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Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation

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Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation

Taking into account last year's rates, it will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation. Although the task of import substitution is considered one of the highest priorities for her.


This was reported by the press service of the state concern "Ukroboronprom".

The current situation with the replacement of Russian components at the enterprises of the defense-industrial complex of the concern was announced during the round table "Import substitution: the potential for the development of domestic production and strengthening the independence of the state."

Ukroboronprom claims that the total number of items that have not yet been replaced by analogs of Russian components is about three thousand units. In particular, we are talking about micro- and radio electronics, bearings, electrical equipment, instrumentation, special materials and much more. The Ukrainian defense industry depends on the supply of these components.

The journalists of the Ukrainian edition of Defense Express have serious doubts about this figure. The fact is that, according to other data, voiced by the Procurement Director of the Ukroboronprom concern during a round table, in the period from 2014 to 2020 in Ukraine, only six thousand positions of Russian components out of 12 thousand were replaced. However, Ukrainian analysts and journalists generally agree with the fact that it takes years for the complete import substitution of Russian components.
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  1. Finches
    Finches 28 September 2021 12: 10
    +6
    It's not a brain change, conscience, honor and dignity to sell overnight!
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2021 12: 23
      0
      Quote: Finches
      It's not a brain change, conscience, honor and dignity to sell overnight!

      What is sold, there is no return.
      1. Peak
        Peak 28 September 2021 12: 53
        -1
        Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation

        The rarest coincidence
        (screen from VO page), and just in the subject yes !



        So they need years to replace the Soviet / Russian what , and for joining NATO, with the complete transition of everything and everything to their standards - they are ready even now fellow .

        Logic - I'm freaking out laughing yes
        1. Grandfather
          Grandfather 28 September 2021 12: 57
          -3
          but we have a different type .. request
          1. Peak
            Peak 28 September 2021 13: 04
            -1
            Quote: PiK
            It means that they need years to replace the Soviet / Russian, but for joining NATO, with the complete transition of everything and everything to their standards, they are ready even now



            Quote: Dead Day
            but we have a different type ..


            I mean - we are also ready to join the bloc even nowbelay belay belay ??
            For we did not set ourselves the task of completely replacing "something with something" No.

            There are, of course, certain "problems" due to the breakdown of cooperation with the same Ukraine, but these are not issues that are critical to such an extent that - OH!
            1. URAL72
              URAL72 28 September 2021 13: 38
              -1
              There are, of course, certain "inconsistencies" due to the breakdown of cooperation with the same Ukraine, but these are not issues that are critical to such an extent. "

              Well, with the construction of frigates for the Black Sea Fleet, we really got into trouble, it took years to replace Ukrainian components and set up production at home. But Ukraine can quickly replace Russian components, because today the entire range of Ukroboronprom is reduced to a dozen other types of equipment and weapons. What is there to replace?
            2. Grandfather
              Grandfather 28 September 2021 14: 11
              -2
              Quote: PiK
              In the sense - are we also ready to join the bloc even now ???
              For we did not set ourselves the task of completely replacing "something with something"


              think about what you are writing .. no? okay, half the shelves..1e, what does NATO have to do with it? 2- do not remember (or do not know) how our own production "backfired": helicopter engines, ship engines, rocket components ... just to crow ...
              1. ja-ja-vw
                ja-ja-vw 28 September 2021 20: 54
                -1
                Quote: Dead Day
                2- do not remember (or do not know) how our own production "backfired":

                until 2014 (and even now something)
                - "Motor Sich" 95-300 (product 95, RDK-300, MS-400) for subsonic strategic cruise missiles such as Kh-55 and Kh-55SM, tactical aircraft Kh-59M, Kh-35 and ship 3M10 and 3M24.
                Until 2016, Motor Sich was supposed to supply 250-270 TVZ-117 and VK-2500 engines to the Russian Federation annually.
                -Cherkassk "Photopribor", Kiev "Arsenal" and Lviv "Lorta" guidance systems for tanks, aircraft and anti-aircraft missile systems.
                -Kharkiv Machine-Building Plant FED -drive-generators for engines on the Il-76 transport aircraft. In total, the production of basic modifications of the IL-76 requires products from about 20 Ukrainian enterprises.
                -hydraulic systems and brake parachutes for Su-27 (and modifications), Su-30 and Su-35 fighters, as well as components for the Su-34 fighter-bomber
                etc
                On August 28, 2014 Poroshenko issued decree No. 691/2014
        2. tihonmarine
          tihonmarine 28 September 2021 13: 34
          0
          Quote: PiK
          and for joining NATO, with the complete transition of everything and everything to their standards, they are ready even now.

          At the expense of someone else, they want to squeeze into "Natu", but there are no "suckers" there for a long time.
    2. RealPilot
      RealPilot 28 September 2021 14: 31
      +1
      They will need ETERNITY for complete replacement! Which is not enough ...
      The only way to survive for the military-industrial complex of Ukraine is to become a part of the military-industrial complex of Russia.
  2. Cowbra
    Cowbra 28 September 2021 12: 12
    +7
    The problem is that there is neither money nor personnel for this. Those who wanted and could work left for a long time.
    1. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2021 12: 30
      +2
      Quote: Cowbra
      The problem is that there is neither money nor personnel for this. Those who wanted and could work left for a long time.
      The moral of Ivan Krylov's fable "Quartet":
      And you, friends, no matter how you sit down,
      Everyone is not good at musicians.
  3. knn54
    knn54 28 September 2021 12: 12
    0
    - take into account last year's rates, it will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation.
    In Greece, I apologize, China has everything. Well, almost everything. In Ukraine, spare parts for ZILs (especially), Urals, Krazy are practically purchased from China.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 28 September 2021 12: 21
      -2
      Exactly.
      By the way, the article is "truncated".
      I popersya on ukrosayty to clarify. Yes, there was a round table on import substitution. Admitted that for complete import substitution in all industries it will take 10 years and how many billion hryvnias there are.
      And the article began with the fact that three An-178s, which are now being produced at the Antonov plant, will be produced without Russian components. Nothing was mentioned about foreigners ...
      1. Peak
        Peak 28 September 2021 13: 41
        -5
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I popersya on ukrosayty to clarify.

        "Ukrosite" sounds like - " I pops to adult sites repeat , so that ... in general, for another interest " yes laughing
      2. ja-ja-vw
        ja-ja-vw 28 September 2021 20: 49
        -1
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        And the article began with the fact that three An-178s, which are now being produced at the Antonov plant, will be produced without Russian components. Nothing was mentioned about foreigners ...

        well, Russian for Ukraine, even more so: IMPORT
    2. Nexcom
      Nexcom 28 September 2021 12: 24
      +2
      They threw the Chinese with the purchase of Motorsich. It is unlikely that the Chinese will help them in import substitution of Russian components.
      Kraz went bankrupt. if I do not confuse anything.
      1. Orange bigg
        Orange bigg 28 September 2021 13: 01
        +2
        Quote: Nexcom
        They threw the Chinese with the purchase of Motorsich. It is unlikely that the Chinese will help them in import substitution of Russian components.
        Kraz went bankrupt. if I do not confuse anything.


        For all this, thanks must be said to those who really rule Ukraine, namely, foreign protégés, for whom Ukraine is needed as a raw material colony, and not another competitor. This is their handiwork.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 28 September 2021 13: 02
          +2
          In general, the Sumerians themselves chose this path for their country by arranging a Maidan.
          1. tihonmarine
            tihonmarine 28 September 2021 13: 45
            +1
            Quote: Nexcom
            The Sumerians themselves chose this path for their country by arranging a Maidan.

            Probably not themselves, but someone advised.
            1. Nexcom
              Nexcom 28 September 2021 13: 52
              0
              it is well known who advised and helped arrange.
  4. Sasha from Uralmash
    Sasha from Uralmash 28 September 2021 12: 13
    +3
    And what, we still supply components, or through third parties, which is the same thing? Money does not smell!
    1. Azimuth
      Azimuth 28 September 2021 12: 31
      0
      God give them money. At least gas.
      1. cat Rusich
        cat Rusich 28 September 2021 22: 55
        +2
        Quote: Azimut
        God give them money. At least gas.
        Let them return first "Three rubles of Yanukovych".
        And gas in Ukraine is unnecessary - for the winter you can just go to work in "warm countries", and return in the spring ... to work in the gardens.
        The proposal is quite serious, write a statement to the housing office that in the period from October to May, you will not live in an apartment, so as not to pay for housing services, which you (a resident of Ukraine) will not consume. Then you leave to work in the EU or Russia ...
        hi
  5. Alexander 3
    Alexander 3 28 September 2021 12: 30
    0
    I think Airbass and other competitors of the aircraft industry are only happy and will make every effort to ensure that this problem is not solved.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 28 September 2021 12: 54
      +3
      Why should Airbas be afraid of Ukrainian litaks? They really can't finish them piece by piece, not to mention mass production. So there is no competition as such.

      Shl by the way the rights to the "Ukrainian" An-2 are now owned by Airbas
      1. Peak
        Peak 28 September 2021 14: 35
        +1
        Quote: Nexcom
        Shl by the way the rights to the "Ukrainian" An-2 are now owned by Airbas

        It is not known who is there and what owns (it is necessary to clarify), but the largest producer of the "corn plant" clone is China.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 28 September 2021 15: 02
          0
          This is not about cloning, but about the ownership of the original
      2. Gembyh124
        Gembyh124 28 September 2021 15: 33
        0
        I wonder why he surrendered to them?
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 28 September 2021 17: 30
          0
          Yes, who else would have known the outline, he surrendered to them ...
          Although the plane itself is quite versatile and cheap, does not require special care and special storage, to land almost anywhere, it is not for nothing that the Chinese still clone it - they have modernized it and use it under the Y-6 brand, if I am not mistaken about the marking. They and the Tu-16 under the brand name H-6 are still in use - they have re-engineered, modernized and fly at full speed.
  6. TermNachTer
    TermNachTer 28 September 2021 12: 31
    +2
    What kind of import substitution are we talking about if there are no orders?))) The last board was handed over in 2016 and since then, silence. How they are going to sell the An - 178 to the Peruvians, for which there is no type certificate and which in the process of import substitution has already doubled in price - there is a great mystery. It looks like tanks for Thailand)))
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 28 September 2021 13: 00
      +1
      How are they going to sell the An - 178 to the Peruvians,


      No way. The Peruvians just got on the money - they most likely will not see either the plane or their money.
      1. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 September 2021 17: 32
        0
        Well, you can't be so childishly naive, unless, of course, in their MO, someone did not take a good swag))))
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2021 13: 51
      0
      Quote: TermNachTER
      How are they going to sell the An - 178 to the Peruvians, for which there is no certificate

      As always, "vparivat" in Ukrainian.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 28 September 2021 17: 33
        +1
        It looks like they already sold it, if I'm not mistaken, then the Peruvians have already paid part of the funds - I read somewhere about this next scam
      2. TermNachTer
        TermNachTer 28 September 2021 17: 37
        0
        The interest of Banderland is clear, what is the benefit of the Peruvians? Not to mention that the airplane is very "so-so". I talked with the Motor Sich pilots, who communicated with Antonov's testers. Reviews about the airplane are strictly negative. It was made by inserting 3 m behind the center section. The apparatus has a strong rear centering even when empty. When loading, it is necessary to very carefully place the load in the compartment, at the slightest mistake it will grind with the tail of the runway and it is not known how this may end, even until the structure of the airframe is damaged.
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 28 September 2021 17: 50
          0
          I am aware of litaka problems. You are absolutely right in describing the jambs. They fly empty with plates laid near the cockpit frame - centering curve.
          And why did the Peruvians get in touch with the Sumerians - God knows them. Wrong question. Probably then, why did the Thais have contacted the Sumerian tanks, and the Iraqis - with the Sumerian armored personnel carriers.
          In both cases, there were many national untranslatable idiomatic sayings about the quality of Sumerian products. And for after-sales support - too.
  7. pyagomail.ru
    pyagomail.ru 28 September 2021 12: 31
    +1
    Do not substitute import - just close the factories - it will be cheaper.
    1. dzvero
      dzvero 28 September 2021 13: 44
      +1
      Alternatively, remove all non-kosher from the design. The Wright brothers flew an airplane ...
  8. kind
    kind 28 September 2021 12: 33
    +1
    Why does Ukraine need a defense industry ??? The USA gives Javelins and rubber boats, Europe will throw something up, and Canada will not deprive of maple syrup. Ukraine would not freeze now, what kind of defense industry is there.
    1. Xlor
      Xlor 28 September 2021 13: 53
      0
      Ukraine would not freeze now

      In order not to freeze, let them jump ...
    2. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 28 September 2021 13: 53
      0
      Quote: Good
      Ukraine would not freeze now, what kind of defense industry is there

      They will throw the slogan "Everyone to assemble the dung!" and will not freeze. Although it is a pity for the simple hard-working people.
      1. Nexcom
        Nexcom 28 September 2021 18: 00
        +1
        Just Ze and his shobla with the panstvo-deputies will definitely not freeze. And these figures deeply spit on ordinary Ukrainians. And ordinary Ukrainians themselves have long understood this. Suprun had already offered them to treat everything with gymnastics with air baths. I think that even now they will offer something like that.
  9. Artur Loginov
    Artur Loginov 28 September 2021 12: 41
    -4
    With Ukraine, everything is clear, but how are things with us?
    1. Orange bigg
      Orange bigg 28 September 2021 13: 11
      +1
      Quote: Artur Loginov
      With Ukraine, everything is clear, but how are things with us?


      Specifically, what are you interested in? Probably now the main task is to create your own analogue of the D-18T, the conditional PD-24 / PD-26, based on the technologies obtained during the development of the PD-35.
      ... Russia has completely eliminated dependence on Ukrainian components in the defense industry, and alternative suppliers of products have been found to replace partners from NATO. This was stated by Deputy Prime Minister Yuri Borisov at the Microelectronics-2020 forum in Yalta, where the largest manufacturers of radio-electronic products have gathered these days.

      “Every year we report to the Supreme Commander-in-Chief on the results of import substitution. As far as I understand, all the key points and dependence on the supplies of Ukrainian manufacturers have already been passed, we have replaced the main solutions with domestic developments. As for the replacement of NATO countries, the key positions here are secured, ”the Deputy Prime Minister said.

      https://m.tvzvezda.ru/news/20209291532-Mj3JL.html
  10. Sidor Amenpodestovich
    Sidor Amenpodestovich 28 September 2021 12: 44
    0
    Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation

    Light.
  11. Ros 56
    Ros 56 28 September 2021 12: 50
    0
    It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation

    I would specify, years of decades. I think it would be more correct or someone disagrees, justify. wassat
    1. Rusticolus
      Rusticolus 28 September 2021 13: 19
      0
      I think it will be more correct
      You have chosen the wrong scale. They have it not the usual linear, but logarithmically negative. Those. The more years they try to replace, the more years it takes to replace. lol
  12. svp67
    svp67 28 September 2021 12: 57
    0
    Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation
    I disagree. First of all, this requires money and a lot. And given the small volume of aircraft production in Ukraine, VERY LARGE
  13. CommanderDIVA
    CommanderDIVA 28 September 2021 13: 20
    +1
    Tank rollers for the T-72 were smuggled by the Ukrainians from Russia to their place, printed as something about the detention of the cargo of this contraband in the media
  14. rocket757
    rocket757 28 September 2021 13: 46
    0
    Ukroboronprom: It will take years for the Ukrainian defense industry to completely replace components from the Russian Federation
    Yes, yes, and also a lot of money and efforts to rebuild their industry that WILL HARDLY BE CARRIED OUT anytime.
  15. mmaxx
    mmaxx 28 September 2021 15: 49
    0
    It won't take a bit of time. You just won't need it. Because it never will.
  16. lopuhan2006
    lopuhan2006 28 September 2021 17: 04
    0
    Years means never!) By that time, donkey ears will remain from the aviation industry of Ukraine. Repair, maintenance of Anov and piece production of something there is a maximum.