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September flow chronicles: from the last link to the first gas

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September flow chronicles: from the last link to the first gas
Photo: umf-agency.ru


Monopoly games


2 September 2021 of Rosneft may become an independent supplier of gas through the Nord Stream-2 pipes. Russian Deputy Prime Minister Alexander Novak and Russian Energy Minister Nikolai Shulginov made statements about this during the Eastern Economic Forum.
Since 2013, Rosneft has been seeking the opportunity to export its gas through the GTS of the Russian Federation, but Gazprom remains the monopoly. The company is actively developing gas projects such as Rospan and Kharampur in the Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug.

In such conditions, only export can be the optimal way of monetization. At the same time, Gazprom does not welcome the prospect of third-party companies' access to the infrastructure in which huge investments have been made.

Rosneft's aspiration to export gas, both by pipeline and in the form of liquefied natural gas (LNG), is met with stiff opposition. One of the indicative conflicts was the struggle for the right to access the facilities of the Trans-Sakhalin gas pipeline by Sakhalin Energy.

This is not only the operator of the Sakhalin-2 project, but also a subsidiary of Gazprom. Rosneft has its own gas reserves in Sakhalin already within the framework of the Sakhalin-1 project, but is forced to pump the extracted blue fuel back into the reservoir, since it does not see any prospects for its monetization.

September 2021 of Gazprom is blocking all attempts by Rosneft to gain access to the Sakhalin-2 gas pipelines or to organize its own LNG production. In response, Rosneft did not allow Gazprom to access gas reserves from the Sakhalin-1 project.

As a result, Gazprom did not receive replenishment of the resource base for the expansion of the LNG plant under the Sakhalin-2 project. At the same time, the gas monopoly took part in auctions for subsoil plots that could form the resource base of Rosneft's LNG projects.

Thus, Gazprom won an auction for the Layavozhskoye and Vaneivisskoye fields in the Nenets Autonomous Okrug (NAO), which Rosneft hoped to receive for the implementation of the Pechora LNG project.

There is a contact!


6 September. During his farewell visit to St. Petersburg, Rainer Seele (pictured), at that time the head of OMV, one of Gazprom's key partners in the Nord Stream 2 project, said that the construction of the gas pipeline would be completed in the coming days. and gas supplies through it will begin by the end of 2021.


Photo: faz.net

6 September. Specialists of the Fortuna pipe-laying barge (TUB) have welded the last pipe of the first string of Nord Stream 2. According to the project operator Nord Stream-2 AG, pipe number 200858 will be submerged to the bottom of the Baltic Sea in German waters.

According to R. Zelle, in order to put the gas pipeline into operation by the end of 2021, “commissioning works on the first string will be carried out.

Nord Stream 2 will help meet the long-term needs of the EU energy market for natural gas imports, ensuring reliable and safe supplies on reasonable economic terms. "

10 September. TUB "Fortuna" performed the docking of the section of the first string of the gas pipeline running from the coast of Germany with the section stretching from the waters of Denmark using the over-water method.

At the same time, both parts of the abutting gas pipeline were lifted onto a barge, where the sections were welded, after which the whip of the gas pipeline was lowered to the bottom of the Baltic.

Cubic meters of alarm


13 September. The Federal Network Agency of Germany (BNA) has started considering an application for certification of Nord Stream 2 AG as an independent operator of the gas transmission system in accordance with the requirements of the German Energy Industry Act.

14 September. According to the London ICE stock exchange, the price of natural gas on the European market has set another record, exceeding $ 800 per 1 cubic meters. Such in stories was not yet.

15 September. Deputy Prime Minister of the Russian Federation A. Novak reported that the Ministry of Energy of the Russian Federation has prepared and should submit a report on the decision, at the request of Rosneft, to export gas through Nord Stream-2. However, no concrete decisions have yet been made on the export of pipeline gas from Rosneft.

18 September. European Commission Secretary Vivian Lunela said at a briefing in Brussels that the procedure for the approval of the Nord Stream 2 certification by the European Commission could take more than two months.


The German regulator (Federal Network Agency of the Federal Republic of Germany) must, upon request for certification, within these two months submit to the European Commission its draft decision on certification and request an opinion. After receiving the conclusion, the commission can consider it for two months, and this period can be extended for another two months.

They don't argue about prices


22 September. The RF Ministry of Finance does not plan to increase the tax burden on Gazprom due to the rise in spot gas prices. This was announced by the Minister of Finance of the Russian Federation Anton Siluanov.

According to him, the prices of long-term contracts for the supply of raw materials are growing much more slowly. At the same time, tax initiatives do not provide for an increase in the MET rate, because there is a spot price, and there is a contract price.

As you know, Gazprom sells gas under long-term contracts with a fixed contract price, which is significantly lower than the spot price. And spot prices around the world are currently at record levels for a variety of reasons.

Experts attribute the record growth in gas rates to the suspension of investments in 2020 due to the coronavirus lockdown and the post-crisis recovery of the global economy, which caused a sharp increase in demand for energy resources.

In addition, during the last long cold winter, an unprecedented consumption of gas from the storage facilities was noted, and their owners were reluctant to replenish them due to high gas prices.

However, expectations of a decline in quotations did not come true, as the authors have already written about (We continue the oil and gas countdown), noting also the strategic mistake of the EU with the choice of a global course towards decarbonization of the economy. The first thing this course has already led to is the unprecedented growth in gas consumption as a more environmentally friendly fuel.

Last opponent


23 September. The German Federal Grid Agency has granted the Polish company PGNiG and its German subsidiary PGNiG Supply & Trading GmbH the right to participate in the certification procedures for the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline.


Photo: PGNIG

The business press almost unanimously considers this to be a real threat of stalling and even refusal to launch the SP-2. The fact is that, to the complete disappointment of Nord Stream 2 AG and Gazprom, the Polish side believes that Nord Stream 2, first of all, does not meet the formal requirements for certification under the preferential model of an independent transmission operator.

According to Polish experts,

"A positive decision by the Federal Grid Agency will jeopardize the security of supply to the EU and Member States, and putting the pipeline into operation pending a final certification decision would be a violation of German and EU law."

One cannot but agree with the opponents' argument that the operation of SP-2 without a certificate will lead to discrimination against other energy companies and distortion of competition in the domestic gas market.

However, who in their right mind would believe that Gazprom is ready to launch a stream without a certificate?

Be that as it may, the temporary resolution may be facilitated by the escalation of the current crisis, since only gas from SP-2 can bring down the excitement in the market.

However, from the mouth of the head of PGNiG Pavel Mayevsky, we hear that the company will do everything so that Nord Stream 2 cannot avoid the application of a number of requirements.

First of all, the division of ownership, which makes the problem of admission to the flow of the same "Rosneft" even more urgent.

Secondly, third-party access, which is unlikely to be a problem for Gazprom, since at the construction stage it had at least five large partners from among Western companies.

The Polish manager is also ready to demand transparent tariffs from Gazprom, which take into account the cost of the entire gas pipeline. This condition is at least strange, since all Gazprom's long-term contracts are such, that is, public and transparent by definition.

Nevertheless, Pavel Mayevsky is not appeased:
"We will prove that Nord Stream 2 AG does not meet the formal and essential requirements for the pipeline operator, in particular those related to security of supply and the corporate structure of the company."

4 October. They began to fill Nord Stream 2 with gas. The Danish Energy Agency announced that the technological procedure for filling the first string of the Nord Stream 2 gas pipeline with gas has begun.

"The string will be gradually filled with gas to achieve the volume and pressure required for further technical testing."

It is also reported that the Nord Stream 2 operator has fulfilled all the conditions for putting the gas pipeline into operation.
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  1. Grandfather
    Grandfather 11 October 2021 11: 01
    +1
    to the people what does it matter? "Sheriff" worried about the problems of "Indians"?
    1. Stepan S
      Stepan S 11 October 2021 11: 13
      +7
      Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation. So the people cannot but worry about it.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 October 2021 11: 36
        -2
        Quote: Stepan S
        Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation. So the people cannot but worry about it.

        These, supposedly, "national treasures" have serious tax breaks / benefits and that they pay there is a great secret.
        1. Stepan S
          Stepan S 11 October 2021 12: 08
          +1
          and what they pay there is a great secret.

          In this you are wrong. They do not have any special indulgences. And the fact that they are paying is no secret. Companies are public and reporting is open.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 14
            +2
            Quote: Stepan S
            In this you are wrong. They do not have any special indulgences. And the fact that they are paying is no secret. The company is public and the reporting is open.

            You can convince yourself as long as you like, the worse for you.
            Until 2035, Gazprom has been exempted from property tax from the Power of Siberia gas pipeline facilities based on the Chayandinskoye field in Yakutia - in the first 15 years of production, the company will not pay MET from it. In turn, Rosneft received a severance tax exemption for the Samotlor field, which is why in the next ten years, according to the Ministry of Finance, the budget will lose 35 billion rubles annually. Fiscal breaks were also set for the Novatek Yamal LNG project, in the first 12 years of implementation of which zero rates of property tax and MET for gas from the Yuzhno-Tambeyskoye field, as well as a reduced profit tax rate of 13,5% instead of eighteen%. This also includes zero duties on the export of liquefied gas, which are used by all industry participants.

            In addition to tax breaks, large companies receive direct government subsidies. For example, in 2014-2015, the government agreed to provide $ 1,75 billion from the National Wealth Fund (NWF) to Sibur and 150 billion rubles to Novatek for the Zapsibneftekhim and Yamal LNG projects, respectively. The construction of Zapsibneftekhim is, among other things, carried out at the expense of Vnesheconombank (VEB), in whose accounts by the end of last year 575,3 billion rubles were deposited from the NWF. The fund's funds were also used to purchase preferred shares of VTB, Rosselkhozbank and Gazprombank for a total of 279 billion rubles.
            1. Stepan S
              Stepan S 11 October 2021 12: 20
              +4
              And why did you mix everything in a heap here? Yes, there are tax incentives for some projects, I mean the same Gazprom, but in general Rosneft is in first place in terms of tax payments, and Gazprom is in second place. Rosneft pays all taxes per year over 3,6 trillion. rubles, and Gazprom about 3 trillion. rubles.
              According to the benefits of the same Novatek or Sibur, there is associated with the launch of very large and expensive industries, without tax benefits, which would not take place. Novatek has built gas liquefaction plants in Yamal, Sibur is building chemical plants. I am also not a fan of the distribution of tax breaks, but without them these projects would not have taken place.
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 29
                -6
                Quote: Stepan S
                And why did you mix everything in a heap here? yes, there are tax incentives for some projects,

                Quote: Stepan S
                According to the benefits of the same Novatek or Sibur, there is associated with the launch of very large and expensive industries, without tax benefits, which would not take place. Novatek has built gas liquefaction plants in Yamal, Sibur is building chemical plants. I am also not a fan of the distribution of tax breaks, but without them these projects would not have taken place.

                Long-standing empty talk and everything has been chewed and chewed for a long time.
                А if you carefully study what you have written, laughing then perhaps you will understand that
                nobody fucking needs these projects, except for the beneficiaries of the "projects",
                if
                Quote: Stroporez
                This also includes nliquefied gas export duties, which are used by all industry participants.
              2. dorz
                dorz 11 October 2021 12: 36
                -3
                In fact, the situation with "people's companies" and the sale of hydrocarbons is much worse:

                The oil and gas gold stream in fall 2021 will be the last hydrocarbon price boom in human history. According to foreign analysts, after a multiple exceeding of absolute price records for the entire observation period, an inevitable correction will occur, characterizing a stable fall, proportional to the fall in demand.

                The next three years will be decisive for Russia in this regard: it was at this time that analysts assessed the emergency refusal of the EU heating infrastructure from oil and gas. falling up to 5% every year... No matter how much we want to admit it, the oil and gas boom of 2021 has outlined a clear framework for the Russian Federation for getting off the hydrocarbon needle, ”the expert notes.

                Source: https://t.me/russica2/41598
                1. Stepan S
                  Stepan S 11 October 2021 14: 40
                  +6
                  The next three years will be decisive for Russia in this regard: it was at this time that analysts assessed the emergency refusal of the EU heating infrastructure from oil and gas.

                  And what is Europe going to "drown" in three years? what to ride, where to produce polymers and fertilizers? Is it really going to be heated with windmills, or with panels? Or do you know other sources of energy? Coal? So they also gave up coal, and coal must be transported from Russia at $ 200 per ton. All this crying for green energy showed its worthlessness last winter and this one will show. And the reality is that soon there will be enough energy in the world only for those who have their own fossil sources.
                2. Nastia makarova
                  Nastia makarova 12 October 2021 12: 14
                  +1
                  and what will they drown? and production?
        2. bk316
          bk316 11 October 2021 12: 25
          +2
          what they pay there is a great secret.

          In the sense of a secret?
          All pjsc balances are open.
          Tax payments are naturally reflected there.
          Have you been disconnected from Google again?
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 11 October 2021 12: 31
            -4
            Quote: bk316
            what they pay there is a great secret.

            In the sense of a secret?
            All pjsc balances are open.
            Tax payments are naturally reflected there.
            Have you been disconnected from Google again?

            Holy simplicity... wassat
          2. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 36
            -1
            Quote: bk316
            Have you been disconnected from Google again?

            I don't need anything from the enemy mattress! yes laughing
            1. bk316
              bk316 11 October 2021 13: 09
              +1
              I don't need anything from the enemy mattress!

              And what are you writing here?
              and VO and the Internet itself is all from THEM foes laughing
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 11 October 2021 13: 12
                +1
                Quote: bk316
                And what are you writing here?
                and VO and the Internet itself is all from THEM foes

                Well your division! I didn't know belay wassat
                1. bk316
                  bk316 11 October 2021 13: 41
                  +3
                  Well your division! I didn't know

                  Many knowledge many sorrows laughing
                  My washing machine burned out here miele.
                  I bought it at a premium for German quality.
                  I decided to make out, so as not to squirm when to endure.
                  And there, not a single German device is infected - all China. The complete drum is sealed with hieroglyphs printed on it. laughing
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 11 October 2021 13: 50
                    0
                    Quote: bk316
                    My washing machine burned out here miele.
                    I bought it at a premium for German quality.
                    I decided to make out, so as not to squirm when to endure.
                    And there, not a single German device is infected - all China. The complete drum is sealed with hieroglyphs printed on it.

                    Ha, in the order of things! Only those machines / devices that were assembled before 2012, everything else is Chinese, continue to work. My friend bought a Samsung refrigerator for fifty sput. yes
                    1. bk316
                      bk316 11 October 2021 14: 44
                      0
                      Ha, in the order of things! NS

                      This I mean that many knowledge, many sorrows. laughing I wouldn’t raskurochit and didn’t know ...
                  2. Hypertension
                    Hypertension 11 October 2021 14: 26
                    +1
                    Quote: bk316
                    And there, not a single German device is infected - all China.

                    "American blocks, Russian blocks - everything is made in Taiwan"(Lev Andropov)
                  3. Ingvar 72
                    Ingvar 72 11 October 2021 16: 04
                    -1
                    Quote: bk316
                    And there, not a single German device is infected - all China.

                    What are the conclusions? Is China to blame, or is it manufacturer's defects? In general, Millet's technique is serious, more than half of the population of Russia does not even know about its existence.
                    The question to you, as to a zaputin, is why the giblets of serious German equipment are Chinese, and not Russian? We are ahead of the rest of the world in terms of development and technology. wink And salaries in China will be bigger than ours for a long time. Huh? wink
                    According to the article, meanwhile, over the past 2 months, prices for basic foodstuffs have grown by an average of 20-40%, and the question arises - how does Gazprom's gesheft side with the people? The development of the non-resource part of the industry has not been, and is not.
                    1. I am not a robot
                      I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 13
                      -5
                      why do serious German technology have Chinese giblets, not German ones?
                      bread as it cost 27 so it costs, meat beef as it cost 330 so it costs
                      1. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 11 October 2021 16: 39
                        +4
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        bread as it cost 27 so it costs, meat beef as it cost 330 so it costs

                        Lie. Beef flesh 550-600, 350 ribs for the first, a year ago they were 250. For bread - I don't know where you saw 27 each, and if you can call it bread. Wheat this year has risen in price by 25-30%.
                        My wife took a chicken drumstick in August for 180, today it is already 220 rubles / kg. Cereals, vegetables - almost all have grown by over 30%.
                        And the official inflation rate is 6,7%. wink
                        P.S. The wife keeps saving up all the checks, you can't take it for good!
                      2. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 42
                        -6
                        bread is like bread in our village, Engelsky District. pork -280, beef -330 that year also 330
                      3. Ingvar 72
                        Ingvar 72 11 October 2021 16: 48
                        +3
                        Quote: Janerobot
                        pork -280

                        Pork has risen really a little, 10-15%, everything else is more.
                        Tell me, if you are really not a robot - how can the price of meat and bread not rise if wheat and feed added 30% in price? wink Some kind of logical layering you have. request What do you feed your cattle?
                        P.S. Potatoes, carrots, onions + 70 -100%.
                      4. I am not a robot
                        I am not a robot 11 October 2021 17: 23
                        -4
                        so because of low meat prices, it is not profitable to keep cut.
                        a bale of straw was worth 70 that year and 70 this year
                        carrots, onions, yes, they have risen in price
                        you wrote that in the last 2 months the price has risen, I answered like we have
                        bread at the beginning of winter rose from 23 to 27
                  4. Bolt cutter
                    Bolt cutter 11 October 2021 18: 04
                    +2
                    The wife took a chicken drumstick in August for 180, today it is already 220 rubles / kg
                    Just like the price in England, by the way.
                  5. Svarog
                    Svarog 11 October 2021 18: 26
                    +2
                    Quote: Bolt Cutter
                    The wife took a chicken drumstick in August for 180, today it is already 220 rubles / kg
                    Just like the price in England, by the way.

                    Only salary like in Africa ..
                2. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 11 October 2021 18: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  P.S. The wife keeps saving up all the checks, you can't take it for good!

                  Comrade, bow to your wife from me! hi good
                3. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 11 October 2021 19: 50
                  +6
                  The only thing I know is that in 2014 I earned 2000 € a month, and now I barely scrape together for 1000 $.
                  Moreover, then I did not really strain, but now, I work like dad Carlo.
                4. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 11 October 2021 19: 58
                  +4
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  The only thing I know is that in 2014 I earned 2000 € a month, and now I barely scrape together for 1000 $.

                  Get out! wassat
                  Comrade, love for the president of a certain part of the population is not at all free, as they naively think, but unfortunately, everyone has to pay for their selfless lubof.

                  PySy. the same garbage in 2005-2014, 2-2,5 fittings of hated greenery, and now ... sometimes 800 joy in the family. sad
                5. 3x3zsave
                  3x3zsave 11 October 2021 20: 12
                  +7
                  sometimes even 800 joy in the family.
                  We are rapidly destitute! And the point is not that we have begun to work worse, the point is that the counterparty cannot pay.
                6. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 11 October 2021 20: 39
                  +3
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  We are rapidly destitute! And the point is not that we have begun to work worse, the point is that the counterparty cannot pay.

                  The counterparty also has nowhere to take money, and this is how the circle closes.
            2. Liam
              Liam 11 October 2021 20: 01
              0
              Now they will explain to you that you are paying a lot more in rubles now
            3. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 October 2021 20: 08
              +5
              They won't explain. Eleven years ago I could take a taxi from Barcelona to St. Petersburg, without fatal damage to my personal budget, now ...
            4. Liam
              Liam 11 October 2021 20: 41
              +1
              By the way, how much did a taxi from Barcelona to St. Petersburg cost then?
            5. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 October 2021 20: 44
              +2
              I don't remember, but I think, like now, 1 € \ km.
            6. Liam
              Liam 11 October 2021 22: 07
              0
              2.800 km It is not very profitable for a taxi driver. He also goes back and forth.
            7. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 October 2021 22: 45
              0
              I think if the car is in car sharing, then everything is fine.
            8. Liam
              Liam 11 October 2021 22: 54
              0
              During my youth, at least once a year I went to my parents by car. 2000 with a tail one way. Usually without stopping for sleep and rest. Only gas stations and customs. Usually it took 28-32 hours to get there. On average, about 400 euros for fuel. and spent autobahns. Naturally arrived in a state zombie and slept for a day.
              According to estimates, a taxi driver will waste almost a week on such a voyage. And he will spend at least 1000 euros. This week he will probably earn many times more in the city without incident.
            9. 3x3zsave
              3x3zsave 11 October 2021 23: 24
              +1
              I can’t rate anything. Simply, for the sake of pointless interest, I asked a taxi driver in Barcelona how much it cost to get to St. Petersburg.
  • 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 11 October 2021 23: 35
    +1
    Correction, L.V. Michelson, the owner of Novotek ... what a "talking" surname.
    Gazprom is a rich organization, but it is a means for making money for a narrow circle of people.
  • WIKI
    WIKI 11 October 2021 14: 00
    +2
    Quote: bk316
    All pjsc balances are open.
    Tax payments are naturally reflected there

    Rosneftegaz is a money-box for receiving dividends from oil and gas companies with a staff of 20 people and a budget of hundreds of billions of rubles. The distribution of funds from the multibillion-dollar oil box of Rosneftegaz has been a great mystery for many years. The inability of the government to get all the profits of Rosneftegaz transferred to the budget provoked doubts about the transparency of spending. And you say reports.
    1. bk316
      bk316 11 October 2021 14: 43
      0
      Rosneftegaz is a money-box for receiving dividends from oil and gas companies

      It may very well be. And what does Rosneftegaz have to do with it? He is never mentioned in the article. laughing
      Or do you think that Rosneft also employs 20 people?
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 11 October 2021 15: 00
        0
        https://www.interfax.ru/business/710905
        1. bk316
          bk316 11 October 2021 16: 26
          -4
          I know that Rosneftegaz is a shareholder of Rosneft.
          Do you know what kind of transactions there are under the law between shareholders and organizations.
          This I mean that I have shares in Gazprom, I am its shareholder. In your opinion, this means that due to this, the accounting department of Gazprom has become opaque?
          1. WIKI
            WIKI 11 October 2021 17: 59
            0
            Quote: bk316
            This I mean that I have shares in Gazprom, I am its shareholder. In your opinion, this means that due to this, the accounting department of Gazprom has become opaque?

            It became not transparent because of the dividends on 11% of Gazprom shares, which are owned by Rosneftegaz.
            1. bk316
              bk316 12 October 2021 13: 18
              0
              It became not transparent because of the dividends on 11% of Gazprom shares, which are owned by Rosneftegaz.

              This is about 20 billion rubles, and the volume of tax payments is about 2 trillion.
              That is, 2 orders of magnitude more. In life, we neglect the quantities 2 orders of magnitude smaller.
              For example, the temperature outside is 20 degrees, and 2 orders of magnitude less than two tenths of a degree. Or the price of gasoline is 50 rubles, and the value is 2 orders of magnitude less than 5 kopecks. Or a pit on the road 10 cm, and 2 orders of magnitude less than 1 millimeter, that is, not a pit at all ...
              Why are you breathing unevenly towards Gazprom?
              1. WIKI
                WIKI 12 October 2021 15: 02
                0
                As I understand it, 20 billion rubles is not money for you. Although everything is possible in our country. And the opportunity to build 555 km of the road with this money is a trifle for you.
              2. bk316
                bk316 13 October 2021 11: 20
                0
                555 km of road

                555? Do you want 20 km?
                Is it a trifle or not? This is 142 rubles per inhabitant of the country, this is a trifle. And taxes paid FOURTEEN THOUSAND RUBLES for each inhabitant and for you and me and for each granny for 14000.
              3. WIKI
                WIKI 16 October 2021 21: 19
                0
                Quote: bk316
                Do you want 20 km?

                To be exact, the cost of building 1 km for 2019 is 100 million rubles:
                https://mintrans.gov.ru/documents/11/11086
                11% of dividends in 2019 is RUB 36,3 billion https://www.gazprom.ru/investors/dividends/dividends-history/
                The bottom line is 363 km of the road.
  • Grandfather
    Grandfather 11 October 2021 12: 23
    0
    Quote: Stepan S
    Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation. So the people cannot but worry about it.

    ha ha ha ... I don’t watch the first channel ...
    1. bk316
      bk316 11 October 2021 13: 10
      -3
      ha ha ha ... I don’t watch the first channel ...

      And rightly so, do not be distracted from writing dirty tricks, scribble! laughing
    2. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 17
      -1
      you yourself say that all budget revenues come from oil and gas (we do not produce anything), and at the same time you deny that the main taxpayers are traders in oil and gas, where the logic
  • Fitter65
    Fitter65 11 October 2021 16: 03
    +2
    Quote: Stepan S
    Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation. So the people can't help but care

    So it worries the people, on Rosneft the 92nd is still 47,40, but I have 25 km to the nearest dispenser from Rosneft, 850 meters away there is a FLAGMAN gas station, which a year ago 92 was always 1,5-2 rubles cheaper than at Rosneft, after January-February 21st, it became 6,50 more expensive than 53,90. And now Rosneft and Gazprom again do not share something - how much will gasoline cost in Komsomolsk? If you have your own (?) Refinery.
  • Aviator_
    Aviator_ 11 October 2021 18: 46
    0
    This is the same Rosneft that drowned the floating dock because of the savings on the emergency generator! An effective owner, you won’t say anything.
  • for
    for 11 October 2021 22: 25
    -1
    Quote: Stepan S
    Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation.

    The main taxpayer in Russia is Moscow.
    1. sakuz
      sakuz 11 October 2021 23: 20
      +21
      Quote: for
      The main taxpayer in Russia Moscow

      And she is the main beneficiary
  • credo
    credo 11 October 2021 11: 32
    +3
    Quote: Dead Day
    to the people what does it matter? "Sheriff" worried about the problems of "Indians"?

    The Gorbachev-Yeltsin burp of still debt will ruin our lives, our children and grandchildren, with a corrupt position on all fronts.
    We donated wealth, including gas pipelines, to parasites and rogues, and now we are scrambling and bear endless costs with 140 million beggars in a 40 million country.
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 11 October 2021 11: 46
      +1
      The Gorbachev-Yeltsin burp of another debt will ruin our lives, our children and grandchildren.

      Are you talking about the guarantor? boldly .. did not expect from you wassat
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 11 October 2021 12: 26
        0
        Quote: Svarog
        The Gorbachev-Yeltsin burp of another debt will ruin our lives, our children and grandchildren.

        Are you talking about the guarantor? boldly .. did not expect from you wassat

        How many "kremlebots" there are then divorced ... the entire site was seized ... and banyat ... banyat ... and how much does it cost to write eulogies to Putin's authorities? and then they again increase the "services" of zhykakh, ... maybe get a job, for a part-time job? at night to print one, in the afternoon or two ... you can have several accounts like "mikhan" (he goes to a hundred) ... and what?
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 42
          -2
          Quote: Dead Day
          How many "kremlebots" here have got divorced ... the whole site has been seized ... and banyat ... banyat ... and how much does it cost to write eulogies to Putin's authorities?

          Comrade, I think all the same "pieces of silver" that in time immemorial.
          Just do not forget that there are also true adherents of Putin's "uprising", which anyone can use to wash-TV. to fill the baidu's ears with high quality.
        2. I am not a robot
          I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 22
          -3
          if you read the comments, then there are more oppobots here than kremlebots, and these oppobots have taken over the site, well, people will always have a different point of view, not just yours
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  • bandabas
    bandabas 11 October 2021 23: 22
    0
    [media = http: //www.kp.ru/daily/28341/4487935/] The servants should not worry. The Pathfinder guarantees.
  • Flooding
    Flooding 11 October 2021 11: 08
    +8
    Rosneft has its own gas reserves

    when I read something like that, everything turns upside down.
    what the hell are "own"?
    1. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 02
      +1
      Quote: Flood
      when I read something like that, everything turns upside down.
      what the hell are "own"?

      What surprises you so much? Many people want to believe in the "national property", the "good tsar", "bad boyars", and of other hidden hlabuda.
      They tell you clearly, do not stipulate, but say that this is Gasprem's, this is Deripaskino, this is Lisin's, this is Mikhelson's, this is Alikhper's and “the state did not force you to give birth.” The whole country has been privatized. What questions do you have?
      1. Flooding
        Flooding 11 October 2021 12: 17
        -1
        Quote: Stroporez
        What surprises you so much?

        I wrote that I was surprised?
        does not surprise, but outrages.
        Quote: Stroporez
        What questions do you have?

        what questions can there be for you if you cannot correctly interpret a few of my words.
        1. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 21
          0
          Quote: Flood
          I wrote that I was surprised?
          does not surprise, but outrages.

          Or was it just today by noon that everything began to turn over inside you? smile
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 11 October 2021 12: 39
            -1
            Quote: Stroporez
            Or just by noon today, "everything inside of you began to turn over"?

            Wel lol
            Every time when injustice reminds of itself, I start to seethe.
  • Stepan S
    Stepan S 11 October 2021 11: 12
    +3
    Gazprom is blocking all attempts by Rosneft to gain access to the Sakhalin-2 gas pipelines or to organize its own LNG production. In response, Rosneft did not allow Gazprom to access gas reserves from the Sakhalin-1 project.

    The funny thing about this paragraph is that both Rosneft and Gazprom are actually state companies. It remains only to shrug your shoulders in bewilderment, what kind of games under the rugs of Sechin and Miller?
    1. Doctor
      Doctor 11 October 2021 11: 23
      -1
      The funny thing about this paragraph is that both Rosneft and Gazprom are actually state companies. It remains only to shrug your shoulders in bewilderment, what kind of games under the rugs of Sechin and Miller?

      According to EU anti-monopoly legislation, one company cannot both produce and transport gas. This is one of the stumbling blocks of the SP-2.

      To get around this, Rosneft will now transport the gas.
      1. WIKI
        WIKI 11 October 2021 11: 25
        0
        Quote: Arzt
        According to EU anti-monopoly legislation, one company cannot both produce and transport gas. This is one of the stumbling blocks of the SP-2.

        The problem with SP-2 is not the admission of third-party suppliers, and not a Polish company, but a monopoly on the pipe. : "MOSCOW, October 10 - RIA Novosti. To comply with the EU gas directive, the pipeline's European partners may become the owners of Nord Stream 2."
        1. Brturin
          Brturin 11 October 2021 11: 57
          0
          Quote: WIKI
          and not a Polish company

          The modest opinion of the Polish analyst (Daniel Chizhevsky) is a "weighty" argument, and this is not the first time - as recently as August - Gazprom may sell the Nord Stream 2 pipeline to another certified operator in order to bypass the EU gas directive. RIA - https://ria.ru/20210827/potok-1747549118.html. Someone really wants ...
      2. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 October 2021 11: 33
        -3
        Quote: Arzt
        To get around this, Rosneft will now transport the gas.

        And transgaz, with a friend of a friend from Tokarev Dresden, is not good enough?
        1. Doctor
          Doctor 11 October 2021 12: 41
          0
          And transgaz, with a friend of a friend from Tokarev Dresden, is not good enough?

          What kind of transgaz? This?

          https://moskva-tr.gazprom.ru/

          It won't do. It is part of PJSC Gazprom.

          According to the norms of the Third Energy Package, a company independent of Gazprom should become the operator of the gas pipeline, have a transparent tariff setting, and 50% of the gas pipeline's capacity should be reserved for other companies.
          1. Sling cutter
            Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 51
            -1
            Quote: Arzt
            It won't do. It is part of PJSC Gazprom.

            Nooo, ochepyatka, I'm talking about this Nikolai Petrovich Tokarev. Chairman of the Management Board, President of PJSC Transneft.
            Directly from the wiki copypasted "In 1978, Tokarev was assigned to a two-year study at the eighth faculty of the KGB Higher School, located in Bolshoy Kiselny Lane in Moscow. The future chairman of the State Duma, Sergei Naryshkin, was then studying at the same faculty. Tokarev became the foreman of the course [1].
            He served in the First Main Directorate of the KGB of the USSR, in charge of foreign intelligence, in the early 1980s he was assigned to the Dresden KGB residency. There Major Tokarev shared [4] one office with Captain Chemezov, where he met and patronized Vladimir Putin, who came to the GDR in 1985. "
            Dresden is the forge of the top management personnel of the Russian Federation!
            1. Doctor
              Doctor 11 October 2021 13: 09
              +1
              Nooo, ochepyatka, I'm talking about this Nikolai Petrovich Tokarev. Chairman of the Management Board, President of PJSC Transneft.

              Can.
              De jure, this is not a monopoly, since other economic entities also operate in this market, but this can be a form of abuse of a dominant position (this is when the market share is more than 50%)
              However, the gas transportation market is an exception to the general rule, and a 20% share of an economic entity is sufficient for it to establish a dominant position.

              Another issue is that board members are still affiliated through other companies and individuals. wink
              1. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 11 October 2021 13: 43
                -2
                Quote: Arzt
                Another issue is that board members are still affiliated through other companies and individuals.

                Oh, these "individuals." laughing
    2. BAI
      BAI 11 October 2021 12: 26
      0
      But NOVATEK needs to get involved in this dump. Then all the requirements of Europe will be met. Guaranteed.
    3. sakuz
      sakuz 11 October 2021 23: 26
      +21
      Quote: Stepan S
      The funny thing about this paragraph is that both Rosneft and Gazprom are actually state companies. All that remains is to shrug your shoulders in disbelief, what kind of games

      The first thing that comes to mind is why the forces are scattered to fight each other? And then I thought - maybe the foe is being distracted, vigilant is being put to sleep?
  • 75 Sergey
    75 Sergey 11 October 2021 11: 35
    +1
    Gas is supplied through the pipe by Russian companies at $ 300 per m3, the rest of the gaskets are being sold !!!
    He said that the Russian people won't get anything from gas prices THERE, only the volume !!!
    And you, naive, were happy for others.
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 11 October 2021 12: 00
      0
      There will be a report from Gazprom for the 3rd quarter, we will see there. If the average price is indicated above $ 340. That means the spot share in Gazprom is decent. Do not forget about Gazprom's subsidiaries in Europe. Borel said that Europe plans to buy gas from Gazprom, t, to contract gas not enough. The key word is "to buy", and not, as before, "to increase supplies" according to the contract. We are waiting for ambassadors with gifts.
      1. 75 Sergey
        75 Sergey 11 October 2021 16: 19
        +2
        What does Gazprom and Novotek have to do with it?
        Long-term contracts for 270 Baku Europs, and 171 for China ... https: //www.bfm.ru/news/482430
      2. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 11 October 2021 16: 32
        0
        For some reason, Gazprom has published figures until September 1, gas is $ 284, and revenue for 8 months is $ 26 billion. Why would Gazprom's daughters in Europe not be fooled. Vinsgaz alone holds 20% of German gas.
        1. 75 Sergey
          75 Sergey 11 October 2021 21: 55
          +1
          Past the treasury of Russia, they "cheat" if Shell, Total, etc.
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    2. Sling cutter
      Sling cutter 11 October 2021 12: 06
      -2
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Gas is supplied through the pipe by Russian companies at $ 300 per m3, the rest of the gaskets are being sold !!!
      He said that the Russian people won't get anything from gas prices THERE, only the volume !!!
      And you, naive, were happy for others.

      They are not naive, but quite militant zombies, now they will begin to prove the opposite with foam at the mouth, spread pictures and shout that "well, now we will live."
    3. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 25
      +1
      but the more the volume, the more taxes,
      1. 75 Sergey
        75 Sergey 11 October 2021 23: 29
        +1
        there are no additional volumes, i.e. all this excitement does not concern Russia.
        Additional volumes have not been agreed.
        1. I am not a robot
          I am not a robot 12 October 2021 08: 14
          0
          above you wrote "I said that Russian people won't get anything from gas prices THERE, only volume !!!"
          now you write that there are no additional volumes
          which means additional volumes are not agreed
          1. 75 Sergey
            75 Sergey 12 October 2021 11: 16
            0
            But you can't just take it and blow more into the pipe.
            Mikhelson will try again and he doesn't care about problems, the main thing is profit and the current situation suits him, because on the stock exchanges he is the face of Russia, not Russia itself, or even Gazprom.
  • Tagan
    Tagan 11 October 2021 11: 52
    +3
    However, from the mouth of the head of PGNiG Pavel Mayevsky, we hear that the company will do everything so that Nord Stream 2 cannot avoid the application of a number of requirements.
    Well, actually, there is no question of any veto right by this bunch of people. All her vomiting will be advisory in nature.
  • Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 11 October 2021 12: 10
    +4
    What a good article, life will become even better, life will become even more fun, at times. This is how many jobs will be created for the taxes received! smile
    1. Svarog
      Svarog 11 October 2021 12: 29
      +1
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      how many jobs will be created!

      For guest workers ... maybe ..
      1. I am not a robot
        I am not a robot 11 October 2021 16: 27
        -2
        and who does not let you work instead of guest workers
    2. 75 Sergey
      75 Sergey 11 October 2021 16: 20
      +3
      We are superfluous at this celebration of life.
  • BAI
    BAI 11 October 2021 12: 23
    +3
    said that the construction of the gas pipeline will be completed in the coming days, and gas supplies through it will begin by the end of 2021.

    I would hesitate to name the dates so as not to get into a puddle, as with the launch of SP-2 in 2019. Already passed.
  • 123456789
    123456789 11 October 2021 17: 31
    +1

    10 September. TUB "Fortuna" performed the docking of the section of the first string of the gas pipeline running from the coast of Germany with the section stretching from the waters of Denmark using the over-water method.

    At the same time, both parts of the abutting gas pipeline were lifted onto a barge, where the sections were welded, after which the whip of the gas pipeline was lowered to the bottom of the Baltic.
  • Amadeus Ivanov
    Amadeus Ivanov 11 October 2021 19: 27
    0
    Rosneft will now start competing in gas trade with Gazprom? Truly, the gentlemen are fighting, but the forelocks of the slaves are cracking! I understand that if competition is on the territory of Russia ... Citizens of the Russian Federation will only benefit from this ... But who will win and who will lose from this competition outside the cordon?
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 11 October 2021 20: 40
    0
    Quote: Janerobot
    but the more the volume, the more taxes,

    This is not always the case: there are periods when sales are growing - and prices are falling (that's all) ...
    In addition, there are other points.
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 12 October 2021 08: 15
      0
      we wrote about gas above in the comments, but prices for it are growing
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 11 October 2021 20: 42
    +1
    Quote: Janerobot
    and who does not let you work instead of guest workers

    I apologize wildly, but this is a typical troll phrase, alas ...
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 12 October 2021 08: 17
      0
      well, troll is so troll, but to the question you can give an answer that does not allow you to work instead of migrant workers
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 11 October 2021 20: 59
    0
    Quote: Stroporez
    Quote: Stepan S
    Both Rosneft and Gazprom are the main taxpayers to the budget of the Russian Federation. So the people cannot but worry about it.
    These, supposedly, "national treasures" have serious tax breaks / benefits and that they pay there is a great secret.

    Quite right! Already several times I wrote in the comments to the "gas" articles that everything is very difficult here and the joyful Polovtsian dances of a number of commentators are not entirely appropriate and explained why (receiving a minus in response). I would like to add to what was written earlier about the shareholders of Gazprom: the fact that the state owns 50% (with a little), and "other" persons (including foreign ones) 49% (more than) of the shares, in the case of distribution of dividends means mandatory receipt "other" persons of profit and does not mean its obligatory receipt by our state in the same proportion (such experience already exists) ...
  • Seamaster
    Seamaster 11 October 2021 22: 12
    -1
    Gazprom vs Rosneft - the battle of the Nanai boys. Naturally, Rosneft will win. The pipe will be 100% full. And it's not a fact that Rosneft will pump its "native" gas there. It will pay Gazprom for half of the pumped gas, and it will be given this gas on the territory of Russia - already its own, "native". And in Germany, gas will again be divided into 2 rations and sold together, coordinating prices. Moreover, Gazprom will trade under VALID contracts, while Rosneft will trade on the spot.
    1. Liam
      Liam 11 October 2021 22: 44
      0
      Quote: Seamaster
      And in Germany, gas will again be divided into 2 rations and sold together, coordinating prices

      And the European antimonopoly services will naturally clap their ears and applaud this
      Quote: Seamaster
      Battle of the Nanai Boys
      .....


      Quote: Seamaster
      and Rosneft is on the spot.

      If Rosnnft enters the spot with the amount of gas that must will sell at any price - spot prices will collapse instantly and pull long-term Gazprom
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 12 October 2021 20: 21
    +1
    Quote: Janerobot
    well, troll is so troll, but to the question you can give an answer that does not allow you to work instead of migrant workers

    Is this a real question or a joke ??? belay
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 13 October 2021 21: 20
      0
      real question
  • Vladimir 62
    Vladimir 62 13 October 2021 06: 07
    +2
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    Cereals, vegetables - almost all of them grew by over 30%.
    And the official inflation rate is 6,7%

    so the people and the government think the percentage of inflation in different ways, then we look more at the prices of food (eat it every day) then at all sorts of clothes, cars, electronics, and the government, when calculating the level, includes everything and iron and gold and oil, etc. .d. So it turns out that groats have risen in price by 30% and spruce cones in the forest when they are sold have fallen in price by 80%, and the average for the ward is 6,7%, and it seems to me that the government is cunning, to put it mildly, about such a percentage of inflation
  • p0pulivox
    p0pulivox 13 October 2021 21: 34
    +1
    Quote: Janerobot
    real question

    Those. Do you know that employers are much more likely to prefer migrants because they are more profitable for them?
    1. I am not a robot
      I am not a robot 14 October 2021 15: 35
      -1
      the employer always prefers what is more profitable, and there are migrants here
      1. p0pulivox
        p0pulivox 14 October 2021 18: 08
        0
        Surely not a robot? Unique! And what "does not allow to work instead of guest workers"?
        1. I am not a robot
          I am not a robot 15 October 2021 19: 48
          -1
          from our village they travel around the country and work together with migrants, which does not give you
          1. p0pulivox
            p0pulivox 16 October 2021 16: 57
            +1
            And why is the "janerobot" tapping on the keyboard and not wanting to do this personally: "from the village they quite travel around the country and work together with migrants" ?! winked
            However, to hell with them with trolls, let's put the question more broadly: Why are there no normal socio-economic conditions at the place of residence and people should leave their families and travel on the so-called. watch ???
            1. I am not a robot
              I am not a robot 16 October 2021 17: 10
              -1
              I already work, why should I travel, and friends and relatives go and work, but they will not go to work for 30-40 thousand to Moscow, as migrants do, and it is easy in the Saratov region
              find a job for this money
              even in developed countries like the usa, people have to leave home to get a good job, so this is quite normal
              1. p0pulivox
                p0pulivox 16 October 2021 17: 15
                +1
                I am glad for you (as I understand, that you work here as a commentator) and for the United States, but my acquaintances from Saratov itself have left, tk. there was no suitable and well-paid job for them ... No.
                And yes, I have not received an answer why people should: a) go somewhere and b) compete with migrants?
                1. I am not a robot
                  I am not a robot 16 October 2021 17: 23
                  -1
                  then you also work here as a commentator
                  probably if you answer the question why people move to the usa, then you will understand why people leave in Russia too (there is no well-paid job in the field, etc.)
                  competition brings out the best
                  1. p0pulivox
                    p0pulivox 16 October 2021 17: 47
                    +1
                    Some perplexity remains from your answers and the conclusion arises that if “competition brings out the best” in our country, then the rest need to crawl to the cemetery. If you look at how the situation with fertility and mortality is developing, then the last assumption is, in principle, fully realized ...
                    1. I am not a robot
                      I am not a robot 16 October 2021 18: 03
                      -1
                      you have very strange conclusions on my comments, from my point of view of course
                      we will not understand each other. happily.
                      1. p0pulivox
                        p0pulivox 16 October 2021 18: 13
                        +1
                        Yes, few people will understand you, this is a fact and you are happy.