Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in Donbass

The topic of military-technical cooperation between Turkey and Ukraine is very important for Russia, since the Ukrainian military can use Turkish weapons to strike at the people's republics of Donbass. This was stated by the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov.

Answering the relevant question from journalists, the president's press secretary said that Moscow opposes the use of Turkish weapons in the Donbas, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine can use them against the military personnel of the DPR and LPR.

(...) Ukraine is a country that has internal conflicts in the South-East. Of course, we would not like to see such weapons systems, shall we say, be used with hot heads to strike at our own citizens of Ukraine.

- he said.

The question was asked on the eve of the meeting of the presidents of Russia and Turkey, Vladimir Putin and Recep Tayyip Erdogan, which is being held in Sochi today.

Note that Turkey has established quite good cooperation with Ukraine in the military-technical sphere. The countries have signed several agreements providing for the purchase of weapons, as well as the construction of ships for the Ukrainian Navy. In addition, Ukraine views Turkey as a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, which will help the country achieve "NATO standards."

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[Orange bigg]

... Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in Donbass

Well, why is this strange statement? This is the arms market, where everyone buys what he wants and uses where he wants. Turn on the air defense of the Donbass, together with the operators of these air defenses, it is natural to shoot down these Bayraktars like in Syria.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement?

It can be assumed that Peskov is veiledly hinting at something like this

That is, if the Armed Forces of Ukraine pokes their bailiffs into the Donbass, then ours will knock them down so that no one will notice anything.
Naturally, screams about Russian interference will start again, but
1. We are no strangers, so don't care.
2. The Ukrainian Armed Forces will lose millions of dollars worth of equipment. But, in principle, they are also no strangers.
3. Shining, like a supernova, the halo of the all-destruction of the bayraktars will significantly darken. That the Turks do not really need nafig.

[midivan]

Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich

It can be assumed

It is impossible, because it will not be Erdogan who will lose statehood, but the chubby ones. But to assume that ours expect a patriotic uplift in the spirit of embroidered shirts and the resumption of b / d with the help of "almighty" Bayraktars and a couple of boats from our partners (© VVP), which will untie Kozhugetovich's hands, and then we'll see what the St. Petersburg gateways have taught - when there are fights cannot be avoided.

[Karabin]

Quote: midivan

which will untie Kozhugetovich's hands, and then we'll see what the St. Petersburg gateways have taught - when a fight cannot be avoided.

Red lines "untie hands Kozhugetovich all the time they move somewhere. Gateways are taught to spread rot on the weak and curry favor with the strong, that's why they are gateways.

[midivan]

Quote: Karabin

The red lines "untie Kozhugetovich's hands are constantly shifting somewhere.

Well, why somewhere, everything is as usual - in the right, and most sick of it.

Quote: Karabin

Gateways are taught to spread rot on the weak and curry favor with the strong, that's why they are gateways.

The gateway to the gateway is different, as practice shows, in St. Petersburg, polite is too visible, but the word is not a sparrow, we will see ... Whatever one may say, but there was a precedent without any ingratiations - polite and beautiful.

[dorz]

Our friends have long ago put a bolt on all concerns.

[Peak]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement?

And to the meeting between Putin and Erdogan

It is in our power to put Turkey in such conditions that they demanded that Kiev not even try to use Turkish-made weapons in the Donbass.
In the same way as happened with the loudly sensational American "Darts", which are stored in warehouses somewhere in the vicinity of Lviv ...

[Gardamir]

It is in our power to deliver

It’s beyond your power. because Someone is very happy that the trade turnover between Russia and Turkey has grown by 50%.

[Peak]

Quote: Gardamir

It’s beyond your power.

You think so, not knowing about the hidden levers of diplomacy.

You will see - Ukraine, quietly, quietly, so as not to advertise another zrada, will remove "Bayraktary" at the urgent request of "Rajap's friend" away from Donbass

[Gardamir]

unaware of the hidden levers of diplomacy.

I will not talk about 20 years. the last seven years are enough to see where these levers are pointing.

[Peak]

Quote: Gardamir

unaware of the hidden levers of diplomacy.

I will not talk about 20 years. the last seven years are enough to see where these levers are pointing.

Judge superficially, like an ukro-Indian Leader - by tomatoes ...

Do you know what the outstanding Soviet diplomat Gromyko was called in the West?

Let me remind you - "Mister NO"

So, the same West, after ten years, calls Lavrov similarly - " Minister NO"

Foreign Policy (US): "Minister No" comes to his favorite territory at the UN

23.09.2021

Robbie Gramer, Amy Mackinnon, Colum Lynch

In late 2003, then-UN Secretary General Kofi Annan tried to ban smoking at headquarters in New York. Most experienced diplomats just rolled their eyes and complained, but one decided to resist.

Sergei Lavrov, then Russia's ambassador to the UN, lashed out at Annan and proudly violated the ban, continuing to parade inside the walls of the headquarters. “The UN building belongs to all member countries, and the secretary general is just a hired manager,” he said. Experienced diplomats then considered that this was the whole Lavrov - his harsh and sarcastic approach later he would show at the head of Russian diplomacy.

This week Lavrov will return to his native land, most likely in order to prick the United States and its Western allies in his address to the UN General Assembly.

[The leader of the Redskins]

Prick in the style of Lavrov and say nolike Gromyko, these are two different things ...

[Peak]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

To prick in Lavrov's style and say no, like Gromyko, are two different things ...

In the beginning, reach a level when the fate of the world will depend on your words and your decision, and then discuss in comparisons certain qualities of individuals who are truly extraordinary.

[The leader of the Redskins]

The same can be written about your deep knowledge of hidden levers of diplomacy ...

[Peak]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

The same can be written about your deep knowledge of the hidden levers of diplomacy ...

So you Write at least something intelligible , and do not demand to explain on your fingers something that you do not understand at all.

[2 Level Advisor]

Sergey Viktorovich, I'm sorry they didn't recognize it right away ... it's clear that someone, and you know everything about hidden levers, unlike the others on VO ...

[Hypertension]

Quote: PiK

the same West, after a decade, calls Lavrov similarly - " Minister NO"

And this is a very accurate nickname! Because:

Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov and Defense Minister Sergei Shoigu, who were included in the top five of the United Russia’s list in the elections to the State Duma, submitted applications to the Central Election Commission (CEC) to renounce their mandates of State Duma deputies, TASS reported, citing a draft CEC resolution.

Promoted Edro and waking up! But this is fraud and deception of voters. Traded a face, as they say ...
https://www.vedomosti.ru/politics/news/2021/09/29/888875-lavrov-shoigu

[The leader of the Redskins]

In general, the news is interestingly presented:
in the text we do not want - that is, we have no desire, but already twisted as против that is, protests

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

In general, the news is interestingly presented:
in the text we do not want - that is, we have no desire, but already twisted as против that is, protests

and does not mention any "republics" of Peskov. "Ukraine's internal conflict," he said, according to the quote in the article.

[Alf]

Quote: PiK

It is in our power to put Turkey in such conditions that they demanded that Kiev not even try to use Turkish-made weapons in the Donbass.

But the fact that ? Will we not buy tomatoes or will we close the resorts?

[Terenin]

Of course, we would not like to see such weapons systems, shall we say, be used with hot heads to strike at our own citizens of Ukraine.

And once again a quiet hello to the Kursk formations

[Peak]

Quote: Terenin

And once again, a quiet hello Kursk formations

Which formations ?

[mvg]

What do you have against Kursk?

[Terenin]

Quote: mvg

What do you have against Kursk?

In such a situation, the sister nation

[Clear]

Quote: Terenin

Quote: mvg

What do you have against Kursk?

In such a situation, the sister nation

And he has the right to establish military-economic relations independently at the level of ... village councils and local teips .

[Runoway]

Turn on the air defense of Donbass,

There is no need to rush anything to anyone, you need to start up the SP-2, sign long-term contracts and, finally, hold a referendum in the DPR and LPR, there is simply no other way to save these people, 7 years of drama and turmoil

[Peak]

Quote: Runoway

There is no need to rush anything to anyone, you need to start up the SP-2, sign long-term contracts and, finally, hold a referendum in the DPR and LPR, there is simply no other way to save these people, 7 years of drama and turmoil

And the process is going on Not so soon, of course, as we would like, but still ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Runoway

Turn on the air defense of Donbass,

There is no need to rush anything to anyone, you need to start up the SP-2, sign long-term contracts and, finally, hold a referendum in the DPR and LPR, there is simply no other way to save these people, 7 years of drama and turmoil

The referendum was in 2014 in the DPR and LPR, and now no one will allow the referendum to be held. You just need to recognize the republics as Russia and take them under protection, and after the war with Ukraine and the exit to the administrative borders, it is already possible to hold a referendum and nothing else, otherwise it is possible was in 2014, but then, for some reason, they didn’t do this to the multi-moves, and now only the war with Ukraine or the surrender of the republics, and as a result of the surrender of the republics, the political situation is the same as Milosevic's after the surrender of Serbian Krajina, that is, a change of power. so.

[Peak]

Quote: OrangeBigg

The referendum was in 2014 in the DPR and LPR, and now no one will allow the referendum to be held.

How and who will prevent the republics from holding a referendum?
During the actual existence, the republics, in addition to the referendum, held elections, and nothing

Nobody could hinder this process.

[Terenin]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement?

Yes, because this is a sandy press secretary who is tired of us in the first place. Better a young general in a skirt, at least one organ will not be indignant

[askort154]

Terenin ....Yes, because this is a sandy press secretary, tired of us in the first place.

The goggle-eyed Jew never speaks to the camera on TV, but only mutters text against the background of his picture in the frame. And this has been constant for ten years.
It is a shame for such a "press secretary of the president."

[Orange bigg]

Mr. Blizzard.

[mitroha]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Mr. Blizzard.

And that Yastrzhembsky was better, or what? That's why they are talking heads

[Cananecat]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement?

It's much worse ...

... to strike at its own citizens of Ukraine

Not for Russian-speaking citizens of Ukraine, but simply for its citizens. If the phrase is given accurately, then this can be regarded as interference in internal affairs and raise a howl ... no one is interested in the fact that they are at war with Russia, which does not know about it ...

[Shahno]

Peskov expresses his opinion. Personal.
Ps. Well, he probably earns little money in the Turkish segment, so he does.

[Karabin]

Quote: Shahno

Peskov expresses his opinion. Personal.

A press secretary cannot express a personal opinion. A-priory.

[mitroha]

In fact, it can, but if it does not go against the line of the "party", or is expressed confidentially, indicating this

[Stas157]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement? This is the arms market, where everyone buys what he wants and uses where he wants.

The Kurds would definitely not give up Russian weapons! Why aren't they supplied?

[Zaurbek]

Air defense (with tactics similar to Karabakh) will be very difficult. And to do layered air defense - Show that the Russian Federation is there ....... and if you show it, it's easier to enter a no-fly zone, there are a lot of airfields with modern fighters nearby.

[Uncle lee]

were used to strike at their own citizens of Ukraine

The LDNR is full of Russian citizens! And these blows must not be allowed!

[Orange bigg]

... by own citizens of Ukraine

Those Ukrainian citizens who have Russian passports and who are in fact citizens of Russia. Are they confused in the Kremlin?

[Uncle lee]

Quote: OrangeBigg

confused or what?

"Peskov carries a blizzard" - V.V. Putin ....

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: OrangeBigg

confused or what?

"Peskov carries a blizzard" - V.V. Putin ....

Again a blizzard and toils of the past in the dark. Again a blizzard.

[Terenin]

Quote: Uncle Lee

were used to strike at their own citizens of Ukraine

The LDNR is full of Russian citizens! And these blows must not be allowed!

I am a peaceful person by nature, but in a similar situation, in a coffin I saw such a peaceful coexistence with the enlightened ...

[Professor]

Quote from Uncle Lee

The LDNR is full of Russian citizens! And these blows must not be allowed!

Urgently evacuate citizens to their homeland when it is dangerous abroad.

[Peak]

Quote: professor

Urgently evacuate citizens to their homeland when it is dangerous abroad.

Professor, you have already evacuated from Russia to the Promised Land, where you will go further when you are rusty "Cashams"will pierce your no less rusty again"Iron dome"?

[Professor]

I am at home. I'm going nowhere else. Moreover, he "skidded" from a non-belligerent country with the highest level of spirituality in the world to a country with rusty Kasams.

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

[Peak]

Quote: professor

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

Methods of "return" from invasion and terrorist missions that you practice and share with your striped-eared patron partners, we categorically do not share

[Professor]

Quote: PiK

Quote: professor

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

Methods of "return" from invasion and terrorist missions that you practice and share with your striped-eared patron partners, we categorically do not share

It is the duty of every state to return the soldiers home. The USSR never returned all the fallen soldiers from Afgan.

PS
Well done Americans. They bury their soldiers with honors, not buried them on the sly.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: professor

I am at home. I'm going nowhere else. Moreover, he "skidded" from a non-belligerent country with the highest level of spirituality in the world to a country with rusty Kasams.

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

Then let Ukraine return its citizens from Donbass to their homes.

[mitroha]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Then let Ukraine return its citizens from Donbass to their homes.

For a start, at least your soldiers

[mitroha]

Quote: professor

The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

And the task of some Great People is to give these countries a territory where they will become countries, and then smart people will come there, who will attribute all the achievements to themselves.

[aszzz888]

Mitroha (Alex)
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Quote: professor
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

And the task of some Great People is to give these countries a territory where they will become countries, and then they will come there. clever people who will attribute all achievements to themselves.

So, without the rogue, Israel would have gone all over the world!

[Terenin]

Quote: professor

I am at home. I'm going nowhere else. Moreover, he "skidded" from a non-belligerent country with the highest level of spirituality in the world to a country with rusty Kasams.

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

It's clear. It squeezes under the spoon and you can't calm it down. Hold on to comrades.

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Terenin (Gennady)
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Quote: professor
I am at home. I'm going nowhere else. Moreover, he "skied" from a non-belligerent country with the highest level of spirituality in the world to a country with rusty Kasams. fellow

PS
The task of each country is to return its citizens to the territory of the country.

It's clear. It squeezes under the spoon and you can't calm it down. Hold on to your friend... drinks

Presses on him and how! Only not "under the spoon," but fierce hatred of Russia. He has every post - that slop in the Russian Federation.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
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I am at home. I'm going nowhere else. And "skedaddle" from a non-belligerent country with the highest level of spirituality in the world to a country with rusty Kasams. fellow

and with whom is the Russian Federation at war now? again adding substance to the fan?

to the country with rusty Kasams.

it is your personal grief that rusty pipes are falling on you, which David's pimple cannot knock down!

[Orange bigg]

Quote: professor

Quote from Uncle Lee

The LDNR is full of Russian citizens! And these blows must not be allowed!

Urgently evacuate citizens to their homeland when it is dangerous abroad.

Are you talking about the Israelis? That it has become dangerous to live in Palestine? They decided to evacuate to their homeland? Together with the land is true. Since there is no other homeland. So every year we have to evacuate from Palestine along with the land to Israel. As a result, Israel is growing, and Palestine is decreasing.
Abroad is Ukraine. LDNR is not abroad for citizens of Donbass. It is their homeland. And it is not for you to decide who and where to evacuate. For you, after all, no one decides where the citizens of Israel should evacuate, so you, too, do not decide for anyone.
PS
I have nothing against the Israelis. It's just that facts are stubborn things. And before you advise anyone anything, try this advice on yourself first.

[Professor]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Quote: professor

Quote from Uncle Lee

The LDNR is full of Russian citizens! And these blows must not be allowed!

Urgently evacuate citizens to their homeland when it is dangerous abroad.

Are you talking about the Israelis? That it has become dangerous to live in Palestine? They decided to evacuate to their homeland? Together with the land is true. Since there is no other homeland. So every year we have to evacuate from Palestine along with the land to Israel. As a result, Israel is growing, and Palestine is decreasing.
Abroad is Ukraine. LDNR is not abroad for citizens of Donbass. It is their homeland. And it is not for you to decide who and where to evacuate. For you, after all, no one decides where the citizens of Israel should evacuate, so you, too, do not decide for anyone.
PS
I have nothing against the Israelis. It's just that facts are stubborn things. And before you advise anyone anything, try this advice on yourself first.

Palestine? No, I have not. Where is it?

Donbass is Ukraine. Check your Foreign Office cards. These are the facts.

[Orange bigg]

.Palestine? No, I have not.

Memory losses? Hopefully not conscious.

Donbass is Ukraine.

Nothing of the kind. I don’t understand and why are you tearing up the fifth point for Ukraine? What is the secret that you’re not breathing so evenly in relation to Ukraine? Interestingly. Do not satisfy the interest?

... Check your Foreign Office cards.

Checking the belonging of the territory on the map is like checking the belonging to this or that ethnic group with the help of a passport. These are the facts.

[Professor]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Memory losses? Hopefully not conscious.

Refresh your mind with the Palestinian capital and banknotes.

Quote: OrangeBigg

Donbass is Ukraine.

Nothing of the kind. I don’t understand and why are you tearing up the fifth point for Ukraine? What is the secret that you’re not breathing so evenly in relation to Ukraine? Interestingly. Do not satisfy the interest?

I checked again the messages of the Russian Foreign Ministry. Donbass -Ukraine. Take Lavrov to court.

Quote: OrangeBigg

Checking the belonging of the territory on the map is like checking the belonging to this or that ethnic group with the help of a passport. These are the facts.

Facts on the website of your M&D. Or is the Foreign Ministry lying?

[Orange bigg]

What have you all arranged for the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry? None of my questions were answered properly. You refer everything to the Foreign Ministry. Is it because of the position of our Foreign Ministry that you are in favor of Ukraine?

[aszzz888]

OrangeBigg (Alexander)
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What have you all arranged for the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry, the Foreign Ministry? None of my questions were answered properly. You refer everything to the Foreign Ministry. Is it because of the position of our Foreign Ministry that you are in favor of Ukraine?

Never mind. This is his style of communication.

[Professor]

Refresh your mind with the Palestinian capital and banknotes.

[Terenin]

Quote: professor

Refresh your mind with the Palestinian capital and banknotes.

Come on with your mossy tori. Recently Rostislav Holstein (the head of the Jewish Autonomous Region of the Russian Federation) said that no one has such profitable logistics, no one is more profitable to China than the Jewish Autonomous Region ... Doesn't sound like you

[aszzz888]

Terenin (Gennady)
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Quote: professor
Refresh your mind with the Palestinian capital and banknotes.

Come on with your mossy tori. Vaughn recently Rostislav Holstein (head of the Jewish Autonomous Region of the Russian Federation) said that no one has such profitable logistics, no one is more profitable to China than the Jewish Autonomous Region ... Or have you already invested everything in a salary dad? Doesn't look like you no

He has one product - Russophobia, which is quoted by the Merikatos and Co.

[Terenin]

Quote: aszzz888

Terenin (Gennady)
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Quote: professor
Refresh your mind with the Palestinian capital and banknotes.

Come on with your mossy tori. Vaughn recently Rostislav Holstein (head of the Jewish Autonomous Region of the Russian Federation) said that no one has such profitable logistics, no one is more profitable to China than the Jewish Autonomous Region ... Or have you already invested everything in a salary dad? Doesn't look like you no

He has one product - Russophobia, which is quoted by the Merikatos and Co.

And, sho do, even not a poor Jew, if the goods are bought.

[aszzz888]

Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Yesterday, 20:38 Refresh in the memory of the capital of Palestine and banknotes ...

"Something has become of your memory!"

Ramallah [2] [3], Ramallah [4] [5] [6] (Arabic Sound رام الله - Ram-Allah [7]; Hebrew רמאללה) is a Palestinian city in the central part of the West Bank of the Jordan River adjacent to El Bir. Located 13 km north of Jerusalem.

Since 1993 serves as the administrative capital of the Palestinian Authority, created as a result of the Oslo Accords

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OrangeBigg (Alexander)
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.Palestine? No, I have not.

Memory losses? wink I hope not realized. ...

he has selective memory gaps. When he needs it, he remembers EVERYTHING!

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Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
Yesterday, 20: 24
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...Palestine? No, I have not. Where is it?

For the gifted)), and even under the nickname "professor"

Palestine
The State of Palestine is a de jure independent partially recognized state in the Middle East that is in the process of being created. The independence of the State of Palestine as of the end of July 2019 was recognized by 138 out of 193 UN member states. Wikipedia

pi.si. if your memory is a little tight, write it down and hang it before your eyes. Will remind and cheer up!

[Zaurbek]

Or move the border.

[Hypertension]

"Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in the Donbas"
And Erdogan listens, but eats ...

[Orange bigg]

Turkey opposes the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the Turkomans in Idlib. Russia is of little concern, although the situations are similar.

[Peak]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Turkey opposes the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the Turkomans in Idlib. Russia does not care much.
Although the situations are similar.

But the weight - that, political, military and economic, we and the Turks - are different.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: PiK

Quote: OrangeBigg

Turkey opposes the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the Turkomans in Idlib. Russia does not care much.
Although the situations are similar.

But the weight - that, political, military and economic, we and the Turks - are different.

So it might be better to negotiate on mutually beneficial terms?

[Peak]

Quote: OrangeBigg

So it might be better to negotiate on mutually beneficial terms?

We already provide the Turks with the most favorable conditions just for the fact that they Vanka Dzhamshut was not felled

[anjey]

The Turks are also used by the USA, it's just that Erdi has already rubbed two chairs to the point that he falls between them, as the son of a Turkish citizen said, Osya Bander-ice moved

[Shahno]

I don’t think the Turks are tied with the EU and NATO. And you are not very fond of foreign influence, you are bred on this.

[anjey]

The EU (NATO) are their vassals (USA), just like you (Israel), so I didn't even mention them The United States is simply "turning on the fool" for now, not understanding how to use its military-political resources correctly (temporary degradation)EU, by the way, the Turks are sent for a very long time and far , again with the knowledge of the United States, so that there is intrigue on intrigue, so the Turks have no joke imbalance, and their geopolitical appetites are not even very good (with Western support and their desire to play off with Russia). Maybe a real and permanent alliance with Russia will bring Turkey a balance in to all Erdi be consistent and constant and you will be happy

[Sanichsan]

Quote: Shahno

I don’t think the Turks are tied with the EU and NATO.

what does "tied" mean? after the failed coup, Erdogan plays on his own. Let me remind you of a few interesting points.
when Turkey pressed the Kurds, the United States openly supplied weapons to the Kurds, including ATGM. both countries are members of NATO.
recently the Turks began to develop the Cypriot shelf and France began to threaten them with sending their fleet. both countries are NATO members.
Turkey regularly blackmails the EU with migrants.
are you still sure that the Turks are someone's vassals?

[Alf]

Quote: PiK

Quote: OrangeBigg

Turkey opposes the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the Turkomans in Idlib. Russia does not care much.
Although the situations are similar.

But the weight - that, political, military and economic, we and the Turks - are different.

Who else is unclear ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Alf

Quote: PiK

Quote: OrangeBigg

Turkey opposes the use of the Russian Aerospace Forces against the Turkomans in Idlib. Russia does not care much.
Although the situations are similar.

But the weight - that, political, military and economic, we and the Turks - are different.

Who else is unclear ...

Obamych has more, if you mean what I thought.

[midivan]

Quote: Hyperion

"Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in the Donbas"
And Erdogan listens, but eats ...

Peskov was not old enough to be listened to by Erdogan, but it was interesting to see Edik's welcoming speech and Putin's reaction.

[Hypertension]

Quote: midivan

Peskov is not old enough to be listened to by Erdogan

That is, that is ... In the video, Erdogan and Peskov do not bow around, and so, quite simply, by their last name ...

[Terenin]

Quote: Hyperion

"Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in the Donbas"
And Erdogan listens, but eats ...

That's right, the first one is listening ...

[Hypertension]

Quote: Terenin

the first is listening ...

He listens ... Does he listen - that's the question. Or so - flew into one ear, flew out of the other.

[Roma 1977]

Why Turkish? I would like to hear that Russia is against the use of Soviet weapons in the Donbass, and that if found, it will attack it.

[businessv]

In addition, Ukraine views Turkey as a member of the North Atlantic Alliance, which will help the country achieve "NATO standards."

About 20 years ago, someone from KVNschikov, I do not remember who exactly, wrote an article about the Square, in which he painted this country as a beggar, sitting in the center of Europe for 300 years, changing masters depending on who will give it more or "will do well "and independently undertaking nothing in order to become that very Europe with all that it implies! The article, in my opinion, only confirms this state of the square, which continues today. The masters were changed, poverty remained, now Turkey is next in line to change something, if the current owner allows.

[eehnie]

Taking into account the presence in the US Armed Forces of the M101 105mm and other weapons, it is evident the low level of the NATO standards. If this is the aspiration of Ukraine ...

[businessv]

Quote: eehnie

Taking into account the presence in the US Armed Forces of the M101 105mm and other weapons, it is evident the low level of the NATO standards. If this is the aspiration of Ukraine ...

Yes, but If they (Ukrainians) wanted to be strong ... They just want to be rich, but do nothing for it!

[eehnie]

It is logical to see the territories of Donetsk and Lugansk, Abkhazia and South Ossetia to raise the level of their military forces to the standards of the Russian Armed Foces, by the low technological end. It helps Russia to avoid attrition effects in its help to Syria, it helps to the cited territories, raising its military level with their replacement, and also it helps to Syria to keep safer its most advanced armament. As a consequence, the material that disappeared in the Russian Armed Forces, would also disappear in these territories, following the same way of help to Syria.

All it makes perfectly possible to see material that was in the Ukrainian and Georgian Armed Forces fighting against the paramilitary Turks in Syria. And Turkey is much weaker to attraction than Russia.

[businessv]

Quote: eehnie

And Turkey is much weaker to attraction than Russia.

Absolutely! Our strong spirit and our vast (huge) territories have always helped us to survive!

[Irek]

It is necessary to "land" a couple of pieces, they will stop flying over the Republics at once.

[askort154]

Note that Turkey has established quite good cooperation with Ukraine in the military-technical sphere.

Erdogan does not cooperate, he brazenly climbs against Russia, framing it under the dictation of the Anglo-Saxons. That is why he is so "cool" and behaves. But in fact, it is carrying out the strategy of the Anglo-Americans under the control of MI6. Azeybarjan has already got his hands on it. Climbed into Syria and Ukraine. Next in line is Central Asia. The Anglo-Saxons need to close the "anaconda loop" around Russia. The former Warsaw Pact countries completed the framing from the West, Turkey through Azerbaijan begins to fram the southern direction.
And we continue to lisp with "friend Erdogan".

[Dikson]

And in fact, what weight does such a statement by Mr. Peskov have? The sale of weapons by Turkey to Ukraine is the business of Ukraine and Turkey. Sad as it may seem .. The Americans were also against the purchase of the S-400 by Turkey .. So what? The most effective option is to sink or arrest ships carrying weapons .. But this is an international scandal .. Only Americans are allowed to seize and inspect other people's ships .. You can still shout about it for your own money in PACE .. - this will not change this situation ... Turkish weapons cannot be used in Donbass, but American ones? Is it Polish or Israeli?

[Avior]

... The most effective option is to sink or arrest ships carrying weapons .. But this is an international scandal ..

If we are talking about Turkish ships, then this is also a guaranteed blocking of the straits.
So so idea

[RoTTor]

It is unlikely to be controlled with any promises from Ukraine and Turkey.
Erdogan imagines that he is the most cunning and clever and can be seen on a dozen chairs at once by one woman.
But let him immediately and publicly answer, WHOSE CRIMEA?

[Karabin]

Quote: RoTTor

But let him immediately and publicly answer, WHOSE CRIMEA?

In my opinion, Erdogan has publicly and repeatedly declared that Crimea is Ukrainian. Last time last week.

[Old ensign]

As always, there are many opposing opinions on the topic of Ukraine. Bayraktars will fly over the Donbass, whether Russia likes it or not. This is not 2014.

[Maxalov]

Something Erdogan in recent years has "a plug in every barrel."
If you behave this way, then Russia can supply the Kurds with something "cunning" MANPADS, for example, or anti-tanks .. How do you like this alignment of the Turks? Run up sometime, as an adult

[Karabin]

Quote: Maxalov

Straight up to Russia in all spheres of Russia's political influence ..

Bullying is not the right word. In the Transcaucasia, the Turks have significantly moved the Russian Federation.

[Maxalov]

Quote: Karabin

Quote: Maxalov

Straight up to Russia in all spheres of Russia's political influence ..

Bullying is not the right word. In the Transcaucasia, the Turks have significantly moved the Russian Federation.

And inside Russia, if you remember, the pro-Turkish Azerbaijanis insolently celebrated with the flags of Turkey, violating all the rules and laws, and the police were inactive .. It was a shame to watch, but if something serious happens?

[Borisych]

The Turks realize that the reputation of their UAVs is under threat, this is without a doubt, all the options have been calculated. Tor M2 will take the Turk without problems, and it will be a blow to reputation, which is not worth Ukraine's money. Erdogan will explain the situation to the clown, this is a fact.

[Karabin]

Quote: Borisych

Tor M2 will take the Turk without problems, and it will be a blow to reputation, which is not worth Ukraine's money.

The Turk flunked Su and the ambassador without any problems, Azerbaijan - the turntable. So maybe we will look at our reputation after the fact, and we will not guess in advance about the Turkish one.

[donavi49]

Well, so far TORM2 has not knocked anyone down with proofs, but TOR-M2KM with proofs has been burned. Moreover, the UAV led him while he stood in position and turned the radar.

[Sands Careers General]

Without a trained crew, in the garage, it's just a pile of iron.
They kicked a dead lion and rejoice.
Doubtful achievement.

[huntsman650]

Any zrk has a dead zone)

[Sands Careers General]

What the hell is a dead zone? The car is in the garage. There is nobody there.
Purely like the Sumerians. They blew up a BMD on a pedestal. This is a monument to the fallen paratroopers.
And they rejoice at their vile trick, they say, the Muscovites won.

By the way, the BMD was repaired, the monument was restored.

[Zaurbek]

1. A Turkish AWACS plane flew along the borders
2. Azerbaijan had all the intelligence available to the Turks.
3. How many Bayraktars did Thor pasture?
4. Was there a radar view (external) for the torus? or did he shine on his own?
5. And yes, staff training.
6. Both Syria and Libya have shown that the same Shells knock everything down, and they themselves are destroyed during transportation or in a discharged state.

[donavi49]

By the way, in the meantime, the Arcadag of the Desert held an epic parade, where newcomers appeared:
TV2 - of course, the first show in Turkmenistan, previously only rumors

Serbian armored cars Lazar - they talked about them in the spring, as a possible purchase, and now they are rolling in the parade

Brand new Canadian Incas

Typhoon

M346

[donavi49]

There was also a naval parade.
The main flagship of the Caspian Sea, the most advanced corvette in the region.

Large PSKR series 2, with reinforced armament, 2 anti-ship missiles / KR Teseo-Otomat and SAMSimbad (a la Gibka la-france).

Light PSKR are also re-equipped with the SyKeler anti-ship missile system for a 30 km range with a profile of 3 meters above the wave level.

Well, Lightning is still alive.

[Karabin]

Of course, we would not like to see such weapons systems, shall we say, be used with hot heads to strike at Ukraine's own citizens.

And about Donetsk citizens of the Russian Federation Peskov said nothing. Either he does not know about the issuance of passports, or excludes the use of weapons systems against citizens of the Russian Federation.

[jovanni]

Peskov: Russia opposes the use of Turkish weapons in Donbass

Yeah. But where are these performances? The guarantor there seems to be in Sochi and did not raise such a topic. Well, so that Erdogan's friend does not inadvertently offend. Better to talk for covid ...

[Sands Careers General]

The presidential press secretary said that Moscow opposes the use of Turkish weapons in the Donbass, where the Armed Forces of Ukraine can use them against the DPR and LPR servicemen.

Peskov rather did not declare, but warned who knows. If you use it, we will knock it down.

And they will shoot down.

[Ashes of Claes]

because the Ukrainian military can use Turkish weapons to strike at the people's republics of Donbass. This was stated by the press secretary of the President of Russia Dmitry Peskov.

Peskov seems to avoid using the term "republics", doesn't he:

(...) Ukraine is a country that has internal conflicts in the South-East.

[Sands Careers General]

This is called political trolling. Have you heard about this?

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: General of the Sand Quarries

This is called political trolling. Have you heard about this?

What the fuck is trolling? What is it? In the fact that the Russian Federation considers the "republics" to be the territory of Ukraine, and the fuss around them - its internal conflict? Who is he trolling in this case? Popok tia Zyablitseva and PiKa? Well, I congratulate them - the authorities keep them "for idiots in the old Polish preference."

[Sands Careers General]

What is this flow of subconsciousness?

[Radical]

Quote: PiK

Quote: Gardamir

unaware of the hidden levers of diplomacy.

I will not talk about 20 years. the last seven years are enough to see where these levers are pointing.

Judge superficially, like an ukro-Indian Leader - by tomatoes ...

Do you know what the outstanding Soviet diplomat Gromyko was called in the West?

Let me remind you - "Mister NO"

So, the same West, after ten years, calls Lavrov similarly - " Minister NO"

Foreign Policy (US): "Minister No" comes to his favorite territory at the UN

23.09.2021

Robbie Gramer, Amy Mackinnon, Colum Lynch

In late 2003, then-UN Secretary General Kofi Annan tried to ban smoking at headquarters in New York. Most experienced diplomats just rolled their eyes and complained, but one decided to resist.

Sergei Lavrov, then Russia's ambassador to the UN, lashed out at Annan and proudly violated the ban, continuing to parade inside the walls of the headquarters. “The UN building belongs to all member countries, and the secretary general is just a hired manager,” he said. Experienced diplomats then considered that this was the whole Lavrov - his harsh and sarcastic approach later he would show at the head of Russian diplomacy.

This week Lavrov will return to his native land, most likely in order to prick the United States and its Western allies in his address to the UN General Assembly.

Yes, of course - why not "talk" in a friendly way with these colleagues at the headquarters, and eat bulls - all the same, they will not be fined, and HIS Foreign Minister of the Russian Federation will not be imprisoned for 15 days. And his daughter will not be arrested, because she is already their citizen, maybe later Mashka Kalinka will be replaced, and then you see dad too ... at his current post. So who are the agents of the State Department, CIA, NSA, DIA, and other "humanitarian" organizations? A? Putriots, go ahead - refute. Can the list fit the children of all those guardians of the people who have dug in the West, under the wing of the above departments? And then, probably, they will come to replace the dads and mothers, to feed, and control you ....

[teptyar]

there is nothing to cover. Patriots. Children over the hill, assets too. Rolexa in her arms, ass in Mercedes

[Baron pardus]

Hand face. How long can you "Express Concern" to your "partners"? Let's put the question like this. How would Great Britain react if the Irish Republican Army used SOVIET weapons? Let's put the question like this. How would the United States react if Russian weapons began to enter the "Independent Zone of Antifa"?
Your "objections" and "concerns." use in the outhouse. "Objections and concerns" do not stand for the ink they are written with, and are an EMPTY concussion if they are not supported by anything. Russians are killed with Turkish weapons, and you are selling the latest air defense systems to Turkey ... Money is more important than the blood of your people. Well done, damn it. And do not be surprised why no one wants to do business with you and why Communist China does not want to sign any defense treaties with you.

[Radical]

Quote: Teptyar

there is nothing to cover. Patriots. Children over the hill, assets too. Rolexa in her arms, ass in Mercedes

Yeah, and the citizens also think so -
https://zen.yandex.ru/media/bycar/net-strany-dlia-starikov-60f30a4acf9db26dda89449d

[VTR-295]

Ukraine is a country that has internal conflicts in the South-East.

So what does Russia have to do with this conflict?

[pomor23]

Well, we already have - "Baba Yaga against", "Leo against", "Vikings against aliens", Alien against Predator ", etc. Maybe somehow tougher, huh?)))

[p0pulivox]

Quote: PiK

Quote: OrangeBigg

Well, why is this strange statement?

And to the meeting between Putin and Erdogan

It is in our power to put Turkey in such conditions that they demanded that Kiev not even try to use Turkish-made weapons in the Donbass.
In the same way as happened with the loudly sensational American "Darts", which are stored in warehouses somewhere in the vicinity of Lviv ...

Well, strain yourself with the whole "PIK group" and put Turkey in "such conditions"what are you waiting for ???
Or is everything possible only on the couch on the Internet ?!