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The Ministry of Defense confirmed the second death of a serviceman in two days in a military unit of the Central Military District

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The Ministry of Defense has confirmed the death of a serviceman for the second time in two days in one of the military units of the Central Military District. On this fact, a check has begun.

In a military unit located in the village of Svobodny near Nizhniy Tagil, a joint check of the military prosecutor's office and law enforcement agencies has begun on the death of a conscript. According to preliminary information, a 19-year-old conscript soldier, called up from Penza, committed suicide before joining the squad.

According to the local press, the soldier served as a cook, at five in the morning he went behind the tent, where he committed suicide, no details are given. It is alleged that a submachine gun was allegedly found nearby. On this fact, a check has begun.

The command of the Yekaterinburg garrison, together with law enforcement agencies, is checking the death of a serviceman

- leads RIA News message of the Ministry of Defense.

It is emphasized that this is the second death of a serviceman in this unit over the past two days. On September 28, a conscript soldier Ivan Katlinskikh was found dead in a forest. It is stated that during the exercises of the Strategic Missile Forces, the soldier deviated from the route and got lost. A search for the soldier was organized, his body was found under a power transmission line, the preliminary cause of death was electric shock and a fall from a height.
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  1. bubalik
    bubalik 29 September 2021 14: 40
    +3
    deviated from the route and got lost

    electric shock and fall from height
    ,,, they write fairy tales.
    1. Alex Nevs
      Alex Nevs 29 September 2021 14: 45
      .
      Probably the first years.
      1. Volodin
        Volodin 29 September 2021 14: 46
        +28
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        Probably the first years.

        Well, if conscripts, then who else ... They serve for a year
        1. frruc
          frruc 29 September 2021 16: 34
          +1
          The Ministry of Defense has confirmed the death of a serviceman for the second time in two days in one of the military units of the Central Military District. On this fact, a check has begun.

          Such conscripts have no confidence, they are not adapted to anything. You can't put an officer behind every officer as an overseer. Even to perform elementary tasks, you need to instruct to tears, under the signature. It is a pity, of course, for the parents' grief.
          1. Lara Croft
            Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 04
            +2
            Quote: frruc
            Such conscripts have no confidence, they are not adapted to anything.

            Well, officers and generals do not refuse salaries and bonuses because of the "poor quality" of the recruit, otherwise let them quit ....
            It is a pity, of course, for the parents of grief.

            Now people with stripes will arrive and all the officers will immediately begin to show sensitivity ...
            This is how it turns out, the people pay for the maintenance of the platoon commander, deputy. com. companies for educational work, com. company, military psychologist military unit, early. military police of the garrison, and as a result:
            electric shock and fall from height

            They will find the guilty commanders with a "wolf ticket" for civilian life without a pension or for bunks, maybe after that the commanders will begin to do their job ... well, if they don't want to get out of the army in the ass ...
            Parents did not raise their child so that he would perish in the army ...
            1. carstorm 11
              carstorm 11 30 September 2021 01: 04
              +2
              As if there are fewer of them dying in civilian life. People are dying. It happens. Stupidity, negligence. Yes, hundreds of reasons. In the army, unlike ordinary life, there is always someone who is to blame. In the case of those who get lost, they will get rid of the battalion commander in full. If not higher. About crossbow so this is generally the worst. You can sit down. Himself went through this at one time. The girl threw it all. He sat down, the machine gun to the chin and bang. The picture before my eyes is still like yesterday.
              1. Lara Croft
                Lara Croft 30 September 2021 07: 23
                +3
                Quote: carstorm 11
                As if there are fewer of them dying in civilian life. People are dying. It happens.

                Are you ready to say this to the parents of the victims? After such words, I would immediately cut my throat ...
                In the case of those who get lost, they will get rid of the battalion commander in full. If not higher.

                Does it make it easier for parents? The military salary was raised several times and the pensions of military pensioners, and they treated a soldier like a cattle, and they still treat ...
                In the IDF, for example, for hazing, they can disband the entire unit ...
                The girl threw it all. He sat down, the machine gun to the chin and bang. The picture before my eyes is still like yesterday.

                I do not approve ..., from the moment of taking the oath, your skin belongs to the people for which you should and be ready to die, and not any particular girl ...
                1. carstorm 11
                  carstorm 11 30 September 2021 08: 23
                  +2
                  Of course I won't. And he didn’t. You just somehow forget the fact that responsibility is one thing and human stupidity is another. Climbed onto the power line ... What kind of cattle? What are you talking about? Do we need to drive them by the handles? Are they in the army or where? The officer's fault is always there. But there is not and will not be such that there are no accidents or death due to stupidity. That is life. And it won't be easier for parents if their child gets hit by a car or swallows pills from unhappy love in civilian life. Something tells me that there are many times more of them outside the army.
            2. frruc
              frruc 30 September 2021 09: 11
              -1
              Parents did not raise their child so that he would perish in the army ...

              In general, I am opposed to such a contingent being drafted into the army (conscripts), and more broadly to involve them in alternative service (for example, washing floors and taking out ships in hospital wards). But even there they will find adventure on their ass. Many simply deliberately evade any service (especially conscripts in capital and large cities). What to do? Limit their choice of employment (public service) and "milk" their parents for their unfulfilled civic duty.
              They will find the guilty commanders with a "wolf ticket" for civilian life without a pension or for bunks, maybe after that the commanders will begin to do their job ... well, if they don't want to get out of the army in the ass ...

              I repeat once again, you cannot put a beholder behind everyone. Everyone must fulfill their responsibilities. I came across such "soldiers", they threatened me with a knife. It would be right, I would have sentenced this without hesitation.
      2. vadivm59
        vadivm59 29 September 2021 14: 56
        +1
        conscripts are all the same age. then "half a year"
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 29 September 2021 15: 04
          +9
          Quote: vadivm59
          six months "

          Whoever they are ...
          It's strange that the cook. Usually these guys have fewer problems in the service than others. There will certainly be a check, two deaths ... Parents - what a grief.
          1. garrett
            garrett 29 September 2021 16: 14
            +1
            It's strange that the cook. Usually these guys have fewer problems in the service than others.

            In peacetime, cooks and stokers are the most difficult military profession.
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 29 September 2021 16: 52
            +2
            1) the unit commander is no longer the unit commander-100% .. and the rest of the unit stock up on petroleum jelly on an industrial scale
      3. Terenin
        Terenin 29 September 2021 15: 54
        +4
        Quote: Alex Nevs
        Probably the first years.

        It’s more stupid to hear that a conscript soldier is in his fifth year of service ...
        Condolences to parents.
      4. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 29 September 2021 16: 23
        0
        As far as I am in the subject, now there are no others.
    2. nnm
      nnm 29 September 2021 14: 47
      +3
      Why do you think so? It seems to me that without reading the materials of the case, one should not be so categorical.
      1. Terenin
        Terenin 29 September 2021 15: 56
        +2
        Quote: nnm
        Why do you think so? It seems to me that without reading the materials of the case, one should not be so categorical.

        According to the results of the investigation, a completely different conversation
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 08
        -2
        Quote: nnm
        It seems to me that without reading the materials of the case, one should not be so categorical.

        Do you think the conscripts beat half of the unit, incl. officers and contract soldiers, and then, out of remorse, climbed onto power lines? These are the monsters ...
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 30 September 2021 01: 11
          +1
          On power lines, he climbed 99 percent to see from a height. When getting lost this is the usual solution.
    3. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 29 September 2021 14: 48
      +8
      I went for mushrooms in Murmansk, 55 km on the road to Serebryanka. It is simply impossible to get lost there, from the word at all. But one mushroom picker was able to, died of hypothermia. After a couple of years, only bones were found. Do you know your way around the forest? Especially in the taiga.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 29 September 2021 15: 04
        +12
        What does the taiga have to do with it? Yesterday they wrote that he left for the SOCH, the orientation was sent out.
        Today, that he deviated from the patrol route, was he alone on patrol?
        The twenty-year-old soldier left his unit without permission on the morning of September 28. I took with me a shortened AKS-74U collapsible Kalashnikov assault rifle and a bayonet knife. According to other sources, the escape was made the day before, and on the morning of September 28, the soldiers were missed.

        Neither the squad leader nor the platoon commander know where their subordinates are?
        1. askort154
          askort154 29 September 2021 15: 46
          0
          bubalik Neither the squad leader nor the platoon commander know where their subordinates are?

          But they cannot look into the "soul" of a soldier. Even in Soviet times,
          suicide in the army was not uncommon. What is 17 -18 years old, this is the period of the initial formation of a man. The psyche is still unstable, he perceives every insult as a tragedy. The most "cruel offense" - the girl promised to wait, but could not. The numbers of the "suicides" were kept secret. We had such a "bright" case at our school. Guy
          athlete, height over 180, was fond of - then fashionable "bodybuilding". Early in the morning before "getting up", he hanged himself on the horizontal bar of the sports ground. It turned out that I received a letter - his girlfriend already has another boyfriend.
          1. Ryazan87
            Ryazan87 29 September 2021 16: 51
            +6
            Even in Soviet times, suicide in the army was not uncommon.

            Put it mildly. Just the scourge of the army was:
            "... The Armed Forces of the USSR registered 1573 suicides and attempted suicides (+ 13,1%), a significant increase in them occurred among young soldiers and sailors (+ 43%). Among the suicides were 279 officers and 200 military servicemen. Every fourth the case of suicide occurred due to a painful condition (mostly mental), every third - due to family troubles. "
            From the report of the Chief Military Prosecutor of the USSR A.G. Gorny "On the state of legality in the Armed Forces of the USSR and the work of the military prosecutor's office in 1971".
            This is in one year. Quite prosperous, Afgan is still far away, peace and blessing.
            1. Hiller
              Hiller 29 September 2021 20: 37
              +2
              I remember the vyskyvanie Commander-in-Chief of the GSVG: "at the end of the past year, we buried the battalion and put the battalion" (((
          2. Barberry25
            Barberry25 29 September 2021 16: 54
            +1
            unfortunately .. there are such "survivors" in every call
        2. Terenin
          Terenin 29 September 2021 15: 57
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          Neither the squad leader nor the platoon commander know where their subordinates are?

          It turned out just like that
        3. Sergey Averchenkov
          Sergey Averchenkov 29 September 2021 16: 32
          -1
          And besides, the taiga ... There is such a proverb - the law of the taiga. This means that we do not care about the central government, we are here ourselves with a mustache. And believe me, it works. Not only one government, that the USSR, especially since the current one does not have the resources of not wanting to climb into this jungle. Leaving alone is the most sensible decision, they do it.
        4. Lara Croft
          Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 14
          -2
          Quote: bubalik
          Neither the squad leader nor the platoon commander know where their subordinates are?

          Well, in our country, for example, they first looked for a "skier" on their own, and then only "signaled", but so that with weapons, especially in the Strategic Missile Forces (a related office), they usually select combat units by psychotype ....
      2. Camrad
        Camrad 29 September 2021 22: 13
        +1
        I went to pick mushrooms in Murmansk, 55 km on the road to Serebryanka. It is simply impossible to get lost there, from the word at all. But one mushroom picker could, died of hypothermia. After a couple of years, only bones were found.


        Countryman, it's very strange to read this. Every year on Kola, more than a dozen mushroom pickers roam with very serious consequences. And especially at Serebryanka. It is no coincidence, according to legends, that the tsarist penal servitude in Gremikha was practically not guarded, no matter how many people ran, no one reached civilization.
        1. isv000
          isv000 29 September 2021 23: 40
          +2
          Quote: Comrad
          Every year on Kola, more than a dozen mushroom pickers roam with very serious consequences. And especially at Serebryanka.

          Somehow I was picking mushrooms in those parts, I hear - a hum, climbed onto a huge boulder - a herd of deer is moving in my direction - I just realized that there are enough mushrooms for me, it's time to go home ... wink
    4. vadivm59
      vadivm59 29 September 2021 15: 01
      +4
      Have you seen many deaths of soldiers in the army? so categorically assert. For two years of service in the SA, I saw two people, they burned down in the barracks, along with her, out of their own stupidity. and no fairy tales.
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 29 September 2021 15: 06
        0
        ,,, I saw, that's exactly what is stupid, but not like that. At least they adhered to the official version.
        1. Terenin
          Terenin 29 September 2021 15: 59
          +2
          Quote: bubalik
          At least they adhered to the official version.

          You can't stick to only one in the versions. This error. There should be many versions of them in order to work out the correct
      2. Sergey Averchenkov
        Sergey Averchenkov 29 September 2021 16: 37
        +1
        Ten two or three, I did not count - about. But this is Afghan ...
      3. polar fox
        polar fox 29 September 2021 20: 31
        0
        Quote: vadivm59
        Have you seen many deaths of soldiers in the army?

        In the 90s, a fighter with AKSU-74 put a bullet in his head after the guard ... the whole body of ZIL was in the brains and blood ... I received a letter ...
      4. Xnumx vis
        Xnumx vis 29 September 2021 20: 39
        +1
        Quote: vadivm59
        Have you seen many deaths of soldiers in the army?

        It was less than a month before the DMB hanged himself with a padlock. a platoon from a neighboring company. We were in training together, we were friends .. I left the unit and that's it. The whole battalion was looking for him in the forest. All night long . Found in the morning hanging on a tree km from the location of the company .. What, why, why? Recently he has been complaining of a headache. I was going home, the album, the form, everything was as it should be. And so ..
    5. Finches
      Finches 29 September 2021 15: 08
      +7
      All right, the commander will be removed and fired without severance pay! I don’t remember that soldiers were killed by electric current under power lines, but when the train was loading there were figures who climbed onto the roof of the car and fell under the discharge from the overhead wire. And the cook who shot himself is generally nonsense!
      1. Barberry25
        Barberry25 29 September 2021 16: 55
        +2
        It's another matter ... but are the victims connected?
        1. Finches
          Finches 29 September 2021 17: 04
          0
          I also thought about it!
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 29 September 2021 17: 09
            -1
            I even have the opinion that the young man was sent to the nearest village, and he got lost and died, and the second was either involved in the "sent", or should be accused of this .. as a result, he got scared and got drunk ... but maybe just a coincidence..
            1. Finches
              Finches 29 September 2021 17: 14
              +3
              Investigators, I think, will sort it out and punish just anyone!
              1. Barberry25
                Barberry25 29 September 2021 17: 36
                0
                in general, as they say .. keep our fists
    6. anjey
      anjey 29 September 2021 15: 59
      +2
      Rather, yes, when the second corpse appeared, you don't have to be Agatha Christie, such coincidences are definitely not accidental.
    7. Sergey Averchenkov
      Sergey Averchenkov 29 September 2021 16: 20
      +3
      Why fairy tales? Your arguments. I can say that too - you are gay. But I have no arguments.
    8. Piramidon
      Piramidon 29 September 2021 17: 18
      -4
      Quote: bubalik
      ,,, they write fairy tales.

      Write "true" if you are so smart and you know something. Or just grunt something hunting?
      1. bubalik
        bubalik 29 September 2021 17: 24
        +5
        ,,, ducks quack, and I expressed my opinion in the forum, for which it was created.
        Poke your friends, dear, if you have them.
        1. Piramidon
          Piramidon 29 September 2021 17: 27
          0
          Quote: bubalik
          I expressed my opinion

          You have expressed not an opinion, but a statement. Not confirming it in any way.
  2. GUARD
    GUARD 29 September 2021 14: 41
    +14
    Tragic, sad. It is not worse when our children die before us, parents. Deep condolences to the family. Very sorry.
  3. pyagomail.ru
    pyagomail.ru 29 September 2021 14: 42
    +7
    the soldier served as a cook, at five in the morning he went behind the tent, where he committed suicide, no details are given, but a submachine gun was found next to the body.

    It’s somehow dull: as a rule, cooks do not go with machine guns, and, probably, one can determine whether he was shot or was shot.
    It is emphasized that this is the second death of a serviceman in this unit over the past two days. On September 28, a conscript soldier Ivan Katlinskikh was found dead in a forest. It is stated that during the exercises of the Strategic Missile Forces, the soldier deviated from the route and got lost. A search for the soldier was organized, his body was found under a power transmission line, the preliminary cause of death was electric shock and a fall from a height.
    - it is also unclear: was he performing some separate task, that he was walking alone? And climbed onto the power transmission line, not knowing that there was a current? We need to check part of it.
    1. nnm
      nnm 29 September 2021 14: 53
      +14
      This is how the part is checked. In fact, of course, there are many such ridiculous deaths.
      From what happened during the service: death from injury by shrapnel of an IDLE cartridge due to his marriage. Moreover, the fighter was in full gear and armor, a sphere. Two best friends on the watchtowers jokingly pointed machine guns at each other, parsing ammunition for the charger, drunken attempt to stop KamAZ by going out to cut him with the command "stop, one, two", etc.
      In the first case, if there is a suicide, there will be traces of gunpowder on his hands, in the second - having lost his way, he could well have climbed to look around the power line. Look how many people who like to ride the electric trains die every year. There is always a factor of thoughtlessness ...
      But only by seeing the materials of the case, one can draw conclusions.

      The only bad thing is that all this will not return young children to their parents and loved ones. There is nothing worse than surviving the death of your child.
      1. Adrey
        Adrey 30 September 2021 08: 46
        +4
        That was exactly how it looked. The guy was on the third exit into the "field". He liked the army. He served in the neighboring area. At dusk, he bludanul "in three pines", went to the power transmission line and waved 18 km along it at night. Apparently I really wanted to climb onto the support to get my bearings (saw the glow). Shibanulo so that how much it flew off, then the burning one ran in shock (they found it 150 meters from the support. Under the support there was a pea jacket and a machine gun).
        Unfortunately, I know from my parents.
    2. Sergey M. Karasev
      Sergey M. Karasev 29 September 2021 17: 24
      0
      We need to check part of it.

      That's it! Something bad is clearly going on there ...
  4. isv000
    isv000 29 September 2021 14: 46
    +8
    the soldier served as a cook, at five in the morning he went behind the tent, where he committed suicide, no details are given, but a submachine gun was found next to the body.

    The cook walks with a machine gun. Tents. Even if this is an exercise, then there should be no cartridges, and the cook should make porridge at five in the morning, and not run around the camp with a machine gun. There, by the way, another one got lost - got lost in the forest and ... died under a power line ... from an electric shock, and right next to it! - the machine gun was lying around. And all would be "nothing", but from which such route could a soldier-missile deviate? That responsible face that sells this to us is clearly a ram fool , or keeps us for such ... negative
    1. t-12
      t-12 29 September 2021 15: 05
      +3
      from which such route could a rocket soldier deviate?

      Sent somewhere as a messenger. And he got lost. I decided to climb onto the power line support, look around from above. Well, and an electric shock.
    2. Barberry25
      Barberry25 29 September 2021 16: 57
      0
      if there was a machine gun, then there was a bayonet-knife ... it is still unclear how he committed suicide ... maybe he hanged himself
  5. bar
    bar 29 September 2021 14: 52
    +1
    On this fact, a check has begun.

    Verification must be carried out on at least two facts. Something is wrong with this military unit. Two corpses in a row is too much
  6. taiga2018
    taiga2018 29 September 2021 14: 56
    +2
    In our unit, two were also killed, but both were drunk, maybe there is something similar here ...
  7. Alex66
    Alex66 29 September 2021 14: 58
    -2
    It is emphasized that this is the second death of a serviceman in this unit over the past two days.
    Are they covering their tracks?
  8. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 29 September 2021 15: 01
    +1
    ZATO Svobodny 42nd Tvgil missile division. 2 killed in one day?
    1. 2 Level Advisor
      2 Level Advisor 29 September 2021 15: 23
      +1
      more and more interesting - they write that military unit 93401, but it was disbanded in 2007 ..
  9. O. Bender
    O. Bender 29 September 2021 15: 19
    +2
    In Koktas, when unloading a train, two soldiers flooded onto parallel tracks, climbed onto the roof of the car. As a result, two corpses, a defeat from the contact network. The flash was seen by many, if I am not mistaken, the Samara brigade. At least every day in the morning we have instructions. At least we have it.
  10. honda
    honda 29 September 2021 15: 38
    0
    In the press of Yekaterinburg they write, in the military unit they said, they left to collect brushwood ..... climbed onto the power line with aksu? There are more questions than answers.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 September 2021 16: 11
      +2
      The very first information was in our local sources that he was absent from the evening check and he was missed. Then they began to write in the press that he lagged behind the platoon in the exercises and got lost (!). The third scribble - he was sent for brushwood for the stove (!!!). Yeah, with a machine gun and a bayonet knife. IMHO, the first infa is most likely the most correct. And this speaks of unauthorized absence.
      1. nnm
        nnm 29 September 2021 16: 18
        +3
        And it also suggests that the command of the unit is going to ensure that his relatives receive an insurance payment of 120 SLM and the right to social benefits, and not just zinc.
        Therefore, you should not immediately draw conclusions.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 29 September 2021 16: 28
          +1
          It may very well be .... Then, in this case, there is a high probability that shoulder straps will fly
          1. Barberry25
            Barberry25 29 September 2021 16: 58
            +1
            shoulder straps in the event of the death of a soldier fly in ANY case ... and here, along the way, the unit commander will fly
          2. nnm
            nnm 29 September 2021 17: 31
            -1
            Unfortunately yes
            1. Lara Croft
              Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 28
              +3
              Quote: nnm
              Unfortunately yes

              Why "Unfortunately? Are conscripts for you a consumable?
        2. isv000
          isv000 29 September 2021 23: 44
          0
          Quote: nnm
          And it also suggests that the command of the unit is going to ensure that his relatives receive an insurance payment of 120 SLM and the right to social benefits, and not just zinc.
          Therefore, you should not immediately draw conclusions.

          Taking off my hat... hi
      2. Lara Croft
        Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 37
        0
        Quote: Nexcom
        The very first information was in our local sources that he was absent from the evening check and he was missed.

        In the logbook of the l / s of the company, it is noted in real time which of the soldiers, where is located and outside of it and the officer on duty is responsible for this, if the company on duty is responsible for this, if the absence was found out only at the evening check, then the officer on duty will be responsible (with -nt, jr.s-nt) ....
        Then they began to write in the press that he lagged behind the platoon in the exercises and got lost (!).

        If he was only in the "rear outpost" on the march, and where the platoon commander was, he must control his unit all the time, then the leekha (KV) is to blame ...
        The third scribble - he was sent for brushwood for the stove (!!!). Yeah, with a machine gun and a bayonet knife.

        What are you surprised, during a field exit, not only will you walk everywhere with AK, but also sleep with SVD, personal weapons can be transferred, according to the Charter, only to the immediate commander, what will he do with you after such a proposal ...
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 30 September 2021 06: 06
          0
          Why are you surprised, during a field trip, not only with AK you will walk everywhere


          It was not written about the field exit. And about the field exit, I know - in training we were constantly driven to the training ground in full gear, and there were night throws. I say the same - contradictory information in the media, who writes in what way.
  11. wow
    wow 29 September 2021 16: 07
    -6
    It's so unbearably difficult to be without a mother for a year, a serious reason for suicide.
    1. nnm
      nnm 29 September 2021 16: 23
      +3
      There is no need to judge people, especially after their death. Everyone has a different threshold of moral and psychological stability. And instead of condemning that he could not live without a "mother" (which, by the way, will now bury her son), we would ask a question about the real reasons, about the illness of society, which, instead of supporting a person, helping him, often, presses, goes over the heads of the weaker ...
    2. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 41
      0
      Quote: yo-mine
      It's so unbearably difficult to be without a mother for a year, a serious reason for suicide.

      in the normal part, there is usually no time to remember the mother ...
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 30 September 2021 06: 08
        +1
        that's for sure - there are two thoughts - to eat and sleep, rest after constant exertion.
  12. Victorio
    Victorio 29 September 2021 16: 13
    +1
    his body was found under the power line, the preliminary cause of death - electric shock and fall from a height.
    ===
    Some kind of stupidity, climbed onto the power line !? Is it possible that the current army is in such hellish conditions that modern youth are not able to withstand even a year of service ?!

    Yes, there was hazing, and disbat, and death. a classmate died while unloading a covered wagon with coal. opened the doors, standing opposite, she, when rolling, flew off the guides, fell crushing him along with the falling load. violated TB and paid with his life.
  13. Kaw
    Kaw 29 September 2021 16: 16
    0
    Witness?
  14. Avior
    Avior 29 September 2021 16: 29
    +3
    ... at five in the morning he went behind the tent, where he committed suicide

    Where did he enter the outfit with a machine gun at five in the morning?
    Yes, and a cook.
    In the army, something has changed if the outfit is interceded at five in the morning. I can't remember anything like that.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 29 September 2021 16: 38
      0
      About that and speech - a lot of muddy information
    2. V means B
      V means B 29 September 2021 19: 15
      -2
      When you really need it, even an article in the charter will be found corresponding to it.
      1. isv000
        isv000 29 September 2021 23: 50
        0
        Quote: V is for B
        When you really need it, even an article in the charter will be found corresponding to it.

        It is not good to scoff when two young men lie on the ground. And there is no need to look for the guilty, they are on the surface - fathers-commanders, they are entrusted with the lives of their subordinates, and if they die in peacetime, then this is their oversight ... hi
        1. V means B
          V means B 30 September 2021 19: 39
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          And I did not think to mock. I just mean that when comrades generals start to burn, all sorts of "miracles" happen.
  15. Esaul
    Esaul 29 September 2021 18: 23
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    Apparently these deaths are somehow connected, perhaps the second was simply gagged, tk. could have blabbed something
  16. V means B
    V means B 29 September 2021 19: 09
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    It is strange that the news was only published today request
  17. V means B
    V means B 29 September 2021 19: 14
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    One got lost, the other, the cook, shot himself, as they say, that there is no clear, absolutely clear and transparent story (sarcasm). And in general, we have everything in order in the troops, and in terms of non-regulation, etc. etc.
  18. Freedim
    Freedim 29 September 2021 21: 18
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    It was and will be .. Something out of negligence, something out of incompetence, something out of stupidity .. DMB-88 .. Free (Amur region) .. in 2 years - officially 7 corpses .. Four tumbled off the board "zilka ", two fell asleep in the boiler room - the boiler blasted ... An electrician of the 4th (!) category was found on the roof of the garage, hanging like a mattress on" zero "(and what? .. so that the" grandfather "crawled on the belly? .. never ) .. How many cases of "bullying" - history is silent.
    shl. The soldier's mothers just went crazy. The tribe left for a year. So the daughter-in-law (his mother) drove to him 4 times .. For the oath, for the DR, for the New Year, due to illness ... The scribe just .. Let the guys become men. This is why they thought up the "army" to tear off the undergrowths from their mother's boobs .. to teach them how to survive on their own ... If I didn’t survive in the army, it would mean that I would have died in civilian life. It is not for nothing that "armeyka" is called the school of life.
    1. Lara Croft
      Lara Croft 29 September 2021 22: 48
      +1
      Quote: FreeDIM
      If he did not survive in the army, it means he would have died in civilian life. It is not for nothing that "armeyka" is called the school of life.

      Yes, the best years of my life, I never laughed so much anywhere ...
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 30 September 2021 09: 31
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        here is the link to the interview. I ask you not to consider it as an attempt to escalate the situation.
        this is our Ural media write.

        https://www.e1.ru/text/incidents/2021/09/30/70164599/
    2. Alex Justice
      Alex Justice 30 September 2021 19: 10
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      Many are forced into the army. Someone benefits from the army, some do not. The army must be voluntary.
  19. Reserve buildbat
    Reserve buildbat 2 October 2021 15: 27
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    "Shock and fall from a height" ... In our battalion, a couple of soldiers deserted, I don't remember whether they caught one or not, but the second was found under the power line. It was useful to chop up the wires, hand them over to non-ferrous metals. Then they identified the charred carcass. So anything can be.