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Japanese press: New prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of islands from a position of strength

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A new prime minister took office in Japan. We are talking about the former Acting Minister of Defense and the former Foreign Minister of Japan Fumio Kishida. As head of the Cabinet of Ministers, this figure replaced Yoshihide Suga, who himself asked fellow party members to resign from his post (as well as from the post of general secretary of the ruling party - Liberal Democratic).


For Russia, naturally, the attitude of Fumio Kishida to our country is important. This attitude is characterized by the Japanese media. In particular, it is noted that Kishida has recently expressed open dissatisfaction with the way the negotiation process on the South Kurils is going. Recall that in Tokyo, these islands continue to be considered their property, calling them "northern territories".

Not long ago, Kishida, during a debate before the election of a party leader, stated the following:

My task is to return all four islands to the jurisdiction of Japan.

In Japan itself, this position was called “bold” and even “radical”, recalling that at one time Prime Minister Shinzo Abe “agreed” to return two islands of the Kuril ridge - Shikotan Island and the uninhabited Habomai archipelago.

The Japanese press indicates that Kishida does not want to conduct diplomacy of "exclusive reconciliation on the island issue." It is added that the new prime minister of Japan intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the Kuril Islands from a "position of strength." At the same time, it is specified that Kishida himself did not say a word about Russia in his speech. He declared his intention "to protect the national interests and territorial integrity of Japan with all his might." Already from this statement in the publication "Hokkaido" concluded that Fumio Kishida "will also defend territorial integrity in terms of demands from Russia to transfer" the South Kuriles - "from a position of strength." What kind of power the new Japanese prime minister is going to demonstrate is not reported.

Let's remind that earlier one of the Japanese prime ministers - Shinzo Abe - at the grave of his father vowed to "resolve the issue" of the islands. I wonder if Abe is remembering his vow now? Or for a politician, this is an empty phrase - today I swore, but tomorrow I can forget ...
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  1. knn54
    knn54 4 October 2021 06: 36
    +12
    Solve the unsolvable.
    1. Terenin
      Terenin 4 October 2021 06: 43
      +16
      Quote: knn54
      Solve the unsolvable.

      My task is to return all four islands to the jurisdiction of Japan.

      Kishida, if you're such a smart guy, then rewrite our Constitution and ... put it under your zinc zinc.
      1. The black
        The black 4 October 2021 07: 13
        +44
        On the slopes of Fuji
        Horseradish bloomed
        Not to be seen by the Japanese
        Kuriles laughing
        1. The black
          The black 4 October 2021 07: 15
          +28
          Russia will never give up the Kuril Islands - this is the most important strategic foothold. The South Kuriles are a convenient sea gateway connecting Russia with the World Ocean. If these islands go to Japan, then all the most important straits connecting the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and the Pacific Ocean will be in her hands. The Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become open, and any warships and submarines of the Japanese and US navies will be able to pass through the Catherine Strait, and completely uncontrollably.
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 29
            +4
            Quote: Black
            The Sea of ​​Okhotsk will become open, and any military ships and submarines of the Japanese and US navies will be able to pass through the Catherine Strait, and completely uncontrollably.

            This is our inner sea and no one will let them go there
            1. arkadiyssk
              arkadiyssk 5 October 2021 13: 55
              -4
              Has TV canceled your mind altogether? Since when did the Sea of ​​Okhotsk become an internal Russian one? The fact that the territory was recognized as our economic zone did not affect the sovereignty of the sea.
              According to the resolution, the bottom and bowels of the underwater area of ​​the specified enclave are the continental shelf of Russia. However, many fishers mistakenly believe that the sovereignty of the Russian Federation extends to the sea area in full, including its water area. Nevertheless, the 1982 UN Convention on the Law of the Sea determined that the rights of a coastal state to the continental shelf do not affect the legal status of the waters that cover it. Thus, the status of waters in the central part of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk outside the 200-mile zone did not change with the adoption of the resolution. These waters continue to remain the waters of the open sea and, crossing the line of the external border of the exclusive economic zone of the Russian Federation in the area of ​​the specified enclave, one must be guided by the current legislation, the press service of the border department of the FSB of Russia in the Sakhalin region told IA Sakh.com.
              1. boris epstein
                boris epstein 5 October 2021 15: 37
                +1
                200 miles from the Kamchatka coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk and 200 miles from the mainland coast of the Sea of ​​Okhotsk plus 200 miles from Sakhalin to Kamchatka is the entire water area.
                1. Vladimir Mashkov
                  Vladimir Mashkov 8 October 2021 19: 56
                  +1
                  Time goes by
                  Japan premieres take turns
                  The policy of inadequacy is unchangeable.
          2. bayard
            bayard 5 October 2021 08: 31
            +3
            Quote: Black
            Russia will never give up the Kuril Islands - this is the most important strategic foothold. The South Kuriles are a convenient sea gateway connecting Russia with the World Ocean.

            Quite right. But the Pacific Fleet is not at all in shape today, and even a couple of new corvettes and a couple of Varshavyankas will not fix the matter. We need a Fleet in the Pacific Ocean, and in the Baltic they will not be tuned in to all fleets - they are already barely turning their gears.
            We need a knight's move.
            But I have already written about this more than once.
        2. hrych
          hrych 4 October 2021 07: 26
          +15
          Abe, since he did not keep his oath, he should have made a sepuku at the grave, but he only faked laughing The samurai was grinding today. If only Russia, Korean missiles are flying over Japan, and the Chinese are seizing the disputed islands in the south. By the way, the South Koreans would also gladly smack on the Japanese, although both "love" America, but do not love each other.
          1. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 4 October 2021 09: 32
            +11
            By the way, the South Koreans would also gladly smack on the Japanese, although both "love" America, but do not love each other.
            As far as I can tell, both from personal communication with many representatives of the East Asian peoples and from other sources, almost all of Southeast and East Asia hates the Japanese. The Japanese did well there at one time.
        3. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 28
          +3
          Quote: Black
          On the slopes of Fuji
          Horseradish bloomed

          Half with a radish that isn't sweeter lol
        4. Alexander 3
          Alexander 3 4 October 2021 08: 09
          +2
          These perverts must be fond of fujiyama horseradish.
          1. Petro_tut
            Petro_tut 4 October 2021 15: 37
            0
            These perverts probably love fujiyama shit.

            Yeah, wasabi,
            1. Alexander 3
              Alexander 3 4 October 2021 15: 43
              +1
              I saw it in the store. And they hold our horseradish in high esteem?
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        7. Fast_mutant
          Fast_mutant 5 October 2021 18: 53
          0
          Quote: Black
          On the slopes of Fuji
          Horseradish bloomed
          Not to be seen by the Japanese
          Kuriles


          The samurai's life melted away
          In the palm of a snowflake
          Kalashnikov.
      2. Mountain shooter
        Mountain shooter 4 October 2021 07: 20
        +15
        Quote: Terenin
        Kishida, if you are such a smart guy, then rewrite our Constitution and ... put it under your zinc

        He just has nowhere to go. No Japanese prime minister will be approved unless he promises to return the islands. This is an obligatory mantra ...
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 4 October 2021 07: 23
          +5
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          Quote: Terenin
          Kishida, if you are such a smart guy, then rewrite our Constitution and ... put it under your zinc

          He just has nowhere to go. No Japanese prime minister will be approved unless he promises to return the islands. This is an obligatory mantra ...

          Thank you, hi buddy, and I was scared out of bed crying
        2. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 30
          +1
          Quote: Mountain Shooter
          This is an obligatory mantra ...

          Like Urka.inskaya, Give Crimea
        3. Cat
          Cat 4 October 2021 08: 51
          +4
          This is an obligatory mantra ..

          And also an eternal reason to turn him out of office
      3. Thrifty
        Thrifty 4 October 2021 07: 25
        +4
        Milking the beginning, it would not hurt us to regain Hokkaido! We must, at least from a position of strength, we must act! We do not have a peace treaty with the Japs, so we can solve the problem with Hokkaido with the help of the army ...
        1. AUL
          AUL 4 October 2021 08: 24
          +4
          Quote: Thrifty
          We do not have a peace treaty with the Japs, so we can solve the problem with Hokkaido with the help of the army ...

          Say more - and the fleet!
          Hang the checker on the wall, and put the hats on the cupboards and chests. Russia now only lacked war!
          1. Terenin
            Terenin 4 October 2021 18: 01
            +4
            Quote from AUL
            Quote: Thrifty
            We do not have a peace treaty with the Japs, so we can solve the problem with Hokkaido with the help of the army ...

            Say more - and the fleet!
            Hang the checker on the wall, and put the hats on the cupboards and chests. Russia now only lacked war!

            Alexander, hi here we are not talking about war, but about the information use of the tactics of the Anglo-Saxons, it is sometimes subtly risky to keep a question at the decision-making level... And the rebound, as if nothing had happened ... and again ... They have worked it out clearly, we need to learn something like that ...
        2. ZAV69
          ZAV69 4 October 2021 09: 03
          -1
          Quote: Thrifty
          We do not have a peace treaty with the Japs, so we can solve the problem with Hokkaido with the help of the army ...

          Yah ? Our fleet is now in a worse condition than that of the tsar father in 1904
      4. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 27
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        then rewrite our Constitution

        In a single copy
      5. Snail N9
        Snail N9 4 October 2021 07: 45
        +6
        What's in the Constitution? There, just the article on the "inviolability of borders" was cleverly tweaked (they put in a loophole for something like that) - "except for the demarcation of borders and the resolution of territorial disputes with neighboring countries ...." wink
        1. AUL
          AUL 4 October 2021 08: 43
          -1
          Quote: Snail N9
          "except for the demarcation of borders and the settlement of territorial disputes with neighboring countries ...."

          I also immediately noticed this reservation! The question with the Kuriles is the same case. So again we may be asked to "get it right."
          And there, you see, the Finns will argue about Karelia, the Chinese for Siberia, the Estonians for the Pskov region ... Not to mention Ukraine! And everything fits this small exception!
          1. Nexcom
            Nexcom 4 October 2021 08: 55
            +2
            no need to tell the Japanese ... otherwise they will think of demanding the demarcation of the border due to a territorial dispute
      6. Krasnoyarsk
        Krasnoyarsk 4 October 2021 09: 05
        0
        Quote: Terenin
        Kishida, if you're so smart, then rewrite our Constitution

        Read carefully the amendments to the Constitution, there it is very cleverly written on the issue of territory.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 4 October 2021 11: 42
          +1
          Quote: Krasnoyarsk
          Quote: Terenin
          Kishida, if you're so smart, then rewrite our Constitution

          Read carefully the amendments to the Constitution, there it is very cleverly written on the issue of territory.

          Well, what's so tricky? Are you sly "our"?
      7. fruc
        fruc 4 October 2021 10: 15
        +3
        Kishida stated the following:
        My task is to return all four islands to the jurisdiction of Japan.

        From what .... Mr. Kishida began to take responsibility for resolving issues of revising the results of the Second World War, and ?????
      8. tihonmarine
        tihonmarine 4 October 2021 10: 29
        +2
        Quote: Terenin
        My task is to return all four islands to the jurisdiction of Japan.

        Kishida, if you're such a smart guy, then rewrite our Constitution and ... put it under your zinc zinc.

        And what is the prime minister of Japan that makes such statements?
      9. VTR-295
        VTR-295 4 October 2021 11: 33
        -2
        Our Constitution was already rewritten a year ago, and without any outside help.
      10. Alekseev
        Alekseev 4 October 2021 12: 24
        +3
        Quote: Terenin
        Kishida, if you're so smart then

        I must remember that Hiroshima is from Nagasaki and strives so that there is no repetition under any circumstances, and not to put up a position of strength here.
  2. Nexcom
    Nexcom 4 October 2021 06: 37
    +12
    Old songs about the main thing. The gum continues to chew: speaking from a position of strength, the primary task is to return the islands, ..., blah blah blah ...
    Which prime minister plays this hackneyed disc?
    Are the Japanese themselves tired of it yet? After all, nothing changes and will not change. Nothing else to do? IMHO the consequences of Fukushima for them are a more pressing problem.

    Threat well, they will talk again from the "position of strength", they will write protests. And what, they will say a lot, achieve? No, they STRONGLY believe that after their conversations they will take and give the islands ??? laughing Either the prime minister is naive, or he keeps his Japanese for fools, or both together.
    1. smart ass
      smart ass 4 October 2021 06: 40
      +19
      The position of strength happens to the strong
      1. Reptiloid
        Reptiloid 4 October 2021 06: 52
        +6
        Quote: Clever man
        The position of strength happens to the strong

        The main thing for him is the previous talkers laughing surpass
        You can't do it, so at least promise!
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 4 October 2021 06: 55
          +5
          How can he surpass them? Will it really return the islands?
          Or overextend in promises?
          1. Reptiloid
            Reptiloid 4 October 2021 07: 00
            +3
            Quote: Nexcom
            ...... overextend in promises?
            how else can he?
            tongue Only blah-blah
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 18
              +3
              So that's what we are talking about. Indeed, only blah blah blah remain. laughing
              1. Seryoga64
                Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 36
                0
                Quote: Nexcom
                only blah blah blah and remain.

                This is what they call "strength" laughing
                1. Nexcom
                  Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 45
                  +1
                  A clear liquid some kind of force ...
                  1. Seryoga64
                    Seryoga64 4 October 2021 08: 51
                    0
                    Quote: Nexcom
                    A clear liquid some kind of force ...

                    And they simply do not have another request
                    1. Nexcom
                      Nexcom 4 October 2021 08: 58
                      +3
                      The problem is that they are intensively pumping this force with the support of the United States. They are intensively developing their 5th generation aircraft, air defense. The military fleet is riveted with might and main. And no matter how they completely ignore their own Constitution, according to which they are supposed to have armed forces in the form of self-defense forces, and no more.

                      Threat something similar in history has already happened once.
                      1. smart ass
                        smart ass 4 October 2021 09: 53
                        +1
                        All their technology aircraft and tanks of one Poseidon is enough. Zhahnut next to Fukushima and let the extreme ones look for where the radiation comes from)) like the Japanese, but you won't watch for nuclear safety !!
                      2. Seryoga64
                        Seryoga64 4 October 2021 10: 18
                        -1
                        Quote: Nexcom
                        They are intensively developing their 5th generation aircraft, air defense.

                        So it is rather against the whale
                        It won't work against Russia
                      3. Crimean partisan 1974
                        Crimean partisan 1974 4 October 2021 10: 39
                        +3
                        something similar in history has already happened.
                        ..... it's true. was, but then no one had a vigorous weapon ... the Yap had only a mercantile interest ... catching seafood, because they dirtied their water area with fukushima, therefore the desire to fish in clean waters intensified precisely after 2011 ... only and Total
          2. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 35
            0
            Quote: Nexcom
            Or overextend in promises?

            First, fantastic, second, the most realistic option
      2. Lech from Android.
        Lech from Android. 4 October 2021 06: 56
        +5
        This official does not at all understand that he himself can be put in the position of the Kama Sutra in the negotiations.
        I suppose, sooner or later, Japan will understand that she cannot see the Kuril Islands as her ears, and she will undertake a forceful seizure of these islands, taking advantage of the weakness of our politicians ... this is her only chance.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 01
          +14
          A Japanese man came to visit us at the institute. He was carefully asked a question about the northern territories to find out how he sees the situation. He does not believe that the transfer of the islands will be possible peacefully. But, gril, all the same this question will be raised - there is no way to "lose face".

          So this gum will chew endlessly - as long as Japan itself exists. Moreover, "losing face" for the Japanese is worse than self-cutting.
          1. smart ass
            smart ass 4 October 2021 09: 47
            +2
            Why don't they demand compensation for Hiroshima and Nigersaki?
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 4 October 2021 10: 04
              +2
              Are you asking me this? I have no idea why - I'm not Japanese.
              probably because the Americans will send them away with their demands for compensation, and the Japanese know this.
        2. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 38
          +1
          Quote: Lech from Android.
          I suppose, sooner or later, Japan will understand that she cannot see the Kuril as her ears.

          Never. There are many who want to become a minister, but without "give the Kuril Islands you won't become
    2. Grandfather
      Grandfather 4 October 2021 06: 40
      +6
      do hara-kiri right away ... it will be easier.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 October 2021 06: 53
        +5
        Some of them (I don't remember which prime minister, like Abe) promised to self-cut.
        But he cheekily did not fulfill his promises.
        1. Yngvar
          Yngvar 4 October 2021 07: 33
          +1
          You remember our proverb about chatter and sacks?
      2. Terenin
        Terenin 4 October 2021 07: 35
        +3
        Quote: Dead Day
        do hara-kiri right away ... it will be easier.

        So Kisita will lie twice.
      3. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 39
        +1
        Quote: Dead Day
        hara-kiri do

        At the grave of his father
    3. Andrey Chizhevsky
      Andrey Chizhevsky 4 October 2021 06: 44
      +7
      "From a position of strength" .... How's that? To meet with Lavrov, will he put on the armor of a samurai? Start swinging your katana? laughing
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 October 2021 06: 45
        +4
        No, it will indicate what the Russian Federation should do, how to behave and what to give. Apparently he seriously thinks that something will change from this.
        1. Andrey Chizhevsky
          Andrey Chizhevsky 4 October 2021 10: 24
          +2
          ... "The young man's hopes are nourished .." laughing .
      2. Egoza
        Egoza 4 October 2021 07: 15
        +5
        Quote: Andrey Chizhevsky
        From a position of strength ".... How's that? Will he put on the armor of a samurai at a meeting with Lavrov? Will he start swinging a katana?"

        What a charm! Here the samurai rides in full armor with a katana, and Lavrov sits on the table, lights up a cigarette and says his catchphrase ...)))
        1. Seryoga64
          Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 41
          +2
          Quote: Egoza
          and Lavrov will sit down on the table, light a cigarette and say his catchphrase ...)))

          Only one first word, because for the whole phrase, VO is banned laughing
    4. Egoza
      Egoza 4 October 2021 07: 12
      +3
      Quote: Nexcom
      the consequences of Fukushima for them are a more pressing problem.

      So that people do not remember about Fukushima, they will divert attention to the "question of the islands"
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 20
        +5
        You are right, I think that this is ANOTHER one of the reasons for chewing the question on the islands.
      2. Seryoga64
        Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 43
        +3
        Quote: Egoza
        So that people don't remember about Fukushima,

        About who dropped the atomic bomb on them, they have already safely forgotten
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 4 October 2021 08: 42
          +3
          About who dropped the atomic bomb on them, they have already safely forgotten


          Modern Japanese teenagers are seriously told that it was the USSR that arranged the atomic bombing for them. Yes Yes exactly. I myself was shocked when I found out. The Americans and then all in a brazen distorted.
          1. Seryoga64
            Seryoga64 4 October 2021 10: 17
            +1
            Quote: Nexcom
            Modern Japanese teenagers are seriously told that it was the USSR that arranged the atomic bombing for them.

            And in Poland they say that the USSR started WWII
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 4 October 2021 10: 51
              +2
              I am aware of what the psheki are moaning about - I worked there for six months in Warsaw. I ate Russophobia from them for the most unwilling.
    5. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 32
      +1
      Quote: Nexcom
      Are the Japanese themselves tired of it yet?

      And it seems to me that ordinary Japanese have not paid attention to this whining for a long time
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 34
        +3
        I think there are all sorts of things. There are probably especially stubborn ones.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 4 October 2021 09: 37
          +2
          in the premieres just from the stubborn and nominated.
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    7. Krasnoyarsk
      Krasnoyarsk 4 October 2021 09: 09
      +1
      Quote: Nexcom
      Conversations they will take and give the islands ??? laughing Either the prime minister is naive, or he holds his Japanese people for fools, or both together.

      Of course not. It is simply beneficial for someone to maintain tension in relations between the Russian Federation and Japan. It doesn't matter for what reason, the main thing is tension.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 4 October 2021 09: 12
        +1
        why someone? It is known to whom - the USA.
  3. Kot_Kuzya
    Kot_Kuzya 4 October 2021 06: 40
    +1
    For Russia, naturally, the attitude of Fumio Kishida to our country is important.

    Why should the attitude of the next mongrel be important for Russia? Let them yapping as much as they want, as long as Russia has the Strategic Missile Forces, the Japanese will not stick their heads, they will yapping from their islands from afar. The same insular position imposes on the mentality of the population - both the British and the Japanese are lovers of crap and yapping from afar, feeling safe on the island.
  4. Popandos
    Popandos 4 October 2021 06: 45
    0
    she changed

    Is this a mistake or not? request feel
    In modern japan everything can be.
  5. Stas 2rep
    Stas 2rep 4 October 2021 06: 54
    +8
    Straight Sisyphean work of some kind. With the tenacity of rams.
  6. AlexVas44
    AlexVas44 4 October 2021 07: 05
    +4
    My task is to return all four islands to the jurisdiction of Japan.

    This, apparently, is already an unwritten rule: an oath upon taking office, however, is a tradition ... hi
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 08
      +4
      More like a carrot for Japanese voters. Well, imagine, they will vote for a candidate for prime minister who will not promise to return the islands?
  7. bar
    bar 4 October 2021 07: 09
    +2
    The new prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the islands from a position of strength

    Another approach of the next prime minister. How many more will there be. It is only interesting from the position of what force he was going to speak? American?
    1. Seryoga64
      Seryoga64 4 October 2021 07: 44
      +1
      Quote: bar
      American

      They won't lift a finger for them
      1. bar
        bar 4 October 2021 15: 35
        +1
        But this does not prevent them from speaking "from a position of strength." Do not roll bags laughing
  8. Prisoner
    Prisoner 4 October 2021 07: 17
    +2
    winked God! And this one there too. How many of them have to overstrain in order to calm down? How stubborn these islanders are. Harakiri didn’t promise to do it?
  9. Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
    Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov 4 October 2021 07: 19
    +4
    ***
    -Japan, with the support of the Soviet Union, became a member of the UN, signed and ratified the Charter of the organization, which contains Article 107, which states that all the results of World War II are inviolable.

    -The war between the USSR and Japan was completed on September 2, 1945 by the signing by the Japanese of an act of unconditional surrender.

    -The state of war was officially terminated on October 19, 1956, when a joint Declaration was signed: "The state of war between the USSR and Japan ceases from the date of entry into force of this Declaration, and peace and good-neighborly friendly relations are restored between them."

    -The Kuril Islands came under the control of the USSR as a result of World War II, which was stipulated in the Cairo Declaration of 1943, the Potsdam Declaration of 1945, as well as in the 1951 peace treaty signed in San Francisco.

    -Japan unconditionally recognized the Potsdam and Cairo Declarations and signed the act of surrender in 1945. And in 1951, the Japanese abandoned their claims to the Kuril Islands and Sakhalin.

    ---
    "Constitution of the Russian Federation"

    (adopted by popular vote on 12.12.1993 with amendments approved during a nationwide vote on 01.07.2020)

    Article 67,2.1-

    - "The Russian Federation ensures the protection of its sovereignty and territorial integrity. Actions aimed at alienating part of the territory of the Russian Federation, as well as calls for such actions, are not allowed."

    ----------

    Salmon tail splashed on the wave

    The islands disappeared in the fog

    They will not return

    Deal with Nihon ...

    © V.V. Vorontsov Islands of the Rising Sun of Russia

    ***
  10. wandlitz
    wandlitz 4 October 2021 07: 20
    +2
    Another prime minister is a "silovik" with promises to return the "Japanese dream" - the Kuril Islands. You have to be more modest, gentlemen of the premiere, not to speak out loud and not about your dreams. For a wish expressed aloud does not come true. And the islands will not return to Japan, even if they silently wish to get them back ...
  11. oracul
    oracul 4 October 2021 07: 23
    +2
    The Gordian knot of Japanese politics must be cut, not tightened up. The growing courage in threats to return the islands by force is explained by the policies of the United States and the Anglo-Saxons in general. And to hope that they will change something in their views is not just naive, but also criminal, because it can lead to war.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 October 2021 07: 30
      +1
      The Gordian knot of Japanese politics must be cut, not tightened up.

      How do you propose to cut? What other options can there be other than not giving away? the Russian Federation has no other options, otherwise it will be a Spanish shame, if not even worse ...
  12. Evil troll
    Evil troll 4 October 2021 07: 24
    +1
    The position is there. And the strength?
  13. V1er
    V1er 4 October 2021 07: 35
    +2
    It's time to start talking about the return to Russia of the primordially Russian Hokkaido. Southern territories. Otherwise, this stupidity will last a long time. We also need to continue building a powerful military infrastructure in the Kuril ridge and Sakhalin.
  14. Vladimir Shcherbina
    Vladimir Shcherbina 4 October 2021 07: 50
    +1
    Yeah, "give it back, otherwise I'll fuck myself."
  15. Pavel73
    Pavel73 4 October 2021 07: 57
    +2
    They pass from one to another the obligation not to forget about the Kuriles. Like a baton. And they are waiting for a new Khrushchev or Gorbachev.
  16. ODERVIT
    ODERVIT 4 October 2021 08: 06
    -1
    Everything from a position of strength, pressure, sanctions. Not to be kind, neighborly am ...
  17. rocket757
    rocket757 4 October 2021 08: 17
    +2
    Japanese press: New prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of islands from a position of strength
    Ha, ha, NOTHING NEW ... the premieres change, but nothing changes!
    1. cniza
      cniza 4 October 2021 08: 58
      +2
      Good time! hi

      They have it as a kind of mantra, but they will shit ...
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 4 October 2021 09: 06
        +1
        Hi soldier
        Schaub we shit, they have to stand in line ...
        And so, what their polyptykum cannot be blamed for is the lack of constancy about the "northern territories".
        1. cniza
          cniza 4 October 2021 09: 18
          +2
          Quote: rocket757

          And so, what their polyptykum cannot be blamed for is the lack of constancy about the "northern territories".


          And without this spell, there is nothing to do in their politics, let alone become prime minister ...
          1. rocket757
            rocket757 4 October 2021 09: 58
            +1
            we know it, they know it ... everyone knows everything, idyll, mutual understanding!
            1. cniza
              cniza 4 October 2021 15: 50
              +2
              Everything is classic - the whole world is a theater ...
              1. rocket757
                rocket757 4 October 2021 15: 55
                +1
                Now it has ceased to look like a theater too ... a continuous bedlam.
                1. cniza
                  cniza 4 October 2021 16: 08
                  +2
                  The caliber and authority of politicians is not the same, and this is the state of affairs ...
                  1. rocket757
                    rocket757 4 October 2021 21: 17
                    +1
                    Big, serious uncles have no one to play on equal terms with, after they figured everything out among themselves.
  18. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 4 October 2021 08: 23
    +1
    My task is to return to the jurisdiction of Japan all four islands
    Strange, why didn't you mention Sakhalin? If you aim at an amateur theater director, then immediately at Shakespeare. Or not?
  19. K-50
    K-50 4 October 2021 08: 26
    +2
    Japanese press: New prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of islands from a position of strength

    There were many of them, what were they trying to speak from a position of strength and where were they? On the dump of History, and we will survive and "chew" it! fellow Yes lol
  20. BAI
    BAI 4 October 2021 08: 46
    +1
    the new prime minister of Japan intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the Kuril Islands from a "position of strength".

    By the way, this is a serious question. On TV, they are really discussing what will happen if a military conflict with Japan begins.
    1. poquello
      poquello 4 October 2021 18: 37
      0
      Quote: BAI
      the new prime minister of Japan intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the Kuril Islands from a "position of strength".

      By the way, this is a serious question. On TV, they are really discussing what will happen if a military conflict with Japan begins.

      I am for peace! wash them off immediately!
  21. ximkim
    ximkim 4 October 2021 08: 49
    0
    For starters, Fumio Kishida needs to gather his entire army.
    And so that the United States does not sit on the sidelines.
    That is, the United States must support its ally (Japan)
  22. riwas
    riwas 4 October 2021 08: 54
    +1
    The new prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the islands from a position of strength

    God did not give horns to a vigorous cow.
  23. Borisych
    Borisych 4 October 2021 08: 55
    +3
    You don't need to get into Japan with anything. You need to drop something nearby. Tsunami will finish the rest. The slide will remain, Fujiyama. Tired of these cross-nosed Nanking cutters and biological weapons testers.
  24. cniza
    cniza 4 October 2021 08: 57
    +2
    Japanese press: New prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of islands from a position of strength


    What ? Another "silovik" ...
  25. Gardamir
    Gardamir 4 October 2021 09: 00
    -1
    Because in Japanese. I don't know a single hieroglyph. Most likely, some kind of unhealthy hysteria is being promoted by the Russian media. Look at what an outrageous rampant "patriotism" in the comments.
    But if the Kremlin really does not want to sell the Kuril Islands, then why are these daily articles? Who is interested in the opinion of the next first minister? Or is it not casual?
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 October 2021 09: 04
      +1
      Google translator to help you. This is how I translate the Chinese media. quite tolerantly translates, basically you can understand what they are writing about.
  26. Grossvater
    Grossvater 4 October 2021 09: 20
    +1
    So, negotiations with Japan. Just across the islands.
    Sergei Viktorovich enters the meeting room. Places a briefcase on the negotiating table and takes out from it:
    Ears cut off from a toy donkey;
    Horseradish root;
    Sex shop item ...
    He won’t give it up, the Japanese thought ...
  27. Vladimir61
    Vladimir61 4 October 2021 09: 56
    +3
    The new prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the islands from a position of strength
    Which one already? In line ... children ...
  28. ugol2
    ugol2 4 October 2021 10: 28
    +8
    Another one came for the Kemsky volost.
    Well, take the queue, once you have come, you will follow the Chukhonts.
    Wait a long time ...
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 4 October 2021 10: 56
      0
      “Japan will take a tough position - perhaps not demanding these islands back, but demanding recognition from Russia of their belonging to Japan. Naturally, this will irritate the Russian side, and on the issue of the peace treaty, perhaps, one should expect stagnation. But this does not mean that all contacts will be closed. Of course, the political dialogue will also continue, ”Kishida stressed.
      Details from the AK: https://actualcomment.ru/stagnatsiya-ili-obnovlenie-chego-zhdat-rossii-ot-novogo-premer-ministra-yaponii-2110041030.html

      What a cool excuse - you don't have to turn around (it's not clear that they won't give it back, but what else to say ???), the main thing is to admit that the islands are Japanese (well, at least to achieve at least something like that). laughing These Japanese people are just really ...
      What pirouettes!
  29. Basarev
    Basarev 4 October 2021 11: 02
    +1
    It is much worse that the Kremlin's position is no longer so categorical. For domestic consumption, they can say whatever they want, this is just propaganda. But seeing how the people in the country are becoming impoverished, how the screws are tightening, how the emphasis is shifting more and more to the security officials and the guards personally, and how China is treated kindly, it becomes clear: despite all the bravado, the sanctions are working. And it is enough just to wait not very many years (it is possible to meet the premier's term, if you aggravate correctly), then the person will easily give up the northern territories, and all the Kuriles, or even on the very Portsmouth line, write off (or even all the original claims of the Russian- Japanese war) for a sheer trifle: for the meaningless recognition of Crimea (the words of one country will not be conveyed by many dozens of other countries), for investments (to throw in a couple of hundred million and several outdated factories, that is, to help their Japanese modernization by getting rid of obsolete industries), and just a shelter for important people when people take the Caudle seriously. There is no need to rush here, because time is working for Japan. But Russia does not have much time left, because the most valuable asset - people of Soviet education - are already at retirement age.
    1. poquello
      poquello 4 October 2021 18: 33
      +1
      Quote: Basarev
      For domestic consumption, they can say whatever they want, this is just propaganda. But seeing how the people in the country are becoming impoverished, how the screws are tightening, how the emphasis is shifting more and more to the security officials and the guards personally, and how China is treated kindly, it becomes clear: despite all the bravado, the sanctions are working.

      oh how, well, let's listen without "propaganda" how poor he is, I'm all in attention
      1. Basarev
        Basarev 4 October 2021 19: 06
        0
        This is true. In 14 year, out of nowhere, the entire people were twice poorer because of the collapsed exchange rate. And this was only the first step.
        1. poquello
          poquello 4 October 2021 19: 14
          0
          Quote: Basarev
          This is true. In 14 year, out of nowhere, the entire people were twice poorer because of the collapsed exchange rate. And this was only the first step.

          that is, another blah blah blah for dill and those who count in dollars?
          1. Basarev
            Basarev 4 October 2021 20: 40
            0
            and those who count in dollars?

            It makes sense to count only in dollars. The dollar stands unshakably like a rock, this is one of the few ways to save savings. And the ruble to believe there are no more fools. Not after the Pavlovian reform.
            1. poquello
              poquello 4 October 2021 21: 09
              0
              Quote: Basarev
              and those who count in dollars?

              It makes sense to count only in dollars. The dollar stands unshakably like a rock, this is one of the few ways to save savings. And the ruble to believe there are no more fools. Not after the Pavlovian reform.

              I count in sandwiches and things that I can buy)))))))))))))))
  30. zwlad
    zwlad 4 October 2021 11: 20
    +1
    It is added that the new Prime Minister of Japan intends to speak with Russia on the issue of the Kuril Islands from a "position of strength"

    "Do you have a pistol?" (with)
    "A hole for you from a donut and not Sharapova (Shikotan)" (c)
  31. MARGADON
    MARGADON 4 October 2021 11: 21
    +1
    Strong men enter the arena

    Not knowing that there is sorrow in life.
  32. Terenin
    Terenin 4 October 2021 11: 29
    +1
    Japanese press: New prime minister intends to speak with Russia on the issue of islands from a position of strength

    To me, too, the vaunted centuries-old tactics of warfare. Designated or discovered ambushes turn into a trap along with new, old, super-bright commanders. fool
  33. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 4 October 2021 11: 38
    0
    "After the Japanese saw how the Russian delegates squeeze tea bags into cups, it became clear to everyone that the Kuril Islands would not be given back ..." (c)
  34. pexotinec
    pexotinec 4 October 2021 12: 06
    0
    He would show his independence to the Americans, otherwise they can only crow and stand with the letter r.
  35. Berg berg
    Berg berg 4 October 2021 13: 01
    0
    Let them try their hand, once they have already visited Russia, it means that their history has taught little! The borders of Great Russia are indivisible and inalienable, this is spelled out in the law, but what the Japanese have long predicted for their country, they captured in their films about the Death of Japan! Go for it!
  36. Evil 55
    Evil 55 4 October 2021 14: 14
    0
    The 333rd Prime Minister may solve the problem of the "northern territories" .. wassat ... In exchange for four small islands - Shikoku, Hokkaido, Honshu and Kyushu ..
  37. Vdi73
    Vdi73 4 October 2021 16: 05
    0
    そ し て ア パ ー ト の 鍵 。.. そ し て 死 ん だ ロ バ の 耳。 北海道 が 残 し た も の ​​に 満 足 し て く だ さ い。
    And the key to the apartment ... Ears from a dead donkey. Be content with what Hokkaido left you.
    1. Machnamh
      Machnamh 4 October 2021 16: 22
      +2
      Quote: Vdi73
      Be content with what Hokkaido left you


      Have you noticed that the Russian leadership, both Yeltsin's and Putin's, is ready to discuss on the basis of 1956? That is, they are ready to concede these two areas of the territory and, accordingly, the water area. Take a closer look at the articles even here on VO. In today's Russia there is no real force that would ensure the reliable stability of the state for the next 50 - 80 years. And the most basic problem is the lack of population. There would be 300 million in Russia, of which there would be 100 million to the east of the Urals, the conversation would be completely different. Is there such a thing? This is no less important than nuclear weapons, maybe even more
      1. poquello
        poquello 4 October 2021 18: 25
        +1
        Quote: Machnamh
        Have you noticed that the Russian leadership, both Yeltsin's and Putin's, is ready to discuss on the basis of 1956?

        have you ever read it?
        1. Machnamh
          Machnamh 4 October 2021 21: 52
          0
          Quote: poquello
          have you ever read it?


          Surely. After the conclusion of a peace treaty. There is no need to say anything further. They forgot both for 1905, and for Portsmouth, and for the Japanese with his war negates any agreements ... A strong state does not take such a position ... Give up its land and water area for a piece of paper ... Maybe they think that the descendants of the samurai will become a particularly fraternal people for the Russians (Russians), it is better for the Belarusians there, if the Amer. bases are siphoning off the islands ...
          1. poquello
            poquello 4 October 2021 22: 03
            0
            Quote: Machnamh
            Quote: poquello
            have you ever read it?

            Surely. After the conclusion of a peace treaty. There is no need to say anything further.

            it is necessary to speak, otherwise the meaning is distorted, "when establishing good-neighborly relations" and for this reason the 1960s were sent to American friends instead of islands
            1. Machnamh
              Machnamh 4 October 2021 22: 59
              0
              Well, that is, on the basis of 1956, the current regime from the Kremlin is ready to return its territories to lovers of sushi from the human liver? For a peace treaty so to speak? When already there has been no war for 76 years? Give territories for pieces of paper? The Japanese should themselves be interested in a peace treaty with the Russian Federation and cooperation, without any preliminary islands ... If not, then let them go through the forest. There is no such attitude in the Kremlin today. And that means that those islands can also profuse
              1. poquello
                poquello 4 October 2021 23: 21
                0
                Quote: Machnamh
                Well, that is, on the basis of 1956, the current regime is ready to return its territories to lovers of sushi from the human liver? For a peace treaty so to speak?

                what does "that is" mean? Is Japan an independent country? There are no Americans and other "friends" of Russia? There is no doubt that there is no danger or infringement of Russia in the distant future?
                1. Machnamh
                  Machnamh 4 October 2021 23: 41
                  -1
                  The distant future is shrouded in fog. Nobody knows him. There are dangers — a return to the conditions of 1956. In practical terms. After 14 years, the United States degrades (Ralao will challenge, well, there are black and other pasties and other Chebureks will define the true Saxons and even Ivrey with Wall Street and the former gloss will be lost), the base of the former nankers will scare and go to themselves ... Remember how Antique Greece shrewd ... .... It's just the right time to organize a peace treaty, after giving Japan the island of Shikotan and a group of small islands of Habomai .. Here is one of the main fairly realistic scenarios. Like ?
  38. Vyacheslav Dokuchaev
    Vyacheslav Dokuchaev 4 October 2021 17: 45
    0
    everyone will not calm down ..............
  39. zenion
    zenion 4 October 2021 17: 58
    -4
    There is no USSR, feudal Russia was revived, and the Japanese always spoke to it from a position of strength.
  40. Ros 56
    Ros 56 4 October 2021 18: 21
    0
    The Japanese policeman, I remember in the 30-40s of the last century, the narrow-film ones already tried by force, how did it end, did they really forget? In August 45, it seemed like our soldiers managed in 10 days, and the whole campaign in 20 days.
    And now no one will go hand-to-hand to attack Japan. Have you forgotten Hiroshima and Nagasaki?
    Weirdos, well, you don’t have samurai, they ran out in those years, otherwise the Japanese would not have put the striped ones on their necks. fellow
  41. poquello
    poquello 4 October 2021 18: 22
    0
    "in terms of demands from Russia to transfer" the South Kuriles - "from a position of strength."
    in connection with such valiant impulses, two questions arise,
    Do the Japanese swim well?
    and what is closer to Japan?
    you need to train, Kishida! otherwise the nation will drown not for a penny, start organizing collective swims, competitions on inflatable rafts, otherwise he started somehow optimistically - a voluntarist
  42. Freedim
    Freedim 4 October 2021 18: 39
    +2
    The narrow-eyed people are trying to find out .. The peace treaty was not signed - so "we can bang" ..
    Let history be honored, who laid nuclear bombs on their cities, and who after the war indirectly forbade becoming a "second Switzerland".
    On the other hand, it is not clear in what state their agreement with the Americans about Ryukyu (where Okinawa is) .. It seems like the Americans ordered the Japanese not to agree with the surrender of Itrup and Kunashir to the USSR under the threat of the final seizure of the Ryukyu archipelago (which was then under US control). Now Ryukyu is Japanese, but blah-blah-blah at the expense of the skeletons are still hovering in the political space.
  43. GRANATE-19
    GRANATE-19 4 October 2021 19: 13
    +1
    And that's enough strength! ???
  44. Rex Russen
    Rex Russen 4 October 2021 19: 49
    +1
    Just like in a movie, "Come up and say in a resolute voice:" Give the islands back! And then ... "
    Anime will stop supplying ...
  45. aleks700
    aleks700 5 October 2021 03: 56
    +1
    With Russia, Japan, from a position of strength? Come on, come on, come on.
  46. Slon_on
    Slon_on 5 October 2021 09: 05
    0
    Ishida-san knows very well that if you dream, then you will not deny yourself anything.
  47. valentine light
    valentine light 5 October 2021 09: 48
    0
    Before the Second World War, Stalin also asked to return Sakhalin, which had been captured by the Japanese interventionists, to Civil, and he was told that "what was taken by force of arms is not subject to revision."

    From 1939 to 1941, Japan sank 28 Soviet merchant ships without being at war.
    Maybe Japan already has enough weapons to rattle?
    And what about the withdrawal of American military bases and only then return to the issue of the "northern territories"?
  48. Sergei Timofeich
    Sergei Timofeich 5 October 2021 10: 51
    0
    From a position of strength, what is this, this ninja will challenge our sambist, who turns half of the world on a buoy to fight?
  49. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 5 October 2021 12: 07
    0
    He needs to borrow from Pan Zelensky a book on how to properly bang his head against the wall. Then blackmail Russia by killing herself to death. am
  50. Berg berg
    Berg berg 5 October 2021 13: 15
    +1
    Will speak in such a tone, we will take another island, but a larger one!