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Iranian general: Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters appeared in Azerbaijan during the war for Karabakh

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Azerbaijan and Turkey will conduct joint military exercises near the borders with Iran. This is taking place against the background of some aggravation in relations between Tehran and Baku. The Iranian military claims that during the fighting in Karabakh, a considerable number of militants penetrated the region and are now "trying to break through to Iran to destabilize the situation in the country." Iran notes that this "plays into the hands of Israel," and the Azerbaijani leadership "does not take decisive measures to neutralize the militants."


Iranian Foreign Minister Hossein Amir-Abdolahiyan:

We do not tolerate the presence and provocative actions of Israel near our borders. Such actions threaten our national security. We will take the necessary steps to address this issue.

Earlier, as already reported by Voennoye Obozreniye, units of Iranian troops were deployed to the area of ​​the cities of Khoy and Tabriz in the north-west of the country - to the borders of Azerbaijan and Turkey. Iran in its exercises uses artillery, unmanned Aviation, other military equipment.

Turkish-Azerbaijani exercises in the Iranian border area will start tomorrow, October 5.

The Unshakable Brotherhood-2021 exercise will be held on the territory of the Nakhichevan Autonomous Republic (NAR) until October 8. This was confirmed by Turkish Defense Minister Hulusi Akar. According to the Turkish minister, the exercises are conducted "with the aim of deepening cooperation and friendship between the armies and peoples of the two fraternal countries."

At the same time, the Iranian brigadier general of the IRGC Heydari says that Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters (* a terrorist group banned in Russia) are on the territory of Azerbaijan today.

The Israeli and Azerbaijani press rejects the accusations by the Iranian authorities and representatives of the command.

Meanwhile, the spiritual leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, noted that the dispute between Tehran and Baku must be resolved without the intervention of third forces.
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  1. Thrifty
    Thrifty 4 October 2021 07: 29
    +7
    You can understand the Persians, the Turks in the region are beginning to manage, Erdogen decided to recreate the Turkish Empire. Therefore, the Persians do not want the strengthening of Turkey, which may lead to the loss of the part of their country by the Persians inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis.
    1. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 October 2021 07: 32
      -13
      "fun" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too ... but at least minus yourself to death ...
      1. A. Privalov
        A. Privalov 4 October 2021 07: 40
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        "fun" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too ... but at least minus yourself to death ...

        I declared a moratorium on cons a few months ago. From me you are a plus. Personally. hi
        1. hrych
          hrych 4 October 2021 08: 34
          -1
          Privalov, are you a pacifist of the militaristic site - Military Review? wassat Some people do not know how to perceive victories and achievements normally, it was necessary to be savage, it was necessary to incite the Armenians, etc. And the robbery and extortions of heavy trucks led to the brink of war. The trouble came from where they did not expect, Aliyev is under the threat of Iranian proxies. They know how to do this, and the Kudsites are probably well represented in Azerbaijan. The prognosis is unfavorable. Perhaps it will not come to direct clashes, but the Iranians will conduct special operations, do not go to the fortuneteller.
          1. A. Privalov
            A. Privalov 4 October 2021 08: 59
            +4
            Quote: hrych
            Privalov, are you a pacifist of the militaristic site - Military Review?

            Well, I haven't reached such heights yet.
            However, stupid minus without a single objection, I consider unacceptable.
            As one of the participants once said, such a minus is the lot of the poor.
            How can you disagree with him if you see the minuses under comments like "The Volga flows into the Caspian Sea" or "2 + 2 = 4".
            When there is nothing to clearly argue with, I just walk by. I put pluses to the comments I like. I could have put more than one. hi
            1. hrych
              hrych 4 October 2021 09: 13
              +8
              Quote: A. Privalov
              if you see the minuses under comments like "Volga flows into the Caspian Sea" or "2 + 2 = 4".

              Don't trust propaganda. Volga flows into Kama wassat
              1. sniperino
                sniperino 4 October 2021 18: 06
                +1
                Quote: hrych
                Volga flows into Kama

                I don’t know what the hydrographs were guided by, but it looks like it’s the other way around.
          2. Gardamir
            Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 14
            -3
            but the Iranians will carry out special operations,
            So I'm for Iran, but on the other hand. Well, there will be even more Azeris in Moscow.
            1. Bat
              Bat 4 October 2021 09: 55
              -8
              Quote: Gardamir
              So I'm for Iran, but on the other side

              I sometimes think that you are not all right with your head. That is, you are FOR Iran, which is against Azerbaijan where Russian citizens live, Russian culture in the form of media and education, and much more. I now understand why Russia has no friends. You are zombie. You are ungrateful. Not at the expense of Iran, but at the expense of the huge contribution of both people and resources, we helped you during the Second World War. You are ungrateful !!!
              1. Gardamir
                Gardamir 4 October 2021 10: 14
                +7
                against Azerbaijan where Russian citizens live
                Many Russians live in the former Soviet Union. Even in Ukraine, but here it is generally accepted that there are only Bandera members in Ukrin.
                But let's not talk about Russians in Azerbaijan, let's talk about Azerbaijanis in Moscow. They sincerely consider themselves to be masters. Until the age of 50, he believed that all people are brothers, all women are sisters, but communicating with citizens of the former Soviet republics. start to become a nationalist
              2. Hypertension
                Hypertension 4 October 2021 11: 37
                +9
                Quote: Yarasa
                we helped you during the Second World War.

                You helped yourself. We lived in one country - this time. If the Germans approached the AzSSR - it would not seem a little to you - these are two. That you are always hiding behind the Russians living in Azerbaijan? I do not think that they somehow seriously affect the foreign policy of Azerbaijan. A little bit - "here we have Russians." It feels like they are hostages there.
                1. Petro_tut
                  Petro_tut 4 October 2021 14: 28
                  +1
                  It feels like they are hostages there.

                  Hide behind Russian wives
                2. Vlad1
                  Vlad1 4 October 2021 14: 35
                  +5
                  So there are hostages .. What is not the topic The Azerbaijanis immediately begin to braid the Russian inhabitants, and they beat themselves in the chest that they have Russians living well and in other republics such as Russians are oppressed
              3. von_Tilsit
                von_Tilsit 4 October 2021 11: 50
                +3
                You? HELPED us ?! During the Second World War, your ancestors performed their sacred duty, and did not help.
                1. Bat
                  Bat 4 October 2021 15: 10
                  -8
                  Quote: von_Tilsit
                  During the Second World War, your ancestors performed their sacred duty, and did not help.

                  Doooolg? )))
                  1. von_Tilsit
                    von_Tilsit 5 October 2021 15: 24
                    +3
                    Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowed And whoever did not do it, was responsible to the friendly family of the peoples of the USSR in accordance with the law of wartime. And then there was the decision of Azerbaijan to secede from the USSR. So what can be "brotherly pamagy, listen" now? Previously, it was necessary to think. Russia has its own interest in the Caucasus region and it does not coincide with the interests of your Ottoman brother, alas.
                2. Foxmara
                  Foxmara 5 October 2021 03: 34
                  +3
                  The traders will bill us that our ancestors fought.
                  The only ones who were not obliged to, but fought for the Russians, are ... the Mongols. They supplied resources, warriors and did not ask for anything. For these same .. Should be ashamed, I guess. To those who fought. It's good that they don't see it.
                  There were still no towers at all, whom, on the contrary, they tried to protect, so that everyone would not perish - these are Tuvans. The same Mongols in general, but on the other side of the Sayan Mountains.
              4. Petro_tut
                Petro_tut 4 October 2021 14: 16
                +1
                against Azerbaijan where Russian citizens live

                Those whom you call Russian citizens have Russian passports? Or is it just Russian women married to residents of Arzeybaj?
              5. Petro_tut
                Petro_tut 4 October 2021 14: 16
                -1
                against Azerbaijan where Russian citizens live

                Those whom you call Russian citizens have Russian passports? Or is it just Russian women married to residents of Arzeybaj?
              6. alystan
                alystan 4 October 2021 15: 56
                +1
                Comment on this if it doesn't bother you.
                At the same time, the Iranian brigadier general of the IRGC Heydari says that Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters (* a terrorist group banned in Russia) are on the territory of Azerbaijan today.

                And your phrase
                That is, you are FOR Iran, which is against Azerbaijan where Russian citizens live, Russian culture in the form of media and education, and much more.

                you can write this way: "That is, you are FOR Turkey, which is against Armenia, where Russian citizens live, Russian culture in the form of media and education, and much more."
                So everything in this world is relative ...
              7. Bakinec
                Bakinec 4 October 2021 18: 31
                -2
                Yes, you spit on this bio-waste. I am also haters of Azerbaijan. These eggheads during the war wrote that they say everything. Azerbaijan has lost, the Armenians are about to seize Baku. Analysts are shitty. Azerbaijan conducts its own policy which gives results. And for some it is like a stake in the ass. Therefore, they bark.
              8. 75 Sergey
                75 Sergey 4 October 2021 22: 26
                +3
                Sorry, so it means WWII and VO went bypassing you, i.e. You, as Mongolia, helped us, but this action did not concern you ?!
                For the rest, read, I am for the international, but not one-sided tolerance, in the SEAD of Moscow my sister witnessed the conversation - "It's good in Lyublino, one thing is bad - there are many Russians."
              9. Tony fergusson
                Tony fergusson 5 October 2021 00: 28
                +2
                The opinion of one person does not mean the position of the entire state
              10. teptyar
                teptyar 5 October 2021 13: 43
                0
                do not be embittered, not everyone is like this. There are not many
            2. alystan
              alystan 4 October 2021 16: 00
              -2
              I think differently, now many of Central Asia and Russia (Crimea, Tararstan, Caucasus) "choose" Turkey. You probably understood that I mean people of the Muslim faith.
          3. Grandfather
            Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 15
            0
            Quote: hrych
            Some people do not know how to perceive victories and achievements normally,

            where is it ?
            1. bayard
              bayard 5 October 2021 07: 27
              +2
              They are now dizzy with success, so they are losing their shores. They do not understand that they have already become a puppet in Turkish games. Very risky games.
              And the reason for their success in the war with the Armenians in Karabakh (the latter) is not fully understood.
              And the consequences to which they are led.
              The Armenians had to bear responsibility for all their crimes and encroachments, especially since this conflict began several months earlier - with the provocations of the Armenians on the border with Azerbaijan, but not in Karabakh, but near the strategic pipeline to Turkey. Pashinyan put himself under the conflict in every possible way and did nothing, not only to settle the matter peacefully, but did not even prepare the country for war. In fact, he was a direct accomplice to Azerbaijan in the return of Karabakh.
              And Russia, which for so many years has not been able to convince Armenia not only to return at least the disputed territories that are not part of N. Karabakh, but also simply to force these savages to behave decently, decided to wash its hands and wait for the issue to be resolved by force of arms.
              And Azerbaijan bought weapons, incl. in the RF.
              Now the military, political and moral collapse of splintered Armenia has become a natural result of her behavior. Remember how they behaved towards Russia during the war itself.
              So by bringing the line of demarcation between the parties in line with the zone of residence of the Karabakh Armenians, the conflict resolved a long-standing dispute. And Russia intervened and stopped him.
              But the Azerbaijanis decided that they themselves had achieved everything ... and lost their heads - they are sliding more and more from good-neighborliness to confrontation with their strong neighbors.
              But this is fraught.
              It's just that Azerbaijan is a very young state that did not exist before 1992. They have always been either an Iranian province or a province of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
              And now they are not only daring to their neighbors and former metropolises, but also attract the military infrastructure of unfriendly or directly hostile states to their territory.
              And Iran reacts in this way quite justifiably - a few years ago Azerbaijan intended to provide Israel with jump airfields for the possibility of bombing Iran from the flight ... in both directions. And in Iran it is remembered.
              And Azerbaijan emphasizes this in every possible way, and its representatives on our website regularly declare their intention to create a coalition against Iran ... and the seizure of the so-called. South, West and even East Azerbaijan.
              This is madness ?
              Dizzy from the gift of victory?
              Or a sophisticated method of suicide?
              After all, neither Iran nor Russia makes claims to Azerbaijan ... It does not build intrigues for it ... it does not encroach on land and property ...
              But Azerbaijan is behaving exactly as Armenia behaved on the eve and especially after the seizure of Azerbaijani territories.
              I well remember that card from the ID of the killed Dashnak - "Great Armenia" No. from ... Beirut to Baku ... Azerbaijanis also remember her well.
              And then I served there.
              And now the situation is exactly mirror-like - already Azerbaijan and Turkey declare their intention to liquidate Armenia and return their historical name Irivan to their capital Yerevan ...

              Quote: Yarasa
              Iran asked yesterday to solve this problem through diplomacy. And in response, tomorrow or today, ours will begin the exercises. Do not belittle the importance of Aliyev,

              Is it schizophrenia?
              Iran invites you to resolve the issue through diplomacy, and do you respond with exercises?
              Iran at least moves its own troops on its territory, and you?
              Whose troops and capabilities do you trump with?
              Turkish?
              Pakistani?
              Israeli?
              Saudi?
              Are you sure that they will shed blood for you?
              For your nonsense, arrogance and disrespect for your neighbors?
              And just don't drag the Armenians here - nobody cares about them at all today. Now you are running into conflict - consciously and consistently.
              Are you aware of this?
              And the consequences of this conflict?
              Consequences for your statehood?
              Are you sure you have succeeded as a state?

              Dear Old Grandfather, I’m not for you anymore. hi
          4. Bat
            Bat 4 October 2021 09: 53
            -5
            Quote: hrych
            Perhaps it will not come to direct clashes, but the Iranians will conduct special operations, do not go to the fortuneteller.

            Hrych in a month I'll write to you that your skills in forecasting are not worth a dime. Iran will not agree to this. She's like a dog will bark, but not bite. Armenian handwriting, mantras with Ishil and aliens. In case you are not aware, Iran yesterday asked to solve this problem through diplomacy. And in response, tomorrow or today, ours will begin the exercises. Do not belittle the importance of Aliyev, he has the foundation of the MGIMO school + life in the family of a KGB-nickname and then the first secretary with an upgrade
            1. hrych
              hrych 4 October 2021 10: 17
              +1
              I didn’t say that exactly in a month wassat Don't fantasize. Of course, years will pass and Azerbaijan will be divided between Russia and Iran. Aliyev gave up, quarreling with Iran was complete stupidity. And he will definitely pay for it, together with the citizens of the country. Erdogan tried to avoid quarrels with Iran, because he knows that it is a powerful, regional power with a powerful missile potential. Erdogan fell out with Egypt, fell out with Israel, fell out with Greece, fell out with Saudi Arabia, and if he now gets into a fight with Iran, it will go nuts. Do not flatter yourself with Pakistan, now Iran and Pakistan are the main friends. In 2013, the BBC World Service Poll conducted a poll in Pakistan, which found that 76% of Pakistanis assess Iran's policies positively. This makes Pakistan the most pro-Iranian country in the world. I do not even doubt that for insulting Macron, the latter gave the task to the excellent French special services to solve the Erdogan problem. Washington is also dissatisfied with it. The cells of the Gulenists did not disappear anywhere, unless they went underground. When I see him, I see the doomed.
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            2. Vlad1
              Vlad1 4 October 2021 14: 41
              -4
              Do you really think that all this is done by your great Aliyev ?? And then I think why some of your deputies and others began to threaten Iran with Turkey or Pakistan !! Maybe because Aliyev himself knows that your troops are about nothing .. Plus, you are friends with the Jews, they sell you weapons in exchange for using your territory against Iran .. The assembly of intelligence data plus the Jews will start bombing Iran under a mask like it's you
            3. alystan
              alystan 4 October 2021 16: 06
              0
              Yarasa, in vain you are here with the previous "merits" (MGIMO school + life in the family of a KGB-nickname, and then the first secretary ...) we all (I think most of those present here) were living witnesses of who they really are turned out to be such with "foundations and upgrades" (most likely their Western special services have upgraded them) - Gorbachev, Andropov, Kozyrev, etc.
            4. Tony fergusson
              Tony fergusson 5 October 2021 00: 29
              +1
              Aliyev is great, but your forecast about Syria and Iran, and that Iran will be attacked by a crowd led by the United States, is also complete bullshit.
            5. bayard
              bayard 5 October 2021 08: 02
              +5
              Quote: Yarasa
              tomorrow or today our exercises begin. Do not belittle the importance of Aliyev, he has a foundation MGIMO school

              And you know that over the past few days in the Turkish army, strange things have been happening - at least six generals and over a hundred colonels have written reports and resigned.
              In protest against Turkey's policy in Syria. They believe that the blood of Turkish soldiers is being shed in vain, because they still have to leave Idlib, and they do not want to be the culprit of the continuing useless bloodshed. This is a reaction to the introduction of additional Turkish troops into Idlib and generally into northern Syria.
              Maybe this is why Erdogan looked so stiff and insecure in his meeting with Putin.
              And he left Sochi with new plans and ideas - about a joint space program, about new nuclear power plants in Turkey, about new purchases of S-400 ...
              Do you think that after all the above, he will want to complicate once again the relationship that has just begun to improve?
              The number of the resigned colonels is not less than one and a half hundred, does it tell you something?
              Especially after the purges in the Turkish army after the coup attempt?
              Even then, there was a sharp shortage of commanders of the regiment-brigade-division level. And now it comes out ... the last ones leave? Including those who have just received their positions?
              And you want to push your ally not just to the abyss - to the abyss itself?
              In recent years, Turkey has gotten into a whole bunch of conflicts, spoiled relations with almost all of its allies and partners, is playing on the brink of a foul - constantly ... and this is already a diagnosis ... Turkey is straining.
              Putin prompts and offers her another way - peaceful development (namely development, because energy is the foundation of any development), a way to stabilize relations with neighbors, to get out of conflict zones (to stop the pedaling of conflicts).
              And why are you pushing him with your behavior?
              To war?
              With Iran?
              Confrontation with Russia?
              Do you have any idea WHAT awaits you all for THIS?
              If you really unleash a conflict and involve your new allies in it ... they will curse you with all the people ... and leave you to your own devices.
              For in Karabakh, you had the truth behind you.
              And now you yourself have become the source and cause of evil.

              There is still time to think again.
              1. Vlad1
                Vlad1 5 October 2021 10: 27
                -3
                What was the truth behind them in Karabakh ??? The fact that they were given the lands of Armenians and other peoples and created a new state ??? With the help of Turkey, they again took the lands of the Armenians, now they claim Iran because a hundred years ago they also took the lands from Iran and took the name of the province and created this state ?? Soon they and the Turks will begin to stir up trouble in Russia under the pretext of using the protection of fraternal Turkic-speaking peoples .. Then you all remember, now you blame the Armenians
                1. bayard
                  bayard 5 October 2021 18: 25
                  +3
                  Quote: Vlad1
                  What was the truth behind them in Karabakh ???

                  I know too well the history of this conflict. And with a background. I served there at that time, as part of the RIC (Intelligence Information Center) of the air defense unit. And I know too much to be wrong.
                  And about the role of Armenians at the beginning of all this.
                  About how Soviet passports were burned in Yerevan square at rallies in 1985
                  About the explosions in the Moscow metro ... those very goose girls, and who did it.
                  About the expulsion of all ethnic Azerbaijanis from the Armenian SSR in 1987 - 1989
                  About how weapons, ammunition, explosives, radio stations, equipment, etc. were delivered under the guise of humanitarian aid after the earthquake in Spitak.
                  About the plundering of this aid by the Armenians and the subsequent sale in Leningrad, Moscow and other cities of Russia.
                  On the seizure of the weapons depots of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and DOSAF in Armenia on the eve of the first events in Karabakh.
                  The announcement of the inclusion of N. Karabakh in Armenia at the end of 1989 and its inclusion in the economic development plan of the Armenian SSR for 1990
                  And what followed.
                  On the caches of foreign weapons (Israeli machine guns "Uzi"), explosives, detonators, radio fuses, radio stations.
                  About the night attack of Armenian militants on the high-mountain garrison of the air defense post ... which was repulsed by destroying several attackers and from the body of one of them a Dashnak's ID with a "Great Armenia" card.
                  And much more .
                  I also know the history of the appearance of Armenians in those regions shortly after the February 1917 coup in Petrograd. Those Armenian Dashnaks from Turkey, who first staged the massacre of the Turks, hiding behind the presence of Russian troops in Erzurum, and then, after the departure of the Russian Army, defeated by the Turkish militia, fled with arms to the territory of the Republic of Ingushetia (already in turmoil) - to Karabakh, and already there the massacre of Azerbaijanis, "avenging" them for their defeat from the Turks, because Azerbaijanis were considered Turks ...
                  Several districts were then cut out completely ... And the Dashnak Armenians settled in them.
                  In the Caucasus, this story was well remembered, despite the true internationalism and friendship of peoples in the internal politics of the USSR.
                  And then, after the collapse of the USSR, the Armenians captured not only Karabakh, but also the adjacent regions of Azerbaijan, and were very proud of this "valor" of theirs.

                  And now the reckoning came and the restoration of the status quo.
                  It could have been much worse.
                  Russia intervened.
                  Saved again ...
                  And the Armenians again chose Pashinyan, who plunged them into this hopeless war.
                  This shame.
                  Into this hopelessness
                  And Russian people, and even more so people who know the truth, do not care deeply about the fate of these maniacs and madmen.
                  As well as on their counterparts - Azerbaijanis.
                  So I do not choose the side of the conflict. In this case, both are wrong, albeit in different ways.
                  And don't be all this in the post-Soviet space ...
                  Do not be on the territory of Russia itself so many people from these wild places ...
                  It would be generally purple ... but the refugees will rush to us ... And we would return the existing ones back to your mountains - to the fresh air, to defend the homeland - your mother.

                  The Kremlin's mistake was the refusal to coerce Armenia (and if necessary, by force) to return the occupied lands even earlier.
                  And in case of stubbornness - to expel from the CSTO.
                  And Azerbaijan should be accepted.
                  There would be more economic and geostrategic benefits from this.
                  For Russia .
                  And from Armenia there are always only losses, troubles and treason.
                  1. Vlad1
                    Vlad1 6 October 2021 07: 29
                    -2
                    Well, if you are talking about a metro explosion, then tell me about the very first terrorist attack when the Azerbaijanis staged an airplane in the USSR. As for the ultrasound machines, you or what are you confusing or lying .. There was no ultrasound, there were handicraft machines of our own production .. As for the attack on military units, you can certainly condemn, but where to get weapons to defend if at that time Azerbaijan was packed with military units and warehouses .. Do you know how many trains with weapons they captured ?? As for the year 1917, please don't tell a fairy tale. Well, or if you love history, then study it better, who lived in those lands, how the Republic of Azerbaijan was formed and why it is called the Republic of Baku in Iran.
                    1. bayard
                      bayard 6 October 2021 09: 09
                      +2
                      Young man, you are talking with an officer who was directly involved in those events, with an eyewitness and participant in many things. From 1988 to 1990, martial law was introduced in Azerbaijan three times. I personally sent them to the "Minister of Defense of the Popular Front of Azerbaijan" for negotiations with the command of our unit under the escort of my soldiers.
                      It is a pity that they were not arrested then, after the events in Tbilisi, the command was cautious, reinsured.
                      They then came exactly for weapons - for protection from Armenian aggression ... This is in the Soviet Union. Have been sent. After that, they tried to gather the population of the neighboring village of oil workers and storm the warehouses. But they were immediately scattered with the help of anti-aircraft searchlights (they were used to illuminate the runway during night flights), and the fleeing instigators were kept five kilometers in the crosshairs with these searchlights for five cars - it was at night.
                      No seizures of weapons from military depots in Azerbaijan were allowed!
                      There have been attempts.
                      They tried to disarm one of our radio engineering units in the plains of Karabakh (Gindarkh) - it is remote, there reinforcements did not immediately arrive. But they did not get a weapon, although there were a handful of soldiers and officers and only 10 submachine guns with one horn for each submachine gun ... For those events, my friend received the then (just introduced) Order of Courage, number 5. I kept him in touch with the command post from early morning until late at night, until everything was over there - I was on duty.
                      Quote: Vlad1
                      As for the ultrasound machines, are you confusing or lying ..

                      After an attempt to seize weapons in Gindarkh, the commander was changed there and my friend took command. So, only later, when the maroon berets were wooling the surroundings there, they opened many caches with weapons. Not easy.
                      "Uzi" Israeli - new, in oil, with ammunition in excess, plastids, fuses of various types, radio stations, equipment - all imported. They were found all over Karabakh. We found out where it all came from - when the Yerevan airport opened free access to all sides with gum. help, that's when, together with help, and all this was brought in - then there was a mess (my friends were present at the airport) and no one really inspected the goods, they were unloaded onto cars without any documents, because it was necessary to free the lane for new aircraft that were waiting in the air ...
                      Our officers and rescuers saw a lot of abominations there ... and this against the backdrop of SUCH tragedy.
                      As a warning from above, they had that earthquake, on the eve of all bestiality.
                      And there was an attack on the high-mountain radio-technical garrison in Armenia while I was on duty ... and there is an altitude of over 4000 m. ... They walked in full gear, armed to the teeth. At night . Only the moon was bright and snowy. And black figures on white snow are far away. So they saw it in time and had time to prepare, and they fought, and put them there in order, without their own losses. And they found the Dashnak's certificate on the left corpse (they took the rest with them).
                      So I'll tell you what.
                      All attacks on the departments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, DOSAF armories and other seizures began in Armenia. And much earlier than anything started in Azerbaijan. These have already risen in response, began to collect the militia, from the weapons they only had hunting rifles were some. The "popular front" ordered them to gather 50 guys from each village and arm themselves with whatever they have to.
                      And they tried to grab something, but ...
                      Quote: Vlad1
                      how many trains with weapons have they captured

                      No one .
                      In any case, in 1991.
                      There were isolated cases when they bought a machine gun from a soldier for a lot of money, and then he went on the run with money ... I myself, for the sake of checking such intentions, supported the conversation, when I was offered - it was interesting how much they would offer ... They offered 15, and then 20 thousand full-fledged Soviet rubles.
                      For a machine gun and four horns with cartridges.
                      Then the Volga cost less.
                      We have one assigned warrant officer, he was led away - for 5 thousand he sold, but not his own, but his soldier. Only on the same day everything was opened and the machine gun was returned. And that ensign (from the internal troops) went to court.
                      And you tell me about the trains.
                      Who told you such tales?
                      Already on January 20, 1990, Azerbaijan was suppressed SO harshly that no one wanted anything. And riots began among them - on January 11 in Lenkaran and on January 13 in Baku (and throughout Azerbaijan).
                      And we sheltered the Armenian refugees in our military units and took them out with our own transport from Azerbaijan. And they put brains in place for local activists. And not only with a kind word.
                      But in Armenia, Gorbachev covered you. He did not introduce martial law, nor did he appoint an anti-terrorist operation.
                      For a bribe from the Armenian diaspora, as it became known later.
                      Since then you have lost the shores. Completely out of control from impunity. And when the Union collapsed, they immediately captured not only Nagorno-Karabakh, but also a whole bunch of surrounding areas with an exclusively Azerbaijani population.
                      And according to their tradition, the population was completely expelled from there.
                      And they were very proud of their victory.
                      And the Azerbaijanis were not warriors at all, all the more so then, they did not prepare for war, did not have weapons ... but then no one would have allowed them.
                      But Gorbachev gave you everything.

                      So do not lose your weight - the Azeris have been preparing for their reconquest for 30 years. For them, the war was truly Patriotic.
                      And they won.
                      And you lost.
                      And thank the little little Pashinyan for this.
                      Quote: Vlad1
                      Don't tell a fairy tale about 1917

                      I studied operational materials and reports to the General Staff of that time about those events - the whole history of this conflict.
                      Quote: Vlad1
                      who lived on those lands as it was formed

                      Who lived? What was there before the Turks?
                      Transcaucasian Albania. Even before the invasion of the Arabs of Muhammad and the defeat of Persia.
                      Otherwise, the province of Arran.
                      Still differently - on ancient maps - Aria.
                      When the Arabs defeated and captured Persia, all the Albanians were brought out of there by Prince Bayan. Interesting name ? At the advice of the Russian princes, he and his people were assigned a place to settle. True, at first they allowed the traitors to torture the Kimrs.
                      but that's a different story.
                      She has nothing to do with the Armenians.
                      And I know the history of your settlement there - how the Assyrians took you into captivity from the kingdom of Israel. All ten tribes of Israel. And you are from the tribe of Asurov.
                      Jews.
                      Descendants of Isaac and Jacob.
                      Former escaped Egyptian slaves.
                      And you didn't have any "great Armenia".
                      And Urartu is not your country.
                      The Assyrians captured it even before your captivity, the population that survived withdrew to the North - to the Caucasus Mountains. Today they are Lezgins, chests, Avars ...
                      And the Armenians were simply brought there as slaves (again slaves) by the Assyrians - to those places for settlement.
                      But that was a long time ago.
                      And Armenia was not in the Caucasus, in the present eastern Turkey - Kars, Erzurum ...
                      In Erivan to settle (!) You as refugees from Turkey were received by the Russian Tsar. And he allowed me to settle there.
                      You came there from the late 19th - early 20th century.
                      You have no land of your own in the Caucasus.
                      Historical.
                      And the fact that your diaspora lived both in Iran and among (!) Caucasian peoples - lived by the mercy of these peoples.
                      On THEIR land.
                      Therefore, moderate your ambition and learn to build relationships.
                      If you want to stay and live in Erivan.
                      Russia will not defend you forever.
                      1. Vlad1
                        Vlad1 6 October 2021 09: 41
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                        Friend, you are persecuting something .. Maybe you are an Azerbaijani? Azerbaijanis left Armenia on their own, no one killed them, they didn’t rob, unlike the Armenians from Azerbaijan, secondly, read about the ring operation how their militants, under the cover of the Soviet riot police, killed civilians .. And I repeat once again teach history so as not to look stupid .. And yet, according to your version, then all peoples descended from Jews, and you too .. Whichever nation you belonged to
                      2. bayard
                        bayard 6 October 2021 09: 44
                        0
                        Quote: Vlad1
                        Are you an Azerbaijani?

                        laughing
                        It’s ridiculous.
                        Both of my parents are Russian.
                        I come from the South Urals.
                        And for the last 8 years I have been living in Donetsk.
                        We have been at war here for the eighth year.
                      3. Vlad1
                        Vlad1 7 October 2021 07: 49
                        -2
                        Another interesting thing is that you have a war in Donetsk, instead of trying to figure it out, you are here commenting on who to fight with whom and what you say, and you give predictions, have you decided everything at home ?? , strange like that
                      4. bayard
                        bayard 7 October 2021 10: 17
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                        It is strange that Russian soldiers are now guarding the Armenians in Karabakh.
                        Instead of dealing with your problems.
                        What are they doing there?
                        Whom did they save there again?
                        And why, if the Armenians are so independent and heroic?
                        How do you like this splinter between Turkey and Azerbaijan ...?
                        Sow the wind - reap the storm.
                        And the Russians have better things to do.
                      5. bayard
                        bayard 6 October 2021 10: 05
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                        Quote: Vlad1
                        read about the ring operation how their fighters, under the cover of the Soviet riot police, killed civilians.

                        Completely brainwashed?
                        We evacuated your Armenians with our transport from Azerbaijan.

                        You don’t want to draw conclusions ...
                        Then go to war.
                        YOURSELF!
                      6. Vlad1
                        Vlad1 6 October 2021 17: 24
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                        I do not deny that the troops helped the Armenians to leave Baku .. I said the riot police, together with their popular front, carried out an operation ring against peaceful villages .. And secondly, if you did not have something, it does not mean that after you did not happen .. And by the way we all scold Gorbachev for not hitting all this on time
                      7. bayard
                        bayard 6 October 2021 21: 08
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                        What is the date of this operation, I have not heard about it?
                        Whose was the OMON, Azerbaijani? Baku?
                        If all this happened at the end of 1991 - the beginning of 1992 - this is already a completely different thing.
                        And I don't make their militants innocent sheep either, I know many examples, but it was only later on their part. As a response to the rejection of Nagorno-Karabakh.
                        And to shake the crowd of savages to atrocities is not a tricky business.
                        Today Azerbaijan is already becoming that madman who can provoke a major regional conflict with the participation of all neighboring states. But then again - who caused all this?
                        This war with the defeat of Armenia?
                        Pashinyan!
                        Who chose him?
                        Twice !!?

                        And now Azerbaijan is bullying Iran.
                        It bully, completely not thinking about the consequences.
                        Only by confirming that immature states and nations should not have the right to their own statehood. They only bring problems and evil to neighbors.
                        And someone wanted to provide statehood to the Kurds ...
                        Not ripe.
                      8. Vlad1
                        Vlad1 7 October 2021 07: 19
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                        In April-August 1991, OMON detachments of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the Azerbaijan SSR, together with the internal troops of the Ministry of Internal Affairs of the USSR and units of the 4th Army (23rd division stationed in Kirovabad) undertook a large-scale military-police operation "Ring" to deport the Armenian population of Artsakh.

                        The final decision on the deportation of residents of a number of Armenian-populated villages in the NKAO and adjacent regions was adopted by the leadership of the Azerbaijan SSR in April 1991: at meetings of the Azerbaijan Defense Council on April 10, the Presidium of the Azerbaijan Supreme Soviet on April 11, and at a meeting with the President of Azerbaijan Ayaz Mutalibov with the leadership of the KGB, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Prosecutor's Office of the Republic April 16 1. The leadership of the deportation operations was entrusted to the Minister of Internal Affairs of Azerbaijan, Magomed Asadov2.

                        However, the “squeezing out” of the Armenian population from the villages of Northern Artsakh, adjacent to the NKAO, began much earlier. In particular, in the winter of 1989-1990. residents of three villages (Kushchi-Armavir, Azat, Kamo) were forced to leave their places of residence due to the incessant armed attacks on them, pressure from the regional authorities3.

                        Since the beginning of 1991 in Azerbaijan, practically openly, at the highest level, the idea has been regularly voiced that the Armenians, if they do not agree to submit to Baku, should be removed from Karabakh. Back in early February 1991, speaking in Baku, the second secretary of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Azerbaijan, head of the "Organizing Committee for Nagorno-Karabakh" V. Polyanichko said: "1991 will be declared the year of Karabakh. This year will be the last year in the difficulties of Azerbaijan. The land of Karabakh is our land, and we must occupy it for our children ”4.

                        On March 14, 1991, the European Parliament adopted Resolution (B3-0473 / 91), in which it emphasized the plight of the Armenian refugees and called on the President of the USSR, Mikhail Gorbachev, to take urgent and effective measures to put an end to the encroachments on the security of the population of Karabakh and adjacent Armenian enclaves, which, appears to be forcibly evicted5.

                        On March 25, 1991, the Azerbaijani OMON began regular shelling of the villages of Getashen and Martunashen. From April 16, electricity supply to Shahumyan region was cut off, telephone communication was cut off. On April 19, 1991, the personnel of the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs, located in the village of Getashen, were withdrawn from the village. On April 21, at the request of Baku, regular helicopter flights from Yerevan to Shahumyan were banned6.

                        On April 30, a massive shelling of the villages of Getashen and Martunashen began Operation Ring, during which, for the first time, tanks, combat helicopters, and artillery were used against civilians. Armenian villages were alternately taken into the ring by subdivisions of the internal troops of the USSR Ministry of Internal Affairs and the Soviet Army. Then the Azeri OMON and militia entered these villages, formally, ostensibly to “check the passport regime,” but in reality for murder, robbery, terror against the Armenian population, followed by deportation7.

                        As a result of the operation, more than two dozen villages of Northern Artsakh, as well as Shahumyan, Hadrut and Shusha regions were completely devastated and destroyed, almost ten thousand people were deported, more than 100 were killed, several hundred people were taken hostage. The fate of many of them remains unknown to this day.

                        In connection with the tragic events in Northern Artsakh, the leadership of the Republic of Armenia demanded an urgent convocation of an extraordinary congress of people's deputies of the USSR, but the Kremlin ignored this appeal.

                        In May 1991, the US Senate passed a resolution condemning “attacks on innocent children, women and men,” “indiscriminate use of force, including shelling civilian areas on Armenia’s eastern and southern borders,” and calling for “an end to blockades and other forms of use of force and intimidation. directed against Armenia and Nagorno-Karabakh ”8.

                        The Azerbaijani leadership viewed Operation Ring as the beginning of a large-scale deportation of the entire remaining Armenian part of Nagorno-Karabakh. Speaking on May 22, 1991 at a press conference at the Permanent Mission of the republic in Moscow, Afrand Dashdamirov, head of the ideology department of the Central Committee of the Communist Party of Azerbaijan, stated that “in the near future it will be necessary to expel another 32 thousand people from Karabakh” 9. At a meeting with the delegation of the first International Congress in memory of Andrei Sakharov, Afrand Dashdamirov and Azerbaijani President Ayaz Mutalibov justified the deportation of the Armenian population of Nagorno-Karabakh and did not rule out its continuation10. However, the failure of the GKChP putsch in August 1991, 11 after which Moscow stopped supporting Azerbaijan, put an end to the deportations.
                      9. bayard
                        bayard 7 October 2021 10: 10
                        0
                        Quote: Vlad1
                        Since the beginning of 1991 in Azerbaijan, practically openly, at the highest level, the idea has been regularly voiced that the Armenians, if they do not agree to submit to Baku, should be removed from Karabakh.

                        Which is quite fair, for all the disturbances began with you. For so many years they lived as part of one republic, without harassment and infringement, so many mixed families, so many Armenians lived throughout Azerbaijan, and in cities. And they occupied very lucrative positions ... and suddenly the neighboring republic declares part of the territory of its neighbors as its property (end of 1989).
                        And what did you want?
                        After the expulsion of the ALL Azerbaijani population from Armenia?
                        And the latter - in winter, through the mountain passes, where many died?
                        I am quoting our operational reports.
                        After the appearance of armed bands of Dashnaks with foreign weapons and equipment?
                        After opening so many caches of weapons and explosives?
                        After a series of attacks and terrorist attacks?
                        After an attempt to blow up an oil and gas pipeline to Armenia by an ARMENIAN sabotage group? I personally took part in preventing that terrorist attack, if we were even a minute late, they would definitely have blown up because they had already tied the pipes with explosives, and they threw a backpack with detonators nearby - they were frightened off by our helicopters (2 Mi-24 - duty officers from Imishlov and Kurdamir) and they retreated in two Mi-8s to Stepanakert. They overtook them only over the city, so they did not dare to shoot them down, but they sat right in the city ...
                        And how did you react after that?
                        When, for the sake of preventing massacres, the entire Armenian population was already removed from the republic?
                        And in Karabakh, did maroon berets constantly find caches of weapons during raids? My son-in-law was there at that time in the "maroon berets".
                        And my friend was in command of the radio engineering unit in Gindarkh.
                        And I've been there.
                        So you made the whole mess, and the Azerbaijanis reacted.
                        You took over their lands and owned them for almost 30 years.
                        But even to this day they DID NOT RECOGNIZE Karabakh as independent ...
                        What is it like ?
                        If it is yours, then acknowledge it.
                        And fight.
                        YOURSELF!
                        For this is your problem and your concern.
                        But you have lost the war.
                        Even the quote you quoted will show the "US Congress", "UN" and other quirks.
                        If the land is yours, fight.
                        If not, leave.
                        YOURSELF.
                        And do not drag Russia, Iran, or Turkey and Israel into this dump.
                        The same applies to Azerbaijan.
                        Be men, and if you can't agree, go to war.
                        But yourself.
                        Armenians have a large and rich diaspora, and Azerbaijan is a fairly wealthy state and also has a considerable diaspora. Here are the diasporas to help you.
                        And then it came to a form of disgrace - some of the foreign army to themselves called for help and international terrorists, while others just a little - howl raise "Russia save!" , "Iran help".
                        Do you want Turkey and Iran to clash because of you both?
                        What are the Russian troops doing on the border of Karabakh, which the Armenians themselves do not recognize as their own?
                        Protecting the peacekeeper?
                        Who brewed all this?
                        And brought the scoundrel and Russophobe Pashinyan to power?
                        Themselves.
                        All by yourself.
                      10. bayard
                        bayard 6 October 2021 10: 13
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                        Quote: Vlad1
                        And also, according to your version, then all peoples descended from Jews and you too ..

                        laughing
                        And where do these come from ...
                        You are Semites.
                        We are Aryans.
                        Read at your leisure "Avesta" about the origin of peoples.
                        Who are the Aryans.
                        Who are the Dravidians.
                        Who are the Semites.
                        Who are the Chinis.
                        And do not forget to look at the meaning of these words in the Avestan dictionary.
                        Quote: Vlad1
                        learn history

                        Yes
                        Learn history.
                        Learning is light.
                      11. Vlad1
                        Vlad1 6 October 2021 09: 46
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                        And even if you read all sorts of reports of the General Staff type, why didn't you read how many wagons with weapons and ammunition were captured ?? The full trains at the station were ?? And do not drive Gorbachov about a bribe, if he had been given, he would have immediately brought in troops and there would have been no Sumgayit with the massacre
                      12. bayard
                        bayard 6 October 2021 10: 48
                        0
                        Here's a stoned one. No.
                        Quote: Vlad1
                        How many wagons with weapons and ammunition were seized ??

                        In 1990, this was not the case.
                        And in the spring of 1991 I left there. So if there was anything, then already at the end of 1991 - 1992. - Not earlier .
                        After the collapse of the Soviet Union, half of all weapons and supplies were left there - Grachev came to negotiate.
                        As in Armenia.
                        Quote: Vlad1
                        And do not drive Gorbachov about a bribe, if he had been given, he would have immediately brought in troops and there would have been no Sumgayit with the massacre

                        So he immediately brought it in - in 1988, the Ivanovo Airborne Division (like her) was introduced to Sumgait, BMD was placed at intersections.
                        And in 1989, martial law was already introduced in Baku, and armored vehicles were on the streets.
                        And in January 1990, it flared up so that troops from all over the Union had to be brought in - at least four divisions of the Airborne Forces, Vitebsk was then generally subdued by the KGB, 17 helicopter regiments were transferred in one day - he personally conducted my duty. The whole sky is in helicopters.
                        And in Armenia - no martial law, no counter-terrorist operation, no disarmament of militants ... Every day reports on the seizures of the ROVD, DOSAF warehouses (there were Bumblebee jet flamethrowers from somewhere) - complete connivance and patronage of the Armenians.
                        We were very surprised then ... and later it became known why. Deputies of the Supreme Soviet of the RSFSR / RF told me about this - from the Supreme Soviet that Yeltsin shot with tanks.
                      13. Osipov9391
                        Osipov9391 7 October 2021 02: 49
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                        And to me these deputies of the Supreme Soviet shot by Yeltsin once again say such things about Zyuganov that it becomes bad.
                        That in 1991 he was a supporter of the Belovezhskaya agreements;
                        That in 1993 he actually supported Yeltsin in the execution of the Supreme Soviet because he really wanted a new Duma;
                        That in 1996 he won the elections, but gave the victory to Yeltsin even without threats in exchange for a dacha in Bullfinches and other compensation. Although the president could be - the people trusted, in the Duma there was a majority for him;
                        That in 1998 he actually squeezed Rokhlin out of the Duma and sabotaged Yeltsin's impeachment;
                        And also that the materials of Ilyukhin, who died in 2011, were simply thrown away and forgotten at the suggestion of Zyuganov.
                        But even as I wrote the people about him have an extremely negative opinion. They say he became the gravedigger of the Communist Party and the entire left movement - he lost the majority in the Duma, the party has decreased many times and, in general, is being destroyed. But he doesn't care. He flirts with Putin and recognizes elections when his deputies at a rally say the exact opposite.
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        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 11
          -2
          I declared a moratorium on cons a few months ago.
          There was a case. also did. But with the cons, it's more fun. Yes, and somehow they put it to me sadly. but I cannot answer.
          1. Grandfather
            Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 16
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            Quote: Gardamir
            I declared a moratorium on cons a few months ago.
            There was a case. also did. But with the cons, it's more fun. Yes, and somehow they put it to me sadly. but I cannot answer.

            but just "ignore"?
            1. Gardamir
              Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 39
              -1
              but just "ignore"?
              What then to do on the site?
              At first, he argued intensely and collected bans from the moderators. Then he just argued. Then he asked questions. Now I try to communicate with those to whom I put pluses. This is such an evolution.
      2. Nyrobsky
        Nyrobsky 4 October 2021 08: 10
        +8
        Quote: Dead Day
        "fun" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too ... but at least minus yourself to death ...

        Do you think if we had any "Pertsev and Tropinkin", then there would not be such "fun" around us? American, British, Israeli and Turkish "pussies" are not involved at all here?
        I don’t think that these two figures are to blame for all these global movements along our perimeter. But without them, I believe, "merry" would already be on fire inside Russia itself.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 18
          -2
          Quote: Nyrobsky
          Do not think,

          and I think. if Dzhugashvili was a Man of Order, this would not have happened.
          1. Nyrobsky
            Nyrobsky 4 October 2021 10: 52
            +4
            Quote: Dead Day
            Quote: Nyrobsky
            Do not think,

            and I think. if Dzhugashvili was a Man of Order, this would not have happened.

            I doubt it. hi
            During his time, the presence of Dzhugashvili did not prevent Hitler's victorious march across Europe (that is, "fun" on our periphery) and Germany's attack on the USSR.
      3. Flooding
        Flooding 4 October 2021 08: 20
        +3
        Quote: Dead Day
        "jolly" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too.

        what do you mean?
        that Putin and Lavrov are to blame?
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 19
          -1
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: Dead Day
          "jolly" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too.

          what do you mean?
          that Putin and Lavrov are to blame?

          no .. "baba beckoning"
        2. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 24
          -2
          Quote: Flood
          Quote: Dead Day
          "jolly" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too.

          what do you mean?
          that Putin and Lavrov are to blame?

          and hedgehog with them ... otherwise, as you explain, the practical absence (ha..in the presence) of "allies" ... at all.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 4 October 2021 09: 31
            +2
            Quote: Dead Day
            otherwise, as you can explain, there is practically no (ha..available) "allies" ... at all.

            what are these allies in quotation marks?
            sorry, could not understand your idea
            1. Grandfather
              Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 35
              -2
              Quote: Flood
              Quote: Dead Day
              otherwise, as you can explain, there is practically no (ha..available) "allies" ... at all.

              what are these allies in quotation marks?
              sorry, could not understand your idea

              okay .. so: before there were "friends" purchased, and now there are none.
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 4 October 2021 09: 54
                -1
                Quote: Dead Day
                like this: before there were purchased "friends", but now there are none.

                read the forum.
                in what is written here, who is to blame besides ourselves?
                and brothers are not brothers, and friends are not friends
          2. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 4 October 2021 09: 54
            -1
            Quote: Dead Day
            as you will explain, the practical absence (ha..available) of "allies" ... at all.

            Does anyone have them?
        3. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 11
          -1
          Quote: Flood
          what do you mean?
          that Putin and Lavrov are to blame?

          Voice your version.
          1. Flooding
            Flooding 4 October 2021 10: 18
            0
            Quote: Stroporez
            Voice your version

            version of what?
            clarify your request
            1. Sling cutter
              Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 23
              -4
              Quote: Flood
              version of what?
              clarify your request

              What do you not understand? You asked a question to Old
              what do you mean?
              that Putin and Lavrov are to blame?
              So you have your own version of who is to blame, so I asked you to voice it ..
              And you start to flood. sad
              1. Flooding
                Flooding 4 October 2021 10: 29
                0
                Quote: Stroporez
                So you have your own version of who is to blame, so I asked you to voice it ..
                And you start to flood

                That is, you are not able to clarify your question?
                This is understandable, since Dedkastary began to flood, blaming Lavrov and Putin for the relations between Baku and Tehran.
                Quote: Dead Day
                "jolly" around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too.

                I wanted to understand how frightened
                suddenly a person expressed himself inaccurately and wants to clarify
                but then the lawyer Stroporez decided to catch up with the fog even more laughing
                PS
                you have a stance on Putin's surname like a game setter. but then you missed with the Old One. article about something else.
                1. Sling cutter
                  Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 37
                  0
                  Quote: Flood
                  This is understandable, since Dedkastary began to flood, blaming Lavrov and Putin for the relations between Baku and Tehran.

                  As far as I understand, Dedka had in mind a failed foreign policy for 20 years, and the President and the Ministry of Foreign Affairs are responsible for it. I support Grandpa in this and consider both foreign and domestic policies to be fatal for the country and the people ..
                  And secondly, the lawyer's name was Dick laughing
                  1. Flooding
                    Flooding 4 October 2021 10: 44
                    +1
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    a failed foreign policy for 20 years, and the president and the foreign ministry are responsible for it

                    how do you understand that?
                    and which countries from the list of potential allies Lavrov mediocrely missed?
                    Iran? Turkey? Azerbaijan? Pakistan?
                    1. Sling cutter
                      Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 50
                      -1
                      Quote: Flood
                      and which countries from the list of potential allies Lavrov mediocrely missed?

                      Listen, well, stop grimacing and flooding in vain, but just look at the map of the USSR, cut off the republics from there and tell yourself which of them are our FRIENDS.
                      Tighten yourself, colleague, think, but I don’t get fancy for the bukavy, what would you "chew". bully
                      1. Flooding
                        Flooding 4 October 2021 10: 56
                        +1
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Listen, well, stop grimacing and flooding in vain

                        I ask you and the Old one to stop fooling around
                        I asked you specific questions twice
                        if you are not able to answer them, then this does not give you the right to accuse me of flooding
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Tighten yourself, colleague, think, amne for beetles is not flesh, what would you "chew"

                        take care of your chewing apparatus
                        and turn on the thinking apparatus
                    2. Momento
                      Momento 6 October 2021 16: 23
                      0
                      Azerbaijan, Georgia, Armenia and Ukraine) now it looks like Moldova. still obviously Uzbekistan.
                      Of all this, only Georgia was perhaps a foregone conclusion - the rest is the merit of the quietest.
      4. Gardamir
        Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 13
        -1
        but at least minus yourself to death ...
        At least one example, where Lavrov is a fine fellow, well, except for the case when he squeezed Magnet from Galitsky.
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 26
          -2
          Quote: Gardamir
          , well, except for the case when he squeezed the Magnet from Galitsky.

          well this is .. a cool move ..
          1. Gardamir
            Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 54
            -1
            steep move
            Alas, I did not notice any success in foreign policy.
        2. Sling cutter
          Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 13
          -2
          He tried for his son-in-law, and the young mistress must be provided on a Kostya scale Yes
      5. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 10
        0
        Quote: Dead Day
        jolly "around us ... Lavrov is great ... and Putin too ... but at least minus yourself to death ...

        The most "greatest" figures of our time wink It is curious what they will talk about and write about in textbooks when they finally die. laughing
    2. Bat
      Bat 4 October 2021 09: 48
      0
      Quote: Thrifty
      You can understand the Persians, the Turks in the region are beginning to farm

      Let's call a spade a spade correctly. Turkey in the region helps its own people and does not manage. I understand that it is difficult for you to understand fraternal and friendly relations. Russia's best ally is its army and navy. It's right. Therefore, you have no friends even in fraternal countries. Ukraine and the milk war with Belarus confirm this. And Turkey in the region helps to return the ancestral lands to the fraternal people in the person of Azerbaijan to return its occupied territories, where the internationally recognized territory is where your signature is also. In Iraq, he saves a Turkoman and fights those terrorists like the PKK. In Syria, not only does a million Syrian mouths feed, but also saves the Turkomans from the hands of Assad. This is exactly the same as you in Ossetia helped those who have Russian passports, Donbas and so on ... The difference? Moreover, this pseudo-hypocritical Iran helps those who fight against Turkey in Syria, and oppresses their other brother in Karabakh.

      Quote: Thrifty
      Therefore, the Persians do not want the strengthening of Turkey, which may lead to the loss of the part of their country by the Persians inhabited by ethnic Azerbaijanis.

      Quite right. Therefore, it is very unprofitable for Iran to start a war against Azerbaijan, many are waiting for a reason. And Iran, the Persians are the closest friends of Armenians, see how the aliens, terminators, igils, CIA, Tsakhal, Pakistan sang the same mantra on the theme instead of Azerbaijanis))))))) Do not exaggerate the importance of the Armenian army. They are not equal to Azerbaijan. And if all these would have fought for us, then in 44 days they would have returned Iravan, not like Karabakh.
    3. Terenin
      Terenin 5 October 2021 06: 48
      +2
      Iranian general: Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters appeared in Azerbaijan during the war for Karabakh

      Even without the Iranian general I know that, for example, during an international chess tournament, chess players from all over the world appear there for some reason. request
    4. xASPIDx
      xASPIDx 5 October 2021 22: 52
      0
      Ethnic Azerbaijanis said that there is no need to pull the tiger by the tail, so they don’t need the Turks for nothing.
    5. Momento
      Momento 6 October 2021 16: 53
      +1
      the Persians themselves are pushing Azerbaijan into the hands of Turkey and towards cooperation with Israel. if they do not attack (and I think they will) then they have lost.
  2. Primipilus
    Primipilus 4 October 2021 07: 35
    0
    And what will happen if Iran does get a nuclear weapon? Baku is not to be envied.
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 4 October 2021 07: 54
      -5
      And what will happen if Iran does get a nuclear weapon? Baku is not to be envied.

      Oh, unfortunately you will not envy many.

      But, my question is different - many on the site are drowning for Iran and my questions sound like this:
      1. How can Iran acquire nuclear weapons if it is stated at the highest international level and at the governmental level that Iran is fighting for its complete destruction, is not interested in it and is not engaged in its development?

      2. How can Iran acquire nuclear weapons if the Rahbar himself declares the sinfulness of both this type of weapon and the possession of it ????


      And these are ardent true (inveterate) Muslims?
      Is this a state you can trust?
      Or is it a companion in misfortune?
      Or are they ordinary cynics?
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 31
        +1
        Quote: VyacheSeymour
        And what will happen if Iran does get a nuclear weapon? Baku is not to be envied.

        Oh, unfortunately you will not envy many.

        But, my question is different - many on the site are drowning for Iran and my questions sound like this:
        1. How can Iran acquire nuclear weapons if it is stated at the highest international level and at the governmental level that Iran is fighting for its complete destruction, is not interested in it and is not engaged in its development?

        2. How can Iran acquire nuclear weapons if the Rahbar himself declares the sinfulness of both this type of weapon and the possession of it ????


        And these are ardent true (inveterate) Muslims?
        Is this a state you can trust?
        Or is it a companion in misfortune?
        Or are they ordinary cynics?

        here is Eun, owns, and even the "carriers of crap" have fallen behind ... they feel the power.
        1. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 4 October 2021 10: 18
          -1
          here is Eun, owns, and even the "carriers of crap" lagged behind ...feel the power

          Or maybe everything is simpler - "do not touch the de.mo will not stink" - will dry up by itself?
      2. Bat
        Bat 4 October 2021 10: 07
        -6
        Quote: VyacheSeymour
        And these are ardent true (inveterate) Muslims?

        The answer to your question is in the scriptures for Muslims as hadith. One hadith says that if a Muslim encroaches on the life of another Muslim or on his property, then they will not even hear the Rice scent. That is, Iran, helping the Armenians, without the permission of Baku, transported goods for various purposes without the permission of another Muslim country, swooping down on its property, and also with these on the border, it sows on the lives of other Muslims. From this we can already conclude what they are. They help those who keep pigs in the Muslim mosque. Parasites in all respects fall on the fact that they can not be punched in the most. They are like the Armenian radio, the reality is one in the words of another. The Armenians here ........ do not recognize what they signed themselves, and the jokes about them did not just appear. And those who help Azerbaijan against Iran understand and firmly know what a good deed they are doing. For the right topic!
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 20
      -2
      Quote: Primipilus
      And what will happen if Iran does get a nuclear weapon? Baku is not to be envied.

      Eun, as it is not scattered around them, and no one rock the boat.
    3. Bat
      Bat 4 October 2021 09: 59
      -4
      Quote: Primipilus
      And what will happen if Iran does get a nuclear weapon? Baku is not to be envied.

      Believe me, you will envy. Do you think Iran will throw an atomic bomb on a neighboring country and turn half of its country into Chernoble?))))))))
      1. Primipilus
        Primipilus 4 October 2021 10: 43
        -2
        If Iran has no other choice (the question of the existence of Iran wakes up), then this is exactly what they will do. Allahu Akbar! and loudly slam the door, lastly.
  3. askort154
    askort154 4 October 2021 07: 36
    +6
    Azeibarjan lived quietly, peacefully, was engaged in trade, did not climb into the big world politics. And suddenly he turned his back on Russia towards Turkey and Israel. Now his new "friends" will be used as a springboard against Iran, and Erdogan for penetration into Central Asia. Aliyev is used in the dark. He wanted independence from Russia, but ended up in the "six".
    1. Evil543
      Evil543 4 October 2021 08: 32
      +4
      An investigation has been released about the offshores of the top, the Aliyev family is there. Will the scandal be interesting?
      1. Tzar
        Tzar 4 October 2021 09: 12
        +2
        Surely after the return of Karabakh, his country has immunity from such investigations, everyone will forgive ...
      2. Grandfather
        Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 22
        0
        Quote: Evil543
        An investigation was released about the offshores of the tops,

        any "investigation" is fraught with the fact that you can get out on yourself ...
      3. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 October 2021 09: 59
        0
        Quote: Evil543
        An investigation has been released about the offshores of the top, the Aliyev family is there. Will the scandal be interesting?

        If only a suicide, make a scandal.
      4. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 17
        +1
        Quote: Evil543
        An investigation has been released about the offshores of the top, the Aliyev family is there. Will the scandal be interesting?

        In this investigation, there is a lot about ours, for example, Kostya Ernst is involved in a project to demolish Soviet cinemas and build trade centers in their place. His share is 60 lard.
        Will we have a scandal?
    2. Tank hard
      Tank hard 4 October 2021 08: 42
      +3
      Quote: askort154
      Azeibarjan lived quietly, peacefully, was engaged in trade, did not climb into the big world politics. And suddenly he turned his back on Russia towards Turkey and Israel. Now his new "friends" will be used as a springboard against Iran, and Erdogan for penetration into Central Asia. Aliyev is used in the dark. He wanted independence from Russia, but ended up in the "six

      Virtually none of the states that emerged after the collapse of the USSR is independent and independent in fact. Only in words and on paper.
      1. Grandfather
        Grandfather 4 October 2021 09: 36
        -1
        Quote: Tank Hard
        Quote: askort154
        Azeibarjan lived quietly, peacefully, was engaged in trade, did not climb into the big world politics. And suddenly he turned his back on Russia towards Turkey and Israel. Now his new "friends" will be used as a springboard against Iran, and Erdogan for penetration into Central Asia. Aliyev is used in the dark. He wanted independence from Russia, but ended up in the "six

        Virtually none of the states that emerged after the collapse of the USSR is independent and independent in fact. Only in words and on paper.

        that is yes.
        1. Tank hard
          Tank hard 5 October 2021 09: 18
          0
          Quote: Dead Day
          that is yes.

          Moreover, shouting about their independence, they want to give up it with all their might, now they want to become Turkey, now Turan, now part of the European Union. Shouting about freedom, they immediately want to try on a new collar on their neck.
    3. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 18
      -3
      He wanted independence from Russia, but ended up in the "six".
      good
      1. Rusticolus
        Rusticolus 4 October 2021 13: 32
        -3
        Quote: Gardamir
        He wanted independence from Russia, but ended up in the "six".
        good
        And I would also add "six-pointed". Where is this world going? Muslims are already six among the Jews. Didn't they themselves get lost?
  4. knn54
    knn54 4 October 2021 07: 38
    +8
    Earlier (in the Middle Ages) both in the Caucasus and Turkey, Azerbaijanis and Persians were considered one people.
    They became Turkish brothers at the beginning of the last century with the light hand of the ideologists of the pro-Turkish Musavat party.
    About 1500 (+/-) militants from Syria (a joint operation of the British MI6 and Turkey) has been known for a long time.
  5. Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 4 October 2021 08: 09
    0
    Iranian brigadier general of the IRGC Heydari declares ....
    They are all there "riders galloping in front" feel (Heydar Aliyev)
    Iranian general: Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters appeared in Azerbaijan during the war for Karabakh
    Roll out Azerov into a thin pancake so that the Turks are not dragged to the Caspian Sea. angry
    1. Gardamir
      Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 19
      +1
      Roll out Azerov into a thin pancake,
      Yes, they do not care, so half of Azerbaijan is in Moscow.
      1. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 4 October 2021 10: 19
        +3
        Quote: Gardamir
        Yes, they do not care, so half of Azerbaijan is in Moscow.

        One of them studied with our chief superintendent, the second chief scout goes to take a steam bath.
        By the way, there will be maybe more Armenians, ethnic Ara laurels.
  6. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 October 2021 08: 17
    +10
    The fact that the parties exchange accusations against each other is not surprising. Nor is it surprising that Israel is interested in tensions on the Iranian border. And Azerbaijan, with the maximum support of Turkey, sympathy and the supply of weapons by Israel, inspired by the victory in Karabakh, begins to lose its sense of proportion, entering into a conflict with Iran. This is even noticeable in the comments on the website of the Azerbaijanis. The most active of them repeatedly wrote "the whole world is with us, and who is with you? We are not Georgians and will defeat everyone ..." "and in the same spirit.
    1. Karos
      Karos 4 October 2021 09: 31
      +3
      What should he do? Sag under all? Iran all the time tried to rule Azerbaijan, split it into 2 parts several centuries ago. And for the past 30 years, it has been trying to manage the processes inside Azerbaijan with the help of its Shiite branches. A good part of the Iranian population has apartments in Baku in case there is a war with Israel in Iran.
      And if there is a war with Iran, it will be bad for everyone, both for Azerbaijan and Iran and Turkey. Of course, the first blow will be taken by Azerbaijan and the victims will not be avoided, but subsequently, no one will allow Iran to annex another country (except for Armenia, which, if it gets involved in a war on the side of Iran, may subsequently lose the border with Iran) and this will be a pretext for the enemies of Iran to attack it and then split it. It's no secret that like in Turkey, Syria and Iraq there is a region of compact residence of Kurds, and they will raise their heads. There is a region where the ethnic majority is Azerbaijanis, who have wanted independence for many years but their revolt is brutally suppressed. Farces, though fanatical, are still not fools, they know how to weigh everything. They perfectly understand that they will have to fight on several fronts at once. There are open players here, such as Turkey, Pakistan (it will most likely declare war on Iran before Turkey), Israel, as well as distant haters and sworn enemies of Iran, such as some Arab and European countries.
      There is the Russian factor, which perfectly understands that if Iran attacks Azerbaijan, then the United States will inevitably get involved in the process under the pretext of protecting itself from the aggressor, but in reality, to place its bases closer to the borders of Russia, that Russia will not allow any cases and will strive for peaceful destruction situations.
      There are great interests of England as it is the main operator of oil production and distillation in this region, which will protect its interests, and also want to increase the volume by rejecting the region of Iran, which is filled with oil, in which the ethnic majority is Azerbaijanis.
      China will be in a very slippery position as it is one of the main importers of Iranian oil but also a strategic ally of Pakistan. He will have to choose between money and national interests.
      The bottom line is that everyone will scream with their fingers and scatter, but at the same time losing not small resources for military maneuvers.
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 4 October 2021 08: 19
    +3
    Iranian general: Israeli proxies and ISIS fighters appeared in Azerbaijan during the war for Karabakh
    In general, EXPECTED! Any noticeable conflict, and around it they will stir up so much !!! do not understand ... although, who will understand there?
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 October 2021 09: 04
      +3
      Uh-huh, and it's enough to muddy those who want to ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 October 2021 09: 07
        +1
        So catching a fish in troubled water, those who wish do not diminish ... alas, alas.
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 October 2021 09: 19
          +3
          And this process is increasingly moving to our borders and areas of interest ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 October 2021 10: 00
            +2
            We have our own problems, but the local, most distant, problems are not bypassed either.
  8. riwas
    riwas 4 October 2021 08: 35
    +2
    Big politics. Maybe Azerbaijan was planted on Iran to distract it from the impending strike from Israel and the United States.
    1. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 4 October 2021 14: 57
      -1
      Big politics. Maybe Azerbaijan was planted on Iran to distract it from the impending strike from Israel and the United States.
      Reply

      Amers now have no time for Iran at all, they have an eternally sleeping Baidun, and an internal split between the vaccinated and the unvaccinated
  9. cniza
    cniza 4 October 2021 09: 03
    +4
    Meanwhile, the spiritual leader of Iran, Ali Khamenei, noted that the dispute between Tehran and Baku must be resolved without the intervention of third forces.


    But there are more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself ...
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 October 2021 10: 06
      0
      Quote: cniza
      But there are more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself ...

      And there are quite a few Iranians in Azerbaijan.
      1. Suleiman
        Suleiman 4 October 2021 10: 28
        0
        There is no such nation "Iranians". There are Persians, Azerbaijanis (Turks), Turkmens (Turks), Qashqai (Turks), Talysh, Arabs, Kurds, Baluchis, etc.
        1. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 4 October 2021 10: 51
          0
          Quote: Suleyman
          There are Persians, Azerbaijanis (Turks),

          I do not mind, let there be Persians, I have not even heard of people like Qashqai and Talysh.
          Thank you for correcting.
        2. Gardamir
          Gardamir 4 October 2021 13: 47
          -1
          There is no such nation "Iranians"
          If we agree with you, then there are no Chinese, Dagestanis, Georgians.
    2. Petro_tut
      Petro_tut 4 October 2021 15: 04
      0

      But there are more Azerbaijanis living in Iran than in Azerbaijan itself ...

      Are not the Caspian Turks living in arzeibadzhan? The sultan himself said - two countries are one people .... Yes, in the Republic of Ingushetia they called the Transcaucasian Tatars.
      In the USSR, there was a project to reject Northern Iran in favor of the USSR, and therefore the Baku province was renamed Arzeibajan ... Something like this ...
  10. YaWMa
    YaWMa 4 October 2021 09: 04
    0
    Almost a year has passed since the end of the anti-terrorist operation in Karabakh, and how some people are still burning. wassat Among the especially burning ones is Iran, a colossus with feet of clay.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 4 October 2021 10: 52
      +3
      Quote: YaWMa
      Among the especially burning ones is Iran, a colossus with feet of clay.

      But now, for more than 2000 years, this colossus does not fall.
    2. Tony fergusson
      Tony fergusson 5 October 2021 00: 41
      -3
      Incorrect reasoning
      Iran, even the US does not risk attacking
      1. outsider
        outsider 5 October 2021 08: 22
        -2
        - With today's crappy leadership, they only "attack" someone ... am
  11. Teador
    Teador 4 October 2021 09: 27
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    Privalov, are you a pacifist of the militaristic site - Military Review? wassat Some people do not know how to perceive victories and achievements normally, it was necessary to be savage, it was necessary to incite the Armenians, etc. And the robbery and extortions of heavy trucks led to the brink of war. The trouble came from where they did not expect, Aliyev is under the threat of Iranian proxies. They know how to do this, and the Kudsites are probably well represented in Azerbaijan. The prognosis is unfavorable. Perhaps it will not come to direct clashes, but the Iranians will conduct special operations, do not go to the fortuneteller.

    Iranians have a special operation? So far, the Jews are conducting special operations against Iran. Recently, a secret missile production plant in Iran was covered AND IRAN HAS DID EXCEPT AS BALVANKI HUSIT HAZBBALAH DA HAMASU IS DISTRIBUTING
    1. VyacheSeymour
      VyacheSeymour 4 October 2021 15: 17
      +5
      AND IRAN HAS DONE BUT AS BALWANKI TO HUSIT HAZBALAH DA HAMASU IS DISTRIBUTING

      Iran has done a lot ...
      From year to year it continues to degrade:

      From the gigemon of the Shah region of Iran, before which many countries flirted and sought friendship, including Israel, it turned into an outcast not only of the region, but globally.

      With the last bit of strength trying to create some kind of semblance
      a friendly circle, but apart from the scattered Iraqi Shiite groups, giving away Assad and the Hezbolons, Houthis and others like them, he cannot collect anything more or less decent ...
      Spends the last resources not on the development of the country,
      but on ambitious projects and programs and content
      their proteges ...
      Shah's SAVAK-thunderstorm of the region has degraded so much that it has absolutely no control over the situation.
      Scientists, military people, both people and objects are being destroyed with impunity!
      He devoured and ruined the shah's rich heritage ...
      The people are becoming impoverished. Medicine and science in full.
      Far from technical development - the oil and gas producing country lacks
      electric power, gasoline, cement, ... due to the inability to commission new capacities.
      They turned the country into a besieged fortress - spies, internal enemies, external enemies are to blame for everything
      and all kinds of third forces ...

      Iran is slowly leaving for an unfamiliar nation
      position - the periphery of civilization, a god-forsaken country. That's the rocker trying to bring himself by any means on the covers of the tabloids.
      So he rattles his arms in the hope that he will be remembered and maybe someone will sit down with him at the negotiating table. So it is with the current situation - they will make some noise, rattle with old stuff and declare that they have shown everyone their place to creep into their places of deployment without unnecessary noise.
      If everything is so serious, why is Baku so calm. Only the trepology of the dominated Iranian henchmen is heard ??? - everything for internal consumption.
      1. Tony fergusson
        Tony fergusson 5 October 2021 00: 42
        0
        Closest friend - China
        Learn materiel
        1. VyacheSeymour
          VyacheSeymour 5 October 2021 08: 27
          0
          Closest friend - China
          Learn materiel

          Name at least one friend of China from three times.
          So you're right - Teach materiel!
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  12. spectr
    spectr 4 October 2021 14: 09
    +1
    It's funny. As soon as the Taliban settled down, so immediately the conflict on the border with Iran. And if they bring the game to the end, then they will be handsome, tk. Azerbaijanis, Taliban and Jews will get into the conflict, and the Turks will skim the cream.
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  14. Borisych
    Borisych 5 October 2021 15: 23
    +1
    Israel receives 40 percent of its oil from Azerbaijan, Aliyev has long and close friendships with the Israeli military-industrial complex - radars, drones, etc. Mountain Jews in Azerbaijan have not gone anywhere. The question of a strike from Afghanistan on Iran has been discussed by the Americans and the Israelis for a long time. Iran's concern is understandable, given the dream of a united Azerbaijan among Azeri politicians. It is better for the Turks not to get into this mess, for Erdogan it would be the last stupidity he did - he would be killed purely physically, all the cases. It will be interesting for Russia to watch the fuss in this bank. Let them figure it out for themselves, it will not come to war, but some will have to walk with their heads under their arms, the Persians did not get them like that, they are no stranger to it.
  15. Scorpio05
    Scorpio05 6 October 2021 14: 14
    +1
    Quote: von_Tilsit
    Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowed And whoever did not do it, was responsible to the friendly family of the peoples of the USSR in accordance with the law of wartime. And then there was the decision of Azerbaijan to secede from the USSR. So what can be "brotherly pamagy, listen" now? Previously, it was necessary to think. Russia has its own interest in the Caucasus region and it does not coincide with the interests of your Ottoman brother, alas.

    Guys, sometimes just remember how Azerbaijan got to the USSR and that's enough. If it is difficult, give a search: Invasion of the 11th Red Army in Azerbaijan.
  16. Shahno
    Shahno 6 October 2021 14: 18
    0
    Quote: Scorpio05
    Quote: von_Tilsit
    Doooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooooowed And whoever did not do it, was responsible to the friendly family of the peoples of the USSR in accordance with the law of wartime. And then there was the decision of Azerbaijan to secede from the USSR. So what can be "brotherly pamagy, listen" now? Previously, it was necessary to think. Russia has its own interest in the Caucasus region and it does not coincide with the interests of your Ottoman brother, alas.

    Guys, sometimes just remember how Azerbaijan got to the USSR and that's enough. If it is difficult, give a search: Invasion of the 11th Red Army in Azerbaijan.

    I still do not understand who the Israeli proxies are.
    Azerbaijanis, Turks .. Yes, this is a recognition of merit, not otherwise.
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  18. Boxer
    Boxer 6 October 2021 14: 38
    +1
    Quote: hrych
    I didn’t say that exactly in a month wassat Don't fantasize. Of course, years will pass and Azerbaijan will be divided between Russia and Iran. Aliyev gave up, quarreling with Iran was complete stupidity. And he will definitely pay for it, together with the citizens of the country. Erdogan tried to avoid quarrels with Iran, because he knows that it is a powerful, regional power with a powerful missile potential. Erdogan fell out with Egypt, fell out with Israel, fell out with Greece, fell out with Saudi Arabia, and if he now gets into a fight with Iran, it will go nuts. Do not flatter yourself with Pakistan, now Iran and Pakistan are the main friends. In 2013, the BBC World Service Poll conducted a poll in Pakistan, which found that 76% of Pakistanis assess Iran's policies positively. This makes Pakistan the most pro-Iranian country in the world. I do not even doubt that for insulting Macron, the latter gave the task to the excellent French special services to solve the Erdogan problem. Washington is also dissatisfied with it. The cells of the Gulenists did not disappear anywhere, unless they went underground. When I see him, I see the doomed.

    For you, in terms of distance, which is closer to Sklif or Kashchenko?
  19. Boxer
    Boxer 6 October 2021 15: 07
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    They are now dizzy with success, so they are losing their shores. They do not understand that they have already become a puppet in Turkish games. Very risky games.
    And the reason for their success in the war with the Armenians in Karabakh (the latter) is not fully understood.
    And the consequences to which they are led.
    The Armenians had to bear responsibility for all their crimes and encroachments, especially since this conflict began several months earlier - with the provocations of the Armenians on the border with Azerbaijan, but not in Karabakh, but near the strategic pipeline to Turkey. Pashinyan put himself under the conflict in every possible way and did nothing, not only to settle the matter peacefully, but did not even prepare the country for war. In fact, he was a direct accomplice to Azerbaijan in the return of Karabakh.
    And Russia, which for so many years has not been able to convince Armenia not only to return at least the disputed territories that are not part of N. Karabakh, but also simply to force these savages to behave decently, decided to wash its hands and wait for the issue to be resolved by force of arms.
    And Azerbaijan bought weapons, incl. in the RF.
    Now the military, political and moral collapse of splintered Armenia has become a natural result of her behavior. Remember how they behaved towards Russia during the war itself.
    So by bringing the line of demarcation between the parties in line with the zone of residence of the Karabakh Armenians, the conflict resolved a long-standing dispute. And Russia intervened and stopped him.
    But the Azerbaijanis decided that they themselves had achieved everything ... and lost their heads - they are sliding more and more from good-neighborliness to confrontation with their strong neighbors.
    But this is fraught.
    It's just that Azerbaijan is a very young state that did not exist before 1992. They have always been either an Iranian province or a province of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
    And now they are not only daring to their neighbors and former metropolises, but also attract the military infrastructure of unfriendly or directly hostile states to their territory.
    And Iran reacts in this way quite justifiably - a few years ago Azerbaijan intended to provide Israel with jump airfields for the possibility of bombing Iran from the flight ... in both directions. And in Iran it is remembered.
    And Azerbaijan emphasizes this in every possible way, and its representatives on our website regularly declare their intention to create a coalition against Iran ... and the seizure of the so-called. South, West and even East Azerbaijan.
    This is madness ?
    Dizzy from the gift of victory?
    Or a sophisticated method of suicide?
    After all, neither Iran nor Russia makes claims to Azerbaijan ... It does not build intrigues for it ... it does not encroach on land and property ...
    But Azerbaijan is behaving exactly as Armenia behaved on the eve and especially after the seizure of Azerbaijani territories.
    I well remember that card from the ID of the killed Dashnak - "Great Armenia" No. from ... Beirut to Baku ... Azerbaijanis also remember her well.
    And then I served there.
    And now the situation is exactly mirror-like - already Azerbaijan and Turkey declare their intention to liquidate Armenia and return their historical name Irivan to their capital Yerevan ...

    Quote: Yarasa
    Iran asked yesterday to solve this problem through diplomacy. And in response, tomorrow or today, ours will begin the exercises. Do not belittle the importance of Aliyev,

    Is it schizophrenia?
    Iran invites you to resolve the issue through diplomacy, and do you respond with exercises?
    Iran at least moves its own troops on its territory, and you?
    Whose troops and capabilities do you trump with?
    Turkish?
    Pakistani?
    Israeli?
    Saudi?
    Are you sure that they will shed blood for you?
    For your nonsense, arrogance and disrespect for your neighbors?
    And just don't drag the Armenians here - nobody cares about them at all today. Now you are running into conflict - consciously and consistently.
    Are you aware of this?
    And the consequences of this conflict?
    Consequences for your statehood?
    Are you sure you have succeeded as a state?

    Dear Old Grandfather, I’m not for you anymore. hi

    You have several conceptual mistakes, I would not like to associate them with ignorance, rather with great-power arrogance (it would have been understandable in the days of the USSR)
    1. The Azerbaijan Democratic Republic existed in 1918-1920, this is an indisputable physical and political fact. Before that, historically, there were several independent states of Azerbaijanis, moreover powerful ones, but it was precisely in the modern political and legal concept of the state that there was no state. Apart from the fact that all the lands (and beyond) now known as Iran were ruled by the Azerbaijani dynasties and the military-feudal nobility, replacing each other for almost 1000 years.
    2. There are facts that, as you wrote: "Are they attracting the military infrastructure of unfriendly or directly hostile states to their territory?" I don’t want to call it sabotage. For you, any statement of the Iranian bureaucrats are indisputable truths at the level of axioms for you? Is there a dock for the alleged provision of airfields to Israel? Do you pass off your (or Iranian) assumptions as a fait accompli or the ultimate truth?
  20. Boxer
    Boxer 6 October 2021 15: 18
    +1
    Quote: bayard
    They are now dizzy with success, so they are losing their shores. They do not understand that they have already become a puppet in Turkish games. Very risky games.
    And the reason for their success in the war with the Armenians in Karabakh (the latter) is not fully understood.
    And the consequences to which they are led.
    The Armenians had to bear responsibility for all their crimes and encroachments, especially since this conflict began several months earlier - with the provocations of the Armenians on the border with Azerbaijan, but not in Karabakh, but near the strategic pipeline to Turkey. Pashinyan put himself under the conflict in every possible way and did nothing, not only to settle the matter peacefully, but did not even prepare the country for war. In fact, he was a direct accomplice to Azerbaijan in the return of Karabakh.
    And Russia, which for so many years has not been able to convince Armenia not only to return at least the disputed territories that are not part of N. Karabakh, but also simply to force these savages to behave decently, decided to wash its hands and wait for the issue to be resolved by force of arms.
    And Azerbaijan bought weapons, incl. in the RF.
    Now the military, political and moral collapse of splintered Armenia has become a natural result of her behavior. Remember how they behaved towards Russia during the war itself.
    So by bringing the line of demarcation between the parties in line with the zone of residence of the Karabakh Armenians, the conflict resolved a long-standing dispute. And Russia intervened and stopped him.
    But the Azerbaijanis decided that they themselves had achieved everything ... and lost their heads - they are sliding more and more from good-neighborliness to confrontation with their strong neighbors.
    But this is fraught.
    It's just that Azerbaijan is a very young state that did not exist before 1992. They have always been either an Iranian province or a province of the Republic of Ingushetia and the USSR.
    And now they are not only daring to their neighbors and former metropolises, but also attract the military infrastructure of unfriendly or directly hostile states to their territory.
    And Iran reacts in this way quite justifiably - a few years ago Azerbaijan intended to provide Israel with jump airfields for the possibility of bombing Iran from the flight ... in both directions. And in Iran it is remembered.
    And Azerbaijan emphasizes this in every possible way, and its representatives on our website regularly declare their intention to create a coalition against Iran ... and the seizure of the so-called. South, West and even East Azerbaijan.
    This is madness ?
    Dizzy from the gift of victory?
    Or a sophisticated method of suicide?
    After all, neither Iran nor Russia makes claims to Azerbaijan ... It does not build intrigues for it ... it does not encroach on land and property ...
    But Azerbaijan is behaving exactly as Armenia behaved on the eve and especially after the seizure of Azerbaijani territories.
    I well remember that card from the ID of the killed Dashnak - "Great Armenia" No. from ... Beirut to Baku ... Azerbaijanis also remember her well.
    And then I served there.
    And now the situation is exactly mirror-like - already Azerbaijan and Turkey declare their intention to liquidate Armenia and return their historical name Irivan to their capital Yerevan ...

    Quote: Yarasa
    Iran asked yesterday to solve this problem through diplomacy. And in response, tomorrow or today, ours will begin the exercises. Do not belittle the importance of Aliyev,

    Is it schizophrenia?
    Iran invites you to resolve the issue through diplomacy, and do you respond with exercises?
    Iran at least moves its own troops on its territory, and you?
    Whose troops and capabilities do you trump with?
    Turkish?
    Pakistani?
    Israeli?
    Saudi?
    Are you sure that they will shed blood for you?
    For your nonsense, arrogance and disrespect for your neighbors?
    And just don't drag the Armenians here - nobody cares about them at all today. Now you are running into conflict - consciously and consistently.
    Are you aware of this?
    And the consequences of this conflict?
    Consequences for your statehood?
    Are you sure you have succeeded as a state?

    Dear Old Grandfather, I’m not for you anymore. hi

    You have several conceptual mistakes. I would not like to call it ignorance, rather great-power arrogance, a kind of snobbery.
    1. The Azerbaijan Democratic Republic existed in 1918-20. This is an undeniable physical and political fact. Before that, there were independent powerful Azerbaijani states, but in the modern political and legal sense, it is difficult to call them states, like all states of that time.
    2. I'm just wondering, are the statements of the Iranian bureaucrats and your assumptions the ultimate truth? I am ashamed to ask you for a document saying that Azerbaijan "is attracting the military infrastructure of unfriendly or directly hostile states to its territory." It looks like sabotage, but I will not jump to conclusions. Also interesting, where did you see the intention to present the airfields to Israel? Are there facts or as always? I would like (very much) to receive from the original source the text of the statement that "Azerbaijan and Turkey declare their intention to liquidate Armenia and return the historical name of Irivan)) Where do you get this game at all? I think there is no need to comment on your other pearls. Although ...
    3. And by whose capabilities does Syria, for example, "trump"? Who was Armenia hiding behind with impunity (at first) shelling residential areas of Azerbaijani cities (Ganja, Mingachevir and the local state district power station, Barda, and even the suburbs of Baku) far from Karabakh from powerful and long-range missile weapons? Whose opportunities did the Warsaw Pact countries use? Bulgaria, for example, in a conflict with Turkey. And why do you call the word "trump" the legal right of Azerbaijan to defend itself and its population by all legitimate means (including with the help of allies) against the boorish bullshit of a neighbor 10 times more in all respects? And the Iranians were the first to announce the exercises in response to border guards. and customs control of Iranian trucks in the azerbaijani territory.
    4. What do you call "running into a conflict" - to demand that Iranian trucks go through Azerbaijani customs and border control when crossing the Azerbaijani border? Or maybe a demand to stop supplying Armenian military units on Azerbaijani territory (Karabakh)? Do you have any other idea of ​​going through border and customs control when crossing the Russian border?
    5. Why such arrogance?) Are you sure that Syria, and half (I will not name them) of the states of Eurasia took place as states in their current form, incl. Armenia, and even Iran? Go there somehow, your eyes will open to many things. No need to force a hedgehog on the globe) Compared to all of them, Azerbaijan is an example of an established state.