The Indian Navy joins the confrontation between Australia and China

On September 29, 2021, Rear Admiral Jaswinder Singh, on behalf of the Indian Navy, and Rear Admiral Christopher Smith, on behalf of the Australian Navy, held a meeting, after which they signed the "Terms of Reference for Negotiations between the Navies of the Two Countries." ... Earlier, the Indian and Australian military signed a "Joint Guidelines for the relationship between the Indian and Australian Navy."

According to the new signed document, India and Australia will build closer relations in the management of naval forces. In particular, the Australian Navy recently participated in the Malabar exercise conducted by the Indian Navy. The countries also held a tripartite seminar on maritime safety.

The usual phrases about the need to ensure peace, stability and security in the Indo-Pacific region hide the desire of Australia and India to establish military cooperation in all areas in the face of the growing Chinese threat. Thus, the Indian Navy is also involved in the confrontation between Australia and China.

It is clear that the United States, which is interested in forming a counterbalance to Chinese influence in the region, may be behind the decision of both states. India, a traditional adversary of China, with unresolved territorial disputes with it, is well suited to the role of one of the main restraints of Chinese expansion, especially if the West (to which Australia is also not geographically, but mentally and politically) provides all-round support to New Delhi.

In the first half of September, a four-day AUSINEX naval maneuver was carried out, during which Australian and Indian sailors practiced actions to find and destroy enemy submarines. Which enemy can send their submarines to the Indo-Pacific? First of all, we are talking about China.

Since the American fleet in South and Southeast Asia is still limited, and the British - even more so, Washington is counting on the more active participation of Australia and India. With Australia, the AUKUS bloc was formed, the appearance of which caused a widely reported scandal with France, and India is now becoming an increasingly close military partner of Australia, so to speak, along the line fleet.

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[Flooding]

the Americans turned out very strategically competently with this AUKUS
if they pull up India, Vietnam and other "friends" of China, they will form a powerful counterbalance
and China will have to reckon with this and take retaliatory steps
and certainly go for rapprochement with Russia

[The leader of the Redskins]

Union of "Sword and Plowshare"? This is me about the indices and the inhabitants of the Green Continent ...

[Alien From]

So, as they say "without noise and dust", the West showed its bestial grin .... and we all chew snot, sorry ....

[Black5Raven]

Quote: Alien From

So, as they say "without noise and dust", the west showed its bestial grin ...

Animal grin? If China did not threaten all its neighbors for the entire second half of the 20th and the beginning of the 21st there would be no such thing. Border conflicts with India and support from Pakistan, the war with Vietnam and support for the Khmer regime and the Vietnamese, the USSR (Damansky), South Korea with millions of "volunteers" during the war for the 53rd parallel. And these are only the largest and most famous.

None of the local countries in the region will be able to resist the inclinations of China alone. This alliance was only a matter of time.

[Shurik70]

Quote: Alien From

west showed its bestial grin

Rather, India has shown that it doesn't care who to be friends with. If only against China.
In vain. The Anglo-Saxons always betray as soon as it becomes profitable for them.

[Sergey Sfiedu]

You'd think Hindus have a choice. Although, yes, there is a choice - to lie under the Chinese (and, accordingly, the packs) or seek allies against the Sino-Pakistani alliance.

[Finches]

China, the obvious target of AUKUS, but the vast territories of the Russian Far East and the units and structures of the Pacific Fleet and the Eastern Military District are also under threat ... This is a very veiled goal of the Anglo-Saxons!

[antivirus]

the answer to our control of the Arctic is control of Antarctica. the groundwork for the 22nd century.
well done guys! ...

[aleks700]

Yes, not very veiled.

[Petro_tut]

but also the vast territories of the Russian Far East and the units and structures of the Pacific Fleet and the Eastern Military District are under threat ... This is a very veiled goal of the Anglo-Saxons

They cannot fight there yet, winter diapers have not been successfully tested

[hrych]

Quote: Flood

powerful counterweight
and China

If you take and look at the map, then the PRC's business is complete rubbish.

Yes, the doctrine of the Heartland, which we owe to the shocks and seas of blood of the 20th century, which eventually killed the British Empire itself and which smoothly passed into the doctrine of the Rimland of American upstarts and finally failed in Afghanistan the other day. Russia stood on the path of world domination and confirmed the actual theory of the Heartland, for it was owned and defended. Although the United States has lost world hegemony, the Anglo-Saxons and their inquisitive and sophisticated mind should not be underestimated. Now we see the birth of a new Doctrine. How she looks like? They took a tattered piece of their Anaconda and, taking advantage of the geography, the advantage of the geography of the small Rimland, they decided to strangle China. India's task is simple. To prevent a breakthrough into the Indian Ocean, and there it is not easy to block the Strait of Malacca, but very simple. The PRC itself is surrounded by Korea, Japan and its Okinawa, other islands and plus Taiwan. Independent Vietnam is important. First frontier. The Philippines is very important for reaching the Pacific Ocean. There will be a fight for influence in the Philippines. Therefore, in Tikhiy, it is the nuclear submarines that are so important, where everything American-Australo-British is thrown. What's next and why is all this? Yes, Australia is kind of geographically well protected. Information has already gone that it is being prepared for the evacuation of the American and British elite when the banking and economic bubble bursts. When racial, social and other contradictions begin, and in the USA we have already seen this, albeit in a manageable form, it is difficult to manage chaos. Those. the guys are preparing for themselves a place for evacuation, where the combined fleet will make an impregnable continent. And World domination will begin with Australia. They decided to leave Heartland ... for now, so that he destroyed himself and they would return. Perhaps they do not want to destroy China, but perhaps they will only force it to abandon the sea and move on dry land to conquer Eurasia and its resources.

[Flooding]

Quote: hrych

Yes, Australia is kind of geographically well protected. Information has already gone that it is being prepared to evacuate the American and British elite when the banking and economic bubble bursts.

to protect New Zealand, which is more climatically comfortable

[Doctor]

to protect New Zealand, which is more climatically comfortable

Yeah. These guys build mostly.
https://risingsbunkers.com/

[Eug]

The chain of islands from Sasebo to the Philippines through Taiwan allows you to "filter" access to TO .. ​​access to IO only through the narrow Strait of Malaca .. China will have to cut for land communications, and it looks like the Taliban is the first step ...

[zadorin1974]

Over the past 60 years, the PRC has managed to spoil all its neighbors. Really, everyone, everywhere, has territorial claims. I understand that in the wake of the economic upsurge, China is getting cramped within its borders. The Chinese now have money like a fool of candy wrappers, they have thought too much about themselves, But the elephant must be eaten piece by piece. The Nagles took advantage of this, and why I put the British at the head of this scam, almost all the countries involved in the union were either part of the empire or were tightly monetary dependence on the banks of England (the same Japan). For the same reason, the French were merged (again, the redistribution of influence, only business))))). Well, the mattresses here think of themselves as an airship, but this mnogohodovochka is painfully familiar. We are still number sixteen in this whole story. As they say, I will catch up I will not catch up so warm. But when the PRC is stalled, we are next on the list.

[hrych]

Quote: zadorin1974

will stall the PRC, we are next on the list.

Not. The PRC is on the way. We have already withstood and survived. Now it's their turn. Our task is to finish off the winner, and while they are butting, to increase the technological gap in weapons, which they have now achieved.

[zadorin1974]

This confrontation is just not a technological component. Here the Yuan's attack is too much of it in Africa and South America. In Afghanistan, after 20 years of war, mattresses were greatly surprised by the number of Chinese firms and investments.

[antivirus]

But when the PRC is stalled, we are next on the list.

- not even the following - BUT IMMEDIATELY STEAM. ONCE.
and Kamchatka and SrAsia fall off automatically. and Mongolia is quickly leaving ..

[zadorin1974]

Yes, there is not any engine. All these alliances are not for military action. It's just that China is shown a common FAEE. Too much money, I will even express TOO MUCH CHINESE MONEY in another way)))) The benefits of mattresses are visible - with a minimal conflict, the US introduces force majeure and external Chinese the debt went down the drain without any problems with the economy. After Brexit, England wants money. That's all. And our islands, except for the Japanese, have not resisted anyone. We do not make any weather with our TF in the region. You still forget about the frostbitten player. Kim is not sleeping. All of this is debatable. Now only popuas can be fought, with a poison bomb even a small conflict will turn into everything against everyone. This is on the stolen fools, the real power is calculated by ten steps.

[antivirus]

there is no train and never was.
and the end of economic growth Chiny and the end of our deliveries of everything there and back --- this is the end of the entire independent Far Eastern policy of the Russian Federation. with whom to be friends, to trade without bending then? The United States will change its relationship to a vassal-master (Suzerain?) As soon as possible ..

And yapas and others will climb as in 1918-22

everything is ambiguous and vague. except for marks and target designation on the C 400-500 radar.

who will need the second paths of the BAM and other "expansion of the east of the polygon"?
From 22d to 45g, the Far East lived in a state of siege .. to Karatsupa, everybody and everyone went ..
and now how 200 million Chinese will flee to the taiga? Or will everyone be taken to Africa to the lithium mines?
and much that is not yet known.
how to supply food without China Far East?
questions - xxx and another cart

the balance was built for decades.

[Lannan Shi]

Quote: zadorin1974

in the wake of economic recovery, China is getting cramped within its borders.

Yes, that's not the point. China has almost 20% of the world's population, but it is not very rich. He would not have become cramped for another half a century. The question is different. A demographic catastrophe has already begun in China. Not a problem, like we have in Russia, but a catastrophe. If in 1990 young people (15-29 years old) accounted for 31% of the population, now it is 17. And the average age of the Chinese has exceeded 42 years, against 25 in 1990. The birth rate is already below 1.3. However, there is a point of view that 1.3 is a postscript, but in fact 1.1-1.15. And taking into account the fact that for 100 men, under the age of 45, there are 82 women ... It's not just bad, and not even terrible, but a complete finish. The generation change promises to take place with odds below 0.5. Simply put, even 2 will not come to replace 1 retiring workers. China is aging so rapidly that it simply has no other choice but external expansion, raking in external resources for itself. Including human ones. This is where the legs grow, the growth of tension in Southeast Asia. China will either press down its neighbors, turning them into colonies, albeit unofficial, or begin to move out of the economy. At about the same rate as it grew.

[Petro_tut]

And also in China there are 300 lamas of unaccounted Chinese without matrices, these are those who were not registered after birth, the second children

[CYM]

Exactly. IMHO Anglo-Saxons have been pondering for some time with whom to start with Russia or China. Now the choice has obviously been made in favor of China. For Russia, this is both good and bad. It is good because the pressure on Russia from the Anglo-Saxons should, in theory, be replaced by "love games". It is bad because if Russia begins to express a propensity for a military alliance on one of the sides, an uninterested adversary can "take her out of the game" by means of a revolution or a coup.

[gohomeyanki]

Yes, they did not think, they beat and will be. Why would they suddenly stop doing this ?? They consider themselves WINNERS. Russia has become tougher to answer yes. The whipping boy begins to show displeasure.

But you need to understand that the West is also very dissatisfied, they think that they won, and Russia will fall apart, but it still does not fall apart. A revolution or a coup, but they dream about it, and dream, and try. Love games: only if they are tough, where is Russia in a lower position. Well, they won't be softer, why all of a sudden? ... they think that they won, and they think that they can put the squeeze on, and they will do this.

[Xlor]

it is being prepared to evacuate the American and British elite when the banking and economic bubble bursts

This elite is needed in our Siberia, on the coast of the Arctic Ocean. There she belongs. With a pick in hand ...

[lucul]

Russia stood on the path of world domination and confirmed the actual theory of the Heartland, for it was owned and defended.

Well, Hitler with his theory Vel also thought that frosts would help them near Moscow, but that's how it happened)))
The winner is always the one who feels the reality more.

[zwlad]

Quote: hrych

where the combined fleet will make an impregnable continent

Good theory. But!
For ICBMs with nuclear warheads, the fleet will not become an obstacle. No matter how good he is.

Australia is kind of geographically well protected

In the event of a mess, you won't be able to sit out there.

[hrych]

First, the PRC itself is less resistant to weapons of mass destruction. Secondly, a naval blockade without the use of nuclear weapons, or its limited use in the form of tactical nuclear weapons and only at sea. Thirdly, it is easier to cover with missile defense systems just Australia than the megalopolises of the United States. And the worst thing. If the elite wants to sit out in Australia, then did they decide to burn everything else.

[zwlad]

You can't sit out in Australia anyway.
If only on Mars.
Musk seems to be doing his best for them.

[hrych]

They need Elysium - heaven, but on Earth

[APASUS]

Quote: Flood

the Americans turned out very strategically competently with this AUKUS

And the infa has already gone that India was offered to transfer its gold reserves further from the problematic neighbor to the USA or Great Britain. Something tells me, this is not in vain.

[zadorin1974]

It will be the banks of England. The whole scam was started to try to regain its former greatness. Let the mattresses think and puff out their cheeks. The barge with airplanes is not just trying to wipe it off there.

[Runoway]

China will have to

It's time for the monkey to get down from the tree.
The Americans, no matter how bad they were, (although they had already slept through their economic rival) competently began to move and stop the problem growing by leaps and bounds.
By the way, for India, joining an alliance is the only way to fight a neighbor, China alone would sooner or later press it down, you can't keep up with them

[lucul]

if India is pulled up

While India is busy with the war with China, Pakistan will take half of its territory from India)))
Pakistan will not miss this opportunity.

[Petro_tut]

Pakistan has already fought with India, after which Bangladesh appeared

[Humpty]

Quote: lucul

if India is pulled up

While India is busy with the war with China, Pakistan will take half of its territory from India)))
Pakistan will not miss this opportunity.

A real war between China and India? Throwing stones over the fence is possible, there are a lot of stones. The person has already written that sometimes it turns out from the Indo-Pakistani conflicts Bangladesh. I will add that Baluchistan did not work out, but who knows in advance ...

[Sakos]

and not only Baluchistan, but rather Pashtunistan first)

[Humpty]

Quote: Sakos

and not only Baluchistan, but rather Pashtunistan first)

So yes, but mercenaries do not create stable states.

[Sakos]

I mean, the people will be able to take advantage of the moment to create a stable state, Pashtunistan, has every right to exist, and the Pashtun territories of Afghanistan and Pakistan can enter into it. Otherwise, Pakistan and Afghanistan are vinigret. Pakistan is a country of paradoxes, Punjabis are more than 50% of the population, but the official language is Urdu, which is spoken by 8% of the population)))

[Humpty]

Quote: Sakos

Pakistan is a land of paradoxes

I saw it briefly several times. Several auls along the road.

[Sakos]

Have you been to Pakistan?

[Humpty]

I went there from China several times to meet people. At the beginning of the XNUMXs, it was calm there. I haven’t come across carpets and cheap shirts.

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Flood

the Americans turned out very strategically competently with this AUKUS
if India, Vietnam and other "friends" of China are brought up

and would be glad to quarrel with the EU? dubious genius ... the idea is not bad but implemented so it would be better if they did not. although no .. everything worked out great!

Quote: Flood

they will form a powerful counterweight
and China will have to reckon with this and take retaliatory steps
and certainly go for rapprochement with Russia

and again everything fits together not badly

[bayard]

Quote: Flood

very strategically correct for the Americans

This cannot be taken away.
Now it is clear why the United States left Afghanistan so hastily and in this way?
Why, together with England, set India against China in Laddakh?
Now the zone of great conflict will be the Indo-Pacific region. And the main participants and cannon fodder will be ... China's neighbors in this very region.
Handsomely .
There is a union of Anglo-Saxon states in the region, now they are joined through Australia by India ... who is next?
Of course Japan.
And now China is in a ring of enemies with a guaranteed blockade of its trade, in the event of an aggravation of the conflict.
And, oddly enough, India became the critical mass of this blockade.
Why would Indian soldiers be maimed and killed with sticks and stones?
But then in China they celebrated the victory ...
What's next ?
Other countries of the region will gradually join the union.
Gradually.
And China traditionally has no allies , such is the doctrine.
Does Russia need to take sides?
I doubt it.
I doubt very much.
For such a situation ... And not even a union (China cannot have allies), but simply a favorable priority in relations, something VERY weighty must be offered.
Is China capable of this?
Who knows. The Chiney soul is darkness.
China is not ready for a confrontation of this magnitude. He needs at least another 5 years like air ... for a good 10, but the latter is unrealistic.
And who could give him these 5 years?
To have time to rebuild the fleet and actually turn a bunch of ships into a well-organized force ...?
To have time to build and deploy ICBMs in the very positional areas that American intelligence revealed?
To simply prepare the people and the army for the coming?

... What could China offer? For the support ?
Not for a military alliance, but for support?
... It is possible to remove all restrictions on military-technical cooperation and the supply of any "military-space" components upon the first request ...
... It is possible to create a regime of absolute priority in mutual trade ...
Perhaps by opening credit lines for Russian enterprises and national projects on the most favorable terms ... And not according to Chinese patterns, which are already well known in the world.
... Perhaps by coordinating all foreign policy initiatives of any nature in the post-Soviet space and in general where the interests of the two countries intersect.
... Perhaps by supporting the integration processes in the post-Soviet space, because in such a case, mutual support and the potential of this support will only grow and strengthen.

Is the Russian Federation ready to agree to such a rapprochement and choice of priorities?
How to know?
The Kremlin towers are so wonderful and "mysterious" that any options are possible.
How do we know if there has been a rapprochement, or "fellow travelers" each go their own way?
If American ... representations appear at Russian bases in Central Asia, unless something positive happens very quickly on the part of China ... for example, recognition of Russia's priority right to control the post-Soviet space ... or something similar, but no less bright ...
Means not agreed.
And everyone will have their own path.
... Lavrov recently stunned Western journalists with a strange phrase: "Calm down, Russia is not going to join NATO" ...
What is it for ?
And a strange request for a place at their military bases?
Wonderful things are happening under the moon ...

[Grandfather Mozai]

The monkey will not be able to sit out on the tree. Qatrans China can be said already ordered. If Japan comes up to AUKUS, it will be "more fun" for us.

[voyaka uh]

A separate military alliance has been created with Japan:
India-Australia-Japan.
AUKUS has only English-speaking countries.
A modern version of the British Commonwealth of Nations (which also exists, but weakened due to the weakening of England).

[Grandfather Mozai]

union on union is straight and everything is past China, a coincidence?) and by Russia, of course)

[voyaka uh]

Both new military alliances in the Far East are directly directed against China. They don't hide it.
They have nothing to do with Russia.

[Shiden]

You are so sure I would say the opposite. Either Russia falls into a vassal relationship with China, or it can take by force what it considers to be its own. Lessons from the Second World War, I hope you know the expansion of Japan in the Pacific Ocean was predetermined by the economy and not by ideology.

[Adimius38]

It was just that someone flattered himself with the thought that India was almost our ally. In fact, India has long been under the United States.

[Grandfather Mozai]

And yours and ours will sing and dance ..

[prior]

India is a former British colony.
And that's it.
Addiction and servility at the genetic level.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Adimius38

In fact, India has long been under the United States.

How exactly is this expressed?

[vitvit123]

Many critics reproach Russia that we have enemies, they say, there are many, we invent enemies for ourselves everywhere ... and we are so bad .., but it turns out that others are not doing well in such things ... China has there "friends" in bulk ..

[Runoway]

in reproach to Russia that we have enemies, they say, there are many, we always invent enemies for ourselves

Our trouble is, first of all, there are more enemies inside than outside.

[vitvit123]

In my opinion, this is not an easy question ... before everything seemed simple: this one does not think correctly, either an enemy or a fool .., but over time I look and understand that a person is not an enemy and not a fool, I did not understand him point of view ... and the more years it runs, the more you doubt yourself ...

[Petro_tut]

Our trouble is, first of all, there are more enemies inside than outside.

Are you proposing to arrange another civil war?

[Runoway]

Question for the article! I propose to the current government to sort out the internal problems of the country

[Petro_tut]

Question for the article! I propose to the current government to sort out the internal problems of the country

Specify
Deal with the disgruntled population or deal with yourself?
Oh, I can feel the grenades flying at me now

[rocket757]

The Indian Navy joins the confrontation between Australia and China

A large region, a difficult region ... there are large, strong, AMBITIOUS players in it ... there are only Naglo-Saxons, with their eternal desire, to play everyone against everyone is NOT ENOUGH!

[rotmistr60]

the Indian Navy is also involved in the confrontation between Australia and China

To put it bluntly, the increasing influence of the United States on India is bearing fruit. Due to territorial disputes with China, India gets involved in an American adventure and becomes a direct adversary to the PRC. Maybe all the same, before this, the Indians should once again thoroughly analyze the situations in which "for some reason" the "allies" of the United States find themselves if the latter change their plans?

[Avior]

India gets involved in an American adventure and becomes a direct adversary of the PRC

And without the United States, India was not an adversary of China, was it?

[rotmistr60]

Probably not worth comparing conflicts over territorial disputes, in which two countries participate and joining a military alliance directed against one?

[Avior]

Don't you think that one is a natural consequence of the other?
If a country is gaining enemies, it is natural that they will unite.
China has recently started very briskly, and this pushes its enemies towards each other, despite the differences

[askort154]

It is clear that the United States, which is interested in forming a counterbalance to Chinese influence in the region, may be behind the decision of both states.


The Anglo-Saxons do not want to fight alone, shedding their blood, so they create blocks. NATO was created against the USSR in the West, and SEATO in the East. After the defeat of the United States in Vietnam, and there were 5 members of SEATO, this bloc was disbanded in 1977. Now they have put together a new bloc - AUKUS, but against China and Russia. And this is in a region with a multi-billion population. This is how much human blood can be shed. But they don't care, this region is far from England and the United States, forgetting that today is not the 20th century, but 21 - modern weapons will get them there too.

[riwas]

Russia in this situation will have to difficult to maneuver in order to maintain neutrality.

[Runoway]

Russia in this situation will have to difficult to maneuver in order to maintain neutrality

You need to maneuver for a long time!
Improving the quality of life and, as a result, fertility
Raise agriculture from its knees and make maximum import substitution, factories, production and capacity.
And sitting on Erdogan's tomatoes and most of the goods from China (probably 90%) and the labor force of migrants will not do good in peacetime, and even more so about the war

[aszzz888]

The Indian Navy joins the confrontation between Australia and China

Well, that's "default". Whenever the Indians would cooperate.

[Pavel57]

An interesting alliance is outlined. Russia will be wise
a monkey watching a fight between two tigers?

[Grandfather Mozai]

sorry, I will correct you a little, we are watching, but in our own way)

[Runoway]

You need to watch when trading and gaining strength

[Pavel57]

Quote: Grandfather Mozai

sorry, I will correct you a little, we are watching, but in our own way)

Agree. We are rather bears in a pine forest.

[Pavel57]

Quote: Basarev

I would like to believe that India will bear the main costs and losses in this struggle. There are many Hindus, I don’t feel sorry for them, and the wild, in general, people, hitherto living in a caste system and practicing sati ... But it’s a pity to spend developed Anglo-Saxons. And of course, I hope that as a result of this struggle, China will be forever trampled, and all its wealth will be shared fraternally among the developed nations, which will be the beginning of a new golden age. ..... Just remember what a thrill it was to live in 6-7 years, the best of times. Now imagine that it will be like this forever. It is for the sake of such a new better life that China should be mercilessly unwound.

The experience of the Opium Wars excites Anglo-Saxon minds.

[Guru]

Basarev (Arseny
Wow ! What are you smoking there?

his riches will be divided like brothers

Somewhere I already heard it.

And a happy, well-fed life will return again,

And then !!

Now imagine that it will be like this forever

And I almost shed a tear.

[sailor roman]

India has a GDP growth of more than 3% of the world and ranks 7th in the world in terms of its growth. The population of India is about 1,4 billion and but only a little more than 20 million people live in full prosperity, these are the highest castes of India. The situation of the lower castes, the Muslim minority and the group of untouchable Dalits is still not much different from the medieval one. 70-80% of Dalits are illiterate, 90% are landless farm laborers, thousands of whom commit suicide every year due to debt, thousands become victims of violence by representatives of higher castes for various "sins" such as trying to use public wells or roads. People from the lower classes are brought up in servility and passive expectation of gifts of fate, which leaves a certain imprint on their activity. However, India is an extremely corrupt country. The elite of India has long been fed from the hands of the United States and leads their country along the routes indicated by the United States. There are certainly healthy forces in India, but their influence on foreign and domestic policy and the economy is negligible.

[aleks700]

Well, that's who shouted about the great alliance of Russia, India and China. And how do you picture it? India and China.

[megavolt823]

China is a mighty beast, but the pipiska is too small. They get technology from US-controlled corporations. Products manufactured in China are marketed in the USA, Europe and satellite countries. India is eager to follow the path of China. Become a global factory. She is promised, but not married. There are processes going on in Japan about which little is said. The people of Japan do not want to be a US base. And the Japanese economy is going through hard days. The Philippines and other countries do not want US control. AUKUS is the control and overseer of the future in the Pacific region. Where have a lot of money been invested and where is it possible to lose control over a number of countries.

[Sakos]

May China continue to support people like the Taliban!

[Rin]

India is a democratic country, it will always oppose China. And Russia will become neutral in this matter, India and China have not recognized and will not recognize the annexation of Crimea.

[zenion]

I let them talk, they live in the same ocean. Probably both fleets agree on sprat fishing already in the banks.