Tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile from an underwater carrier completed

Tests of the Zircon hypersonic missile from an underwater carrier have been completed, the test objectives have been achieved. The commander of the Northern fleet Alexander Moiseev.

Speaking at a conference call at the Ministry of Defense, Moiseyev reported that on October 4, 2021, the Zircon hypersonic missile was tested from the Project 885 Yasen multipurpose nuclear submarine Severodvinsk. All systems, including the submarine and the rocket, worked normally and without any remarks. The test objectives have been achieved, and the submarine tests have been completed.

(...) taking into account the previously conducted tests and firing, the Zircon hypersonic cruise missile has confirmed all its characteristics

- reported the commander of the Northern Fleet.

In response, the head of the Ministry of Defense congratulated all those involved in this event on the completion of the missile testing and said that the Zircon would be put into service in the near future.

On October 4, the Severodvinsk nuclear submarine conducted two launches of the Zircon hypersonic missile as part of the tests. The first launch took place from the surface position, the second - from a depth of 40 meters. In both cases, the missile, according to objective control data, hit the targets.

Let us remind you that the contract for the supply of Zircons has already been signed.

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[Thrifty]

This is good! Let's drink to Zircon, to everyone who created it and put it in the Navy

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Thrifty

This makes me happy! Let's drink to Zircon, to everyone who created it and put it in the Navy

Cheers, comrades!

[Orange bigg]

Let's have a drink. It is only important that your head is not dizzy with success. We still have many plans, a lot needs to be done with regards not only to Zircon.

. It is expected that "Zircons" will go into service on frigates of projects 22350, submarines of project 885M "Yasen-M", as well as on the cruiser "Admiral Nakhimov" and the submarine "Irkutsk", which are undergoing modernization. They plan to replace the heavy anti-ship missile P-700 "Granit", which was put into service back in the 1980s.

As noted by a researcher at the Center for North American Studies, IMEMO. EAT. Ilya Kramnik, the peculiarity of the movement of the Zircon rocket in the atmosphere is that its speed is many times higher than the fastest anti-ship missiles used today.
The Zircon flies higher than a traditional cruise missile and faster - now reported at a speed of 2,65 kilometers per second. The maximum speed can be higher. This is about 4 times faster than the fastest anti-ship missiles in use today. For example, "Onyx" moves at a speed of about 700 meters per second. This speed of the Zircon's flight makes it difficult to intercept. And given the fact that the rocket can also maneuver in flight, this complexity increases significantly. The missile dives from a great height to the target, thus, it is in the air defense zone of the formation for a rather short time and it is very difficult to intercept it in this section of the trajectory, "Kramnik said.

“The missile, coming out from under the water, carries out a flight in airspace, enters the target area and strikes it. For example, a potential enemy is looking for a submarine within a radius of 300-400 miles and does not find it - it is not there. And suddenly they receive hypersonic "goodies", - said Leonkov.

The expert stressed that today there is no weapon capable of stopping the Zircon.
“The Americans have stated many times that they have not found the 'antidote' for Zircon. Their last anti-missile SM-3, which develops a speed of up to Mach 3,5, cannot intercept the Zircon - it was created to intercept the Onyx. When the United States creates an anti-missile for the Zircon, Russia will already have another missile in service - even faster and more maneuverable, ”Leonkov is convinced.

https://m.gazeta.ru/army/2021/10/04/14050075.shtml

... The Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation has conducted large-scale tests of hypersonic weapons. With a difference of several hours from the waters of the White Sea, two hypersonic missiles 3M22 "Zircon" were launched. For the first time, a submarine became the launch pad for these products: they were launched from the Severodvinsk submarine. Moreover, one of the launches was made from under the water. By the end of the year, a decision will be made on the timing of the adoption of the missile into service, as well as on the beginning of the first serial deliveries of these products to the troops. 3M22 can hit sea and ground targets at a distance of over 1000 km. Experts note that it is impossible to protect the existing air defense and missile defense systems from such weapons.

https://iz.ru/1230803/anton-lavrov-aleksei-ramm/tcirkon-surov-v-rossii-proveli-ispytaniia-giperzvukovogo-oruzhiia

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: OrangeBigg

3M22 can hit sea and ground targets at a distance over 1000 km.

in my opinion too much.
1. She is in the dimensions of "Onyx", otherwise she would not fit into 3C14 (UKSK)
2.Having the same dimensions and weight as the 3M55 (up to 600 km at a speed
the range of the 3M22 is 3% longer than that of the 55M40 at a speed
"2,65 km per second" ((7-8 M) vs 884 m / s (M = 2,6)
It does not happen
Either ours invented a new fuel with I beats = 700 sec and the density of mercury or interfered with the physical essence of being, maybe
The resistance force depends on the speed of movement and is proportional to its second degree (Stokes' formula). In contrast to the forces of internal friction, it is often called the force of dynamic frontal resistance:
Fc = Cxa * S * ro (atm) * V ^ 2/2
Cxa = Cxr + Cxf + Cxw + Cxi it is the same in "africa"
therefore, the dynamic drag force of the 3M22 is 3 times greater than that of the 55M9 !!!
(2650 (m / s) * 2650 (m / s) / 884 (m / s) * 884 (m / s))
ALMOST ORDER and thrust / beats. the impulse will be required an order of magnitude more, of the same dimensions.
And if the range is MORE than a thousand, then also count * 2
Conclusion:

it was and is and will always be:
either the speed but at an altitude, or the range (here it is possible even at low altitude, but the most economical echelon for a diesel engine at V = 800-900 km / h) is 10-11 tons meters.

[Thrifty]

ja-ja-vw-maybe the same launch container, and the ja-missile itself is a hypersonic glider-of a smaller size? Then, naturally, the flight range of Zircon will be greater than that of Onyx.

[Kalmar]

Quote: Thrifty

and the oaketa itself is a hypersonic glider of a smaller size?

And how to stick the then promised warhead of 300-400 kg into it (like onyx or more)? And you need a place under the GOS.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Thrifty

, and the oaketa itself is a hypersonic glider of a smaller size?

"glider" is something that glides from suborital heights, with V close to 7,9 km / s, under the influence of gravity
3M22, as I understand it, has a non-detachable missile, the rocket itself is single-stage.
What's the difference? Before M7-M9 it is necessary to accelerate EVERYTHING, and to overcome the force of gravity and bring to an echelon of 30 km - 50 km.

Quote: Thrifty

the flight range of Zircon will be greater than that of Onyx.

this does not happen, with the same dimensions.
On April 20, 2010, the first flight of the UBB Falcon HTV-2 took place in the United States, the device was launched on board the Minotaur IV launch vehicle from the Vandenberg US Air Force Base in California ...
Duc Minotaur IV is considered an ICBM MX "peacemaker" with a launch weight of 86 tons, a length of 24 m and a diameter of 2,33
or remember
5V28 S-200 air defense system with E-57 in 1991, worked 77 seconds and scored 1832 m / s (6.5M).
Flight altitude - up to 35 km.
The engine turned off, braking against the atmosphere reduced the speed and then destruction.
5V28 is a TWO stepped missile defense system with a mass of 11 m and a starting weight of 7,1 tons. / could hit a large target with a light warhead at a distance of up to 300 km)
The E-57 was thrown to an altitude of 35 km and accelerated to a speed of 1200 m / s at about a distance of 30 km, the E-57 GPZD turned on and worked for 77 seconds. accelerating from 1200 m / s to 1832 m / s, let 77 sec * 1832 = 141 km
with our experiments, on HYDROGEN (the best Iud! but not applicable in military affairs) we got 141 + 30 = 190-200 km of range on a 3-stage rocket with a "booster" mass of 7 tons

[Old tanker]

How many people say that this does not happen and cannot be. More recently, here at the VO, some said that it was impossible to squeeze a hypersonic missile into the dimensions of a 3S14. The formulas were also given. It was said that "Zircon" is a bluff. And that's how it came out - it is, flies and is put into service! So, with the range, let's see how it is in real life, and not according to the formulas.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Old Tankman

So, with the range, let's see how it is in real life, and not according to the formulas.

you can squeeze in. how to provide more range than onyx?
...
look, look.
the laws of physics, as soon as they have been mastered / studied, have not yet been refuted by anyone.
There are many Petriks in our country, but there are practically no Oppenheimers.
1. That we have somewhere breakthrough technologies and Nobel laureates appeared in 30 years?
I did not see. I know that we sell frigates to Indians, because we could not master the production of remote control systems for them in 7 years, I know that we cannot launch glonas2, we have lost the market for space launches, etc.
2. Our President is a graduate of the Faculty of Law, and the Minister of Defense is a civil engineer. None of them served in the army, did not hold "missiles" in their hands.
You can declare whatever you want.
/ but that's my opinion.
The Ukrainians firmly believe that their stronghold 1 will tear down 10500 "armat" and scatter all thousands of T-90 / T-72.

Blessed is he who believes, it is warm to him in the world!

[Dart2027]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

the laws of physics, as soon as they have been mastered / studied, have not yet been refuted by anyone.

Do you know how the rocket works? By themselves, the laws of physics do not solve anything, technology decides everything.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Dart2027

Do you know how the rocket works?

a rocket in general, yes, of course.
3M22 - of course not.
/ What does it change?

Quote: Dart2027

By themselves, the laws of physics do not solve anything, technology decides everything.

1. Can you explain to me now on the finger what is the thrust of the taxiway from the physical point of view?
2. Tell us about our "technologies", which you can, of course, at the level of educational program. I'll listen.
Shl. I don’t know any of the breakthrough technologies of our country either in materials science, or in fuel, or in composite materials.

[Dart2027]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

What does it change?

The fact that you do not know how it works and what it can and what it cannot.

Quote: ja-ja-vw

I don’t know any of the breakthrough technologies of our country either in materials science, or in fuel, or in composite materials.

Do you have access to the appropriate level? Truth?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Dart2027

The fact that you do not know how it works and what it can and what it cannot.

2 * 2 = 4 in our world.
and two parallel lines do not intersect.
The rest is all petricism, or petricism
https://fas.gov.ru/news/10720

Quote: Dart2027

Do you have access to the appropriate level? Truth?

I don’t, not really.
our Constitution is not forbidden to think, analyze.
Breakthrough discoveries do not happen from scratch (the latest is the invention of the wheel).
To fly like ZM22 ("1000 km and more", 9M, 400 kg warhead), at least you need
- a new fuel providing a higher Isp. Higher than H2, with a density not less than UDMH (and with the same performance characteristics).
or straight-through yard
with the chemical industry, we are generally tight
-realization in practice of detonation combustion in the tract
- new construction materials (km)
-solution of the issue with a thermal barrier (endothermic fuel?) and new km again, or something similar to a "cavitation bubble" for the atmosphere
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I am not aware of any works or publications on this topic.
Can you have one? I will get acquainted with pleasure

[Dart2027]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

I am not aware of any works or publications on this topic.
Can you have one? I will get acquainted with pleasure

Quote: Dart2027

Do you have access to the appropriate level?

To analyze you need to have all the necessary information, without which no analysis is possible in principle.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Dart2027

To analyze, you need to have all the necessary information, without which no analysis is, in principle, possible.

which exit?
"okryams", turn on the skabeeva and the nightingale, buy some pivasik and wait?

[Dart2027]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

which exit?

Quote: Dart2027

To analyze you need to have all the necessary information, without which no analysis is possible in principle.

As I understand it, there is nothing to argue?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Dart2027

As I understand it, there is nothing to argue?

What to object to?
A person asking to "object" to what?
To empty provocative splashes? Unproven by anything, acrome tops, what is pouring from all the irons anyway?
Here:

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there is no opinion, no information, no thought.
I don’t want this:

Quote: OrangeBigg

Ask the FSB to help you familiarize yourself with the topic. They know what to do with those curious like you.

and that turned out to be more honest.
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an extra ten "-" will not make anonymous weather. But I'm tired of it. Skushnaa

[Dart2027]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

To empty provocative splashes? Unproven by anything, acrome tops, what is pouring from all the irons anyway?

Again

Quote: Dart2027

To analyze you need to have all the necessary information, without which no analysis is possible in principle.

Essentially have something to say?

[Orange bigg]

I do not know of any works or publications on this topic.
Can you have one? I will get acquainted with pleasure

Ask the FSB to help you familiarize yourself with the topic. They know what to do with those curious like you.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Ask the FSB to help you familiarize yourself with the topic. They know what to do with those curious like you.

do you have a lot of experience?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

Quote: OrangeBigg

Ask the FSB to help you familiarize yourself with the topic. They know what to do with those curious like you.

do you have a lot of experience?

Experience what?

[ja-ja-vw]

Well, communication with the FSB of course.
can write denunciations?
if you know that

Quote: OrangeBigg

they know what to do with as curious as you

means you have already used it?

[Orange bigg]

can write denunciations?

I have never written denunciations, but I think that our country should always be helped, including counterintelligence.

.if you know that
Quote: OrangeBigg
they know what to do with as curious as you

Even children in kindergarten know this, that the FSB knows what to do in such cases and for this it is not necessary to use something.

[ja-ja-vw]

helping and slandering / knocking are two different things.
Just read WHAT you wrote (by shaking) and in WHAT you wrote, comprehend.
However, I do not interfere: you can print and take

Quote: OrangeBigg

always help, including counterintelligence.

maybe they won't even laugh.

Quote: OrangeBigg

Even children in kindergarten know this, that the FSB knows what to do in such cases.

my grandchildren do not know, although they are in kindergarten, and the children did not know, even at school.
Not worth it

[bayard]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

... Can you explain to me now on your finger

Well, let's try, though on the fingers.
You gave examples of American gliders launched by solid-propellant missiles (SAMs) at altitude. The rockets were two-stage.
"Zircon" has 2 steps:
1) Booster \ starting booster - solid fuel.
2) Actually GZUR with a ramjet engine.
An air-jet engine (any) differs from a rocket engine in that it uses atmospheric oxygen as an oxidizer, and does not pull in a tank with an oxidizer, except for fuel. It's just to do away with the glider comparisons on TT rockets.
The direct-flow VRM has one feature: at speeds above 3M, with a further increase in speed, the fuel efficiency of this type of engine also grows - the specific consumption per kilometer of track. And very seriously. And its fuel efficiency grows in direct proportion to the increase in speed. The faster, the more economical. Why is this so difficult to take advantage of (the benefit of being more economical at high hypersonic speeds?
There are two reasons - the temperature barrier \ heating of the leading edges and the body, and the drag (which is the reason for this heating.
There are two ways out - to rise higher, where the air is discharged, but there is still enough oxygen for the engine, and to organize effective cooling of the leading edges.
Temperature is energy. And if we make this temperature work for some kind of operation to decompose a certain substance into its constituent parts, which occurs with a large absorption of heat ... and as a result of the reaction, we get two in one at once - an effective additive to the fuel that increases its calorie content and ... much more effective cooling of the leading edges, in which this operation will take place. And - voila, what hindered us helps us - cools and increases cravings.
This is an old idea, a lot has been written and talked about in its time.
Now about the range.
If the GZUR has the same mass, drag (approximately) and fuel on board, as a supersonic cruise missile with a ramjet engine, then ... which of them will have the best fuel efficiency?
Of course, the GZUR.
As a result, on the same amount of fuel, the GZUR will fly farther than the SZR with a ramjet engine. The truth is at a higher altitude. And she needs the upper stage more powerful.
So everything is fine with the theory; this does not contradict the law of physics.

And the question is, Porutchik, do you know where the monument to your prototype was erected?
Hint - rockets were fired in that city too.
And maybe even now they are releasing some simpler ones.
You won't be from there?

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: bayard

You gave examples of American gliders launched by solid-propellant missiles (SAMs) at altitude. The rockets were two-stage.

1. Our missiles were launched. SAM 5V28 from the S-200Vega air defense system, the E-57 apparatus, worked on HYDROGEN
2. The Americans launched with the help of ICBMs: UBB Falcon HTV-2, the device was launched on board the Minotaur IV launch vehicle (ICBM Peacekeeper) from the launch weighing 86 tons, д

Quote: bayard

"Zircon" has 2 steps

Boost stage ... defective stage. More like a starter motor. The rocket stage is what

provides flight at a certain stage active section of the trajectory and consisting of a rocket engine, fuel compartment with fuel supply, fuel supply systems, controls and equipment, elements

5S25 or 5S28 in the 5V28 SAM is also not a stage.

Quote: bayard

at speeds above 3M, with a further increase in speed, the fuel efficiency of this type of engine also grows - specific consumption per kilometer. And very seriously

and the resistance of the environment grows very seriously in proportion to the SQUARE of speed.
Yes, the term "fuel efficiency" is hardly applicable to HPWG.
Think: your fuel simply will not have time to burn and release heat on a very short path at a supersonic speed of the fuel mixture (you still need to mix it) in the combustion chamber.

Quote: bayard

then ... which one will have the best fuel efficiency?

and who will have more flow resistance?
3M55: marching section 14000 m / 0,2279 kg / m3
3M22: 32000m? 0,0136 kg / m3
Fc = Cxa * S *ro (atm) *V ^ 2 /2
Cxa = Cxp + Cxf + Cxw + Cxi
the density decreased by 16 times, and because of the speed, the resistance increased by almost 10 times.
And oh, subject to Sha, equal.
And it is not equal, Cxw + Cxi will increase significantly, because the odds. wave and coeff. inductive reactance will rise significantly.

Quote: bayard

And she needs the upper stage more powerful.

I didn’t see the difference

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Quote: bayard

You won't be from there?

practice passed. but there are "wrong" missiles. It is necessary to KTRV, and not to A_A
there are many places where there is a monument to the lieutenant. Kursk, Sochi
To summarize: let it be tyshsha. If only they did not deceive, as always. I don’t have any trust

[Old tanker]

Once General Grechko said that while he was the Minister of Defense he would not allow tanks to be stuck with explosives! After all, they will explode. Grechko was gone, the Jews were the first to install the Blazer ERA on their tanks.
There was such a program under the Union - "The obvious - the incredible." Kapitsa led. This is where the laws of physics have not been canceled!

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Old Tankman

Grechko was gone, the Jews were the first to install Blazer ERA on their tanks

Grechko was a minister until 1976, V.I.Bakalov began to work on something like in 1960, obviously not at his own expense.
T-64 was equipped with KAZ "Veer -3"in 1964
KAZ "Azot" in 1976 was tested in full
For the first time DZ "Blizer" appeared in 1975 on the tanks "Shot" and "Magah". It just almost coincided with "Grechko"

"The obvious is the incredible." Kapitsa led.

I watched the class from the 5th to the very end. Test transfer

[qQQQ]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

it was and is and will always be:

Maybe flying on a steep ballistic trajectory? It starts up about 30 kilometers, there is almost space and just as steeply dives on the target.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: qqqq

It starts up about 30 kilometers, there is almost space and just as steeply dives towards the target.

space, officially considered along the Karman line is 100 km (the United States has a smaller one)
this is a b-bullet calculator
http://ada.ru/guns/ballistic/calc/calc.htm
you can practice the range.
Not a complete analogy, but "on the knee" will come down
The maximum range is achieved when firing a rocket at an angle of 48 degrees to the horizon, if not forgotten

[qQQQ]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

The maximum range is achieved when firing a rocket at an angle of 48 degrees to the horizon, if not forgotten

This is if a bullet, i.e. immediately spend all the energy on acceleration, and if the engine works for half the flight exactly, then the fuel consumption for overcoming the atmospheric resistance depends on the altitude.

[ja-ja-vw]

no, the maximum range at 48 degrees is for missiles. Well, that is how it was.
But the zur is not with pvd, but with zhrd or rdtt. They do not need an oxidizer.
although certainly not a correct rocket calculator. But there is no other.
For a rocket with pvd, you need to use the "Trajectory" software package, but ... this is not public access, as I understand it, you cannot use it ?.
the ballistic trajectory will be less. The ramjet engine needs an oxidizing agent in the air.
You came up with a good idea and thought.
No

Quote: qqqq

on a steep ballistic trajectory

and vice versa, on a flat and ricochet, then yes, the range for la with pvd increases

[qQQQ]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

The ramjet engine needs an oxidizing agent in the air.

I agree with everything, but the higher the speed, the more rarefied the atmosphere the pvd can work, on the graph the trajectory with a jump and passes at an altitude of about 30 km. Most likely the way it is.

[lucul]

in my opinion too much.
1. She is in the dimensions of "Onyx", otherwise she would not fit into 3C14 (UKSK)
2.Having the same dimensions and weight as the 3M55 (up to 600 km at a speed
the range of the 3M22 is 3% longer than that of the 55M40 at a speed
"2,65 km per second" ((7-8 M) vs 884 m / s (M = 2,6)
It does not happen

Well, it's so obvious that Onyx did not squeeze the maximum possible out of its dimensions))))

Either ours invented a new fuel with I beats = 700 sec and the density of mercury or interfered with the physical essence of being

They said in Russian - on new physical principles)))
Confirmation - the rocket confirmed all the declared characteristics during the tests.

[lucul]

What is it like? Have you placed the fuel supply in the 4th dimension?

You remind me:
"There is no movement," said the sage sage.
Another was silent and began to walk before him.
He could not have argued more strongly; "
Or rather, Zeno of Elea, who also argued that "there is no movement," and you prove that there is no Zircon. )))
Calm down, the Americans have already tracked everything during the tests and made conclusions, and if there is no refutation on their part, then they also confirm the stated performance characteristics.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: lucul

you prove that there is no Zircon. )))

I?

Quote: lucul

Calm down, the Americans have already tracked everything during the tests and made conclusions, and if there is no refutation on their part, then they also confirm the stated performance characteristics.

so I imagine the Amerukan satellites swarming in high orbits one after another, given the precession of the planet vigilantly plowing the Barents Sea

[bayard]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

or speed but at altitude

Maybe that's the trick?
In the train?
The starting mass of the Zircon is higher than the Onyx - 3,8 tons versus over 4,5 tons. A more powerful booster will push it higher and accelerate it harder, and then a direct-flow engine, whose specific fuel consumption per kilometer decreases with increasing speed. This is theoretically possible. Here are just the declared range of 1000 km. "Zircon" never confirmed - not a single message about a range of more than 450 km. did not have . If this is its real range ... well, let it be 500 - 550 km. , then, in principle, it is also not bad, although not what was stated.
If only he hit the target.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: bayard

The more powerful booster will push it higher and disperse it harder

hardly higher

by eye: the work of the launch and acceleration stage, turning on the declination engine, bringing the rocket to a horizontal position; dropping the fairing of the nose of the rocket - EVERYTHING LIKE BRAMOS

I didn’t sit with a timer, I didn’t believe it with a ruler, but it’s identical.

Quote: bayard

If this is its real range ... well, let it be 500 - 550 km. , then, in principle, it is also not bad, although not what was stated.

why make a fuss?
P-800 "Onyx" (3M55).
Because of the word hypersound?

[bayard]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

why make a fuss?
P-800 "Onyx" (3M55).
Because of the word hypersound?

I will correct - "Onyx-M" - the second name of "Zircon".
Everything else is according to the declared characteristics. There are still questions about the range, but the range of the last launches was not reported.
I will assume - 1000+ km. - for ground stationary targets with previously known coordinates,
450 - 550 km - anti-ship missiles. But this is an assumption.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: bayard

I will assume - 1000+ km. - for ground stationary targets with previously known coordinates,
450 - 550 km - anti-ship missiles. But this is an assumption

?
I do not see the connection.
The gsn captures at a distance of 50-70 km (it strongly depends on the altitude here) flies around the station along the ISN.
at 9M there is no big time difference
500 km: = 163-200 seconds. no ship can go anywhere.
The range varies only from the cruising altitude (profile), but the GPZ is unlikely to fly on PMV at SUCH speed

Quote: bayard

Correct - "Onyx-M"

not worth it. they are different (by name)
"Onyx-M"

On the basis of the "Onyx" cruise missile in service, a new version, "Onyx-M", has been developed, with a maximum range of 800 kilometers.

maybe M and test, and talk about 3M22?

[bayard]

Quote: ja-ja-vw

I do not see the connection.
gsn captures at a distance of 50-70 km (it depends on the altitude here) flies around the station on the ISN

For a stationary target, there can be a simplified seeker - it is lighter, more fuel can be accommodated (but then this is a separate modification), higher echelon and without maneuvering.
The anti-ship missile system should maneuver anyway, losing energy, reducing the range, lower echelon.
RCC always has a shorter range.
It is also possible that 1000 km. for GZUR with special warheads - it is much lighter, echelon 40 km. +, without maneuvering.
The GZUR does not fly on PMV.

Quote: ja-ja-vw

"Onyx-M", which received a maximum range of 800 kilometers

Perhaps yes. By analogy, I suggested that the Hindus at exhibitions have repeatedly exhibited the layout of "Brahmos-2", the configuration is the same as that of "Zircon" (which is being painted). So I suggested.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: bayard

For a stationary purpose, a simplified seeker can be - easier

The mass of the GOS 3K55 is 85 kg (it is specific in itself, maybe in a cone vz)

for ZM-14 ARGS-14E with a diameter of 514 mm and a weight of 40 kg
I do not think that 45 kg will give an increase of 500 km

[bayard]

If at the maximum echelon, without maneuvering and until the full depletion of fuel with inertial flight ... At such a speed, but from such a height, you can fly a lot by inertia.
Soon there will be another launch, this time a salvo from the "Gorshkov", maybe after it something about the practical range will be reported.

[Split]

AOna went into service for so long that you can already get drunk on such an occasion

[Split]

It is strange that they put a minus, the beginning of the Yasnensky secretariat, where right now they are experiencing the same and where the first Sarmatians will stand ... paradox (c)

[mark1]

Quickly ...- One (two) - and accepted!
RS never sarcastic

[venik]

Quote: mark1

Quickly ...- One (two) - and accepted!
RS never sarcastic

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Well, probably before that, numerous tests were carried out (including and with underwater platforms) ..... So it remains to check the "final touches" .....

[76SSSR]

And what speed did the rocket develop?

[tralflot1832]

If we collect all the reports, then somewhere 12-14 Zircons were launched, this is official for all the years of testing. And the Americans could hang a satellite over the White Sea? Or they have information only from those who flew in and of course from Maryata.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: tralflot1832

Could the Americans have hung a satellite over the White Sea?

What will it give them? They will not be able to discern the appearance of the rocket anyway.
I don’t know how it is now, but three years ago, the resolution of satellite optics was sufficient only to distinguish a passenger car from a truck. And all these "war stories" about the text in the book or the value of a coin from the realm of Hollywood films, like "Under Siege 2" or "Enemy of the State."

[tralflot1832]

This is understandable, the most interesting for them is the profile of Zircon's flight, when he switches from a cruising flight to an attack trajectory and how he flies into the side or deck from above. Or, like Granite from the stern, cutting the superstructure in two, for the last time. Granite.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

At what height should the satellite be located in order to at least more or less clearly capture this all?

[tralflot1832]

When the Ukrainians shot down TU 154 from the Opuk test site, the Americans were the first to announce this. I just don't know where they got the information from the ship, the coast or from space. You can say everything.

[military_cat]

In 1991, the Americans detected the launches of Scud tactical missiles from DSP infrared satellites, transmitted information to Israel so that they would turn on the sirens, and the population descended into the basements. In 2001, DSPs were also in orbit. They have now been replaced by more modern SBIRS.

[Paranoid50]

Quote: tralflot1832

Granite from the stern splitting the superstructure in two.

Practical and effective, for large hemorrhoids - a large candle. Department of Extreme Proctology at the Russian Navy - only one session is required, 100% guarantee.

Quote: tralflot1832

In my opinion this is an autograph at Granite.

Rather, a signature-resolution on the verdict and at the same time an epitaph. Amen.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

They will not be able to discern the appearance of the rocket anyway.

and what gives the "external" appearance?
you need the composition of the fuel, the organization of the combustion process along the length of the chamber, the air intake (it is from the bottom), the materials of the ends and copings.

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

At what height should the satellite be located in order to at least more or less clearly capture this all?

150-400 km.
Gugulovsky open images - Chkalovsk

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And if ZM 22 is at an altitude of 50 km?
- no clouds
-atmosphere is almost gone
-distance (for focusing) decreased by 15-25%
and?

[Stepan S]

Zircon is everything. Soon it will be routinely reported that a Project 885M nuclear submarine armed with Zircon missiles has been launched from the slipway in Severodvinsk, or a Project 22350 frigate with similar weapons has been launched from the Northern Shipyard's slipway.

[Jacket in stock]

And again I will ask an unpleasant question - what about target designation?
The rocket was made, and this is very encouraging.
But without target designation, it's like a gun without a sight. You can shoot "somewhere there", towards the target, but getting there is a separate art.

[tralflot1832]

The latest shooting talks about target designation by destroyers and TU 142, not a word about space.

[Thrifty]

Konstantin is in reserve, that is, it is impossible to aim the rocket on the chain according to yours? The satellites all went out of orbit, the UAVs fell en masse, the missile's homing system failed? What exactly is the snag ???

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Thrifty

The satellites are all out of orbit,

Yes, it seems like a long time ago.

UAVs were hit en masse,

and what, were they?

missile homing system failed?

so she must first be shown where to aim, and only then she herself ...

[Thrifty]

Constantine is in reserve, that is, we have nothing in orbit at all. ??

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

1) How do you imagine the imperceptible movement of the AUG towards the borders of Russia?
2) Do you think the anti-ship missile hits the exact coordinates of the ship like a simple projectile?

[Petio]

OK! The heir to Granite and Onyx was in existence! Although I think Zircon will be expensive and for the first time just add them