Gazprom starts gas supplies to Hungary bypassing Ukraine

Gazprom has started gas supplies to Hungary via the Turkish Stream gas pipeline, transit through the Ukrainian GTS has been suspended. This was stated by the press service of the Ukrainian GTS Operator.

According to the company, from 7:00 am on October 1, gas transit to Hungary through the Ukrainian gas transportation system has been suspended, although the pumping capacity has been contracted and provides for the transit of up to 24,6 million cubic meters of gas per day. Instead, gas went through the Turkish Stream through the Bulgarian and Serbian GTS.

Kiev has already stated that the Ukrainian route is the most "economically profitable", but Hungary prefers to "overpay", although Kiev has never "let down" and was a "reliable transit country."

Accordingly, after Gazprom suspended the transit of gas through the Ukrainian GTS, Ukraine can no longer "buy" gas from Hungary, since the "supplies" of gas from Hungary were carried out by means of a virtual reverse, that is, the selection of the required amount of gas from the volume following the gas pipeline ... And since there is no transit, there is no import.

Earlier, Gazprom and the Hungarian company MVM CEEnergy Ltd signed a contract for direct gas supplies to Hungary in the volume of 4,5 billion cubic meters for a period of 15 years. The agreement entered into force on October 1, 2021. A feature of this contract is the supply of gas bypassing Ukraine, which greatly angered Kiev, which had lost money for transit.

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[tihonmarine]

Kiev has already stated that the Ukrainian route is the most "economically profitable", but Hungary prefers to "overpay", although Kiev has never "let down" and was a "reliable transit country."

You need to stay away from such a "reliable" partner.

[Vend]

Quote: tihonmarine

Kiev has already stated that the Ukrainian route is the most "economically profitable", but Hungary prefers to "overpay", although Kiev has never "let down" and was a "reliable transit country."

You need to stay away from such a "reliable" partner.

Here is simple mathematics, where it is cheaper, they pump through that pipe)

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Wend

Here is simple math, where it is cheaper, they pump through that pipe

And more reliable than through a "reliable partner".

[Vladimir Mashkov]

The freeloaders of the ukrovlast are sad: transit decreases and you will have to buy expensive "European" gas, from which you will not "get too much". And the population real sadness: he will have to pay for everything (and perhaps freeze)!

[Flooding]

Quote: Wend

Here is simple mathematics, where it is cheaper, they pump through that pipe)

not only mmthematics
but also a look at the short and medium term of the Ukrainian GTS
with an eye on politics and strained relations between Hungary and Ukraine

[hrych]

Quote: tihonmarine

You need to stay away from such a "reliable" partner.

The problem of the Ukrainian GTS is that in 2015 the wear rate was 85%, and by 2025 it will be close to absolute. Now the drop in transit makes it possible to compensate for the wear and tear. But, as a rule, the accident rate occurs precisely in the winter period and someone may freeze. Therefore, the logic of Hungary is flawless. But Hungary still has territorial claims to Ukraine and here someone should strain himself. When they say that there can be no military action, then they are naive. Yugoslavia and Ukraine itself are an example of the fact that there are and will be wars in Europe. Bypassing logistics is a harbinger of war. Also in Ukraine, they were outraged at the SP-2, but the ukrotransit karachun with the Turkish abbreviation. Here it has begun. SP-2 is definitely against the Poles. Large Poles are building a Baltic Pip for 10 billion cubic meters per year and this is their consumption from Yamal. The Poles themselves hoped for this top ten to increase transit to Germany and recoup Pip at the expense of Russia. But it was not there. Now the Poles want to knock down the stolen transit, because before the age of 25 they even have stable instability, while the Poles already have losses and losses. Peep at his own expense, like the sunk costs of Russophobia. Yamal was available, it did not need to be built for the consumption of Poland. The case when the pipe is the fifth leg for a lot of money. Pip he is.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: hrych

Bypassing logistics is a harbinger of war.

The comment is correct, I put a plus. Although regarding the "harbinger of war," I think here you need to know the agreement between Russia and Hungary on gas, all the answers lie there.

[Stas157]

Quote: tihonmarine

The comment is correct, I put a plus.

Also a plus. I liked that Khrych connected the logistics with geopolitical alignments, and not just with the pumping price.

[Wolf]

Hrych agree, but the war between Hungary and Ukraine? Hungary has territorial claims against both Rumunia and Ukraine against Rumunia, even much more justified. But Viktor Orban, umni man will not go to the "trap" of the war, to consider that the war with Ukraine can easily be trilateral life and from Rumunia and Rumunia from Ukraine. Fanarioti and Jesuit in Rumunia have claims on the territory of Transcarpathia in Ukraine and Moldova, and Hungary has claims to Transylvania in Rumunia.
But I have a question who supports the London Yevrei with claims to the throne (ruska crown) of Rusia Goshu, he organized a wedding in St. Petersburg. What forces in Russia are working for Hebrew London ???

[The black]

What they rode for, what they rode for. Laughter is caused by the hysteria of the leadership of ukraine on the world stage, and the Akhressor needs to spit in the eyes and needs his money, so he shakes the hearts of the hearts like zhovto-blakit cowards in the wind.

[hrych]

Goschka Hohenzollern of course will not sit on the throne under any circumstances. But such a project certainly was, and we see its remnants. In spite of him, Medvedev's project was created, where the resemblance to Nicholas II is not accidental. All this has gone into oblivion and today's reality is already different.

[Wolf]

It turns out that London has prepared a new Bronstein (Trotsky) because now there is no New York, but from London?

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Wolf

London has prepared a new Bronstein (Trotsky) as there is no way from New York now, but from London?

No, Wolf, Leva Bronstein - he's from Kentucky, he sells fried chicken.

[Wolf]

Are you joking about Trotsky ??? Trotsky was the most terrible executioner of the Russian people in history. Until now, do not criticize the evil of Trotsky and his group in the USSR

[Wolf]

You can freely say that Trotsky KILLED MORE RUSSIANS THAN HITLER !!!

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Wolf

You can freely say that Trotsky KILLED MORE RUSSIANS THAN HITLER !!!

That is why he received his own, exclusive and personal ice ax, despite the fact that he was not in the shade of trees and birches, but under the shade of palms and cacti. The award has found a "hero"

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Wolf

Are you joking about Trotsky ???

Do not take it to heart - this character got his. Of course, if only twenty years earlier, but history does not tolerate subjunctive moods. And yet, yes, for all his ghoul nature, he is also a part of the history of our country.

[Wolf]

Yes, it is also as a lesson for all future generations, so that people should be very sensitive to a character like Gosh and similar emu!

[Paranoid50]

Quote: Wolf

and as a lesson for all future generations,

Certainly.
I apologize for not being in the subject, but I will ask (I've been going for a long time):
"Partizan" or "Red Star"?

[Wolf]

What to say? I'm not a football fanatic, but Red Star is the best for me. But before Krasnaya Zvezdi there was a team that I still like by the name of "Civil"

[Metallurg_2]

It turns out that Comrade Trotsky lived a mighty 100 years.
And who, then, got an ice ax in the skull in Mexico?

[venik]

Quote: Wolf

What forces in Russia are working for Hebrew London ???

=======
And here are the very ones who work on "the same" London and are "tied"!

[Akuzenka]

But I have a question who supports the London Yevrei with claims to the throne (ruska crown) of Rusia Goshu, he organized a wedding in St. Petersburg. What forces in Russia are working for Hebrew London ???

Almost the entire Russian "elite". Children and money in London means interests there too.

[Storog dvornik]

Wise but logical like ...

[Trapp1st]

You need to stay away from such a "reliable" partner.

[1976AG]

Ukraine is very good, but better without it.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: 1976AG

Ukraine is very good, but better without it.

"I like women, but I love to see them so that I would not hear", such is the saying of one now deceased people.

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: 1976AG

Ukraine is very good, but better without it.

Klitschko: Kiev infrastructure is technically ready for the beginning of the heating season, but high gas prices and tariffs transferred to local governments make the situation close to critical.

"We are ready for technical support. But there are other challenges that make the situation close to critical: high gas prices, tariffs shifted to local government, the lack of a legislative framework to ensure the operation of heat supply companies," said the mayor of Kiev Vitaliy Klitschko.

[Brturin]

Quote: LiSiCyn

local government tariffs

here, leaving Naftogaz, Otto Waterlander called the cost of Ukrainian gas production - one hryvnia per cubic meter + some transportation ... but "high gas prices" ... all "dogs" can be let down on Hungarians, but what is at home. .. or maybe the hype about the Hungarians is to divert attention ...

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: BrTurin

here, leaving Naftogaz, Otto Waterlander named the cost of Ukrainian gas production - one hryvnia per cubic meter + some transportation ...

Vitrenko: Naftogaz systematically spends more real money on gas production than it receives from the sale of the produced gas. The difference has traditionally been covered primarily by transit receipts or financed by loans.
So, Otto "heals" ...

[Brturin]

Quote: LiSiCyn

"heals" Otto

He heals so heals, only his care and is associated with the appointment of Vitrenko ... we take the other side
"The cost of production, for example, by the state-owned company Ukrgazvydobuvannya, is approximately 2,6 hryvnia per cubic meter" + transportation (huge distances) ... industry ... but they had enough of their own production for communal services ...

[Storog dvornik]

It happens that champions have problems, but a boxer has a head not only to shorten from blows, he also EATS there and drinks ...

[Victor Tsenin]

The first swallow. How are Ukrainian experts on dirty and smelly gas doing?)

[Crimean partisan 1974]

How are Ukrainian experts on dirty and smelly gas doing?)

... how experts and embezzlers and bandits are living there in science not sickly, but the rest of the population will raise tariffs by 1 percent from October 2021, 40 ..... oh, they will heal like a lord

[Victor Tsenin]

I am very sorry, extremely sorry for the kind-hearted brotherly people.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

no need to regret, -... they had to raise their rolls from the sofas in the 14th year ..... we have all the rules in Crimea, because this jumping scum was not allowed to come to them thanks to the inhabitants of Crimea ... but these stayed out ... so they got what they deserved

[Victor Tsenin]

I disagree here for the simple reason that society is by nature quite amoebic. But this does not mean that the people should suffer and suffer undeservedly.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

that the people should suffer and suffer undeservedly.

... the wave is deserved ... if it comes to that, why did the population of Crimea and Donbass turn out to be worthy to fight back, but these did not ... so everything is deserved ... what they wanted is what we got ... we are prospering ... and they are in opera

[Victor Tsenin]

I don’t think so, for example, what kind of rebuff do you expect from a conventional Ukrainian pensioner? From a poorly educated hard worker, just from people with insufficient communication capabilities? Ordinary people suffer and pay the price, it is not honestly and conscientiously, and you yourself understand.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

what kind of rebuff do you expect from a conditional Ukrainian pensioner?

...... I don’t know Vitya ... on February 24, 2014, we were the first to take up defensive positions at the monument to Ilyich, the girls from the regional administration, which were joined by pensioners, and then we pulled ourselves together, leaving all our affairs, ... there was a desire to hang vandals on their own ropes by the legs, but the police arrived in time .... so do not drive about weak pensioners and women .... cowardice and moyahataskreynichstvost..that is the scourge of modern vnau .... I repeat ... that they deserve this and got ... fucked up everything, including your life

[Victor Tsenin]

Here's what you wrote can be attributed to 80% of the world's population. I'm not going to blame anyone, especially the typical layman, that's just the way things are. I understand that you are active, comrades are active, you are great. But - they deserve, firstly, not humanely, secondly, as if you are talking about the enemy, and thirdly, with such speeches, notes of pleasure are heard. This is wrong and unfair, I emphasize again, and sorry for people.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

This is wrong and unfair, I emphasize again, and sorry for people.

.... to each his own .... they want it to be as it is, then no one is to blame, but we wanted it like this ... ..

[Victor Tsenin]

I have no doubt that I am from Evpatoria, I know the atmosphere and mood.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I have no doubt, I'm from Evpatoria

..... ohhh ... Kirkinikida-Gezlev .... children's health resort ..... respect .... by the way, the guys from Eupator in February 2014 dug themselves into Perekop, took part in the restoration of the Turkish Wall, ... colossal work ...

[Victor Tsenin]

Respect guys, and in general, personally, my heart sings from the reunion.
I remembered the 90s, not so long ago, external emissaries, total theft and squandering, avalanche-like chaos. So I don’t remember protests and noticeable resistance, I’ll just note, so that it’s not considered that I think badly about 80%, I repeat, this is just the course of reality.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

So I don't remember any protests and noticeable resistance,

....... in fact, it was, in 98th Meshkov started a referendum in Crimea on secession from the jurisdiction of Ukraine ... however, due to the low communication of the protester, there were relatively few people. The golden eagles were demoralized, and Meshkov fled to the Russian Federation ... there was also a mass protest in Sevas, the wife of Yukhi came there with a gang to demolish the monument to Katya II, the people fell down ogogo, defended, .. then this vandal decided to demolish Artek's stella ... in view of the already high communication ... well, the Crimean February generally broke all records ... by the way, the zigzag of fate, the Crimean people in 1998 drenched the eagles with democratizers, and we met them with flowers in 2014 ... here is the truth-womb

[Victor Tsenin]

I didn’t know about the incident with Baba Yukha, it’s interesting. Be that as it may, the restoration of historical justice is triumphant.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

I did not know about the incident with Baba Yukha,

..... yes, the ointment is still the same despite the pretty face. I wonder what is there in the wnau prices raised chi not .... kent went to his son in the dnieper to visit, he will come and tell

[Victor Tsenin]

Yes, where they still have money to take, how not to bury themselves in loans and not to cut 3 skins from the people.

[Crimean partisan 1974]

wnau the law on the sale of land to foreigners came into force ... for the sake of laughter I would not buy a couple of hectares to grow melon in the Kherson region, otherwise we have melons without nitrate, the land is thin, loam

[Victor Tsenin]

While the land is being sold, the second swallow went on gas)
https://vz.ru/news/2021/10/1/1121993.html

[Crimean partisan 1974]

went the second swallow on the gas)

....... adi laugh ... I thought ... what if we inflate balloons and carry them to the border to trade ... we have gas for 5 rubles per cubic meter, they have 11 hryvnias, then if the minimum 1 g to 2 p about it turns out 20 rubles, the fat is 4 times ... ... I will ask today in the chip what the balls

[Victor Tsenin]

Please be sure to tell how the matter will go after the fact)

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Victor Tsenin

I am very sorry, extremely sorry for the kind-hearted brotherly people.

at the time of the collapse of the Soviet Union, Ukraine had one of the most powerful armies in Europe, a fairly developed mining industry, fairly good relations with neighbors on the left and right on the map, a large territory and a favorable geographical position, which gave it the advantages of a large transit country.

We, in principle, can understand how it was possible to love the army, industry, relations and part of the territory - we ourselves almost fell into this pit. Although, we must admit that the persistence with which Ukraine has been breaking through every new bottom for thirty years now, evokes a quiet delight in us.

But loving a geographical position is already aerobatics.

[Victor Tsenin]

Their curators are not going to love them, while there is still something.

[Prisoner]

Played out svidomye. They will not receive any for transit, nor will they receive "European" gas on the reverse. It is only in the fable that the elephant does not pay attention to the pug, in real life it will come and crush to hell.

[tralflot1832]

Let them reduce the price for pumping on the edge, from $ 31,5 to $ 16, and they will heal!

[LiSiCyn]

The price of gas in Europe on Friday morning reached 100 euros per MWh, or $ 1197 per thousand cubic meters.
Reverse reverse say ...? Oh well..

[prior]

It is not for Kiev to tell whom and through which pipe to buy gas.
First, let him figure it out with his reverse.
The same Hungarians do not impose their opinion on Kiev on what gas policy to pursue.

[Pavel episkop]

Let us recall the "famous phrase" of Putin: "And we have gas in our apartment - what about you?" And they have scrap metal)

[Pivot]

If they saw the pipe and handed it over to scrap metal, they would bring down the world prices for metal.

[Ramon Mercader]

How much the rope does not twist, but she doesn’t care about the beast

[Lech from Android.]

Ukraine is an unreliable transit country ... the Hungarians felt it ... besides, Kiev's stupid policy with the Hungarian minority in the Carpathians turned Budapest against Ukraine.
The time has come for reckoning for the short-sighted policy ... or there will be more.

[aszzz888]

Lech from Android. (Lech from Android)
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Ukraine is an unreliable transit country ... the Hungarians felt it ... besides, Kiev's stupid policy with the Hungarian minority in the Carpathians turned Budapest against Ukraine.
The time has come for reckoning for the short-sighted policy ... it's only the beginning.

I think that Svidomye will start spreading rot on the Hungarians at home. But the Hungarians, watching the speech of their Foreign Minister, immediately gave a very harsh and correct answer to the svidomo. Hike the piece of iron reads to warm up in earnest.

[Silver bullet]

When she could be the "Mistress of transit", but she became the owner of the trough.

[carstorm 11]

Well, this is the normal way to punish in our time. The pseudo-reverse was covered with a copper basin from there. Let's see how they will get out. At what Ze could have avoided this, but his mouth and his people, apparently, are simply not able to close in time.

[rotmistr60]

Something Kuleba is keeping quiet and what about the "serious problems" for Russia, which he promised? They jumped, galloped, or still awaits ahead.

[Slon_on]

In Dikom Pole people wandered into the steppe to harvest dung, blast furnaces opened in Kukuyev. It burns, however.

[Flooding]

Quote: Slon_on

In the Wild Field, people walked into the steppe to harvest dung

to prepare dung in the steppe, someone has to leave it there

[Luminman]

to prepare dung in the steppe, someone has to leave it there

The soldiers of the Armed Forces of Ukraine will leave him there!

[Prisoner]

Do not go to a fortune-teller, gas stoves in Ukraine will soon become cheaper.

[Luminman]

gas stoves in Ukraine will soon become cheaper

But dung and dead wood will rise in price!

[valentine light]

Yes they will buy
gas, no one refused them in Russia, only the volumes they wanted others.
Look, all Ukrainian "dukes" and "princesses" received a very strong discount, sold at a different price - this is called "Margin", the greater the difference with the selling price, the more interesting the profit.
And the people will still buy gas at the same price plus / minus 2 hryvnia per cubic meter. At the sale price.
Now Naftogaz sells gas to the population for 7.96 hryvnia per cubic meter, well, it will sell it for 8.5 hryvnia and that's it. There will be no Navar and less will go to the budget for the "war".

[riwas]

although the pumping capacity is contracted and provides for the transit of up to 24,6 million cubic meters of gas per day.

What's this? Gazprom will be forced to pay for non-existent transit? Or the total amount is indicated in the contract and Gazprom can get out.

[Nastia makarova]

will pay because download or pay contract

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

will pay because download or pay contract

No, it will not. If a buyer (for example Hungary) decides that it is better for him to receive gas via other routes, then what are the claims to Gazprom ...?

[Nastia makarova]

the trick is that he must pump at least 40 gas, it will even be less to pay for 40 anyway

[LiSiCyn]

Quote: Nastia Makarova

the trick is that he must pump at least 40 gas, it will even be less to pay for 40 anyway

Nastya, !
Should, if there is a buyer. If there are no volunteers, then we will not force anyone.

[Sergey Kulikov_3]

And who said that there will be no pumping at all, just the additional pumping will decrease.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Yes, everything is just talk in favor of the one who talks! Gazprom is obliged to pump the fortieth century through Ukraine in a year and will pump it over. Everything else on other routes that are beneficial to Gazprom.

[valentine light]

Kot Aleksandrovich, GAZPROM certainly thinks ... you are right, they will not give themselves a chance to bargain. :)

[Kronos]

You read the comments and you get the impression that the entire world economy is based on Russian gas. High energy prices will only accelerate the transition to alternative sources as they become competitive.

[ugol2]

And you can also build a Dyson sphere and become a type 2 civilization on the Kardyshev scale ...
In the meantime, the gas went past the freeloaders. And thank God.

[valentine light]

Go ahead. After all, no one objects, and Russia has already stated more than once that Nord Stream 2 was built using a technology that allows pumping HYDROGEN.

[Skay]

High energy prices will only accelerate the transition to alternative sources as they become competitive.

Well, alternative sources have shown themselves to be somewhat pale lately. In the current situation, I do not understand something else. Why don't gas caravans from the USA loom on the horizon of Europe? Or did Gazprom cut off the gas for them?

[Avior]

Gas is more expensive in Asia, they sell it to a more profitable market
Most of the gas from Russia is currently supplied to Europe under long-term contracts at much lower prices, and not to the spot market.
That is, in reality, the Germans, say, pay more than two hundred dollars, and they will not buy for a thousand

[Storog dvornik]

In Asia and LA, gas is 1500-2000 Baku per 1000 cubic meters ... This is how it will rise higher in the EU then they will be lucky ...

[Lech from Android.]

The cold winter does not agree with your theses.

[Wolf]

There are no worthy alternative sources here, the project of "green" energy of globalists and Schwab has failed miserably, gas prices are breaking records, and demand for coal has grown as well as prices, today even coal is green for Europe. Here it may turn out that shale and gas production will again begin, and this will be an environmental disaster on a global scale.
Question here who killed the students from the area colder than fusion and for what?

[Storog dvornik]

Will you personally invent these same "alternative sources" and for one will produce and deliver to everyone who wants to?
Good luck ...

[wow]

Yeah, already last winter we "switched" to alternative sources. How, how ....

[ODERVIT]

Well, with an initiative.

[Alexander Zima]

As one Russian politician expert said ... sometimes it is better and cheaper to bypass the traffic police post-.GAI.

[d1975]

More often it is necessary to knock the false Bandera on the forehead. I'm only for. We need to say one thing and do another. After all, we have good teachers.)))

[Silver bullet]

Their "Zrada" is the most cruel! Dirty Russian gas is dumb, and a football match is presented to them by the general sponsor "Gazprom" akayan! So they sit in the stadium in lace panties (thongs) with fleece and grit their teeth.

[Xlor]

Good news in the morning!

[Luminman]

Now is the time to jump!

[tralflot1832]

Comrade Orban, replied to these European Commissioners from gas: Hungary is an independent state, and it decides for itself where and how to buy gas!

[valentine light]

This is a market - the seller wants to sell "off the wheels", but wants to bring the product to the customer.
And then, after many years of Ukrainian assurances to the West that the country of Ukraine is "at war" with Russia, can sober European businessmen and officials trust a country that is "fiercely at war"?
It is safer to bypass such a country.
So Ukrainians are "multi-wise" No offense, they "sawed the branch" on which they "sat" :))
If they wanted to "go to war" at the expense of Russia, it WILL NOT work.

[zwlad]

contract for direct gas supplies to Hungary with a volume of 4,5 billion cubic meters for a period of 15 years

A feature of this contract is the supply of gas bypassing Ukraine

It was high time for the neighbors to press their tail.
Considering
"The cost of pumping Russian gas to Europe through the gas transmission system (GTS) of Ukraine will amount to $ 31,72 per 1 cubic meters, including all taxes and fees." (RBK)
Ukraine loses over $ 140 million a year.
Normally they jumped like that.

[Avior]

Money for transit is still paid, regardless of whether it was or not. Such terms of the contract

[zwlad]

HM. Maybe I'm wrong, I won't argue.
Perhaps this was done with an eye to the future.
Conclude contracts for the supply of bypass routes. That would be impossible to extend the contract with Ukraine.

[Brturin]

The question is in another area ... 1 - Ukraine and Hungary have created a single virtual point of gas supply ... 2 - in the end

Natural gas supplies to Ukraine from the EU in January-July 2021 ... 1,15 billion cubic meters m .... At the same time, 93% of the imported gas in seven months was received by "virtual reverse" (backhaul) from Hungary and Poland. This allows GTS operators to save on transportation ...
Natural gas supplies to Ukraine in 2020 increased by 12% (by 1,7 billion cubic meters) compared to 2019 - to 15,9 billion cubic meters. m. Including from Slovakia received 10,2 billion cubic meters. m of gas, Hungary - 4,2 billion cubic meters. m, Poland - 1,5 billion cubic meters. m. At the same time, 45% of the volumes were imported by "virtual reverse", which has become available since the beginning of 2020. https://www.interfax.ru/world/782918

3- if there is no transit to Hungary, there are no virtual supplies ... you will have to look for a new seller ...

[Avior]

Is Ukraine now buying gas from Hungary?
I doubt it ...

[Brturin]

"Taking into account the fact that the import of natural gas from Hungary was carried out by means of a virtual reverse, there is no possibility of import from Hungary without transit," the Ukrainian GTS Operator said in a statement released on Friday. https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/12552275
Why make such statements ... this August this year ...

In August 2021, the volume of gas transported from the EU to Ukraine amounted to almost 567 million cubic meters, which is 68 million cubic meters more than in July. This is the highest rate in 2021. This was reported by the press service of the Ukrainian GTS Operator on Wednesday, September 8. In August, receipts from Poland increased almost 5 times (in July - 7 million cubic meters, in August - about 35 million cubic meters). Hungary remained the main destination for gas imports - 87% of the total volume.https://vesti.ua/business/economics/ukraina-uvelichila-do-maksimuma-import-gaza-iz-evropy

It seems that the Venuses were the basis of the virtual reverse ... what to replace, there is an agreement with the Slovaks. but there the Slovaks laid a small volume (it is not profitable for them to lose transit), Romania (but it switched to Tour.P. and how to reverse it if gas does not go there through you), the Poles, but there are also small volumes, the main volumes through Yamal -Europe

[Avior]

Now is not August, in August there were other gas prices. Question - are they buying now?
If not, then no reverse could be interrupted.

[Brturin]

if you look a little higher - "there are no opportunities to import from Hungary without transit" ("GTS Operator of Ukraine"), and transit is stopped - the same "GTS Operator of Ukraine" (OGTSU) - "October 1, 2021 from the beginning of a new gas day (07: 00 Moscow time), the transit of natural gas through the territory of Ukraine in the direction of Hungary has been stopped. No gas transit applications have been received ”https://tsoua.com/news/gazprom-prypynyv-tranzyt-pryrodnogo-gazu-v-ugorshhynu-terytoriyeyu-ukrayiny/
There is no transit, no purchases, specifically from the Hungarians, it is possible from Slovaks or Poles (the question is in terms of volumes).
but no one canceled the physical reverse + the ability to buy additional from the same Hungarians. volumes at the Slovak outlet (last year at this time

Gazprom Export now sells a lot of gas on an electronic trading platform with supplies to Slovakia, and many traders use this to sell gas to Ukraine or store it there in conditions of almost full European storage facilities.

then. either leave it altogether, or buy, leave it in storage and then take it to Hungary, but now such auctions are stopped + old stocks

The Ukrainian GTS Operator indicates that the confirmed nominations for Hungary today amount to 6 million cubic meters. While in September the actual deliveries were over 20 million cubic meters per day. Whose gas is now being supplied to Hungary from Ukraine is unknown. Perhaps it is also fuel belonging to Hungarian traders who store it in Ukrainian storage facilities. Indirectly, this possibility is confirmed by the data of Ukrtransgaz. In the UGS facility in Ukraine, 2,8 billion cubic meters of gas from non-residents of the country is in the “customs warehouse” regime. And, for example, on September 30, 20 million cubic meters were taken from the Bilche-Volitsko-Uhersky storage facility.
https://eadaily.com/ru/news/2021/10/01/vengerskiy-operator-postavki-gaza-s-ukrainy-ne-prekrashchalis

[Avior]

Nowhere in the link does it say that there were purchases.
As far as I understand, now the price of gas is speculatively high, so Ukraine practically does not buy it.
If there are purchases, Hungary will make an order for itself for deliveries through transit across Ukraine. Hungarians make a profit from this if purchases are made.

[Storog dvornik]

The money for transit is paid in the amount of the contract, no more (if I am not mistaken 40 yards of cubic meters) ... Therefore GAZPROM does not come to auctions for additional pumping stupidly, and is waiting for the certification of SP-2 ...

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: Avior

Money for transit is still paid, regardless of whether it was or not. Such terms of the contract

It is difficult to argue with you here, since the agreement is indeed drawn up in such a way that even if Gazprom completely stops pumping through the Ukrainian GTS, it will still have to pay Kuev for the entire volume of gas agreed upon for pumping. However, the same circumstance played a role in the sense that would give Gazprom the opportunity to slap mattresses on a sly face when their State Department office recently demanded that Russia increase the volume of gas pumped for Europe, since the excess of pumping volumes in excess of the contract entails an increase tariff upward, and at the expense of Russia, to which they were told - "Go away."
Europe is chilly, dill is chilly, mattresses are raging, and Gazprom, as before, remains within the framework of the concluded contract and pumps gas only as much as was stipulated by the terms of the contract.

[yfast]

Quote: Avior

Money for transit is still paid, regardless of whether it was or not. Such terms of the contract

Why then did they start to panic at all their anal sex? You need to rejoice.

[lucul]

Why then did they start to panic at all their anal sex? You need to rejoice.

Because now they will not be able to steal gas))) No pumping - no theft)))

[svp67]

A feature of this contract is the supply of gas bypassing Ukraine, which greatly angered Kiev, which had lost money for transit.

Ukraine has now lost one of the sources of supply of "reverse gas", that is, now its deficit will begin

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Siyarte whipped Kuleba to the whole world like a two-handed man. Hungarians are well aware that Ukraine is the state of yesterday and it is stupid to have a deal with Ukraine. This is still Transcarpathia for now, keeping quiet ... And what will happen next is very interesting. The Hungarians poured a lot of money into Transcarpathia. I don’t think it’s just like that, "out of love for art"

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Crimean partisan 1974

How are Ukrainian experts on dirty and smelly gas doing?)

... how experts and embezzlers and bandits are living there in science not sickly, but the rest of the population will raise tariffs by 1 percent from October 2021, 40 ..... oh, they will heal like a lord

They'll get stuck ...

[VTR-295]

What does this news have to do with the military-industrial complex?

[eehnie]

Ukraine abused of its position as a gas transit country and now will need to face the consequences. Others abusing will face the same consequences.

It is logical that Russia does supplies only after payment, because otherwise risks to be not paid.

[agoran]

Strange presentation of the news.
"Gazprom has suspended gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS"
Gazprom stopped gas transit through the Ukrainian GTS.
And here the question is, why the panic of the Ukrainian rulers?
And the fact that there is no virtual reverse, it will not work to steal, hence the panic.
By the way, for those who say that there is enough of their own gas for the population, yes, there is enough, but there is no money to buy it. Today, a video on ukroTV is closing cinemas and houses of culture, because there is no money to pay for gas for heating.

[lopvlad]

A feature of this contract is the supply of gas bypassing Ukraine, which greatly angered Kiev, which had lost money for transit.

not so much because of this, but because the virtual reverse begins to collapse, since the Ukrainian gas transportation system cannot simultaneously pump gas in two opposite directions for itself. Therefore, there is less real gas in the Ukrainian transit pipe for selection for virtual reverse, and the more European countries there will be to use bypass routes to Ukraine, the less this gas will be.
When this gas becomes so much less, then the virtual reverse will collapse completely and this can happen quite quickly, since under the existing "pump or pay" contract, Russia can generally keep the Ukrainian pipe empty while paying for transit capacities, while Kiev always keep its GTS for pumping the volume of gas specified in the contract.
And if Kiev switches its GTS to a real reverse gas from Europe, then this will become a legitimate reason for the immediate termination of the contract between Gazprom and the operator of the Ukrainian GTS.
Kiev understands that Hungary, in fact, became the very first domino bone capable of provoking an avalanche-like refusal of European countries from the Ukrainian gas transportation system, thereby finally burying it even before the expiration of the contract with Gazprom. on the eve of winter.

[wow]

They burst out like Ukrainians! Cock roasted in the ass pecked to see hard!

[Borisych]

Now Ze's office will be cool. Does he have an office? Or just at the US Embassy?

[dub0vitsky]

Ukraine is full of its own shale gas, in the extraction of which the farmers have succeeded because of the lake. Let Bidenysh work off the loot he received and fix the disfigurement of the beautiful Nenya. The main thing is not the death of nature, but independence from Russia.