People in uniform and reports from federal channels: public confusion from the wedding of the "descendant of the Romanov dynasty"

Already several days have passed since the wedding of a man who calls himself a descendant of the Romanov family, Georgy Mikhailovich, with a representative of the "noble family" of Italy, Rebecca Bettarini. But the days go by, and the hype around this event does not subside. The magnificent celebration caused a lot of questions from, let's say, the general public. Representatives of the expert community were also surprised at the “first wedding of the Romanovs in 120 years” in St. Isaac's Cathedral.

Lush dresses, hats, famous people surrounded by the "Grand Duke", a strange "honor guard", in respect of which the question is still not clear: these are real servicemen or representatives of "creative teams" dressed in military uniform.

After what they saw, many Russians exclaimed: "What was that all about?"

And the correspondent of TK "Zvezda" (and this is a federal channel) said so bluntly:

Honor guard company

On the one hand, there is a lavish celebration that could have been typical of the mid-1990s, when the so-called “new Russians” could afford banquets in state museums. On the other hand, everything seems to be quite official. If there may still be questions about the guard (and not "mummers"), then there can be no questions about the police officers who actually guarded the guests of the ceremony and its main characters. There can be NO questions about the release of a commemorative medal on the occasion of the wedding.

It seemed that the "couple of Romanovs" could only rush in the troika to Pervoprestolnaya and arrange the distribution of rolls and bottling of kvass on the Khodynskoye field.

Reflections of Konstantin Semin:

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[Alexga]

People, what the hell is this going on ???

[Uncle lee]

It remains only for ALL to sing: "God Save the Tsar" ....

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

It remains only for ALL to sing: "God Save the Tsar" ....

Better like this ...

No one will give us deliverance:
Neither god, nor king, nor hero.
We will achieve liberation
With his own hand.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tihonmarine

We will achieve liberation
With his own hand.

To the very point!

[Shurik70]

"the wedding ... of the Romanovs ... is not a question of the Kremlin"
Of course. This is not the Kremlin.
This is in Petrova with Bashirov.
Accident, he is so unfortunate.

[Tatyana]

To his mother, who illegally claims to be the heiress to the Russian throne, the West already several years ago promised to recognize her as the legitimate empress - on condition that she would essentially be a foreign puppet and would give the West Russia under external control and all that stuff.

Several years ago I already wrote in the comments on "VO" about this.

Besides. Such passports have long been "walking" in the hands of some of the same monarchist Cossacks. Then I did not take such a whim seriously. And apparently in vain.

Wait for Russia of Troubles!

[stalki]

To his wife, illegally claiming to be the heiress to the Russian throne, the West promised several years ago to recognize her as the legitimate empress - on the condition that she would essentially be a foreign puppet and would give Russia to the West under external control and so on.

Several years ago I already wrote in the comments on "VO" about this.

Besides. Such passports have long been "walking" in the hands of some of the same monarchist Cossacks. Then I did not take such a whim seriously. And apparently in vain.

Wait for Russia of Troubles

Aha now all ran to the kings to bow. After what happened in Russia over the past century, you can forget about the monarchy. This does not threaten us. That was what was calculated when the "family" was removed.

[Tatyana]

Quote: stalki

After what happened in Russia over the past century, you can forget about the monarchy. This does not threaten us. That was what was calculated when the "family" was removed.

Don't be naive! Something obscene is really going on behind our backs "above". It would not have been at the wedding of the military guard of honor of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation, I may not have thought.

Useful historical REFERENCE.
Historian Andrei Fursov, in an excerpt from the Fursov School of Analytics, says:
1. Who is the Grand Duchess Maria Vladimirovna?
2. To what extent are her rights to be called "the head of the Russian Imperial House" grounded?
3. Why are the Russian authorities so supportive of her.

Andrey Fursov. Who is Maria Vladimirovna Romanova. June 29, 2017.

[Alexga]

There would be no military guard of honor of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the wedding ...

This is outrageous. The military uniform is an element of belonging to the State, so the question is, what did the State support and take part in this show ?! Although, a monument to Kolchak in Irkutsk, a plaque to Mannerheim in Leningrad ... But what can I say!

[Tatyana]

Why Maria Vladimirovna is considered by true Orthodox Christians to be a "Masonic matryoshka"

Everyone understands perfectly well that Maria false Romanova, who is rushing to the Russian Throne with the stubbornness of a bulldozer, is not just an impostor, but the direct heir to Queen Victoria of England, with all the ensuing consequences.

Competent sources testify that in the official recognition of Maria Romanova and Georgy Hohenzollern as full heirs of the Russian Emperor Nicholas II THE ROTHSCHILDS HAVE ALREADY DONE MORE THAN FIVE MILLION DOLLARS (!). But for them, the game is worth the candle: in return, the Rothschilds receive a FULL REFUSAL OF ALL DEBTS OF THE RUSSIAN EMPIRE, including the Tsar's gold, which formed the basis of the world power of the FRS and, as a result, the United States.

See in detail - Masonic nesting doll or where is the CROSS on this lady? -
https://makaryshka.livejournal.com/440679.html

[Tatyana]

Quote: AlexGa

There would be no military guard of honor of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the wedding ...

This is outrageous. The military uniform is an element of belonging to the State, so the question is, what did the State support and take part in this show ?! Although, a monument to Kolchak in Irkutsk, a plaque to Mannerheim in Leningrad ... But what can I say!

Well, here's another scandalous "cherry on the cake" in this regard.
On July 5, 2012, Sergei Shoigu received the Grand Cross of the Order of Merit pro Merito Melitensi (Order of Malta) - for mercy, salvation and help.

And on November 6, 2012, General of the Army Sergei Kuzhugetovich Shoigu was appointed Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation instead of the resigned Anatoly Serdyukov. According to the press secretary of the Prime Minister Natalya Timakova, Dmitry Medvedev recommended Shoigu for appointment as defense minister.
This also raises a number of questions. What contribution did S.K.Shoigu make to the strengthening of ties, friendship and cooperation between Russia and the Order of Malta, what did he do for this, what goals and tasks did he solve?
It is known that the Knight's Cross is awarded by the Masonic Order for aiding the world behind the scenes in the destruction of Russian statehood, the sovereignty and power of the State. the destruction of Russia and the spiritual degradation of the Russian people, in the loss by the Russians of their national self-identification.

It is worth recalling that together with S.K. Shoigu, those awarded the Knight's Cross are: B.A. Berezovsky, P.P. Borodin, G.E.Burbulis, M.S. Gorbachev, B.N. Yeltsin, V.V. Ilyushin, V.V.Kostikov, M.Yu. Lesin, S.F. Lisovskiy, E.M. Primakov, A.V. Rutskoy, S.A. Filatov, M.Sh. Shaimiev, S.M. Shakhry , V. B. Yumashev, S. V. Yastrzhembsky. What does the former main rescuer of Russia do in this company, which has made the destruction of Russia (what is left of it), the collapse of industry, science and

education, the extinction of the Russian people and the spiritual impoverishment of the nation?
See in detail. - https://poexaliroma.livejournal.com/11226.html

Shoigu was awarded the Masonic Order of Malta! 4 Jul 2018

[alystan]

You dig a little deeper, early-mid-90s, about P. Borodin, look for information, what gifts were presented to him by all sorts of Vatican and Maltese messengers. I am afraid, however, that all information from everywhere must have been "blotted out" long ago, tk. and the chief himself was spotted there.
I am writing from memory, I read it back in the 90s, when EBN's replacement was not yet in the project.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

Although, a monument to Kolchak in Irkutsk, a plaque to Mannerheim in Leningrad ... But what can I say!

Yeah ... That is, you think that the same Kolchak is not a Russian person and he has no place in the history of Russia? And why? Stained with blood? Yes, but his visa-a-vi, on the part of the "red", somehow stained themselves no less, but their names are in the names of the streets, and the images on the monuments. Selling your homeland for money? But now they open the archives and it turns out that the "red" side somehow sinned like that ...

[Storog dvornik]

What does the Russian person have to do with it? Chikatilo was also Russian, his victims are no better off from this. And why is he Russian, if his ancestors are Turks, but rather Jews ...
Kolchak has been a British officer since December 1917 ... That is, with arms in hand, as the head of a British PMC, and with the support of the British authorities, he carried out armed resistance to the current legitimate government for British pounds sterling, for which he was launched under the ice as an enemy of the labor force. people and Soviet power ...
During the period of his extremist activities, he carried out a mass genocide of the population of Z. Siberia, burning and shooting entire settlements ... Until now, in Omsk villages, the most evil dogs are given the nickname "Kolchak" and not, for example, "Stalin" ...
The people's memory is long ...

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Kolchak was still a polar explorer, and the chief (this is how commanders were called before the revolution) of the Baltic Fleet's Mine Division in WWI. Then he was appointed commander of the Black Sea Fleet - and quite successful. And he did all these things under the St. Andrew's flag. And the civil war is a terrible thing. All participants in this war were not carried away by mercy.

[Siberian54]

And what does the Arctic region have to do with it? The Naglovsky officer, with the help of Austrian military formations, captures half of the country, the gold reserve squanders in all grave ... Almost in all villages around the place where I live on the graves there are monuments to the victims of his punishers ... clowns, but did not offend circus)

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

History does not have one color. It cannot be either black or white. It is what it is. About Kolchak there are many things that can be said - different. And he is an ambiguous figure. Say that the Kolchakites committed atrocities? I don’t argue. And so it was. But were the Reds humanists? In Sevastopol, how many thousand officers were drowned? Although Frunze promised them the preservation of life in captivity. I will repeat - war is a cruel thing. And civil war in general ... God forbid its repetition. the same attitude as me towards the Spanish giants are doing a cheap show using too condescending attitude. those in power to such things.

[Siberian54]

Yes, after the Volga riots, monstrous in their cruelty and rampant terror, the Reds found a means so that peaceful inhabitants who love to kill their neighbors with sticks did not twitch in the near rear in the liberated cities of Siberia to shoot the local "elite" (sorry for the slang)

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

And who is the elite? Priests? Officials.? Merchants? Just wealthy townspeople? The reasons for their executions? Is it just a class enemy by definition? Do you really think that the White Guard armies were often made up of aristocrats? There were also the peasantry and the Cossacks, the workers, and the bourgeois.

[Siberian54]

Aristocrats in Siberia? Fear God! In our country, even the Jews do not take root very much ... They shot influential people who were insolently covered in terror ... In civil wars, there are no whites and fluffy on both sides. First, some commit atrocities (however, compared to the Japanese conquerors, Kolchak residents are really cute children in the sandbox ) then comes the otvetka yes with welding.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

That's what I'm talking about. The most terrible and merciless of the wars is the civil one. Therefore, it is impossible to judge objectively about the events of a century ago from the present bell tower. The centuries-old foundations were crumbling. The usual life of hundreds of millions of people collapsed. I in no way justify any of the opposing sides, I want to understand WHAT moved them. The same Kolchak is on the one hand a punisher and a bandit. Just like the Reds are not cherubs. But on the other hand - a brilliant naval officer and polar explorer. The same way the Reds - they shed a sea of ​​blood - but the goal they proclaimed was noble. Namely, the mottos of the French Revolution - Freedom. Equality. Brotherhood. But how the revolution ended in France is known - they cut off the king. with his wife head off in order to wiggle out the emperor who drenched the whole of Europe with blood.

[ivan2022]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

The most terrible and merciless of the wars is the civil one.

Fact ! And the meaning of the fact? Why is she the scariest one?

The "Russian man" Kolchak in 1918 formed an army in the territory occupied by Japan, and the "Russian man" Denikin - in the territory occupied by Germany. And in 1919 he received a British order for this. For what "polar research"?

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Formed an army ... From whom? Are they really Japanese? And Denikin from the Germans? And where did the rest of the generals of the White movement take the soldiers? Of the natives of Australia or what? And Kolchak was engaged in the Arctic long before and long before the civil war. And this war is terrible precisely because any manifestation of humanism is unacceptable there.

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

Formed an army ... From whom? Are they really Japanese? And Denikin from the Germans, and where did the rest of the generals of the White movement take the soldiers? Of the natives of Australia or what?

The question is, with what funds were these armies formed?
More precisely - on whose?
Who supplied these armies?
And for what purpose did the Entente supply them?
And the USA?
Kolchak was sent to England and the United States to prepare the "Dardanelles operation", where he met the October Revolution (in Russian - coup, "revolt" - pere) and was recruited by the British cabinet to organize a civil war.
It was for the sake of the Civil War that he was hired by England and the United States. And representatives of their headquarters and administrations were at his headquarters, and moreover, their word was decisive.
For what ?
The USA wanted to get Siberia and the Far East.
England - southern provinces of RI.
And this calaborant was just their mercenary - a co-worker of the PMC organized by them.
The rest is a performance and a bloody circus for the "local aborigines". The participants in those events, participants in the white movement, officers and generals of Kolchak's army, often did not fully understand this. And the nature of the civil war as such, by its nature, always bears a markedly fierce character. As a participant in such events, I can already confirm this to you.
And no previous merits, no scientific discoveries, participation in the RYaV and WWI and truly outstanding talents, will not absolve him of the guilt for the blood he shed in the fratricidal massacre unleashed by THEM.
It is necessary to clearly realize that the tsar was not at all overthrown by the Bolsheviks, but by the aristocrats and bourgeoisie of the "Provisional Government" (under British leadership), and the Soviets seized power from the bankrupt and ruined Februaryists of the Empire with the help of officers and generals of the General Staff, saving the crumbling and dying Fatherland.
Most of the officers and generals of the General Staff went into the service of the Bolsheviks, seeing in them the only healthy force capable of preserving statehood and overcoming the unrest brought from outside.
Much later, this came to many officers and generals who joined foreign PMCs (white armies).
Many officers of Kolchak's army and headquarters later, after the defeat of their army, remained in Russia, or returned to it, and their children and grandchildren continued to serve the fatherland, becoming officers and generals of the Soviet Army.
I knew quite a few of them. He was friends with someone in childhood, with someone he studied at a military university.
And you need to very clearly understand that if these Entente mercenaries had not started the Civil War, which almost finished off the Russian State, then there would have been no war and "Red Terror". But England, France and the United States (as well as Japan) wanted a civil war in Ingushetia very much. In the hope of taking advantage of its possessions, eliminating a political, military and economic rival, and putting its remnants under your complete control.
The Bolsheviks did not allow this.
But the Bolsheviks, being profane in military affairs and international politics, would not have had time in anything if they had not sided with the flower of the Russian officers in the form of the General Staff.
And with Yudenich's great-grandson, I studied on the same course at a military university.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

I read your opus with pleasure. But there is one caveat - I am in no way justifying Kolchak. I said that he was engaged in polar research long before 1917 Second - the operation in the Dardanelles was in 1915 when Kolchak was not physically on the Black Sea. shed blood .. And only Kolchak shed it? And the Reds did not introduce such a term as "Red Terror"? And with whom did Tukhachevsky fight in the Tambov region? Really with the "Entente hirelings" and blood-drenched Kronstadt? Was the hand of the bourgeois there too? I have said and still say - the most inhuman and ruthless war is a fratricidal war - that is, a civil war. Or do you not agree?

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

And yet - General Yudenich had no children ... What great-grandson of this general did you study with - I can't put my mind to it)))))

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

.What great-grandson are you with?

I studied with Yudenich, he called himself a great-grandson answering the colonel's question during a lecture on the topic "The work of V. I. Lenin" All for the fight against Yudenich "". Outwardly similar. He rose to the rank of lieutenant colonel, lives in Kaliningrad. He was an excellent student, he ran well, but he did not differ in heroic build. They studied in the same company, but the platoons are different. He was modest and quiet, but no one doubted the truth of his origin.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Well, for sure, let's say this - your classmate embellished his pedigree. I make sure that General Yudenich had no heirs.

[bayard]

He did not talk about this at all. Yes, we had a rule then - the sons of generals and big bosses did not tell their comrades about their fathers at all. Such was the upbringing. And those in the know were forbidden to tell. One of my friends of these sons did not talk about his father until graduation; his classmates only learned about his father at the time of graduation. And at the same time, his father and the head of the school (also a general) were longtime friends. The upbringing was different. Do not believe everything that is written in the biographies, General Borodin is also listed as dead even then - soon after the defeat of the headquarters of the Chapayev division. He was then officially buried. Apparently, his companions-in-arms, saving the wounded commander, were so legendary about his death. Perhaps the same was done in the biography of Yudenich - do not forget, it was his former colleagues who worked in the archives at that time. After all, General Khanzhin also returned to the USSR from Manchuria after the Second World War and lived with relatives in Central Asia. And General Kurenkov returned to the USSR after the Second World War ... Yes, many people.
Information about them was closed.
And corrected.
I am familiar with a number of descendants of such officers ... incl. from the headquarters of Kolchak, who made a very serious military career.
Don't believe what you read.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

And I am generally a distrustful person)))) As for the upbringing of that time, I myself am one of those. Judging by your words, we have a lot in common. But for Yudenich, that's for sure. Maybe your classmate was dear to this general - but clearly distant and not direct . The wife of the general was akin to V. Dahl - the same one. Maybe along this line. There are many wonderful things in life - why shouldn't this happen in this case?

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

The general's wife was akin to V. Dahl - the same one.

No, his surname was Yudenich. Well, just from the photo - a clear relationship. Very much like my great-grandfather. I have a book of Yudenich's biography at home, I specially compared photographs. Especially in the cadet years he was similar.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Yudenich is not a very rare surname in Belarus. But as for your classmate - I pointed out that he could be kin to the general - but not direct offspring. It could be a great-cousin or a second-cousin great-grandson. The genealogy of noble families is a whole science, and a rather complex science.

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

I have said and still say - the most inhuman and ruthless war is a fratricidal war - that is, a civil war. Or do you not agree?

I fully agree with this. I myself have been living in such a war for the 8th year.

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

I said that he was engaged in polar research long before 1917

Well, so is the place of memory of this in the Geographical Society, and not as "Admiral Kolchak", but as "Lieutenant Kolchak". And to erect monuments and memorial plaques in public places is to irritate the majority of citizens, because these figures became "famous" and remained in the memory precisely as the executioners of the Russian people.
Tukhachevsky, Trotsky, Yakir remained the same executioners ...
Reconciliation and extinguishing of the enmity of that Civil War did not come easily and took a long time to respond. But many were reconciled by the general Great Patriotic War and the kind of state the Bolsheviks were able to build. Even in exile, former members of the white movement said then that if we knew what state the Bolsheviks wanted to build, we would never rise to fight them.
As an example of a symbol of such reconciliation, I can give an example from my own life ... That was a long time ago.
In the village of my grandfather, in the South Urals, the general of Kolchak's army Borodin lived out his last years (if not the last year). The same commander of the Cossack division who planned and carried out the famous Slashchev raid to defeat the headquarters of the Chapayev division ... Under the general lived his youngest grandson Sashka, a very nimble and splintering kid. He was a year younger than me. And somehow, in the presence of other local boys, he so annoyed me with his teasers and bullying that I grabbed him by his pants and collar and threw him into a ditch with nettles. And it was for us then ... in general, I went to the 3rd grade, and he went to the 2nd. It all looked very amusing and edifying ... but his grandfather was really watching out of the window (he didn't leave the house at that time - he was sick).
In general, the next day Sasha came to me in a cap with a green band and a field bag over his shoulder, my grandfather gave me the same thing and we climbed the local neighborhoods for two weeks and enthusiastically engaged in "military topography" - we drew maps of the area in notebooks ...
It was his grandfather who told him to urgently put up with me and continue to be friends.
During those adventures, Sashka let me know who his grandfather was ... and then my grandfather confirmed it. Only Sashka took my word that I would not tell anyone ...
And then Sashka did not know (and I did not know that then) that he was friends with the grand-nephew of the commander of that same Chapayev division, the deputy of Vasily Ivanovich and his friend, who replaced him in his post after the death of Chapay ... divisional commander Kutyakov (father of my beloved aunt). I myself found out about this much later, when I had already graduated from a military school and came home ... they reminded me "How did you throw Sasha Borodin into nettles" ... well, I asked my grandfather then about Sashkin's grandfather ... and then I heard and about his aunt's father ... Divisional Commander Kutyakov was shot in 1938 by agreement in a Trotskyist conspiracy, his wife perished in the camps, and my daughter Valya ended up in an orphanage, and later married my uncle.
That's how fate sometimes intertwines.
And my grandfather's village was not simple - the ancestral village of the atamans of the Ural and Semirechensky Troops, the direct descendants of Genghis Khan - the Khanzhins (translated as the Hand of the Tsar).
By the way, Kolchak's shock army, which included Borodin's division, was commanded by General Khanzhin.
And by the way, all of Borodin's sons and Sashka's older brothers became Soviet officers.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

You see - we find common points. The history of our long-suffering Fatherland cannot be written either in white or black colors, but it is like that - and there is no other.

[bayard]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

The history of our long-suffering Fatherland cannot be written either in white or black colors, but it is like that - and there is no other.

Quite right. But this is not a reason to drag to the throne and arrange "royal honors" for all crooks.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

And then I agree. The most censorship thing I can say about this action is a balagan. What follows is the "boatswain's" vocabulary.

[Fanur Galiev]

I wedge myself into someone else's dialogue, forgive me for this, but I will throw in a good old, always working example with an Austrian artist. According to the results of WWI, a certain corporal could be considered a real hero of Germany. And he fought in the war, a veteran, he was under a gas attack, he earned the iron cross. Plus hadn't smoked yet and was a vegetarian. Only for some reason we do not evaluate this part of a given person, but what actions he performed in the 30s and 40s. Here, too, should we say that history is not one color?

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

I spoke about the history of the civil war. We judge those events from the point of view of our present being. And in order to understand all the tragedy and horror of the fratricidal war that flared up in Russia a century ago, one would have to be in the "shoes" of the people who lived then. And the example with Schilkgruber is inappropriate here .The mentality is different - not ours. So the story is not the same color. A hero on the battlefield can be a coward in the days of peace. That was also the case.

[NEOZ]

Quote: Fanur Galiev

Oh, I'll throw in the good old,

manipulative technique ...... when the particular is passed off as the general !!!

[mat-vey]

Quote: Fanur Galiev

Only for some reason we do not evaluate this part of this person,

And you can also estimate that the grandfather of the man who is married to him gave money for the development of the party.

[naidas]

Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky

And the civil war is a terrible thing. All participants in this war were not carried away by mercy.

The question is for what? The people made a choice. Since the 90s of the 20th century, there was a revision of the decision of the people of that time.

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Are you sure that it was the people (I repeat - the people) who made the choice?

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

Kolchak has been a British officer since December 1917 ... That is, with arms in hand, as the head of a British PMC, and with the support of the British authorities, he carried out armed resistance to the current legal government for British pounds sterling

Simpler - CONTRA and ....

[zenion]

svp67. Still, Kolchak overtook the Reds. He managed to sell the Far East to the Japanese, and Siberia and the North of Russia to the Americans. The rest sold Ukraine, the Caucasus to everyone who donated weapons. By force, the Bolsheviks managed to blind the former empire in the USSR, of course with the help of the people. The people remembered well the nobles and landowners, they were no longer wanted under any sauce.

[NEOZ]

Quote: zenion

The people remembered well the nobles and landowners, they were no longer wanted under any sauce.

that's why they made everyone beggars ...

Quote: zenion

The rest sold Ukraine, the Caucasus to everyone who donated weapons. By force, the Bolsheviks managed to blind the former empire in the USSR,

remind, who gave Ukraine and the Caucasus in 1991, weren't they communists? ... for jeans and chewing gum ...

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

No need to blame everything on Kolchak. Already in the North, his influence was not - at all. And the sale of Far East and Siberia - how could he sell something when he was sold - for a real piece of gold. The intervention on the part of the Entente countries was completely unrelated to desire or not a desire to sell something. The empire collapsed and these "allies" (I just want to write - Western partners) decided to snatch some sweet pieces from Russia. As well as now they really want to. Nothing has changed since the time of Ivan the Terrible ...

[mat-vey]

Quote: AlexGa

and that the State supported this show and took part in it ?!

How else can a special-purpose part be used?

[stalki]

Not supportive, but neutral. Where do you think there is any inclination in this episode? Guard? So for money now everything is possible. What do you think the authorities were supposed to do, sweep them out with a broom? Did they do something illegal? I personally do not support this masquerade and do not intend to, and I am sure our people are not eager to play this "antics" of pseudo relatives. Do not worry, this is not the first time such attempts. Everyone has already forgotten about it. Nobody needs it.

[Nubia2]

Quote: stalki

Did they do something illegal?

At the very least, they violated the charter.

Quote: stalki

Not supportive, but neutral.

would be neutral (as Sands and you declares, there would be no guard and no police.

Quote: stalki

So for money now everything is possible.

Try it - at least hire a branch for your celebration.

[Siberian54]

Do not touch the police! They are at every noisy gathering like a suitcase without a handle and are inconvenient and dangerous to throw

[NEOZ]

Quote: Nubia2

Try it - at least hire a branch for your celebration.

hahahahahahahah !!!!!!!
if you want, I will arrange a toy war for you on the tank range of the Ministry of Defense with driving tanks that will shoot blank ammunition !!!! there will also be a group of conscripts who will shoot blanks and simulate large-scale hostilities !!!
and if you are lucky with the weather, you will fly over the range at low level flight on a combat MI24 !!!!!!
arrange?

[Most polite]

There would be no military guard of honor of the Armed Forces of the Russian Federation at the wedding

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu brought to disciplinary responsibility officials of the Western Military District, who sent servicemen to the wedding ceremony of a descendant of the Romanov dynasty

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Most polite

Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu brought to disciplinary responsibility officials of the Western Military District, who sent servicemen to the wedding ceremony of a descendant of the Romanov dynasty

I hope to disciplinary responsibility in the form of being kicked out of the RF Armed Forces without pensions, like cheap dogs ...
I wonder how the beginning. fin. part costs will cover ...
"Khalturka" appeared for the military prosecutor's office, "arbitrariness" and "misuse of funds" ....

[NEOZ]

Quote: Tatiana

Andrey Fursov. Who is Maria Vladimirovna Romanova. June 29, 2017.

this character claims that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu leads to homosexuality ...
should you trust him?

[Evil543]

Can they also give them some land? To these monarchs.

[Svarog]

Quote: Evil543

Can they also give them some land? To these monarchs.

And you will not be asked - they will take ... and land and slaves .. While you are looking for enemies, but idolize the power ... everything is arranged quietly ..

[Evil543]

Where am I looking for enemies? Where do I idolize power? Can you tell me? This campaign you recorded me as your enemy.
Shl. I don’t put cons

[Svarog]

Quote: Evil543

Where am I looking for enemies? Where do I idolize power? Can you tell me? This campaign you recorded me as your enemy.

No, I don’t record anyone as an enemy .. just you just recently indicated to me that my link is Ukrainian .. or something like that .. I didn’t begin to understand and argue .. whether it’s Ukrainian or not .. it’s obvious to me that it’s her truth .. but for you the truth is not obvious, so I thought that you are one of those who idolize power ..

[Evil543]

Just followed your link. Then to the main one. Half of the truth is in Ukrainians. I just wrote a statement of facts. And you are ready to put me up against the wall and disinfect my forehead with green paint.

[Svarog]

Quote: Evil543

Just followed your link. Then to the main one. Half of the truth is in Ukrainians. I just wrote a statement of facts. And you are ready to put me up against the wall and disinfect my forehead with green paint.

I don't know, I read everything in Russian, it was .. albeit fluently .. the numbers just turned out to be correct, there was also a table with numbers .. what other Ukrainian language)) I don’t know it at all)) Throw nonsense .. if you even a different opinion .. that you are not an enemy at all, but a person who is mistaken .. perhaps temporarily Perhaps it will pass ...

[Baron pardus]

Not a bad idea, 7 feet of land each. "We will amuse the good citizens, and we will strangle the last priest, the last tsar at the pillory, strangle the last tsar" - A.S. Pushkin
"It's time to start all over again" - resurrected Lenin from an old anecdote.

And if it is serious, then I have a strong impression that your government (and yours?) Has taken a clear course towards self-sawing both your country and the Russians as an ethnos.
"Our ideal is Russia in the times of Nicholas I" - Putin's Press Secretary. I mean, your ideal, rocked two wars + revolution + civil.
Throughout the country, the Russian population is being replaced by "guests from small but distinctive eastern republics", starting at their workplaces.
Some of these guests say "Moscow was not built by the Russians, but by Allah" and for some reason he still has all his teeth, and he is not yet in jail and has not been deported
Education, medicine, pharmacology, machine tool building, industry and science are being destroyed. But "3 churches a day" are being built and there is a colossal fooling of the population.
Crime has merged with business and politics to such an extent that if you dig any "respected person" you will find a gangster and a murderer and a retailer and a drug dealer.

We have our own problems in the USA, some of them are similar - for example, the replacement of the White population, "oppressed but distinctive nat and sex minorities." And if part of the "elites" in our country opposes this, then YOU have the impression that the elites are helping the entropic processes of your country in every possible way.

"It won't end well" - Green "Mystery of the Third Planet". And everything will end either with the genocide of the Russians in particular and the Whites in general, or with a colossal massacre, when everyone will fight against everyone: white against colored, colored against each other (Georgians and Azerbaijanis love each other very much, much like Mexicans and Puerto Ricans). Monarchists versus Liberals versus Communists. And the carnage will be all over the world, with the exception of China, which will be the "Wise Monkey Watching from the Treetop to the Slaughter."

[Corsair]

It is surprising that pseudo-patriots haven’t pecked you up to now, they have all pointed out.

[alystan]

I will add a little information to you from another site:

"Maria Vladimirovna's father, Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, bore the title of SS Obergruppenfuehrer. Until his last days he was in Hitler's bunker, led the troops of the KIAF (Corps of the Imperial Army and Navy) subordinate to him. Just a few days before the Victory he managed to escape to Liechtenstein.
Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, openly supported the Nazis, was close to Adolf Hitler and during the war was at his headquarters, preparing himself for puppet rule after the conquest of the USSR. Publicly called on the Russian emigration and nobles in exile to join the army of the Third Reich and oppose the Soviet troops in the name of the subsequent restoration of the monarchy. He also publicly supported the call of the Finnish General Mannerheim to fight on the side of Nazi Germany. "

And about the company of the guard of honor, a question for those who are in the know: What tasks does the PKK perform, which events are involved in the PKK in terms of importance and significance, and what does the Constitution say about this? It's strange to see the brave sentries on a part-time job or a dancer, don't you understand who's at the wedding ?!

[Alexga]

Just a few days before the Victory, he managed to escape to Liechtenstein.

Historical fact. And Liechtenstein refused to hand him over.

[Alf]

Quote: alystan

I will add a little information to you from another site:

"Maria Vladimirovna's father, Grand Duke Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, bore the title of SS Obergruppenfuehrer. Until his last days he was in Hitler's bunker, led the troops of the KIAF (Corps of the Imperial Army and Navy) subordinate to him. Just a few days before the Victory he managed to escape to Liechtenstein.
Vladimir Kirillovich Romanov, openly supported the Nazis, was close to Adolf Hitler and during the war was at his headquarters, preparing himself for puppet rule after the conquest of the USSR. Publicly called on the Russian emigration and nobles in exile to join the army of the Third Reich and oppose the Soviet troops in the name of the subsequent restoration of the monarchy. He also publicly supported the call of the Finnish General Mannerheim to fight on the side of Nazi Germany. "

And about the company of the guard of honor, a question for those who are in the know: What tasks does the PKK perform, which events are involved in the PKK in terms of importance and significance, and what does the Constitution say about this? It's strange to see the brave sentries on a part-time job or a dancer, don't you understand who's at the wedding ?!

[alystan]

Thank you, the photo is just right, especially about the call "... to contribute as much as possible to the overthrow of the Bolshevik government ..." - this is the "unifying thread" of the current government with the traitors to the Motherland in those terrible war years !?

[Alf]

Quote: alystan

Thank you, the photo is just right, especially about the call "... to contribute as much as possible to the overthrow of the Bolshevik government ..." - this is the "unifying thread" of the current government with the traitors to the Motherland in those terrible war years !?

Not at all.
It seems that the restoration of the monarchy in Russia has reached the home stretch. I feel that soon there will be a massive cheating of the electorate on the topic "how good it will be under the tsar." It is not for nothing that Shoigu recently said about the restoration.

[Baron pardus]

I don't understand Stalin's mercy at all. Are the ice axes over in Russia? How did Joseph Vissarionovich not eliminate this reptile? The decision of the tribunal, in absentia, the tower, well, there are many options further. From ice axes to heart attack to conscientious death by hanging.

[gsev]

Quote: Baron Pardus

How did Joseph Vissarionovich not eliminate this reptile?

And what danger was the relative of the last tsar and the owner of a brothel for the German officers in the occupied Paris compared to the bandit underground in Ukraine and the Baltic states? The Romanovs have degenerated, got dirty in the last war with the Germans and have no chance of a role in Russian society under a normal state. The idiots who attended their last PR party are also disgraced.

[Baron pardus]

And why one should exclude the other. By the way, the Banderaites were not allowed to flow either. "Forgiven" themselves on the head. Well, we got a banderostan. Moreover, the cries of “Ukraine's national cadres" were rejoicing back in the early 80s. ”Iosif Vissarionovich was soft, oh soft was both with Bandera and with the Balts and with Vlasov. “or“ she knew, disapproved, but stayed with him for love. ”This does not happen.

[Corsair]

He was tired of blood, Beria suggested that a lot of people be pulled up or deported to the ends because he foresaw the danger in this, but Stalin slowed him down, and after the war the country had to be rebuilt.
And Khrushchev, as a collective farmer, remained, and even distributed land without brains.

[Storog dvornik]

Putin openly quotes Ilyin who publicly admired Hitler and the NSDAP, considering them a continuation of the ideas of the White Guard movement ...
Who does not know, Hitler had the concept of solidarity between the worker and the bourgeois, that is, one patriotism, and the oligarch Abramovich in London, and the beggar, a loaned pensioner in Uryupensk ...
In short, the muzzles have already been put on, we are waiting for the saddle and the stall ...

[Baron pardus]

Let me remind you, I remember very well how in the late 80s and early 90s you were skakuas, exactly like skakuas in a banderostan. The difference was zero. They screamed for "Freedom, Democracy", "Down with the dictatorship of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union." I remember how you squealed with delight because of the "vouchers" (by the way, as there, you got rich on vouchers. " this country does not know how "

Now you are indignant at what is happening. But everything is absolutely natural. All of you, at least most of you, listened to "Voice of America", "Seva Novgorodtseva, City of London BBC", whispered more or less loudly in the kitchens "Drive the commies out and live," "Does this regime appreciate us?" "Is this life?" "The bloody shit keeps us all in slavery." I listened to it. We have all the moves recorded. You guys will forgive me, but you got what you wanted - capitalism. What? Did you think that capitalism is good and he is von kaakoy plaahoy? Do you remember that you were warned? For example, such as my grandfather and grandmothers. Do you remember how you yelled at them "Derzhimorda", "Stalin's Wolf"?

You were trite. Like the Papuans in the 18th century. They sold everything that was for beads and drank it. Exactly as my grandfather predicted to you. The difference is that you turned out to be dumber than the Papuans. You were warned, you were taught the economic theory of Marx and Lenin, which is ABSOLUTELY confirmed, on your own skins. But you DON'T WANT to listen. You only wanted to hear what you wanted to hear, and then in droves they charged the cans with Kashperovsky water on TV. And this is after receiving a SOVIET education and being trained in dialectical materialism and critical thinking.

Forgive me, but in relation to both Russia and Ukraine, and indeed all the former Soviet republics except Belarus (thanks to Lukashenko), one can say "What we fought for, we ran into it. The award has found heroes."

[alystan]

I will only add that under Karimov, Uzbekistan was almost like Belarus, only with their inherent and early national and economic characteristics.

[Baron pardus]

You are absolutely right. I completely forgot about the respected Karimov.

[lynnot]

MOSCOW, October 6 - RIA Novosti. Russian Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu brought to disciplinary responsibility officials of the Western Military District, who sent servicemen to the wedding ceremony of a descendant of the Romanov dynasty last Friday, a source in the military department told RIA Novosti.
"The Minister of Defense of the Russian Federation Shoigu brought to disciplinary responsibility officials of the Western Military District, who made decisions on the allocation of military personnel of the commandant's unit for a private event (marriage), which took place in St. Isaac's Cathedral in St. Petersburg," the agency's source said.
"On this fact, an official investigation was conducted, as a result of which violations by individual officials of the requirements of the governing documents were established. The involvement of servicemen of the guard of honor in the events is regulated by the normative legal acts of the Ministry of Defense," the source explained. https://ria.ru/20211006/venchanie-1753345429.html

[zenion]

Still, for this power, this prince was much closer than the Soviet one. For this power, the prince was like a shirt, or they were a shirt for him, so they intertwined.

[Ryazan87]

"The West promised to recognize it as a legitimate empress" - who, when this petty fraudster was recognized by someone or promised to do it? I want to write all sorts of nonsense to you.
As for passports .. that is, the same scammers who issue (sell) "passports" and "driver's licenses" of the USSR. There are also a number of idiots who buy them.
So what? Xi Jinping is sponsoring something ..

[Alf]

Quote: Ryazanets87

that is, the same swindlers who issue (sell) "passports" and "driver's licenses" of the USSR.

These are not scammers, the USSR passport is now legally valid document. There have already been many cases when people presented this passport in the form of a document, police officials puffed up, resisted, but when they were called articles from the Constitution they silently accepted it for use.

[Ryazan87]

A passport of a citizen of the USSR, issued up to and including 1991, was a completely legitimate identity document. In the event that a non-citizen did not consider it necessary to exchange it to the present, it can be used, under certain conditions, as an identity document (if the owner turned 45 before the collapse of the USSR).
The constitution here is decidedly incomprehensible why it was worn out, here the position of the Supreme Court of the Russian Federation is rather important. Now it is more of a legal curiosity that will disappear for natural reasons.
I meant some figures who issue "passports" to the "USSR" right now. For quite real Russian rubles. You can easily find the links yourself - there the Hare Krishnas nervously smoke on the sidelines.

[Alf]

Quote: Ryazanets87

A passport of a citizen of the USSR, issued up to and including 1991, was a completely legitimate identity document. In the event that a non-citizen did not consider it necessary to exchange it to the present, it can be used, under certain conditions, as an identity document (if the owner turned 45 before the collapse of the USSR).

Absolutely agree with you.

Quote: Ryazanets87

The constitution here is decidedly incomprehensible why it was worn out.

Again. A person presents a USSR passport, issued before 91, as a legally valid document. All sorts of bureaucrats-policemen claim that it is invalid, but after quotations from the Constitution they accept it.

Quote: Ryazanets87

I meant some figures who issue "passports" to the "USSR" right now.

In this case, I will not say anything, you are right.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tatiana

Wait for Russia of Troubles!

“It is also important to note that the mighty of this world took the wedding of Georgy Romanov very seriously. The wedding took place in St. Isaac's Cathedral in the presence of more than a thousand guests, the sacrament was conducted by the Metropolitan of St. Petersburg and Ladoga Varsonofy, and at the exit from the temple the newlyweds were greeted by a company of the guard of honor . All this cannot be organized simply for money, it requires the consent of the representatives of the state authorities. " JV Andrey Ivanov.

[zenion]

One Romanov was in St. Petersburg, another Romanov was the first secretary of Moscow, these are the kuleches.

[Reptiloid]

Good afternoon, dear Tatyana! After all, she (Maria Hohenzollern) presented our leadership with an "icon" with her dad in a fascist uniform, and a grandfather, a friend of Hitler. Not only did our people accept it, but also the Patriarch, together with the Chairman of the Government of the Russian Federation, presented the New Jerusalem Museum! Moreover, two Germans and Maria are depicted above Nicholas II (???) It's like. But it was Nicholas II who deprived this branch of the throne's legacy!
A new history of Russia is being created. Where Gorbachev and Yeltsin are remembered with good words. Where are the walls of wailing. Where is the monument to Solzhenitsyn ... And now this is it.

[Baron pardus]

The problem is not that this fatty gave her dad's daub in Natsik uniform. The problem is that yours ACCEPTED this icon and did not put it on its head before lowering it down the stairs, which would be correct. Do you think that the Chinese Communist Party did not notice this? I noticed. Therefore, you will not see a military alliance with China as your ears. And that's why China looks at you with contempt, only you don't understand it. Betraying a Master or Parent is the greatest sin in both China and Japan.
The fact that your leadership accepted this daub means only one thing - they either "forgot" about the "Ost" General Plan or support it. And the fact that you continue to elect them means the same thing. I remind you. There is only one difference in the eyes of the Nazis between a Jew and a Russian. Some were to be cleaned first and 100%, others, secondly and 50%, and the rest were turned into slaves. You FORGOT it. Well, the choice is yours. Those who have forgotten history are doomed to repeat it.

[Reptiloid]

Are you? What is your meaning? That’s why I wrote it because it’s disgusting to me. Who accepted? Management. You can name who was - there is a photo. And it's not a shame.
For what? Fake letters?
Where do you live yourself.?

[Baron pardus]

If you read carefully, I said "YOUR Leadership" (although your elite is NOT YOURS for a long time). The second part is "you", I was referring to those who think that China will sign for Russia. Do not subscribe.
Where I live? IN THE USA. Immediately I say I left in September 91. Wise grandfather (fools are not lieutenant colonels of border troops), said "Khan is here, they will plunder everything, sell, drink, but what they cannot, they will dirtiest. We cannot live without Stalin. It's bad without him. Ticking nada, there will never be any sense here. ". Here we got away. They wanted to stay in Austria or Italy (my whole family except me speaks German, they taught German in schools, and some of them also in universities). But it didn't work out.

[Reptiloid]

And I don't think China will sign. Because the ambiguity is visible in everything. At least take a look at the monuments of new Russia. But maybe on the way with China, for a while. I think you shouldn't give up on such a fellow traveler.

[Baron pardus]

Although I live in the United States, I read books written in Russia, both on the Internet and what I buy. So there was a series of books "Holm Van Zaichik" about the country of Ordus - China, Russia and Mongolia united into one country. An excellent series, a combination of a deliberately kind and naive utopia and the most brutal banter (for example, "The Case of Non-Zalezhny Dervishes"). I think that when the capitalists destroy Russia (and they will destroy it), then those Russians who will live on the lands where China will come (and he will come) will be in order. Unlike Russians who will live ladies where Muslims will come, or "tolerasts, lovers of 50 sex orientations" from Europe, and even more so from the United States, I personally saw how we, Americans, behave where we go. Let's just say - EVERYTHING that Mark Twain said about Americans is true, only we are even worse.

[Reptiloid]

Yes, there are mock lovers. To each his own. But I live here and work with people .... somehow it’s not up to large-scale. So, jokes on little things

[Victor Tsenin]

So it was not the tsar who met the opinion that this is Goga Mukhosra *, and Goga Mukhosky cannot be tsar)

[Corsair]

this is already sung at every United Russia congress, and some for no reason at all.

[gsev]

During the Great Patriotic War, a verse was composed about the claims of the descendants of the Romanovs to the throne in Russia.
"In the German wagon train, excitement is not in vain -
The Nazis are taking the tsar for Russia! ..
He sits rocking on a skinny horse
And he sees himself drunk in Moscow - in a dream ...

The courtiers immediately weave the ranks:
They have all been given the "ministries" long ago ...
Behind them, sitting on the edge of the tractor,
The policeman is in a hurry, "Heil Hitler!" screaming ...

And next to it is a spy dressed in the Gestapo:
He wants to devour and plunder, and he ...
A little further - a company of close friends
(Which we handed over to the museum a long time ago ...)

A breeder, a landowner and two kulaks -
German and Russian are like two boots ...
And at the very end, like a ragged tail,
Either a manufacturer, or just a scoundrel ...

And wants all this sold-out rabble
Turn our Soviet people into slaves
And rule our free land
How the fascists rule: with a whip and a noose ...

Well! We made a "hot" welcome:
Iron and steel, lead and fire ...
So friendly we meet uninvited guests,
That they cannot collect either heads or bones ...
And we will measure out our land for them,
So that all enemies without a trace lie in it! .. "

[gsev]

[quote] [/ quote] It remains only for ALL to sing: "God Save the Tsar"
The Nazis are taking the tsar for Russia! ..
He sits rocking on a skinny horse
And he sees himself drunk in Moscow - in a dream ...

The courtiers immediately weave the ranks:
They have all been given the "ministries" long ago ...
Behind them, sitting on the edge of the tractor,
The policeman is in a hurry, "Heil Hitler!" screaming ...

And next to it is a spy dressed in the Gestapo:
He wants to devour and plunder, and he ...
A little further - a company of close friends
(Which we handed over to the museum a long time ago ...)

A breeder, a landowner and two kulaks -
German and Russian are like two boots ...
And at the very end, like a ragged tail,
Either a manufacturer, or just a scoundrel ...

And wants all this sold-out rabble
Turn our Soviet people into slaves
And rule our free land
How the fascists rule: with a whip and a noose ...

Well! We made a "hot" welcome:
Iron and steel, lead and fire ...
So friendly we meet uninvited guests,
That they cannot collect either heads or bones ...
And we will measure out our land for them,
So that all enemies without a trace lie in it !. ".

[mat-vey]

Quote: Uncle Lee

It remains only for ALL to sing: "God Save the Tsar" ....

Well, here and "Cara al sol" is quite suitable ... Tsarevich Gosha cooperates with their descendants ... however, this is a family one ..

[NDR-791]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

The horse-drawn circus is going on. A descendant of the out-of-phase Cyril decided to check in. I don’t know what his parents sang to him at one time, but according to all the laws of succession to the throne, Kirillushka could not be the Russian Tsar (he proclaimed himself completely in 1924). In short, the brow has a "late ignition".

[Sling cutter]

Quote: NDR-791

The horse-drawn circus is going on. A descendant of the out-of-phase Cyril decided to check in. I don’t know what his parents sang to him at one time, but according to all the laws of succession to the throne, Kirillushka could not be the Russian Tsar (he proclaimed himself completely in 1924). In short, the brow has a "late ignition".

Why circus? It is quite a "decent" action in the clan-tribal Newfeudal Russia.
And why not give the "grand duke" ex. title to the president (the patrushevs are already "nobles"), then to appoint the regent, and then to anoint the kingdom.
There will be no obstacles on the part of the ROC, the "progressive" public will also support and finally come true the centuries-old dream of the Russian people about a new "good", clever and great tsar-father.
In general, rejoice Imperials selling your balls, time has moved back! [Media = b1b8a3ded8865bef007ea7ccfba10296871b31fbb8d4xWEBx7517x1633430259]

[Baron pardus]

In kings you need to have Frederick the Great or others like him. Otherwise, the complete garbage turns out. And those in "Young democracy with a 30-year history ... where before the advent of Orthodoxy lived creatures only slightly different from animals" there are none. (by the way, the quotations are not mine, the beginning of the quotation is the words of Nedimon, the second part of the quotation is the words of Ayatolla Gundyaev, the chairman of the ROC CJSC).

[Baloo]

The next step is the recognition by quasi-states such as Tribalts and Banderia, and then a campaign will begin to squeeze out the Kremlin.

[Alf]

Quote: NDR-791

In short, the brow has a "late ignition".

Which didn't happen by itself.
1. There was someone who started it and he doesn't advertise himself much.
2. There was someone who agreed to this in Russia.

[zenion]

All who have the surname Romanov are Romanovs. Some are even untouchable. Some even have variable surnames, but in the touch are novels.

[Baron pardus]

They cannot attract a company of the guard of honor without Putin knowing about it, and the command not approving. I doubt very much that such a company commander of the guard of honor comes "Rota, to the Rifle, we are going to the wedding of two fat impostors, but this is a secret, no one except you and me knows." A big shot from the Russian Orthodox Church CJSC cannot participate in the ceremony without his superiors knowing about it and APPROVING it. This is the same as the monument to Mannerheim. Checking people whether they go for it or not. If people don’t shavaet - then "express concern" and chide a couple of low-ranking performers, no more.
Don't be naive. Neither the Company of the Guard of Honor, nor the bump from ZAO ROC will do nicherta without the CONSENT of their superiors. Who's commanding the Guard of Honor in our company? Who is his boss? Don't be naive. Everyone at the top knew everything and agreed to everything.

[Alien From]

This is a circus on the road!) Don't take it lightly.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

another "king" Kiryukha

[Alien From]

Exactly, exactly! Just right to shoot a comedy, updated "Elusive")

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

another "king" Kiryukha

Rather, "the son of Lieutenant Schmidt".

[tank64rus]

Bravo. It turns out there were prophets in our Fatherland. Why didn't the newlyweds order a fight?

[Alf]

Quote: tank64rus

Why didn't the newlyweds order a fight?

A truly Russian custom, no wedding is complete without a fight. And in this case, either the wedding is not real, or not Russian ...

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alf

A truly Russian custom, no wedding is complete without a fight. And in this case, either the wedding is not real, or not Russian ..

We had, for two weeks, the stakes were soaked before the wedding.

[Alf]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: Alf

A truly Russian custom, no wedding is complete without a fight. And in this case, either the wedding is not real, or not Russian ..

We had, for two weeks, the stakes were soaked before the wedding.

Well, how are you doing, who won? I hope the groom was not done? Otherwise, he would not be useful for night feats.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alf

Well, how are you doing, who won? I hope the groom was not done? Otherwise, he would not be useful for night feats.

Well, everyone there fell for it, that's why the wedding. They fought not out of malice, but cool.

[Alf]

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, everyone got there,

I can imagine this massacre ... By the way, were you there? Did you take part? I hope, as a groom, all in a row, indiscriminately?

[Alf]

Quote: Alf

Quote: tihonmarine

Well, everyone got there,

I can imagine this massacre ... By the way, were you there? Did you take part? I hope, as a groom, all in a row, indiscriminately?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alf

I can imagine this massacre ... By the way, were you there? Did you take part?

Chita province, the beginning of the 60s, then this happened, but I was not yet 17 years old, so we were simply not allowed to such "pleasures" as youngsters.

[Alf]

Quote: tihonmarine

we youngsters were simply not allowed to such "pleasures".

Youngsters of the fallen were dragged out of the "battlefield"?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alf

Youngsters of the fallen were dragged out of the "battlefield"?

Not like always, youngsters and wives.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tank64rus

. It turns out there were prophets in our Fatherland. Why didn't the newlyweds order a fight?

The oversight turned out to be in their "royal family", as it is not in Russian without a fight.

[Alf]

Quote: tihonmarine

Quote: tank64rus

. It turns out there were prophets in our Fatherland. Why didn't the newlyweds order a fight?

The oversight turned out to be in their "royal family", as it is not in Russian without a fight.

This means that either the kings are not the same, or even from a distance it does not smell of Russianness.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alf

This means that either the kings are not the same, or even from a distance it does not smell of Russianness.

Something Western rotten stuff carries, and even those who most destroyed the Romanov family.

[zenion]

The one with the beard and mustache, of course, is real, this is the well-known Louis of All Russia.

[Gardamir]

Don't take it lightly.

And someone took it seriously when the RSFSR adopted a declaration of sovereignty, and after a year and a half the country was gone.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Alien From

This is a circus on the road!) Don't take it lightly.

We do not take it seriously, but who invented it, they hope for success ...
The ceremony was attended, for example, by Queen Sofia of Spain, Princess Lea of ​​Belgium, Emir of Qatar Sheikh Hamad bin Khalifa Al Thani, representatives of many royal families of Europe and Asia. then we do not accept, but this is all thought out and played out. But some of our "democrats" also noted Including representatives of Russian business circles and politicians. The video with Georgy Romanov was also posted by Elizaveta Peskova,
In the West, in states, power is inherited along with the institutions of property. The Morgan and Rockefellers transfer to their descendants not only property, but power together with governors and presidents, deputies through election campaigns. Here they have real power.

[Terenin]

Quote: Alien From

This is a circus on the road!) Don't take it lightly.

Yes And all

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

What are you talking about? Hope that Lukashenka's son walks around the city with a gun? At the age of 15? This should be more interesting for the inhabitants of Belarus.
Each hut has its own toys ...

There can be NO questions about the release of a commemorative medal on the occasion of the wedding.

Yes, it cannot, since it is NOT STATE and one should generally read its statute, and according to it, it was issued specifically for the relatives and guests invited to the celebration.
It was released by a private company - LLC Volgo-Vyatsky Mint, located in the city of Kirov. According to the company's website, the Volgo-Vyatka Mint is the first and only private mint in the Russian Federation that meets international standards.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

why shouldn't a boy with a gun take a walk?

[Pilat2009]

Quote: svp67

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

What are you talking about? Hope that Lukashenka's son walks around the city with a gun? At the age of 15?

There can be NO questions about the release of a commemorative medal on the occasion of the wedding.

Yes, it cannot, since it is NOT STATE and one should generally read its statute, and according to it, it was issued specifically for the relatives and guests invited to the celebration.
It was released by a private company - LLC Volgo-Vyatsky Mint, located in the city of Kirov. According to the company's website, the Volgo-Vyatka Mint is the first and only private mint in the Russian Federation that meets international standards.

As for the medal, it cannot, but as for the police, is it a private structure that provides services for money, that is, they were removed from the protection of public order?

[svp67]

Quote: Pilat2009

As for the medal, it cannot, but as for the police, is it a private structure that provides services for money, that is, they were removed from the protection of public order?

You know, it's worth sorting out the same thing ... there should have been a lot of people, there were supposed to be 600 people to be awarded, one per family, but how many onlookers, but what about the press? This already looks like a whole mass event, so the police are LEGAL there, because no one is surprised by their presence at rallies, various concerts and competitions.

[2 Level Advisor]

and why are they not at the weddings of other citizens - recently I was in Armenian - there were 300 people and not a single policeman, not a guard of honor of military personnel .. how so? And by what right does she carry the coat of arms of Russia on her dress across the floor?

[svp67]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

why are they not at the weddings of other citizens

They didn't fit in the photo ...

[svp67]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

And by what right does she carry the coat of arms of Russia on her dress across the floor?

Hmm, this is a problem ... people will buy a T-shirt, and then they will be afraid to put it in the wrong place ...

[2 Level Advisor]

those. In your opinion, dragging a state symbol on the floor is the same as wearing a T-shirt? and the guard of honor for the state account, and the police for the state account .. not to mention the lack of masks at the event in the presence of the police, this is so .. mischief and little things .. let the "king" get married .. he can do anything? laws of the Russian Federation - below it?

[svp67]

Quote: Level 2 Advisor

those. In your opinion, dragging a state symbol on the floor is the same as wearing a T-shirt?

You are not good at heraldry

The state emblem of the Russian Federation is a quadrangular, with rounded lower corners, a red heraldic shield pointed at the tip with a golden double-headed eagle that raised its spread wings.

As well as those people who sewed this eagle on the train ... By the way, according to the regulations, the train MUST wear pages, just so that it does not drag on the floor. And what is on the photo raises many questions, but this is definitely not the coat of arms of the Russian Federation

[Alexga]

Let me tell you, colleague, a secret. In Belarus there is such a tradition that if there is a threat to the state, then 15-year-old boys take up arms, and if the need arises, they undermine themselves and their enemies with the last grenade. This is an example of the Hero of the Soviet Union and Marat Kazei. He was 15 years old. So your sarcasm is somehow not very good in this case.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

if there is a threat to the state, then 15-year-old boys take up arms, and if the need arises, they undermine themselves and their enemies with the last grenade.

Ah ... Seriously. Apparently I missed something, whose tanks were you on the way to Minsk? Who was this boy going to kill?
Do not confuse external aggression and civil war a little. There are no heroes in the latter, except maybe the one who can stop this bloodshed

[Alexga]

Ah ... Seriously ....

Ah ... Seriously. Well, look at the country south of Belarus. There were no tanks either.
Colleague, let's not continue. You have your own view of the world, I have mine. And these crazy crowds with big flags and chants ran not under your windows, but under mine. And this public is asking for sanctions on Belarus to the detriment of me, not you. Therefore, when the son of the President holds a weapon in his hands and is ready to defend his country, it is normal.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

There were no tanks either.

How it was NOT? Tanks of the Armed Forces of Ukraine took part and are participating in that civil war.

Quote: AlexGa

Therefore, when the son of the President holds a weapon in his hands and is ready to defend his country, it is normal.

Alas, in the civil war, he was preparing to defend not his country, but a kind of power ...

[Alexga]

How it was NOT?

Have you already been to the Maidan?

he was preparing to defend not his country, but the power of a kind ...

Why only a kind, and that part of the population that elected his father as President of the Republic of Belarus.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

Have you already been to the Maidan?

Well, there were armored personnel carriers, not tanks, but for urban battles, quite armored vehicles

Quote: AlexGa

Why only a kind, and that part of the population that elected his father as President of the Republic of Belarus.

And yet it does not mean the entire population, but its parts. But in this case, this boy is not even aged to go to the polls, and even more so to hold military weapons in his hands.

[svp67]

Quote: AlexGa

Have you already been to the Maidan?

Well, there were armored personnel carriers, not tanks, but for urban battles, quite armored vehicles

Quote: AlexGa

Why only a kind, and that part of the population that elected his father as President of the Republic of Belarus.

And yet it does not mean the entire population, but its parts. But in this case, this boy is not even in the age to go to the polls, and even more so to hold military weapons in his hands. And how would you react if the Leaders of the opposite side took 15-year-old armed children with them?

[Sling cutter]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

This is developed Eboputinism in full glory.

[Svarog]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

Yes, everything is simple .. this is the beginning of neo-feudalism .. the king ... the supreme ruler .. the governors-feudal lords .. Such a scenario is drawn. We found somewhere a clown who can't speak Russian either .. and slowly began to introduce him into circulation.

[Peak]

People in uniform and reports from federal channels: public confusion from the wedding of the "descendant of the Romanov dynasty"

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

In the Western Military District, the military commander's office launched an official investigation into the participation of a company of the guard of honor in the church wedding ceremony of Georgy Romanov and Rebecca (Victoria) Bettarini, which took place on October 1 at St. Isaac's Cathedral in St. Petersburg.

At the same time, it is interesting that the military commandant of the city, Colonel Ramil Volkov, is currently on vacation outside St. Petersburg. .

[Alf]

Quote: PiK

in connection with the participation of the company of the guard of honor in the church wedding ceremony

Indeed, according to the Decree of the President of the Russian Federation of November 10.11.2007, 1495 No. 12.07.2021 (as amended on July XNUMX, XNUMX):

374. A guard of honor may be appointed:
for meeting and seeing off the President of the Russian Federation, representatives of foreign states during ceremonial events of national importance and during inspections (checks) of troops;
when laying wreaths (garlands, baskets of flowers, flowers) at the opening of state monuments;
to the State Flag of the Russian Federation, the Battle Banner (Naval Flag), brought to the ceremonial meetings;
during the burial of persons specified in Article 381 of this Charter.

It looks like a private enterprise, but the state's strange interest in it is alarming.

[fa2998]

Corruption!

[Storog dvornik]

In the 90s, there were "new Russians" in crimson jackets and half-kilogram chains on bull necks ...
They were small by little to "zero" shot ...
The current "new nobles" are the masters of life, who raised children with a similar mentality ...
By the way, the concept of a nobleman, it means at the owner's YARD, that is, a servant \ Chaldean ...
In Europe, for example, there were honorary nobles - lords, earls, who had exclusive rights to load a crossbow, or pour wine, or take out a chamber pot of shit for the overlord ...
The current Russian bourgeoisie, just having unmeasured dough is already not enough, I want recognition and honor ... Such in the Western elite are called - nouveau riche ...
The European elite (the old crooks) - Spain, Italy, France are upset with the cattle - the British elite in the person of Baba Lisa # 2 ... the British are upset with the cattle - the Kennedy mattress elite, the Bushes ... these are making fun of Obama and Trump ... and all together on a ferry piss over Putin's mosquito, including the Maltese knight (!) Minister of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation without specialized education, designer of uniforms and insignia S.K. Shoigu ...
I want a cattle to become a reigning person ... From rags to riches ...
Like a classic - Color differentiation of pants ...

[Zhan]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

This is called that someone decided to revive the monarchy in Russia. Not only were our tsars related to the Germans, the British, and then the Italians nailed down. I certainly wish the newlyweds happiness. But damn it somehow strained. It is necessary to drive in three necks from the Russian land pseudo monarchs.

[210ox]

This bullshit has been going on since 1991 ... Did you just notice ...

[NEOZ]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

we have a free country! and everyone walks at his wedding as he wants !!!

[tank66]

the overtone window was slightly opened - and suddenly it will fail

[tihonmarine]

Quote: tank66

the overtone window was slightly opened - and suddenly it will fail

True remark.

[Woodman]

If it hadn't been for VO, I wouldn't have heard about this wedding ...

, a strange "guard of honor", in respect of which the question has not yet been clarified: these are real military personnel or representatives of "creative teams" dressed in military uniform.

And in the Moscow region, no one tried to ask? I think they know for sure.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

everywhere they wrote about him

[Woodman]

Chesslovo, I hear it for the first time. Dropped out, say, from the information field.

The history exams are in progress. There is one student left, the last one.
A professor approaches him.
- What is your question?
- The Great Patriotic War.
- When did it start? - I do not know.
- When did it end? - I do not know.
- Who won the war? - I do not know.
- Where are you from? - From Pindoshin.
- Eh, I wish I could give up everything and go to Pindoshino!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

it is belatedly posted here, on October 1 this booth took place

[Woodman]

Yes, to tell the truth, I would never have been upset if I hadn't found out about it at all. But, I think, in this case it is not VO's fault. It was Semin who pulled the cat for the Faberge for a long time.

[Alf]

Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir

it is belatedly posted here, on October 1 this booth took place

Why is it too late? While the news has passed, while the person is ripe for writing the article, while he has polished it, and the main work and home-family have not yet been canceled, while the moderators have read and approved the article, then the time has run out.

[Xlor]

The history exams are in progress. There is one student left, the last one.
A professor approaches him.
- What is your question?
- The Great Patriotic War.
- When did it start? - I do not know.
- When did it end? - I do not know.
- Who won the war? - I do not know.
- Where are you from? - From Pindoshin.
- Eh, I wish I could give up everything and go to Pindoshino!

Have fun!

[svp67]

Quote: Lesovik

And in the Moscow region, no one tried to ask? I think they know for sure.

An official investigation is being conducted there, on this occasion, according to the message of the Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated 03.10.2021

[Woodman]

Quote: svp67

An official investigation is being carried out there now.

Thanks for the info.

[Bogalex]

In the photographs from the clowning, people in military uniforms of the established pattern with insignia for belonging to the Western Military District are clearly distinguishable. If these are "mummers", then there is a reason for bringing these citizens to justice for illegal wearing of military uniforms. And if not, then for very specific questions to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the command of the Western Military District about the validity of the presence of the official delegation of the Ministry of Defense at this event.

[Peak]

Quote: Bogalex

In the photographs from the clowning, people in military uniforms of the established pattern with insignia for belonging to the Western Military District are clearly distinguishable. If these are "mummers", then there is a reason for bringing these citizens to justice for illegal wearing of military uniforms. And if not, then for very specific questions to the leadership of the Ministry of Defense and the command of the Western Military District about the validity of the presence of the official delegation of the Ministry of Defense at this event.

Unfortunately, not mummers
And the military commandant's office of the Western Military District began its internal investigation (it is not clear why not the military prosecutor's office ) ...

[Alf]

Quote: PiK

(it is not clear why not the military prosecutor's office) ...

We decided not to take dirty linen out of public.

[Peak]

Quote: Alf

We decided not to take dirty linen out of public.

Is it possible in this case? Still in sight

[Alf]

Quote: PiK

Quote: Alf

We decided not to take dirty linen out of public.

Is it possible in this case? Still in sight

Quite possible. A trifle "below" is pulled publicly, but those who gave the orders "will not be found."

[DenVB]

Quote: Bogalex

If these are "mummers", then there is a reason for bringing these citizens to justice for illegal wearing of military uniforms.

Yes. Considering that Marina Wolf was recently given 10 days for shooting in uniform. And here it is not just private shooting, but a mass event in the center of St. Petersburg.

[Gardamir]

Nobody tried to ask in MO?

silent as partisans.

[your1970]

Quote: Gardamir

Nobody tried to ask in MO?

silent as partisans.

Quote: svp67

An official investigation is being conducted there, on this occasion, according to the message of the Press Service of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation dated 03.10.2021

[Alf]

Quote: Lesovik

If it hadn't been for VO, I wouldn't have heard about this wedding ...

, a strange "guard of honor", in respect of which the question has not yet been clarified: these are real military personnel or representatives of "creative teams" dressed in military uniform.

And in the Moscow region, no one tried to ask? I think they know for sure.

And you try, maybe they will answer you ...

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

***
"But the king is not real!" ...
***

[Cowbra]

Orthodox faith, autocratic sweetness) And matzo is so)

[Silver bullet]

This is a false start

[Petrik66]

Why are our military saluting somehow ........ Have they gone crazy? What nonsense, what Romanovs?

[bk316]

Why are our military saluting somehow

And why did you decide that these are ours and that the military in general?
Never seen a reconstruction?

[Petrik66]

In the Western Military District, an official investigation has begun in connection with the participation of a company of the guard of honor in the church wedding ceremony of Georgy Romanov and Rebecca (Victoria) Bettarini, which took place on October 1 at St. Isaac's Cathedral in St. Petersburg. IA REGNUM was informed about this on October 4 in the press service of the Western Military District.

Perhaps you are right, I really want it to be so !!!!

[bk316]

Perhaps you are right, I really want it to be so !!!!

If it doesn't. The use of official position for personal purposes is evident. Someone needs to be driven out of the army. Or, maybe, plant, here the question is in the amount of remuneration.

[Alf]

Quote: bk316

Why are our military saluting somehow

And why did you decide that these are ours and that the military in general?
Never seen a reconstruction?

Are the reenactors typing this step too?

[Gardamir]

What nonsense, what Romanovs?

Remember Nicholas number two, he made the tricolor flag the state one. We are now living under this flag. So do not run out and shout God Save the Tsar.

[gsev]

Quote: Gardamir

Remember Nicholas number two, he made the tricolor flag the state one. We are now living under this flag.

For the first time openly demonstrated the tricolor at a mass event in the USSR, a member of the NTS party. You can consider the initiators of the adoption of the tricolor as a state symbol instead of the banner hoisted over Reistag, Port Arthur and Sakhalin anti-communists from the NTS, you can CIA officers. In the first case, these are the heirs of the volunteer assistants and translators of the Abwehr and the SS Sonndnrkamand, in the second case, they are simply subordinates of the officers of the special services rival with the USSR and Russia. It's like in France, after the overthrow of Napoleon, Talleyrand hired fifty crooks to praise the Bourbons, which led, in conditions of confusion and vacuum of power, to the coming to power of those who had forgotten nothing and had not learned anything. In Principle, 15 years later, the odious Bourbons were removed and France began to revive. But not actively and skillfully enough. We are now seeing a similar thing in Russia.

[Storog dvornik]

"Our" soldiers were in the USSR Armed Forces, as they defended the people's power and people's property ...
The military of the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, as in any bourgeois country, protect the loot and property of the bourgeoisie and officials - "capitalist ministers", and therefore salute for the loot, whoever they say ...

[gsev]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

"Our" soldiers were in the USSR Armed Forces

The military in the USSR also suppressed peasant uprisings. For example, M. Kazei's parents were repressed in the 1930s. His father was rehabilitated only in 1959. However, resentment against the authorities or injustice should not interfere with the protection of the independence of their state and people in front of an external mortal enemy.

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

I was also surprised by the "honor" guard in uniform

[Cowbra]

Emperor Romalov

[bihola]

this is the move of the Anglo-Saxons.

[Nikolaevich I]

And what? Is it really boo? ... and in our country? (I didn’t know, I didn’t see! ) But I think this is schizophrenic attacks among representatives of the ruling regime!

[Vasilenko Vladimir]

On October 1, this action (God forgive me) happened

[ODERVIT]

In the city on the Neva, this show was of little significance, unnoticed.
Kazan Cathedral? Perhaps businessmen in robes were offered money?

[IgorIP]

Quote: ODERVIT

In the city on the Neva, this show was of little significance, unnoticed.
Kazan Cathedral? Perhaps businessmen in robes were offered money?

Not in Kazan, but in St. Isaac's ... It's still not on Nevsky. It's easier to organize the mummers there.
Actually, why is there such a fuss?) The ROC is a purely commercial organization. The first thing in every church is the price)) pay money, get married. Finding the mummers is not a problem either. The police are also a semi-commercial organization. For money they will be able to organize any escort)

[ODERVIT]

Yes, I agree, I was wrong.
And Isaakievsky, indeed, is closer to the headquarters of the Western Military District.

[Eug]

All this would be funny if it were not so sad ..
In reality, it is ridiculous to look at these pompous faces, downright inflated by the realization of their own pseudo-significance ... it is sad because some of the top powers that be indulges this farce ...

[tech3030]

pulls from this action!

[tech3030]

Wrote tosh-nit so there is no moderators and tried here!

[Waterways 672]

Quote: Eug

pompous faces, downright inflated by the awareness of their own pseudo-significance ...

And everything is decorous, noble, in the old way!
People are already joking that it's time to restore the house of the merchant Ipatiev and make a bigger basement.

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: Waterways 672

And everything is decorous, noble, in the old way!

[Olkhovsky]

People are already joking that it's time to restore the house of the merchant Ipatiev and make a bigger basement.

So it is already - the EBN Center is standing, waiting for its heroes.

[Alf]

Quote: Eug

some of the top powers that be indulge in this farce ...

He does not indulge, but probes the soil ...

[Vlad Baryatinsky]

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

"Ball during the plague"

[Gardamir]

"Ball during the plague"

by the way, all without masks.

[Alf]

Quote: Gardamir

"Ball during the plague"

by the way, all without masks.

The virus respects the crowned.

[Revival]

Lived, now it's such a disgrace to watch

[bk316]

Lived, now it's such a disgrace to watch

Come on, don't be pharisee.
There are mountaineering weddings on the top of Elbrus.
There are ski runs when the groom lowers the bride in his arms along the track.
There are even airsoft guns.
And these arranged the "royal" one.
Keach of course, but you want to not watch.
If you have any questions, then to the ROC ...

[IgorIP]

Quote: bk316

Lived, now it's such a disgrace to watch

Come on, don't be pharisee.
There are mountaineering weddings on the top of Elbrus.
There are ski runs when the groom lowers the bride in his arms along the track.
There are even airsoft guns.
And these arranged the "royal" one.
Keach of course, but you want to not watch.
If you have any questions, then to the ROC ...

And what questions can there be for them? Everything was done in the best possible way, according to the price!))

[bk316]

And what questions can there be for them? Everything was done in the best possible way, according to the price list!

I don’t know I don’t go to church. But it seems that they should have some kind of canons - they are not supposed to wear a crown on their head. However, maybe there is a price for this.

[IgorIP]

Quote: bk316

And what questions can there be for them? Everything was done in the best possible way, according to the price list!

I don’t know I don’t go to church. But it seems that they should have some kind of canons - they are not supposed to wear a crown on their head. However, maybe there is a price for this.

Everyone is supposed to)) This means something ... This is not strong. But beautiful)

[saygon66]

These are not crowns, but crowns! They get married ...

[Petrik66]

In less than half a century, the scope of tasks for the provision of garrison, government and public events has greatly increased, so in the early 1990s a new expanded composition of the Guard of Honor was formed. The PC conducts rituals of meeting and seeing off the heads of foreign delegations, laying wreaths at the graves of soldiers who died in the battles for the freedom and independence of our Motherland. In addition, he performs rituals for giving military honors at the opening of monuments, memorials and burials, and also participates in the military-patriotic education of young people and other socially significant events.

Apparently, this is another socially significant event. They had to hire chopovtsy, but no - at the expense of the state. SHAME,

[Alf]

Quote: Petrik66

They had to hire chopovtsy,

And who are the chopovtsy? Guys are specific legalized.

[tech3030]

And they have not forgotten where the Romanovs are? Can I show them the way?

[Alf]

Quote: tech3030

And they have not forgotten where the Romanovs are? Can I show them the way?

Do they need it?

[Storog dvornik]

And what did someone find their corpses? Even the Russian Orthodox Church did not believe in the Yeltsin farce with the burial of the "remains of the royal family" and DNA analysis ...

[Alf]

Quote: Storog Dvornik

even the Russian Orthodox Church did not believe ...

And for ZAO ROC it is NOT PROFITABLE if it is found and 100% positively identified. How then to muddy the water?

[prior]

Curse words...
Loud obscene words ...
Selective checkmate ......
Dirty choice mat ....
........... and here it sounded ........

[rocket757]

... The magnificent celebration caused a lot of questions from, let's say, the general public.

Exactly, "let's just say so" .... I'll add on my own - the general public of narrow circles.
I don’t want to seem rude, but OUR WIDE PUBLIC, absolutely DOES what they are there and how muddied.
Although, again from myself .... advice to them and love.

[Sergey Novikov_3]

How I want the communists of Russia, having come to power, to deal with all this monarchist bastard using well-known and effective methods. I hope so

[your1970]

Quote: Sergey Novikov_3

communists of Russia

Which? From siu? These can, oh
Probably...
Move from pocket to pocket

[your1970]

Quote: Sergey Novikov_3

communists of Russia, having come to power

-and for this they nominated a billionaire as a candidate .... All the classics of ML in their coffins are spinning from such a surprise ..

[Million]

Gypsy or what? In crumpled pants

[Alf]

Quote: Million

Gypsy or what? In crumpled pants

What was, then he put on ...

[Million]

Now I understand why the whole royal family was shot

[Slon_on]

What was that? Are they accustomed to monarchy by seeing persons who have nothing to do with the succession to the throne?

[Alf]

Quote: Slon_on

Are they accustomed to monarchy by seeing persons who have nothing to do with the succession to the throne?

It doesn't matter who sits on the throne. They will still rule from behind the throne.

[Dimy4]

They want to go to the basement of the Ipatiev house.

[Adagka]

the mummers are sometimes mummers, only the company of the guard of honor is the most real, and after all, someone organized all this, sent the soldiers to this booth. now, after the hype arose, an investigation was launched retroactively, the commandant urgently slipped off on vacation ...

[Million]

I remember how a military orchestra performed Lashaaatemikantaaaare in the Kremlin palace ...
It looked shameful ..

[Nafanya from the sofa]

Another spit on the citizens of the Russian Federation. The "board" for Mannerheim of the St. Petersburg administration was not enough. Now this "circus" with impostors. Disgusting and insulting.

[valentine light]

One word, the coronation begins ... "(" Crown of the Russian Empire ")
I did not believe it, I climbed to watch the media publications ...
It seems like they are writing- ".. the military prosecutor's office has started checking the" honor guard ".. :))

[Alf]

Quote: valentin light

It seems like they are writing- ".. the military prosecutor's office has started checking the" honor guard ".. :))

But the results are unlikely to be.

[Tagan]

Quote: Svarog

Quote: AlexGa

People, what the hell is this going on ???

Yes, everything is simple .. this is the beginning of neo-feudalism .. the king ... the supreme ruler .. the governors-feudal lords .. Such a scenario is drawn. We found somewhere a clown who can't speak Russian either .. and slowly began to introduce him into circulation.

Yes, yes, your way out)))
The feeling that Kostya has decided not so much to show these clowns as pea, but to cry about his own importance. But, I think, has not matured yet. This pseudo-patriot cannot even take Navalny's standards, since you don’t promote him.

[Tagan]

Quote: Sergey Novikov_3

How I want the communists of Russia, having come to power, to deal with all this monarchist bastard using well-known and effective methods. I hope it will. In general, it's time to come already "Russian Pinochet", we are tired of waiting for you ... There is no longer much to tolerate, the regime has completely "blown off the roof"

And how do these current "communists" differ from those mummers?

[Kushka]

Speaking of the communists. A tale about the secretary of the Leningrad City Committee
Romanov, that he arranged the wedding of his daughter not on a cruiser and the tables were
served with dishes of the Romanov dynasty from the Hermitage true
or not?

[tank66]

In my memoirs, I don’t remember what kind of KGB officer, about the times of the blessed "stagnant", I read that within the framework of the political bureau games, so that Romanov would not climb higher, they arranged anti-publicity for him. Moreover, that poor fellow resisted but the "comrades" insisted.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: tank66

In my memoirs, I don’t remember what kind of KGB officer, about the times of the blessed "stagnant", I read that within the framework of the political bureau games, so that Romanov would not climb higher, they arranged anti-publicity for him. Moreover, that poor fellow resisted but the "comrades" insisted.

Romanov was the first candidate for general secretary, the Andropovs needed a humpback, so the gebnya spread rumors about Romanov.

[Alf]

Quote: Kushka

Speaking of the communists. A tale about the secretary of the Leningrad City Committee
Romanov, that he arranged the wedding of his daughter not on a cruiser and the tables were
served with dishes of the Romanov dynasty from the Hermitage true
or not?

Infa came across that a fairy tale.

[ivan2022]

Quote: Kushka

articles about the communists. A tale about the secretary of the Leningrad City Committee Romanov that he arranged the wedding of his daughter not a cruiser and the tables were
served with dishes of the Romanov dynasty

I fully admit that it is true, but it is absolutely not clear, what does the communists have to do with it? Obviously, if this really happens, then there can be no talk of any communists.
And if a person bought at the same time the party ticket of the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the certificate of the CIA agent and the certificate of Superman, then for you he is "no fools" - at the same time a communist and an agent and Super-Duper? Maybe communism in Russia failed not because of the secretary of the regional committee Romanov or even the secretary of Yeltsin, but precisely because of such a childish mentality of tens of millions of adult "dear Russians"?

[AB]

And who needs them, what else to discuss them. Clowns. The Russian monarchy ceased to exist de jure on March 2 (15), 1917 in Pskov, de facto in Yekaterinburg on the night of July 16-17, 1918. There are no tsars or emperors in Russia, as they are unnecessary. We put an end to this.

[t-12]

De jure, the form of government has been postponed until the decision of the Constituent Assembly.

[ivan2022]

Quote: AB

Clowns ....... We put an end to this.

I doubt it. For Russia is a country of such fantastic boundless "endorsement" that the current "clowning" tomorrow can easily become the idea of ​​the highest flight and nationwide love ....... we easily become both Orthodox and atheists and communists and capitalists. As the master commands, so we will. They built a country, ruined the country, build cities again ...

[AB]

we easily become both Orthodox and atheists and communists and capitalists. As the master commands, so we will.

You are talking about the inhabitants of the glorious, former USSR. Everything seems to be correct for you, but this is only in words. We pray to Christ, but we celebrate Shrovetide. We say that there is no God, but we baptize children. We wear a pioneer tie at school, go out into the street and immediately take it off. We have a Komsomolsk or Party membership card, but at the same time we do not trust the party leadership, but often either we joke about it, or we simply hate it. The master says one thing, if we do, we keep a fig in our pocket. Most often we do nothing at all, but if we do, then with a profit for ourselves. And the master, somehow, will interrupt. Destroy, and then build a new one on the remains, this can only be a self-sufficient people who believe in themselves and their destiny. And with all this, we remain ourselves, the most interesting thing regardless of nationality, Russians and nothing else.

[vitvit123]

Quote: Lesovik

If it hadn't been for VO, I wouldn't have heard about this wedding ...

Similarly ...

[Daniil Konovalenko]

"Cheka? There are white people in the city!" (C) hf "Deja vu"

[DenVB]

Quote: stalki

Guard? So for money now everything is possible.

If the military commandant's office of St. Petersburg provides paid services, there must be an official price list approved by the order of the superior chief. That is, the commander of the Western Military District. I would like to see this price list. Many would not mind ordering soldiers in smart overcoats with sabers for a wedding.

[41 REGION]

Quote: DenVB

Many would not mind ordering soldiers in smart overcoats with sabers for a wedding.

Can they dance?

[Tagan]

Quote: Kushka

Speaking of the communists. A tale about the secretary of the Leningrad City Committee
Romanov, that he arranged the wedding of his daughter not on a cruiser and the tables were
served with dishes of the Romanov dynasty from the Hermitage true
or not?

I remember that many people discussed this episode in those days. Despite the fact that there was no Internet. Where the information came from, I will not say. But if from the newspapers, then it is possible and true, since the spread of fakes then, to put it mildly, was not welcomed.

[Alf]

Quote: Tagan

But if from the newspapers, then it is possible and true, since the spread of fakes then, to put it mildly, was not welcomed.

THEN was not welcome ??? Yes, in those "glorious" times, so much lies poured in a swift jack and, which is typical, only in the direction of the communists.

[nickolai.maliugin]

When the word Russian was replaced by Russians, it became clear where we were going. The word "Russians" was first written by Maxim the Greek in the Middle Ages. Then in the war this word was used by the German accomplice Kutepov. And only in 91 it was introduced into circulation by Yeltsin. What is now happening is natural for our country. Those who were born even in 1985 no longer know another country. The fifth column in the passport has disappeared. It would seem that nationalities are blurred. But we must take into account that the traditions of smaller nations are much stronger than the main nation.

[tank64rus]

Late by 120 years. Everything arrived. Finish.

[Tagan]

Quote: Alf

Quote: Tagan

But if from the newspapers, then it is possible and true, since the spread of fakes then, to put it mildly, was not welcomed.

THEN was not welcome ??? Yes, in those "glorious" times, so much lies poured in a swift jack and, which is typical, only in the direction of the communists.

You in my opinion are confusing something. Just THEN, in order to pour this towards the communists, one had to have very weighty arguments. It was 1974, if anything. But in this case, the veracity of the story is in question.

[Alf]

Quote: Tagan

It was 1974, if anything.

If you think that in 74th year this wedding got into the newspapers, then you are mistaken. This marriage, more precisely, the fact of its use and location, played with colors in the newspapers only in the early 90s. And even then, even now it is not clear where the fact itself came from. And even if we take for the truth the fact of the dishes, then the fact of the wedding in 1974 on board the Aurora is unreal.
But for some reason, the accusers of the communists do not like to mention SUCH a fact.

[Alf]

And, by the way, the faces on this ... all the same, all from the current government lit up.

[Alf]

Quote: Alf

the fact of a wedding in 1974 aboard the Aurora is unrealistic.

To Maxim, what it was POSSIBLE was if the newlyweds boarded the cruiser as to the Eternal Flame. But that's okay.

[Roman Efremov]

Today on the radio KP listened to Barantz (he has his own program there) - he said without hesitation that it was a real guard of honor. Succumbed to emotions, or knows something? That's why I listen to Baranets - a person with someone on a short leg and someplace. Sometimes he can hear some exclusive.

[romandostalo]

Another bowel movement from our government ...

[Mr. PeZhe]

From the very moment when Nicholas II abdicated in favor of his brother Mikhail, and he refused to be the new tsar - the Romanovs have no rights to the throne. They are nobody, and there is no way to call them. Such is the price of desertion from office. As for Goga Mukhosky, he is just a rogue who must be driven out of Russia with a pissing rag.

[Alf]

Quote: Mr. PeZhe

then this is just a rogue who must be driven out of Russia with a pissing rag.

But judging by what happened, this rogue of our power was needed for some reason.

[Nitarius]

not the authorities .. but his PRO-Western wing of the Liberators!

[Alf]

Quote: Nitarius

not the authorities .. but his PRO-Western wing of the Liberators!

Is there someone else there? Who said he was a liberal?

[Nitarius]

GOD .. did not give a letter to control! and this is trash about the Western rush to the throne of Russia to mother! ! Except for the KOL of these parasites, there is no greater desire!

[Alf]

Quote: Nitarius

GOD .. did not give a letter to control!

And who is God? And to whom did he even give a certificate to reign? Give at least one PROVEN fact.

[Tagan]

Quote: Alf

If you think that in 74th year this wedding got into the newspapers, then you are mistaken. This marriage, more precisely, the fact of its use and location, played with colors in the newspapers only in the early 90s. And even then, even now it is not clear where the fact itself came from. And even if we take for the truth the fact of the dishes, then the fact of the wedding in 1974 on board the Aurora is unreal.

I am not saying that the story developed in 1974, but I just put forward a proposal about the newspaper, to be precise. Then I would hardly remember something like that. But I heard this story while still in school in the early eighties.
I don't take into account the jaundice press in the early 90s at all.

[DerSamowar]

White Army, Black Baron
They are preparing the royal throne for us again.

[Alexander Vanichev]

And the king is not real ...

[JD1979]

Something about this Masha is silent))) although after the greetings from Semin, she probably decided not to disgrace herself again. Well, or someone more intelligent has forbidden to open his mouth.)

[gsev]

Quote: JD1979

Something about this Masha is silent

Apparently, the honors given to the crooks-Romanovs deeply offended the feelings of those who risked their lives in Chechnya, Crimea, Syria and did not receive even a hundredth part of the respect shown to those who play in the monarchy. Merit should be assessed by deeds and not by proximity to the highest near-government crowd. Moreover, this get-together does not benefit the state, but only has fun at someone else's expense and discredits the state. The situation is twofold: M. Simonyan is not an aircraft designer, not an officer, not a creator of vaccines and antibiotics, but her income is disproportionately large compared to those who ensure Russia's competitiveness and survival. And the authorities did not decide to continue the partying of the high society parties or to stifle their appetites a little.

[faterdom]

Where are the loaders from the Aurora?
Maybe it's time to bang?

[Alf]

Quote: faterdom

Where are the loaders from the Aurora?
Maybe it's time to bang?

Only this time around the Kremlin, in combat and all along, but more than once.

[seacap]

Nonsense of some stupefied and stupefied clowns. As far as I understand, being a simple man in the street, but with a normal Soviet education, and not an egesh, etc. an underdeveloped remote control, the Romanov dynasty ended when Nicholas II and his family were shot on the night of July 16-17, 1918. In the basement of their temporary dwelling - the house of engineer Nikolai Ipatiev, and everything else from the evil one for. It causes bewilderment and regret how low the intelligence and the level of education of both the local administration and the media, which attach any significance to this "courtyard" show

[Storog dvornik]

Life is bad without a sucker - the motto is on the shield of any swindler ...
This character did not cut down a sour dough during the campaign by issuing (selling) his "passports" and citizenship ...
There is even a member of the RSFSR government, the head of the RF Ministry of Defense, the Maltese knight Shoigu got ...
In 1994, I knew swindlers who sold titles - they took 50 Baku raccoons for a diploma of a nobleman (handsome, expensive with protection)! ... Higher the title, higher the price tag ... new Russians "were immeasurably, and ZERO glory ...
They planted ...

[Vladimir61]

Time puts everything in its place ...

Peskov said that "The Kremlin has no opinion whatsoever on this matter. We do not consider this to be our question." In fact, this is a statement that the state has nothing to do with this ceremony.

The chancellery of the Russian Imperial House (director Alexander Zakatov) reported that the ceremony was agreed "according to all the rules." It is true that these "rules" and with whom they were agreed, did not explain.

The press service of the Western Military District reported that an official check had begun on the fact of the participation of the company of the guard of honor of the St. Petersburg commandant's office in this event. But the military commandant of the city, Colonel Ramil Volkov, suddenly went on vacation and is outside St. Petersburg.

[Alf]

Quote: Vladimir61

But the military commandant of the city, Colonel Ramil Volkov, suddenly went on vacation and is outside St. Petersburg.

And is there in Austria like Sobchak?

[Tuzik]

now it remains to draw the heirs of the Rurikites, hold a wedding in the Kremlin, and let them argue with the Romanovs who are the true heir to our territory.

[Borisych]

Go crazy, clowns in St. Petersburg. The imaginary courtiers have woken up, twitching their legs, arranging matings. Right now the Poles will catch up, False Dmitry 13 will be shoved onto the throne. Yes, even blue. Darkness, human groan over Russia.

[Wildcat]

The command of the Western Military District (WMD) received disciplinary sanctions from the head of the Ministry of Defense Sergei Shoigu for attracting an honor guard to the wedding ceremony of a descendant of the Romanov dynasty, Georgiy Romanov, with Italian citizen Rebecca Bettarini. TASS reports this with reference to sources in the military department
https://www.vedomosti.ru/society/news/2021/10/06/890027-shoigu-privlek-k-otvetstvennosti-voennih?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop

[Roman Efremov]

Alas, everything turned out to be true. Shame and shame. And it doesn’t matter at all what kind of person and what surname he persuaded (bought) our military personnel to participate in his show. There should be no official honor guard at a private event!!! No one has.

[Wildcat]

I agree.
The guard of honor is for those “who are entitled”: a military greeting to heads of state, funeral ceremonies and military remembrance.

In general, of course, this makes a painful impression.
Somehow the sense of style and humility is missing. One coat of arms on a train on the floor is worth something.

On the one hand, the craving of our “elite” is to ensure that she, the “elite,” is “accepted at court” and not only as nouveau riche and money bags, but also as “persons close to...”.
On the other hand, IMHO, people who, in a country that has rejected the monarchy, tell something about the heirs to the throne and have a dubious status (even among their relatives are not particularly considered the “head of the house”), with some unpleasant faces and in clothes, in which clowns on Dvortsovaya offer tourists to take pictures... They are also trying to raise some kind of status for themselves...
And of the guests at the wedding, the most notable one is the former king of Egypt.
In general, “two solitudes” met: our elite and the Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs.
Also the Russian Orthodox Church...
Also the military.... God forbid, how the Russian Orthodox Church "worked according to a tax"... let it be just someone's mistake.

In general, I am not against a constitutional monarchy, but only in those countries where the merits of the monarchy are visible and where each generation does not want to be worse than it was. Spain and Great Britain are good examples; a lot rests on monarchs. For the Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs in Russia, the “train left” a long time ago, even from the Dno station or from Pskov in 1917.

And for individual Holstein-Gottorp-Romanovs such a trail stretches that they are not like getting married in St. Isaac's... even if you vote on Topvar - “ask them from the Russian Federation,” then 90% will agree, on Dvortsovaya all the places of clowns and kings are occupied, no more.

By the way, has anyone here said anything good about this couple?

And about the groom: do you want military men to honor you at your wedding? Go, serve, and lose weight at the same time! And then invite your colleagues to the wedding.

[wandlitz]

Those involved in sending a guard of honor to the wedding ceremony have already been punished.

[Alf]

Quote: wandlitz

Those involved in sending a guard of honor to the wedding ceremony have already been punished.

Who exactly ? And How ?

[JD1979]

Quote: Alf

Who exactly ? And How ?

Someone. They shook their finger. Although they obviously didn’t settle everything for thanks, and this is already a crime, plus the very fact of attracting someone for other purposes. They should have been thrown out of office and out of the army in handcuffs, but... Apparently they managed to share.

[ivan2022]

Yes-ah-ah.. It will be cooler than EBN’s tricks for “Kalinka-Malinka”...... although not as cool as ruining your own country in peacetime.... Oh, a lot - there are many other things our compatriots can do that will “plunge the whole world into bewilderment” ..... But it seems that the Lord God himself realized it earlier than Shoigu. “Took control” - and the rate of population decline without famine and in peacetime is increasing for a reason! “There was an error - we’ll fix it,” one Angel whispered to another.

[nov_tech.vrn]

There are only German roots in this family from the Romanovs, no one recognizes them as heirs, the only interesting thing is who was paid so that not a fake one, like the family, but a real guard of honor would appear.

[p0pulivox]

An event from the category of “the circus left, but the clowns remained”... But someone needed it?!

[Pandiurin]

Super event.
And the honor guard is on point.
It’s just not clear, they took out the broadswords and what stopped them from chopping the pseudo-monarch’s mold into cabbage?

[Alf]

Quote: Pandiurin

It’s just not clear, they took out the broadswords and what stopped them from chopping the pseudo-monarch’s mold into cabbage?

They’ll give you the same as for normal people... And then you’ll have to chop down not only the “heroes of the occasion”, but also those participating, and there are such people “close to the emperor”...

[Klingon]

These are some kind of rich impostors and pure window dressing in the retro-90s style. And this honorary guard is paid for in tugriks. Another question: what is all this show for?

[Alf]

Quote: Klingon

Another question: what is all this show for?

And the Mannerheim board?
Is the Mausoleum fenced off?
And what about the monument to Krasnov?
How will the electorate accept it? Will it work or not...

[tolancop]

I can also understand the involvement of the police to ensure public order. But attracting military personnel?! The Armed Forces were spat in the face!!! Who will they send to please tomorrow and for how much? , who gave the order to attract military personnel to this Sabbath, deserves a tribunal and a kick in the ass without a pension. The moral damage to the army has been enormous.

[kytx]

Quote: NEOZ

Quote: Tatiana

Andrey Fursov. Who is Maria Vladimirovna Romanova. June 29, 2017.

this character claims that Brazilian Jiu Jitsu leads to homosexuality ...
should you trust him?

Jiu-jitsu is not Brazilian at all
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