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Putin's Russia. What is she like?

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Tell me, how often do you have to explain to people that it is dark at night, that it can sometimes rain from the sky, and human life will end sooner or later?



I suppose that it is not often, because things that are obvious in evidence do not need. It would seem so, but, alas, ah ...

As for me, I do this quite often. For example, not so long ago I explained to a friend that salary is better than not having it. That a black BMW with a flasher is bothering me less than a dozen jeeps with shaved bros and guns quietly smoking at McDonald's that 6-8% inflation is better than 600-800%. And you know, I had problems with arguments. Just from such a dispute sometimes you just get lost, not knowing what to say.

Probably everyone has already guessed that we are talking about Russia over the past two decades. I conditionally divide them into Russia Yeltsin and Putin's Russia.

Liberals unanimously say that it was better in Yeltsin, for example Artemy Lebedev was more cheerful, Novodvorskaya was freer, Nemtsov was richer, and Mr. Shenderovich had his own TV program and a large selection of mattresses. What was the rest of the citizens - the citizens, and so remember. At the same time, all liberal figures in one voice shout that the people were impoverished under Putin. I thought for a long time why this is so, because they speak sincerely and with a pure heart, because they didn’t really survive out of their minds (although such an option is acceptable). ?

The answer was suggested to me by one of the articles of Ms. Latynina. The bottom line is that the people are liberals. All the others who are in uniform and go to work are cattle, lumpens and people cannot be called them. With this interpretation, everything becomes clearer. It’s clear that Governor Nemtsov lived richer than Nemtsov-grant-eater ...

So how do we compare the two Russia and get an objective assessment? Where is better and where is worse?

If the people are bad and the liberals are bad, then the help of a third party is needed.

Let's put aside statistics on GDP growth and wages - it is completely “surkovskaya propaganda”

There we will send all the figures for revenues, for production growth, for the construction of new facilities, in general for all the good things that are so hated by the progressive public - because all these figures are drawn from nowhere by an insidious Kremlin for their cattle-voter ...

Let us give the floor to a person from the West who is kept by the cleverest even the most orthodox orange bogger.

So, two Russia. The word to Zbignev Brzezinski is that no one has ever suspected him of sympathy for Russia.

Let's support this statement with a demotivator.

Putin's Russia. What is she like?


So read and do not say that you have not read.

Russia Yeltsin.

“Russia is a bankrupt in all respects country, which should plunge into chaos, poverty and continuous ethnic conflicts in the coming years. Russia is a “black hole” that does not have any geopolitical choice in its life, because in essence it is only about its physical survival in its purest form. Russia needs to be divided into parts, it will then consist of a loose confederation of European Russia, the Siberian Republic and the Far Eastern Republic, which, individually, would be much easier to establish close economic relations with Europe, the new Central Asian states and with the East. However, any integration of Russia into the expanded world order of the West is impossible, Russia is too backward a country, economically brought communism to poverty, and therefore it is unable to become a more or less suitable democratic partner for the USA. Russia is a defeated geopolitical rival, and takes the place of a weak, backward, problematic and surrounded on all sides of the country, which is denied the role of any respected geopolitical player. "

Z. Brzezinski, "The Big Chessboard", 1997 g

The same author, only Russia is now Putin

“If the West fails to conclude a long-term strategic alliance with Russia, then this may turn into global isolation for it. This is all the more important given the current rapprochement between China and Russia. The global dominance of one single power - the United States in the world is no longer possible, no matter how strong or weak. This is especially true of the situation when new regional powers entered the world arena. The West can still avoid the fate of global isolation and international repression. But for this you need to breathe new, life-giving forces into it and develop a new strategy and plan of action. For the West, this New Strategy should consist in being able to integrate Russia and Turkey into the international system of the West. ”

Z. Brzezinski, "Strategic enlightenment", 2012 g


Here, strictly speaking, that's all. What is called feel the difference.
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  1. Sasha 19871987
    Sasha 19871987 12 September 2012 08: 32
    +22
    we have always been underestimated and will be underestimated ... fools ....
    1. INTER
      INTER 12 September 2012 08: 42
      +1
      This B. Zbigniew looks like a zombie trying to infect everything. wassat
      1. Dmitriy69
        Dmitriy69 12 September 2012 09: 23
        +6
        The speeches of this comrade always clearly reflected the essence of Western policy. She's a bastard, but she speaks openly about the aspirations of our sworn "friends"
    2. Redpartyzan
      Redpartyzan 12 September 2012 08: 49
      +7
      Baaa look at how you spoke. Here is the answer to all the white bandages. Russia rises from its knees, not without problems but it is a fact! And yesterday’s article, Russia under Putin, demonstrates everything in numbers.
      1. Alexss
        Alexss 12 September 2012 09: 40
        -19
        hmm .. to refer to the words "political prostitute" and pass them off as something authoritative is at least stupid!
        1. DYMITRY
          DYMITRY 12 September 2012 09: 57
          +19
          Quote: AlexSS
          hmm .. to refer to the words "political prostitute" and pass them off as something authoritative is at least stupid!

          And since when did Brzezinski become a prostitute ???? belay Well, he’s just never changed his mind, a monstrous Russophobe !!! Vrazhina is yes, a vile warrior, a vile reptile, I agree with everything, but not a prostitute.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 12 September 2012 11: 20
            +5
            Quote: DYMITRY
            And since when did Brzezinski become a prostitute ???? belay Well, he’s just never changed his mind, a monstrous Russophobe !!! Vrazhina is yes, a vile warrior, vile reptile, I agree with everything, but not a prostitute.
            This is precisely noticed +
          2. Kaa
            Kaa 12 September 2012 11: 25
            +3
            Quote: DYMITRY
            Well, he’s just never changed his mind,
            I didn't change it, but as I started singing now, a completely different tonality. As our William used to say, do you understand Shakespeare, "Something rotted in Danish
            U.S. Kingdom of Paul, or also like Reagan and Thatcher Alzheimer visited.
        2. red 015
          red 015 12 September 2012 17: 26
          +2
          Yes, he is a creature that hates Russia, but this "political prostitute", as you put it, is a very smart and far-sighted person, such analysts are worth their weight in gold and the US leadership appreciate his opinion
        3. Cynic
          Cynic 13 September 2012 17: 14
          0
          Quote: AlexSS
          hmm .. refer to the words "political prostitute" and pass them off as something authoritative

          Hmm.
          In the mid-60s he was appointed a member of the planning department of the state department. He was the first to explain everything that happens in socialist countries from the standpoint of the concept of totalitarianism. The author of the global strategy of anti-communism, the theory of the technotronic era and the concept of a new type of American hegemony. In the 60s, he was an adviser to the Kennedy and Johnson administrations, and took a tough line in relation to the Soviet Union. At the end of the term, Johnson was the foreign policy adviser to Vice President Humphrey and his presidential campaign. A consistent critic of Nixon-Kissinger politics.
          In 1977-1981, he served as National Security Advisor to the Carter Administration. He was an active supporter of the CIA's secret program to engage the USSR in a costly and possibly distracting military conflict, which, after the outbreak of the Afghan war, wrote to President Carter: [5] [6] “Now we have a chance to give the Soviet Union its Vietnam War.”

          Take a chance dear Alexss, oh, risk it. They will leave without a bonus, or even be fined.
          bully
      2. Ross
        Ross 12 September 2012 23: 39
        +1
        Redpartyzan,
        Gentlemen from the World Government missed something, their protege Bzezhinsky is forced to make excuses.
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 08: 49
      +15
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      we have always been underestimated and will be underestimated.


      I do not agree, the apparent underestimation is just an attempt to represent the Russians as bears and subhuman, as Napoleon, Hitler, etc. have always been. but in fact they are well aware that


      A preventive war against Russia is suicide because of the fear of death. - Bismarck. (collector of German lands)

      Russians have always been underestimated, but meanwhile they know how to keep secrets not only from enemies, but also from friends.

      Russians may seem narrow-minded, impudent or even stupid people, but it remains only to pray to those who get in their way

      Churchill
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 12 September 2012 09: 12
        +9
        Vadim good day.
        Quote: Vadivak
        but in fact they are well aware that


        Bismarck had something else, about the separation of Ukraine from Russia, which, in principle, was done. Separately, it’s hard for us to resist.

        Once again, Zbigniew did much so that the seed of discord would be thrown into the fertile soil.
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 12 September 2012 09: 27
          +6
          Quote: vorobey
          Vadim good day.


          Healthy Sasha,
          Quote: vorobey
          Bismarck had something else, about the separation of Ukraine from Russia,


          Divide and conquer, I am aware that this German dreamed of an independent Ukraine, well, the German dream came true
          1. Alexander Romanov
            Alexander Romanov 12 September 2012 09: 49
            +4
            Quote: Vadivak
            well, the German dream came true

            It’s only from the realization of this dream that the Germans now have a little headache in the winter, so as not to freeze without gas. Yes, and there will be no separation for long, artificially divided peoples will still be united.
            1. Odessa
              Odessa 12 September 2012 10: 15
              +9
              Alexander Romanov,
              Only from the realization of this dream, the Germans now have a smut in the winter, so as not to freeze without gas.

              Do not freeze, your GDP suggested that the Germans heat wood laughing
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 September 2012 10: 22
                +7
                Quote: Odessa
                Do not freeze, your GDP suggested that the Germans heat wood

                And he also suggested going to Siberia for them laughing
                1. Odessa
                  Odessa 12 September 2012 10: 24
                  +2
                  Alexander Romanov,
                  And he also suggested going to Siberia for them

                  Yes, even at logging, let the Fritz work. wassat


                  By the way, I slept without hind legs, laughing so what Odessa girl sent you sms all night? wassat
                  1. Vadivak
                    Vadivak 12 September 2012 10: 35
                    +3
                    Quote: Odessa
                    Yes, even felling, let the Fritz work


                    Well, this thing they have not forgotten

                    Comrade Stalin also found an adequate response to the theft of Soviet citizens to work in Germany.
                    In January - April 1945, 208 thousand civilian internees were brought to the USSR for use at work, primarily in Belarus and Ukraine (according to other sources, 303 thousand), including 51 138 women, who were reduced to 221 workers battalion.
            2. Kaa
              Kaa 12 September 2012 11: 35
              +5
              Quote: Alexander Romanov
              artificially divided peoples will unite anyway.

              And again, Bismarck foresaw this "Even the most favorable outcome of the war will never lead to the disintegration of the main force of Russia, which is based on millions of Russians ... These latter, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, rejoin each other as quickly as particles of a cut piece mercury ... "And in Germany this figure seems to be very much respected ...
              1. Alexander Romanov
                Alexander Romanov 12 September 2012 11: 45
                +2
                Quote: Kaa
                These latter, even if they are dismembered by international treatises, are as quickly reconnected with each other as particles of a cut piece of mercury

                You’re right, Kaa, just politicians will lose presidential power and much more when they unite the people. For the peoples, the division did not give a good thing, but unification will lead to the consolidation of production and the general rise of economies.
                1. Kaa
                  Kaa 12 September 2012 20: 37
                  +1
                  Quote: Alexander Romanov
                  politicians who unite the people will lose presidential power and much more
                  If it was a matter of politicians .... Remember, in the old song "Puppets are being pulled by the strings ..." Our businessmen will be poorer, they are afraid that the Russian business will swallow their businesses and not notice. Our president, for example, is proud that when he was the "governor" of the Donetsk region, Russian business did not let Russian business go there, and now he is on a national scale. And this is not the worst possible ...
              2. mongoose
                mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 08
                +3
                abortion was allowed in 18, and we became fewer
        2. Dimka off
          Dimka off 12 September 2012 09: 42
          +8
          Quote: vorobey
          about the separation of Ukraine from Russia

          Yes, it is done and it is very sad. In Ukraine itself, there is a confrontation between west and east. As Bismarck said, they did so - national traitors are cultivated, the people forgot that he is Russian, a terrible hatred of everything Russian is cultivated ...
          I hope that everything will work out and someday we will be together again - Russia, Ukraine and Belarus - Holy Russia. Then we will be invincible and strong.
        3. mongoose
          mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 06
          +2
          separately? Thanks to the Communists for their Russian people!
          and ukroina is doomed, without the rest of Russia.
    4. woland05
      woland05 12 September 2012 08: 57
      +10
      Oh no, comrade! You're wrong! If we were underestimated, we would not seek to destroy us. Quite the contrary, THEY know our strength, they know our capabilities. That’s why they hate us. And we must hate them. For in this confrontation, a draw is only a temporary result. And the final result could be only one - either they will bury us, or we will them.
      1. sahha
        sahha 12 September 2012 09: 14
        +11
        Quote: woland05
        And we must hate them


        Hatred is evil.
        Hatred turns off the mind.
        Let them rage with hatred, we must have a sound, cold mind and a clear sequence of actions!
        1. Kaa
          Kaa 12 September 2012 20: 39
          +2
          Quote: sahha
          we must have a healthy, cold mind
          They owe us something for the collapse of the USSR and the "dashing 90s". But revenge is a dish served cold.
      2. esaul
        esaul 12 September 2012 09: 19
        +3
        Xnumx tankist

        Zhenya, I greet you, colleague. Thanks for the helpful article. Sometimes it is necessary - not to enter into a fruitless discussion, especially when the opponent is not ready to listen calmly to another opinion, but by concrete comparisons. After all, the saying - "Everything is learned in comparison" has not been canceled. Plus your job, buddy. drinks

        1. 1tankist
          12 September 2012 09: 40
          +5
          Quote: esaul
          Thanks for the helpful article. Sometimes it is necessary - not to enter into a fruitless discussion, especially when the opponent is not ready to calmly listen to another opinion, but with concrete comparisons. After all, the saying - "Everything is learned in comparison" has not been canceled. Plus your job buddy


          Good morning, Valery. I am sincerely glad to see you and your assessment. drinks
          It annoys me when people suddenly, without special knowledge, become specialists in one field or another and begin to criticize everyone and everything for all steps without exception. They chose power and let them criticize it because it began to fight corruption, turned to face the army and takes measures to equip it, began to develop the Far East, trying to introduce advanced technologies in other countries into the industry, etc.
          We all wanted this, but for some reason some people don't like it. P ... t (speak not in substance) - do not defame the bags. laughing
          Although, to be honest, not many of the living people would like to return to 90. Of course, not everything still works out, but to subject everything to indiscriminate criticism is somehow not human. Therefore, let the forum users get acquainted with the opinions of experts, friendly and not very.
          Thanks again buddy drinks
          1. ughhh
            ughhh 12 September 2012 09: 55
            +2
            Although, to be honest, not many of the living people would like to return to the 90s.

            if, thanks to Novodvorskaya, Nemtsov and other liberals, we return to the 90s, they and their families will regret it first.
            1. mongoose
              mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 10
              +4
              ??? there are parallels, one ethnic group came to power in 17, of which he was put against the wall by Dzhugashvilli. in 1991 they came to power in a different way, after 2000, many went to London laughing
          2. esaul
            esaul 12 September 2012 10: 09
            +3
            Quote: 1tankist
            criticize everything


            Zhenya, thanks here for these words - a separate one. they - there is support for my words, but the fact that it is
            Quote: 1tankist
            somehow not human

            - Stopudova truth, what can be expected from such .... request
          3. baltika-18
            baltika-18 12 September 2012 12: 30
            -2
            Quote: 1tankist
            Therefore, let the forum users get acquainted with the opinions of experts, friendly and not very.

            But who is the expert, Brzezinski? He sculpts what is ordered to him, what is beneficial at the given time. In the coffin I saw such specialists, and even in white slippers
      3. gordeew_alr
        gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 09: 49
        +8
        I can not agree that they know our strength. I am afraid that we do not have so many people who are aware of it. And this power is in our Orthodox religion of God. All these dashing years, only the Church consistently worked on the revival of the Russian (invincible in the opinion of the same West) spirit. They understand the power of this spirit, but they cannot understand how and where it is reborn even after seemingly mortally crushing blows. And this spirit is strong in that its strength is not aimed at breaking the ridges, but at appeasing the warring, even if the presence of physical power serves this. But this physical power is not predatory, but warning: do not attack, calm down. Hence the conclusion that we need to take more care of our confession of God and work on the improvement of our Russian home, our united Russia, and other peoples will not change us remembering how well they lived in fraternal union with the Russian people, and restore the structure of state unity. And such as Georgia, probably, are among the first to return.
        1. ughhh
          ughhh 12 September 2012 09: 58
          -1
          And this power is in our Orthodox religion of God.

          You are giving too much influence to Orthodoxy. Although, we have a dime a dozen religions, and we lived for 70 years practically without Orthodoxy. Personally, for example, I do not accept official religions, I consider them "Masonic" tales, my God is different and I ask you not to impose your understanding of the Faith on me.
          And faith in God is necessary, yes, otherwise Satanism.
          1. gordeew_alr
            gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 11: 17
            +4
            I wish you to catch at least one fish from this pond-pond and examine it more closely - whether it is suitable for food. I’m afraid that what you called a dime a dozen is actually a pool. Well, God forbid you to deal with religious fears and not fall into Satanism. And personally, I don’t impose anything on you, because I don’t even know you. As for my confession, with all my heart I would like to belong to Christ, and today I do not see another Church that would have remained faithful to Him like the Orthodox Church. This is about me. And what you choose for yourself is your business and your life. I can only wish you the achievement of good results in your way.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 12 September 2012 12: 39
              -2
              Quote: gordeew_alr
              gordeew_alr

              Alexander, I agree to enter into a personal discussion with you about the benefits and harms of religions. If you agree: suggestions on how to communicate.
              1. gordeew_alr
                gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 13: 14
                +2
                As I understand it, you crave a fight. Is this a way of knowing? What?
                I realized for myself the benefits of Christianity and for all mankind. You seem to be going to dissuade me? Why do you need this?
                Or maybe you want to clarify something for yourself, maybe you have some ambiguities? You can’t say this according to your remarks. It seems you are quite firm in your beliefs.
                What is the point of a discussion if both sides are firmly convinced? Or are you looking for advertising for your views?
                I see the point in the conversation, if there is a desire to figure out what is true, and if the parties are willing to conduct a friendly dialogue. Not because I'm afraid of being beaten, but for the simple reason that when a person is set to fight, he is not able to understand the opposite side. So the meaning of the conversation is completely lost.
          2. mongoose
            mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 11
            +4
            n-dya, did it ever occur to you, my friend, that socialism was born in a Jewish environment, to destroy Christianity? and that the "advanced" people of the 19th early 20th centuries, morally do not differ in any way from pusek?
            eh! the "official" religion? Well, look at what the Protestants have degenerated into, they denied the same "official" religion, then they themselves created their own, but much harsher and more inhuman than Catholicism, the example of the Indians (in Latin America they are alive and or were mixed, in the north they are multiplied by zero) and Indians to you familiar? moreover, in their denial of the official religion, they sunk to homosexual marriages and "priests" of homosexuals.
            1. ughhh
              ughhh 12 September 2012 12: 57
              0
              Yes, that's exactly what I was talking about. They turned faith into a booth. And Protestants and Catholics and other Christian Jews. In Asia, there are Muslims who kill children under the green flag, for example. And solid slogans and appeals. Not religions, but political parties directly. The competitive spirit is good too. "And our religion, look, it's more humane!"
              People have no understanding why they need God.
          3. gordeew_alr
            gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 12: 19
            +2
            Please forgive me for having lost some of my personality.
            Do you know another power? After all, it was about power. Call her. Maybe justify your views? Maybe we get an interesting conversation?
            1. ughhh
              ughhh 12 September 2012 13: 08
              0
              I know another power of what? Strength of mind? The strength of the Orthodox spirit? I do not understand the question.
              Let's just say that I do not equate the Russian spirit and the Orthodox spirit. Orthodoxy is only a shade of the picture of Russian civilization.
              As for faith, the most interesting vision of God for me is presented in the Concept of Public Security (BER). Much more reasoned than in the official vision of the Russian Orthodox Church, for example.
              Therefore, the fact that I am not a Christian does not make me less Russian. And the Russian spirit in me is quite strong.
              1. gordeew_alr
                gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 14: 55
                0
                It was about what made this brutal enemy of Russia Brzezinski moderate his ambitions. This is the power of Orthodoxy; he himself testifies to this. They did everything they could in the last century to destroy Orthodoxy in Russia, and already thought that they had achieved the goal, but it turned out that they had deceived themselves. The fact that you say that the Russian spirit is quite strong in you is an additional confirmation of this.
                As for the terms, "Russian" comes from "Russian Christian". There is not a single people in the world that would be called an adjective - all by a noun: Georgian, Pole, Ethiopian, Mongolian, Englishman, etc. The Russians were formed after the baptism of Rus and were distinguished by the fact that they embraced Christianity so deeply (even you now, centuries later, feel the Russian spirit in yourself, although the mind is looking for something else), that the noun (being) in their name became "Christian". Then the "Christian" was transformed into a "peasant", and then the peasants were destroyed by the Bolsheviks and capitalists as a class. About which Mr. Brzezinski was happy. It's too early. Christians, they could not overcome the Spirit of Christ.
                There is one more circumstance for understanding. Russians are not a nation. This is a people whose affiliation declare people of various nationalities, and completely free will. Russians include Tatars, Bashkirs, Mordovians, and Karelians, and a representative of any nation who thinks in Russian and feels his conscience in Russian. This gives reason to talk about Russian civilization, and not the belonging of the Russians to their antiquity. If it weren’t for Christ, the Rusics would long ago have been wiped off the face of the earth for the richness of their lands, just as many American Indians had been wiped off the face of the Earth.
                I am not familiar with the affairs of the KOB, so I cannot say anything about her. KOB members, probably, should have been called "conceptuals" or something like that - by the name of their ideology (or religion), and the Russians are Christians.
                1. mongoose
                  mongoose 13 September 2012 08: 43
                  -1
                  English, and so on, nonsense by the way ukroinsky not tired of repeating?
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 12 September 2012 12: 35
          -9
          Quote: gordeew_alr
          All these bitter years, only the Church has consistently worked on the revival of the Russian (invincible in the opinion of the same West) spirit. They understand the power of this spirit, but they cannot understand how and where about

          The church has been working all these years to earn more money, to chop off more property for no reason. Her spirit is on the drum.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 12 September 2012 12: 38
            +2
            Yes, you leave the church to believers that you always drag it, and to the place, and not to the place. PS: minus from me.
            1. baltika-18
              baltika-18 12 September 2012 12: 48
              -6
              You too. I didn’t drag, I answered, it’s not for me to whip.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 12
                +1
                Understand religion is a very complex topic, and not for us to talk about it.
                1. baltika-18
                  baltika-18 12 September 2012 13: 21
                  -2
                  Quote: Allex28

                  Understand religion is a very complex topic, and not for us to talk about it.

                  And who can talk about it? She, that thing in herself. Itself for yourself. And you believe and that's it.
          2. urzul
            urzul 12 September 2012 12: 42
            +1
            Wrong church you went to
          3. ughhh
            ughhh 12 September 2012 13: 24
            +3
            Quote: baltika-18
            The church has been working all these years to earn more money, to chop off more property for no reason. Her spirit is on the drum.

            By such statements you insult not only the church, but also millions of sincerely believing people. Therefore, you scoop up the cons quite justifiably, although there is some truth in your words.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 12 September 2012 14: 33
              +2
              Quote: ughhh
              By such statements you insult not only the church, but also millions of sincerely believing people. Therefore, you scoop up the cons quite justifiably, although there is some truth in your words
              I fully support. Yes and Yeshe If you blame something, then please the facts, and do not grind your tongue for nothing.
          4. gordeew_alr
            gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 14: 28
            +1
            Listen, well, let's talk seriously, this yellowness has long gone bad.
    5. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 19
      +2
      Quote: sasha 19871987
      fools ....

      Yes, they are far from stupid ......... hi
    6. Andrey64
      Andrey64 12 September 2012 16: 03
      +3
      Dear Sirs! I read the article, thanks to Eugene (1tankist), read the comments, and ........ to say the least was horrified ?! Wrong things you discuss !!! The whole chatter (in other words, excuse me in any way), with the exception of a few comments somewhere deep down, came down to a discussion of what this old horseradish said Bzhezh .. Bzhiz - pah ... well him. I think the position of this shot in relation to Russia is known to many of those present here for a long time. Another thing is important, and this lies in these lines:
      ...Tell me, how often do you have to explain to people that it is dark at night, that it can sometimes rain from the sky, and human life will end sooner or later? I suppose that it is not often, because things that are obvious in evidence do not need. It would seem so, but, alas, ah ..........
      That's right, Eugene (to the author), ALA AND AH ..... Unfortunately, we still have a considerable percentage of people who do not want to take into account the obvious things, and are sincerely convinced that Putin is a thief and the country is heading into the abyss (and these are also present on the forum). I do not take into account those who sold out for money - everything is clear with them. Here we are talking about those who are FOR the Motherland, but when asked why Putin is a thief? - answer: "I don't know, everyone says", "Thief and that's it ..." These "iron arguments" are killing on the spot. But at a certain moment (God forbid, of course) these people can make the wrong choice and then .... as they say - A SON TO FATHER !!!
      1. gordeew_alr
        gordeew_alr 12 September 2012 22: 39
        0
        You speak so harshly ... But meanwhile, what you are discussing here sounds in your words. You are afraid that the son will go to the father. Already coming. Take a closer look.
        What can stop this process? Praise to the president? How? This process can stop the correction of the spiritual world of a person, so that with his conscience he stops himself from, to put it mildly, unseemly acts. And this is not only in order to stop the hostility within our people (this civil war that did not end), but also in order to find the strength in itself to restore the people's life. The restoration of man, his vitality, and is engaged in the Russian Church. Well, it’s obvious that for good deeds, and the matter of saving the Fatherland is undoubtedly good, good, strong-willed, loyal, honest, conscientious people are needed. Evil good will not wait. And how to revive, correct a person, today only the Church knows. Therefore, the Orthodox do not get tired of talking to the public about this. Therefore, the enemies of the Fatherland strike right here, because they understand the role of Orthodoxy in the fate of Russia. It is very sad that the inhabitants of Russia themselves do not want to understand and accept this. In this, the enemies, their propaganda and deception, are so far successful. Temporary. Church of Christ will not prevail over the gates of hell. And our people will still see clearly. Already shedding light.
  2. Baron Wrangell
    Baron Wrangell 12 September 2012 08: 37
    +11
    You cannot suspect this shot in love for Russia! And stupid too!
    If he began to write such a thing, then something must have really moved in the world. Maybe Russia really has already knelt down after Yeltsin, stands on its feet, maybe still swaying, but it stands. By the way, much can be seen at a distance, and we will see Putin’s work a few years later! But the fact that under his leadership we did not fall into a civil war and thanks!
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 08: 51
      +7
      Quote: Baron Wrangel
      Russia has already risen from its knees after Yeltsin,


      Under Yeltsin, we did not kneel, we lay ...... you yourself know what
      1. танк
        танк 12 September 2012 09: 18
        +10
        Under Yeltsin, we did not kneel, we lay ...... you yourself know what

        VadivakI agree to 100, my family lived under Yeltsin at the expense of their agriculture (there was a small piece of land left), that we ourselves will grow, feed, and eat. Now it’s much easier to breathe. I don’t even want to compare these two stretches of life — it's heaven and land ... And no Brzezinski is needed here ...
      2. nycsson
        nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 18
        -4
        Quote: Vadivak
        Under Yeltsin, we did not kneel, we lay ...... you yourself know what

        That's for sure, but now we stand ........... crying
        Of course it is sad...........
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 12 September 2012 10: 37
          +4
          Quote: nycsson
          That's for sure, but now we stand ........... crying
          Of course it is sad...........
          So to the place of standing go go to work .-
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 04
            -1
            Quote: Allex28
            a place to stand, go to work.

            Yes I'm working.......
        2. mongoose
          mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 17
          +4
          you are apparently standing, but I and my homeland are not! answer for yourself
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 05
            -4
            Quote: mongoose
            you are apparently standing, but I and my homeland are not!

            This is all exaggerated of course ...........
            Quote: mongoose
            and I and my homeland are not! answer for yourself

            Respond for yourself .......
    2. valokordin
      valokordin 12 September 2012 08: 53
      0
      Thank you, Baron, please specify.
    3. Purgen
      Purgen 12 September 2012 13: 45
      +4
      Baron Wrangel. I completely agree with your post.
      IMHO Brzezinski (an informal mouthpiece of the geo-strategies of NATO and the USA) changed the tone of statements only because the West felt a breath of fire in the back of the Chinese dragon. And he began to fear (and seriously fear) China. He began flirting with Russia, only as a buffer country between Europe and China. And as with a potential participant in the military conflict between China and the Western world on the side of the West. The main thing for us is not to get involved in these provocative designs of the Anglo-Saxons. Once in the 20th century they solved the problem of imperialism in Germany with our hands. And approximately the same role is assigned to Russia in its confrontation with China. God forbid that we take to the sweet speeches of this ghoul and his friends.
      And Brzezinski, as he was, remained the terrible Russophobe, and the enemy of the whole Russian world. Only songs sang a little different. But everything is the same in my head.
  3. badhoy
    badhoy 12 September 2012 08: 39
    +4
    The Second World War was also supposed to end according to the most pessimistic forecasts in a month .... BUT ..........
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 08: 56
      +3
      Quote: plohoy
      The Second World War was also supposed to end according to the most pessimistic forecasts in a month.


      This is for propagandists, in fact, they tried to avoid wars ....
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 17
      -2
      Quote: plohoy
      The Second World War was also supposed to end according to the most pessimistic forecasts in a month .... BUT ..........

      These methods no longer work! The plan has been worked out for a long time and is being implemented, but not everything is going smoothly with them, but it is being adjusted .......... And so far, everything is working out for them, to my deep regret ........
  4. Vanek
    Vanek 12 September 2012 08: 40
    +4
    But interestingly, when Brzezinski spoke of Putin's Russia in 2012, did he remember what 15 said years ago?

    Hello to everyone.
    1. 1tankist
      12 September 2012 08: 48
      +5
      In 1997, he buried Russia, but it turned out to be stronger than he thought. In 2012 he regained his sight, it is not for nothing that his article is called "Strategic Insight".
      Although he is still a bad person laughing
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 12 September 2012 08: 59
        +5
        “I remember, but I don’t remember!”
        1. 1tankist
          12 September 2012 09: 07
          +2
          Quote: Vanek
          “I remember, but I don’t remember!”

          laughing good drinks
      2. vorobey
        vorobey 12 September 2012 09: 09
        +5
        I welcome you friends. Clever this zbignev, a strong enemy. but the main thing is not hiding it as some friends, and therefore not so scary.

        http://www.usinfo.ru/bzhezinskij.htm

        http://www.russianskz.info/politics/3620-glavnyy-ideolog-holodnoy-voyny-predstav
        il-novuyu-knigu-dlya-bzhezinskogo-eto-hobbi-vredit-rossii.html

        The main thing that he sees further than some politicians.
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 01
          0
          Quote: vorobey
          Clever this zbignev, a strong enemy.

          Dulles receiver! And that says a lot!
          Quote: vorobey
          The main thing that he sees further than some politicians.

          Some politicians do not see anything further than their nose .......
      3. Ivan Kalinovich
        Ivan Kalinovich 12 September 2012 11: 16
        +1
        Bad man = radish laughing
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 09
          -3
          Quote: Ivan Kalinovich
          Bad man = radish

          Thank God that you are good, and most importantly smart .......
      4. Kaa
        Kaa 12 September 2012 20: 49
        +2
        Quote: 1tankist
        In 2012, he received his sight,
        And his like-minded Kli torsha is still unbending, or is progress possible too?
    2. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 15
      -4
      Quote: Vanek
      But interestingly, when Brzezinski spoke of Putin's Russia in 2012, did he remember what 15 said years ago?

      And what did he say?
      Quote: Vanek
      Hello to everyone.

      And we wish you good health .........
      1. 1tankist
        12 September 2012 09: 24
        +7
        Alexey, hello, everything is in the article.
        Duplicate:
        “Russia is a bankrupt in all respects country, which should plunge into chaos, poverty and continuous ethnic conflicts in the coming years. Russia is a “black hole” that does not have any geopolitical choice in its life, because in essence it is only about its physical survival in its purest form. Russia needs to be divided into parts, it will then consist of a loose confederation of European Russia, the Siberian Republic and the Far Eastern Republic, which, individually, would be much easier to establish close economic relations with Europe, the new Central Asian states and with the East. However, any integration of Russia into the expanded world order of the West is impossible, Russia is too backward a country, economically brought communism to poverty, and therefore it is unable to become a more or less suitable democratic partner for the USA. Russia is a defeated geopolitical rival, and takes the place of a weak, backward, problematic and surrounded on all sides of the country, which is denied the role of any respected geopolitical player. "

        Z. Brzezinski, "The Big Chessboard", 1997 g
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 44
          -5
          Quote: 1tankist
          Z. Brzezinski, "The Big Chessboard", 1997 g

          Hello! Everything goes to this ....... crying
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 12 September 2012 09: 56
            +6
            Quote: nycsson
            All to this and ide


            No, you read his last creation. Think one-sidedly. the world has turned upside down a bit over the years. And already Zbigniew himself emphasizes that now the West is on the verge of 82 years, as when the Soviet Union
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 00
              -4
              Quote: vorobey
              And already Zbigniew himself emphasizes that now the West is on the verge of 82 years, as when the Soviet Union

              Dust in the eyes!
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 15
                +3
                Quote: nycsson
                Dust in the eyes!


                Yes Yes.
              2. Purgen
                Purgen 12 September 2012 22: 10
                0
                Nixon. I fully support your post. "Dust in your eyes" and that's it. Fragile bait. No more. The fact that the global MMM in the face of the dollar staggered. This is YES. But it’s too long for this pyramid to stagger, so that the ghost of the Soviet Union in 82 would appear in their eyes. A lot of people are involved in this pyramid. To take all the fucking together at once. Although such a scenario is not excluded (the idea of ​​creating a single currency for the USA, Canada, Mexico was not in vain sounded out by the "amero")
          2. 1tankist
            12 September 2012 10: 23
            +5
            Quote: nycsson
            Hello! Everything goes to this .......

            You are an interesting person, Alexey. laughing
            I completely duplicate the words of Brzezinski. Namely, what he said 15 years ago, that is, in the 1997 year and, what he said now, that is, in the 2012 year.

            Russia Yeltsin.
            “Russia is a bankrupt in all respects country, which should plunge into chaos, poverty and continuous ethnic conflicts in the coming years. Russia is a “black hole” that does not have any geopolitical choice in its life, because in essence it is only about its physical survival in its purest form. Russia needs to be divided into parts, it will then consist of a loose confederation of European Russia, the Siberian Republic and the Far Eastern Republic, which, individually, would be much easier to establish close economic relations with Europe, the new Central Asian states and with the East. However, any integration of Russia into the expanded world order of the West is impossible, Russia is too backward a country, economically brought communism to poverty, and therefore it is unable to become a more or less suitable democratic partner for the USA. Russia is a defeated geopolitical rival, and takes the place of a weak, backward, problematic and surrounded on all sides of the country, which is denied the role of any respected geopolitical player. "
            Z. Brzezinski, "The Big Chessboard", 1997 g


            The same author, only Russia is now Putin
            “If the West fails to conclude a long-term strategic alliance with Russia, then this may turn into global isolation for it. This is all the more important given the current rapprochement between China and Russia. The global dominance of one single power - the United States in the world is no longer possible, no matter how strong or weak. This is especially true of the situation when new regional powers entered the world arena. The West can still avoid the fate of global isolation and international repression. But for this you need to breathe new, life-giving forces into it and develop a new strategy and plan of action. For the West, this New Strategy should consist in being able to integrate Russia and Turkey into the international system of the West. ”
            Z. Brzezinski, "Strategic enlightenment", 2012 g


            Feel the difference wink
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 39
              -1
              Quote: 1tankist
              Feel the difference

              I felt .......... hi
            2. Ivan Kalinovich
              Ivan Kalinovich 12 September 2012 11: 21
              +4
              Who are you trying to explain something to? Nixon is a trololo !!!
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 08
                -1
                Quote: Ivan Kalinovich
                Nixon is a trololo !!!

                So no one has called me yet ........ negative
                1. Che
                  Che 13 September 2012 13: 19
                  +3
                  nycsson,
                  Putin's Russia is not Yeltsin. Yes, the work of the sea, the problems of the sea. We must overcome everything, I believe our grandchildren will live better. Anyway, a bright future awaits Russia.
            3. baltika-18
              baltika-18 12 September 2012 12: 57
              0
              Alexander! I understand perfectly well: for you, Putin is practically a hero of the nation, for me not. But you and I are two parts of one whole called people. Only one half is white, one is black. And each thinks that it is correct. Time will judge, we will wait 5-10 years old.
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 09
                0
                Quote: baltika-18
                Time will judge, wait for years 5-10.

                That's for sure! +!
          3. mongoose
            mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 18
            0
            um, did not try to buy glasses? feel
    3. esaul
      esaul 12 September 2012 10: 30
      +4
      Quote: Vanek
      But interestingly, when Brzezinski spoke of Putin's Russia in 2012, did he remember what 15 said years ago?


      Ivan, welcome! He, the old bastard, remembers everything. But times have changed and he needs to confirm his reputation as a soothsayer. Old cliches are no longer in use, so he invents "new approaches" in the new reality.
      1. Purgen
        Purgen 12 September 2012 23: 39
        +1
        Esaul
        Brzezinski is far from being an "old bastard" in politics. He has his own role, and he doesn't need to confirm anything. This is an active, cynical, aggressive subject of American politics and should not be underestimated. .. You shouldn't be afraid either. Although by age and fits the definition of "bastard" ....
        Soros, Brzezinski and Co - the conductors of "democracy"
        Our Life Guards "movement" Horse Sobchak-Udaltsov, etc. "are loyal lackeys of" democracy. "And this is very sad.))) But we will break through. Good luck to everyone and peace over your head.
    4. Alexander Romanov
      Alexander Romanov 12 September 2012 10: 38
      +3
      Quote: Vanek

      But interestingly, when Brzezinski spoke of Putin's Russia in 2012, did he remember what 15 said years ago?

      Hi Ivan, all his prophecies related to Russia, as it is not strange come true in the United States themselves, who would have thought it dawned on him that he and his America ended up in debt and without any prospects for the future. ............. drinks
      1. Purgen
        Purgen 13 September 2012 00: 10
        -2
        Alexander Romanov.
        You are naive as a "child of the dungeon". The US debt problems will be huge (and HUGE) problems for the rest of the world (including Russia, we are the third largest holder of these candy wrappers in the world in gold and foreign exchange reserves). And while the world (including us) "hawala" (and we and the rest of the world "hawala") dollars. NOTHING WITH THEM (Amers) WILL HAPPEN. Everything else is "pissy orphan bass"
        At this stage, the US only cares about CHINA. And its neutralization. Alas. Russia for "amers" acts only as a buffer. Russia is a "third world country" for the United States.
        1. Purgen
          Purgen 13 September 2012 01: 25
          0
          And when the Amers come to the "Rubicon". Everything will be the same as during the "Pavlovsk" reform ..... "Who owes, we forgive everyone") .. But it will not be "tomorrow" and "not the day after tomorrow."
        2. Purgen
          Purgen 14 September 2012 23: 27
          0
          Minus. Explain your position. Try to state your thoughts reasonably.
          1. Purgen
            Purgen 15 September 2012 05: 17
            0
            Rams. Sane blather .... Boldly.
      2. Purgen
        Purgen 13 September 2012 02: 22
        0
        Alexander Romanov. Vanek. LET'S LET'S GET WORK. THIS WILL BE MORE USEFUL FOR RUSSIA than the empty talk on the Voennoye Obozreniye website
  5. PISTOL
    PISTOL 12 September 2012 08: 44
    0
    Everyone can see that Russia has risen from its knees, and soon will saddle the shoulders of the west ...
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 14
      +1
      Quote: GUN
      Everyone can see that Russia has risen from its knees, and soon will saddle the shoulders of the west ...

      I can’t see it! Interesting, and in what place did you see this? request
    2. Alexss
      Alexss 12 September 2012 09: 46
      0
      poke your finger in what place Russia rose from its knees
      1. Purgen
        Purgen 13 September 2012 03: 09
        +3
        AlexSS. Poke your finger in your head. This is the easiest way out for you. You can "sit out the troubled times" abroad)))))))))))))))))) (of your mind)) And not ask stupid questions. And it is better that your trail would never again enter the Russian land ... Adios). Piz .... dec (let the admins ban me for six months) ... You will never rise from your knees. Your profession is "suck ..... b".
        Like cheap street girls ... although I insult their profession in vain.)
      2. Che
        Che 13 September 2012 12: 46
        +2
        Quote: AlexSS
        Liberals unanimously say that it was better in Yeltsin, for example Artemy Lebedev was more cheerful, Novodvorskaya was freer, Nemtsov was richer, and Mr. Shenderovich had his own TV program and a large selection of mattresses. What was the rest of the citizens - the citizens, and so remember. At the same time, all liberal figures in one voice shout that the people were impoverished under Putin. I thought for a long time why this is so, because they speak sincerely and with a pure heart, because they didn’t really survive out of their minds (although such an option is acceptable). ?

        In this Russia, I felt better than with EBN. Yes, you have to work, but it's good. You’ll die without work.
  6. bairat
    bairat 12 September 2012 08: 46
    -3
    I'll wait a bit with comment, let the fools shout first.
    1. Trance
      Trance 12 September 2012 09: 12
      +7
      bairat,I'll wait a bit with comment, let the fools shout first.

      Ayrat, listen to the song, have fun, do not burden yourself with problems wink

      1. bairat
        bairat 12 September 2012 09: 31
        +1
        Thank you, I love his songs myself, a talented guy. "St. George's Ribbon" is generally a masterpiece, people around say how much you can listen to the same thing, but I like it.
    2. Purgen
      Purgen 15 September 2012 04: 42
      0
      Oh ..... Let's wait together ..... With Comments.
      Bayrat do not be stupid.
  7. datur
    datur 12 September 2012 08: 46
    +5
    Vanek, he, like the whole west, only remembers what is beneficial to them at the moment !!!!! wink
  8. valokordin
    valokordin 12 September 2012 08: 51
    +3
    I dare say Bzdizhinsky was not only an ardent enemy of the USSR, but he hates the Russians themselves "psya krev". We must always be on the lookout, if he praises Russia, then something is wrong here, and if he is spiteful, then we are doing everything right.
    1. танк
      танк 12 September 2012 09: 21
      +2
      Mostly it is, but about 97, it’s hard to argue with him
  9. Slevinst
    Slevinst 12 September 2012 09: 04
    +2
    Say what you like, but Putin is a patriot, let him steal in his pocket in Russia only Stalin did not steal. With the advent of Putin, much has changed for the better and we hope that this will continue
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 22
      -4
      Quote: Slevinst
      whatever you say, Putin’s patriot

      That's for sure.......... wassat negative
    2. Andrey from Tver
      Andrey from Tver 12 September 2012 09: 31
      +2
      Quote: Slevinst
      like it or not, Putin is a patriot, let him steal in his pocket

      Strongly said, damn it! Now, if he had also stolen somewhere abroad, then indeed, he was a normal kid and an unconditional patriot, and if he was stealing from his own people, then a rat, by all accounts, is like that.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 49
        0
        Quote: Andrey from Tver
        Strongly said, damn it! Now, if he had also stolen somewhere abroad, then indeed, he was a normal kid and an unconditional patriot, and if he was stealing from his own people, then a rat, by all accounts, is like that.

        good
        Eh .......! Patriots for minus ......... request
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 43
          +4
          Quote: nycsson
          Eh .......! Patriots for minus .........


          Nixon, how interesting are you for the pros or the bonuses?
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 48
            0
            Quote: vorobey
            Nixon, how interesting are you for the pros or the bonuses?

            If I worked for it, then I would have a completely different position!
            1. urzul
              urzul 12 September 2012 10: 56
              +3
              No matter how strange they pay for Putin’s support bully
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 12 September 2012 11: 23
                +6
                Quote: urzul
                No matter how strange they pay for Putin’s support


                Andrei, you will probably be surprised, but I'm not for Putin. Personally, I am for the future of my children in the first place. I have voiced my attitude to GDP many times, I repeat that today there is no alternative and it is the lesser evil.

                And the fact that Russia creaks, but only woodpeckers rise, they do not see because they knock all the time.
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 16
                  -3
                  Quote: vorobey
                  And the fact that Russia creaks, but only woodpeckers rise, they do not see because they knock all the time.

                  I have the same opinion, only about those who insist that Russia rises .......
                  I do not see any positive trends ........ Maybe I'm certainly not right, but how many people, so many opinions ........ hi
                  1. Aleks28
                    Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 29
                    +5
                    They began to reckon with Russia, and this is already a trend.
                  2. Che
                    Che 13 September 2012 12: 52
                    +1
                    nycsson,
                    Something useless nickname. This is the former dictator of the Evil Empire.
              2. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 13
                0
                Quote: urzul
                No matter how strange they pay for Putin’s support

                Well, you know, Urzul, if they don’t pay for support, then for the opposite position, especially ...........
                First of all, I represent the interests of the Motherland, I am for it .......... soldier
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 20
                  +3
                  "Rodina", let it be known to you, has always been loyal to Putin. And the conversation here is more about any swamp filth, which is ready to sell the Motherland for a beach package.
                  1. Aleks28
                    Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 28
                    -1
                    By the way, I sympathize with many of Rodina's ideas.
                  2. nycsson
                    nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 12
                    0
                    Quote: Allex28
                    "Rodina", let it be known to you, has always been loyal to Putin.

                    How so?
                    Quote: Allex28
                    And the conversation here is more about any swamp scum, which is ready for a homepack to sell their homeland.

                    I do not respect them either! These are the enemies of my homeland ......
                2. urzul
                  urzul 12 September 2012 14: 05
                  +3
                  First of all, I represent the interests of the Motherland, I am for it .......

                  Again useless pathos, how tired he is. Name forgot to clarify wink
                  By the way, the CIA is very well paid, something from 20 000 per year.
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 16
                    -1
                    Quote: urzul
                    By the way, the CIA is very well paid, something from 20 000 per year.

                    Ha! How do you know? laughing
                    Quote: urzul
                    Again useless pathos, how tired he is.

                    Come on, not everyone is like you ....... negative
                    Quote: urzul
                    Name forgot to clarify

                    I clarify: Russia is my homeland and I’m a mountain for it! good The time will come and she will get rid of this dishonesty ............ angry
        2. baltika-18
          baltika-18 12 September 2012 13: 00
          -2
          Quote: nycsson
          Eh .......! Patriots for minus ..

          We break through ... on ............. Plus.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 25
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            Quote: nycsson
            Eh .......! Patriots for minus ..

            We break through ... on ............. Plus.
            So you must have been a mishandled Cossack, a traitor?
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 20
              0
              Quote: Allex28
              So you must have been a mishandled Cossack, a traitor?

              And you, as traitors, do not distinguish from non-givers? If I'm against Pu, then I'm a traitor! If for him, then I'm a patriot and a normal kid! So what? Well, you have the logic ........... negative
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 12 September 2012 15: 59
                0
                Sly dear, put the whole koment, and you’ll laugh at yourself. And Uncle PU. nothing to do with it.
          2. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 18
            0
            Quote: baltika-18
            We break through ... on ............. Plus.

            Break through! We have nowhere to go! good drinks
        3. rennim
          rennim 13 September 2012 09: 38
          -1
          Don’t be afraid ... we won’t give up ... we will put it together)))
    3. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 09: 33
      +5
      Quote: Slevinst
      whatever you say, Putin’s patriot


      And children grow up as patriots, girls studied in a paid special school at the German Embassy in Moscow, where teaching is conducted only in German
      "German School in Moscow. Haas" - the institution is located at 103/5 Vernadsky Avenue, and is considered the territory of the Embassy of the Federal Republic of Germany, that is, an inviolable German fiefdom.
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 48
        +2
        Quote: Vadivak
        And children grow up as patriots, girls studied in a paid special school at the German Embassy in Moscow, where teaching is conducted only in German

        Yes, you just don’t understand anything! laughing
        It's just that it’s fashionable to indulge in our own way! It’s fashionable to speak German and English!
        First to indulge, and then to move to Munich ......... hi
      2. танк
        танк 12 September 2012 10: 31
        +2
        Well, nothing at one time the whole elite spoke French and nothing, then again in Russian, fashion mother and her laughing
        1. Vadivak
          Vadivak 12 September 2012 11: 14
          +3
          Quote: tank
          at one time the whole elite spoke French


          Well, agreed until the 17th year
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 16
            -3
            Quote: Vadivak
            Well, agreed until the 17th year

            Not in the eyebrow, but in the voice ........
            They would first learn their native language, and then ......... Although, something I did not think ....... what is their native .......
    4. Alexss
      Alexss 12 September 2012 09: 49
      0
      since patriots don’t steal from the Motherland, with the advent of Putin, only the price of oil and gas has increased, and he and his companion have not enough resources to cut all the income from this, that’s what the rest of the Russians fall from the lord’s shoulder
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 26
        -2
        Quote: AlexSS
        here something that falls from the lordly shoulder to the rest of the Russians

        I'm tired of talking about this already! To you +! hi
      2. urzul
        urzul 12 September 2012 10: 57
        +1
        At the previous excise rate, it was more convenient to cut through oilmen or the former Yukos
    5. gribnik777
      gribnik777 12 September 2012 11: 16
      +2
      Quote: Slevinst
      let him steal in his pocket


      negative

      Ninth commandment: Do not bear false witness against your neighbor.


      Those. - Do not slander.

      The tenth commandment: Do not desire your neighbor's house; do not desire your neighbor’s wife, [neither his field,] nor his slave, nor his slave, nor his ox, nor his donkey, [nor all his cattle,] anything your neighbor has

      Those. - do not envy.
  10. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 12 September 2012 09: 08
    +6
    President is an elective office. His people choose, and he must answer their trends and wishes. Over the 20 years of "Putin's" Russia, people's thinking has evolved. And the president, I have a lot of advisers, analysts, questionnaires, etc. etc. must feel the "pulsation" of the mood of his society. Whether it's Putin or Ivanov-Petrov-Sidorov, he must meet the expectations of at least half of the population. Therefore, the merit in the growth and development of Russia is not the president, but his people. The one that stands at the machines and creates that very GDP. And if the president does not live up to the expectations of his people, he will not only be re-elected, but he can also fly off the "throne" ahead of schedule, depending on the "severity" of disappointments. Let us recall how many government decisions were made to do this or that, unpopular with the population. As soon as analysts whispered to the president that the people were buzzing, they rolled back and seemed like "the decision has not been made yet," "one should not expect adoption in the near future, since the people are not ready yet," "the rumors turned out to be incorrect." That is, keeping a finger on the pulse of society and not allowing "arrhythmias" to develop is the president's task. And the people? And the people just do not need to interfere! And the development of the state will go up by itself.
    1. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 09: 57
      +1
      Quote: Alexxeg73
      His people choose


      The main thing is not how they vote, but how they count

      I.V. Stalin
  11. IRBIS
    IRBIS 12 September 2012 09: 10
    +5
    Maybe Putin is not ideal as a leader. And there are many systemic errors in management. BUT .... It was he who stopped the country's fall into nowhere. Pride for all of us and hope for a better life reappeared. In the 90s, when making forecasts of Russia's development, I perceived the presented facts with horror and realized that I would spend the rest of my life fighting for survival. There was no gap, continuous darkness! Now life is completely different, brighter and better. And in most of this fact, it is Putin's merit. And the mistakes of his leadership are not fatal. And not everything is so simple and fast. The main thing is that a return to the "dashing 90s" is out of the question.
    1. Alexxeg73
      Alexxeg73 12 September 2012 10: 19
      +2
      Well ... Everything is simple here - the "crimson jackets" have changed into strict "troikas" from "Armani" and have now become "entrepreneurs". This is also evolution. It's like in China. Remember electronics under the "brands" "Panasonic", "Sonics" and others, with warped names? The period of accumulation of initial capital has passed, now all these offices have grown into presentable companies and are already churning out glamorous iPhones. So are our dashing 90s. I personally do not see Putin's merit. In the end, in 92, a committee of the St. Petersburg City Council worked in St. Petersburg, which investigated the activities of Deputy Mayor Vladimir Putin. After the committee presented the results of its investigation, the city council passed a resolution calling for the mayor to remove Putin and for the prosecutor's office to open an investigation into the apparent corruption and loss of funds, but the mayor ignored the recommendations. But! We will not, we will not ... What happened - that happened ... I personally share patriotism and love for the president. By the way, there is a photo of Putin and Sobchak, in which the future "savior" of Russia in a crimson jacket and sweatpants. Another gold chain is not enough for a complete set ...
      1. gribnik777
        gribnik777 12 September 2012 11: 59
        +2
        Definitely the results of the investigation cannot be regarded in any way. The beginning of rampant shit democracy, the first experiences of free commercial activity, the concern of everyone and everything, including members of the Council and the Committee, how to fill up your pocket, the first one-day companies, etc.
        In this situation, it seems to me, two conclusions can be drawn:
        1. Sobchak, Putin and Co., those who are now in his team, quickly realized what was happening and turned the deal.
        2. Having no experience in commercial activities, he was young (he wasn’t even forty then), brought up on the concepts of duty and honor, deputy. the measure fell in full swing to the company one-day, got a decent click on the nose, wiped itself off and, as a smart person, made the right conclusion.

        Knowing about him since his arrival at the Lubyanka, I am convinced of the second.
        hi
  12. Lyokha79
    Lyokha79 12 September 2012 09: 11
    +5
    Nemtsov, Kasyanov and all their friends under Yeltsin lived a wonderful life, this is undeniable. But the rest of the people were on the verge of survival. Now life has become better and this is also indisputable. Yes, there are a lot of problems, everyone knows about them, but it is not possible to fix and restore the fact that 20 was ruined for a click of the fingers.
    1. Alexss
      Alexss 12 September 2012 09: 57
      -3
      collapsed from 1988 to 2000 and this is 12 years peak period from 1990 to 1994, "restore" from 2000 to 2012 and things are still there
    2. Vadivak
      Vadivak 12 September 2012 10: 01
      +1
      Quote: Lyokha79
      Nemtsov, Kasyanov and all their friends under Yeltsin lived wonderful,


      Now others live wonderful, and where to go to the peasant? For him, not a damn thing has changed
  13. nycsson
    nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 12
    -2
    Putin's Russia. What is she like?

    She is weak .............. crying
    1. RUS-36
      RUS-36 12 September 2012 09: 34
      +2
      nycsson Then go back to the 90s. LIKE YOU lol
      1. nycsson
        nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 51
        -3
        Quote: RUS-36
        Then go back to the 90s. LIKE YOU

        Return is not real and you know it!
        But ahead of us are the times worse than the 90s! crying
        1. DYMITRY
          DYMITRY 12 September 2012 10: 06
          +2
          Quote: nycsson
          But ahead of us are the times worse than the 90s!

          Nixon so return to your historical homeland, who holds you here? Russia is a foreign country to you, you hate it with all the fibers of your soul, so why live here? There, over the ocean, a bright kingdom of democracy awaits you, milk rivers and jelly banks, ponies eating a rainbow and pooping butterflies !!! Leave Russia, do not linger for a minute !!! Or will they not pay for tons of slops for the current leadership of the country?
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 29
            -2
            Quote: DYMITRY
            Nixon so return to your historical homeland, who holds you here?

            What historical homeland are you escorting me to?

            Or will they not pay for tons of slops for the current leadership of the country?

            Yes, not slop, dear, but facts! This is the first! And no one pays me - this is the second! I express my opinion, because I do not care about the country in which I was born and raised! But you are definitely paid for hanging noodles ........
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 12 September 2012 10: 40
              +2
              Quote: nycsson
              What historical homeland are you escorting me to?

              Judging by the nickname and statements, your historical homeland is the USA
              Quote: nycsson
              Yes, not slop, dear, but facts!

              There is not a single fact in your posts, some screams are prosralipolymers !!! Guard!!! Bloody puten surrenders the country !!!!
              Quote: nycsson
              I express my opinion, because I do not care about the country in which I was born and raised

              See paragraph one.
              Quote: nycsson
              But you are definitely paid for hanging noodles ........

              Yeah, I'm a Surkos propaganda !!!!!! And only you are an impolite, shaking hands silver-free !!!
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 54
                -1
                Quote: DYMITRY
                Judging by the nickname and statements, your historical homeland is the USA

                Nonsense! This is all your speculation, nothing more!
                Quote: DYMITRY
                There is not a single fact in your posts, some screams are prosralipolymers !!! Guard!!! Bloody puten surrenders the country !!!!

                During my presence on this site I have posted more than one hundred facts! Yell, just you!
                Quote: DYMITRY
                See paragraph one.

                And you look ..........
                Quote: DYMITRY
                Yeah, I'm a Surkos propaganda !!!!!! And only you are an impolite, shaking hands silver-free !!!

                Do not do like this. There are many people on the site who fully or partially support my point of view!
                1. DYMITRY
                  DYMITRY 12 September 2012 11: 07
                  +2
                  Quote: nycsson
                  Nonsense! This is all your speculation, nothing more!

                  Naturally, these are just my thoughts. But judging by the severity of your reaction, they are not far from reality.
                  Quote: nycsson
                  During my presence on this site I have posted more than one hundred facts!

                  Well, if statements like:
                  Quote: nycsson
                  Return is not real and you know it!
                  But ahead of us are the times worse than the 90s!

                  Quote: nycsson

                  Putin's Russia. What is she like?

                  She is weak ..............

                  Quote: nycsson

                  Quote: Vadivak
                  Under Yeltsin, we did not kneel, we lay ...... you yourself know what
                  That's for sure, but now we stand ...........
                  Of course it is sad.......

                  can be considered facts, then certainly not one hundred were issued. Turn to the court with such facts, with such evidence Putin will certainly be shot.
                  Quote: nycsson
                  There are many people on the site who fully or partially support my point of view!

                  And no one argues, huge funds are allocated for the removal of non-living and shaking hands. There are people who do not believe their eyes, but with pleasure believe propaganda. We saw a lot of such people in the swamp area.
                  1. nycsson
                    nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 27
                    -1
                    Quote: DYMITRY
                    Naturally, these are just my thoughts. But judging by the severity of your reaction, they are not far from reality.

                    Normal reaction and no sharpness .....
                    Quote: DYMITRY
                    can be considered facts, then certainly not one hundred were issued. Turn to the court with such facts, with such evidence Putin will certainly be shot.

                    More than enough facts, in other articles, tired of repeating.
                    And these are not facts, but my point of view, as indeed with you .......
                    Quote: DYMITRY
                    And no one argues, huge funds are allocated for the removal of non-living and shaking hands. There are people who do not believe their eyes, but with pleasure believe propaganda. We saw a lot of such people in the swamp area.

                    I agree with that! But I am not a supporter of Navalny or Nemtsov, all kinds of Novodvorsky and the rest of the riffraff ........ All these are enemies of Russia and I understand that .........
                    I am only for the motherland! It is possible that your idol and goodie, I admit, but in this case he is incompetent in public affairs .......
                    hi
                    1. DYMITRY
                      DYMITRY 12 September 2012 14: 21
                      +2
                      Quote: nycsson
                      I agree with that! But I am not a supporter of Navalny or Nemtsov, all kinds of Novodvorsky and the rest of the riffraff ........ All these are enemies of Russia and I understand that .......

                      Interesting girls are dancing?!?! And why, then, bring the same arguments as they? The same slogans! The same phrases. The same way of thinking. Even evidence of their innocence bring them written. The differences are minimal (I do not take clinical cases like babo lero)

                      Quote: nycsson
                      I am only for the motherland!

                      Then the question is: where is your homeland ???? This is clearly not Russia, because they do not say that about their homeland !!! They do not water their homeland with shit. Failures of their homeland, so do not relish.
                      Quote: nycsson
                      It is possible that your idol and goodie, I admit, but in this case he is incompetent in public affairs .......

                      I follow the commandments - do not make yourself an idol, which I also wish you. Therefore, I have no idols, and cannot be. There are people whom I respect. V. Putin is one of them. And if, in your opinion, he is incompetent in state affairs, call a competent
                      1. nycsson
                        nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 37
                        +1
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        Interesting girls are dancing?!?! And why, then, bring the same arguments as they? The same slogans! The same phrases. The same way of thinking. Even evidence of their innocence bring them written. The differences are minimal (I do not take clinical cases like babo lero)

                        I somehow did not read their arguments and are not interested in them! I don’t go to the square either! Accordingly, I do not put forward any slogans. I do not call for revolution, because if there is a revolution in our country, then in Israel and the United States it wakes up screaming with happiness ..........
                        What evidence do I give them written? I usually post articles or give links in the form of evidence.

                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        Then the question is: where is your homeland ????

                        My Motherland is Russia! I was born in Voronezh, grew up in the region where my great-grandfather's father lived, and our descendants from the Ryazan region, so my father told me!
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        This is clearly not Russia, because they do not say that about their homeland !!! They do not water their homeland with shit. Failures of their homeland, so do not relish.

                        Yes, I’m not talking about it all about her, but about her grief to the leaders who brought her to this. Here is my position in principle! The homeland cannot have failures, it can have bad-hearted leaders ........
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        There are people whom I respect. V. Putin is one of them.

                        And I do not respect him! And I have a lot of reasons!
                        Quote: DYMITRY
                        And if, in your opinion, he is incompetent in state affairs, call a competent

                        But this is a hackneyed phrase. He is not in power, and it cannot be, because under the existing system, a stranger will not go there.
        2. vorobey
          vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 19
          +3
          Quote: nycsson
          But ahead of us are the times worse than the 90s!


          "Brother", get out of here, save yourself.
          1. nycsson
            nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 31
            -2
            Quote: vorobey
            "Brother", get out of here, save yourself.

            How kindly ........ Where will I go? My homeland is here! soldier
            1. vorobey
              vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 46
              +6
              Quote: nycsson
              How kindly ........ Where will I go? My homeland is here!


              Usually they love not for something but contrary to something.

              You do not love your homeland, but yourself beloved.
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 29
                -2
                Quote: vorobey
                You do not love your homeland, but yourself beloved.

                And who doesn't love himself?
            2. Baron Wrangell
              Baron Wrangell 12 September 2012 12: 36
              +5
              Quote: nycsson
              How kindly ........ Where will I go? My homeland is here!

              about such love for the motherland, yes they wrote it!
              Classics about liberals

              A. Pushkin:
              "You enlightened your mind,
              You saw the truth
              And dearly loved the nations,
              And he hated his wisdom. "

              A. Pushkin:
              "Several deep minds ... engaged in the study of the mores and regulations of the American ... With amazement they saw (they) democracy in its hideous cynicism, in its cruel prejudices, in its intolerable tyranny."

              P. Vyazemsky:
              "Listen: our century is the century of freedom,
              And in essence, look deeper -
              Free Thought Horse Guides
              Eastern despots are akin to.
              They have a strict slogan for everything
              Under their liberal stigma:
              Dare not go your own way
              Don't you dare live your mind. "

              F. Tyutchev:
              "Waste labor - no, you can't understand them, -
              The more liberal, the more vulgar,
              Civilization is a fetish for them,
              But their idea is not available to them.
              As you bow down before her, gentlemen,
              You do not get recognition from Europe:
              In her eyes, you will always
              Not servants of enlightenment, but slaves. "

              M. Bakunin: "Especially terrible is the despotism of the intelligent and therefore privileged minority, which supposedly understands the real interests of the people better than the people themselves ..."
              1. gribnik777
                gribnik777 12 September 2012 19: 45
                +2
                Bravo!
                Great selection! Thank!
                good
            3. Andrey64
              Andrey64 12 September 2012 14: 09
              +4
              Judging by your comments, a quote from one well-known movie "Homeland is where the ass is warm" is appropriate here .... And, by the way, Motherland is written with a capital letter (if it really is Motherland for you).
              1. nycsson
                nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 42
                0
                Quote: Andrey64
                And, by the way, the Motherland is written with a capital letter (if it really is the Homeland for you).

                I agree. This is over the park. Always write with a big one!
    2. HIGHLANDER
      HIGHLANDER 12 September 2012 09: 47
      +8
      I agree that we are still weak, only Russia is not "Putin's", Russia is mine, and as long as I have the strength I will do everything possible so that all sorts of "Zinsky" people cry in the corner from powerlessness, and I don't care about their anger, I will find something to answer
  14. JonnyT
    JonnyT 12 September 2012 09: 20
    +8
    Judging by the example of his life, then under Putin it’s better to live. And all my friends and comrades are of the same opinion. And the cries of small corrupt mongrels are not worth paying attention to. To revive the country it is necessary to WORK !!!!! And educate your children on true values, and not on false Western gay propaganda!
    1. Alexss
      Alexss 12 September 2012 10: 00
      -5
      voice your true values ​​to begin with, and then compare them with those promoted on the first (pro-Putin) channel and maybe it will reach you
      1. Vanek
        Vanek 12 September 2012 10: 06
        +7
        Quote: AlexSS
        compare them with those promoted on the first (pro-Putin) channel


        News
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        09:00

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        09:20

        "Test purchase"
        09:50
        Live healthy!
        Watch online
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        "Live healthy!"

        New infectious diseases; why squash is useful; how to avoid meeting with pubic lice; September self-care
        10:55

        "Fashionable verdict"
        12:00

        Subtitled News
        12:20

        "Mary's Heart". Multi-part film. 46th episode 16+
        13:20

        Season premiere. "Time for lunch!"
        14:00

        Other news
        14:25

        "Understand. Forgive" 12+
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        "While everyone is at home"
        17:00

        "Kept by Fate". Multi-part film. 7th episode 12+
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        Subtitled Evening News
        18:50

        "Let's get married!" 16+
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        "Let them talk" 16+
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        Premiere. "Underground crossing". Multi-part film. 3rd series 16+
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        "Test purchase"


        Where is Putin's propaganda? On the news with subtitles? Or in the programs for housewives "Let's Get Married"? Or maybe in cheap serials?
        1. Alexss
          Alexss 12 September 2012 10: 15
          -6
          Have you watched any of this? and preferably more than once out of the corner of your eye!
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 12 September 2012 10: 26
            +6
            Quote: AlexSS
            Have you watched any of this?


            Watching the news. I watch every day.

            But to answer the question:
            Quote: Vanek
            Where is Putin's propaganda? On the news with subtitles? Or in the programs for housewives "Let's Get Married"? Or maybe in cheap serials?


            Question:
            Quote: AlexSS
            Have you watched any of this?


            Neither very ethical, perhaps ...... You said that at the first propaganda, I ask you - WHERE IS IT? Instead of answering, you ask. From here (I have at least) there is an opinion that, you would just insert your few unreasonable words and that’s it.

            We are out of the way with you.
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 51
            +4
            Quote: AlexSS
            Have you watched any of this? and preferably more than once out of the corner of your eye!


            There is nowhere to go in you. I envy.
            1. urzul
              urzul 12 September 2012 10: 59
              +6
              He studies vrazhin for a day, and let them speak at night two times in the record, reviewing it. to study hidden propaganda
              1. vorobey
                vorobey 12 September 2012 11: 11
                +6
                Quote: urzul
                studying ducks vrazhin, and Let them speak at night two times in the record reviewing. to study hidden propaganda


                It seems like a diagnosis. looks like mania.

                He felt it was pleasant when there was someone to talk with, except for himself and the sea.
                (The Old Man and the Sea)
      2. urzul
        urzul 12 September 2012 10: 39
        +5
        Mention only the opposition rain channel is available in HD quality absolutely free of charge for all television operators, why such generosity?
        1. Vanek
          Vanek 12 September 2012 10: 48
          +2
          Quote: urzul
          Notice only the opposition channel


          Andrey, good afternoon.

          If the question is for me. So I have no idea.
          1. Vanek
            Vanek 12 September 2012 12: 15
            +5
            Quote: Vanek
            New infectious diseases; why squash is useful; how to avoid meeting with pubic louse; September self-care
            10:55


            I did find propaganda. laughing laughing laughing
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 12 September 2012 12: 18
              +3
              Well done! Seriously with these people you can’t + drinks
              1. Vanek
                Vanek 12 September 2012 12: 22
                +2
                Quote: Allex28
                Well done! Seriously with these people you can’t +


                Thank you hi
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 12 September 2012 12: 26
                  +3
                  It's just that sometimes you lose weight with these people, go to work, but no "we will wait until Uncle PU. Brings." am
            2. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 12 September 2012 12: 26
              +3
              Quote: Vanek
              I did find propaganda.

              Good day Vanek!
              Thanks, smiled! +100500
  15. batist
    batist 12 September 2012 09: 26
    0
    valokordinThank you Putin, uncle ...
  16. rennim
    rennim 12 September 2012 09: 28
    +1
    IRBIS,
    Yes, the people began to "live better". There was more bread and circuses .... and a huge mass of emigrants from Central Asia, as well as young morons who did not know that the USSR was decisive in the victory over fascism, and not the United States and France.
    1. nycsson
      nycsson 12 September 2012 09: 58
      -5
      Quote: rennim
      As well as young morons who do not know that the USSR had a decisive role in the victory over fascism, and not the United States and France.

      A plus! So it is now written in Putin’s textbooks in black and white! request
      1. vorobey
        vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 27
        +4
        And here Putin is to blame. where are the parents? same as children?
        1. nycsson
          nycsson 12 September 2012 10: 58
          -3
          Quote: vorobey
          And here Putin is to blame. where are the parents? same as children?

          Do not forget that he is responsible for everything that happens in the country! And the education of future generations is one of the main tasks of any state! And this upbringing and training takes place both at home and at school and not without the help of textbooks ......... hi
          1. urzul
            urzul 12 September 2012 11: 08
            +6
            Do not forget that he is responsible for everything that happens in the country!

            Well, that means I’m in vain at the neighbors going to court with milk from behind the strait !?
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 12 September 2012 12: 00
              +4
              Quote: urzul
              Well, that means I’m in vain at the neighbors going to court with milk from behind the strait !?

              Good day, Andrey!
              Of course in vain !!! Everyone knows:
              The cat gave birth to kittens -
              This is Putin's fault !!!

              A couple of pigs died? -
              This is Putin's fault !!!

              Does not give a girlfriend in the ass? -
              This is Putin's fault !!!
              etc. etc. can go on for a long time. On one of the resources, not so long ago, even a contest was held, which Putin was still to blame. (couplets from there)
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 35
                +2
                Well done Dmitry good Smoke on +
                1. Vanek
                  Vanek 12 September 2012 13: 39
                  +2
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Well done Dmitry good Smoke on +


                  I am joining! Dmitry is beautiful. good +
            2. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 32
              -1
              Quote: urzul
              Well, that means I’m in vain at the neighbors going to court with milk from behind the strait !?

              Well, do not bend you like that ........... laughing
              I'm talking about the tasks and functions of the state .....
              1. urzul
                urzul 12 September 2012 14: 06
                +2
                Damn, I already filed a lawsuit against Putin.
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 44
                  -1
                  Quote: urzul
                  Damn, I already filed a lawsuit against Putin.

                  And what did you accept?
          2. vorobey
            vorobey 12 September 2012 11: 08
            +2
            Quote: nycsson
            Do not forget that he is responsible for everything that happens in the country! And the education of future generations is one of the main tasks of any state! And this upbringing and training takes place both at home and at school, and not without the help of textbooks.


            Do you have children? Have you looked at what your child is reading?
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 34
              0
              Quote: vorobey
              Do you have children?

              There is a son, almost five years old .....
              Quote: vorobey
              Have you looked at what your child is reading?

              My child does not read anything, in view of the circumstances ...
          3. gribnik777
            gribnik777 12 September 2012 12: 28
            +3
            Lift your ass off the chair, go to work, raise children. The state is not a tit - enough to pull for it, Move your finger at least! FATHER to the HEAD - to answer him. And then school. It is not known what kind of teachers are those who don’t know what they put into children's souls. It is a pity to liquidate the First departments. Teachers would let them through.
            1. nycsson
              nycsson 12 September 2012 13: 37
              -2
              Quote: gribnik777
              Lift your ass off the chair, go to work, raise children.

              I work and educate! And I’m not jerking for anything, don’t worry .....
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 41
                +3
                Quote: nycsson
                I work and educate! And I’m not jerking for anything, don’t worry .....
                Yeshe also receives a salary in return, but under Yeltsin I didn’t receive a salary under 5. They gave me bread and cereals.
                1. nycsson
                  nycsson 12 September 2012 15: 45
                  -2
                  Quote: Allex28
                  Yeshe also receives a salary in return, but under Yeltsin I didn’t receive a salary under 5. They gave me bread and cereals.

                  Of course I get it.
        2. rennim
          rennim 12 September 2012 11: 30
          +1
          How where .... Drink beer. smile
      2. urzul
        urzul 12 September 2012 10: 48
        +5
        Let's already without outright lies, read the 160 page of the textbook of General History of the 20th Century for the 11 class, Russian in white:
        "The incurred near Stalingrad, defeat was a disaster for tripartite pact countries. Germany had to declare total mobilization in order to restore the combat effectiveness of the army. The eastern front swallowed up all the reserves of the German army, as a result, the Allies managed by May 1943, to completely oust the Italo-German troops from Africa "
      3. JonnyT
        JonnyT 12 September 2012 11: 13
        +4
        Parents are responsible for raising children !!!, don't blame everything on school and TV !!!! Putin has nothing to do with it, he does not shove our children with yagu with cigarettes! and mind you there is no propaganda of an unhealthy lifestyle, the state, on the contrary, is now "making the nation healthier" But what about immigrants: will you go to revenge shit for a penny ????? Moreover, they do not arrange riots here, and the cry about their lawlessness is just false propaganda of nationalists and other enemies of Russia!
    2. IRBIS
      IRBIS 12 September 2012 10: 16
      +6
      And in 90 I sometimes could not even offer bread to my family, they did not pay salaries.
      For the most part, emigrants clean our streets on which our people are crap. I, too, am not enthusiastic about their number and behavior, but it is not Putin who decides where to go to people.
      Children in young people who do not know anything are turned by parents who are completely not involved in their upbringing in the family. And Putin is not to blame.
      1. urzul
        urzul 12 September 2012 10: 52
        +2
        You are right, a familiar teacher complained that children now very often do not know how to talk, even in 2-3 years.
        1. vorobey
          vorobey 12 September 2012 11: 01
          +2
          Quote: urzul
          children now very often do not know how to talk even in 2-3 years


          maybe they have no claims?
  17. RUS-36
    RUS-36 12 September 2012 09: 32
    +6
    "For example, not so long ago I explained to a friend that a salary is better than no salary. That a black BMW with a flashing light worries me less than a dozen jeeps with shaved brothers and machine guns quietly smoking at McDonald's, that inflation of 6-8% is better than 600-800%. "

    I agree....Just someone did not live a conscious (by age) life in the 90s and cannot adequately compare the current situation with the past 90s
    1. Alexss
      Alexss 12 September 2012 10: 05
      -7
      everything is known in comparison, but it is necessary to compare not just absolute numbers, but their relative values ​​depending on the situation (internal and external political and economic factors)
      1. Aleks28
        Aleks28 12 September 2012 10: 45
        +4
        Quote: AlexSS
        everything is known in comparison, but it is necessary to compare not just absolute numbers, but their relative values ​​depending on the situation (internal and external political and economic factors)
        Did he understand what he said? The author just brought comparisons to you. Yes, I see that on the forehead and on the forehead. One word is the swamp electorate .... I can’t put the minus, I already put one.
      2. urzul
        urzul 12 September 2012 10: 50
        +4
        Well, let's compare the salary of products or its absence for half a year.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 12 September 2012 11: 06
          +4
          This year I was at home, and observed the following picture: They are sitting in the forehead with four foreheads, drinking a beer and complaining about a bad life. The shopkeeper comes out and asks them to help bring two cars of land to the flowerbed, she’s ready to pay 20 €. our fellows knew no bounds (all 4o do not work, I know them). For reference, I get 14 € per hour. But here I take it for 20 minutes, I don’t want to work. My dear people should work, not whining. Uncle PU will not come and it will not feed your families, and you sit in front of the computer and shed tears, but you scold Uncle PU.
          1. NICK
            NICK 12 September 2012 13: 43
            -2
            Quote: Allex28
            WORK must be my dear, not whining

            Tired of your monotonous and stupid comments (ARBAYTEN RUSISHE SCHWIN). GASTARBAYTAR’s sincere envy of the local population is quite understandable. Why did you DUMP CAPITALIST LABOR left Russia? Do not like us (in Russia)? Of course, it was easy to leave Russia to scream so that the rest would work stupidly and dare not open their mouths. We’ll figure it out without you.
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 12 September 2012 13: 50
              +2
              Your question is logical, you + And I didn’t leave of my own free will. I won’t go into details. If it’s very interesting, I can write in a personal letter. But I still need to work.
              1. NICK
                NICK 12 September 2012 13: 58
                -2
                Interesting. By the way, I’m working.
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 12 September 2012 14: 18
                  +1
                  And I guess you get a salary.

                  I sent a biography lol
                  1. NICK
                    NICK 12 September 2012 16: 10
                    -2
                    Allex28,
                    I work for myself.
                    1. Aleks28
                      Aleks28 12 September 2012 20: 59
                      +2
                      And it would be necessary for the country, a little bit.
  18. rennim
    rennim 12 September 2012 09: 45
    +3
    Indeed ... everything is known by comparison ... However, I believe that Russia has long deserved to live better ... Why compare the bad with the worse. I just want to live a normal life and be proud of my Fatherland. And if a person is proud of their country ... then he is happy ...
  19. geptilshik
    geptilshik 12 September 2012 09: 47
    -2
    Again a one-sided vision, then everything was bad, and now everything is in raspberries, and B. B.
  20. bairat
    bairat 12 September 2012 09: 51
    +3
    All the prosperity of the nulls rested on a steadily rising oil price. There was enough money and the growing appetites of officials and the people got it. Everything, nothing more has been done. Instead of making an economic breakthrough, updating the machinery of enterprises, building infrastructure, money stupidly surrendered to American banks. Look at the stores, how many Russian goods are there? They are practically absent, you will not find domestic bolts and nuts, where much further the economy will collapse. And here it is not the State Department’s machinations that are to blame, but in our country such conditions are created that any activity becomes unprofitable. Fields are overgrown with forest. There are rare exceptions, upon closer inspection, we will see that there are officials or former security officials with connections and violations, each employee will have enough for two life terms.
    But looking for an external enemy to blame for our failures is in our blood. If tomorrow the United States, together with Bzezhinsky, goes under water the honorary title "enemy of Russia No. 1" will not be left an orphan. Let's find someone to attach, it's easier than to understand the economy in our own country.
    1. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 12 September 2012 10: 09
      +3
      Well of course you from Turkey know better how many Russian goods we have on the counter !!! It always amazes me that emigrants consider themselves experts in the Russian economy !!!
      1. bairat
        bairat 12 September 2012 10: 17
        -1
        I'm in Turkey on vacation, the flag apparently changes automatically.
        1. DYMITRY
          DYMITRY 12 September 2012 10: 30
          +3
          Then I will answer with the words of Pirmanov:
          Hamsters. Study the State Statistics Committee, everything is there. You can visually look at all the indicators. Only in 2000, all the mucus screeching, the country cannot feed itself. Everyone ate Bush's amputated limbs. Now, thanks to the hero of Russia Onishchenko, the lord of bacilli and viruses, producers in Russia are demanding that the fucking KAA-Putin stop importing chicken, there is nowhere to do with it next year. Lisovsky is working out - a box from a photocopier, for the election of the biggest democrat in Russia - Yeltsin. The Arabs will be floated. More than a hundred pig farms are being built in the country. In the Belgorod region alone, for 2 million tons of pork, 3-4 years are given for self-sufficiency. Arabs bastards and Moishes refuse to take pork - they say non-kosher. There are livestock complexes in the Bryansk region. Downhole complexes for 800 thousand heads are nearby. From the downhole complexes go hides, bones, etc. , all this must be processed. The same applies to pig farms. All this is based on the program adopted 8 years ago, the program has to be adjusted sometimes, the bastards do it too quickly. Sunflower oil has been exported for a long time, too, the bastards are dispersed, you can't stop it. But the most important thing is GRAIN. I WILL REPEAT AGAIN FOR SLIM HAMSTERS. CORN. The money is allocated to increase the production of wheat alone up to 150 million tons per year. And this is melioration, selection, and much more. For food, the country needs 37 million tons of grain. The rest is now exported. Greetings to Khrushchu and Uncle ZU. The goal for grain is to provide livestock breeding for 100% of its needs and still small, 100% for meat export. The ultimate goal is to reduce grain exports and increase meat exports. Meat is expensive everywhere. And so the bloody KAA-Putin plans to make GRAIN OPEC, and after all, he will do it, screw it up, it remains to wait a bit, because they are so European, they will help us abroad. The ultimate goal in gebnyavogo KAA-Putin: to build a nuclear-energy empire, space-AVIOTSIONNUYU Empire, the military-industrial empire, the transport empire, Food Empire, apart from the food empire, Water Empire, EMPIRE timber industry, pharmaceutical empire. The rest should be scoffed, cowards, Mercedes, plasma, boots, whatever.
          A. Pirmanov
          http://std121.livejournal.com/12644.html
          1. geptilshik
            geptilshik 12 September 2012 10: 39
            +2
            If there is surplus everywhere, why prices are rising, why also sunflower oil two years ago jumped, buckwheat. And the grain also doesn’t stand still, but because the peasant’s consumer is a loaf of bread with us, the grain will be visited by 100500 resellers and each of this grain will take a bite out of its grain, so don’t pour money into the agrarian
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 12 September 2012 10: 55
              +2
              Quote: geptilshik
              why, too, sunflower oil two years ago jumped, buckwheat.

              Well, let's remember summer 2010, what happened ??? Monstrous heat and drought. Questions ??? Plus, whatever one may say, our economy is market, if Western buyers offer prices much higher, who will refuse to sell? Accordingly, the price rises. And if by force to force the manufacturer to sell products on the domestic market, at "special" prices, can you imagine what a howl will rise ??? Aaaaa, bloody KAA-Puten nightmares the farmer, AAAA we will all starve to death !!!! Is not it?
              1. geptilshik
                geptilshik 12 September 2012 11: 02
                -1
                Calm down general, the market is not the market, but your people should be in the first place, and if the state cares, then you can shove the drought and the Colorado potato beetle, UFOs and other fluctuations.
                1. urzul
                  urzul 12 September 2012 11: 10
                  +4
                  So it is on the first one, the state does not have the right to force the producer of agricultural products to change prices, but there were quotas for exporting grain a couple of years ago, so you do not want to, but you have to sell it inside the country.
                  1. geptilshik
                    geptilshik 12 September 2012 11: 21
                    -1
                    Hello Dear economist, Quotas are good, but why all the same prices are rising - it's like with gasoline. GDP will keep prices for half a year, people will calm down and then grow again .. Why am I Russian with my own resources of the country (land, minerals), I have to pay a triple price.
                    1. urzul
                      urzul 12 September 2012 11: 44
                      +3
                      You are the owner of an agricultural company. Well, let him be the president.
                      And I tell you, listen to him in figs, this export with the price of grain in 8000 (in the world market grain overtakes gold at the rate of price growth) per ton, let's sell in Russia at 4000, for our own.
                      Your Answer?
                      (things are not so excellent, the old equipment that needs to be updated in the park, and the farmsteads need to be repaired, for 10 years everything has only been plundered in agricultural)
                      1. geptilshik
                        geptilshik 12 September 2012 11: 49
                        -3
                        And I say no, increase Mr. President quotas, I will sell for 8000 of which I will give 3000 to you, and no president, you will sell for 8000, and give to me 6000.
                      2. urzul
                        urzul 12 September 2012 11: 56
                        +2
                        And you will earn a lot from this, no more than 20-30% should go for export, otherwise we ourselves will not be enough. And if someone says yes to the rest. I have my own family.
                        C / X now there is something to invest in, is it really rare to see new agricultural equipment on the roads?
                      3. geptilshik
                        geptilshik 12 September 2012 12: 03
                        -2
                        You yourself answered ... well, the rest.
                        There is new technology, but it is scarce, there are many lands, but there is nothing to do on it, no one and nothing.
                      4. urzul
                        urzul 12 September 2012 12: 04
                        +2
                        Those who want to eat, but need money, so do not cut in the bud
                      5. DYMITRY
                        DYMITRY 12 September 2012 12: 05
                        +2
                        Quote: geptilshik
                        And I say no, increase Mr. President quotas, I will sell for 8000 of which I will give 3000 to you, and no president, you will sell for 8000, and give to me 6000.

                        Hmm .... Just a flight of consciousness. The sleep of reason gives rise to monsters.
                        And back to the fact that the manufacturer will ask to increase export quotas, but still will not sell to the domestic market, because it is not profitable !!!
                        And tell me, in which industry do we have taxes of 75% on turnover ??? or I didn’t understand your phrase correctly:
                        Quote: geptilshik
                        no, you will sell for 8000, and give me 6000.

                        ??
        2. geptilshik
          geptilshik 12 September 2012 10: 33
          +1
          And why are you not at the resorts of the Krasnodar Territory, you need to support the Russian spa resort, and you pay our sworn enemies the Ottomans.
          1. vorobey
            vorobey 12 September 2012 10: 49
            +4
            Quote: geptilshik
            sworn enemies.


            The enemy of my enemy is my friend.
          2. bairat
            bairat 12 September 2012 13: 51
            -1
            The Ottomans get cheaper, and the level of service is higher. Those with problems with a passport travel to Sochi.
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 12 September 2012 14: 26
              +3
              Quote: bairat
              The Ottomans get cheaper, and the level of service is higher. Those with problems with a passport travel to Sochi.

              Yes, this is probably not the case; those who can already afford to go to Sochi who do not care how much they pay for their vacation. And the level of service for such guests is provided appropriate. Add - this applies only to Sochi. IMHO Sochi is one of the most expensive resorts in the world.
  21. NICK
    NICK 12 September 2012 09: 59
    +1
    Has anyone read the entire "works" of Brzezinski? Or is everyone basing their opinion on only two quotes? Maybe it was not we who began to live so luxuriously, but America started having problems that Brzezinski was forced to call for a strategic alliance with Russia? Brzezinski can be called whatever you want, but he was never a fool.
  22. volcano
    volcano 12 September 2012 10: 11
    +7
    Well, what is Putin's Russia ??
    This is a country that is slowly but surely going uphill.
    This is a country that has begun to pursue its policy and pursue its interests.
    This is a country in which, again, slowly, but the social level of the population is growing.
    This is a country in which every second official is a thief and corruption is a terrible thing.
    This is a country that has tied Europe to supply its raw materials and is trying to build new plants and factories for the money, but so far with varying success.
    This is a country that began to return to churches and ineptly be baptized on icons, although there are an extremely large number of believers, there are also among them "for the sake of fashion"
    This is a country in which more bandits are afraid of the police, because it is not yet known which is worse.
    This is a country in which there is a lousy intelligentsia, which sleeps and sees how to spoil Russia and its people for the sake of "Western crap."
    This is a country in which the self-awareness of the Russian people began to slowly but steadily return.
    This is a country in which very many ... mockingly call the president God or the king, but at the same time they expect that the worms of their dog should be deduced by him, and if he did not, then Putin is bad.
    This is a country in which the Army is languishing with "reforms" and is looking forward to when this disgrace will end.

    Well, in general ..... such a living country ..... and with good ..... and with bad ......
    1. Roman Dmitriev
      Roman Dmitriev 12 September 2012 10: 43
      +2
      volkan, it's hard to disagree with you. Great advantage. You probably have the most adequate comment.
    2. mongoose
      mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 26
      +1
      I'll tell you a story, half a year ago I talked to one ignoramus, I warned three times that I would break his face, for "this" country, I did not understand the words ..... I broke
      the betrayal of the Motherland begins with the fact that a person separates himself from Her, from the State
      1. volcano
        volcano 12 September 2012 14: 45
        +1
        Quote: mongoose
        I'll tell you a story, half a year ago I talked to one ignoramus, I warned three times that I would break his face, for "this" country, I did not understand the words ..... I broke
        the betrayal of the Motherland begins with the fact that a person separates himself from Her, from the State


        Mongoose You strike me with your thoughts no strength.
        Most likely, you separated yourself from the country, starting with the language ... if you don’t know, then do not write frank nonsense ...... otherwise you look alike.
        1. mongoose
          mongoose 14 September 2012 08: 18
          0
          what? didn’t hit the eyebrow? and in the eye?
  23. dmb
    dmb 12 September 2012 10: 30
    +3
    Ayrat was right. The fools shouted, standing in the front row. Guys, RUSSIA was not and never will be Yeltsin or Putin. They are too small subjects for her. She was neither Leninist, nor Stalinist, nor Romanovskaya. Yes, all of the above tried to rule her. The fleas riding a hefty watchdog and naively believing that they control his movement also reason about the same. But at one fine moment (for the watchdog) he begins to itch and bite .... So emigration appears. I still think that in spite of the blessed chants, the watchdog will soon begin to itch. And it’s very active. Either fleas got harmful, or they proliferated unmeasured.
  24. Alexxeg73
    Alexxeg73 12 September 2012 10: 34
    -3
    Google "How Putin hurricane in the 90s", in the first source there is a detailed history of theft in St. Petersburg in the 90s. With copies of documents.
    1. urzul
      urzul 12 September 2012 11: 03
      +3
      Referendum initiative group // IGPR Call
      Well, the guys are not bad sponsors, that would have a rating on 1 place in the requests to have, oh yes they are sewing clothes.
    2. geptilshik
      geptilshik 12 September 2012 11: 11
      -1
      And who did not hurricane, such a time was. If you do not hurricane, then the lads will not understand, and so it has been necessary since that time as a slave in the galleys to hurricane.
    3. Alexxeg73
      Alexxeg73 12 September 2012 11: 33
      -2
      And what does someone not like? But it was! And this is not a secret, not the machinations of the State Department. Everything is documented. 20 years have passed, people have a short memory, yes ....
  25. vezunchik
    vezunchik 12 September 2012 11: 19
    +4
    Russia was, is and will be! And mongrels always barked at RUSSIA, but ... sabaka barks - the wind blows.
  26. mongoose
    mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 24
    +2
    By the way, gentlemen, what can really ruin Russia is the intelligentsia, and the whining of those who hate it (Russia) fiercely, because of the "inconsistency" with their dreams, Some unknown country, which it would be more correct to call a commiland, in whose Procrustean bed they want to lay down Russia, cutting off, here and there, tens of millions of Russian lives, and for this they destroy the very essence of the people, his soul, what they call mentality, they want to replace it with a slavish atheistic-neo-pagan mentality of consumption, freedom of sin and licentiousness
    1. vorobey
      vorobey 12 September 2012 13: 05
      +3
      Quote: mongoose
      slavish atheist-neopagan mentality of consumption, freedom of sin and licentiousness


      the mongoose has bent it, into the subject and from the heart.
  27. mongoose
    mongoose 12 September 2012 12: 58
    +3
    By the way, gentlemen! do not call Brzezhinsky an anti-Soviet and an adversary of the USSR, this is somewhat wrong, the USSR has long rested in the Bose, and the Pole proceeds with hatred of Russia. He absolutely does not care about communism and liberalism, he hates Russia and Russians, as well as all the other ardent anti-Soviet
  28. taseka
    taseka 12 September 2012 13: 10
    +1
    Quote: mongoose
    what can really destroy Russia is the intelligentsia,

    Suggest mongoose remove the intelligentsia from Russia !? They removed it already once in the 17 year, along with the nobility, clergy, scientists and officers - then they snarled blood for 30 years!
    1. mongoose
      mongoose 12 September 2012 13: 27
      +1
      um, at 17 they removed the Russian educated class, by the way do you now like 100% intellectuals like Svanidze? melechin? Posner? and other non-Russians? I don’t have that.
      ps I recall an interview with L.N. Gumilyov when his correspondent called him an intellectual. He waved his hands at her and said that he was not an intellectual, he had a profession
      1. taseka
        taseka 13 September 2012 18: 40
        0
        Not! I do not like, such as Svanidze and all sorts of posers - like working out money with their craft, or rather dollars! But at the same time, and with the educated class, which was removed in 17 - you are disingenuous, we think each other, understood each other!
        And L.N. Gumilyov simply lived at a time when this very intelligentsia was shot and put in asylums!
        1. mongoose
          mongoose 14 September 2012 08: 23
          0
          I'm cunning? maybe you tell me about the fate of teachers? doctors? engineers? people who are fulfilling their patriotic duty enlisted in the army? and having an educational qualification became officers? Whom did the Communists Jews and our idiots of the proletariat (in Gopnik in modern terms) shoot with pleasure, tortured, drowned on barges, drowned locomotive fireboxes with them?
  29. Karabin
    Karabin 12 September 2012 13: 17
    -1
    The first half of the note that Putin’s Russia is not only Yeltsin’s, but better in many respects. I agree, that's just how much you can exploit this comparison and is proud of the drop dead gap from the realities of the 90s. Apparently the propagandists are the same at all times, with any system. Comparison with the 90s reminds me of a comparison of the late USSR with 1913. Of course, the author does not cite any figures for strategic areas in support of Putin's policies, because the figures are rather dull.
    The second half of the note, a quote from the notorious Russophobe Pole. Say, look, even the enemy has respect. I do not see there respect, let alone recognition of strength. I see the hotel brzezik use the situation to the benefit of the West: For the West, this New Strategy should be able to integrate Russia and Turkey into the international system of the West. ” There are some successes in this field in the West
    - The stabilization fund in their papers
    - The ruble is pegged to the dollar
    - prices for raw materials are formed by Western players and can be brought down at any time
    - Russia is in the WTO, thereby completely removing the barriers to increasing the already considerable influence of TNCs on political processes within the country, not to mention the economy.
    - The Russian elite, including representatives of the highest authorities, is fully integrated into the Western financial system. And much more.
    And do not delude yourself with words " long-term strategic alliance with Russia"According to Brzezinski, this is a political and economic takeover, deprivation of sovereignty, while maintaining the territory.
    The country's slide to the loss of sovereignty on many points in exchange for the notorious stability is Putin's policy. The GDP is quite satisfied with the West, and the West is quite satisfied with the GDP, and there is no need to drag financing of the swamp pseudo-opposition and the alleged organization of the Orange Revolution here.
  30. qube4
    qube4 12 September 2012 14: 13
    +6
    Even when I was a child in the 90s, I remember how difficult it was for parents and how much easier it is to breathe. Before people open up more and more new opportunities, but they do not see positive at all, only negative. I don’t understand what people need? All the same, everyone cannot become millionaires ...
    1. DYMITRY
      DYMITRY 12 September 2012 14: 58
      +3
      Quote: qube4
      I don’t understand what people need? All the same, everyone cannot become millionaires ...

      Well, let's say not to the people, but to individual, not the best representatives. And they do not want everyone to be millionaires, but only they, the most "creative" and in general "the most intelligent and wonderful". At the same time, they do not want to work and earn money. We need everything at once !!! And since Putin personally did not bring them a chumadan with money, then he is a scoundrel, he stole everything personally. In general, typical hamsters.
    2. Karabin
      Karabin 12 September 2012 17: 23
      -2
      Quote: qube4
      New opportunities open up before people,

      Can you be more specific? Which ones? In what areas? For what people? Otherwise, it turns out as at a rally, in front of supporters, threw in a slogan and expect "hurray."
      1. DYMITRY
        DYMITRY 13 September 2012 08: 40
        +2
        Quote: Karabin
        Can I be more specific? Which ones? In what areas? For which people?

        Open any newspaper with vacancies and look. If in the late 90s $ 100 was considered an excellent salary, now, personally, I think about buying a home, without resorting to a mortgage. I work for the military-industrial complex. Who works, he eats !!!
      2. mongoose
        mongoose 13 September 2012 08: 56
        +2
        in any, at least work with your hands, even with your brains
  31. Geton
    Geton 12 September 2012 16: 09
    -3
    I found an unusual look at the track Russia: It turned out that Putin, before the election, wanted to become a patriot in case of victory, and after the “victory” he suddenly got over it? Ask: why not? He won and decided to please Washington again. What is incomprehensible here?

    Yes, of course, this may be so, but it would be if Putin were alone. And how many of these Putin? Indeed, the current "Mr. Botox," as Putin is called in the United States, does not at all look like Putin, who is from St. Petersburg. But what happens if this is not the president, but just Putin’s double? It turns out that last year's Putin wanted to be a patriot, and his successor no longer wants to be a patriot?

    I don’t like this version.

    I do not like it because the presence of a Putin team instead of Putin alone means that Russia does not lead Putin, and it is led by a certain Viceroy (let's call it by analogy with the colony managers) and his team of specialists from Washington (also conditionally). And Putin is a kind of puppet, denoting the head of Russia.

    Accepting this version as a working one, I transfer myself to Washington, put myself in the place of the head of this viceroy and evaluate it, but could I be pleased with the work of the viceroy in Russia? I come to the conclusion - according to the results of the re-election of hunters and Putin - there is absolutely no!

    In the place of the head in Washington, I would conclude that the Viceroy in Moscow drank and skipped his entire stay in Russia and actually failed the case, losing control threads in the colony. In this regard, during the election, he and his superiors had to take extraordinary, unacceptable measures, up to a new representation of the United States as an enemy of Russia.

    Based on what facts, I conclude that Washington is dissatisfied with the work of its representative in the Russia colony?

    For example, this Viceroy was previously unaware of the mood of the citizens of Russia that he allowed Churov to conduct such preparations in the CEC and the Internet for the publication of the results of the Duma elections, after which Churov was obliged to publish them so as not to blatantly leave the Internet empty tables. After all, only this publication of the voting results gave the public the opportunity to determine the scale of the falsifications and aroused the indignation of the people. There would not be this publication of the voting results on the CEC website, there would be no indignation. Prior to Churov, not a single CEC had ever published these results. That is, the regime had become so insolent and dumb, before that, did not know the situation in Russia, that in fact it believed that the people would vote for it!
    1. Geton
      Geton 12 September 2012 16: 12
      -6
      Understand that the point here is not that the people did not vote for Е ... Россию Russia, ”one could prepare for this in advance, but that the regime (the Viceroy) did not realize such an opinion of the people, - this is a glaring sign incompetence of the head - not to know the situation at the facility entrusted to you. And the Viceroy did not know the situation in Russia with the formal availability of “information about public opinion” from “analysts” from the notorious Levada centers and the FSB!

      And what is murderous is that Putin’s regime disgusted the people in the presence of a crowd of “luminaries” and “academics” in the media completely controlled! Tens of thousands of stupid parasites gathered with the connivance of the Viceroy around the Kremlin turned out to be incapable of creative work and could not organize the regime’s victory with an honest vote count. Something for which money is paid ??

      Not only this, at the very top of the Kremlin there was not a single faithful person. Everyone turned out to be traitors to such an extent that the Viceroy did not dare to put Putin on leave during the election, as the law prescribed, since there was not a single reliable person who could be put in charge of the acting Prime Minister!

      This ex-Viceroy sent reports to Washington that everything was in his “bundle” in Russia, that everything was seized, that Putin had the party “E ... naya Russia”, that Putin had the Popular Front, millions of supporters, but there were tens of millions millions! Ten thousand couriers alone! That is, mlodogvardeytsev! The whole Russian elite! And even Nikita Mikhalkov!

      But it came to organizing just two pre-election rallies in support of Putin, and in the 10 millionth Moscow, even for the money it was impossible to find a sufficient number of at least state workers, they had to take extras from the Urals and Siberia. And on the stage to release the salivating Kurginyan and akyn Prokhanov, extracted from naphthalene, with his only song about the main thing (though with updated refrains about the specific main one).
      1. Geton
        Geton 12 September 2012 16: 14
        -4
        There were no Putin supporters in Russia in any sections of society! Voted for Putin-a complete insignificance, voting on the principle of "And who else?" Tomorrow they will vote in the same way for Limonov or Novodvorskaya, and on the same principle.

        Should I, in the place of the boss in Washington, be pleased with such a Viceroy, such a subordinate? No, such subordinates are driven from their posts by a smelly broom. And they put new ones, and explain to the new the bosses' claims to the old. Full version: http://www.ymuhin.ru/node/798/pravoslavnye-dlya-putina
        1. Lech e-mine
          Lech e-mine 12 September 2012 18: 36
          +5
          Mr. Geton, I VOTED FOR PUTIN. And I think that at the moment this politician is more suitable for RUSSIA than the other gorlopov like YOU. If you insult people who voted for PUTIN for completely different reasons, do not wait for your grateful attitude.
          1. Geton
            Geton 13 September 2012 04: 07
            -3
            Do not be rude. I personally do not insult anyone. Read carefully !
        2. volcano
          volcano 12 September 2012 20: 23
          +4
          Geton
          And for some reason it seems to me that the complete insignificance is the little people who yell ... terror ... everything is gone .... Putin is a thief ..... they go to the square to spit saliva and insult everyone in a row ..... even here ...... when you are asked such people, what do you actually want ..... and who do you think is the leader of the country ..... you are stupid (like the one that you are calling us) silent and can’t say anything ....
          when all your leaders ... receive money from our most partnery sworn friend ... and their motives are so obvious ...... that they are only incomprehensible to your orange brotherhood ...... or understandable, but then you are just TRAITORS MY COUNTRY ....... and screaming I DO NOT WANT PUTIN RUSSIA ....... in fact you scream I DO WANT RUSSIA I HATE IT .... I HATE ALL RUSSIAN AND WANT TO WORK AS OVER 30 SILVER GRAYS AND LEAVE THERE WHERE WHERE WERE GIVEN TO ME THE KONUR AND HAMBURGER

          And who after this is insignificance ????
          1. Geton
            Geton 13 September 2012 04: 09
            -5
            You need a kennel with a ratburger, and still learn to read carefully.
            1. DYMITRY
              DYMITRY 13 September 2012 08: 43
              0
              Geton
              Stupid Troll, nothing more to talk about.
              1. Geton
                Geton 13 September 2012 15: 39
                -1
                Quote: DYMITRY
                DYMITRY
                Why the clever putinoid not to read what I suggested, I'm not talking to understand?
                1. Cynic
                  Cynic 15 September 2012 17: 41
                  0
                  Listen
                  an icon indicating belonging to a society, as well as issued in the memory of any event.

                  (I think "making progress" or "coping / succeeding" does not apply to you)
                  when you read trollisms, it always strikes infantility
                  Quote: Geton
                  Do not be rude. I personally do not insult anyone. Read carefully !

                  It's after
                  Quote: Geton
                  Voted for Putin-a complete insignificance,

                  Quote: Geton
                  Kennel with a ratburger you need

                  Quote: Geton
                  Cheb those smart putinoid

                  Yes, even
                  Quote: Geton
                  what i suggested

                  Hmm.
                  Did you really suggest something?
                  Or are you talking about
                  Quote: Geton
                  I transfer myself to Washington, put myself in the place of the head of this viceroy and value

                  By the way
                  In patients with infantilism, the game mode of cognition of the world prevails over the educational one. Moreover, they are not at all like the mentally retarded.

                  I hope it is true, otherwise it is a completely different diagnosis.
                  1. Geton
                    Geton 16 September 2012 09: 14
                    0
                    Look at your eyes, and look who wrote the article!
          2. Geton
            Geton 15 September 2012 06: 18
            0
            Is it possible to justify your emotional drooling, or is it an offense for Pu?
        3. mongoose
          mongoose 13 September 2012 09: 02
          +3
          and pull the answer for the rotten bazaar? angry
          awesome! not enough of you gay on HP muzzle ... suvali?
          1. Geton
            Geton 13 September 2012 15: 37
            -3
            You are a mouse and not a mongoose, and it is not known what orientation.
            1. mongoose
              mongoose 14 September 2012 08: 26
              0
              why are you not expecting? to meet a friend? Well, don’t worry at that forum, I wiped my feet about you and I’ll laughing
          2. Cynic
            Cynic 15 September 2012 17: 44
            0
            Quote: mongoose
            Little you gay on HP2

            Well, the patient got stuck relapse provoke
            psychologists believe that homosexuality is one of the manifestations of infantilism, when a man simply does not want to take responsibility for communication with a woman, for possible future offspring. This is a kind of protection aimed at protecting a person from possible obligations.

            wink
            1. Geton
              Geton 16 September 2012 17: 49
              0
              Well, do you like homopavian?
        4. Che
          Che 13 September 2012 15: 28
          +2
          Geton,
          Should I, in the place of the boss in Washington, be pleased with such a Viceroy, such a subordinate? No, such subordinates are driven from their posts by a smelly broom. And they put new ones, and explain to the new the bosses' claims to the old.
          Amers went to hell. We can better see who we need here.
          1. Geton
            Geton 13 September 2012 16: 28
            +1
            Yes, the fact of the matter is that Pu and the liberals are Nanai boys, since the Communist Party is no longer suitable for this role!
      2. mongoose
        mongoose 13 September 2012 08: 58
        +4
        not tired of carrying nonsense? People voted for Putin, and how would you not like that is a fact! Under Putin, it was people who began to live better, at least work ... eat! Just work hard! The parasites like Nemtsov, Ryzhkov, Eddie and other daredevils (more than one Russian mug) naturally rage about what jackpot passes their raking hands
  32. wanker
    wanker 12 September 2012 17: 15
    -5
    Almost all supporters of Putin who speak of the "dashing 90s" have a slavish worldview. “I'd rather endure pain and humiliation, but I’ll get more water and bread for dinner, or they’ll kick me out altogether, if I give a voice,” they think. Okay, remain a slave, but just remember that the position of a slave is a losing one. And if your child is hit tomorrow by a black BMW with a flashing light, then only "grant-eaters-human rights activists" and "corrupt liberal media" will be able to help you achieve justice.
    1. Aleks28
      Aleks28 12 September 2012 17: 20
      +2
      Well, straight 37th. Have you read enough bedtime stories? Minus from me. For some reason, you "swampwalkers" have a good outlook: I will sell my homeland for a beach package ... Or am I wrong?
      1. wanker
        wanker 12 September 2012 17: 38
        -6
        No, it's like you sell your country for Putin's beach package.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 02
          +2
          You tell the bulk, he will support.
          1. wanker
            wanker 12 September 2012 18: 09
            -5
            And where does Bulk? Zaputintsy think, if you insert this last name in the post, then the level of their argumentation will cease to be negative?
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 13
              +1
              Suggest someone, or something like that ...
              1. wanker
                wanker 12 September 2012 18: 15
                -4
                Who to offer and why?
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 23
                  +3
                  It’s right, why to propose, break everything down the street. Your whole lousy ideology is for anyone, just against everyone, the worse it’s better there. Anyone you bet anyway will be against it. Chaos is your ideology.
                  1. wanker
                    wanker 12 September 2012 18: 29
                    -3
                    Are you adequate? I asked for clarification of whom and for what I should offer, because I don’t understand what you want from me.
                    1. Aleks28
                      Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 37
                      0
                      Well, the races understood, then try to answer.
                      1. wanker
                        wanker 12 September 2012 18: 40
                        -2
                        because not understood what you want from me

                        Are you all right with your eyesight?
                      2. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 52
                        +1
                        Yes, I'm fine with my eyesight. Yours is your question: WHAT DO YOU WANT?
                      3. wanker
                        wanker 12 September 2012 19: 00
                        -2
                        I want early parliamentary and presidential elections to be held in Russia, which would be fair and that not a pre-selected person and party would win, but those for whom the people would vote.
                      4. Che
                        Che 13 September 2012 15: 20
                        0
                        wanker,
                        We have more free and fair elections than amers. Is your paradox?
                      5. wanker
                        wanker 14 September 2012 18: 39
                        0
                        Oh really? lol
                      6. vorobey
                        vorobey 12 September 2012 18: 47
                        +3
                        alex do not tear the heart. I asked Nixon yesterday, and many times before.
                        There are no candidates from them. Just stupidly no, as there is no platform.
                      7. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 50
                        +3
                        Yes, it’s insulting to push the country into the abyss with their own hands, and even proud of it.
                      8. vorobey
                        vorobey 12 September 2012 19: 00
                        +6
                        Quote: Allex28
                        Yes, it’s insulting to push the country into the abyss with their own hands, and even proud of it.

                        It’s also a shame for me. And I also tear my throat. but which of us is bigger than zombies is another question, since shouting to them is not realistic, and they are not able to admit the obvious fact. As arguing with a neighbor about one of the pieces. Answering a question herself, she drew the line that she was a bully with a group of individuals and immediately refused. said that they must be released. So you can’t argue with zombies.

                        Most of them do not remember the hungry 90 because their parents puffed then they received feeding and other benefits in their beak. They don’t know what it is for six months without a salary, and they don’t know much more.
                      9. Aleks28
                        Aleks28 12 September 2012 19: 10
                        +4
                        These 90s will remain in my memory for the rest of my life. PS: again, someone minus out into the quiet. Here is a rat, even for this courage is not enough.
    2. Lech e-mine
      Lech e-mine 12 September 2012 18: 38
      +3
      THE MORE YOU WILL OFFEND PEOPLE (supporters of PUTIN) THE LESS THAN WILL BE THE SUPPORTERS OF YOUR VIEWS-HA HA.
      1. wanker
        wanker 12 September 2012 18: 43
        -3
        I did not insult anyone, but only gave a true analogy.
        1. Aleks28
          Aleks28 12 September 2012 19: 05
          +2
          And here's an anology from the 90s. It was in Chelyabinsk in the mid-90s. We were there on business. The guys come and say: "they found an apartment and spend the night and everything like that." They came and sat, drank, the owner went to bed after 2 glasses, well, we In the morning of the code we were leaving, the owner came up to me and said: I know that you slept with my wife, and I wasn’t just drunk, I just had to live somehow, feed the children. ”I almost howled with resentment, to which people were lowered . And now the question: Do you want such freedom?
          1. wanker
            wanker 12 September 2012 19: 17
            -3
            Do you associate freedom with poverty?
            1. Aleks28
              Aleks28 12 September 2012 19: 19
              +3
              But freedom is not enough for you? The fact is that freedom and lawlessness are two different things. Yes, in my vain I’m crucifying you won’t understand me. Just write what you are missing, only without vague wording like: Putin’s dictatorship, etc.
              1. wanker
                wanker 12 September 2012 19: 29
                -4
                Lawlessness - this is when the votes of millions of voters are stolen at the elections, and the next day, with a happy face, they accept congratulations and recognize the elections as valid.
                1. Aleks28
                  Aleks28 12 September 2012 19: 39
                  +1
                  Nobody had much to steal there. Name at least one real applicant.
                  1. wanker
                    wanker 12 September 2012 20: 55
                    -4
                    Candidates will be called themselves as soon as it becomes possible to become a candidate and win the election. And the people will choose the most worthy. Even if it will be Putin.
                    1. Cynic
                      Cynic 13 September 2012 17: 25
                      0
                      Quote: wanker
                      Challengers will name themselves

                      Verbiage You are respected. bully
      2. Aleks28
        Aleks28 12 September 2012 18: 43
        +5
        Yes, I’m not at all a supporter of Putin, but I don’t see anyone else besides him, and I won’t be for the corrupt trash like Kasparov, either. And it turns out that I am a faithful Putin.
        1. Karabin
          Karabin 12 September 2012 21: 48
          +1
          Quote: Allex28
          Yes, I’m not at all a supporter of Putin, but apart from him I don’t see anyone yet,

          And you will not see until he himself points to the next Medvedev. Once a ride, a ride and the next time. And they will also show you many times a circus with pseudo-revolutionaries Kasparov and Nemtsov, so that you finally become convinced that Putin has no alternative.
          Quote: Allex28
          So it turns out that I am a faithful Putin. Trouble and nothing more.

          You are not faithful, you are a typical Putinist, one of those who support him on the principle "if only that doesn't happen." The political steps of the GDP, its decisions, personnel and economic policy at the present stage are less important for typical Putiners than what Putin closed the 90s. Only it may turn out that as a result of what is happening now, the 90s will seem like child's play in the sandbox.
          1. Aleks28
            Aleks28 12 September 2012 21: 51
            +2
            Quote: Karabin
            And you will not see until he himself points to the next Medvedev. Once a ride, a ride and the next time. And they will also show you many times a circus with pseudo-revolutionaries Kasparov and Nemtsov, so that you finally become convinced that Putin has no alternative
            So maybe you will show which way to look.
            1. wanker
              wanker 12 September 2012 22: 51
              -2
              What kind of amorphous creature are you? Everything for you needs to be done, shown and solved.
              1. Aleks28
                Aleks28 12 September 2012 22: 55
                +2
                Quote: wanker
                What kind of amorphous creature are you? Everything for you needs to be done, shown and solved.
                You decide for yourself from the beginning, and then for others. And then you live, no country, no homeland, no flag. It’s painful to watch.
                1. wanker
                  wanker 12 September 2012 23: 11
                  -3
                  For myself, I decided and it’s not my fault that you don’t hear other people's arguments. Be still silent, after I answer your own questions.
                  no country, no homeland, no flag

                  Doesn’t it hurt to write from Germany yourself?
                  1. Aleks28
                    Aleks28 12 September 2012 23: 50
                    -1
                    Honestly, it hurts, but that's life.
                  2. Armata
                    Armata 13 September 2012 09: 11
                    +5
                    Quote: wanker
                    It’s not painful for you from Germany to write
                    You can live in Germany and remain a patriot. And you can just be a troll in Russia. Shit on everyone and consider yourself cool. Cool and think.
                    1. wanker
                      wanker 13 September 2012 14: 31
                      0
                      The patriot is now a person who writes how we can equip Russia from cozy Germany?
    3. mongoose
      mongoose 13 September 2012 09: 07
      +3
      slave? baby, are you sure about that? aah we don’t hammer chickens in gozno! mean slaves! We give birth to children and raise people as slaves! do not worship the idol standing with a torch on the banks of the Potomac! slaves! We love Russia, and not universal human slaves! We love our wives and sleep with them, and not with universal human slaves!
      filter the bazaar
      1. wanker
        wanker 13 September 2012 14: 27
        0
        filter the bazaar

        But the fact that?
        1. mongoose
          mongoose 14 September 2012 08: 28
          0
          you get chicken in gozno
  33. Lech e-mine
    Lech e-mine 12 September 2012 18: 15
    +3
    what kind of nonsense are you saying. I’m not a special supporter of PUTIN but I don’t stand people with white-orange views on the spirit. IM would have little to offer in order to destroy everything in return.
    1. Geton
      Geton 13 September 2012 15: 49
      +1
      Quote: Leha e-mine
      Lech e-mine
      Lyokha, before blaming me for orangeism, would not hurt to read what I suggested and try to understand.
  34. Seversk
    Seversk 12 September 2012 22: 10
    +1
    I'll try again in this article)))) Well, I like this moment !!!
    Watch to the end- Caution mats.
    [Generation P] Wowchik No Chance
    http://tomsk.fm/watch/219905
  35. Phlegmatic person
    Phlegmatic person 13 September 2012 17: 35
    0
    I wrote it right. good