Is there a big strategy in Russia?

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Long-term planning looks like a zigzagging between the declared tasks and the harsh reality

The question of whether there is a so-called big strategy in the Russian Federation is very interesting. The West has traditionally rooted the view that the Russian leadership has some deeply thought-out, purposeful, and comprehensive strategic plans that determine foreign policy and military construction for the long term.

Such plans were attributed by Western observers to all Russian emperors without exception - from Peter I to Nicholas II and to all Soviet leaders - from Lenin to Gorbachev. Accordingly, any actions of Russia and the USSR were interpreted as corresponding to some profound long-term plans - even the most reflex and improvised, such as, for example, the introduction of troops into Afghanistan in the 1979 year.

Documents are benevolent.

This trend continues to live in the West, and now, good, Vladimir Putin’s purposeful authoritarian style in politics creates an atmosphere that allegedly has a long-term vision with the current Russian leadership. On the other hand, it was under Putin that there were indeed very active attempts to formulate a long-term strategy for the development of Russia both in the economy and in security policy. Although, undoubtedly, these attempts are largely a consequence of the ideological support of Putin’s aspiration to transform his power into lifelong, but they still reflect the intention to form some kind of strategic vision.

The latest embodiments of the long-term security policy planning under Putin-Medvedev were the National Security Strategy of the Russian Federation until 2020, approved by presidential decree Dmitry Medvedev of 12 in May 2009, and the Military Doctrine of the Russian Federation, signed by February decree of 5 of 2010.

Nevertheless, in my opinion, now in Russia in the field of strategic planning there is a rather ambiguous situation, generally characteristic of the Russian storiesHowever, it is most clearly manifested in the Putin political system. This situation consists in the fact that the real domestic security policy is very poorly formalized, and accordingly all formalized schemes and texts designed to formulate this policy for the present and the future are rather conditional, sketchy and divorced from real activity. This fully applies to all sorts of doctrines, strategies, plans and concepts, abundantly released by the Russian authorities in the last decade, not excluding the last two mentioned supposedly "fundamental" documents (National Security Strategy and Military Doctrine). Therefore, it should be well understood that these formalized documents are not at all decisive for the actions of the Russian leadership, but are rather political and propaganda (or, more precisely, benevolent).

Is there a big strategy in Russia?

The real Russian strategy of action (if the term “strategy” can be applied to it at all) is defined as a bizarre compromise between the actions of various factors, groups of influence and other things and in many ways represents a kind of zigzagging between the declared objectives and plans and harsh reality. Russian politics has been and under Putin continues to remain predominantly reactive, following events, reacting to external factors and difficult to describe in terms of long-term planning. The personal qualities of Vladimir Putin, about which runaway oligarch Boris Berezovsky put it in the sense that "Putin is good at using situations, but cannot create situations, contribute to this." Hence the de facto general prevalence of tactics over strategy in Putin’s policy.

On the other hand, it is difficult not to see that Putin, at the same time, has some rather stable sum of views on the character of the Russian state and its policies, and that Putin’s foreign and defense policy is based on some relatively solid ideas. However, it is precisely these views that are still not very formalized and, apparently, can only be partially reconstructed.

Finally, it is worth pointing out that Putin’s vision is partly opportunistic in nature, based on the sentiments of a large majority of the Russian population. Putin rather follows these sentiments, rather than defining them. Putin's views largely correspond to the current consensus on security policy among the Russian population and Russian elites. This to a large extent contributed to the breadth of Putin’s support in the past decade, during the period of the so-called Putin majority. And it is significant that even now, during the collapse of this “Putin majority”, foreign policy and security policy issues are practically not the subject of serious discussion in Russia and are not particularly challenged even by opposition groups and political figures (except for the very unbridled marginal ultra-liberals).

In general, speaking even more broadly, it can be said that in Russia today we observe several main sources of shaping the main directions of the security policy:

  • the defining vision and the sum of Putin’s political and psychological attitudes as an authoritarian leader, almost completely setting the political agenda, as well as Putin’s practical activities;
  • formal declarations in the field of doctrine and strategy of the era of the presidencies of Putin and Medvedev;
  • a common “spontaneous” consensus vision of security policies and goals that has emerged among the Russian elites and the population.

If it is possible to speak of the existence of a “big strategy” in Russia, then this “big strategy” is a kind of integrated resultant of these sources, and therefore it makes sense to try to give a description of this resultant. Thus, here we are talking about trying to sort of “reconstruct” the current Russian “big strategy” and to highlight the main elements that make it possible to understand the logic of the political elite of the country when making certain security decisions. We will focus precisely on the military aspects of the problematic.

Russian consensus and its contradictions

It is quite obvious that in the last decade and a half in Russia a national consensus has gradually been forming on the goals and objectives of state-building. With this vision, the fundamental national goal can be called the restoration of Russia as a great power in economic, political and military terms. At the same time, an important aspect of this vision is the consciousness of the Russian elite of the need for a radical modernization of the country precisely for the revival of its great-power status.


Actually, it is the interpretations of this formula that create the basis for determining the main directions of military construction, the main tasks of the Armed Forces of Russia, possible threats and possible opponents.

The main problem of the Russian security policy in this context is that this striving is in conflict with the policies of the United States and the West, which objectively, in principle, do not favor Russia’s strengthening economically, politically, and militarily. On the other hand, both Russia and the West are interested in economic and political cooperation, and the West is the main resource of modernization for Russia.

This predetermines the entire current ambiguous nature of the military-political relations between Russia and the West, when both sides are pursuing a contradictory policy of "friendliness and deterrence" regarding each other. Objectively, on the one hand, Russia looks to the West as the main resource for modernization, and on the other, the United States and the West are simultaneously (and often justifiably) considered to be the main external obstacles to national reconstruction and modernization and therefore are still identified as potential adversaries. Russia.

An additional complicating factor in this context is Russia's relations with its closest neighbors. It can be said that in general none of the states bordering on the Russian Federation (including most of the republics of the former USSR) are in principle interested in the revival of Russia. This circumstance is the main reason for their unbridled pro-Western orientation, their desire to join NATO, and so on. Nationalist post-Soviet formations (primarily the Baltic states, Ukraine and Georgia) in essence now represent the main immediate problem for the security of our country. Therefore, the Russian Federation is partly forced to consider almost all the states bordering on it as potential adversaries to one degree or another.

On the other hand, it is completely obvious that the republics of the former USSR are a natural sphere of Russia's national interests. They are connected by a myriad of social, political and economic threads with the Russian Federation. Therefore, from the point of view of the domestic elite, the revival of Russia as a great power is impossible without the preservation of Russian influence (and preferably domination) in the former Soviet republics. The forms and methods of this influence are a matter of separate discussion. However, it is clear that the preservation of this impact is impossible without breaking the current anti-Russian tendencies in the domestic and foreign policy of these republics and without restricting Western intervention in what Moscow interprets as a “historical zone of Russian interests”.

Finally, for Russia, the threat of terrorism and separatism persists.

Based on the above, it can be concluded that Russia faces three main types of military threats (in terms of probability):
  • Conflicts of the “post-Soviet type” both within Russia in the form of separatist insurrections and attempts to secession of territories, and similar in nature to conflicts with neighboring former Soviet republics, mostly perceiving the Russian Federation as the main threat to their sovereignty and interested in weakening by any means Russian influence on their the territory and Russia as a state in general;
  • the threat of conflict with the United States of America as the dominant superpower in the modern world and with the US-led "Western Bloc";
  • the possibility of conflicts with states outside the "Western Bloc", primarily with China. Currently, this type of threat is seen in many ways to be minimal in importance due to the relatively small intersection of Russia's interests with such countries. Nevertheless, it is worth noting that the Russian Federation retains a sufficiently significant military potential in the Far East.

At the same time, the first threat is considered to be conflicts of the first type, which has been vividly embodied in the direction of military reform conducted since 2008 under the leadership of the defense minister Serdyukov. Its essence lies in the transformation of the Armed Forces of Russia from the traditional mobilization system to the forces of constant full combat readiness. The fundamental conceptual basis of military reform is the reorientation of the Russian Armed Forces of the new look to participate mainly in limited conflicts, such as the five-day campaign of 2008 against the Georgia. The new structure of the Russian Armed Forces is being built up for these tasks - the Armed Forces should be more flexible, mobile, constantly combat-ready, capable of quick response and engaging primarily in limited conflicts in the territory of the Russian Federation and other states of the former USSR, as well as adjacent territories.

It should be particularly noted that Russia maintains and will maintain in the foreseeable future the full military superiority over the former post-Soviet states, ensuring its military-strategic domination in the territory of the former USSR. As for the military threat from the West, then, as can be judged, the main type of such threat is the possibility of political and military intervention in conflicts in the post-Soviet space by Western countries. Such intervention is seen as the main threat to the national goals of Russia in Eurasia.

Attention should be paid to one more aspect. The concept of a “multipolar world”, so actively promoted by Russia, is in itself a priori conflict, providing the world with the game of “free forces”, including the force ones. "Many poles" on the planet will inevitably compete with each other and try to surround themselves with their own spheres of influence. This means that Russia must be morally ready to fight for its position and must have a sufficiently powerful military potential to rely on it in this fight. Certainly, taking into account Russian military and industrial capabilities, stable imperial traditions and the unique geopolitical position in the center of Eurasia, the Russian Federation is much more capable than other nations to acquire the position of one of the most powerful powers. Therefore, from the point of view of Moscow, the multipolar world (and even partly geopolitical chaos) is beneficial for Russia, creating unique opportunities to promote Russian interests.

At the same time, the Russian Federation is simultaneously pursuing a policy of expanding ties with Western countries, and is no longer in a state of ideological confrontation with the West. Finally, Moscow is forced to reckon with the rise of new forces on the world stage — first and foremost China.

The combination of these factors, therefore, forces Russia to conduct multi-vector military construction, preparing to repel a wide range of threats and prepare in parallel for the most diverse types of conflicts - from counterinsurgency and interventions in the former Soviet republics to possible large-scale conventional land war with NATO or China and global nuclear war with the United States. Undoubtedly, such a multi-vector approach creates enormous problems for the development of the Armed Forces of Russia and for defense planning, especially in combination with the vast territory of the Russian Federation and the length of its borders and in the conditions of the continuing lack of resources.

Thus, the main immediate objectives of the Russian military construction can be identified:

  • exerting military-political pressure on the domestic and foreign policies of the former Soviet republics and the use of military force against them, if this is demanded by state interests;
  • military deterrence of the United States and NATO countries, primarily with the aim of preventing Western intervention in conflicts in the post-Soviet space and in Russia's possible actions toward the former Soviet republics;
  • participation in the suppression of internal threats of separatism and terrorism.
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  1. +2
    13 September 2012 07: 22
    for the strategy to work, and the country's security be ensured, it is necessary to outweigh the percent of 90 of the official apparatus. then it will be easier both for the people and the country
    1. +8
      13 September 2012 07: 34
      Quote: andrei332809
      it is necessary to outweigh 90 percent of the official apparatus.

      And then outweigh 90% of the population. After all, officials from this very population. They did not fall from the sky. New officials will be the same. And then Tercher's dream will come true, about 15 million. population in Russia.
      In my opinion, you need to significantly tighten the laws. Then the unsubscribed officials will either correct themselves or leave.
      1. +13
        13 September 2012 07: 44
        let me disagree with you. Now official functions duplicate each other; I don’t know how many times. Dozens of institutions deal with the same issue. why so much? grandfathers at work said that in Soviet times, in the accounting department of the workshop with the number of associates about 1000 people, one grandfather sat with accounts and managed to do everything. Now for the number of 200 people are sitting 5-7 young women with computers and no time to do nicherta, they are also often mistaken
        1. +2
          13 September 2012 08: 02
          Quote: andrei332809
          Now official functions duplicate each other; I don’t know how many times.

          Absolutely agree with you.

          But not
          Quote: andrei332809
          90 percent of the official apparatus to outweigh.
          the same. Putting things in order does not mean hanging. At least 90%. It is necessary to read from one or two hanged. And when, instead of "fine and canar", "rope and bunk" shines, the situation will improve significantly. IMHO.
          1. +4
            13 September 2012 08: 08
            Well, about hanging is figurative. Moreover, we have a maratorium
          2. REPA1963
            0
            13 September 2012 22: 24
            ONE, TWO, but you my friend provocateur since one, two is like a TANDEM! Boldly however.
        2. Russlana
          +1
          13 September 2012 08: 56
          Maybe you should compare the legislation of the USSR and the Russian Federation? Perhaps then questions about the number of "young ladies" in the accounting department will disappear.
        3. 0
          13 September 2012 09: 36
          now for the number of 200 people sit 5-7 young ladies with computers
          If this is happening in your company, then I am sorry for you.
          Usually, up to 2000 people, one chief accountant is enough if not the production sphere and 2-3 if production.
          1. +1
            13 September 2012 09: 41
            urzulu
            this is a factory. and each workshop has its own bookkeeping with young ladies. and above them the office of the chief accountant, where a person 50-70 is found
            1. 0
              13 September 2012 10: 13
              What revenue volume? And then maybe you have a conveyor there;)))
              1. +1
                13 September 2012 10: 50
                urzulu
                I won’t say about the revenue, I won’t even say what kind of enterprise. but take a word, the administrative workers of the order of 2000 for 7000 basic workers. the defense industry rules
          2. in reserve
            +2
            13 September 2012 10: 31
            If this is happening in your company, then I am sorry for you.
            Usually, up to 2000 people, one chief accountant is enough if not the production sphere and 2-3 if production.


            And we have a state institution for 300 people 10 accountants still on maternity leave 3-4 and a complete mess.
          3. Denzel13
            0
            13 September 2012 17: 05
            Andrey, I don’t know about you, but with the existing tax system + a system of control by law enforcement agencies (I wrote the word and once again realized that I did it through “I don’t want to”, since the concept of “provo-protection” means protection a complete focus on "squeezing" the money supply) it turns out that in almost any enterprise, the number of people "serving" the requirements of the supervising and controlling bodies of the state tends to rise exponentially in relation to the development of the enterprise.
        4. +1
          13 September 2012 10: 21
          Quote: andrei332809
          one grandfather sat with accounts and kept up with everything. Now for the number of 200 people are sitting 5-7 young women with computers and no time to do nicherta, they are also often mistaken

          so to speak, and the advantage of the old education system laughing
          1. Morgan stanley
            0
            13 September 2012 21: 20
            Quote: Tatanka Yotanka
            so to speak, and the advantage of the old education system

            It's just that in the USSR, there are a lot of topics that are now in school, they were stupidly not, they are not needed.
        5. in reserve
          +1
          13 September 2012 10: 26
          grandfathers at work said that in Soviet times, in the accounting department of the workshop with the number of associates about 1000 people, one grandfather sat with accounts and managed to do everything. Now for the number of 200 people are sitting 5-7 young women with computers and no time to do nicherta, they are also often mistaken


          I also want to add, steal manage.
        6. Evil Tatar
          0
          13 September 2012 11: 51
          Quote: andrei332809
          in the accounting department of the workshop with the number of associates about 1000 people, one grandfather sat with accounts and managed to do everything. Now for the number of 200 people are sitting 5-7 young women with computers and no time to do nicherta, they are also often mistaken

          And the counterargument in this case is more than well-known: - "the system is frozen" ... There are 200 bodies sitting, but they don't know how to use the accounts ...

          "... the fugitive oligarch Boris Berezovsky expressed himself in the sense that" Putin is good at using situations, but he does not know how to create situations. "

          Yeah ... Right so?
          He (Putin) has Sechin and Co. for these questions ... Which confirms Putin’s desire to make Sechin a belated birthday present, for his success in the work done ...
    2. +5
      13 September 2012 08: 43
      Quote: andrei332809
      for the strategy to work, and the country's security be ensured, it is necessary to outweigh the percent of 90 of the official apparatus. then it will be easier both for the people and the country

      Well, outweigh, and then what? But there was no strategy, and never will be.
      1. Kaa
        0
        13 September 2012 10: 21
        Quote: nycsson
        But there was no strategy, and never will be.
        I'm just wondering, those who do not know about the strategy, are slightly out of their minds, or are they "earners" of fragments of information? What sane state on the planet openly declares its TRUE intentions? The article smiled.
        1. +1
          13 September 2012 13: 39
          Quote: Kaa
          What sane state on the planet openly declares its TRUE intentions?

          USA! Here is a simple and illustrative example! They have these plans and strategies adopted and periodically updated ........ hi
          1. Kaa
            0
            13 September 2012 21: 13
            Quote: nycsson
            They have these plans and strategies adopted and periodically updated.

            Well, don't pretend. that you don't understand what it is about. I write: TRUE intentions. Or do you seriously believe in their strategy of "promoting democracy and human values"? Then I sympathize ...
        2. 0
          13 September 2012 15: 04
          And in general, does Russia have a strategy, does Russia have a strategy - this is unknown to science (a joke). But seriously - at the current level of corruption and, as a consequence, theft, it is difficult to count on something good.
    3. geptilshik
      +1
      13 September 2012 09: 04
      Your words to God in the ears
      1. +1
        13 September 2012 11: 23
        "One with a bipod - 77 with a spoon"
        Somewhere I read that in the post-Soviet space one real producer of material assets accounts for 17,5 overseers, controllers, administrators, and other parasite-ridden raiders under the general name OFFICIALS !!! For comparison, in tsarist Russia of the 19th century, the entire administrative and administrative apparatus of the Turkestan governor-general comprised as many as 47 people and did nothing.
        So I think to myself that before deciding the issues of the "Sick strategy" you need to start with "Small ...".
  2. vladimir70
    +4
    13 September 2012 07: 57
    To survive, Russia needs laws to be enforced without double standards
    and for this we need the political will of the leadership for the right guards to work .......
    1. -1
      13 September 2012 07: 59
      good morning.
      law enforcers?
  3. +2
    13 September 2012 08: 41
    Is there a "big strategy" in Russia?

    It was not for nothing that the author put the word "big strategy" in quotation marks, as something not quite decent .......
    Yes, no, at least for now! Until now, we can not decide who is our friend and who is the enemy! What kind of strategy are you talking about?
    1. +2
      13 September 2012 09: 14
      Well, I hope our leadership is not as stupid as some politicians in the USA who will not be openly yelling who our main enemy is !!!
      1. 0
        13 September 2012 13: 41
        Quote: carver
        Well, I hope our leadership is not as stupid as some politicians in the USA who will not be openly yelling who our main enemy is !!!

        I think that this is not from dullness, but from the mind. He earns a rating on his attitude to Russia. Do not think that this Romney is stupid ..........
        1. 0
          13 September 2012 17: 00
          Well, you can not speak so bluntly, but he speaks bluntly in the forehead. although he may consider his electorate stupid and do not understand otherwise ... the same option.
          1. 0
            13 September 2012 19: 05
            Quote: carver
            Well, you can not speak so bluntly, but he speaks bluntly in the forehead. although he may consider his electorate stupid and do not understand otherwise ... the same option.

            Probably this option was chosen by his political technologists and advisers! They all calculate there - it depends on the mood in society .......
  4. +2
    13 September 2012 08: 44
    It is interesting that the author smoked before writing the article. The article is frankly delusional. I was particularly struck by Pukhov's knowledge of the adequacy of the Russian armed forces in the Far East.
    For the author’s information, there are almost no troops left behind Baikal, and China has more troops in the 3 border districts of the country than the entire Russian army. Moreover, in these districts the most modern technology, and in our country the oldest stuff is traditionally shoved over the Urals.
    1. dmb
      +2
      13 September 2012 10: 45
      The author did not smoke anything, and, judging by his blooming appearance, systematically appearing on TV screens, he leads a healthy lifestyle: he eats well and regularly visits spa salons. But this requires money. O. Bender wrote scripts in such cases. The author is supplemented with "analytical" articles. Here, after all, what is most important: to bloom well-known, repeatedly repeated truths with pseudo-scientific phrases and to have good friends among the distributors of budgetary funds who do not require very large kickbacks. Moreover, the budget must be absolutely state-owned. for not a single private trader will give money to a hack just like that.
  5. +1
    13 September 2012 08: 49
    Until there is tight control and responsibility for the officials, now even the highest generals can be considered officials, this mess will not end, everything resembles the year 37, when the Nepmans were also overgrown, bathed in champagne, but did not have time to get out
    1. +1
      13 September 2012 09: 57
      Quote: bubla5
      it’s all reminiscent of the year 37, when the Nepmans were also overgrown,

      The New Economic Policy was killed in 1927.
  6. Dmitry.V
    +1
    13 September 2012 08: 52
    Steal. Kill. Sell.
  7. Jeen
    -7
    13 September 2012 09: 53
    Is there a big strategy in Russia?

    Russia was, is and, apparently, will remain a classical continental empire of the 18 ... 19th century model for a long time to come. As everyone is well aware, for such organisms as for strains of the simplest microorganisms in a Petri dish, the rule is true with a high degree of repeatability: The empire (strain) lives while expanding.
    So Russia has the only strategy - expansion, expansion, absorption of neighbors. Although, it is not correct to call this a strategy. The strategy involves meaningfulness, but what meaningfulness can a strain have? Naked, piercing instinct
    1. +4
      13 September 2012 10: 01
      Quote: Jeen

      Russia was, is and, apparently, will remain a classic continental empire of the 18 ... 19vv model for a long time to come.

      Well, if so. Without the pagan democracy of your satellites, which are simpler than the amoeba in their thinking. And you correctly noticed Russia will be an Empire and our Ukrainian brothers will be part of it, and the Empire will transfer skull-bearers like you over time and you understand this from that and freaking out.
      1. Kaa
        +1
        13 September 2012 10: 27
        Quote: Alexander Romanov
        Russia will be an empire and our Ukrainian brothers will be part of it
        Absolutely agree. In the 20s, 30s-40s, they assembled the Empire under a different name (USSR) from the fragments (one DVR, as an example, what is it worth) and now we will not overstrain. but this one - "separatist riots and attempts to secede territories, as well as conflicts with neighboring former Soviet republics that are close in nature, which for the most part perceive the Russian Federation as the main threat to their sovereignty and are interested in weakening in any way Russian influence on their territory and Russia as a state generally;" - will not wait, and if "the threat of a conflict with the United States of America as the dominant superpower in the modern world and with the US-led" Western bloc ";" - try it.
      2. REPA1963
        0
        13 September 2012 22: 33
        I don’t understand that you’ve become attached to democracy, it’s the POWER OF THE PEOPLE that you didn’t have any democracy in Russia. NEVER there was PARTY IN THE 90s. VOROCRACY is PUTINOCRacy now. can you blame something you have never seen?
    2. Rezun
      0
      13 September 2012 10: 35
      mr. Jeen
      It would be interesting to get acquainted with your vision of the strategy of the "advanced" powers.
      Our country, albeit slowly, hard, for a long time - but is reborn!
      We will not go "on our own" to the cemetery in white shrouds, no matter how much many "friends" wish it.
    3. MI-AS-72
      -1
      13 September 2012 20: 28
      Well, as always, you have a lack of knowledge of the subject (by the way, you were about to leave), so the classical continental empire of the 18th-19th centuries, without fail, owned overseas territories (colonies). About the theory of stamps, I can say that a stamp, an imbecile like you, does not live long, as soon as a cleaner or a laboratory assistant gets tired of this very stamp (imbecile). Naturally, neither the stamp nor imbitsil has logic, therefore, you, as a stamp and imbitsil in one person, do not understand what’s happening where or why, so your manic fear of being absorbed is a phobia that is destroyed by simple human truth, such feces as We don’t need you, but we will deal with the neighbors of the imbicilstratech without your theory of stamps. Go where you got out of.
  8. 0
    13 September 2012 10: 31
    "..... allegedly having the current Russian leadership a long-term vision ...."
    - after these words, something clever was not expected in this article. Does the author know more than the Creator himself if he reproaches him for operational management? There are principles and they are guided in playing on a "chessboard" not with four, but with many sides, moves are made not according to a programmed sequence, but according to the assessment of the position of the pieces on all sides of the multifaceted field.
    "... domestic security policy is very difficult to formalize .. " - this is cretinism! Formalize the policy ?!
  9. in reserve
    -3
    13 September 2012 10: 40
    Russia has one strategy to be feared and respected angry and we are going to this, I hope the country's leadership, too, does not think all of them are corrupt. And now every pug is yapping and demanding, as it were, illegally selected lands. stop
    1. -1
      13 September 2012 11: 08
      spare
      I think now the rulers have begun to understand that the stronger his country is, the stronger he is. and it will be easier to solve his personal issues when behind the backs "lads" in the form of strong Russia
      1. in reserve
        -2
        13 September 2012 11: 24
        I think now rulers began to understand

        They only started to understand that some progress was slow, it’s me about Ukraine and Belarus. But Kazakhstan, Turkmenistan, Uzbekistan, Azerbaijan are organizing some kind of community under a single flag, and Turkey I don’t remember there, I recently read somewhere.
        1. 0
          13 September 2012 11: 41
          yes I'm talking about "our" own.
          Ah .. Ukrainians and Bulbash (by the way, why can’t you write a ho-ol?), we are the same, and there are no older and younger. WE ARE ALONE
          1. in reserve
            -3
            13 September 2012 11: 50
            But there are people like Nemtsov and hedgehog with him, they want to make a coup with Western money, as Lenin once did for German money, they certainly dance to the American tune.
            1. 0
              13 September 2012 11: 57
              Quote: in stock
              But there are people like Nemtsov and hedgehog with him, they want to make a coup with Western money, as Lenin once did for German money, they certainly dance to the American tune.
              These are not the main traitors (they work out the loot and have never been noticed in love for Russia), but those who go out to the extras for package packages. That's pure bastards!
              1. in reserve
                -1
                13 September 2012 12: 26
                Allex28
                These are not the main traitors (they work out the loot and have never been noticed in love for Russia), but those who go out to the extras for package packages. That's pure bastards!

                So they also work out the loot, don’t you know that all extras are paid, but they don’t even know what they are doing.
                1. 0
                  13 September 2012 12: 32
                  Quote: in stock
                  So they also work out the loot, don’t you know that all extras are paid, but they don’t even know what they are doing.
                  I’m not seven spans in the forehead, but I understand what they do, which means they know that they create creatures.
            2. +3
              13 September 2012 12: 19
              You don’t have to lie about Vladimir Ilyich so brazenly, thanks to him you write here ... but not pigs on the outskirts of the graze ...
              1. +1
                13 September 2012 12: 26
                Quote: Isk1984
                You don’t have to lie about Vladimir Ilyich so brazenly, thanks to him you write here ... but not pigs on the outskirts of the graze ...
                So you have a faithful Leninist, take the trouble to read his program (it is in the public domain), thank God his plans were not destined to come true.
              2. in reserve
                -1
                13 September 2012 12: 32
                Isk1984
                You don’t have to lie about Vladimir Ilyich so brazenly, thanks to him you write here ... but not pigs on the outskirts of the graze ...

                You apologize to the faithful old communist for flouting your principles, but Ilyich doesn’t tell anyone historical facts. I’ll look for it and I will provide you with evidence.
                1. 0
                  13 September 2012 12: 35
                  What are the facts if these facts of the late 80s cited by the traitors humpback and Yakovlev, then these fake facts are difficult to name
                  1. +1
                    13 September 2012 12: 46
                    Quote: Isk1984
                    What are the facts if these facts of the late 80s cited by the traitors humpback and Yakovlev, then these fake facts are difficult to name
                    All persuaded will vote for ....
                    1. dmb
                      0
                      13 September 2012 13: 53
                      But this is superfluous (I'm talking about voting). Only very stupid people can compare Lenin with Zyuganov. At the same time I want to ask you what kind of Lenin's program do you mean, and what specifically does not suit you personally in it. Now, with regard to German money. Your opponent is right about the fact that there is no documentary evidence. And even if it were. As one clever book says: "Well, h ... li." You should be very worried about the German imperialists, whose money was wasted, because Germany ultimately lost all territorial gains, and gained only its own revolution and defeat in WWI.
                2. MI-AS-72
                  -1
                  13 September 2012 20: 38
                  Well, at the same time, look about the interim government, which received 10 times more money from Germany, about the "titular nation" that threw off the revolution in Russia, in those days $ 20 million, good money, and also about how the government of Nicholas under No. 2 introduced food detachments in 16, but a lot of things can, then some things of modern Bronsteins (and they did not achieve their goal then, but now all financial assets belong to them), and bears (Kerensky) will become clear to you, and at that time on VIL and Look at Stalin differently. An entertaining process of insight will be.
                  1. REPA1963
                    -1
                    13 September 2012 22: 37
                    By the way, it was Lev Davydovich Bronstein who was the creator of the Red Army and was very popular among the troops, this is the very army for which you consume vodka on February 23.
    2. Jeen
      -1
      17 September 2012 13: 23
      This is not a strategy. These are behavioral imperatives of a wounded scale urki. Well, or a mad dog
  10. 0
    13 September 2012 11: 34
    Yes there is a Strategy, we spend 18 billion dollars on Sochi, we spend 22 billion on the Summit, we spend another 2018 billion on the 20 World Cup, that's the whole strategy of bread and circuses ..... but only with bread its trouble is. almost finished off ....
    Many issues can be resolved in a couple of days, the same personnel issue if you know that this thief doesn’t even take off, I’m not talking about Chubais as the most obvious sabotage of the science and resources of the state, there are a lot of candidates for departure, we don’t have any irreplaceable there will be managers and honest people, but they will only be loyal to someone and it’s incomprehensible .... just when it turns out that the fifth column in the Kremlin has been beaten for a long time and the majority of those here who are talking about supporting the course will exclaim and howl so, do not make surprised faces that betrayed you because everything happened before your eyes .....
    1. +2
      13 September 2012 12: 17
      Quote: Isk1984
      Yes there is a Strategy, we spend 18 billion dollars on Sochi, we spend 22 billion on the Summit, we spend another 2018 billion on the 20 World Cup, that's the whole strategy of bread and circuses ..... but only with bread its trouble is. almost finished off ...
      DAAA, my friend, first of all, look at the statistics on grain exports, then the profit for the Olympiads (I’m not talking about infra-structure, it won’t go anywhere after the Olympics) for the World Cup and the summit ..
      Quote: Isk1984
      Many issues can be resolved in a couple of days, the same personnel issue if you know that this thief doesn’t even take off.
      Well done, the whole world has been struggling with this issue for centuries laughing CONCLUSION: It’s too early for you as president yet, I’m thinking once more (only carefully) to take a course in general education. In short,
      1. 0
        13 September 2012 12: 49
        All over the world people are not appointed to key positions incompetent, or at least their assistants are upscale ..... yes management is a difficult art, but can it be created in 12 years or not? Your emoticons are certainly fun for you, it’s strange that you can prosper and laugh .... There will be no profit for the Olympics if you think that it will pay off for the dry statistics: it has already been spent and will be more than $ 30 billion, the return on investment in Sochi is in question, therefore, even many objects are prefabricated so they don’t need anyone after the Olympics, the flow of tourists there will not overshoot as they traveled to Turkey and Egypt will be cheaper because ..... there’s nothing to pay back for our costs and there’s nothing to compare the terms with the winter and summer Olympiads, although in terms of the current Montreal course, it’s close to 1976, well, the costs for it seemed to be as soon as in 2011 not only paid off, but simply caught up .... like that
        1. in reserve
          0
          13 September 2012 13: 08
          Isk1984
          You probably compose these statistics yourself, since it’s clear to a fool that you can earn a lot of dough at the Olympics and recoup all construction projects, plus new jobs. And to the account
          how we traveled to Turkey and Egypt so it will be because it is cheaper ..... payback
          times are changing interests too.
          1. +2
            13 September 2012 13: 15
            You can earn money at the Olympics if you spent 100 million, received 109 it’s a profit, but pay back in decades (and not from the fact), while there are enough other problems in the country, half of which will be spent by demagogues like you .... and are you really so naive or is it stupidity not to understand the situation
            1. 0
              13 September 2012 13: 25
              Well, I’m already a thief, Lenin’s hardening is immediately visible. Do not bend my friend.
            2. in reserve
              -1
              13 September 2012 13: 26
              Let’s do nothing at all then, just gobble up this money again, we won’t upgrade anything, it’s not a secret to anyone to steal, but this time there is nothing to be done about it, as in the USSR there will no longer be where all the poor, but equal to us, we should reach a level where even a beggar lives well.
              And people like you seem to think today, and what will happen tomorrow you do not think. With this approach, why do we need to master MARS, we have hungry people.
              1. MI-AS-72
                0
                13 September 2012 20: 50
                Really full hungry does not understand. Naher to give Russian money to sponsorship of foreign football clubs, champions leagues, to buy foreign-made football players for a lot of money if the country does not solve the main problems, health care, education, human security and the state as a whole. Without solving these basic issues, sustainable development of the state is not possible, and the question of strategy disappears by itself if the indigenous population dies out. That's what it is about.
              2. REPA1963
                0
                13 September 2012 22: 41
                Think correctly, WHY? People are hungry street children as if in a civilian and we are reaching for the Yankees on Mars to the moon and much more ....
          2. +1
            13 September 2012 13: 45
            Quote: in stock
            since it’s clear to a fool that at the Olympics you can earn a lot of dough and recoup all construction projects

            This is if you spend your money wisely ..........
          3. 0
            13 September 2012 15: 14
            At the expense of the Olympics payback, let's not rush. It seems that the real construction costs turned out to be much higher than they planned, but how much more money we’ll earn is still a question.
            1. 0
              13 September 2012 15: 19
              Quote: 1976AG
              At the expense of the Olympics payback, let's not rush. It seems that the real construction costs turned out to be much higher than they planned, but how much more money we’ll earn is still a question.
              The main thing, as I already said, is infrastructure, or someone is against the development of regions. Not all grandmas to Moscow.
              1. REPA1963
                0
                13 September 2012 22: 43
                This is not the cost above it is already the money that pulled.
        2. -2
          13 September 2012 13: 18
          Quote: Isk1984
          there’s nothing to compare the annulags with, not just with the winter and summer Olympiads, although in terms of the current Montreal course, it’s close to 1976, well, the cost of it seemed to be as soon as in 2011, not just paid off, but simply equalized .... like that
          That's what long-term investments are called, plus there will be a base for training our athletes, which your Lenin and you did not bother to build.
          1. 0
            13 September 2012 13: 23
            Well, who with the base for our athletes does not agree to respond.
          2. -1
            13 September 2012 15: 21
            Quote: Allex28
            That's what long-term investments are called, plus there will be a base for training our athletes, which your Lenin and you did not bother to build.
            Well, and for what is there to put a minus, I do not understand your friends.
          3. MI-AS-72
            -1
            13 September 2012 20: 45
            Alekh, well, since you speak Russian it means Lenin and co, they still managed to build something and taught to read and write, although it may be that you were taught in some SS special school. As many as the USSR built for the common people, I think that at such a pace, Russia can never be built. And even under the German flag, athletes cannot be called OUR.
        3. 0
          13 September 2012 13: 43
          Quote: Isk1984
          but in 12 years, is it possible to create a team or not?

          Of course you can! Yes, it is created! But her goals are not the same ...... hi
          1. -2
            13 September 2012 13: 59
            Quote: nycsson
            Of course you can! Yes, it is created! But her goals are not the same ......
            Enlighten on goals, s
            1. 0
              13 September 2012 16: 12
              Right now .........
              Do you know what is the main goal of the state? I’m not even starting with this.
              There is a certain sequence in any control system, i.e.:

              GOAL-OBJECTIVES-FUNCTIONS-PROCEDURES-OPERATIONS-ACTIONS

              So, the main goal of any state, region, territory, municipality is REPRODUCTION OF THEIR POPULATION (for the gifted - this is when mortality does not exceed the birth rate) and the CREATION of COMFORTABLE CONDITIONS OF RESIDENCE without which this reproduction is not possible!
              Let it be known that since the 1991 of the year Russia has reduced its population by more than 10 million people, and this taking into account emigration to the Russian Federation from the CIS countries!
              So, if the state has such a goal, then for its implementation it is necessary to solve a number of TASKS! The question arises: what? Answer:
              1. Medical support of the population.
              2: Public Health
              3. Social security of the population (schools, kindergartens, assistance to those in need, etc.)
              4: Providing External Security
              5: Internal Security
              6. Provision of employment, etc.
              This is all theory. So, if to summarize, then about the goals and objectives of today's team, we can only guess ..........
  11. 0
    13 September 2012 13: 24
    Lenin, and how do you put it, have created such a basis that the USSR team did not know peer both at the summer and winter Olympiads ... and do you need statistics on this issue?
    1. -1
      13 September 2012 13: 31
      Just don’t bring me the statistics of the 80th, there weren’t very many strong athletes.
      1. MI-AS-72
        -1
        13 September 2012 20: 40
        Check out the 1988 statistics or you don't like it either.
    2. in reserve
      0
      13 September 2012 14: 18
      You are comparing a powerful strong state of the USSR with Russia, after the collapse of the Soviet Union in the early 90s, we continually climb out of the shit every now and then, and how many debts have been paid and only now there is an opportunity to restore and build something. All production facilities have long been outdated, not to mention the fact that we have machines exported from Germany after the Second World War. Despite the fact that the West is not very eager to help us modernize. Take the Jackson Broom Amendment in the United States.
      1. in reserve
        0
        13 September 2012 18: 01
        Allex28
        You and I, the ardent Leninists, have gone on a campaign, I’ve even been born in the USSR, but I’m not driving and I’m not raising IDOLS to myself, and I’d also remove the mausoleum from Red Square and bury Lenin’s body. I hope you zaminusuyut me. smile
  12. -1
    13 September 2012 14: 21
    Most likely there is a great strategy. Both the Olympics and the 2018 World Cup are part of this strategy. Just like the development of the Armed Forces. Russia is so great and powerful that the presence of occupation regimes in the territory that historically belonged to Russia means the Baltic states, administrative territories called "Moldova", "Ukraine", part of modern Romania, etc. they simply set an additional task for the Russian leadership to return the history of new debts that have appeared, in addition to those conceptual tasks that have not changed since the times of Peter 1 and Catherine II.
  13. +1
    13 September 2012 14: 28
    The worst thing is that we have a lot of beautiful words about the Motherland and patriotism, But the homeland is people, without them there is no homeland, People form everything that is called the Motherland. When our strategy for people will be, then life will be, and not existence for the majority of the population. Yesterday I have a friend of about the same age as me, I received a pension, he is disabled 2 groups, he has no legs, the second one also walks badly, after the accident, he received a pension of 5320 rubles. He’s got a headache, he cannot work, and who can will take. Now we will take patronage, the state we have in this matter, sorry for the expression shit.
  14. 0
    13 September 2012 15: 45
    RUSSIA-MATUS AS HAS BEEN, SO AND WILL REMAIN, ANYTHING FOR HER
  15. mind1954
    0
    13 September 2012 21: 43
    While in the country at least one penny of private capital is
    in the basic sectors of the economy, then there is only one
    "BASIC STRATEGY" - STRATEGY OF DESTRUCTION,
    RIPPING AND SALES OF THE COUNTRY, and ultimately
    total and DESTRUCTIONS !!!

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