The Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready to curtail the program of replacing the army UAZ fleet

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Presumably, the Saiga program, which aims to replace the military vehicles of the Ukrainian Armed Forces, is linked to corruption. Therefore, the Armed Forces of Ukraine are ready to curtail the program of replacing the fleet of army UAZs and a motley company of civilian off-road vehicles, which in various ways have entered the ranks of the Ukrainian army since 2014.

Oleksandr Nosov, Deputy Minister of Defense of Ukraine, wrote about this on Facebook.



"Saiga" will not be

- says his message.

The Saiga program will soon be stopped by a decision of the Ukrainian Defense Ministry.

Nosov considers it wrong that instead of purchasing serial SUVs and organizing their maintenance, the military department proposes modifying the models taking into account the requirements of the Armed Forces of Ukraine (he calls this process "doroblo"). At the same time, the cost of cars will increase by about 30 percent, not to mention the fact that the reconstruction will violate the integrity of the body and make the structure of the car less reliable and stable. The deputy minister demands to find out who was the initiator of this idea, calling it “clearly corrupt”.

In August, the Ukrainian Military Portal wrote that instead of UAZ vehicles, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will receive Japanese Toyota Hilux SUVs, modernized by the Ukrainian Armored Vehicle Company, taking into account the requirements of the military. But it seems that for the Armed Forces of Ukraine there is no alternative to the Soviet auto industry - at least for the reason that no one in Ukraine is ready to produce hundreds of SUVs at a relatively low price. There is no longer even a corresponding base and opportunities.
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  1. +4
    27 September 2021 17: 11
    What is that Ukraine ... We would have to provide our Armed Forces with good cars to replace UAZs, that "bobby", that "loaf", but in the right quantities ...
    1. +3
      27 September 2021 17: 15
      "Doroblo" is Svidomo tuning, or what? laughing
      1. +15
        27 September 2021 17: 29
        Quote: svp67
        We would provide our Armed Forces with good cars to replace UAZs,

        UAZ "Patriot" in various configurations is supplied to the troops on a regular basis.
        I don’t know about other regions, but there are almost no 469s left in KOR.
        1. -1
          27 September 2021 17: 53
          Quote: LiSiCyn
          UAZ "Patriot" in various configurations is supplied to the troops on a regular basis.
          I don’t know about other regions, but there are almost no 469s left in KOR.

          Alas, the farther from the Center, the more 469 are still in the ranks, and even the "loaves" in the Center and on the outskirts are full, full ...
          And "Patriots" is not the car that the army needs, here is the "Patriot-Pickup" yes, but they do not equip the troops
          1. +2
            27 September 2021 17: 57
            Quote: svp67
            and already "loaves"

            "Lens" based on the Patriot is replacing.
            Quote: svp67
            here is the "Patriot-Pickup" yes, but they do not equip the troops

            Why? I saw one for sure.
            1. 0
              27 September 2021 18: 02
              Quote: LiSiCyn
              "Lens" based on the Patriot is replacing.

              "Lens" based on UAZ ??????? Opening. UAZ is living out its last months, there are no sales, except for the security forces, the enterprises are preparing for a sale.
              And as far as I know "Lens" is based on "Typhoons", but they are not UAZ
              1. +3
                27 September 2021 18: 12
                Quote: svp67
                And as far as I know "Lens" is based on "Typhoons", but they are not UAZ

                Yes, I messed up ... sad
                Only a civilian option.
          2. +4
            27 September 2021 18: 43
            Today, on the way to work, I left the 469th.
            The smoking-room is alive! Everything is as usual, but in the front bumper
            some kind of proprietary winch - quite compact,
            all in chrome.
          3. +4
            27 September 2021 21: 06
            Excuse me, what did the 469th not please you with? And the loaves, by the way, too. And you are not a patriot either ... And why does the army need a pickup truck? Cars?
            1. +2
              28 September 2021 01: 52
              Excuse me, what did the 469th not please you with? And the loaves, by the way, too
              Quite right! After I retired from a military pension, for more than a decade I had a chance to travel to various impassable mountain-wooded places, developing cellular coverage for carved operators ... And I will say this - thanks to our good old army UAZ-469 and Gaz-66, which are everywhere , in spite of everything, quite coped ... and delivered us to our destination. good And many of today's fashionable SUVs often, to put it mildly, succumb to difficulties. negative
            2. +1
              28 September 2021 12: 46
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              Excuse me, but what did the 469th not please you?

              The fact that it is already structurally old ... and many of its consumer qualities were not up to par before
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              And the loaves, by the way, too.

              So you probably just didn't have to compare these UAZ crafts with other cars of a similar class. "Loaf" does not meet the current requirements DOES NOT MEET. Carrying the wounded in it is to doom some of them to death in advance.
              Quote: Sergey Averchenkov
              And why does the army need a pickup truck?

              In its body, you can install everything that is required, from various hardware rooms to weapons or a passenger module or an ambulance, and all this on one base chassis, which dramatically improves the logistics of repair and supply.
              1. 0
                28 September 2021 17: 08
                As far as I understand, the army does not need height, it does not need speed and comfort, it needs to be guaranteed to be delivered from point A to point B. Yes, it is old, but so far it is performing its duties and is not bad.
                I drove the wounded in a mi-8, believe me, in an mi-8, in a loaf, in a Porsche ... it makes no difference - those who are supposed to die will die anyway, either in your arms or in the hospital. Although ... if there is the slightest chance ... I do not mind - improve the loaf, offer something new with the same degree of permeability and about the same price.
                God bless him with this pickup, if you like, then we will put it into service, especially since it is ours and we will not depend on the supply of spare parts.
      2. +4
        27 September 2021 17: 30
        Quote: den3080
        "Doroblo" is Svidomo tuning, or what? laughing

        Translated into our "shotablo". Derived from "crush the loot"
      3. +4
        27 September 2021 18: 36
        "GOOD" - in Ukrainian - something ugly,
        or huge (bulky), but again ugly.
        Apparently it was this "term" that the official used, so
        most emphasizing their attitude to the subject of the conversation.
        The one who edited the note did it negligently, which is on VO
        not news
      4. +3
        27 September 2021 18: 49
        Quote: den3080
        "Doroblo" is Svidomo tuning, or what? laughing

        A trident will be welded onto the radiator grill, instead of the UAZ logo and a chew-blakit prapor through a stencil, they will be stuffed from four sides. Yes
    2. +1
      27 September 2021 17: 24
      -Nosov considers it wrong that instead of purchasing serial off-road vehicles and organizing their maintenance, the military department proposes the revision of the models
      When buying, rollback. IN OTHER cases, accusations of corruption and headache.
      1. +1
        27 September 2021 17: 31
        Simply, he was not brought or reported, so the fight against corruption began))) in a Banderland in a different way, it just does not happen)))
    3. +1
      27 September 2021 17: 40
      But how can you not supply, generals' assholes from the division commander and higher on HAVAL H9 for three lemma
  2. +3
    27 September 2021 17: 15
    Quote: svp67
    We would like to provide our Armed Forces with good cars

    Do they really ride Lawns in Israel?
    1. -2
      27 September 2021 17: 24
      Quote: Nafanya from the couch
      Do they really ride Lawns in Israel?

      You probably know better from Uzbekistan what the IDF drives ... Still closer to them
  3. +3
    27 September 2021 17: 18
    Let the babakhs be called for help - those have rich experience in modernizing Toyota SUVs wassat
    1. +10
      27 September 2021 18: 00
      Option is not suitable.
      Whatever one may say, but a woman needs a car to fight on it, hence the requirements.
      And ask a Bandera member - is he ready to fight? Not to make a fight, but to really fight?
      This means that all these "replacement programs" are needed not for replacement, but for laundering. One Program will end, another will begin .... Today the winner of the Hilux repainted, tomorrow some SWAT Pitt-Bull VX will start smoking.
      1. +3
        27 September 2021 18: 23
        And it's true drinks
        Otherwise, they could have bought Hammers from their "friends". Or from their Georgian friends laughing
  4. +4
    27 September 2021 17: 19
    Let the Luaz restart, but they don't deserve it either.
  5. +5
    27 September 2021 17: 22
    instead of UAZ vehicles, the Ukrainian Armed Forces will receive Japanese Toyota Hilux SUVs

    For the Ukrainian Armed Forces, there is nothing better than the Zaporozhtsev ...
    1. +2
      27 September 2021 17: 26
      Quote: Xlor
      For the Ukrainian Armed Forces, there is nothing better than the Zaporozhtsev ...

      LUAZiks were ...
  6. +3
    27 September 2021 17: 36
    It is difficult to carry out any purchasing programs if there is nothing to buy.
    1. +3
      27 September 2021 17: 42
      Quote: Normann
      It is difficult to carry out any purchasing programs if there is nothing to buy.

      But for some reason it's enough to put in your pocket! And the program is not a wolf, it will not run away into the forest. And therefore with our tricks .... KIO is resting!
    2. 0
      27 September 2021 18: 05
      Quote: Normann
      if there is nothing to buy.

      They have pennies for this ...
    3. +3
      27 September 2021 20: 50
      Quote: Normann
      It is difficult to carry out any purchasing programs if there is nothing to buy.

      But no one forbids wanting that. How many "Wishlist" they have recently covered themselves. Almost every week they wrote about the next one here.
  7. +2
    27 September 2021 18: 12
    the goal of the United States has almost been achieved - on the outskirts of Russia there is a technological desert and the number of people has become two times less ...
    so also the floor of the Russian Federation no longer considers the outskirts of their
  8. 0
    27 September 2021 18: 14
    "Saiga" will not be
    Don't rely on someone, but it's bad when it's even worse ...
  9. +1
    27 September 2021 18: 17
    they were told to fight corruption, so they are fighting. sawing immediately
  10. -13
    27 September 2021 18: 24
    Goodbye, UAZ!
  11. +4
    27 September 2021 19: 14
    I don’t understand, but why close the program? There would be no way to just keep on putting forward unrealizable conditions. How many bureaucrats would feed on this for a few more years! Svidomye are losing their grip!
    1. +1
      28 September 2021 01: 41
      Nuuu, there are not many stupid people.

      1. because, they are already beginning to ask where.
      2. Having closed a case, you can open a new one, the documentation will only have to change the name. It is changed by the function = find-replace and the old one is printed, but with a new name. Such a scheme is known to all, and is actively used.
      3. in the legislation there is usually such a thing as a statute of limitations, usually 10 years. If you have been sitting on this topic for 20 years, you might ask for 20 years.
  12. -1
    28 September 2021 00: 52
    As always happens with Svidomites, any peremoga they always end in a grandiose zrada laughing ... Let them ride oxen, at the same time the opportunity to drown with dungs ​​will appear.
  13. NSV
    0
    28 September 2021 02: 38
    How many of these UAZ vehicles are left in the Armed Forces of Ukraine ?! UAZ, if my memory serves me, is a delivery vehicle for the commander of a regiment, or a separate battalion! Nurses are not taken into account, they have practically been replaced. As a carrier of military weapons, the UAZ was practically not used even in the Soviet Army! Just another deputy ... decided to remind Buy, tezhe Toyota, Volkswagens for commanders and just something !!!
    1. +1
      28 September 2021 04: 46
      Judging by the number of admirals, there are too many commanders, there is not enough money for all.
  14. 0
    28 September 2021 20: 27
    It can easily be made Ukrainian, you just need to write UkrAZ.
  15. 0
    28 September 2021 23: 45
    We would also like to bring order to the management team on HAVAL H9 for three lemons straight nobles (((, VAI on SsangYong Rexton (I saw it not so long ago, I would not be surprised that they gave it out from under the ass when they got tired of it) and UAZ patriot, and those who close to the center, the rest on 469 and loaves are constantly fighters on them I come across on the road, and no matter how I respect this car, I'm talking about UAZ, the quality of products has fallen dramatically, not what it was under the Union.Now it is very disgusting, even for the military: it rusts , something constantly bursts somewhere flows, breakdown after breakdown and it's not my opinion I know the people who work for them. And of course they are just a coffin, especially a loaf in an accident. They say everything because of low salaries and outdated equipment at the car plant. the army needs a single modern SUV for all branches of the military, without foreign components, and not such a range in models.

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