Daily Mail: Chinese military aircraft settled in Afghan Bagram

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At the Afghan military base in Bagram, abandoned by the Americans back in July, electricity appeared and military aircraft landed. According to the British edition of the Daily Mail, the Chinese have settled at the airbase.

The publication, citing its own sources, writes that military aircraft have appeared at the Bagram airbase, and the power supply has also been restored. At the same time, according to unconfirmed reports, it may be the Chinese who occupied the former stronghold of the United States.



Other sources confirm that the airbase has received electricity and is functioning again. At the same time, it is noted that the Taliban * (the movement is banned in Russia as a terrorist movement) was hardly able to restore the airbase's functionality, especially to lift heavy military transport aircraft into the air. At the same time, a lot of evidence of several military aircraft taking off and landing at the airbase appeared on social networks.


The Daily Mail speculates that the Chinese military is stationed at the airbase, especially since the director of the Chinese program at the Stimson Research Institute, Yong Sung, recently said that China would "gladly" occupy Bagram and seize any equipment left over from the United States. Also, remember that the Taliban * called China their "best friend" in the world.

Recall that the airbase in Bagram was built by the Soviet army, after which it went to the Americans, who operated it for 20 years. In July of this year, the military contingent of the base left Bagram under cover of night, effectively leaving it to be plundered.
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    1. +13
      3 October 2021 18: 03
      Also, remember that the Taliban * called China their "best friend" in the world.


      All the same, China began to increase its presence, it was quite assumed ...
      1. +7
        3 October 2021 18: 12
        Quote: cniza
        All the same, China began to increase its presence, it was quite assumed ...

        While these are words and nothing more ... I will more believe that Pakistan is now settling there.
        1. 0
          3 October 2021 19: 19
          Quote: svp67
          While these are words and nothing more ... I will more believe that Pakistan is now settling there.

          This is China! The students were part of the Chinese project to "privatize" Afghanistan, and Pakistan is also part of the Chinese Belt and Road project.
          1. +6
            3 October 2021 19: 34
            Quote: Stroporez
            This is China!

            Until it's proven
            Quote: Stroporez
            The students were part of the Chinese project to "privatize" Afghanistan, and Pakistan is also part of the Chinese Belt and Road project.

            And nevertheless, the status of "terrorists", and at the UN level, has not yet been canceled from the "students" and now China has received the status of a "country that supports terrorism" , but through Pakistan ... he doesn't care anymore
            1. -2
              3 October 2021 20: 03
              Quote: svp67
              And nevertheless, the status of "terrorists", and at the UN level, has not yet been canceled from the "students" and now China has received the status of a "country that supports terrorism" , but through Pakistan ... he doesn't care anymore

              And it is not at all important through whom China will act, but what is important is that it is already in place and China has long had a program of infrastructure development for Afghanistan.
              Does anyone really think that Salang restore perfume with their own money? laughing
              China has accumulated financial and economic strength and has now begun to act.
              Of course, he will not fight directly with anyone, but he will not finance and carry the "chestnuts" with someone else's hands, do not go to a fortune-teller. Yes
              PySy. There is an opinion of some knowledgeable people that during the police in the pandsher, the Chainovsky special forces got into the pictures and their instructors and advisers are also among the students. wink
              1. +2
                3 October 2021 20: 17
                Quote: Stroporez
                And it is not at all important through whom China will act, but what is important is that it is already in place and China has long had a program of infrastructure development for Afghanistan.

                I remember the United States and Russia were accused of this ...
                Quote: Stroporez
                China has accumulated financial and economic strength and has now begun to act.

                All its power, alas, is kept "on paper", there are few resources, little energy, the main consumers of the produced are its direct enemies ...
                1. +6
                  3 October 2021 20: 25
                  yes, in our time, in general, all the power of everyone is paper money - money is not made of silver nowadays .. but for paper money it is easy to buy material ... otherwise you painted it like that - as if China is "breathing with ease" is about to collapse hi
                2. -1
                  3 October 2021 21: 59
                  Quote: svp67
                  All its power, alas, is kept "on paper", there are few resources, little energy, the main consumers of the produced are its direct enemies ...

                  15 years ago I said that the Chinese auto industry would flood the world with its products, no one believed. ha ha.
                  I will not dissuade you, but China is now the world leader, its growth can only be compared with the USSR during the Stalinist industrialization.
                  China is practically self-sufficient, and in terms of human resources, in terms of minerals, and what they do not have will be sold and imposed on them, Force S. is a vivid example to you, and in terms of industrial and economic potential. The yuan is traded on stock exchanges on a par with the leading currencies, our Central Bank transferred part of the money to the yuan.
                  China currently has the most advanced technology.
                  I continue to assert that now in China there is a period of advanced Leninist NEP and the CPC will build developed socialism, be sure.
            2. +4
              3 October 2021 23: 21
              And nevertheless, the status of "terrorists", and at the UN level, with "students" so far no who did not cancel

              Well, shove this "UN status" into yourself in any desired place.
              We believe in the UN, Elections, good gnomes and other nonsense.
              Happy fatherhood.
          2. +1
            3 October 2021 23: 16
            Quote: Stroporez
            This is China!

            If this is true, then my assumptions turned out to be correct and we found the author of the ISIS project. The seizure of Afgan is very similar to the scenario of the failed seizure of Iraq. And media coverage exceeding the level of slippers is now understandable. The PRC tried to knock Iraq out from under the Yankees, by proxy. Their style, absolute indiscriminateness in means and complete disregard for civilian victims, they do not really value their inhabitants either, almost 2 billion natural ants.
            Only the ISIS project failed due to the timely reaction of the Russian Federation (in Syria) and the United States (in Iraq), and the Chinese found a new ward, and this time the card fell into suit. The Yankees have been knocked out of the region of interest to the PRC, and they seem to be out of business.
            Of course, the technology is not new, the USSR and the USA used it for the entire Cold War, but there was no such scope and coordination at that time.
            1. +1
              3 October 2021 23: 23
              Quote: And Us Rat
              If it's true

              100 pudoffs! The "students" of the Chinese immediately wrote down Ali as their friends, and the whole operation went smoothly.
      2. +3
        3 October 2021 18: 42
        Quote: cniza
        Also, remember that the Taliban * called China their "best friend" in the world.


        All the same, China began to increase its presence, it was quite assumed ...

        Well, what, a trump card is possible if necessary.

        hi
      3. +5
        3 October 2021 18: 56
        Hi soldier
        If you remember ... China did not send its military anywhere. Here are the service personnel, workers, it's easy! Local people can also provide security there, it's much easier.
        1. +3
          3 October 2021 19: 16
          In the last century, the Chinese fought with Japan; in the 50s, they took part in Korea, and later with Vietnam. Recently with India.
          While there is uncertainty in the message. Probably, Victor, we will soon find out
          1. +3
            3 October 2021 19: 41
            Well, yes, it was ... but it was not, already, for a very long time.
            1. +2
              3 October 2021 19: 45
              Yes, these were wars of a completely different time and opportunity, except with India. Recently.
              1. +2
                3 October 2021 20: 02
                The conflict in the contiguous / disputed territories ... is very peculiar, considering the level of arms of the countries, the strength and size of their armies!
                1. +2
                  3 October 2021 20: 11
                  But also, Victor, there were civil wars in China at different times and unrest that they pacified.
                  1. +2
                    3 October 2021 23: 29
                    Limited expansion. Different levels of operations on their own territory ...
                2. +1
                  3 October 2021 23: 27
                  Quote: rocket757
                  The conflict in the contiguous / disputed territories ... is very peculiar, considering the level of arms of the countries, the strength and size of their armies!

                  Nowadays, everyone loves to "fight" not by armies and directions, but by means of mass media, agitation, viruses and everything else without "clan and tribe."
                  The armies are now needed only to secure the ambitions and salaries of the generals.
                  All.
                  1. +1
                    3 October 2021 23: 35
                    Something like this, they want, but it does not always work out .... or rather, it rarely works.
                    1. -1
                      3 October 2021 23: 40
                      Something like this, they want, but it does not always work out .... or rather, it rarely works.

                      This is temporary, it will pass soon.
                      We are all under the same authority. Although they flutter so as not to give their pocket to the general use.
                      But, it will be decided soon :)
        2. 0
          3 October 2021 23: 23
          Quote: rocket757
          If you remember ... China did not send its military anywhere.

          Officially no. But in fact there are more than a hundred thousand of them in Africa alone. Only they are there like civil protection of Chinese factories and mines.
          1. 0
            3 October 2021 23: 26
            Quote: And Us Rat
            Officially no. But in fact there are more than a hundred thousand of them in Africa alone. Only they are there like civil protection of Chinese factories and mines.

            There is already a clash of interests with our PMCs, but they were quickly shut up, because the yellow-lick is now "our brothers forever", as the president says and he knows what. wink
          2. 0
            3 October 2021 23: 28
            Unofficially ... there is such a topic, many practice this, BUT, this is really different.
      4. +1
        3 October 2021 20: 29
        Is this official information or is it about aircraft models?

        If the sides of the Chinese production are fixed, then it may be Pakistan, allied to the Taliban, actively buying them. And it makes no sense to send the most perfect available to Afghanistan - the same Pakistani F-16s are redundant.

        Or maybe China itself. With their planes.

        In general, we will find out soon. The whole world buys equipment from manufacturers, which can be counted on the fingers ... Therefore, this news may have different development.
        1. 0
          3 October 2021 23: 49
          Is this official information or is it about aircraft models?

          If fixed

          Fixers, aggregators, etc. factually-confirming citizens (not Comrades) who love the presence of "facts" and "proofs" from scratch and in empty disputes.
          Dear ones, do you still believe in them yourself? Do you believe in their "incorruptibility, in the impossibility of their forgeries, in their loyalty"?
          O Lord our God! When the fools are already taken from the Earth somewhere in one point remote from her and us.
    2. -1
      3 October 2021 18: 04
      the Taliban * have called China their "best friend" in the world.
      With friends like that ...
      1. +4
        3 October 2021 18: 47
        Quote: yfast
        the Taliban * have called China their "best friend" in the world.
        With friends like that ...

        The word "friends" in the international situation is understood by everyone ... winked well you know
    3. +1
      3 October 2021 18: 09
      An interesting redistribution of interests is taking place in Afghanistan. Kabul airfield in Turkey with Qatar (Britain), Bagram airfield for China (if true). I think by the end of winter the outlines of this new project will be clear.
      1. +3
        3 October 2021 18: 50
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        An interesting redistribution of interests is taking place in Afghanistan. Kabul airfield in Turkey with Qatar (Britain), Bagram airfield for China (if true). I think by the end of winter the outlines of this new project will be clear.

        Agree. Risky business, but with Afghan it is better to lose in quick dividends
      2. +2
        3 October 2021 23: 34
        [quote] [interesting redistribution of interests is happening / quote]
        Entropy.
        The world, in the absence of sound management, DIRECTLY disintegrates into atoms.
        This technology of disintegration is extremely important for demonstrating the inability of the current "authorities" (authorities in brackets, since there are no real public and real authorities left) to manage this mess. And it is necessary for the current re-cutters of power to justify the coming to power of their one World Ruler. The ruler of demons is Satan.
    4. -3
      3 October 2021 18: 10
      - The Taliban * called China their "best friend" in the world.
      THE BEST COMMUNIST TERRORIST friends, albeit Chinese.
      And the planes may belong to the Pakistani Air Force.
      1. +3
        3 October 2021 18: 16
        Quote: knn54
        THE BEST COMMUNIST TERRORIST friends, albeit Chinese.

        A wedge is knocked out like a wedge ... so much of all dishonesty has been sponsored and prepared by "Western partners" that to fight them you have to take such steps
        1. 0
          3 October 2021 18: 54
          Sergei, what a wedge is their "hereditary". They helped the Mujahideen, now the Taliban.
          MAOISTS were, are and will be ... are.
          1. +2
            3 October 2021 19: 02
            Quote: knn54
            They helped the Mujahideen, now the Taliban.

            I'm afraid that the list to whom the USSR helped will be much longer ...
    5. +3
      3 October 2021 18: 10
      What was Washington counting on? That everyone will turn their backs on Afgan? Nah, China has interests all over the world and in all geographic zones, and they will not let their own go, even with students with a bald devil, Beijing earns.
      1. +3
        3 October 2021 18: 54
        Quote: Murmur 55
        What was Washington counting on? That everyone will turn their backs on Afgan? Nah, China has interests all over the world and in all geographic zones, and they will not let their own go, even with students with a bald devil, Beijing earns.

        I agree that China is doing it. He introduced him strongly and nationalized the oligarch.
    6. +5
      3 October 2021 18: 11
      If this is so, then this is a great success of Chinese diplomacy, through Pakistan it is possible to increase pressure on the Indians and reach the Indian Ocean by land, ensure the safety of the new Silk Road route through Afghanistan, localize Islamic extremism on the distant approaches, the concept of Chinese soft power in action
      1. +1
        3 October 2021 18: 59
        For India, the rise to power of the Taliban turned out to be one of the biggest foreign policy failures !!
        During the 2020 Afghanistan conference last year, Indian Foreign Minister Subramanyam Jaishankar said that no part of Afghanistan was left “unaffected” by “more than 400 projects” that India has implemented in all 34 provinces of the country. Bilateral trade between the two countries has also grown significantly over the years, reaching $ 1,5 billion in 2019-2020.
        India, which views the Taliban as a confidant of its arch rival Pakistan, maintained close ties with the Northern Alliance, which defeated the Afghan militant in 2001 with the help of US-led NATO forces.
    7. 0
      3 October 2021 18: 14
      In this jar, the spider does not matter more / less.
    8. +1
      3 October 2021 18: 29
      Goodness should not be lost!
    9. 0
      3 October 2021 18: 32
      Previously, the Americans surrounded us, now the Chinese have begun to do the same.
      1. +3
        3 October 2021 18: 59
        Quote: Sergey3
        Previously, the Americans surrounded us, now the Chinese have begun to do the same.

        Don't give a damn, we're not fluffy and harmless either ...
        Also sometimes you want to "turn your shoulder, open your hand ..." bully
    10. +1
      3 October 2021 18: 32
      And where are the Chinese, I see the strip burning in places?. The cell phone only works in the dark. In the dark there can be anyone there. Even the Israelis, maybe they are approaching Iran from the rear! Normal heroes always go around. bully wassat
    11. +1
      3 October 2021 18: 34
      Quite an obvious development of events.
      1. +2
        3 October 2021 19: 01
        Quote: Dart2027
        Quite an obvious development of events.

        Go say the trap is free, welcome laughing
        1. +2
          3 October 2021 19: 26
          Not sure if it's a trap. The Chinese have had a friendship with them since the days of the USSR.
          1. +2
            4 October 2021 06: 18
            Quote: Dart2027
            Not sure if it's a trap. The Chinese have had a friendship with them since the days of the USSR.

            Yes, even if with someone, if only a peaceful life shines for Afghanistan. Yes
    12. +2
      3 October 2021 18: 38
      The Americans handed over the Bagram airbase to the Afghan Armed Forces. The Americans took all the critical military equipment and equipment with them. They even took out the trash after themselves.
      There was a story in the press how the local President Ghani visited Bagram airbase, where he was given a 50-bed medical hospital transferred to the Afghan army, with all the medical equipment and pills ...
      If we are to say who "abandoned" the airbase, it is the Afghan army.
      The author of the article is an inventor.
      1. +1
        3 October 2021 19: 04
        Quote: Burbulator
        The Americans took all the critical military equipment and equipment with them. They even took out the trash after themselves.

        I wonder what you refer to as critical important military equipment that is taken out with the garbage?
    13. -1
      3 October 2021 18: 43
      But what is happening in Syria:
      https://zen.yandex.ru/video/watch/613b2f5d63b0e5314ef5afaa?from=feed&utm_referrer=https%3A%2F%2Fzen.yandex.com&rid=2501518867.97.1633274931059.92435
    14. -2
      3 October 2021 19: 15
      Also, remember that the Taliban * called China their "best friend" in the world.

      I would like to believe that not the Taliban, so others will be true to their oath not to let any foreign troops ... And they will perpetrate a pogrom at the base, dragging China into the war. The harder it is for China, the better for Russia.
      1. 0
        3 October 2021 19: 24
        If only not with Tajikistan, otherwise they will become.
        1. -3
          3 October 2021 19: 33
          Only in one case will I agree to Tajikistan (basically I am also against it, like you): if China occupies it with lightning speed, excluding any escape from there. Millions of illiterate Tajiks are not needed in Russia.
          1. +2
            3 October 2021 19: 43
            There are enough educated people in Tajikistan and those who relate well to us. Even hypothetically, why scatter the imperial (albeit in the past) lands?
            1. -2
              3 October 2021 22: 50
              This is the whole point. Lands are needed, Tajiks are not needed. And if China is stupid enough to explode there too, the best option for further development of events (after the mentioned instant occupation), I see the broadest partisanship - on the part of both the Taliban and the Tajiks, after which, having suffered monstrous losses, China will finally leave the fairly thinned land. As for the educated you mentioned, they should be accepted, really. But only really high-class (lawyers-economists are not needed, they themselves have a surplus) and only on a personal basis (a crowd of relatives who know only tandoor are not needed).
              1. 0
                4 October 2021 07: 34
                Hehe, China is not the USSR or the West. He will let the entire population under the knife and populate it with the Chinese. And she won't even blink an eye. Guerrilla warfare does not work for an enemy who is actively committing genocide. (Let me remind you that the Reich had only plans for the genocide of the Slavs. And during the war, they were massively recruited into the administration, and into the troops, etc.)
                1. -1
                  4 October 2021 08: 43
                  To be honest, this is the best option. And China will specifically get dirty in the eyes of the world community, no one will forgive such a jamb for sure, and the territory will be freed from unnecessary people. Only in full growth does a new task arise: to oust China from there as soon as it finishes. Because not only Tajiks, Chinese are also not needed.
    15. +1
      3 October 2021 19: 23
      Well, probably there is not much left.
      Has China recognized the Taliban?
    16. Owl
      +1
      3 October 2021 20: 19
      The benefits that the PRC will receive from economic contacts with the Taliban are constantly hushed up: the development of minerals, their export to Pakistan, the fictitious purchase of minerals from private Pakistani companies and the further use of valuable raw materials, either for its own industry or for sale. And the PRC "does not seem to have any formal contact with the Taliban."
    17. +1
      3 October 2021 20: 56
      Information that China apparently settled on the basis of Bagram is published by the English Daily Mail. Apparently with the explicit purpose of spoiling China's reputation among the EU countries that are trying to maintain good relations with Beijing!
      Whatever US military secrets Bagram keeps, it is hard to believe that China will go for this, such serious reputational losses! The Taliban are still an international terrorist organization!
      If it really turns out that this is China, it will first turn into serious reputational, and then economic losses.
      The AUKUS bloc will win a serious ideological victory !!!
      Most likely they are really Pakistanis!
      1. 0
        3 October 2021 21: 30
        Quote: Suraikin.Aleksandr
        If it really turns out that this is China, it will first turn into serious reputational, and then economic losses.

        The PRC in Afghanistan has a rather large project for the development of a copper deposit. Afghanistan is a sales market for industrial products of the PRC. China needs transportation and energy infrastructure to profit from its copper project. At one time, the USSR refused to develop a copper ore deposit on the terms offered by the Afghans. China agreed to roughly the same terms. If the PRC comes to Afghanistan, it will limit the development of the Pakistan-Turkey-Kazakh-Azerbaijani union. In principle, the arrival of the PRC in India is also a boon for India. Surely the Taliban are interested in normal economic relations with India. Yes, and Russia should try to return to normal relations with Afghanistan, taking advantage of the flight of the State Department and the CIA from this country. It's just that our Foreign Ministry should strive to normalize Tajik-Afghan relations. Now Russia does not need aggravation between the Pashtuns on the one hand and the Tajiks or Iran on the other. For this, one can listen to reproaches from Europe and even accept new sanctions.
        1. +1
          3 October 2021 22: 09
          Apparently you do not understand how important the EU is for China. Especially against the backdrop of deteriorating relations with the United States, which actually turned into a state of cold war!
          The EU market is the second in importance and size after the United States! Do you think China is just doing billions of dollars in projects to develop transport infrastructure between China and the EU. The branch from China to Pakistan through Afghanistan is also a transport branch to quickly deliver Chinese goods to the EU countries. If Europe starts to turn its back on China, then all these infrastructure projects will go down the drain, moreover, the Chinese will not be able to sell their goods to the EU, the market will close for them.
          Benefits from projects with the participation of Afghanistan in the distant future, the Taliban have only been in power for two months and no one knows whether they will be able to keep it in the future, they have already begun to actively oppress the national minorities of Tajiks, Uzbeks, Hazaras. In such conditions, investing in Afghanistan is too risky. In a good way, the Chinese will wait until the situation stabilizes and the Taliban will begin to fulfill at least something of the promised!
          1. 0
            4 October 2021 01: 11
            Quote: Suraikin.Aleksandr
            Apparently you do not understand how important the EU is for China.

            If the PRC begins to bend politically due to fear of losing the market, then it will lose this market and the benefits from selling in other markets as well. An example before your eyes. Russia's attempts to play by European rules provoked Europe to put pressure on Russia in the area of ​​gas trade. As soon as we went to break and freeze this trade, the pressure eased. Due to the increased gas price, it will probably be more difficult for Ukraine to finance the murders of Russians in Donbass and plan genocide in Crimea. Yes, and Bulgaria and the Czech Republic at the same prices will be problematic to arm Russia's opponents in Syria and Ukraine. On the other hand, the PRC receives a region with practically untouched resources. As a country that did not introduce occupation troops, it will receive privileges. In addition, the Chinese may have just brought food and equipment for their copper mine and concentrator. The Taliban Afghans themselves will be able to protect the Chinese more cheaply and reliably. If Europe or the United States tries to harm the Chinese, then most likely they will do it with the help of the Khorosani branch of ISIS. In addition, the European margin on the sale of chemical products from China, for example, to Russia, may be 2-4 times higher than the cost of these products in China. The question is, will Pakistan allow China to enter Afghanistan? Now Pakistani intelligence has a chance to make Afghanistan obedient. And the PRC will have to work hard to establish direct cooperation with Afghanistan. The route through Tajikistan is closed due to the outbreak of hostilities in Panjshir. The countries of Central Asia listen to the opinion of Turkey, which they see as a counterweight to Russia. And Pakistan and Turkey are effectively building an alliance with an eye on both Yakutia and East Turkestan with Manchuria.
            1. 0
              4 October 2021 13: 52
              Tajikistan does not listen to the views of Turkey. Not included in the Turkic Union. The rest is true. Khorasan ISIS introduced Pakistan in order to tarnish the historical state of Tajiks - Khorasan (Khuroson) in advance.
            2. 0
              4 October 2021 19: 57
              That is, before that they always bowed before the same USA and would suddenly stop? The tradition is fresh and hard to believe, looking at how Trump pressed them, and China only responded sluggishly in response, and so as not to accidentally exacerbate the trade war started by Trump!

              You need to tell that China partially supports the anti-Crimean sanctions
              China:
              Recommended state-owned enterprises not to cooperate with Crimean companies, and also not to participate in any agreements or projects in Crimea
              In September 2015, due to sanctions, she refused to receive an official Russian delegation from Crimea.
              Chinese banks de facto joined the sanctions against Russia and began to evade lending. In addition, many Russians were forced to close accounts in Chinese banks and transfer funds to other places.
              Commercial credit institutions of the PRC began to delay transfers to the accounts of Russian banks or refuse to make payments altogether, and transactions that were not even included in the sanctions lists of companies were blocked.
              This is such a bold and independent foreign policy of the PRC!
              And do you still believe in a strong independent foreign policy of the PRC, rather than caring first of all about your wallet?
    18. +2
      3 October 2021 22: 11
      No need to tryndet, Bagram was built not by ours, but by the British, even under the Shah. Our Bagram base has only expanded
    19. 0
      3 October 2021 23: 15
      Indian press writes that Pakistanis launched Bagram! The planes seen on Bagram are also Pakistani. The Pakistanis are planning to use Bagram for military support of the Taliban, in particular, to deploy a military hospital there!
      A military delegation from China was indeed there, but visited it secretly, on transport planes of the Pakistani Air Force!
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    21. 0
      4 October 2021 01: 32
      At the same time, according to unconfirmed reports, it may be the Chinese who occupied the former stronghold of the United States.
      If this fact is confirmed, then the PRC showed the middle finger to the merikatos! laughing
    22. 0
      4 October 2021 02: 47
      Quote: Stroporez
      15 years ago I said that the Chinese auto industry would flood the world with its products, no one believed.

      You're just some kind of Vanga! Or even Cassandra!
    23. +2
      4 October 2021 09: 12
      They say about China, because ours were also going to do business in Afghanistan. We have friendly relations with China and Pakistan.
    24. 0
      4 October 2021 12: 55
      There is a good article, detailed, about Afghanistan and the reasons for everything that happens there.
      https://antifashist.com/item/kogda-u-vas-slishkom-mnogo-dvorcov-i-slishkom-mnogo-nishhih-ne-udivlyajtes-chto-k-vam-pridyot-moda-na-taliban-intervyu-andreya-serenko-antifashistu-chast-ii.html
    25. AB
      0
      4 October 2021 13: 20
      Natura ablwrret vacuum (Nature abhors a vacuum). This is the fate of Afgan. Some left, others came. Such a country can only be ruled by a dictator who is completely and completely devoted to his country. But where can you find it in our time. Today's people have one thing on their minds, more likely to steal dough and dump it into the civilized world
      1. 0
        4 October 2021 13: 47
        If you read the article (the link cited above), you will understand that all the troubles of Afghanistan are from Pakistan.
        1. AB
          0
          4 October 2021 15: 59
          Yeah, all my life everyone around is to blame, but not the people of the country where this is happening. For Ukraine, Europe and the United States, Russia is to blame for all mortal sins, and do you really believe in this? Afghanistan has its own problems. Who removed King Mohammed Zahir Shah in 1973? Afghan army men led by General Mohammed Daoud, by the way, he was a cousin of Zahir Shah and the husband of his sister. Daud was inclined to flirt with the USSR to such an extent that PDPA members helped him in the coup. For most Afghans, the coup was about nothing and was accepted as a squabble in the royal family. Well, there was one, there was another. Accordingly, no significant protests against the new regime followed. It was from this coup that everything collapsed. The reign of Zahir Shah is still considered the Golden Age in Afghanistan. And where is Pakistan.
          1. 0
            4 October 2021 17: 13
            The above facts are undeniable, but your interpretations are not entirely correct, since you are silent about the Pakistan factor. It should be clear to everyone that the problems of Afghanistan with Pakistan are the Durand line since 1893, the Afghans still disagree with the border. Chaos and a governed Afghanistan is a guarantee of border recognition. The second point is Kashmir. Pakistan is much weaker than India, in the event of a war over Kashmir, Afghanistan will be a field of retreat for Pakistan, a training ground for a war against India. Now, briefly about Daud in 1973 and how it relates to Pakistan:
            https://aftershock.news/?q=node/987938&full
            excerpt: "One of the controversial figures who advocated the rights of the Pashtuns of Pakistan was Muhammad Daud Khan. With his appointment in 1953 as Prime Minister of the country, tensions in Afghanistan's relations with Pakistan intensified. 10-year tenure of M. Daud - Khan as prime minister (1953-1963) passed under the sign of constant conflict with Pakistan, and without any "achievements" for Afghanistan. Such a policy led to a break in relations between the two countries; through the efforts of Egypt, Saudi Arabia, Iran and Turkey.

            Under M. Daudkhan, Afghanistan was forced to turn to the Soviet Union in order to modernize the army, purchase weapons and develop infrastructure, because Western countries did not approve of the country's policy of that time on the issue of Pashtunistan.

            After the overthrow of the monarchy and the coming to power of M. Daud in 1973, the issue of Pashtunistan became a stumbling block in the normalization of relations between Afghanistan and Pakistan. After coming to power in a new capacity, M. Daud announced the complete determination of his government to fight for the rights of the Pashtuns and Baluchis on the other side of the “Durand Line”. In November 1973, he sent a letter to the UN Secretary General, in which he accused Pakistan of "non-observance of the rights of the Pashtuns and Baluchis" [12].

            Considering the tough position of M. Daud regarding Pashtunistan and the "Durand line", the government of Z.A. Bhutto decided to support the Afghan Islamists who emigrated to Pakistan in their struggle against the republican regime. As it turned out later, 40 Afghan Islamists, who were undergoing military training in one of the military camps in Peshawar, in 1975 raised an unsuccessful armed uprising against M. Daoud in several regions of Afghanistan. "
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              4 October 2021 19: 04
              since 1893, Afghans still disagree with the border

              Yes, a long time ago, they put everything on the disagreement of Afghanistan. Since 1955, they have not been asked for consent. Pakistan, which at that time was supervised by the United States, presented with a fact and Daoud, being the head of government, wiped himself out. And it's not about the boundaries, but in domestic politics... Having proclaimed Afghanistan a Republic, Daoud immediately began to tighten the screws. The Parliament and the Supreme Court were dissolved, and the activities of political parties were banned. The state got into the economy. Land reform was carried out. Taken from the rich and given to the peasants for ransom... Many were nationalized private companies, including all private banks... He began to purge the state apparatus from the left and democrats. By the way, he cleaned them all out, replacing the professionals with the right-wing clumsy loyalists. That's when the collapse of Afghanistan began.
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                4 October 2021 20: 23
                These facts are not denied. They completely influenced the development. But Pakistan is concerned about the border issue, it is not settled. About 50 million Pashtuns want autonomy and the border is controversial. Despite the fact that the packs have a signed border treaty. In my opinion, received from the bloody Najib.
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      4 October 2021 13: 56
      Here are those and times!
      And here's two for you!
      A holy place is never empty
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      5 October 2021 10: 16
      Do the Chinese want to tame the bandits? Or walking with your head under your arm? These students don't care whose necks they cut - American or Chinese.
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      5 October 2021 12: 21
      There are many good and necessary words, but only, in material terms, these words are not supported by anything, and then the question arises, who needs it, and who is spreading these tales. Doesn't look like friends of China, aren't the ears of the minke whales sticking out here ?:

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