Polish MEP asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with Abrams tanks

None of Poland's neighbors dispute its borders. Based on this, the Polish MEP, representing the Civic Platform party, on his Twitter page asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" tanks Abrams, which the Department of Defense intends to acquire from the United States.

The politician Janina Ohojska believes that at the present time it would be more relevant to direct funds to provide medical workers with decent wages. Such was her reaction to the statement by Polish Defense Minister Mariusz Blaszczak about a contract for the purchase of Abrams tanks in the United States for the Polish Army.

For expressing such an opinion, the Polish MEP was subjected to a flurry of criticism both from officials and from ordinary Poles. The head of the "Redoubt of a Good Name" analytical center, Maciej Svirsky, even suggested that the questions asked by the representative of the opposition were prompted to her in Russia.

But among the Polish citizens there are many sane people who supported Janina Ochoyska in her questions to the Ministry of Defense.

Whether Poland has Abrams or not, Putin can reach Warsaw in 36-48 hours

- wrote one of them in a comment to the article.

Another comment:

There are really problems with medicine. I put it mildly. But for some reason, American tanks are more important to us, which even cannot cross our bridges everywhere. Bridges are simply not designed for this mass.

However, American tanks can play a positive role even for Polish health workers, paradoxically. For example, the presence of "Abrams" in Warsaw, according to some Polish experts, can become an additional argument for Brussels officials to allocate funds for the salaries of medical personnel in Poland. The alleged reason is that Brussels will see that Poland is a reliable partner of the United States, and therefore will go to allocate additional funds to Warsaw. The logic is very strange.

Comments

[salad]

You draw a cross on the tower, such as a mobile medical station and everything suits everyone))

[knn54]

I don’t know about scaring, but the amount of $ 6 billion can shock anyone.

[Andrey Moskvin]

Australia is not shocked by tens of billions for the PL. And certainly no one attacks this kangaroo.

[alex neym_2]

In my opinion: "Abrams" refers more to "shock" weapons than defensive ... so, tremble the Eastern Crescents ... the guests are not far off - give just an excuse!

[Split]

Quote: aleks neym_2

In my opinion: "Abrams" refers more to "strike" weapons than defensive

Ummm ... colleague, the appetizer is not the cheapest these days, but you should not neglect This is essentially a yagd tiger of the times of World War II, a pt sai with a colossal mass, possessing a powerful cannon and frontal only armor. Hitler is also not like, for some reason they appeared only at the end of the war and when the maximum it was about counterstrikes and bringing down the pace of the offensive. In fact, Iraq has shown this. And then, the western group went around the main forces of Saddam through the desert and went to Baghdad ... they abstained from the oncoming battle, especially getting bogged down in the cities ... just remember the confusion when one rear column turned around ... the biggest losses were with them, even with the support of tanks

[voyaka uh]

"And then, the western group went around the main forces of Saddam through the desert and went to Baghdad ..." ///
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In 2003, there was no desert detour. Baghdad was attacked head-on, without any siege. There was only one counter battle. The Iraqi National Guard brigade was defeated dry, although it was on a prepared defense. And the Abrams with Bradleys went into the break. The rest of the defenders of the city along the perimeter were out of work and quickly surrendered after the official surrender.
The tanks entered Baghdad directly along the central avenue.

[Split]

O "specialists" have come, the curtain

taken from here https://topwar.ru/34855-pervaya-setecentricheskaya-voyna.html study the arrow on the left

[voyaka uh]

Baghdad was taken by blow from the southwest.
3rd Infantry Division and the 64th Panzer Regiment
did all the work - broke through the defense.
What you have on the arrow on the left from the north - it was
reconnaissance roundabout
small forces.

[aybolyt678]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Australia is not shocked by tens of billions for the PL. And certainly no one attacks this kangaroo.

Interestingly, chaos will also begin in Australia, how do the Americans go everywhere or the world financial capital decided to settle there? And the chaos will begin in full in America?

[Andrey Moskvin]

Maybe I'm dumb, but I did not understand the connection between your two questions.
Australia seems to be in the center, who is the head there?

[dauria]

Australia is not shocked by tens of billions for the PL. And certainly no one attacks this kangaroo.

Australia is now more important than Poland, the Baltic states, Ukraine and even Germany. She unexpectedly found herself at the forefront of the world nix. However, like Japan and South Korea. And Taiwan - that is not even an anthill at the tank training ground. This is just a piece of China, where, due to a misunderstanding, the government is dull.
And the Poles will need tanks. Only not on the eastern border, but on the western one. When the Americans have no time for Europe, the Germans will remember the Potsdam Conference.

[prior]

Precisely because of the lack of a "kenguryatnik" on French submarines, the Australians preferred the American ones ....

[Eragon]

Quote: Andrey Moskvin

Australia is not shocked by tens of billions for the PL. And certainly no one attacks this kangaroo.

And they won't pay. The United States will print a loan to them, load their enterprises, then write off this loan, like as allies who strengthen the defense power of the States. In general, this is the transfer of US budget money to the accounts of the owners of US military enterprises. And where is Australia?
At the same time, China gets large hemorrhoids, and the minke whales shrug their shoulders - "the same is not mi, the same is Australia."

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: salat

You draw a cross on the tower, such as a mobile medical station and everything suits everyone))

Yes, this has already happened:

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Abrashkas, I think, can still help medicine. Drive tanks to hospitals, aim the muzzles on the windows - not a single doctor will ask for an increase in salary.

[Civil]

Polish MEP asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with Abrams tanks

I have the same question)))

[alex neym_2]

The picture shows the Soviet KV-1, but does not change the essence

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: aleks neym_2

The picture shows the Soviet KV-1, but does not change the essence

There in the selection there is also a T-34 with a cross (German trophy) ... You got the point right ...

[Terenin]

Polish MEP asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with Abrams tanks

Polish deputy, do not be distracted from the Sorovian textbook. Kicked out of class and sent for parents .

[Maikcg]

Really strange logic, if Brussels sees Abrams in Poland, he sees not "America's reliable partner", but Warsaw, which has extra money for Abrams, then subsidies can be cut.

[BABAY22]

So after all, you can go around the world

[wandlitz]

Good luck....

[Alexander 3]

(However, American tanks can play a positive role) - for the American budget.

[rocket757]

None of Poland's neighbors dispute its borders. Based on this, the Polish MEP, representing the Civic Platform party, on his Twitter page asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with the Abrams tanks, which the Ministry of Defense intends to acquire from the United States.

... Absolutely ... no idea, that deputy !!! The most important thing for Polish hawks in power is to become the "beloved Gulchatai" of minke whales !!! And there is a COMPETITION, they are not alone on that role!

[Terenin]

[quote = rocket757] [quote] None of Poland's neighbors dispute its borders. Based on this, the Polish MEP, representing the Civic Platform party, on his Twitter page asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with the Abrams tanks, which the Ministry of Defense intends to acquire from the United States [/ quote]. Absolutely ... no idea, that deputy !!! The most important thing for Polish hawks in power is to become the "beloved Gulchatai" of minke whales !!! And there is a COMPETITION, I think. Vitya has already changed the veil for this deputy.

[CAT BAIYUN]

Good day, dear ...
I personally am surprised by the Poles: 11 lard of subsidies from the European Union per year and 6 (six! - a large half of the annual sponsorship) go to the purchase of half-dead iron .... And plus the service staff per year. And what about the BZ?
Who and how much will put in his pocket after the deal?

[rocket757]

Quote: KOT BYUN

Who and how much will put in his pocket after the deal?

Not without this ... but where the nimble Yankees rule / feed, some crumbs remain for others ... by the standards of the same Yankees, but locals seem to be manna from heaven!

[Denis812]

You are calculating the calculation incorrectly. :)
11 lard (although in fact a lot more) go to the Polish budget for roads, investment programs, hospitals, etc.
And Poland "itself found" 6 lards in its budget and formally it is completely different zlotys than those allocated by the EU.
Although ... well, you understand :)

[rocket757]

Gennady
With those gay parliamentarians what's the "trick" !!! They are not controlled by anyone in any way in the states from which they sit there! This, of course, for a while, and then ... and fig knows where they are then? Their affairs.

[singless]

digging into the ground for the fence

[bukhach]

Yes, just because of their ambition they buy, for the sake of solidity, so that the Armed Forces look more weighty, from this all their purchases are foreign, and they signal to us how strong and dangerous they are, they say, don't joke with us.

[zadorin1974]

There was once the Polish People's Republic. She built large landing ships and dry cargo ships, airplanes and helicopters, tanks and cars, and all herself, in her production. Germany, produces spare parts for Mercedes and left brandy with pseudo-spirits. But from mozha to mozha (true in dreams)

[No name B]

Dreaming is not harmful, soothe yourself further with fantasies about the "poor" Poles. Meanwhile, Poland has long turned into an industrialized power and is developing at the fastest pace in Europe. And you have pity on the Polish apples, they have nothing else ...
They buy planes for apples, tanks with ships, or change perfume with brandy for leftist spirits ...

[Denis812]

Poles are never poor at all.
The people above are crying that they say Poland does not release warships and tanks.
Well, yes, it does not.
but within the framework of the ideology that Poland follows, Europe feeds it and the States defend it.
The paradigm with foulbrood, as for me, BUT as a chel who has been living in Poland for 6 years, he quite likes it.
The economy is growing, houses and roads are being built.
Well, if an evil Putin attacks tomorrow, then neither 200 tanks nor a thousand will be taken out. Here only Omeriga will save.

[zadorin1974]

I will not try to discuss with an individual who is hiding behind a nickname (are you afraid of your inferiority?). Poland is self-sufficient or lives on EU subsidies? I have personal observations, and what about you?

[Cowbra]

How whom? Our farmers! I remember that during exercises there, tanks were famously cut across the fields ... When they did not fall off the roads)))

[sedoj]

The alleged reason is that Brussels will see that Poland is a reliable partner of the United States, and therefore will go to allocate additional funds to Warsaw.

Or Brussels will say: "Let America help you."

[aybolyt678]

Quote: sedoj

Or Brussels will say: "Let America help you."

Isn't Brussels an American office ??

[sedoj]

Quote: aybolyt678

Isn't Brussels an American office ??

They have different cash desks. Although there is only one machine.

[Sidor the Fierce]

God, give these defective little brains.

[Simon]

Quote: ROSS 42

Quote: salat

You draw a cross on the tower, such as a mobile medical station and everything suits everyone))

Yes, this has already happened:

Of course it was, but it didn't help.

[Evgeny Ostrovsky_2]

And with whom does Poland want to fight?

[Kushka]

You should sign posters, only this one is outdated
a propaganda tool, like your stamp.
Fascism is ONLY a form of state organization.
And a whole bunch of states have tried it, which is quite nothing.
And there is nothing that you put into this concept, there was not even close
But Hitler's Germany was NOT a fascist state. Not in her constitution,
neither in the names of the governing bodies, nor in the charter of the ruling NSNRP, nor in its
the program, not a single governing document speaks of fascism.
Those. - legally, documentary - this is not confirmed.
The Nuremberg trial went on for a long time, it was prepared and led by prominent lawyers of the countries
the world - and nothing about fascism is indicated in its documents (although the USSR would have been
apparently not against).
Hitler was a SOCIALIST, it is customary to call him and his supporters
NAZI, and that Germany is NAZI.

[Evil troll]

Very on time - 70 years from now, or what?

[Borisych]

The bottom line is that scrap metal is becoming more expensive. Abrams, of course, is not scrap metal, but the Poles will have it quickly. Kerosene, oh, oats are expensive these days.

[nod739]

For some reason, "sensible" Poles cannot ask the following question: "Well, Putin will reach Warsaw in 48 hours ... And what's next?" Does Poland have the resources that Russia needs? Strategic trade routes? Will it go on to Madrid and London? ... Then what? ... Why would Putin go to Warsaw? '
Sheep - one sdovo

[Spkrdctr]

The few tanks that Poland can afford will not intimidate anyone. 200 or fewer M1 tanks are just a bump in the road for 700 T-90s.

[Bradley]

Polish MEP asks who Poland is going to "intimidate" with Abrams tanks

I wonder how much they brought to the deputy?
In general, all this around the topic of the Polish Abrams is already so tired.
It is enough to turn on the head to understand the obvious things, namely: the M1A2C is the most modern tank, which the Poles will replace their T-72M with. 250 units M1A2C - will replace almost 600 units. T-72M.
Conventional rearmament from old equipment to new. What are the laughs?

And why not the Leopard, but the Abrams? Because the Germans are 250 units. Leo will do it for decades, and the Americans will do it in 3-4 years. There is a difference, right?

[IVF as]

Who needs you, combed Poland, you can't sort it out among yourself, I'm very sorry that our troops died in the Great Patriotic War 600 thousand, including my grandfather and you yapping there, full-time people.

[Pavel57]

Quote: BABAY22

So after all, you can go around the world

Abrams is needed as proof of loyalty to the States, otherwise there would be Leopards.

[Tramp007]

The question is rhetorical. Abrams are needed for the war with Russia

[AB]

can become an additional argument for Brussels officials to allocate funds for the salaries of medical personnel in Poland

Poland is the older sister of Ukraine. Everyone always offends her. She has little of everything. Constantly begging for money and never returning loans is her credo in life. Live for free and shout to everyone about the Great Economic Miracle of Poland.

[Smooth]

"Putin can reach Warsaw in ...."
Does Putin really need to go to Warsaw? Why, I hesitate to ask?

[Smooth]

Quote: AntiAleks

Poland is a beautifully developing country of the European Union - she took up her mind at the right time,
remembering how the USSR, together with its friend - fascist Germany, attacked them and literally tore them in half.

And sho, did you attack so hard? And tore it in half? Did you write the inscription?
And then he sat down on a stump, ate a pie, took out a history textbook and ... no, he didn't read ... I made a roll-up of one page and lit a cigarette. And from the rest of the pages I made paper airplanes and scattered all over the clearing.