the information - the targets are not hit AT ALL, and so how many times already, and the fact that the Syrians were wounded is a consequence of the deflection of missiles
                    1. -3
                      10 October 2021 11: 09
                      Quote: poquello

                      when they will, then show off, and now the information - the targets are not hit AT ALL, and so how many times already, and the fact that the Syrians were wounded is a consequence of the deflection of missiles

                      Let it be so for now. It doesn't bother me.
                    2. +1
                      11 October 2021 19: 25
                      Quote: poquello
                      and the fact that the Syrians were wounded is a consequence of the deflection of missiles
                      Isn't this the consequences of missile launches, and not their deflection?
                      1. -2
                        11 October 2021 19: 35
                        Quote: businessv
                        Quote: poquello
                        and the fact that the Syrians were wounded is a consequence of the deflection of missiles
                        Isn't this the consequences of missile launches, and not their deflection?

                        please do not offend the Jews, they spend so much time preparing these attacks not to injure 6 Syrians
                        1. 0
                          11 October 2021 19: 46
                          Quote: poquello
                          please do not offend the Jews, they spend so much time preparing these attacks not to injure 6 Syrians
                          Not even in my thoughts! You do not understand - there would be no launches, there would be no wounded! smile
                        2. -1
                          11 October 2021 19: 48
                          Quote: businessv
                          Quote: poquello
                          please do not offend the Jews, they spend so much time preparing these attacks not to injure 6 Syrians
                          Not even in my thoughts! You do not understand - there would be no launches, there would be no wounded! smile

                          there were launches, hit the wrong place
                  3. +4
                    10 October 2021 16: 14
                    Quote: Aaron Zawi
                    Do you have to argue about it? There will be pictures from the scene and then we will talk, but for now this version has the right to exist, like any other.

                    OK. Only without photoshop pliz. And then we saw the result of the attack of the axes that flew and they are many times more than the current ones, and the warhead is a hundred times higher then and now
                    1. -1
                      10 October 2021 17: 52
                      Quote: Tusv
                      Quote: Aaron Zawi
                      Do you have to argue about it? There will be pictures from the scene and then we will talk, but for now this version has the right to exist, like any other.

                      OK. Only without photoshop pliz. And then we saw the result of the attack of the axes that flew and they are many times more than the current ones, and the warhead is a hundred times higher then and now
                      1. +1
                        10 October 2021 18: 30
                        So what is next? Aaron? Or here the fox was running, or maybe not, or maybe it was a janitor. But agree. The 12 axes recognized by the Russian Ministry of Defense have caused noticeably less damage than your attacks with smaller warheads and smaller delivery vehicles. Agree. This does give reason to doubt the sincerity of your pictures.
                        1. 0
                          10 October 2021 20: 15
                          Quote: Tusv
                          So what is next? Aaron? Or here the fox was running, or maybe not, or maybe it was a janitor. But agree. The 12 axes recognized by the Russian Ministry of Defense have caused noticeably less damage than your attacks with smaller warheads and smaller delivery vehicles. Agree. This does give reason to doubt the sincerity of your pictures.

                          I have not believed your propaganda for a long time and stubbornly.
                        2. 0
                          10 October 2021 20: 21
                          Quote: Aaron Zawi
                          I have not believed your propaganda for a long time and stubbornly.

                          Here is my Mom, by the way purebred. Jewish, she said. Fuck you goldfish. And you probably have the name Ivanov
                        3. -2
                          10 October 2021 20: 53
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: Aaron Zawi
                          I have not believed your propaganda for a long time and stubbornly.

                          Here is my Mom, by the way purebred. Jewish, she said. Fuck you goldfish. And you probably have the name Ivanov

                          I'll tell you so "either put on your panties or take off the cross."
                        4. +4
                          10 October 2021 21: 11
                          Quote: Aaron Zawi
                          I'll tell you so "either put on your panties or take off the cross."

                          There is no cross in the Guards badge, and there is not even a hint of this entourage. And so. I replenished the stock of normal panties in the amount of three pieces. Today. For the Guardsman is forbidden to shine with his bare butt bully
                        5. 0
                          10 October 2021 21: 14
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Quote: Aaron Zawi
                          I'll tell you so "either put on your panties or take off the cross."

                          There is no cross in the Guards badge, and there is not even a hint of this entourage. And so. I replenished the stock of normal panties in the amount of three pieces. Today. For the Guardsman is forbidden to shine with his bare butt bully

                          My grandfather of the Guard, Captain Shamai Abramovich Agranat, did not forget to put on a tallit.
                        6. +4
                          10 October 2021 21: 18
                          And my Grandmother and Grandfather treated the soldiers who broke the blockade. Your tallit doesn't roll
                        7. -3
                          10 October 2021 21: 22
                          Quote: Tusv
                          And my Grandmother and Grandfather treated the soldiers who broke the blockade. Your tallit doesn't roll

                          I agree for you. So stop waving your mom's Jewishness around. It means less to you than nothing. This is not a reproach. There are tens of thousands of people like you, just to the left for you, to us to the right here are goodbyes.
                        8. +4
                          10 October 2021 21: 31
                          Not that I brandish more Guards corporal Air Defense? And he cited Mama as an example for the first time. I remind you that you made a mistake calling me an officer, but they taught me righteously, according to the air defense. Because your speeches are funny to me
                        9. -5
                          10 October 2021 22: 14
                          Quote: Tusv
                          corporalism

                          With such a wonderful mother, the letter "F" in the rank should be changed to "B". wassat
                          Although .... how do the people say about corporals? There was something about a daughter and a son ... lol tongue
                        10. +5
                          10 October 2021 22: 16
                          Do not care, the main thing is how the enemy's pepelats flee from the corporals hi
                          I can say that notably, with dignity and afterburner
                        11. +5
                          10 October 2021 22: 27
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          With such a wonderful mother, the letter "F" in the rank should be changed to "B".

                          Mom is always with a capital M and not with F, and even more so with V. Minus you for insulting the person from which the Motherland begins. Rejoice. Jubilee fifth
                        12. -3
                          10 October 2021 22: 33
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Mom is always with a capital M

                          There is no such rule in Russian. negative

                          Quote: Tusv
                          Minus you

                          And to you, for the lack of a sense of humor. tongue
                        13. +4
                          10 October 2021 22: 38
                          Mom and a sense of humor? Yes, you completely beguiled the coast. You yourself understand that you climbed into the wrong steppe?
                        14. -4
                          10 October 2021 23: 20
                          Quote: Tusv
                          Mom and a sense of humor?

                          If it is good, I see nothing reprehensible.
                          I see no reason to treat this topic as a fanatic to his religion. No.

                          Quote: Tusv
                          Yes, you completely beguiled the coast.

                          Culture flooded? Turn off the bull, not impressive. negative

                          Quote: Tusv
                          You yourself understand that you climbed into the wrong steppe?

                          That steppe, not the same fellow traveler. It happens. request
                        15. +1
                          10 October 2021 22: 42
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          There is no such rule in Russian.

                          But there is such a rule to rake
                        16. -1
                          10 October 2021 23: 23
                          Quote: Tusv
                          But there is such a rule to rake

                          Yes, not about your honor. lol
                        17. +3
                          10 October 2021 22: 44
                          You are a lousy interlocutor. For sim I take my leave
                        18. -4
                          10 October 2021 23: 25
                          Quote: Tusv
                          You are a lousy interlocutor.

                          Nothing to blame on the mirror. No.
                        19. +3
                          10 October 2021 22: 14
                          But I put downsides when the Motherland is insulted. He put only four in his entire general career at VO. I ask you not to mindlessly bet. They defend their homeland, we protect ours
                        20. -3
                          10 October 2021 22: 24
                          Quote: Tusv
                          I ask you not to mindlessly bet.

                          Not a horse feed. You will also ask them to give reasons. wassat
                          For many, minus is a smart ceiling. Other ways of expressing are beyond their cognitive capabilities. fellow
                3. -6
                  10 October 2021 09: 00
                  Take turns to believe. First, the representative of Syria, then Russia.
                  Then the pictures, although no. Do not believe the pictures
                  1. +4
                    10 October 2021 10: 46
                    Quote: Roman1970_1
                    Take turns to believe. First, the representative of Syria, then Russia.
                    Then the pictures, although no. Do not believe the pictures

                    think correctly, there was a case - then they laid out pictures of a destroyed building, which overgrown with moss at the sites of destruction, probably the wrong moss - it grows quickly and a lot
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              3. +8
                10 October 2021 08: 46
                12 missiles were fired ... 8 were shot down ... 30 percent passed.
                The result is still not bad for the air defense of Syria.
                1. -5
                  10 October 2021 10: 30
                  Like this ?? NOT a bad result? 70% were shot down. What if a more massive attack?
                  1. +4
                    10 October 2021 12: 57
                    Quote: Teptyar
                    Like this ?? NOT a bad result? 70% were shot down. What if a more massive attack?

                    Judging by the reports on the missiles, only one "shell" worked, if there were at least two, or better 3 installations, all the missiles would have been shot down. But alas, Syria is not a rich country, it cannot buy many "shells".
              4. -2
                10 October 2021 11: 14
                everyone is happy! The Israelis overwhelmed the targets with 4 missiles and no casualties, and the Pantsir shot down 8 missiles, allegedly harming Israel)
                1. +6
                  10 October 2021 12: 59
                  Quote: dima314
                  Israelis bombarded targets with 4 rockets

                  Who told you that it was just like that? In any case, the damage from 4 missiles will be much less. than from 12. And if we proceed from the assumption that the targets could be hit with 4 missiles, but because of the air defense, the Israeli planes were forced to release 12 missiles, then this is also a result - there will be an overrun.
                  1. 0
                    11 October 2021 06: 24
                    apparently the shell cannot hit more than two targets at the same time ...
                    "Two independent guidance means - radar and optoelectronic system - allow you to capture four targets simultaneously"
            2. +5
              10 October 2021 07: 16
              So what?) Can you also confidently state that the goals have been achieved there?) Or was the goal simply to blow up?) As for the statements. Some time ago, ours stopped playing along with one of the too cunning fathers and just began to interfere and speak as they are. The Syrian side can say what it wants.
              1. -12
                10 October 2021 07: 19
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Some time ago, ours stopped playing along with one of the too cunning fathers and just began to interfere and speak as they are.

                but yes, of course, only 6 F-16s passed half of Syria at least. What kind of missiles shot down, not planes?
                1. +10
                  10 October 2021 07: 21
                  Politics. The carriers seem to be knocked down until the time has come. I hope it will not come. Although it would have happened once. Hurry to knock down.
                  1. -11
                    10 October 2021 08: 24
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Policy... The carriers apparently knock down until the time has come

                    Because of this policy one military ally of Syria is losing face.

                    This word doesn't explain anything. A real explanation is needed. For example, they could not, they were afraid (of the consequences) ... In any case, there is no result of opposition. This means that the Jewish strikes will continue further.
                    1. +7
                      10 October 2021 11: 44
                      Well, you would of course. The whole world is in dust. I don't even doubt it.
                    2. +2
                      11 October 2021 15: 48
                      Quote: Stas157
                      For example, they could not, they were scared (of the consequences) ...

                      But who admits this then?
                  2. +3
                    10 October 2021 15: 43
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Politics. The carriers seem to be knocked down until the time has come. I hope it will not come. Although it would have happened once. Hurry to knock down.

                    Shot down in 2018, over Israeli territory. This is not a matter of arrogance - after the war of 2006, the Lebanese do not allow Hezbollah to create a full-fledged infrastructure for the production and storage of missiles, tk. To hate Israeli airstrikes because of the Shiite party, Christians and most of the Sunnis are not interested.
                    Hezbollah is doing this in Syria, with the help of the Iranians. The Israelis get in the way as best they can. The Syrians naturally provide feasible resistance, but their air defense / fighter aircraft left much to be desired even at the peak of the USSR's power in 1982, when the Jews made them in a day.
                    Therefore, the calculation of downed missiles today is rather an advertisement of the Russian military-industrial complex for potential buyers, and Israel will carry out its tasks to the end. Like Hezbollah with the Persians hi
                  3. +3
                    11 October 2021 15: 46
                    Quote: carstorm 11
                    Hurry to knock down.

                    Go to the zoo, enter the aviary to the leopard, and give him a fist in the face to "knock down arrogance." Then tell us how it went. lol
                2. +8
                  10 October 2021 13: 00
                  Quote: atalef
                  only 6 F-16s passed half the territory of Syria at least

                  It's a big question how long they went there.
                  Quote: atalef
                  What kind of missiles shot down, not planes?

                  Probably because the shell will not reach the "sixteen" going at maximum height? And to shoot down missiles on approach to targets - just his task?
              2. -15
                10 October 2021 07: 50
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Can you also confidently declare that the goals have been achieved there?)

                98% based on statistics. All the previous times the goal was achieved, which was confirmed later by satellite images. Therefore, there is no compelling reason to believe that this time will be any different.
                In addition, if not all goals were achieved, then the blow would be repeated as many times as it would take to complete the goal. If the military received an order, then they must carry it out. Or how do you imagine it? Such a general comes to the Minister of Defense and says "we threw bombs, but not all of the targets were destroyed, contrary to the order and for no good reason" - so what? I don't know about other armies, but from the IDF such a general will fly out ahead of his own screech, along with the entire squadron.
                1. +9
                  10 October 2021 13: 02
                  Quote: And Us Rat
                  All the previous times the goal was achieved, which was confirmed later by satellite images.

                  Do you know how you can say about achieving goals when they are not announced in advance? For example, they planned to rip out the entire canvas at the airfield and level all the buildings to the ground, but it turned out to make a couple of funnels in the canvas and demolish one shed. Then declare that it was conceived))))
            3. +1
              10 October 2021 08: 16
              Liquid people! Two mutually exclusive opinions: the Air Force destroys enemy ground targets with a probability of 80% and air defense protects ground targets with a probability of 80% ?! But together, something does not work out!
            4. +9
              10 October 2021 08: 26
              А why did you decide that only a part? From your proposal (as well as from the admiral's statement), only a part of the indisputable fact is that the blow has been delivered. The air defense missed.
              The rest is just guesswork.
              mk no photo of the shot down, no photo of the shoot down - no "


              I did not give any disadvantages to anyone, for it is a sin to laugh at the sick. Argue like children. Neither the Syrians nor the Russians have the right to tell the truth, as this will be a direct report to Israel on the effectiveness of the strikes. Essentially an adjustment. There is a war going on, not tasty sweets are falling from the sky.
              1. 0
                10 October 2021 10: 33
                war with whom? Israel strikes targeted Iranians. Russian-made Syrian air defense deflects these attacks. Who is fighting whom - Russia and Israel?
                1. +7
                  10 October 2021 13: 03
                  Quote: Teptyar
                  war with whom? Israel strikes targeted Iranians. Russian-made Syrian air defense deflects these attacks. Who is fighting whom - Russia and Israel?

                  Rather, Syria with Israel, and for a long time.
              2. +1
                10 October 2021 15: 31
                Quote: URAL72
                Neither the Syrians nor the Russians have the right to tell the truth, as this will be a direct report to Israel on the effectiveness of the strikes.

                The first adequate comment on the entire thread. hi
            5. +12
              10 October 2021 08: 43
              Quote: atalef
              mk no photo shot down, no photo shoot down - no.
              But the impact frames and the power of the explosion from a missile hit - as many as you like.

              Come to think of it, are you sure the photo is from there? Proof from the Internet is so-so proof ... We, the inhabitants, know exactly as much as we let know ...
            6. +4
              10 October 2021 10: 37
              Quote: atalef
              And why did you decide that only a part?

              think right, goals are not destroyed
          2. +16
            10 October 2021 07: 40
            Quote: Fungus
            Everything is as usual. Some of the missiles were destroyed and some of the targets too. Both did not succeed ...

            Unfortunately for the BIG, everything is as usual Yes Syrian air defense is fighting missiles, not their carriers ...

            Now, if the Israelis suffered losses in aviation, it would be a completely different calico Yes
            1. -8
              10 October 2021 09: 55
              Quote: PiK
              Now, if the Israelis suffered losses in aviation, it would be a completely different calico

              The air defense of Syria will gladly accept such a motivated asker like you into its ranks.
              1. +7
                10 October 2021 10: 00
                Quote: andreykolesov123
                The air defense of Syria will gladly accept such a motivated asker like you into its ranks.

                I serve in other ranks, allied with Syria, but working in a slightly different direction ...
                Therefore - the Syrians YOURSELF, where necessary, with our help Yes
                1. -11
                  10 October 2021 10: 02
                  Quote: PiK
                  Therefore - the Syrians YOURSELF, where necessary, with our help

                  Somehow the Syrians do it in Jewish without you, don't you think?
                  1. +9
                    10 October 2021 10: 10
                    Quote: andreykolesov123
                    Somehow the Syrians do it in Jewish without you, don't you think?

                    With not the best performance due to the lack of a modern layered air defense system?
                    You call it - "in Jewish"?
                    1. 0
                      10 October 2021 20: 14
                      Quote: PiK
                      Do you call it "in Hebrew"?

                      That was sarcasm. In Russia, work in Hebrew is called any work done crookedly. This does not prevent the residents of Russia from buying Israeli goods and coming to Israel for treatment. Double standarts.
                  2. +3
                    10 October 2021 13: 06
                    Quote: andreykolesov123
                    Somehow the Syrians do it in Jewish without you, don't you think?

                    The Syrians are not doing very well for two reasons - classic local carelessness + lack of money. If they began to gradually cope with the first, then the second is still a problem. For without money, there will be a couple of "shells" where there should be a dozen of them, and another five "tori", or one battery "beech".
                    1. Aag
                      0
                      10 October 2021 15: 29
                      Quote: Albert1988
                      Quote: andreykolesov123
                      Somehow the Syrians do it in Jewish without you, don't you think?

                      The Syrians are not doing very well for two reasons - classic local carelessness + lack of money. If they began to gradually cope with the first, then the second is still a problem. For without money, there will be a couple of "shells" where there should be a dozen of them, and another five "tori", or one battery "beech".

                      And can you, of course, approximately, notify how with the air defense on the territory of the Russian Federation?
                      You see, I live 300 meters from the command post of the RD PGRG "Topol", sorry, already "Yars" - but I hear about air defense only from the media ...
                      NO, I welcome the secrecy mode very much! But, even being a com. APU (autonomous launcher) (com -M "," Needles "... Really, nobody (!) From
                      I didn’t hold rocket men in my hands ...
                      Sorry if you didn't save the GWT ...
                      They will read, - I hope, - they will not think about me, - but, about the problem .. hi
                      1. +4
                        10 October 2021 17: 22
                        Quote: AAG
                        And can you, of course, approximately, notify how with the air defense on the territory of the Russian Federation?

                        And the Russian Federation is simple - there is an important object - it is covered by echeloned air defense - the S-300/400 are intercepted at a great distance, then we narrow the circles - "beeches", "tori", "shells", well, "men with MANPADS". At the same time, during deployment, the installations are placed so as to interrupt each other's sectors.
                        Quote: AAG
                        shooting practice with "Strela-M", "Needle" ... Really, no one (!) from
                        I didn’t hold rocket men in my hands ...

                        When did you serve? If in the 90s - early 2000s, it is not surprising, now the situation is a little different, with everything.
            2. -3
              10 October 2021 15: 34
              Quote: PiK
              Now, if the Israelis suffered losses in aviation, it would be a completely different calico

              Yeah, for the unfortunate Syrians. They remember what happened 2 years ago, when they managed to shoot down one F-16. And, apparently, they do not want repetition.
              1. +5
                10 October 2021 17: 31
                What happened? Israel attacked the Syrian air defense.
                I don't really understand, but what should the Syrians expect?
                Their territory is bombed, but they cannot destroy the aggressor's samoli, because otherwise their air defense will be hit by this very aggressor?
                Then why do we need such an air defense system if it cannot be used? :)
                1. -2
                  10 October 2021 20: 52
                  Quote: Denis812
                  What happened?

                  And it was that after the loss of the plane, the IDF air force ironed the south of Syria for XNUMX hours, inflicting dozens of strikes, and destroying everything even remotely similar to air defense and Iranian objects from the Golan to Damascus. Of course, you will not find this episode in the Russian media.
                  https://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/israel-says-iranian-forces-fired-rockets-golan-heights-posts-n872866

                  Quote: Denis812
                  I don't really understand, but what should the Syrians expect?

                  Repetitions of that flogging. And they don't want that.

                  Quote: Denis812
                  Their territory is bombed, but they cannot destroy the aggressor's samoli, because otherwise their air defense will be hit by this very aggressor?

                  Nobody has the right to prohibit them, they are absolutely free to make decisions in this matter. And they decided not to shoot at the carriers anymore. Because they understand that a decision always has consequences.
                  And they are not ready for the consequences of their decisions. The causal relationship has not yet been canceled.

                  Quote: Denis812
                  Then why do we need such an air defense system if it cannot be used?

                  That would not create them later from scratch. Backed up for the future, until better times. In addition, not all of Syria's neighbors have such an air force.
                  1. +4
                    10 October 2021 22: 40
                    Can you tell us more about this blow with quantitative parameters?
                    1. +2
                      11 October 2021 16: 05
                      Quote: Spring Fluff
                      Can you tell us more about this blow with quantitative parameters?

                      Rephrase the question in a more accessible way, I don't understand what exactly do you want to know?
                      1. 0
                        11 October 2021 23: 49
                        What did Israel use - planes, ammunition, type, quantity, which targets were hit?
                        1. +1
                          12 October 2021 20: 07
                          Quote: Spring Fluff
                          aircraft, ammunition, type, quantity

                          Such things are not widely publicized in the media.

                          Quote: Spring Fluff
                          which of the targets was struck?

                          All that is known is here:
                          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Израильско-сирийский_инцидент_(май_2018)
          3. +16
            10 October 2021 10: 01
            Quote: Fungus
            Some of the missiles were destroyed and some of the targets too. Both did not succeed.

            There is such a tactic: "oversaturation" of the enemy's defense ... when they use more ammunition than targets in the expectation that "more" will break through to the targets, while the air defense will shoot down ammunition, having exhausted its capabilities ... To put it simply ... ...: 4 objects protected by strong air defense ... enemy reconnaissance reported data on the capabilities of this air defense ... the ability to shoot down 8 missiles ... that's why 12 missiles are launched ... 8 missiles were shot down, and 4 missiles destroyed the intended ones 4 goals!
            1. +5
              10 October 2021 13: 09
              Quote: Nikolaevich I
              There is such a tactic: "oversaturation" of the enemy's defense ... when using more ammunition than targets

              It is quite possible that it was so. But this tactic has one problem - resource overruns.
              1. +6
                10 October 2021 13: 50
                Quote: Albert1988
                this tactic has one problem - resource overruns.

                There is such a "problem" ... and it will be a little expensive to launch "real" high-precision missiles! But I, unfortunately, "in a hurry" forgot to mention that in the "first echelon" false "missiles" or even outdated missiles can be used ... In addition, the meaning of targets "intended" for destruction can also be of importance! Do you think Israel will spare the expensive missiles in the "excessive number" for the destruction of the "nuclear center"?
                1. +5
                  10 October 2021 14: 14
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  There is such a "problem" ... and it will be a little expensive to launch "real" high-precision missiles! But I, unfortunately, "in a hurry" forgot to mention that in the "first echelon" false "missiles" or even outdated missiles can be used ...

                  This is also a big question, what are "false missiles", whether Israel uses them, and whether it used them in this situation. It is no secret that Israelis often exaggerate the effectiveness of their weapons more than others for advertising purposes.
                  Quote: Nikolaevich I
                  Do you think Israel will spare the expensive missiles in the "excessive number" for the destruction of the "nuclear center"?

                  First, show me the "nuclear center" in Syria, and the missiles. capable of reaching the territory of Iran, Israel does not have and is not expected, and the air defense around the nuclear center in the same Iran, oh what a toothy one. And then - "nuclear centers" - a rare and small phenomenon. But if Israel has to spend 12 missiles instead of 4 to bomb a warehouse with ammunition for Iranian forces in Syria, of which there are clouds, then it is a completely different matter.
                  1. +4
                    10 October 2021 14: 34
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    what are "false missiles"

                    Quote: Albert1988
                    show me the "nuclear center" in Syria,

                    Unfortunately, you did not understand the inner meaning of my comment as a whole ... and now you find fault with the "shell" of the comment ...
                    1. 0
                      10 October 2021 17: 24
                      Quote: Nikolaevich I
                      Unfortunately, you did not understand the inner meaning of my comment as a whole ... and now you find fault with the "shell" of the comment ...

                      I understood him well, because he is on the surface, but here we are discussing a specific case.
                  2. -2
                    10 October 2021 15: 37
                    Quote: Albert1988
                    First, show me the "nuclear center" in Syria

                    He was, and then he was gone. The conclusion is obvious. request
                    1. +2
                      10 October 2021 17: 24
                      Quote: And Us Rat
                      He was, and then he was gone. The conclusion is obvious.

                      Alas, it did not happen that even the radiation got scared and hit the road laughing laughing laughing
                      You first think that you are writing, because the "nuclear center" is an object very different from the shed where the IRGC stores ammunition.
                      1. -3
                        10 October 2021 20: 15
                        Quote: Albert1988
                        Alas, it did not happen that even the radiation got scared and hit the road

                        Educational program for the lazy:
                        https://tvzvezda.ru/news/201803210622-misw.htm

                        Quote: Albert1988
                        You think first

                        I haven't stopped since birth, which is why I always have arguments, which is what I wish for you. hi
                        1. +3
                          10 October 2021 20: 27
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          https://tvzvezda.ru/news/201803210622-misw.htm

                          And where is the description of the isotopic composition of that release, which then covered the whole of Syria, and also touched the neighboring countries?
                          Do you even understand what you are bringing here? Who built the reactor, which reactor (experimental, industrial, etc.)? Do you at least understand that nuclear reactors at the "final stages" are loading of nuclear fuel? Do you have any idea what will happen when all this is blown into the air? Fake of the purest water.
                          Quote: And Us Rat
                          I haven't stopped since birth, which is why I always have arguments, which is what I wish for you.

                          Judging by what "news" you brought here as an argument, it is very doubtful ...
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                        3. +2
                          10 October 2021 21: 41
                          So I drove your link into Google, I was given a lot of links, the first freedom on radio:
                          https://www.svoboda.org/a/29113650.html
                          What do they write there at the very beginning:
                          "The Israeli Air Force bombed in Syria near the city of Deir ez-Zor, near the border with Iraq, an object that, presumably, was a nuclear reactor under construction. "
                          "Immediately after that attack, representatives of the US intelligence community subjected the information that it was indeed a reactor to considerable criticism. According to them, the Israeli military in 2007 reacted excessively quickly to information that a mysterious cargo from the DPRK allegedly arrived in Syria. be parts of equipment for the construction of a reactor in the future to create weapons-grade uranium and plutonium, that is, nuclear weapons. "
                          A curtain....
                        4. -1
                          10 October 2021 21: 38
                          Quote: Albert1988
                          And where is the description of the isotopic composition of that release, which then covered the whole of Syria, and also touched the neighboring countries?

                          In the same place as the "isotopic composition" from the Iraqi reactor destroyed in 1981. Nowhere. Both gouged to the point of loading fuel.
                          Continuation of the educational program for the lazy:
                          https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%D1%86%D0%B8%D1%8F_%C2%AB%D0%9E%D0%BF%D0%B5%D1%80%D0%B0%C2%BB
                        5. +2
                          10 October 2021 21: 47
                          My post is above ...
                          With a reference to Radio Liberty)))))
                          In short, the IDF thought it was a reactor and bombed it ... And what it really was - they do not really care, the threat of Iran makes the hair stand on end so much that everything is obscured. The fact that Iran cannot build full-fledged reactors on its own, of course, does not reassure))) But it is good that the IDF is hammering the Iranians in Syria, otherwise they would have come running in such numbers that they have already created problems for Russia.
        2. Aag
          +3
          10 October 2021 15: 11
          Quote: atalef
          For an objective assessment, you must first cite the words of the candidate admiral in full
          quoting the deputy head of the Russian Center for the Reconciliation of Warring Parties in Syria, Rear Admiral Vadim Kulit.
          "On October 21 at 33:16 six F-XNUMX tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force crossing the state border of the Syrian Arab Republic in the Al-Tanf area, they struck with twelve guided missiles at the T-4 airfield ("Tifor") in the province of Homs. The duty forces of the Syrian air defense of the Armed Forces of the SAR of the Russian-made Pantsir anti-aircraft missile and cannon complex destroyed eight missiles, "Kulit told Russian journalists.

          this somehow does not entirely coincide with the previous statement of Syria that the strike was delivered from the territory of Lebanon.
          Judging by the published videos of the blow, well, the blow was by no means 4 rockets.
          In general, all the vehicles are usually - missiles are shot down - targets are destroyed.
          In 2 days we will receive photos from the places.

          ... True, it is very interesting who and For What minus you so abundantly! For the question? IMHO pertinent ...
          hi
          1. 0
            10 October 2021 15: 41
            Quote: AAG
            You've been minus so abundantly!

            Anti-Semites for being a Jew. And leavened patriots, for being against the grain. This is a common occurrence here.
            If you want a plus sign, you have to keep pace.
      2. +3
        10 October 2021 06: 59
        Quote: PiK
        you need to know how many air defense missile systems were involved

        It is said in the singular.
        1. +5
          10 October 2021 07: 04
          Quote: Dart2027
          It is said in the singular.


          Well, then the result of the complex's work is "8 of 12"quite worthy Yes

          The only pity is that only one machine is involved, and not several ...
          After all, even one of the "missed" missiles is capable of causing trouble.
          1. -7
            10 October 2021 07: 06
            Quote: PiK
            Well, then the result of the work of the complex is "8 out of 12", quite worthy

            the result of the air defense is not the number of downed, but whether the object is protected or not.
            so here is the result for 2, the object is destroyed, the bait is shot down.
            1. +5
              10 October 2021 07: 18
              Where did you get it from?) Do you know the result? Target? Why are 8 missiles letting go of the idea?)
              1. -4
                10 October 2021 09: 27
                Quote: carstorm 11
                Target? Why are 8 missiles letting go of the idea?)

                And the thought that these were false missiles to deceive the air defense did not you think about that?
                I'm not saying that it was not enough, as it was stated, there were much more explosions at the base than 4
                1. +4
                  10 October 2021 13: 13
                  Quote: atalef
                  And the thought that these were false missiles to deceive the air defense did not you think about that?

                  These are not false missiles, dear, these are redundant missiles, since the Israelis clearly expected such a result and were forced to fire as many as 4 on a target that could be hit by 12 missiles so that a sufficient number could break through. This is also a tactic, but I had to overspend ammunition, and this is also not a very good result.
            2. +15
              10 October 2021 07: 22
              Quote: atalef
              the result of the air defense is not the number of downed, but whether the object is protected or not.


              Who can argue, then? request

              Moreover, everyone is still hearing the epic work of The Leaky Dome ...

              And at the same time it should be noted that your "Zhelezyaka" suffered a fiasco when using deshman sewer pipes, and a single "Pantsir-S" with a certain degree of reliability worked with a result of "8-12". And not by flying telegraph poles, but by your completely modern missiles.
              And if we take into account that the missiles were used in conjunction with "bogus", then it is clear that our air defense missile system performed quite well in single combat one against six ...
              1. -2
                10 October 2021 08: 16
                Vadim Kulit made a worthy performance. but it can name any numbers launched and intercepted. there are no restrictions on the ceiling
                the main thing is that the quantity
                missiles launched (and often intercepted) were multiples of four. this is some kind of mystical meaning. and so that the sum of the knocked down
                was no more neglected. but this is optional .
                1. +9
                  10 October 2021 08: 19
                  Quote: sidoroff
                  he can name any numbers launched and intercepted. there are no restrictions on the ceiling


                  Okay - he, this is him ...

                  But the question is - what numbers do you have?
                  1. -9
                    10 October 2021 08: 47
                    without arithmetic - the state of the object "before" and "after". already posted, like. as well as the doctor's stories that the treatment went
                    successfully, and the patient was sweating profusely. but alas ..
                    1. +8
                      10 October 2021 08: 58
                      Quote: sidoroff
                      sort of


                      I'm not talking about you - "if only"asked, but about the real numbers and data ...

                      And so, in all things, you - sidoroff , ff you're lying Yes
                      1. -9
                        10 October 2021 09: 07
                        was 14 f16, 12 f15. 71 missiles launched, 1 shot down.
                        finished the report. refute.
                        1. +10
                          10 October 2021 09: 17
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          was 14 f16, 12 f15. 71 missiles launched, 1 shot down.
                          finished the report. refute.

                          Vasily, what's wrong with your life?
                        2. -4
                          10 October 2021 09: 55
                          uh ... except for the priests in the state
                          Air defense brought in a psychologist?
                          or do you combine?
                        3. +5
                          10 October 2021 10: 03
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          uh ... except for the priests in the state
                          Air defense brought in a psychologist?

                          YOU, I will not watch for free No.

                          Hard case Yes
                        4. -2
                          10 October 2021 10: 15
                          holy father. accustomed to taking bribes for everything.
                        5. +8
                          10 October 2021 10: 17
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          uh ... except for the priests in the state
                          Air defense brought in a psychologist?
                          or do you combine?

                          sidoroff, you are the main thing, in the basements of the Pentagon do not overdo it with Smirnoff, otherwise you will chase the Chukchi! laughing
                        6. +4
                          10 October 2021 10: 21
                          Quote: sabakina
                          sidoroff, you are the main thing, in the basements of the Pentagon do not overdo it with Smirnoff, otherwise you will chase the Chukchi!


                          Noo No. , there is "White Eagle" Yes

                        7. -5
                          10 October 2021 10: 27
                          smirnoff? fi.
                        8. 0
                          10 October 2021 13: 17
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          smirnoff? fi.

                          That's right - your choice is glass, loosened with brake fluid)))) Then lit with bamboo)))
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                        11. +2
                          10 October 2021 13: 16
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          was 14 f16, 12 f15. 71 missiles launched, 1 shot down.
                          finished the report. refute.

                          I still, according to Jewish tradition, will answer questions to the question - and the data from where? From a camel? if from him, then there are no questions)))) Smoke bamboo further)
                        12. -4
                          10 October 2021 14: 19
                          from him, darling. me one bait, Kulit another. what to take with a humpback?
                        13. +1
                          10 October 2021 14: 20
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          from him, darling. me one bait

                          Okay, okay, what about Napoleon from the neighboring chamber of the bait, please do not tell))))
                        14. -2
                          10 October 2021 17: 59
                          Napoleon? but I thought - Cool. (
                        15. 0
                          10 October 2021 18: 51
                          Quote: sidoroff
                          but I thought - Cool. (

                          That is, do you agree with the neighboring chamber? Then there are no questions for you, health to you. good luck! hi
                        16. -1
                          10 October 2021 20: 15
                          what to cook in the next room? of course I agree.
                          and through the wall of Konashenki.
              2. -2
                10 October 2021 22: 46
                where are there any facts of the unsuccessful work of the iron dome? except for the usual words in the Russian press. where is an example of any significant damage from that shelling? and words are just words. gave an order to the editor - the couch Internet fighters scribbled it.
            3. +1
              10 October 2021 07: 28
              Quote: atalef
              object destroyed

              Exactly? Can you provide evidence?
              1. +4
                10 October 2021 08: 55
                Quote: Seryoga64
                Exactly? Can you provide evidence

                Minusa, this is clearly not evidence laughing
            4. D16
              +11
              10 October 2021 09: 13
              the result of the air defense is not the number of downed, but whether the object is protected or not.

              Under these conditions, the object will be destroyed sooner or later. Simply because the funds are smeared over the country's facilities in an even, very thin layer. In the absence of a radar field, air defense systems cannot operate in the 7x24 mode. Their resource is finite. The result of the air defense work is gained time, allowing to strike back. If the Syrian "Points U" did not arrive at Israeli targets, then the results of the raid are acceptable to both sides. When they arrive, we will evaluate the effectiveness of Israel's air defense. laughing
              1. -2
                10 October 2021 11: 19
                Syrian "Points U" will never fly, so that Israel is not greatly offended, if anything. They can come up with an operation and generally smash all the air defenses of Syria and much more they want. Israel's capabilities are many times higher than all of Syria and those Russian aerospace forces that are located there.
                1. -1
                  10 October 2021 17: 39
                  The Israelis can, of course, do a lot of things, but for some reason they do little. They are slowly gnawed from all sides, and they sit in passive defense.
                  resembles a bear in a den lined with dogs. The bear sticks out its paw, periodically slapping the dogs on the muzzles, and the dogs also periodically bite the bear.
                  The only problem is that the bear has already been driven and that he is passive and initiative of those same dogs.

                  Of course, I'm sad, because my dad lives in Haifa. But it is clear that Israel's collapse is inevitable. And it is a pity, because this state is the most adequate in the BV and negotiable.
                2. D16
                  +3
                  10 October 2021 21: 32
                  Until the Jews crossed some red line, they will not fly.
                  They can come up with an operation and generally smash all the air defenses of Syria and much more they want.

                  Israel's capabilities are many times higher than all of Syria and those Russian aerospace forces that are located there.

                  "This dude sits in a pool of his urine and vomit for XNUMX hours. If he was alive, he would get up and leave" (c)
              2. +3
                10 October 2021 13: 18
                Quote: D16
                Under these conditions, the object will be destroyed sooner or later. Simply because the funds are smeared over the country's facilities in an even, very thin layer.

                And where to get a sufficient amount of air defense weapons without a sufficient amount of money?
                1. D16
                  +2
                  10 October 2021 21: 40
                  Offer Iran to organize its analogue of Khmeimim in Syria at some of the air bases. With his blackjack and low social responsibility girls laughing ... And let Iran protect him, and Israel demolishes at least every day.
                  1. +5
                    10 October 2021 21: 43
                    Quote: D16
                    Offer Iran to organize its analogue of Khmeimim in Syria at some of their airbases. With their own blackjack and low social responsibility girls. And let Iran protect him, and Israel demolishes at least every day.

                    Well, Iran is constantly organizing there, and Israel is already demolishing ... Plus, to all of us, Iran in Syria, I repeat, is not needed, since in fact it is our enemy, who is a very temporary and very shaky ally, and then only on the basis of grater from the USA ...
                    1. D16
                      +4
                      10 October 2021 21: 53
                      Well, Iran is constantly organizing there, and Israel is already demolishing ... Plus, to all of us, Iran in Syria, I repeat, is not needed, since in fact it is our enemy, who is a very temporary and very shaky ally, and then only on the basis of grater from the USA ..

                      Is the Syrian air defense blown away? No really. If you want to destroy Israel, the flag is in your hands. But yourself.
                      Iran is interesting to us because it does not dance to the tune of the United States and the EU. People are difficult, remember the past, but definitely not Balts or velikokry.
            5. +6
              10 October 2021 09: 22
              What object, specifically? The airfield has ceased to exist? Planes on the ground or radars or command post destroyed?
              I do not exclude that the amount of material damage is lower than the cost of the fired Israeli missiles.
              Oh yes, 6 more wounded soldiers. And in order to kill six of them, more missiles were needed.
              Each soldier gets a personal rocket. Plus two more - to divert air defense assets.
              Perhaps, with such "efficiency" of hostilities, no military budget will suffice. Even like the Pentagon, to win a final victory over the Muslims that breed like insects.
              It's time to sympathize with the poor Jews.
            6. +4
              10 October 2021 13: 11
              Quote: atalef
              air defense result

              Dear Alexander! Please do not confuse air defense (system) with one installation! If there was just a normal air defense, there would be at least 5 shells. And one single installation on such an important object is clearly not from a good life.
          2. -17
            10 October 2021 07: 10
            Quote: PiK
            It's a pity that only one machine is involved, and not several

            Of course, but what prevented you from using several?
            1. -23
              10 October 2021 07: 14
              Quote: atalef
              Quote: PiK
              It's a pity that only one machine is involved, and not several

              Of course, but what prevented you from using several?

              Religion forbade. wassat
              Soon there will be satellite images, let's laugh.
              1. +3
                10 October 2021 13: 19
                Quote: professor
                Soon there will be satellite images, let's laugh.

                And if they don’t?
              2. -4
                10 October 2021 18: 23
                Quote: professor
                Soon there will be satellite images, let's laugh.

                There will be no satellite images, representatives of the Russian Defense Ministry asked "not to tease the geese."

                Russian military aircraft Tu-134AK with tail number RA-65992 landed on Thursday, 29.04.2021/27/XNUMX, at Tel Aviv airport. This is the second arrival of the plane to Israel this week - in the afternoon of April XNUMX, it also flew to Tel Aviv's Ben Gurion Airport and less than a couple of hours later went to the Russian Khmeimim airbase in Syria.
                Since then, ISI has not published photos in open media. , which makes such statements possible.
                But this does not affect the fulfillment of the assigned task for the IDF Air Force.
                "WHY THE CHILD WASN'T WORTHYING ..."
            2. +5
              10 October 2021 07: 19
              Well, for example, the lack of them in the right amount.
            3. +5
              10 October 2021 07: 29
              Quote: atalef
              Of course, but what prevented you from using several?

              Their presence in the troops
            4. +5
              10 October 2021 09: 19
              Do you think that in poverty-stricken war-torn Syria, there is a Carapace at every corner - use it, I don’t want to?
              The question, of course, is rhetorical, there is no need to answer.
            5. +2
              10 October 2021 13: 19
              Quote: atalef
              Of course, but what prevented you from using several?

              Well, I don't even know directly, probably their absence?
          3. +2
            10 October 2021 08: 06
            Quote: PiK
            Well, then the result of the work of the complex is "8 out of 12", quite worthy

            66,6% at the same time do not forget that this is a stripped-down export version.
            1. +3
              10 October 2021 08: 13
              Quote: figvam
              66,6% at the same time do not forget that this is a stripped-down export version.


              And remember that only one crew worked ...

              There would be 2-3 of them, and the result would be different ...
      3. -1
        10 October 2021 07: 23
        Quote: PiK
        you need to know how many air defense missile systems were involved.

        And real combat experience of calculations
        If this is the first fight, then it is quite good
      4. +2
        10 October 2021 07: 39
        Quote: PiK
        The result, of course, is not 100%, but for an objective assessment of the efficiency of the "Pantsir-S" operation, you need to know how many air defense missile systems were used.

        And in which air defense system ...
        Syrian air defense missile system "Pantsir-S" intercepted Israeli missiles

        Our bull is one of the first at the exhibition.
        And at first they shouted - as if defective,
        But they woke up - and now they gave the prize:
        All in medals, he lies packed.

        The Pantsir complex is not bad in efficiency.
        And in Jerusalem they shouted - as if he was defective,
        Demonstrated the video for objectivity ...
      5. -3
        10 October 2021 13: 13
        Even taking that information into account ... 66 percent efficiency, right. Weak, the ads were better.
        Someone here laughed at 90 percent of Kipat barzel, and in fact everyone observed that even 10 percent posed a decent threat, and 66 percent was a "failure". It's hard to say whose.
    2. -8
      10 October 2021 06: 56
      Vadim Kulit regularly announces the successes of the Syrian air defense. The reliability of the statements of the representative of the Russian command is questionable. He, like the Syrian military, often talks about intercepting all or almost all of the Israeli missiles, but later it usually turns out that all the targets were hit.

      A number of Middle Eastern media outlets clarify that as a result of an airstrike on the T-4 military airfield located in the Homs area, two pro-Iranian militias who were not citizens of Syria were killed.

      Reports indicate that the number of casualties from this airstrike is likely to increase as there are many casualties, some of whom are in critical condition.

      In addition, it is noted that as a result of the airstrike, significant damage was caused to the base where the pro-Iranian militias were trained in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles. UAV launch platforms and several UAVs were destroyed.
      1. +6
        10 October 2021 06: 59
        What's wrong? 4 missiles broke through and there are wounded, he said. That is, as your media! So doubts are you.
        1. -9
          10 October 2021 07: 03
          Quote: Fungus
          What's wrong? 4 missiles broke through and there are wounded, he said. That is, as your media! So doubts are you

          yes everything is not so
          As a result of hitting six Syrian soldiers were injured, there is damage on the territory of the airfield with little damage property of the Syrian army.

          And in real life, killed by Iranian proxies and significant damage to objects.
          And so everything too. laughing
          1. +7
            10 October 2021 07: 07
            What objects where? laughing You can talk a lot of things.
            1. -14
              10 October 2021 07: 17
              Quote: Fungus
              What objects where? laughing You can talk a lot of things.

              Well, do you have any doubts whether there was a blow at all?
              belay
              1. +5
                10 October 2021 07: 51
                There was no doubt. After all, 4 out of 12 missiles hit targets all the same. What is said in the article.
                1. +6
                  10 October 2021 10: 18
                  Quote: Fungus
                  4 missiles out of 12 hit targets all the same.


                  Do I need to remind you that "hitting" (hitting) a target (probably an engineering protected one) and destroying it are not the same thing?
          2. +5
            10 October 2021 13: 22
            Quote: atalef
            And in real life, killed by Iranian proxies and significant damage to objects.

            Iiii? Six of the Syrians were wounded, and the property belonging to the Syrian army was slightly damaged. And who is interested in a bombed out shed with Iranian "volunteers"? Iran in Syria Russia needs no more than Israel)
            1. -4
              10 October 2021 13: 25
              Uh-huh, and in a week the names of these young professors - volunteers will emerge ... along with the rest of the equipment.
              1. +3
                10 October 2021 14: 16
                Quote: Shahno
                Uh-huh, and in a week the names of these young professors - volunteers will emerge ... along with the rest of the equipment.

                Which professors? What kind of equipment? Let's be specific, otherwise you have a "program" The Unknown and Incomprehensible "and you, its host - Gunther Cosmos!"
      2. +18
        10 October 2021 07: 03
        Quote: A. Privalov
        significant damage was caused to the base on which the pro-Iranian militias were trained in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles. Drone launch platforms and several UAVs were destroyed

        It turns out that someone handed over the pro-Iranians. T-4 just like that from Israel is not visible
        1. +3
          10 October 2021 07: 22
          Quote: sakuz
          It turns out that someone handed over the pro-Iranians. T-4 just like that from Israel is not visible

          Someone who. American satellites. That's who.
          1. -4
            10 October 2021 08: 22
            firstly, we have our own. secondly, there are also drones, and thirdly, there is someone to look at from the ground.
        2. -3
          10 October 2021 08: 16
          Quote: sakuz
          It turns out that someone handed over the pro-Iranians. T-4 just like that from Israel is not visible

          The reconnaissance satellite has passed, everything can be seen from the satellite.
      3. +14
        10 October 2021 07: 09
        Quote: A. Privalov
        The reliability of the statements of the representative of the Russian command is questionable. He, like the Syrian military, often talks about intercepting all or almost all of the Israeli missiles, but later it usually turns out that all the targets were hit.


        You, like that American admiral from the Desert Storm period:

        “The statements of the Iraqi side about the interception and destruction of the coalition's aircraft and cruise missiles are more than untrue.

        I declare with authority and responsibility that all aircraft, helicopters and cruise missiles safely, without damage, we returned to their bases - field airfields and ships. "
        1. -11
          10 October 2021 07: 24
          Quote: PiK
          You, like that American admiral,

          Unfortunately, I am not a general. The comment above even lacks my personal opinion. I just retold the message of the Arab media quite close to the text, but they, as you know, have not been noticed in a special love for Israel, on the contrary. It's just that the admiral is obliged to praise Russian weapons in every possible way, but the Arabs are not. The weapon is probably good, only the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners do not demonstrate this. Either the skill is weak, or something else, alas ... hi
          1. +9
            10 October 2021 07: 45
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Unfortunately, I am not a general.


            Well, let's give praise to Yahweh, for the fact that you are not a general Yes Yes
          2. +3
            10 October 2021 08: 51
            Quote: A. Privalov
            Only the Syrian anti-aircraft gunners do not demonstrate this. Either the training is weak, or something else, alas.

            Or maybe there is a simple calculation. Only 4 targets can fire the Shell at the same time. Carapace manages to serve four pairs, there is no time left for two pairs. I think they know how to count in Israel, because they guessed 12 missiles per Armor
      4. 0
        10 October 2021 10: 20

        A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
        Today, 06: 56
        -9
        Vadim Kulit regularly announces the successes of the Syrian air defense. The reliability of the statements of the representative of the Russian command is questionable.
        your unfounded statement is a common lie. blow in your ears there! tongue fool laughing
    3. -18
      10 October 2021 07: 04
      Syrian air defense missile system "Pantsir-S" intercepted Israeli missiles

      Not "rockets" but "decoys". Targets on the ground were destroyed. The air defense worked perfectly well. - They shot the ammunition, but could not provide the defense. Offset !!! good

      On October 21, at 33:16, six F-XNUMX tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force crossing the state border of the SAR ...

      What? Not from Lebanon? What a twist.... wassat
      1. +10
        10 October 2021 07: 28
        Quote: professor
        Not "rockets" but "decoys".


        Professor, is it only you who are so advanced, or the entire military science of Israel has reached such magnitudes that it is capable of, as they say - "on the fly" to recognize the characteristic of the target in the "decoy missile" part?
        1. -13
          10 October 2021 08: 29
          Quote: PiK
          Quote: professor
          Not "rockets" but "decoys".


          Professor, is it only you who are so advanced, or the entire military science of Israel has reached such magnitudes that it is capable of, as they say - "on the fly" to recognize the characteristic of the target in the "decoy missile" part?

          I don’t know about Israeli science, but the Shell is not able to distinguish between a decoy and even an airplane, and therefore it “successfully shoots down missiles,” and the target is destroyed.
          1. +7
            10 October 2021 08: 32
            Quote: professor
            Shell unable to discern bait and even a plane


            Duc, name the same, that advanced miracle unit, which able to discern false and real purpose ...

            Otherwise, it comes out like in a song:

            "Dad can, dad can - whatever"...

            And what is "daddy"? request , you don't call No. , limiting itself only to the fact that "Pantsir-S" does not know how to do this ...
            1. -18
              10 October 2021 08: 38
              Quote: PiK
              Quote: professor
              Shell unable to discern bait and even a plane


              Duc, name the same, that advanced miracle unit, which able to discern false and real purpose ...

              Otherwise, it comes out like in a song:

              "Dad can, dad can - whatever"...

              And what is "daddy"? request , you don't call No. , limiting himself only to the fact that "Pantsir-S" does not know how to do this ...

              I have no idea. So far, the inability of the Carapace is evident.
              1. +13
                10 October 2021 08: 41
                Quote: professor
                I have no idea... So far, the inability of the Carapace is evident.


                Phenomenal revelation Yes - "I have not read, but I condemn" laughing

                Class good
                1. +5
                  10 October 2021 08: 57
                  Quote: PiK
                  "I have not read, but I condemn"

                  More Soviet school laughing
                  1. +12
                    10 October 2021 09: 40
                    Quote: Seryoga64
                    More Soviet school


                    They have a Soviet, left like an old Jew from a flute - a crumpled case ...
                    1. +6
                      10 October 2021 09: 45
                      Quote: PiK
                      like an old Jew

                      So he is old, he remembers all the bad, but he forgot all the good
                    2. +3
                      10 October 2021 10: 27
                      Peak
                      Today, 09: 40
                      NEW

                      +3
                      Quote: Seryoga64
                      More Soviet school


                      They have a Soviet, left like an old Jew from a flute - a crumpled case ...
                      .... eaten by rats, and beaten by a barbecue! wink
                  2. +6
                    10 October 2021 15: 36
                    These are the "Soviet" ones with Jewish roots, and they derban the remains of the USSR to this day! hi
                2. +4
                  10 October 2021 10: 26
                  Peak
                  Today, 08: 41
                  NEW

                  +8
                  Quote: professor
                  I have no idea. So far, the inability of the Carapace is evident.


                  Phenomenal revelation yes - "I have not read, but I condemn" laughing

                  Good class
                  yeah yeah! answer aboutхfesura - utter mortality !!! fell asleep - there is nowhere! laughing
                3. -9
                  10 October 2021 11: 51
                  Quote: PiK
                  Quote: professor
                  I have no idea... So far, the inability of the Carapace is evident.


                  Phenomenal revelation Yes - "I have not read, but I condemn" laughing

                  Class good

                  We are discussing the Carapace, not a spherical horse in a vacuum. The carapace was unable to protect the target, and not a hypothetical air defense system.
              2. +7
                10 October 2021 10: 24

                Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                Today 08:38 ... I have no idea. So far, the inability of the Carapace is evident.
                laughing fool laughing what, the training manuals were blown away? laughing Nothing else to dilute your Baidu? tongue fool
                1. +6
                  10 October 2021 13: 27
                  Quote: aszzz888
                  what, the training manuals were blown away? Nothing else to dilute your Baidu?

                  You haven't seen yet what enchanting arguments Prof cited as proof of the alleged inability of the Russian KAZ to work in the upper hemisphere of the protected armored vehicle ... There was a baida so baida)))))
                  1. +1
                    11 October 2021 10: 18

                    Albert1988 (Eugene)
                    Yesterday, 13: 27

                    +5
                    Quote: aszzz888
                    what, the training manuals were blown away? Nothing else to dilute your Baidu?

                    You haven't seen yet what enchanting arguments Prof cited as proof of the alleged inability of the Russian KAZ to work in the upper hemisphere of the protected armored vehicle ... There was a baida so baida)))))
                    hi ! Hello. This prof. on VO this chibuchit - not every "voice", "echo", or what "jellyfish" is capable of such! wink Cheap PR designed for amateurs, or a narrow-minded public in their kitsubas.
                    1. -1
                      11 October 2021 20: 37
                      Quote: aszzz888
                      ! Hello. This prof. on VO this chibuchit - not every "voice", "echo", or what "jellyfish" is capable of such! Cheap PR designed for amateurs, or a narrow-minded public in their kitzubas.

                      In general, this behavior of Prof is very strange - I have known him for 9 years (at first I was a reader on the site for a year), and so - he did NOT write this before! This is somewhere around 2014 -2015 Prof has somehow changed a lot ...
        2. -9
          10 October 2021 08: 39
          Quote: PiK

          Professor, is it only you that are so advanced, or has the entire military science of Israel reached such magnitudes that it is capable, as they say - "on the fly" to recognize the characteristics of the target in the "decoy missile" part?

          Second option. The introduction of self-learning algorithms, and the ability to update systems at the pace of applications on a smartphone, opened up new horizons. Such systems are able to perform calculations in seconds, on which a human operator spends an ineffective amount of time. This is especially noticeable in radar and electronic warfare systems. Detuning from enemy interference and / or calculating enemy radar algorithms for jamming. When confronting systems belonging to the previous technological generation, it does not present any difficulties.
          A more powerful computer and better software will always win. This is an axiom of cybernetics.
          For effective confrontation, the Syrians need systems that are technologically equal to the attacking systems. And the S-500 is unlikely to be presented to them.
          Although this is not a panacea.
        3. +6
          10 October 2021 08: 57
          Quote: PiK
          "on the fly" to recognize the characteristics of the target in the "decoy missile" part?

          Tuta is much cooler. The military science of Israel knows for sure that it is the missile with the warhead that will reach the goal, and the bait will be shot down and nothing else.
          1. +7
            10 October 2021 09: 56
            Quote: Tusv
            Tuta is much cooler. The military science of Israel knows for sure that it is the missile with the warhead that will reach the goal, and the bait will be shot down and nothing else.


            No matter how they themselves get confused - "what is what", and did not equip all planes exclusively with false targets wassat laughing
    4. +24
      10 October 2021 07: 13
      The article just came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lie laughing They are on guard specifically or something.
      1. +16
        10 October 2021 07: 23
        Well, it is necessary to prove to everyone in Russia that they are also warriors of the world. Sofas need to be warmed up sometimes)
      2. +14
        10 October 2021 07: 25
        Quote: Fungus
        The article just came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble

        Since 6 in the morning they have not slept, they are looking for where to shit.
      3. -13
        10 October 2021 07: 29
        And what else to do if you are still lying.
        And constantly.
        1. +2
          10 October 2021 15: 39
          The shrieking "vyvseretii" is a dumb excuse! And in no way reflects the correctness of the screaming! hi
      4. +11
        10 October 2021 07: 33
        Quote: Fungus
        Just an article came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lying laughing A guard specifically or something.


        "Torn by vague doubts" Yes that they have already been notified in advance by someone from the editorial board of VO about the release of an article in one way or another concerning the subject of Israel ...
        1. -4
          10 October 2021 09: 36
          Quote: PiK
          Quote: Fungus
          Just an article came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lying laughing A guard specifically or something.


          "Torn by vague doubts" Yes that they have already been notified in advance by someone from the editorial board of VO about the release of an article in one way or another concerning the subject of Israel ...

          You need to know the enemy and learn military art in a real way - before poking your fingers at Klava - find out and find out, we have a regular working day on Sunday and we start early.
          There is time to read on the way to work.
          1. +5
            10 October 2021 10: 37

            atalef (alexander)
            Today, 09: 36
            NEW

            -3
            Quote: PiK
            Quote: Fungus
            Just an article came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lying laughing A guard specifically or something.


            "There are vague doubts" yes, that they have already been notified in advance by someone from the editorial board of VO about the release of an article in one way or another concerning the subject of Israel ...

            You need to know the enemy and learn military art in a real way - before poking your fingers at Klava - find out and find out, we have a regular working day on Sunday and we start early.
            this is noticeable in the posts. You "start" to shit on the Russian Federation very early! wassat
      5. -18
        10 October 2021 08: 02
        Quote: Fungus
        The article just came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lie laughing They are on guard specifically or something.

        As I read in the morning news that in Russia almost 1000 (!) People died from covid in a day, I could not fall asleep anymore. (I know a little about the statistics there. There may be many more victims) What a horror! And then, it turned out that in the Russian Federation over the past year, only from fake vodka 10 (ten thousand, Max!) Were bent, and these are only those who were officially registered! ...
        After that, what kind of Syrian troubles to disassemble? Take care of yourself there! Save you, L-rd.
        1. +9
          10 October 2021 08: 38
          Crawled to feed
        2. +6
          10 October 2021 08: 39
          What does covid and alcohol have to do with it?
          1. -6
            10 October 2021 09: 10
            Quote: Fungus
            What does covid and alcohol have to do with it?

            Yes, despite the fact that you are worried about some Iranians in Syria, thousands of kilometers from your home, and you don't give a penny to yourself and your compatriots.
            Why did these "Syrian brothers" surrender to you? For the seventh (!) Year the old rake haunts?
            After all, they will again spit on the trail of your soldiers and, according to a well-known tradition, they will show you the door not today or tomorrow. And you will be offended again, they say, we shed blood for them, buried our children, and they, bastards not grateful, did this to us ...
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        3. +11
          10 October 2021 09: 11
          I noticed that as soon as they start poking you into something (note, on the Russian patriotic resource), then immediately scribble comments about the social sphere, our infrastructure, our infrastructure, and so on. Is everything good in Israel ??? We know for ourselves, look at your country first of all, the regional gopnik is behaving. Tell us how many (well, three years) there were attacks by Syria on Israel and how many Israel on Syria. Compare, and then scribble your posts. You are an ordinary regional "courtyard gopnik". Forgot the story with Il, when your frightened general staff (practically all of them) flew to Moscow with explanations? Because the gopnik realized that they could not give a sickly score on the scoreboard.
          1. -4
            10 October 2021 09: 35
            Quote: Okolotochny
            I noticed that as soon as they start poking you into something (note, on the Russian patriotic resource), then immediately scribble comments about the social sphere, our infrastructure, our infrastructure, and so on. Is everything good in Israel ??? We know for ourselves, look at your country first of all, the regional gopnik is behaving. Tell us how many (well, three years) there were attacks by Syria on Israel and how many Israel on Syria. Compare, and then scribble your posts. You are an ordinary regional "courtyard gopnik". Forgot the story with Il, when your frightened general staff (practically all of them) flew to Moscow with explanations? Because the gopnik realized that they could not give a sickly score on the scoreboard.

            You have a great social network and excellent infrastructure. Has it become easier? More pleasant?

            You dragged thousands of kilometers away to fight the bandits, among whom there are tens of thousands of your own compatriots. Motivated by the fact that if you do not beat them there, they will bring terror to Russia. You have been stuck there for the seventh year already, three times everyone there was defeated and two times they were allegedly taken out, but everything was useless.
            Israel, on the other hand, cares about its safety not for thousands of kilometers, but under my windows. Apparently, it will continue to do so in the future.

            It is a pity for the Russians who died, but there are claims to your "Syrian brothers" - the curved anti-aircraft gunners, who began stupid firing in different directions when the Israeli planes had already returned home. Just don't start telling nonsense here about how supersonic fighters hid behind a civilian slug. It's not even funny anymore.
            1. 0
              10 October 2021 11: 16
              It will feed now, it will go to eat fat
            2. +2
              10 October 2021 13: 29
              Quote: A. Privalov
              You have a great social network and excellent infrastructure. Has it become easier? More pleasant?

              And the covid is just hellish ... Apparently from a good social network and infrastructure ...
              1. -5
                10 October 2021 13: 37
                You understand. It's kind of a different question about covid ... Not to the social sphere, and economic development, don't you think so? I hint, Orthodox Hasidim, Arab illegal settlements ...
                1. +4
                  10 October 2021 13: 40
                  Quote: Shahno
                  You understand. It's kind of a different question about covid ... Not to the social sphere, and economic development, don't you think so?

                  And I, naive, thought that the more developed the social system and the economy in the country, the more forces and resources the country can throw to fight such an epidemic, and the more effective such a fight will be ... How am I, dark and uneducated, was wrong! I'm going to eat my PhD!
                  Quote: Shahno
                  I hint, Orthodox Hasidim, Arab illegal settlements ...

                  Oh, and this, it turns out, does not depend on social, economy and infrastructure? "That's how it is, Mikhlych!"
                  1. -5
                    10 October 2021 14: 06
                    Uh-huh, you can add it to your doctorate. That secular law is not written to our orthodox people ...
                    1. +4
                      10 October 2021 14: 18
                      Quote: Shahno
                      Uh-huh, you can add it to your doctorate. That secular law is not written to our orthodox people ..

                      Or maybe add there that the vaunted pfizer turned out to be completely powerless against the delta?
                      1. -3
                        10 October 2021 16: 17
                        It's not clear yet. There were no serious reports. But the fact that the "wave" is declining is a fact. And there are relatively few deaths.
                        1. +4
                          10 October 2021 17: 27
                          Quote: Shahno
                          It's not clear yet. There were no serious reports. But the fact that the "wave" is declining is a fact. And there are relatively few deaths.

                          Well, my relatives in Tel Aviv somehow have a different opinion about the situation - in short - everything is very bad and becomes even shittier.
                        2. -4
                          10 October 2021 17: 31
                          I have already mentioned what is my position on the personal opinion of the individual .. As if yes, it is interesting, but I do not want to prove it.
                        3. +5
                          10 October 2021 18: 56
                          Quote: Shahno
                          I have already mentioned what is my position on the personal opinion of the individual .. As if yes, it is interesting, but I do not want to prove it.

                          Oha, you brought tsifiri zryaplat, but tsifiri store prices - no)))) For proof does not pull))) And "individuals" go to the store every day, both in Tel Aviv and in Moscow, as they come (every new year - show daughters winter with snow, because they like it madly) and can thus compare prices there and there. The verdict is that the ratio of prices and wages is absolutely the same ...
            3. +6
              10 October 2021 14: 14
              What is the topic of the article? Russian social sphere? Or that Carapace was at work? Yes, yes, as your Professor says "Russian Air Defense Sucks." Well, yes, that your pilots sneak like burglars. It is not necessary to translate the topic so "technically, in ... Israeli". What are our people doing in Syria? Protect the interests of the Russian Federation. Which? Do you care? To whom claims for the downed Il? The thief's hat is on fire. Once again, why almost all of your General Staff flew to Moscow with explanations and was sent to Shoigu on foot? I don’t know who is to blame. And yours came running because they were afraid of the answer. This fact. For "sloppy air defense" - do you have that? Comment on this.
            4. +5
              10 October 2021 15: 43
              Didn't forget to add that many Russian are no longer oligarchs but like "businessmen" - also Jews who continue to plunder the population of Russia in a variety of ways, legalized by them? THIS IS OTHER?
              1. -3
                10 October 2021 16: 22
                Quote: VORON538
                Didn't forget to add that many Russian are no longer oligarchs but like "businessmen" - also Jews who continue to plunder the population of Russia in a variety of ways, legalized by them? THIS IS OTHER?

                Accordingly, is any Jew obliged to answer for this?
                1. +5
                  10 October 2021 16: 28
                  How to attack and rob, so you have a brotherhood, but to answer alone ... Expectedly. Only the history of mankind shows that such an excuse is sometimes the indigenous population ... there was a "lioness", so she gave the go-ahead to her driver to get out of the oncoming lane. She says she doesn't remember anything, left the scene of the accident, why should she worry about some mortals. Approving the bombing and robbery of other states shouldn't answer? Or "THIS IS OTHER"?
                  1. -1
                    10 October 2021 16: 36
                    Quote: VORON538
                    How to attack and rob, so you have a brotherhood, but to answer alone ... Expectedly. Only the history of mankind shows that such an excuse is sometimes the indigenous population ... there was a "lioness", so she gave the go-ahead to her driver to get out of the oncoming lane. She says she doesn't remember anything, left the scene of the accident, why should she worry about some mortals. Approving the bombing and robbery of other states shouldn't answer? Or "THIS IS OTHER"?

                    DO NOT fool your head, dear, neither yourself nor people. hi
        4. +14
          10 October 2021 09: 14
          Quote: A. Privalov
          As I read in the morning news that in Russia almost 1000 (!) People died from covid in a day, I could not fall asleep anymore.

          Poor people. They have not slept since 2 am, scouring Russian news, looking for some nasty thing about Russia. They read it as if they were "pricked", Euphoria! Already sausage from the buzz. What a dream here.
          That is why I don't give a damn about what is going on inside the "Promised Land"? We are somehow flawed, we do not know how to rejoice in someone else's grief.
          1. +6
            10 October 2021 10: 30

            philistine (andrey)
            Today, 09: 14
            NEW

            +4
            Quote: A. Privalov
            As I read in the morning news that in Russia almost 1000 (!) People died from covid in a day, I could not fall asleep anymore.

            Poor people. They have not slept since 2 am, scouring Russian news, looking for some nasty thing about Russia. They read it as if they were "pricked", Euphoria! Already sausage from the buzz. What a dream here ...
            To do this, they are here and hoof, pouring on the Russian Federation with enthusiasm, otherwise the owners will delay in paying. laughing
        5. +8
          10 October 2021 10: 33

          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
          Today, 08: 02
          NEW

          -11
          Quote: Fungus
          Just an article came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lying laughing A guard specifically or something.

          As I read in the morning news that in Russia almost 1000 (!) People died from covid in a day, I could not fall asleep anymore ...
          You this, do not fall asleep anymore, otherwise you never know - the Russians will again be to blame. Survivor)) you are ours! tongue
        6. +8
          10 October 2021 11: 15
          You worry about Russia all the time, can't you eat? Are you missing your problems?
          Well, are you so killed?
          You won't be killed like that!
          1. +5
            10 October 2021 13: 34
            Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
            You worry about Russia all the time, can't you eat? Are you missing your problems?

            Well, they thought they would leave for Israel, the promised land, they will be covered in chocolate, as a result, the prices are high, you have to work hard, twice as much as here, and even like the locals, except as "Russian saints .... yami" call. So we need to find an outlet - to prove to oneself (and not to us - this is the second time) that everything is worse in the "former Motherland" than in the newly purchased one. This is an absolutely natural and normal psychological defense reaction. We will be aware of the anamnesis and treat with understanding smile
            1. -7
              10 October 2021 13: 47
              // as a result - the prices are high, you have to work hard, twice as much as here //
              I do not want to disappoint you, the prices in relation to the salary are even more favorable than in Moscow.
              Fluently, somewhere twice as expensive in TA, but the average salary is 11000 shekels (230 thousand rubles) ... The average salary in Moscow is around 000 rubles.
              1. +3
                10 October 2021 14: 19
                Quote: Shahno
                I do not want to disappoint you, the prices in relation to the salary are even more favorable than in Moscow.

                Moscow, this is somehow not all of Russia, all of a sudden))) And yes - you can not tell me - my uncles have been living in Tel Aviv for 25 years))))
                1. -4
                  10 October 2021 14: 40
                  They live, so what? I'll give you a figure, and you are my uncle ... So I'm talking about TA and Moscow. Not all regions.
                  1. +3
                    10 October 2021 17: 29
                    Quote: Shahno
                    They live, so what? I'll give you a figure, and you are my uncle ... So I'm talking about TA and Moscow. Not all regions.

                    Bullshit, you are me and not a figure, the ratio of prices to salaries is just like in Moscow darling)))
                    1. -3
                      10 October 2021 17: 40
                      Why not, refute my hypothesis ...
                      And she was next - for a salary in Moscow, you can buy approximately the same benefits as in TA for a salary in TA. Taking into account the purchasing power. I gave you the average values ​​in the population (maybe the median is better).
                      1. +2
                        10 October 2021 17: 44
                        Quote: Shahno
                        Why not, refute my hypothesis ...

                        And what is there to refute - food is almost 1,5 - 2 times more expensive
                        1. -6
                          10 October 2021 17: 55
                          More expensive than what ... The consumer basket in Israel is about 1000 shekels, in Russia 12000 rubles. Iii? What is more expensive than what?
                        2. +3
                          10 October 2021 18: 57
                          Quote: Shahno
                          What is more expensive than what?

                          And you yourself think, count, have you been to Russia for a long time? Have you been in the shops for a long time - to see the real prices?
              2. +2
                10 October 2021 14: 21
                But for some reason the Israelis live no better than the Russians. The same. Judging by the families I know. So it's not about the salary to see it.
                1. -1
                  10 October 2021 21: 14
                  Quote: Fungus
                  But for some reason Israelis live no better than Russians

                  here he is driving laughing
              3. -3
                10 October 2021 16: 43
                Judging by the cons, some have already compared laughing
                1. +2
                  10 October 2021 17: 30
                  Quote: Shahno
                  Judging by the cons, some have already compared

                  They just asked their relatives)))) Are you so naive - do you think that Russians do not have a lot of relatives in the Promised Land?
                  1. 0
                    11 October 2021 06: 48
                    YOURS live in such harsh conditions, your uncles .. For 25 years poor fellow! Maybe it's time to go home, to the birches? to Normal Medicine?
                    1. -1
                      11 October 2021 20: 41
                      Quote: Teptyar
                      YOU live in such harsh conditions, your uncles ..

                      Conditions conditions, medicine medicine, but urolithiasis in Israel threatens almost everyone who drinks the water there without sooo good filtration.
                      Quote: Teptyar
                      For 25 years the poor fellow! Maybe it's time to go home, to the birches? to Normal Medicine?

                      Considering that their grandfather was a doctor here, and his cousin (my grandfather) was also a doctor, then they know what kind of medicine we have. Both say boldly that, of course, God forbid, but it is better to operate oncology in Russia.
                      1. 0
                        12 October 2021 05: 56
                        no words ... found the same - urolithiasis. In some industries, there is no one to work with us. Most of the village-rural part of the country has no idea about the diagnosis and prevention of oncology. People are dying in packs of burning alcohol .. Only 146 million are spread over such an area .. Here are the problems! Which are getting worse.
                        1. 0
                          12 October 2021 21: 51
                          Well, everything is in a bunch)))) Our population has no idea that the brains are dirty with a stupid zombie, from which all sorts of "rent" so fill the average man in the street with information slops that he begins to believe that Bill Gates chips everyone through the covid vaccine , and the covid itself has a "magnetic-wave" nature ... Because of this, the population is poisoned with fired alcohol, that the brains of many have already become "slurry" ...
                        2. 0
                          13 October 2021 08: 51
                          I don't drink at all. I don't watch RenTV. I look around and I see, I see what I see.
                          I also did vaccinations.
                          I'm worried about my country. There is a lot to worry about.
                          Now I began to worry about the Israelis who were very nice to me! Because of you! How people suffer from urolithiasis!
                        3. 0
                          16 October 2021 18: 39
                          Quote: Teptyar
                          I don't drink at all. I don't watch RenTV. I look around and I see, I see what I see.
                          I also did vaccinations.

                          You are triple fellow!
                          Quote: Teptyar
                          I'm worried about my country. There is a lot to worry about.

                          And this is good, because those who do not care are doubly scary ...
                          Quote: Teptyar
                          Now I began to worry about the Israelis who were very nice to me! Because of you!

                          It is not necessary for the Israelis - this is their choice, their country, and far from us, let them live as they want. For me, too, do not need - I am still very young and healthy))))
                          We must worry about those around you, those who have not been vaccinated and are driving the nonsense that "vaccination is chipping, covid is a magnetic wave virus" and other rare nonsense poured into their heads by all sorts of "cluck-klesovy-ram" and their name is legion ...
              4. +5
                11 October 2021 00: 31
                and sho there in a TA with a communal apartment (water, electricity, etc.), taxes?
                what percentage of 11t. shekul remains?laughing
                1. -1
                  11 October 2021 20: 42
                  Quote: Gunter
                  and sho there in a TA with a communal apartment (water, electricity, etc.), taxes?
                  what percentage of 11t. shekul remains?

                  About the same as ours, after all the necessary expenses. One big plus - the mortgage is cheap there, because the housing is "plywood-cardboard", there is no need to heat))))
      6. +9
        10 October 2021 08: 08
        Quote: Fungus
        They are on guard specifically or something.

        They have such a job ...
      7. +6
        10 October 2021 10: 28

        Fungus (Vitiek)
        Today, 07: 13
        +18
        Just an article came out as a detachment from Israel, let's scribble you all lying laughing A guard specifically or something.
        Harch work out! wink
        1. +3
          10 October 2021 14: 17
          Kosher probably. We missed Saturday and today we decided to win back.
    5. +20
      10 October 2021 07: 21
      Well, of course it cannot be that the Russian air defense would shoot down the world's best Jewish missiles. And if something is knocked down, then it's bait. And all the Jews of the forum know this for certain.
      1. -10
        10 October 2021 09: 38
        Quote: sifgame
        Well, of course it cannot be that the Russian air defense would shoot down the world's best Jewish missiles. And if something is knocked down, then it's bait. And all the Jews of the forum know this for certain.

        Well, Karabakh clearly showed you about the effectiveness of air defense.
        1. +5
          10 October 2021 10: 02
          Air defense 60-70-ies mainly to be more precise. No clarity.
        2. +8
          10 October 2021 10: 08
          Well, Karabakh clearly showed you about the effectiveness of air defense.

          Is that about the ineffectiveness of the conduct of hostilities in its absence.
        3. +4
          10 October 2021 18: 23
          Karabakh only showed me that an important part of the weapon is a commander, trained personnel, a fighter, an operator. If you think that what happened in Karabakh reflects the effectiveness of Russian air defense, then that's great. Deceive further in your delusions.
    6. +19
      10 October 2021 07: 23
      Not "rockets", but "decoys"
      Messrs. Jews, when in your cities the home-made products that have flown in explode, does your "dome" also work on baits? Your "proletarian" hatred for Russia is understandable, but it is necessary not only to know the measure, but at least sometimes to be objective.
      1. +8
        10 October 2021 07: 52
        Quote: rotmistr60
        Your "proletarian" hatred for Russia is understandable, but it is necessary not only to know the measure, but at least sometimes to be objective.

        Donbass, two godfathers in embroidered shirts sit in a trench during a separatist attack.
        One of the godfathers, sniffing and sniffing, asks the other:

        - Kum, you sho, did it ???
        - Tse I'm a kind of fierce hatred ...
      2. +3
        10 October 2021 18: 25
        It's impossible)) they will draw any excuse there and for any reason.
    7. +3
      10 October 2021 07: 42
      They also used air defense missiles there. One missile of the S-200 complex fell into Iraq. They also wanted to shoot down the carriers, but did not manage to do it as in 2018.
    8. +7
      10 October 2021 07: 53
      There would have been more missiles shot down by Thor. It has a probability of hitting a target with one missile at least 0,98.
      https://pikabu.ru/story/tor_rasterzaet_50_tseley_za_odin_raz_v_chem_sekret_fenomenalnyikh_sposobnostey_zrk_4084670
      1. +4
        10 October 2021 13: 36
        Quote: riwas
        There would have been more missiles shot down by Thor. It has a probability of hitting a target with one missile at least 0,98.

        Alas, Syria has no money for "tor" (((
    9. -2
      10 October 2021 08: 04
      Well, since some of the missiles have broken through, it means that the air defense forces' outfit does not correspond to the task ...
    10. -22
      10 October 2021 08: 19
      Russian air defense missile systems could not repel the strike of 4 F-16 fighter-bombers.

      It's time to admit it, and not fool people!

      What will happen if the attack is more massive ?! There will be not 4 planes, but 40 at once? Yes, they will erase any of our bases to dust, in a few flights !!!

      For a long time, the couple has already drawn conclusions and take urgent measures, and not boast that some of the missiles have been shot down. If they were shot down at all.

      It is necessary to shoot down planes and do not care from what airspace they strike, from the sea, from Lebanon, Jordan or Israel.

      And for each strike such a blow to respond with a missile strike on the military bases of Israel.

      Otherwise, these Jewish vultures will continue to bomb Syria.

      Russia needs new and more effective air defense systems that operate missiles with active seeker, and it also needs a small and economical AWACS aircraft of the Yak-44 project type to direct air defense missile systems even if enemy aircraft use terrain folds as a cover from the detection of air defense systems radar.

      In the meantime, what Israel is doing in Syria turns into a shame for Russian weapons and for Russia itself.
      1. +2
        10 October 2021 08: 26
        It is necessary to shoot down planes and do not care from what airspace they strike, from the sea, from Lebanon, Jordan or Israel.

        They would have shot them down, but first you have to see them, and this is alas ... therefore there are discrepancies, the Syrians say the strike was from the airspace of Lebanon, our general speaks from the En-Tanf area, Syria. They may have noticed, but late, when they had already shot. Perhaps the F-16s flew at low altitudes ...
      2. +11
        10 October 2021 08: 42
        Russian air defense missile systems could not repel the strike of 4 F-16 fighter-bombers.

        And how many of them were involved there, these same air defense systems? Can the guard scream early? fellow
        1. +5
          10 October 2021 13: 37
          Quote: Ros 56
          And how many of them were involved there, these same air defense systems?

          One piece ...
      3. +2
        10 October 2021 20: 13
        In order to shoot down your planes, not new effective missiles are needed, and what has already been invented and created is enough, but political will.
    11. +12
      10 October 2021 08: 22
      The "Shell" is at war! This is good, even without the values ​​of the efficiency factors. In the conditions of real combat use, "childhood diseases" are very quickly cured and characteristics are finalized. And I propose to skeptics to name the more "belligerent" air defense missile system / air defense system, of the relatively new ones.
      1. -11
        10 October 2021 09: 51
        In the conditions of real combat use, "childhood diseases" are very quickly cured and characteristics are finalized.


        Something is not noticeable that the characteristics of the Shell have increased greatly, the Jews are bombing Syria as they want and where they want.

        If it calms you that there is an air defense system even worse, then I am not. I see that the effectiveness of this complex is insufficient and it cannot repel a missile attack from even a dozen missiles, and if there are hundreds of missiles and more than one wave, then the effectiveness of these air defense missile systems will be generally zero, we will only lose people and equipment that costs a lot of money, we will not counting the objects that they will cover.

        We need new air defense systems, in addition to what we have, MODULAR (in the West, Jews also have such, the same Iron Dome), so that the launcher, radar and command post are separated from the people, so that the crew is not afraid that they will be detected by the radar and will destroy. Then such complexes can be installed directly from the border of the country in several borders. And we urgently need small and economical AWACS aircraft of the Yak-44 type that will detect the enemy in advance and even in the folds of the terrain, and new missiles are needed for air defense missile systems with active seeker (fire-forget) that do not require constant target illumination.

        And what is now is useless, Armor and TORs are of course also needed, but not as the basis of air defense, but as a mobile reserve.

        Otherwise, trouble awaits us. The Jews have already shown that, without losses and special costs, they can both detect and hit our air defense systems and Armor in Syria and the TOP in Nagorno-Karabakh. Our allies are losing not only complexes but also people from being hit by just one missile.

        And if the complex was dispersed in modules, the defeat of the radar would not lead to the death of people, and a separate command post of the air defense system is much easier to disguise on the ground when it is separate from the complex, and not together with missiles that themselves can explode when the complex and the radar are damaged, which is easy to detect by signal.

        It’s time to move and understand that the current air defense system is ineffective and breaks through even with insignificant forces !!! And not write cheerful headlines, like we were bombed, but some of the missiles did not hit the target.

        With the same success, you can write that out of 1000 bullets fired by some bandits, only 5 hit the target, killing only 5 fighters, and all the rest flew past.
        1. +9
          10 October 2021 10: 33
          Only the power shield from the death star will satisfy your requests, and even then, probably, not to the end wink
      2. +7
        10 October 2021 10: 11
        And I propose to skeptics to name the more "belligerent" air defense missile system / air defense system, from the relatively new ones.

        Leaky Cumpol
    12. +9
      10 October 2021 08: 25
      Quote: A. Privalov
      that the airstrike caused significant damage to the base

      1 missile hitting the hangar at the edge of the airfield is "significant" damage ??? Well then, "praise" the pilots of the IDF, I can give a link to the satellite image, the War Journal telegram channel hi
      1. -14
        10 October 2021 08: 34
        Quote: Pytnik
        Quote: A. Privalov
        that the airstrike caused significant damage to the base

        1 missile hitting the hangar at the edge of the airfield is "significant" damage ??? Well then, "praise" the pilots of the IDF, I can give a link to the satellite image, the War Journal telegram channel hi


        London-based monitoring group The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) clarifies that an Israeli airstrike on a T-4 military airfield in the Homs area killed two non-Syrian pro-Iranian militias.

        The report said that the number of casualties from this airstrike is likely to increase as there are many injured, some of whom are in serious condition.

        In addition, it is noted that as a result of the airstrike, significant damage was caused to the base on which the pro-Iranian militias were trained in the use of unmanned aerial vehicles. The drone launch platforms were destroyed.


        The task was not to roll out the entire airbase, but only a warehouse with drones, their launchers and a training center.

        PS
        Satellite images would be appropriate.
        1. +8
          10 October 2021 09: 33

          London-based monitoring group The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) clarifies that an Israeli airstrike on a T-4 military airfield in the Homs area killed two non-Syrian pro-Iranian militias.


          A highly reputable source. No worse than "white helmets" tongue

          From London, of course, you can see everything.
        2. +9
          10 October 2021 09: 35
          London-based monitoring group The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) clarifies ...


          Does it bother you that this organization, which you refer to as a source of information, consists of ONE PERSON who has been living in Britain since 2000?

          Where can he get prompt and accurate information? From YouTube?

          In fact, this is just a propaganda mouthpiece of Western intelligence services through which information that is beneficial to the West is leaked, and then the media refer to this nonsense.
          1. -5
            10 October 2021 11: 42
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            Does it bother you that this organization, which you refer to as a source of information, consists of ONE PERSON who has been living in Britain since 2000?

            No, it doesn't bother. RT has a staff of thousands of people and a billion-dollar budget, but you cannot believe that they broadcast. On the other hand, Abu Ali is "one person", and his information has been confirmed many times.
            1. +7
              10 October 2021 12: 07

              Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
              Today, 11: 42
              NEW

              -1
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              Does it bother you that this organization, which you refer to as a source of information, consists of ONE PERSON who has been living in Britain since 2000?

              No, it doesn't bother. RT has a staff of thousands of people and a billion-dollar budget, but you cannot believe that they are broadcasting.
              laughing fool laughing what else would you teach you to make people laugh ?! laughing WHERE ARE YOU RATING RT, agitator)) you are not ours! tongue fool laughing
            2. +6
              10 October 2021 12: 33
              On the other hand, Abu Ali is "one person", and his information has been confirmed many times.


              His information has been repeatedly refuted.

              All information from Abu Ali, who pretends to be The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), is usually the following))):

              - if the Russian Aerospace Forces strike, it will certainly only go to schools, kindergartens and hospitals;

              - if the strikes are delivered by the Syrian Air Force, then as a rule they use chemical weapons and strike exclusively at the civilian population of their country, simply because Assad is a maniac and a tyrant;

              - if the US strikes Syria, it always strikes only ISIS militants, God bless America, which saves the whole world;

              - if the Israeli Air Force strikes Syria, it always strikes only the Iranians, who were about to want to strike Israel, but for some reason they have not yet hit them.

              Everything. Not a drop of truth, not a drop of objectivity.

              This Abu Ali is the same mouthpiece for the Western intelligence services, like Belingcat. These sources have nothing to do with the truth; on the contrary, they are used for propaganda and misinformation of the population.

              And such flashy names are used for solidity, one might think that there really are thousands of volunteers who are risking their lives trying to convey the truth to the world. But that's not it at all.

              In the Western media, the state and budget are several times greater than that of the Republic of Tatarstan, and all that they broadcast is much further from the truth than the reports of the Republic of Tatarstan.
              1. -1
                10 October 2021 14: 33
                Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                All information from Abu Ali, who pretends to be The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR), is usually the following))):

                Abu Ali has nothing to do with The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR). You are confusing him with someone else. He covers the Arab-Israeli conflict. I gave it as an example of a source of information.

                Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                In the Western media, the state and budget are several times greater than that of the Republic of Tatarstan, and all that they broadcast is much further from the truth than the reports of the Republic of Tatarstan.

                Let me disagree with you. RT has a lie that begins with a name. Their materials do not have anything about Russia Today. Further more.
                1. +4
                  10 October 2021 18: 19
                  Abu Ali has nothing to do with The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR).


                  Yes, I misunderstood you here. It was about the Syrian Center, and for some reason you mentioned Abdu Ali while discussing it, I thought that you mean the organizer and the only member of this organization.

                  The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is led by Osama Ali.

                  And everything written refers to him and this pseudo-center for human rights.

                  Let me disagree with you. RT has a lie that begins with a name. Their materials do not have anything about Russia Today. Further more.


                  Where is the lie? Have you tried to find?

                  Go to the news site - https://russian.rt.com/news and see the news from Russia. Everything is there, and you yourself are lying.

                  And in addition to news from Russia, there are other informational sections.
                  1. 0
                    10 October 2021 19: 24
                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Yes, I misunderstood you here. It was about the Syrian Center, and for some reason you mentioned Abdu Ali while discussing it, I thought that you mean the organizer and the only member of this organization.

                    I gave an example of a "simple" blogger whose information is more reliable than from many TV channels. Therefore, it does not bother me that this "source of information consists of ONE PERSON".

                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights is led by Osama Ali.

                    Do not know.

                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Where is the lie? Have you tried to find?

                    It's like the box says "Salt", and there is "Groats". Where is the lie? So it is with "Russia Today" - not about Russia. This channel should be called "America Today" and "Ukraine Today". So it will be fair.

                    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                    Go to the news site - https://russian.rt.com/news and see the news from Russia. Everything is there, but you yourself are lying.

                    "Is everything there"? And about the torture of prisoners in the hospital of the Federal Penitentiary Service in Saratov? Why on earth? Saratov Russia? Or is it happening today?

                    Now we are looking at https://www.rt.com/on-air/ and looking for news about Russia today.
                    1. -1
                      11 October 2021 14: 24

                      I gave an example of a "simple" blogger whose information is more reliable than from many TV channels. Therefore, it does not bother me that this "source of information consists of ONE PERSON".


                      Even if your Abdu Ali is a crystal-clear person, this does not mean that Osaka Ali in Britain is exactly the same.

                      Tell me how a common civilian in Britain can have prompt and accurate information about all the events in Syria?

                      No way. And do not talk nonsense that he has his agents everywhere with cameras who see everything and hear everything.

                      This blogger simply works as a mouthpiece for the special services and through him voices the information that is needed, so that later it can be used for his own purposes.

                      How many screams there were about the use of chemical weapons in Syria by government forces. Obvious disinformation, and use it as a pretext for an attack on Syria.

                      Just like the most honest Israeli media lie about the Iranian threat from Syria, justifying their aggression and the deaths of Syrian citizens.

                      Already someone, but not Jews, can accuse RT of lying.
              2. 0
                11 October 2021 10: 29

                Ratmir_Ryazan
                Yesterday, 12: 33
                good I liked your post very much. Facts and objectivity. This is what opponents do not like. They would blur, suck out of the finger, flood ...
        3. +6
          10 October 2021 11: 14
          Quote: professor
          London-based monitoring group The Syrian Observatory for Human Rights (SOHR) clarifies

          Syrian Observatory for Human Rights
          Syrian Observatory for Human Rights, SOHR, SCMHR) is an information project initiated and led by Osama Ali Suleiman (pseudonym Rami Abdul-Rahman), a Syrian citizen who has lived in Coventry (UK) since 2000. The center has only one permanent employee - Osama Ali Suleiman himself
          Things are really bad if there is no one else to refer to.
    13. +15
      10 October 2021 08: 38
      Quote: professor
      Satellite images would be appropriate.

      So they are in the telegram channel that I indicated to you, do not be too lazy to register if you do not have a telegram, the hangar is destroyed on the edge, and the damage is really minimal, obviously not from 8 missiles!
      1. -5
        10 October 2021 11: 43
        Quote: Pytnik
        Quote: professor
        Satellite images would be appropriate.

        So they are in the telegram channel that I indicated to you, do not be too lazy to register if you do not have a telegram, the hangar is destroyed on the edge, and the damage is really minimal, obviously not from 8 missiles!

        I don't want to register anywhere. Will it not be difficult for you to post a photo HERE?
    14. +8
      10 October 2021 08: 38
      It was necessary to intercept Israeli planes, it would be more effective.
    15. -5
      10 October 2021 08: 40
      The legendary American General Raymond Odierno has died!
      1. +3
        10 October 2021 09: 29
        and what is he legendary? well, not counting the command in Iraq ...
      2. +1
        11 October 2021 00: 23
        Quote: B1 Lanser
        ... American general
        Raymond Odierno!

        "Efim died, and to hell with him!"laughing
    16. kig
      +1
      10 October 2021 08: 46
      But what if we have a super-secret agreement with Israel to conduct weapons tests in conditions as close as possible to?
      1. +3
        10 October 2021 09: 05
        But what if we have a super-secret agreement with Israel to conduct weapons tests in conditions as close as possible to?


        Genius and the wolves are fed, and the sheep are safe. Savings on expensive targets and safety precautions for calculations hi
      2. +3
        10 October 2021 09: 30
        Are you a science fiction lover? I love her, but I never thought of that. laughing
      3. +4
        10 October 2021 19: 02
        Quote: kig
        But what if we have a super-secret agreement with Israel to conduct weapons tests in conditions as close as possible to?

        We clearly have a very secret, but much more realistic agreement with Israel - we do not in any way prevent the IDF from striking Iranian infrastructure in Syria. We do not really need the Iranians there, since Iran is not an ally to us at all, and if the States did not squeeze them, it would act as our adversary.
    17. KLV
      0
      10 October 2021 08: 48
      "Pantsir-S", which is in service with the Syrian army, repelled an attack by Israeli aircraft, intercepting missiles fired by it.
      ..........................................
      The author, please write in Russian: missiles launched by HER.
      I immediately thought that the missiles were fired (to whom?) By the Israeli aviation (by whom?) By the Israeli aviation. Nonsense...
    18. +1
      10 October 2021 08: 53
      On October 21, at 33:16, six F-12 tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force, crossing the state border of the SAR in the Al-Tanf area, struck with 4 guided missiles at the T-XNUMX (Tifor) airfield in the province of Homs. (...) Eight missiles destroyed

      Look how it is. And yesterday they wrote that they were shooting through Lebanon.
      VO editors often screw up this way, do not check the information and throw it as it is, but honest (and not so) people believe.
    19. +6
      10 October 2021 08: 57
      Syrian carapace? One or something.
      I would not be surprised.
      These are funny Israeli missiles. As if even he and the Palestinians have one for two missile developers.
      1. +3
        10 October 2021 19: 02
        Quote: Bambucha
        One or something.

        Apparently yes ...
    20. +11
      10 October 2021 09: 21
      Here the other day, in the comments under another article, an Israeli leader claimed that they have a jammer on every missile and bomb, forming false targets and leading the Pantsir missiles (and not only Pantsir) to the side. Looks like they forgot to put on these downed missiles? laughing
    21. +1
      10 October 2021 09: 27
      Whatever they write, I have no doubt that the Pantsir-S air defense missile system saved many lives in this case!
      1. -3
        10 October 2021 10: 04
        Quote: kotev19
        Whatever they write, I have no doubt that the Pantsir-S air defense missile system saved many lives in this case

        The armor is undoubtedly an excellent means of protecting life, especially for those people who are at a distance from it at the time of the attack.
        1. 0
          10 October 2021 20: 18
          Thanks for the support! I bet you +, otherwise I see that they began to "bomb" you! good
    22. +2
      10 October 2021 10: 21
      The abnormal situation with these Israeli strikes on the territory of a sovereign state. Why shouldn't Syria do the same under the pretext of the presence of ISIS fighters or other anti-government forces in Israel ?!
      1. -1
        10 October 2021 10: 28
        Quote: Vladimir 141
        The abnormal situation with these Israeli strikes on the territory of a sovereign state. Why shouldn't Syria do the same under the pretext of the presence of ISIS fighters or other anti-government forces in Israel ?!

        Because the Syrians, for all their problems, are not at all stupid people. hi
        1. +7
          10 October 2021 11: 28
          Conversely, in Israel, stupid people attacking neighboring countries.
          1. -2
            10 October 2021 11: 55
            Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
            Conversely, in Israel, stupid people attacking neighboring countries.

            Country? When was the last time Israel attacked Egypt or Jordan? And all because they buried the ax of war and made peace with Israel. Syria and Lebanon do not want peace. And in war it is like in war.
            1. +4
              10 October 2021 12: 10
              No matter how pathos, Israel does not attack Jordan and Egypt, it is true that it attacks others, but that is not it.
              Think for yourself how much you need to be gifted in order to attack Syrian targets with missiles (not cheap) with the exhaust of 6 wounded !? Collect statistics over the years, calculate where your warriors are throwing money and think about whether it is necessary to attack some airfield somewhere in Syria under the pretext that there may be Iranians there? Once again I will ask you in Israel all the problems have already been resolved and there is no place to spend money, the people only need new territories and messages about brave flyers?
              1. 0
                10 October 2021 14: 41
                Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
                No matter how pathos, Israel does not attack Jordan and Egypt, it is true that it attacks others, but that is not it.

                Yes. Only those who declared war on Israel. Syria chose not peace, but war. Now he gets it.

                Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
                Think for yourself how much you need to be gifted in order to attack Syrian targets with missiles (not cheap) with the exhaust of 6 wounded !?

                Our goal is not to kill, but to ensure the safety of our citizens. The absence of casualties is proof of the high accuracy of our weapons.

                Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
                Collect statistics over the years, calculate where your warriors are throwing money in and think about whether you need to attack some airfield somewhere in Syria under the pretext that there may be Iranians there?

                Necessary.

                Quote: Sergey Kulikov_3
                Once again, I will ask you in Israel all the problems have already been resolved and there is no place to spend money, the people only need new territories and messages about brave flyers?

                There are many problems in Israel and we have something to spend money on, but our safety comes first. Send to Jordan and Egypt.
        2. +5
          10 October 2021 12: 10

          A. Privalov (Alexander Privalov)
          Today, 10:28 am Because the Syrians, with all their problems, are not at all stupid. hi
          Changing shoes in the air! laughing
      2. +4
        10 October 2021 19: 04
        Quote: Vladimir 141
        Why shouldn't Syria do the same under the pretext of the presence of ISIS fighters or other anti-government forces in Israel ?!

        Because Syria simply does not have the funds and opportunities for this! If there were, they would have taken the Golan in the first place.
    23. +5
      10 October 2021 10: 38
      It is necessary to shoot down the attacking Israeli fighters, not the missiles they fired.
      1. 0
        11 October 2021 12: 22
        congenial! It's time to put you in command of the Aerospace Forces)
        1. -1
          11 October 2021 22: 09
          We did not drink at brotherhood, dear. Please contact me with "you". Better yet, don't contact me at all - I prefer to communicate with smart, or at least adequate people.
    24. -4
      10 October 2021 11: 32
      As always, there is no video ... At least once shown.
    25. +2
      10 October 2021 12: 01
      Not missiles, planes had to be shot down.
    26. +1
      10 October 2021 12: 38
      Satellite images of recent years can always be viewed and made sure what the attacked objects turn into.
      And after that, you can tell how they shot down fifteen missiles out of twelve.




      1. +4
        10 October 2021 13: 13
        A couple of photos from dozens of attacks are not about anything. Consequently, the rest of the attacks were unsuccessful. You're not always lucky. Although you are at war with the Papuans ...
        1. -2
          10 October 2021 13: 55
          Quote: Fungus
          A couple of photos from dozens of attacks are not about anything. Consequently, the rest of the attacks were unsuccessful. You're not always lucky. Although you are at war with the Papuans ...

          What was at hand, then laid out. Will you order to spread it after each attack? hi
          1. +5
            10 October 2021 14: 13
            Yes, I do not care what you bomb there. I'm worried that you bomb the Syrians disguised as Iranians ....
            1. 0
              10 October 2021 14: 17
              Quote: Fungus
              Yes, I do not care what you bomb there. I'm worried that you bomb the Syrians disguised as Iranians ....

              - Honduras worries me.
              - And you do not scratch him, it will pass by itself.
              lol wassat laughing
              1. +2
                10 October 2021 15: 55
                So you Jews are worried about Russia, you can't sleep and eat, you all wipe with your matzah and chutzpah on VO. lolIgor Berkut is a thousand times right in his videos about your hidden national policy !!! hi
                1. +2
                  10 October 2021 16: 37
                  Quote: VORON538
                  So you Jews are worried about Russia, you can't sleep and eat, you all wipe with your matzah and chutzpah on VO. lolIgor Berkut is a thousand times right in his videos about your hidden national policy !!! hi

                  Yes, matzo is a serious argument in the discussion ...
                  By the way, Jews have been eating matzo once a year for over 3 years in memory of slavery in Egypt. So that no one, and never in future generations, would forget about the hardships of slavery and would not seek for a free plate of stew in exchange for freedom.
                  Now, you have already learned the word "chutzpA".
                  Good word, juicy.
                  You liked it so much that you even designate your primordially Russian "insolence" in our Jewish way.
                  Now, you will learn a couple more good and useful words:
                  "Hochma" - it means, in our opinion, in Hebrew - "wisdom"
                  and binA is intelligence.
                  They will be very useful to you, but only when you begin to manifest them.
                  A useful and commendable activity, you know. hi
                  P.S. Igor Berkut is an ordinary clown. For the sake of PR, even the most rotten - he will sell his own mother.
    27. -6
      10 October 2021 12: 54
      Quote: Roman Efremov
      Here the other day, in the comments under another article, an Israeli leader claimed that they have a jammer on every missile and bomb, forming false targets and leading the Pantsir missiles (and not only Pantsir) to the side. Looks like they forgot to put on these downed missiles? laughing

      Looks like they specifically allowed to shoot down exactly eight, oversaturated the Shell, because there are frames from the rocket itself when it hits the Shell, he tries to shoot back from the rocket, but everything goes by
      https://m.lenta.ru/news/2019/01/21/panzir_out/amp/
    28. +4
      10 October 2021 14: 00
      I think that next time a couple of F-16s will also fall. The Persians are learning to use weapons!
      1. +2
        10 October 2021 15: 56
        It is high time !!! hi
    29. 0
      10 October 2021 15: 25
      "All missiles have been shot down, all targets have been destroyed."
      Classic laughing
    30. -1
      10 October 2021 16: 25
      It’s time to put these "Palestinian Cossacks" in place and make the airfields unusable.
    31. +1
      10 October 2021 18: 14
      The task was completed, the planes returned to the base in full force, and they also made an advertisement for Pantsiru.
      Have a nice week, gentlemen!
    32. Egg
      +3
      10 October 2021 18: 36
      Quote: Shahno
      66 percent efficiency, right. Weak, the ads were better.

      Well, that's how to count ...
      12 missiles launched ... 8 shot down
      1 shell attachment can shoot down 8 missiles in 1 strike.
      More recharge is needed.
      If there were 2 raids of 6 missiles each, all 12 would be shot down and 100% of the result.
      If there were 1 missiles in 100 raid, then 1 shell installation would still shoot down 8 missiles, the rest would break through to the target and the result would be 8% ...
      Such is the arithmetic.
      It is necessary to either increase the number of shell installations or ammunition load of 1 installation, which is constructively impossible.
      Although I do not understand why not install additional missile launchers in the trailer with control from the base. It would be cheap and cheerful and would increase the ammunition load of the 1st shell by 5-6 times
      1. -2
        10 October 2021 22: 45
        Quote: Telur
        Well, that's how to count ...

        When they begin to count, this is a sign of thinking, which has been critically lacking on the VO website lately.
        Now try to calculate what we all read over these two days.
        Israeli aircraft attacked the Syrian T-4 Tiyas airfield andfrom Lebanese airspace
        It is also known that the UAV attacked Syrian territory near the city of Abu Kemal near the Iraqi border. The ownership of the drone has not yet been reported
        On October 21 at 33:16 six F-XNUMX tactical fighters of the Israeli Air Force crossing the state border of the SAR in the area of ​​Et-Tanf struck with 12 guided missiles at the T-4 (Tifor) airfield in the province of Homs. (...) Eight missiles destroyed
        Now look at the map.

        Do you have any questions?
        How did the planes arrive in the attack area? (please do not write through Jordan. Israel does not violate the sovereignty of the country with which the peace was made).
        Or maybe everything is simpler, taking into account the very excluding statements, they saw only the fact of rocket fire and in order to look serious, 6 F-16s with 12 missiles were born, maybe just two "penguins", one launched blanks, which were successfully destroyed, and the second, seeing the launch points, completed the task.
        1. -1
          11 October 2021 12: 25
          how beautifully I furnished everything!) Isn't it funny yourself?)
          1. +1
            11 October 2021 14: 03
            Quote: dima314
            how beautifully I furnished everything!) Isn't it funny yourself?)

            Please provide your evidence to the contrary, it will be interesting for everyone to read.
            And remember the future when you deny something IS ALWAYS evidence to the contrary must be provided. Otherwise, TREP
    33. +4
      10 October 2021 20: 24
      What missiles were shot down, what ammunition consumption, what complexes took part in repelling the raid ??? It seems to me that it looks more like propaganda))) an article.
    34. 0
      10 October 2021 21: 57
      Interestingly, what is the consumption of missiles. If 12, then the efficiency is 60%.
    35. -1
      11 October 2021 13: 55
      Quote: Aaron Zawi
      Quote: Tusv
      So what is next? Aaron? Or here the fox was running, or maybe not, or maybe it was a janitor. But agree. The 12 axes recognized by the Russian Ministry of Defense have caused noticeably less damage than your attacks with smaller warheads and smaller delivery vehicles. Agree. This does give reason to doubt the sincerity of your pictures.

      I have not believed your propaganda for a long time and stubbornly.

      only Israeli?
    36. -1
      11 October 2021 15: 57
      I would send the Point as a gift to Israel.

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