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The names of the persons brought by Shoigu to responsibility for the participation of the company of the guard of honor in the wedding ceremony of the "Grand Duke" have not been named

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The names of the persons brought by Shoigu to responsibility for the participation of the company of the guard of honor in the wedding ceremony of the "Grand Duke" have not been named

Information has been confirmed that regular servicemen of the RF Armed Forces took part in the wedding ceremony of the “descendant of the House of Romanov” in St. Isaac's Cathedral in St. Petersburg.


Recall that we are talking about attracting the guard of honor, saluting the "Grand Duke" George and his chosen one - Italian Rebecca Bettarini. The ceremony, we recall, took place on October 1 and caused a stir. One of the main questions that was asked was the question of whether a company of the guard of honor from the Russian Armed Forces was involved in the ceremony, or whether they were representatives of some "creative teams" - "reenactors".

It turned out that it was the regular military who stood at attention and saluted.

The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced that the head of the department, Sergei Shoigu, “brought disciplinary responsibility to the officials of the Western Military District,” who made the decision to send the commandant's unit to a private event.

What exactly the announced prosecution was expressed, as well as who specifically made the decision to send the company of the guard of honor to the wedding of the "descendant of the Romanov dynasty" has not yet been reported.

It is stated that "the officials violated the regulations for the participation of the guard of honor in the events."

At the same time, attention is drawn to the fact that the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs does not recognize the so-called “imperial house of the Romanovs” (IDR) as any legitimate. In this regard, the participation of regular servicemen in the wedding ceremony of George and Rebecca in St. Petersburg raised questions even among those who recognize the legitimacy of the named association.
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  1. Lech from Android.
    Lech from Android. 7 October 2021 06: 09
    +59
    Of course, they lived to the point of absurdity. what
    Who commands the army ...? offspring of the Romanovs?
    Someone at the top fell ill with monarchism.
    However, knowledgeable people know who they are talking about.
    I hope it won't get censored.
    1. figwam
      figwam 7 October 2021 06: 19
      +7
      It reminds me of ...
      "Field troops, Potty regiments or Potty - a special formation of troops and forces for training and educating the soldiers of the" army of the new system "and their commanders from the subjects of the Russian kingdom, created by Tsarevich Peter Alekseevich. fun of the son of the prince's peers. "
      1. unhappy
        unhappy 7 October 2021 07: 44
        +7
        It reminds me of ...
        "Field troops, Field regiments or Field

        I represent the honor guard as part of the elite military forces of the state. Previously, these were "bodyguards" of the rulers of the state and the general staff, for example, the Swiss guard of the Vatican (in real life it was difficult to find a more formidable enemy). Now it looks like a show, these edged weapons have been bared, but they hardly know how to use them request
        1. AllBiBek
          AllBiBek 7 October 2021 18: 32
          +3
          Do you seriously think it's sharpened?
          1. unhappy
            unhappy 8 October 2021 06: 19
            0
            I guess they are wooden or plastic, the "reenactors" will have better lol
    2. Login_Off
      Login_Off 7 October 2021 06: 21
      +79
      I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?
      I came to the general to ask if he could or not, he said no! This violates statutes, orders and regulations.
      He took out a suitcase of bucks and again asked, "is it possible?"
      Well, you can, but you need to add a little more, for the reprimand.
      1. Svarog
        Svarog 7 October 2021 06: 25
        +32
        I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?

        For the loot, everything is now possible with us.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 7 October 2021 06: 29
          +67
          after the "arrival" of FSB graduates on "geliks", and the wedding of "academicians" in Chechnya, I am no longer surprised at anything, I am simply ashamed. what they turned the country into.
          1. carstorm 11
            carstorm 11 7 October 2021 06: 42
            -33
            Yes, leave you graduates alone) Youth. Everyone goes crazy on receiving epaulettes and graduation) in the Union, for example, my dad and his friends drove their caps in a taxi) one taxi to take them, the other to take their caps) border guards from our Khabarovsk academy have been renting all limousines in the city for graduation for many years) I will not write about my release)))) They distinguished themselves in full) It's just the last such nonsense. Then youth is all. Ended up. The service begins.
            1. tralflot1832
              tralflot1832 7 October 2021 06: 55
              +10
              They took caps and took a walk in the restaurant of the Pulkovo airport from Murmansk. Of course, they sent a guard to the wedding in vain.
              1. carstorm 11
                carstorm 11 7 October 2021 07: 07
                -2
                With the airport, it means we were not the only ones like that) And then I think everyone was puzzled by the list of guests from a bunch of royal houses, so someone didn’t have anything to do with money. At least I think so.
                1. Undecim
                  Undecim 7 October 2021 07: 50
                  +10
                  And there I think everyone was puzzled by the list of guests from a bunch of royal houses

                  What kind of "royal houses". Royal houses do not go to such ...
                  1. carstorm 11
                    carstorm 11 7 October 2021 08: 59
                    -1
                    I'm talking about a list) Who's there in real life is a little different) Find him. Looks impressive)
              2. isv000
                isv000 7 October 2021 17: 14
                +1
                Quote: tralflot1832
                They took caps and flew from Murmansk to take a walk in the restaurant of the Pulkovo airport.

                ... Polyarnye Zori, Meridian - everything worked until 23, then a taxi for a quarter and a ticket to St. Petersburg for 26 ... Yes hi drinks
                1. tralflot1832
                  tralflot1832 7 October 2021 17: 49
                  +2
                  And what to do if souls ask for the continuation of the banquet! hi drinks
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 7 October 2021 09: 28
            +19
            Quote: Dead Day
            after the "arrival" of FSB graduates on "geliks", and the wedding of "academicians" in Chechnya, I am no longer surprised at anything, I am simply ashamed. what they turned the country into.

            In their twisted reality, everything is serious.
            The head of the Russian Imperial House, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, bestowed titles of nobility on a number of contemporary figures in Russian politics and social life, thanks to which in the company of a dozen generals, awarded the Order of St. Nicholas the Wonderworkerwere the socialite Ksenia Sobchak, Patriarch Alexy II and the head of the Federal Security Service Nikolai Patrushev.
            Order of Nicholas the Wonderworker of the 1st degree, to which hereditary nobility is attached now, this is the only way to acquire this title, no one is simply awarded with the legitimate "nobility".
            So the appeal "your honor" may well return to itself wassat
            1. Overlock
              Overlock 7 October 2021 10: 00
              +16
              Quote: Stroporez
              In their twisted reality, everything is serious.
              The head of the Russian Imperial House, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna, bestowed titles of nobility on a number of contemporary figures in Russian politics and social life, thanks to which the secular lioness Ksenia Sobchak, Patriarch Alexy II and the head of the Federal Security Service Nikolai Patrushev were in the company of a dozen generals who were awarded the Order of Nicholas the Wonderworker.

              The most interesting thing is that they took it from the family, which blessed Hitler to destroy the USSR.

              How would it be that the awards were accepted from Hitler's hands?
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 7 October 2021 10: 09
                +5
                Quote: Overlock
                How would it be that the awards were accepted from Hitler's hands?

                Comrade, nushtovytakoegavariti, vysyvreti. laughing
            2. Flooding
              Flooding 7 October 2021 11: 06
              +4
              Quote: Stroporez
              The Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna bestowed titles of nobility on a number of contemporary figures in Russian politics and social life, thanks to which the socialite Ksenia Sobchak, Patriarch Alexy II and the head of the Federal Security Service Nikolai Patrushev were in the company of a dozen generals who were awarded the Order of Nicholas the Wonderworker.

              https://www.newsru.com/russia/06nov2007/imperia.html
              article for 2007
              nowhere else did I find information about the "rewarding" of the late Patriarch Alexy II.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 7 October 2021 11: 09
                +1
                Quote: Flood
                https://www.newsru.com/russia/06nov2007/imperia.html
                article for 2007
                nowhere else did I find information about the "rewarding" of the late Patriarch Alexy II.

                We now have many heroes under secret orders. Yes
                1. Flooding
                  Flooding 7 October 2021 11: 27
                  +5
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  We now have a lot of heroes under closed orders

                  are they so closed that only the newsru reporter and Stroporez know about them?
                  such an abundance of information
                  what prevents you from choosing something reliable in this abundance?
                  no, you manage to repost something that cannot be confirmed
                  and refer to closed decrees
            3. Rostislav Prokopenko
              Rostislav Prokopenko 7 October 2021 15: 14
              +3
              But this branch is SO MUCH smeared with one Austrian artist ...
              It was hoped that these were not entirely military (just with elements of uniform), but if a reprimand from Shoigu, then still the PKK. It's a pity. Those who made the decision to send them to this circus with horses should be fired.
              1. New Year day
                New Year day 7 October 2021 17: 50
                +2
                Quote: Rostislav Prokopenko
                Those who made the decision to send them to this circus with horses should be fired.

                Then - Shoigu on the way out! To whom does the Kremlin regiment belong?
                1. Cananecat
                  Cananecat 7 October 2021 20: 22
                  0
                  Quote: Silvestr
                  To whom does the Kremlin regiment belong?

                  to the FSO
            4. TAMBU
              TAMBU 9 October 2021 11: 43
              +1
              Head of the Russian Imperial House, Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna

              "... the head of the Russian imperial house" Grand Duchess "Maria Vladimirovna ...", if you write in Russian, then it is so correct ...
            5. Akuzenka
              Akuzenka 12 October 2021 11: 08
              +1
              Sergei Shoigu “brought the officials of the Western Military District to disciplinary responsibility,” who made the decision to send the commandant's unit to a private event.
              Aha, ordered to bring him a "suitcase of dough" and will not take it for the next barbecue with a bath ?!
              So the appeal "your honor" may well return to itself
              You're right, everything is heading towards this. Of course, pessimism, but lately it seems that soon "ours" will overshadow all the deeds of "the alcoholic Petit" and the "bloody clown". There will be flogging in the stable, to death, and stuff like that. To talk about great spirituality.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 12 October 2021 11: 45
                +1
                Quote: AKuzenka
                You're right, everything is heading towards this. Of course, pessimism, but lately it seems that soon "ours" will overshadow all the deeds of "the alcoholic Petit" and the "bloody clown". There will be flogging in the stable, to death, and stuff like that. To talk about great spirituality.

                If you look at vidos fsin, then everything is already there and even worse.
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2021 06: 34
          +14
          Quote: Svarog
          For the loot, everything is now possible with us.

          The people have become pliant with money. It's hard to imagine that I could participate in such a filthy disgusting show with epaulets on my shoulders. And it turns out there were such.
          1. Doctor
            Doctor 7 October 2021 06: 49
            +12
            The people have become pliant with money. It's hard to imagine that I could participate in such a filthy disgusting show with epaulets on my shoulders. And it turns out there were such.

            You are simply not a monarchist. laughing
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 October 2021 11: 48
              +14
              Quote: Arzt
              You are simply not a monarchist.

              I am a Stalinist to the core.
              1. Bshkaus
                Bshkaus 7 October 2021 16: 37
                -8
                I am a Stalinist to the core.

                Hour by hour is not easier wassat soldier
              2. Akuzenka
                Akuzenka 12 October 2021 11: 11
                0
                I am a Stalinist to the core.
                How not to recall the classic: "I would be glad to serve, it is sickening to serve!"
          2. Sidor Amenpodestovich
            Sidor Amenpodestovich 7 October 2021 07: 12
            +22
            Quote: tihonmarine
            The people have become pliant with money. It's hard to imagine that I could participate in such a filthy disgusting show with epaulets on my shoulders. And it turns out there were such.

            Once Bernard Shaw dropped the phrase that all women are corrupt. The Queen of England, learning about this, when meeting with him asked:
            "Is it true, sir, that you claim that all women are corrupt?"
            - Yes, your majesty.
            - And me too?! - the queen was indignant.
            “And you too, Your Majesty,” Shaw replied calmly.
            - And how much do I cost ?! - burst out from the queen.
            “Ten thousand pounds,” Shaw pointed out.
            - What, so cheap! - the queen was surprised.
            - You see, you are already bargaining, - the playwright smiled.

            Alas, in the overwhelming majority of cases, all adherence to principles ends at a certain price.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 October 2021 12: 08
              +6
              Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
              What, so cheap! - the queen was surprised.
              - You see, you are already bargaining, - the playwright smiled.

              Alas, in the overwhelming majority of cases, all adherence to principles ends at a certain price.

              Doctor, I live with a woman in her apartment. I clean, wash the dishes, do the repairs, bring home the money, and when she is in the mood, I have sex with her. Who am I: her husband or roommate? - You are a guest worker!
          3. Roman1970_1
            Roman1970_1 7 October 2021 07: 55
            +1
            Maybe there was such an offer that it was impossible to refuse.
            In general, the performers received the order and rolled it out, possibly free of charge.
            1. tihonmarine
              tihonmarine 7 October 2021 15: 07
              +2
              Quote: Roman1970_1
              Maybe there was such an offer that it was impossible to refuse.

              The Nazis thought the same when they burned down Russian huts.
          4. Igoresha
            Igoresha 7 October 2021 15: 02
            +2
            and what is it? the authorities ordered - to stand on guard, the authorities ordered - take the militia from the DPR to the border and hand him over to Ukraine
          5. New Year day
            New Year day 7 October 2021 17: 52
            +4
            Quote: tihonmarine
            It's hard to imagine that I could participate in such a filthy disgusting show with epaulets on my shoulders. And it turns out there were such.

            There were those who fired from tanks at the White House for money, but they just threw suckers and had to scatter to different garrisons because of the "love" of colleagues
        3. Murmur 55
          Murmur 55 7 October 2021 07: 30
          +1
          No, not for the money.
          For a lot of money.
        4. Paranoid50
          Paranoid50 7 October 2021 09: 22
          -6
          Quote: Svarog
          For the loot, everything is now possible with us.

          So, take and sign, with a wide stroke ... fellow laughing
          Therefore, we will write down: For the money Svarozhek is ready for anything. Yes am bully
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 October 2021 15: 11
            +4
            Quote: Paranoid50
            For the money Svarozhek is ready for anything.

            Well, not Svarozhek, he was on the guard of honor at Grishka Otrepiev's wedding, and there were real officers and soldiers.
            1. New Year day
              New Year day 7 October 2021 17: 54
              +4
              Quote: tihonmarine
              and there were real officers and soldiers.

              The best! But corrupt!
          2. New Year day
            New Year day 7 October 2021 17: 53
            +2
            Quote: Paranoid50
            For the money Svarozhek is ready for anything

            Not seen in the PKK, but Putin's entourage lit up. So who is the corrupt one?
        5. fruc
          fruc 7 October 2021 09: 41
          +2
          The corruption component is evident. And the horses were there?
          1. AllBiBek
            AllBiBek 7 October 2021 18: 34
            +1
            Were
            The Bronze Horseman is not far away.
            Today I passed by, they didn't seem to be stolen.
        6. AllBiBek
          AllBiBek 7 October 2021 18: 33
          0
          Excuse me, but you have - where is, and - will you give examples?
      2. Snail N9
        Snail N9 7 October 2021 06: 56
        +5
        No, not like that: no one came to the general and did not ask, they called him from above. Yes
        1. Stas157
          Stas157 7 October 2021 07: 15
          +8
          Quote: Snail N9
          they called him from above

          Quite possibly. The formal punishment for this only confirms this option.
          1. vitvit123
            vitvit123 7 October 2021 07: 54
            +2
            Do you know what the punishment was? And to whom?
            1. Stas157
              Stas157 7 October 2021 08: 28
              +12
              Quote: vitvit123
              Do you know what was there a punishment? AND whom ?

              And we will not find out. It is this anonymity that testifies to the mildness of the punishment and its formality. Yes, it could not be used at all!
              1. Svarog
                Svarog 7 October 2021 10: 04
                +4

                Video in the topic ..
      3. vladcub
        vladcub 7 October 2021 07: 31
        +2
        Here is the answer. I really doubt George had a "suitcase of bucks". Probably someone paid for this show, but for what purpose?
        As a rule: "the pimple won't jump up for nothing"
      4. den3080
        den3080 7 October 2021 08: 24
        +5
        Quote: Login_Off
        I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?
        I came to the general to ask if he could or not, he said no! This violates statutes, orders and regulations.
        He took out a suitcase of bucks and again asked, "is it possible?"
        Well, you can, but you need to add a little more, for the reprimand.

        Well, this is how the local mayor and military officials refer to the company of the guard of honor, to the honor of the RF Armed Forces. Private Sabantuy, organized by someone unknown.
        We rented out ... soldiers.
        The churchmen also have questions about St. Isaac's Cathedral. Is any crook honored for the loot?
        Well, in principle, the bandits in the 90s dumped a lot of crunching priests. Criminal.
      5. Ross xnumx
        Ross xnumx 7 October 2021 09: 19
        0
        Quote: Login_Off
        I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?

        I, too, could not imagine retired officers as a doorman or hostess in restaurants and hotels in St. Petersburg in the late 80s and early 90s ...
        I know one who, being a colonel, wanted to go to work as a taxi driver ... lol
      6. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 7 October 2021 09: 22
        +2
        I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?
        as well as a booze of some new "masters of life" on the cruiser Aurora -
        https://www.newsru.com/russia/10jun2009/avroraparty.html
      7. Mwg
        Mwg 7 October 2021 09: 33
        +3
        It's not about the bubble. Rather, in it, but on a different level. The incomprehensible movements around the "House of Romanovs" are all an echo of attempts by the financial behind the scenes to legally recognize the current Hohenzollerns as the heirs of Nicholas II, with their subsequent acceptance of the vast inheritance of the Russian last tsar. With the subsequent transfer of property "as a gift" to the initiators of the action.
        My private opinion.
        1. New Year day
          New Year day 7 October 2021 17: 57
          +1
          Quote: MVG
          This is all an echo of attempts by the financial behind the scenes to legally recognize the current Hohenzollerns as the heirs of Nicholas II, with their subsequent acceptance of the vast inheritance of the Russian last tsar.

          I'm surprised at you! All together beat their foreheads for the tsar, and here he prepares a successor. What are the questions for Putin? Everything goes in one direction - chaos
          1. Mwg
            Mwg 7 October 2021 18: 51
            0
            No-no-no, "... they are beating the tsar with the forehead, and here he is preparing a successor." that is unlikely. Monarchism was buried in the 20th century, the trend died, "died, so died"
      8. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 October 2021 15: 45
        +9
        Quote: Login_Off
        I just can't imagine how you can send a guard of honor to a private party?

        Not everything is so simple, because ....

        and other patrons are available
        1. Wolf
          Wolf 7 October 2021 16: 14
          +2
          Straight to the point! wink
    3. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 7 October 2021 06: 29
      +15
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Of course, they lived to the point of absurdity.
      Who commands the army ...? offspring of the Romanovs?

      If only the "Romanov" offspring, and then various international swindlers and offspring of small principalities and royal families of Europe.
      The Bolsheviks were very stubborn guys, and they massacred the entire Romanov family to the last.
      They knew what it might smell like if at least one is left alive, so there are no "Romanovichs", but there are intrigues of the West and the State Department.
      1. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 7 October 2021 06: 33
        +21
        After all, some of the generals gave the order to send soldiers to the party of the monarchists ... you can't blame it on the intrigues of the West and the State Department ...
        Something in the general's brains pereklinit ... lured the army with a circus performance.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2021 06: 40
          +7
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          After all, some of the generals gave the order to send soldiers to the party of the monarchists

          Rather, a "coven of witches". Someone gave it for loot, or a corrupt sheise, but here are the soldiers and officers, how they carried out the order. It is necessary to drive them all out of the army, as if they had stained themselves with mud.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 7 October 2021 06: 43
          +18
          beguiled the army with a circus performance.
          Your entire comment is incorrect. We all got overwhelmed when we agreed to consider the Romanov tricolor the state flag. I remember how this prYntz was taken to the country back in the early 90s. The show goes on. Many are finding themselves high in power. in fact, they are still slaves, if they bow before the West and the pseudo-Romanists.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 October 2021 12: 11
            +1
            Quote: Gardamir
            Many are finding themselves high in power. in fact, they are still slaves, if they bow before the West and the pseudo-Romanists.

            A slave cannot be free, he is a slave for life. Such is their fate.
        3. AUL
          AUL 7 October 2021 07: 53
          +5
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          After all, one of the generals gave the order to send soldiers to the party of the monarchists.

          Business, nothing personal! The general has turned up a profitable gesheft, do not let him pass by the nose? And then colleagues will cease to respect!
        4. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 7 October 2021 09: 22
          +1
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Something in the general's brains pereklinit ... lured the army with a circus performance.

          And you should know that parades and various manipulations of personnel with small arms and cold weapons are indirectly related to the army service and the tasks of the Armed Forces ... Yes
        5. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2021 13: 07
          +4
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          After all, some of the generals gave the order to send soldiers to the party of the monarchists ... you can't blame it on the machinations of the West and the State Department ..

          The generals could, but this is how the ROC sold St. Isaac's Cathedral to a bunch of swindlers and Russophobes, this is already serious. Moreover, the Metropolitan of St. Petersburg and Ladoga Varsonuphius performed the rite of wedding ceremony of the Grand Duke Georgy Mikhailovich Romanov and Victoria Romanovna Bettarini.
          So he must be excommunicated from the church, or locked up as a monk in a monastery.
        6. New Year day
          New Year day 7 October 2021 18: 02
          +5
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          Something in the general's brains pereklyuvala ..

          What can cross where there is nothing? A star loomed or loot. It has long been known how generals solve their financial issues with the help of their subordinates. Shamanov sent a platoon of special forces of the Airborne Forces to guard the daughter's store - and nothing. And what about the summer cottages? And what about the constant criminal cases because of the army's schenia? Another general bought Russian field radios at a very good price, but they turned out to be Chinese bullshit at a very low price. This is how the defense of the country is strengthened laughing
      2. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 7 October 2021 07: 15
        +3
        Quote: tihonmarine

        The Bolsheviks were very stubborn guys, and they exterminated the entire Romanov family by the roots.

        There is no need to ascribe other people's exploits to the Bolsheviks.
      3. faiver
        faiver 7 October 2021 07: 33
        +3
        The Bolsheviks were very stubborn guys, and they exterminated the entire Romanov family by the roots.
        - Are they Bolsheviks?
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2021 18: 00
          0
          Quote: faiver
          - Are they Bolsheviks?

          Well, who then carved out their kind.
      4. WIKI
        WIKI 7 October 2021 08: 10
        +2
        Quote: tihonmarine
        so there are no "Romanovichs", but there are intrigues of the West and the State Department.

        But what about the monument to the Russian Emperor Alexander III in the Gatchina Palace, opened with the participation of the GDP and the guard of honor. In 2017, Putin personally unveiled a monument to the Tsar in Crimea. A bad analogy can be seen.
        1. zwlad
          zwlad 7 October 2021 08: 24
          +4
          Checking the electorate for "monarchism".
          1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
            Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 7 October 2021 09: 28
            -12
            Ничего подобного.
            The President paid tribute to the history of Russia and those who created this history, in particular - the sovereigns.
            As for the monarchy for Russia, before spitting and throwing stones at me, answer at least your own question: And how did Putin or any of the Soviet secretaries general differ from the Sovereign Emperor?
            I have a very high suspicion that having discipled the uprising of the Decembrists, the assassination of Tsar Emperor Alexander II, and Tsar Emperor Nicholas II with the whole family, having unleashed a terrible, bloody, destructive fratricidal civil war, our revolutionaries eventually gave birth to ... the same monarchy !!! which has only three differences from the traditional one for Russia:
            1. The monarchy has ceased to be hereditary. The monarch began to be elected.
            2. The monarchy has become ultra clerical in its essence - the theory of Karl Marx was elevated to the rank of a state religion, the work (scientific work) "Capital" was actually turned into a newly minted Bible. The works of Lenin and others are in the works of the Church Fathers ...
            3. The house of the Romanovs was removed from power.

            So why are you so annoyed by the actual House of Romanovs or the prospect of the erection of one of the descendants of the Romanov family to the Throne of Russia?

            PS "The Russian people, as one mouth, swore allegiance to the Romanov family until the second coming of Christ" - the murder of Tsar Nicholas II with family members is certainly a great sin, but did the Romanov family liberate the Russian people from the earlier given oath ???
            Maybe the misfortunes and calamities that struck Russia and the Russian people after the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II with family members is nothing more than punishment for perjury?
            1. zwlad
              zwlad 7 October 2021 09: 42
              -2
              And how did Putin or any of the Soviet secretaries general differ from the Sovereign Emperor?

              Nothing, I have not argued otherwise.
              So why are you so annoyed by the actual House of Romanovs or the prospect of the erection of one of the descendants of the Romanov family to the Throne of Russia?

              Nicholas II, how could I write it mildly, at one time profiled the Empire, and for this he was elevated to the rank of saints.
              I really do not want to repeat this story.
              And yes, I have nothing against the appointment of VVP as the monarch and the abolition of the Duma and the Federation Council.
              1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
                Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 7 October 2021 09: 50
                +5
                Quote: zwlad
                Nicholas II, how could I write it mildly, at one time profiled the Empire, and for this he was elevated to the rank of saints.

                But I agree with this !!! And frankly outraged !!!
                Even kill, I can neither understand nor get from the priests (at least those with whom I discussed this topic) a clear answer: why exactly Nicholas II was elevated to the rank of saints ...
                Particularly touching is the answer to the question: Tsar Nicholas II and members of his family are saints ... well, let's say. However, why the doctor and the sailor-nanny who were under the Tsarevich, the lackey, who were also shot by the Bolsheviks together with the Emperor's family, are not recognized as saints ???
                Answer: but we do not have a corresponding canon! For the Emperor there is, for the members of his family there is, but for others - no!
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 7 October 2021 09: 57
                +4
                Quote: zwlad
                And yes, I have nothing against the appointment of VVP as the monarch and the abolition of the Duma and the Federation Council.

                That's nice, I'll support you! After all, the theater of the absurd called the Russian Federation lacks the last touch ... "Volodka for the kingdom."
                But how does it sound, the great clan of Kabaev-Putin! Lovely!
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 7 October 2021 11: 02
                  +2
                  But you can't blame the boyars (the Duma, the government). You messed up yourself - answer it yourself (get popular discontent).
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 7 October 2021 11: 05
                    +9
                    Quote: zwlad
                    But you can't blame the boyars (the Duma, the government). You messed up yourself - answer it yourself (get popular discontent).

                    Colleague, do not be naive, there is still mattress, the Baltochukhons, like locals, and the reptilians, at last, will not allow us to develop these freedom. So do not flatter yourself, the enemies are not asleep.
                    1. zwlad
                      zwlad 7 October 2021 11: 07
                      +2
                      there is also mattress, Baltochukhons, like locals, and finally, reptilians

                      Eh. I forgot about these things.
                      1. Sling cutter
                        Sling cutter 7 October 2021 11: 17
                        +8
                        Quote: zwlad
                        Eh. I forgot about these things.

                        Comrade! How could you ??? Around the enemies and agents of the 125th convoy !!!
                      2. zwlad
                        zwlad 7 October 2021 13: 06
                        0
                        Well, somehow tG!
              3. Hypertension
                Hypertension 7 October 2021 11: 18
                +5
                Quote: zwlad
                And yes, I have nothing against the appointment of VVP as the monarch and the abolition of the Duma and the Federation Council.

                How. In Russia, there are not only neo-aristocrats, but also neoholops have a place to be ...
                1. zwlad
                  zwlad 7 October 2021 13: 09
                  -2
                  Yeah. And there are also liberals and crap.
                  Whose will you be?
                2. Revival
                  Revival 8 October 2021 17: 48
                  +2
                  There are so many of them, that's why everything else exists.
              4. zwlad
                zwlad 7 October 2021 13: 25
                -4
                Minusators!
                As I understand it, you are either defending Nicholas II or against VVP?
                Well, or as an option, the deputies of the State Duma or the Federation Council?
              5. Andrey Chizhevsky
                Andrey Chizhevsky 7 October 2021 15: 00
                -3
                God be with you! Nicholas and elevated to the rank of a great martyr not for his deeds - deeds ... They just killed his children with him - and they were somehow not right to the rank of saints without a father ... So they all were raised together ...
            2. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 7 October 2021 09: 54
              +14
              Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
              Maybe the misfortunes and calamities that struck Russia and the Russian people after the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II with family members is nothing more than punishment for perjury?

              It's true! After all, on the Khadynsky field, the people trampled themselves, and on bloody Sunday they shot themselves, then accidentally drowned at Tsushima and independently mobilized and declared war on Germany in the 14th.
              1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
                Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 7 October 2021 10: 15
                -8
                Quote: Stroporez
                Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
                Maybe the misfortunes and calamities that struck Russia and the Russian people after the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II with family members is nothing more than punishment for perjury?

                It's true! After all, on the Khadynsky field, the people trampled themselves, and on bloody Sunday they shot themselves, then accidentally drowned at Tsushima and independently mobilized and declared war on Germany in the 14th.


                Khodynka, Tsushima ... these are the GREATEST TRAGEDIES and, you see, the Emperor is not the only one who was to blame for this ...
                As for the bloody Sunday, this is certainly also a tragedy. A terrible, bloody tragedy, but ... with its absurdity and uselessness, it very much looks like a monstrous political provocation.
                After all, the Tsar himself was not in the Winter Palace that day ... and, as far as I understand, he was not even really informed about what happened ...
                And the interest of the Tsar himself in that execution is very doubtful ...
                But organizing such a provocation in order to throw mud at the Sovereign, compromise, provoke the wrath of the most respectable public, turn society against the Sovereign is quite suitable ...

                However, in any case, the Russian people swore an oath of loyalty and this oath has not been canceled until now !!!
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 7 October 2021 10: 30
                  +9
                  Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
                  However, in any case, the Russian people swore an oath of loyalty and this oath has not been canceled until now !!!

                  Listen, Midshipman, in general, I do not mind that the inhabitants without a "king in their head" finally shoved him into their heads, they do not care who the children of the Lord swear allegiance to, then the empire, then the Bolsheviks, then the thimblers.
                  I propose Khuzhenetovich as tsar, everything is fine with the pedigree, from the party nomenklatura, dignified, uniform to the face, portraits on horseback, a good recipient, not old yet, all daughters are all officers, and a member of the Order of Malta, again a plus.
                2. Andrey Chizhevsky
                  Andrey Chizhevsky 7 October 2021 15: 03
                  +3
                  And Nicholas himself freed the Russian people from the oath by signing an abdication - so there is no need to smear the tsar with lamp oil .. He was already pretty much used up with this oil without us!
                  1. tihonmarine
                    tihonmarine 12 October 2021 11: 36
                    0
                    Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
                    And Nicholas himself freed the Russian people from the oath by signing a renunciation - so there is no need to smear the tsar with lamp oil.

                    He betrayed the people, betrayed the dynasty, betrayed his ancestors, betrayed Orthodoxy and Holy
                    yu Rus. And what had to be done with him?
                3. Gaersul
                  Gaersul 8 October 2021 16: 24
                  0
                  Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
                  However, in any case, the Russian people swore an oath of loyalty and this oath has not been canceled until now !!!

                  Citizen Romanov abdicated the throne? Renounced! The oath is not valid!
                4. Revival
                  Revival 8 October 2021 17: 50
                  +1
                  Chhat on such an "oath" and on similar "monarchs", the people were treated like cattle, what kind of oath !?
                  Who is it so that it is more important and more important?
            3. Gaersul
              Gaersul 8 October 2021 16: 21
              0
              Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
              Maybe the misfortunes and calamities that struck Russia and the Russian people after the assassination of Tsar Nicholas II with family members is nothing more than punishment for perjury?

              What do I see? Justification for Fascism? Justification of Salaspils and the Red Bank?
              1. Andrey Chizhevsky
                Andrey Chizhevsky 12 October 2021 11: 55
                -1
                But what does fascism have to do with Nicholas's abdication in what way influenced the spelling of "Mine Kapf"?
        2. ugol2
          ugol2 7 October 2021 08: 53
          +14
          I do not see any connection between the opening of the monument to the Emperor and the booth show in St. Isaac's Cathedral.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 7 October 2021 18: 04
            +3
            Quote: ugol2
            I do not see any connection between the opening of the monument to the Emperor and the booth show in St. Isaac's Cathedral.

            Exactly, the people "confuse God's gift with scrambled eggs"
        3. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 7 October 2021 18: 03
          +1
          Quote: WIKI
          But what about the monument to the Russian Emperor Alexander III in the Gatchina Palace, opened with the participation of the GDP and the guard of honor.

          So from Alexander the Third was the legitimate emperor of Russia, and not some kind of offspring of unknown whose - Grishka Otrepiev.
      5. Mwg
        Mwg 7 October 2021 09: 35
        -3
        With all due respect, you are clearly romanticizing the Bolsheviks.
      6. CYM
        CYM 7 October 2021 12: 07
        -5
        Quote: tihonmarine
        The Bolsheviks were very stubborn guys, and they exterminated the entire Romanov family by the roots.

        This is not the only and not the most plausible version https://versia.ru/rasstrela-carskoj-semi-v-realnosti-ne-bylo
        Or do you really believe that the money for industrialization suddenly came out of nowhere, and King George VI in 1943 ordered the award sword of Stalingrad to be handed over to the regicides. winked
    4. HMR333
      HMR333 7 October 2021 10: 28
      -11
      Only here people like you do not respect history and rulers! Not in any other country this is not observed everywhere with respect for their kings and the emperor!
      1. zwlad
        zwlad 7 October 2021 11: 06
        +7
        Yeah. Especially the French distinguished themselves by their respect and love.
        If my memory serves me more than once.
    5. Alexga
      Alexga 7 October 2021 10: 57
      +4
      I think that the biggest problem is that the State lacks the concept of "what is good and what is bad." This used to be called ideology.
    6. Hypertension
      Hypertension 7 October 2021 11: 13
      +13
      And how could Shoigu punish someone if he himself is now an "aristocrat" of the pre-revolutionary subtype:

      Surely Shoigu knew about everything, therefore the names were not named. They have their own special atmosphere in the government. They have their own time there, like Putin's on the clock, and their own era - pre-revolutionary. No wonder Navka said about Peskov that he was a White Guard.
      1. Snail N9
        Snail N9 7 October 2021 11: 30
        +8
        Just imagine, what if "it turns out by chance" that Medvedev is "a descendant of the house of the Romanovs", for some sort of "line"? wink They say it looks like "nikolashka" ... recourse
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 7 October 2021 12: 27
          +9
          Quote: Snail N9
          "it turns out by chance" that Medvedev is "a descendant of the house of the Romanovs"

          Medvedev is a descendant of a sleeping princess. laughing
      2. mojohed2012
        mojohed2012 12 October 2021 11: 24
        0
        Well, obviously, Shoigu is against the sect of "citizens of the USSR"! But whether the "emperor of Russia" is a member of the sect is a question. I remember the former Crimean prosecutor was a member of the Nikonian sect. I went around with the icon of Nicholas 2. Looks like there was a breakdown from shock after fleeing from Svidomo 404.
        1. Hypertension
          Hypertension 12 October 2021 15: 44
          0
          Quote: mojohed2012
          But whether the "emperor of Russia" is a member of the sect is a question.

          Who knows ... But the fact that he is a "Knight of the Order of Malta" is a fact. And Emperor Paul was the master of this order.
    7. And Us Rat
      And Us Rat 7 October 2021 12: 38
      +3
      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Of course, they lived to the point of absurdity.

      On the contrary, this is a test of the reaction of the population, then mayors, governors and other neo-feudal lords will officially declare themselves nobility and return serfdom. wassat

      Quote: Lech from Android.
      Someone at the top fell ill with monarchism.

      Doubtful, they just gave it to anyone who needs it.
    8. sustav75
      sustav75 7 October 2021 16: 08
      +3
      In the early 90s, the entire army changed the hammer and sickle for the royal two-headed eagle! So what?! They betrayed their homeland. Changed the oath! There were of course officers of honor, but they were finished off in the 93rd year in the White House. Sniper Alpha and Vympel worked well, for the promised benefits from Borka the drunk ...
      1. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 7 October 2021 18: 07
        +2
        Quote: sustav75
        Sniper Alpha and Vympel worked well, for the promised benefits from Borka the drunk ...

        About "Baitar" was not mentioned.
    9. 210ox
      210ox 7 October 2021 18: 06
      +5
      Why are they making noise! We live in the theater of the absurd. It's time to get used to the fact that everything is bought and sold. Including laws, moral ethics, the Charter in the end ...
    10. mojohed2012
      mojohed2012 12 October 2021 11: 22
      0
      Self-proclaimed freaks rule over entire companies of the RF Armed Forces. Obviously, not every soldier earned for this, but someone in the district headquarters, sympathizing not with the monarchy, but with his own wealth.
      There is a principle at the top - if a person is needed at the post, or even though he is thieving, but comfortable - he can be abused a little. And we will tell everyone that "PUNISHED".
  2. Dimy4
    Dimy4 7 October 2021 06: 16
    +21
    At the same time, attention is drawn to the fact that the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs does not recognize the so-called “imperial house of the Romanovs” (IDR) as any legitimate.

    In general, there should be no difference whether someone recognizes them, does not recognize them, does not recognize them. in 1917, history erased this name from the life of Russia, making room for a more progressive political order. And these persons, who "out of the kindness of their soul" provided the guard of honor, committed a crime.
    1. Andrey Moskvin
      Andrey Moskvin 7 October 2021 06: 21
      +6
      This is worse than a crime, this is a mistake. laughing
  3. Humpty
    Humpty 7 October 2021 06: 20
    +17
    At the place of the guard of honor, there were supposed to be artists of the gypsy theater, preferably with a bear.
    1. Pilot
      Pilot 7 October 2021 07: 33
      +4
      So it's already fun without the gypsies, or it will still be up to 24 years. lol
      1. Mwg
        Mwg 7 October 2021 09: 37
        0
        Don't you think that this excerpt from the film is very reminiscent of today's giggles from Ukraine to the Russian Federation?
        1. Pilot
          Pilot 7 October 2021 09: 55
          +5
          I don’t know how it’s 404, but the plotter is quite suitable .. Too much has become one minister on the information field lately, and this is not without reason ... wink
        2. Mwg
          Mwg 7 October 2021 17: 13
          -1
          Oh, liberal hamsters after strawberries with cocaine woke up: they rushed to put traditional minuses))))))))))))))))))))))))
    2. aglet
      aglet 7 October 2021 11: 55
      +8
      "Artists of the gypsy theater were supposed to be in the place of the guard of honor"
      why? the newlywed himself looks like a gypsy
      ... Wasn't he in the video for Garik?
    3. CYM
      CYM 7 October 2021 12: 34
      +4
      Vaudeville "Romalov's Wedding". lol
      1. Humpty
        Humpty 7 October 2021 12: 44
        +4
        Whatever one may say, the booth is credited.
        1. CYM
          CYM 7 October 2021 12: 51
          +2
          Her, no bear trash. laughing
          1. Andrey Chizhevsky
            Andrey Chizhevsky 7 October 2021 15: 08
            0
            And the bear must carry in its paws a hefty bottle of moonshine, and at the same time must be dressed in a hat - with earflaps and bast shoes. laughing
            1. Mwg
              Mwg 7 October 2021 16: 34
              +1
              You forgot about the accordion)))))))))))))))
              1. Andrey Chizhevsky
                Andrey Chizhevsky 7 October 2021 16: 36
                0
                How did you forget? She is behind the bear in the "marching" position! laughing
  4. Crowe
    Crowe 7 October 2021 06: 21
    +22
    participation of a company of the guard of honor in the wedding ceremony of the "Grand Duke"
    "This is some ... shame." ©
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 7 October 2021 06: 30
      +4
      the question is why the main thing was not there ...
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 7 October 2021 09: 43
        +6
        Quote: Dead Day
        the question is why the main thing was not there ...

        tsar-father are busy, sir, sir Yes
      2. Svarog
        Svarog 7 October 2021 09: 51
        +2
        Quote: Dead Day
        the question is why the main thing was not there ...

        Who knows .. who knows .. maybe it was))
      3. CYM
        CYM 7 October 2021 13: 02
        +4
        The MAIN was not busy, they ordered to bow to Liza Peskov and sent the "Kremlin chef" to regale the guests. winked https://novayagazeta.ru/articles/2021/10/01/kalashnyi-obriad
    2. Cat Alexandrovich
      Cat Alexandrovich 7 October 2021 06: 48
      +9
      Everywhere they write - a company, a company, a company ... They seem to have crushed the companies ... About 10 people - this is a company after heavy battles for the tsar-father. laughing
  5. Mityasha
    Mityasha 7 October 2021 06: 21
    +21
    And what to look for here, the soldiers followed the order. Further up, given the "importance" of the event, the decision was made at least in the command of the district. And there are green pieces of paper or the "imperial" badge, maybe the count's title. Like clowns (like obscenities), they went completely crazy. Some look like a guy who has done a real male act, three scumbags are wetting, others are playing in the monarchy. In this case, not disciplinary action, but dismissal under a negative article.
    Rolled down, military honors for impostors. Directly - "the crown of the Russian Empire, it remains to find the second impostor and what would be a public fight ... laughing
    1. Lech from Android.
      Lech from Android. 7 October 2021 06: 29
      +5
      This is how they undermine respect for the army ... this should be stopped in the bud and the guilty should be punished mercilessly.
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 7 October 2021 06: 31
      +1
      Quote: Mityasha
      Directly - "the crown of the Russian Empire, it remains to find the second impostor and what would be a public fight ...

      good laughing laughing laughing laughing laughing
    3. Pilot
      Pilot 7 October 2021 06: 40
      +2
      Quote: Mityasha
      Directly - "the crown of the Russian Empire, it remains to find the second impostor and what would be a public fight ... laughing
      Why look for him, judging by the article, the fight has already begun .. laughing
      1. Mityasha
        Mityasha 7 October 2021 06: 43
        +2
        "Serve, you argue apolitically, yes ..."
        In general, it is dangerous to throw stones in the TU side wink
  6. Obi-Wan Kenobi
    Obi-Wan Kenobi 7 October 2021 06: 25
    +8
    And so the minister licked one place to the descendant of "Nicholas the Bloody".
    How disgusting it is!
    Lived! Everyone, put out the light - throw a grenade!
    And the soldiers, I think so, have nothing to do with it. They just followed the order.
    1. Nafanya from the sofa
      Nafanya from the sofa 7 October 2021 06: 46
      +5
      a descendant of "Nicholas the Bloody".

      The "Vladimirovichi" are not the descendants of Nicholas II. They are distant relatives.
      1. Obi-Wan Kenobi
        Obi-Wan Kenobi 7 October 2021 06: 55
        +5
        They are distant relatives

        Horseradish radish is not sweeter.
        There was no such "garbage" under Soviet rule.
  7. 1536
    1536 7 October 2021 06: 32
    +7
    The so-called "House of Romanovs" lost power at the beginning of the XNUMXth century because it made a mess in Russia. It seems that history repeats itself, since the participation of the heirs of the traditions and victories of the Red Army at the "royal ceremony" can only be called a mess.
    1. Nafanya from the sofa
      Nafanya from the sofa 7 October 2021 07: 00
      +7
      So, on the night of June 5-6, 2009, a private party was held on the Aurora cruiser for the participants of the St. Petersburg Economic Forum: Shnur and Tina Kandelaki entertained the audience; other.

      I could not find who was then punished. "People were eating".
  8. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 7 October 2021 06: 34
    +4
    ***
    Drive through the line ...
    ***
  9. askort154
    askort154 7 October 2021 06: 41
    +11
    It is stated that "the officials violated the regulations for the participation of the guard of honor in the events."

    This is not just a violation of the rules, it is immoral in relation to the symbols of the country. At this rate, the guard of honor will begin to be invited to the weddings of the Kirkor-Basque.
    1. Silver bullet
      Silver bullet 7 October 2021 07: 26
      +10
      The Kirkorov-Baskovs have their own guard, cock.
      And on the site of the Petersburgers it was necessary during this Sabbath to arrange the installation "Taking of the Winter Palace" and to throw a blank shot from the "Aurora" (the administrators will not miss another suitable word). Surround the renegades and sing "Internationale"!
  10. Olfred
    Olfred 7 October 2021 06: 42
    +3
    wedding ceremony of the "descendant of the Romanov dynasty"

    This is what it turns out: "God save the king"?
    Suddenly from somewhere it smelled of autocracy wassat
    hi
    1. vladcub
      vladcub 7 October 2021 07: 53
      +2
      I don’t hear this song. By the way, the co-authors of "God Save the Tsar" were Nicholas 1 and Pushkin, he wrote the first stanza: "Reign in fear of enemies" and beyond
  11. Dikson
    Dikson 7 October 2021 06: 59
    +9
    Well, what will you do, retirees, with your clucking? .. Money rules the country. If the army under the guise of "defense of the Fatherland" fights for oil derricks in Syria, which is not ours, drives pirates from alien ships off the coast of Somalia, which is alien to us, in the person of contract soldiers of the notorious "PMC Wagner" (what a good cover, right?), The very fact of which violates the constitution of our country, fighting for resources in Africa, why not order a comical company with checkers to stand at the wedding ceremony for a small denyuzhku? Do you pay the priests money? And what are the generals worse? Otherwise, the guys from this company don't have any serious work ... - a couple of posts, but endless drill .. Nowadays we have few foreign guests, for whom the plane ramps go into frustration .. - all that remains is to earn extra money at weddings ..
    1. Mityasha
      Mityasha 7 October 2021 07: 13
      +8
      There are different people here, clucking elsewhere. There is a war going on, and in war all means are good.
      "... - Well, you have a lot of money and what will you do?"
      And the army is not under cover, but for protection at distant approaches! Contractors in PMCs are a good thing, training and experience, + earnings. But the tasks of the PKK are completely transparent, and it is far from going to weddings ...
    2. vladcub
      vladcub 7 October 2021 08: 03
      +2
      "in Syria, a stranger to us," does it mean to urgently take Assad out?
      Is it okay that Tartus is our only base in the Mediterranean Sea?
      Then bring in the Half-witted Madura too? While Chavez was alive and there was order, and the trolleybus driver did not drive
  12. Artem76
    Artem76 7 October 2021 07: 25
    +3
    - An officer! You've lost your honor!
    - Yes?! Can you tell me exactly where you came across it, sir?
  13. oracul
    oracul 7 October 2021 07: 35
    +7
    The fact that the guard of honor was used at the wedding of the impostor is, of course, shameful, but this only confirms the erosion of society towards Western tolerance. And all because we do not have an ideology that absorbs the best that was in our history, but it is like a confusion in our heads.
  14. Boromir1941
    Boromir1941 7 October 2021 07: 44
    +1
    You read it, and you immediately understand that this is nonsense
  15. vladcub
    vladcub 7 October 2021 07: 44
    +2
    [quote = Snail N9] No, not like that: no one came to the general and did not ask, they called him from above. :
    We don't need George 1. "Bolivar will not stand two (s). In the" first priest "the place is taken
  16. DenVB
    DenVB 7 October 2021 07: 51
    +1
    head of department Sergei Shoigu "brought the officials of the Western Military District to disciplinary responsibility"

    And what is the responsibility? For the military commander of St. Petersburg - an outfit out of turn?
  17. GRIGORIY76
    GRIGORIY76 7 October 2021 08: 31
    +5
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Who commands the army ...?


    Tuvan, whose small homeland is one of the poorest regions of the Russian Federation, and the capital of the region is among the leaders in the development of crime.
  18. Million
    Million 7 October 2021 08: 40
    +2
    It would be better if it was a creative team, at least they would not disgrace the army ..
  19. Nikolaevich I
    Nikolaevich I 7 October 2021 08: 43
    +3
    At the same time, attention is drawn to the fact that the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs does not recognize the so-called “imperial house of the Romanovs” (IDR) as any legitimate. That's it! The media has more than once considered the topic of the legality (illegality) of the "imperial house of the Romanovs" ... -simply ... these are impostors!
    1. Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
      Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich 7 October 2021 14: 35
      +1
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      At the same time, attention is drawn to the fact that the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs does not recognize the so-called “imperial house of the Romanovs” (IDR) as any legitimate. That's it! The media has more than once considered the topic of the legality (illegality) of the "imperial house of the Romanovs" ... -simply ... these are impostors!


      That's just the point !!! Do the descendants of the Romanovs themselves do not understand that such shows dishonor both themselves (now living) and representatives of the Family who have left this world?
      Are they really incapable of putting things in order among themselves ???
      Moreover, if they somehow still ... how to put it correctly ... "claim the throne", perhaps too loudly and weighty, but, nevertheless, they have claims, it might be better if they started with specific actions for the good of Russia, and not with such shows ???
  20. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 7 October 2021 08: 58
    +5
    Escort services ... And they carry the Victory Banner?
  21. know
    know 7 October 2021 09: 10
    +12
    Yes, there was still a circus. Some impostor, unrecognized even by other Romanovs, poses as a "sovereign-emperor", and some "alternatively gifted" in Russia fall into his legs. I remember the famous film "The Crown of the Russian Empire":

  22. st2st
    st2st 7 October 2021 09: 23
    +4
    Oh . how right the Bolsheviks were when the whole family of incestuous Romanov-Goldstein-Goldthorpe was multiplied by zero.
  23. Machete
    Machete 7 October 2021 09: 53
    +4
    Everything is so obvious that it is disgusting. Some general was sent a dough and he sent the soldiers to a private party.
    Like in the 90s.
    Corruption in its purest form.
    To save face, it was said that there would be disciplinary sanctions, but if no one was actually fired, then Shoigu's authority would be shaken.
    1. Pandiurin
      Pandiurin 7 October 2021 12: 56
      +4
      Quote: Machete
      Everything is so obvious that it is disgusting. Some general was sent a dough and he sent the soldiers to a private party.
      Like in the 90s.
      Corruption in its purest form.
      To save face, it was said that there would be disciplinary sanctions, but if no one was actually fired, then Shoigu's authority would be shaken.


      So most likely the one who commands this company turns out to be guilty, he kind of violated the regulations. But he was probably ordered / asked to give that people to allocate mica with large shoulder straps to whom he did not dare to refuse.

      And it turns out that if you formally approach, then you have to severely punish the switchman. Who really muddied all this is not the side-altars, not his diocese. Type asked and that's all, if it was impossible then they had to refuse. In theory, you need to seriously understand, it is very good to take a closer look at a large number of people, who is whose protégé and what they do in the army in general and why they are generally needed there.

      A reason for a big cleaning, and a reasonable one. In the literal sense, the wedding generals were designated.
  24. alexmach
    alexmach 7 October 2021 09: 58
    +4
    Who else would the priests conducting the ceremony do not understand who in the cathedral, which is state property, attracted ...

    PS: Can Shoigu reassign them too?
  25. evgen1221
    evgen1221 7 October 2021 10: 06
    +5
    Theater of the absurd-And why should our Armed Forces have something there (by Romanov-Pupkin)?
  26. Ural resident
    Ural resident 7 October 2021 10: 09
    +4
    The participation of the guard of honor in this masquerade is not at all surprising, given the active participation in the organization of the famous St. Petersburg family. Local princes, or rather their wives, who were given free rein at one time completely imagined themselves to be the Lady of the Sea - but they swung the Crown.
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 7 October 2021 10: 14
      +3
      Quote: Resident of the Urals
      Local princes, or rather their wives, who were given free rein at one time completely imagined themselves to be the Lady of the Sea - but they swung the Crown.

      Thimblers need to legalize, walk - walk like that !!! fellow
  27. Graz
    Graz 7 October 2021 10: 11
    +3
    Mikhail Shakhnazarov wrote a whole poem about this wedding in St.
    funny that fellow
  28. HMR333
    HMR333 7 October 2021 10: 25
    -6
    Well, attracted a beautiful ceremony did what is the problem? They didn’t dance naked in the moonlight!
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 October 2021 11: 54
      +3
      I am tormented by vague doubts: at whose expense the banquet ?!
      This is not a wedding in Malinovka. Pan ataman Gritsian-Tavrichesky, the horses are drunk, the lads are harnessed, There are state people, the army, panimash. Is the army private?
  29. HMR333
    HMR333 7 October 2021 10: 38
    -10
    The funny thing is that there is so much envy in the comments! Yes, if you had such opportunities, you would have done the same and there would not have been similar ones outraged!
  30. iouris
    iouris 7 October 2021 11: 10
    +4
    This is a historic moment. The feudal class structure has now been restored in the (bourgeois) "republic". Under the "republic" we were divided into "cool" and "suckers", now - into "noble" and "rabble" (b..lo).
    Not a single (even "elite") serviceman refused to participate in this provocation-demonstration, did not submit a report on command. And if I dared to refuse, then what, what would be the consequences?
    Is this a coup already? Then Peter is the city of four revolutions (or already five? - you get confused).
  31. Vlad Baryatinsky
    Vlad Baryatinsky 7 October 2021 11: 35
    +5
    Kozhegetovich, however, is disingenuous. For such a landmark event to take place without the knowledge of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, and as an argument in its defense, vague and, frankly, unaddressed "I will punish".
    Kozhegetovich, tough leader. And so that without his knowledge, to put it mildly, disingenuous.
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 October 2021 11: 50
      +3
      And ask, what does he have to do with the Order of Malta? After all, he was awarded. And that means - a knight, i.e. noble.
      1. Vlad Baryatinsky
        Vlad Baryatinsky 7 October 2021 12: 08
        +3
        Quote: iouris
        And ask, what does he have to do with the Order of Malta?

        Perhaps you will be discouraged by my answer ?! But there is NO desire to turn to Him!
        After all, he is deceiving and will not take it dearly.
        Quote: iouris
        And that means - a knight, i.e. noble.

        I suppose it was sarcasm ?!
        1. iouris
          iouris 7 October 2021 12: 45
          +3
          After the wedding of the crown prince - what sarcasm? Statement. I beat my brow below.
          And about the first one, you don't have to ask: google it and you will find everything yourself. It's not a secret.
      2. alystan
        alystan 7 October 2021 14: 31
        +1
        You know, the second side of the medal / order is freemasonry, as if they cannot exist separately.
    2. alystan
      alystan 8 October 2021 17: 18
      +1
      And even without the knowledge of the Guarantor, it could not have taken place, even with a guard, even without!
  32. CYM
    CYM 7 October 2021 13: 29
    0
    Quote: Abrosimov Sergey Olegovich
    Even kill, I can neither understand nor get from the priests (at least those with whom I discussed this topic) a clear answer: why exactly Nicholas II was elevated to the rank of saints ...
    For voluntary renunciation of power, humility and zeal for the fatherland - in the person of the USSR, and not for the alleged martyrdom. Below is a link to an alternative version of the life of the royal family and the ROC seems to adhere to this, but unofficially. winked
  33. alystan
    alystan 7 October 2021 14: 26
    +1
    They still haven't figured it out among themselves, and why then have they been lisping with these for how many years ?!
    At the same time, attention is drawn to the fact that the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs does not recognize the so-called “imperial house of the Romanovs” (IDR) as any legitimate. In this regard, the participation of regular servicemen in the wedding ceremony of George and Rebecca in St. Petersburg raised questions even among those who recognize the legitimacy of the named association.

    We held a circus performance, and the main showman "turns out" was not in the know ?!
    It turned out that it was the regular military who stood at attention and saluted.
    The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation announced that the head of the department, Sergei Shoigu, “brought disciplinary responsibility to the officials of the Western Military District,” who made the decision to send the commandant's unit to a private event.

    Now the second part of the performance with the punishment of the "guilty", only for whom is it intended? According to their scenario, this is more likely a continuation of the performance in order to release the remains of steam from disgruntled (indignant) citizens (a week later!) And continue work on the return of the monarchy to the Russian Federation. Have "they" ever given up on their plans? All the attention of the indignant is "directed" to the "unfortunate" military, and the main event is "taken out" from the field of vision and discussion! Just think, they are dissatisfied, "boil" and calm down on this, apparently the main directors of the "play" are counting. And next time they will attract a whole dragoon regiment, was it in vain that they recreated and drilled it ?!
    Although I cannot believe in this, to tell the truth, you no longer know WHAT the current rulers will throw out again ?!
  34. Hindu
    Hindu 7 October 2021 15: 11
    +6
    There was such a grotesque film "Shirley-Myrli", as if they were filming now, in the Russian Federation in 2021 ...
  35. azhdk
    azhdk 7 October 2021 15: 17
    +3
    Like this:
    1. iouris
      iouris 7 October 2021 17: 12
      +2
      This is what I understand. The beauty!
  36. Andrey1966
    Andrey1966 7 October 2021 15: 54
    +2
    Next time they will be recruited for the filming of the Caligula remake.
  37. Looking for
    Looking for 7 October 2021 16: 30
    +6
    Quote: carstorm 11
    Yes, leave you graduates alone) Youth. Everyone goes crazy on receiving epaulettes and graduation) in the Union, for example, my dad and his friends drove their caps in a taxi) one taxi to take them, the other to take their caps) border guards from our Khabarovsk academy have been renting all limousines in the city for graduation for many years) I will not write about my release)))) They distinguished themselves in full) It's just the last such nonsense. Then youth is all. Ended up. The service begins.

    How they start and "serve"
  38. Bshkaus
    Bshkaus 7 October 2021 16: 31
    +2
    I have known this "Gosha" since 1997. Well, as I know, I saw it when I went with my parents to the opening of the fountains in the Manezh Square. His mother was an official guest and the ceremony was delayed because they were waiting for someone. Then serious men in suits dragged my 13-15-year-old peer into the arms on rollers with ice cream, who could not really stand on rollers, so they dragged him wiping snot. That was the "Grand Duke" because of whom the crowd of people had been waiting for a long time. I immediately noted for myself that in our yard they were very disliked. Honestly, I did not like this family, the innocent child's gut felt fake and theatrical.
    1. bessonov932
      bessonov932 7 October 2021 19: 48
      +6
      I remember at this time they were actively stirring up the topic of the monarchy. Yeltsin was rapidly degrading, and the "family" did not rule out some form of monarchy, probing public sentiments. Then these strange people often came to visit us.
      1. alystan
        alystan 8 October 2021 17: 10
        0
        Among these strange were messengers from the Order of Malta, from the Vatican and others, who gifted and appeased the ruling elite.
        Then there were several VVP visits to Rome and meetings with the Pope Ihnim, one-on-one conversations for many hours ...
        And we cannot find out what the warm conversation was about.
        Then the meeting of the Patriarch with the Pope in Cuba and also long conversations / negotiations.
        And now the puzzle begins to slowly gather into one whole panel ...
  39. iouris
    iouris 7 October 2021 17: 11
    +4
    I ask you to adopt a federal law prohibiting foreign agents, stateless persons and citizens of the Russian Federation who have not served in the RF Armed Forces from becoming tsarevichs and tsars.
    1. alystan
      alystan 8 October 2021 17: 01
      0
      Of those who had served and with several passports, a line was already lined up and only the chief military chief somewhere in the taiga began to cry ...
  40. fa2998
    fa2998 7 October 2021 17: 42
    0
    Quote: Lech from Android.
    Someone at the top fell ill with monarchism.

    They just earn money, so to speak, "shabashka". And got off with a reprimand, because it is "OUR". angry
    1. alystan
      alystan 8 October 2021 16: 59
      -1
      And you probably also know how much you earned? )))
  41. Vladimir1155
    Vladimir1155 7 October 2021 17: 45
    -1
    As an ardent monarchist and Stalinist, I will note that it would not hurt the descendants of the Romanovs, if they were here on October 1, to organize and participate in events in memory of the treacherously murdered Tsar Paul the First on his birthday on October 3 ...
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 7 October 2021 19: 29
      +6
      Quote: vladimir1155
      as an ardent monarchist and Stalinist, I will note

      wassat Here it is Che Mikhalych ..
    2. TAMBU
      TAMBU 9 October 2021 11: 40
      0
      as an ardent monarchist and Stalinist

      this is my friend, schizophrenia ...
  42. bessonov932
    bessonov932 7 October 2021 19: 42
    +4
    We have not yet forgotten the glamorous party aboard the cruiser Aurora in 2009. This is a special kind of vandalism.
  43. helloween
    helloween 7 October 2021 20: 22
    +1
    Yes, the fathers of the commanders just decided to earn some money. In the summer, when Yakutia was on fire, aviation in Turkey was making money. And then we decided, are we worse or what?
    1. alystan
      alystan 8 October 2021 16: 57
      0
      The father is the commander alone and without his approval, not a single plane will fly anywhere, especially the military with checkers at the monarch's wedding / engagement promoted to the whole world. Do you yourself believe in it?
      1. lelik613
        lelik613 8 October 2021 18: 55
        0
        But there is a nuance, Petka ... This is not at all ...
  44. lelik613
    lelik613 8 October 2021 18: 53
    0
    Non-commissioned officer widows * (a) carved himself ...
  45. Metallurg_2
    Metallurg_2 9 October 2021 10: 05
    0
    "Tsarevich Request Gosha ": grandson of" Tsar Volodka ", great-grandson of" Tsar Kiryukha ".
    Moreover, he married a Jewess.
    Paul I turned over in his grave from such a heir to the throne.
    Or maybe they are really preparing him as a successor after 2024?
  46. pleschakovai
    pleschakovai 9 October 2021 12: 13
    -1
    It looks like there were reenactors at the wedding !!! After all, such an event in the West Military District does not decide on their own, but should have been coordinated with the curators at the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation !!! And then so much diarrhea in the comments and articles in the video "experts" in YouTube on the Minister of Defense !!! am
  47. Diviz
    Diviz 9 October 2021 12: 56
    0
    Would hire a German guard or English for this business, or at least show masks.
  48. Rinat Seidgazov
    Rinat Seidgazov 10 October 2021 09: 35
    0
    The article contains the following phrase: "... in the unification of the descendants of the Romanovs, the so-called" imperial house of the Romanovs "(IDR) is not recognized as being at all legitimate. In this regard, the participation of regular military personnel ..."
    It turns out the whole thing in the united Romanovs, who have not yet agreed? But if you agreed, then you can send a guard? And the opinion and history of the people have nothing to do with it?
    It is worth noting here that the struggle of the people against the Romanovs lasted from their very accession (the people called their power "thieves'") until 1917. In response, the Romanovs first organized a church schism in order to subjugate the church and create a clear marker of "friend or foe" for purposeful persecution of Old Believers, of whom there were the majority in the 17th century. The peasant war led by Stepan Razin and other riots gave the name of the 17th century as rebellious. The degree of opposition between the people and the Romanov authorities had extreme forms. In the rebellious territories, an extreme form of serfdom was introduced to the people and the shameful human trafficking flourished! The church, changed by the Romanovs, supported the government and introduced the thesis "all power is from God." Therefore, the people smashed the churches after 1917. The wounds inflicted on society by the Romanovs became the spring that led to the events of the early 20th century and the creation of a new country that gave the people dignity, free education, medicine, the right to work, and which the people defended at the cost of unthinkable sacrifices in the Great Patriotic War.
    And now the guard of honor ... It is a pity that the Romanovs did not come to an agreement ... And who asked the opinion of the people? There are two stories of Russia: history through the eyes of the people and Istria, as the elite wants to see it. This wedding with a guard of honor is an insult to popular history. The Romanovs must repent for their grave crimes against the people. Are the new Romanovs ready for such repentance? I do not think. They are immersed in narcissism.