The Cabinet of Ministers has supported the bill on the extension of the maximum term of service of senior officers

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The Russian government has supported a bill to increase the age limit for military service for senior officers. The corresponding decision is stated in the government response.

The government of the Russian Federation supports the bill

- the text says.



Thus, the bill proposed by the President of Russia, amending Art. 49 of the Federal Law of 28.03.1998 N 53-FZ "On Military Duty and Military Service", was approved by the Cabinet of Ministers. It is currently under consideration by the State Duma deputies, where it was introduced in July. Undoubtedly, the bill will soon receive full approval of the deputies.

Recall that Vladimir Putin proposed to give the head of state the right to extend the deadline for the service of marshals, generals and admirals. According to Putin, sometimes there is a need to extend the service life of some "highly qualified officers."

The new law will give the president the right to extend the term of service of senior officers after they reach 70 years of age. Currently, the law "On conscription and military service" defines the age limit for military service at 65 years with the conclusion of an additional contract until the officer reaches 70 years of age.

Currently, there are no marshals in the Russian armed forces, the highest officer rank is army general. There are more than 10 officers on active military service in this rank, five of them are between the ages of 65 and 69.
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  1. -20
    27 September 2021 08: 33
    ***
    An old horse will not spoil the furrow ...
    ***
    1. -8
      27 September 2021 08: 36
      ... but he doesn't plow deeply! laughing However, I am for!
      1. +8
        27 September 2021 08: 42
        Enviable to the sleeping and stammering Can? laughing
        1. -17
          27 September 2021 09: 04
          Quote: Pilot
          Enviable to the sleeping and stammering Can?

          70, it's not far over 80. The head is still working fine
          1. +7
            27 September 2021 09: 08
            Quote: Seryoga64
            The head is still working fine
            Did the VTsIOM tell you this? So yes, there is ahead of the whole planet. lol
            1. -7
              27 September 2021 09: 11
              Quote: Pilot
              Did the VTsIOM tell you this?

              My friends. I have many friends who are over 70
              1. AUL
                +38
                27 September 2021 09: 26
                Quote: Seryoga64
                My friends. I have many friends who are over 70

                Is that what they told you? Do not believe it! At this age, people think more not about defending their homeland, but about their pressure, ischemia, hemorrhoids and someone else who is rich. No matter how swagger, and sclerosis and insanity has not been canceled. I know what I'm talking about (I'm over 73 already sad )! laughing
                1. +1
                  27 September 2021 09: 48
                  Quote from AUL
                  No matter how swagger, and no one canceled sclerosis and insanity. I know what I'm talking about (I'm over 73 already)!

                  But you can work.
                  1. AUL
                    +26
                    27 September 2021 09: 55
                    Quote: tihonmarine
                    But you can work.

                    Can! A janitor, for example. Or a security guard at the gate of a guarded parking lot. But not in a general's position, where you need to quickly make super-responsible decisions.
                    1. +7
                      27 September 2021 09: 57
                      Quote from AUL
                      Can! A janitor, for example. Or a security guard at the gate of a guarded parking lot.

                      Which is what we are doing. But generals do not want to be janitors and office bearers.
                    2. -7
                      27 September 2021 10: 01
                      Quote from AUL
                      Can! A janitor, for example.

                      And nothing that there are many active surgeons, scientists who are over 70?
                      1. 0
                        27 September 2021 12: 46
                        Don't confuse God's gift with an egg.
                      2. -3
                        27 September 2021 12: 49
                        Quote: V.
                        Don't confuse God's gift with an egg.

                        And this is what? belay
                      3. +3
                        27 September 2021 12: 56
                        An army general and a doctor are completely different. A doctor at 70 years old is the highest experience and knowledge, and a general cannot tie his laces, they have all their shoes with elastic bands.
                      4. -1
                        27 September 2021 13: 03
                        Quote: V.
                        and the general will not be able to tie his laces,

                        So he has no less experience. And about the laces ... he can't run with a gun. These are the staff officers
                        In general, I talked about something else
                        No matter how swagger, and no one canceled sclerosis and insanity.
                      5. +8
                        27 September 2021 12: 52
                        Oh how laughing ... Operating? Have you seen such a surgeon at the table yourself)? (I am already under 50, I would not like to tempt fate at the machine at 70 wink ). Although, you can try as a patient, but I do not advise laughing ... And at the expense of scientists, so with us for 30 years you can lie on your laurels without doing anything else.
                      6. -2
                        27 September 2021 12: 58
                        Quote: Adrey
                        Have you seen such a surgeon at the table yourself)?

                        Personally, over 70 have not seen. I am over 60 years old
                        (I am already under 50, I would not like to tempt fate at the machine at 70

                        Worked with this. He was a little over 50. And he worked, he had to feed two freeloaders 27 and 36 years old who did not work anywhere. We were sincerely sorry for him, but we could not help.
                      7. 0
                        27 September 2021 13: 05
                        Operations are different. Something simple (relatively), it's like riding a bike (once I have learned the rules). More serious things, a completely different approach. In the pliclinic and the boil to open - operation laughing
                      8. -1
                        27 September 2021 13: 22
                        Quote: Adrey
                        Operations are different.

                        Removed tuberculoma.
                        This is a lung operation. Easy?
                      9. -1
                        27 September 2021 13: 08
                        Worked with this. He was a little over 50. And he worked, he had to feed two freeloaders 27 and 36 years old who did not work anywhere. We were sincerely sorry for him, but we could not help.
                        This is definitely not about me laughing
                      10. -4
                        27 September 2021 13: 23
                        Quote: Adrey
                        This is definitely not about me

                        And you are not interesting to me.
                        Farewell
                2. -1
                  27 September 2021 09: 58
                  Quote from AUL
                  Is that what they told you?

                  They didn't tell me anything. I myself can see that they have a sound mind and a good memory.
                  No matter how swagger, and no one canceled sclerosis and insanity.

                  Also cancer, stroke and other age-related diseases at the age of 40
                3. +1
                  27 September 2021 11: 14
                  But what is really there, at once for all the time.
                4. -4
                  27 September 2021 12: 45
                  Quote from AUL
                  I know what I'm talking about (I'm over 73 already)!

                  If not a military secret, what are you doing in your life? This is not an idle question ... It is clear that with age we tend to get old and get a little sick. But that's the kind of thing. In those places where there is a "age limit", there is still an almost compulsory periodic medical examination, based on the results of which a decision is made on the possibility of admission to work, and also recommendations are given for maintaining or restoring health. And if you operate on your prolapsed intestine (for example) in a timely manner, at 45-50 years old, then at 70-75 it may not bother you in principle. The same can be with marasmus or sclerosis (there are many different interesting names in the medical encyclopedic dictionary) ... Therefore, I agree with you that you know what you are talking about in the part that concerns you personally. But this does not mean that it must necessarily concern your other colleagues of the same age as you, or even older ones.
                  1. AUL
                    +6
                    27 September 2021 13: 05
                    Quote: Hagen
                    If not a military secret, what are you doing in your life?

                    Yes, not a secret. From 72 to 08 years from a programmer to the head of the CAD department at a machine-building enterprise. And if at the beginning of this path he went to work as if he were on vacation (he loved to program), then, having got out to managerial positions, he hated work. Because it was not enough to design and write tasks myself, and more and more plans, reports, planning meetings, swearing with bosses of all stripes (and there are a lot of them in recent years, and all effective managers). So my nerves were worn out decently. Now I am rehabilitating myself on the sly on fishing. Well, it helps a lot!good
                    1. -3
                      27 September 2021 13: 10
                      Quote from AUL
                      Yes, not a secret.

                      I think that you perfectly understand that you and the generals are "motivated" in very different ways by direct leadership to preserve your health. Therefore, it may differ significantly for you.
      2. +16
        27 September 2021 08: 59
        Quote: Finches
        ... but he doesn't plow deeply! However, I am for!

        Pralna, the Minister of Defense is 66 years old, but he "sows" and "plows" and "builds" cities and "leads" in elections. Well, where is such a lad to retire ?!
        1. +5
          27 September 2021 09: 59
          Quote: Stroporez
          the Minister of Defense is 66 years old, and he both "sows" and "plows"

          Well, at the ego age, I both "sowed and plowed", and did not miss a single skirt.
          1. +16
            27 September 2021 11: 36
            remember the anecdote? )))
            - and the neighbor says that he is 5 times ..
            - well, you say
          2. +2
            27 September 2021 12: 38
            Quote: tihonmarine
            Quote: Stroporez
            the Minister of Defense is 66 years old, and he both "sows" and "plows"

            Well, at the ego age, I both "sowed and plowed", and did not miss a single skirt.

            Slides down the roof
            Old man Kozlodoev,
            Assertive as a corncrake.
            Dreams of climbing
            Old Goat Man
            To some woman in bed.
            It used to be
            Walked Kozlodoev,
            His eyes were empty
            And the whistle of all the women
            Summoned the Goats
            Make love to the bushes.
            Occupation is
            Loved the Goat
            And he gratified a dozen at times.
            The idol of the people
            Known for Kozlodoev,
            And everyone respected him.
            1. +4
              27 September 2021 17: 09
              And now ... and now they hid ... ki
              In the windows of individual apartments ....
              Goat-goats are crawling - his trousers are wet ...
              He's old. He wants to go to the toilet ...
        2. +10
          27 September 2021 10: 52
          Quote: Stroporez
          Well, where is such a lad to retire ?!

          no matter how this lad was nominated for the post of Putin, there is too much of him in the zomboyaschik.
          1. +6
            27 September 2021 10: 57
            Quote: Karabin
            no matter how this lad was nominated for the post of Putin, there is too much of him in the zomboyaschik.

            Nooo, Khuzhenetovich represents a different diaspora in the Kremlin, besides, he is a shamanist and drinks the blood of a black dog, and Volodya is such a boizza.
            1. +5
              27 September 2021 11: 02
              Quote: Stroporez
              and Volodka is such a boizza.

              maybe with fear and movement?
              1. +10
                27 September 2021 11: 23
                Quote: Karabin
                maybe with fear and movement?

                Of course, in addition, evil tongues claim that he is healthy, where can he find another such guarantor, so that he can give guarantees during his lifetime, preserve and increase wealth, and after death the pantheon erected a hero in the homeland.
                Every lake there arises a natural question, why did we rob our homeland and sell it, if everything was taken away.
                Yesterday I laughed to tears with emotion, when I watched the video how the huzhenetych talked with two boys and asked who you want to be, one answers as a paratrooper.
                Mmmmm .., you say a paratrooper? Duc be, son, a general! And put his cap on the boy's head! wassat
                I immediately remembered the shots from the film "Officers", I think how hard the gaspad turns you out, played.
            2. +5
              27 September 2021 22: 33
              Quote: Stroporez
              Nooo, Khuzhenetovich represents a different diaspora in the Kremlin, besides, he is a shamanist and drinks the blood of a black dog, and Volodya is such a boizza.

              I would not rush to such a conclusion.
              painfully he is our stubborn cardboard army general (who did not serve in the army)
              and they spend all their holidays together with the Most Serene Highness, they sleep in the same tent ...
              the main thing is to guarantee the safety of yourself and your family.
              It was burning
              1. +3
                27 September 2021 22: 35
                Quote: ja-ja-vw
                the main thing is to guarantee the safety of yourself and your family.
                It was burning

                Well, Duc Khuzhenetovich is a representative of that very family, the safety of a cat. had to be guaranteed. wink
                1. 0
                  27 September 2021 22: 37
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Well Duc Khuzhenetovich is a representative of that very family, the safety of a cat. had to be guaranteed

                  I would bet on a Tuvan.
                  strength in his claws.
                  1. +4
                    27 September 2021 22: 42
                    Quote: ja-ja-vw
                    I would bet on a Tuvan.
                    strength in his claws.

                    Now it is difficult to guess their "agony" in the sense on which horse to bet. If from the point of view of proximity to the body and love of the electorate, then Kozhuget Shoigovich looks like that.
        3. +9
          27 September 2021 11: 21
          Quote: Stroporez
          Well, where is such a lad to retire ?!

          Here's the key thought! Loyal and conservative people should be kept close to themselves as long as possible.
          1. +11
            27 September 2021 13: 36
            Quote: BecmepH
            Loyal and conservative people should be kept close to themselves as long as possible.

            Everything goes to that. Until death does not part with fasting / rite.
            The elections have passed - the establishment of positions has begun.
            A bill has been submitted to the State Duma allowing governors to be elected for more than two consecutive terms.
            https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/5006518?utm_source=yxnews&utm_medium=desktop
            1. -1
              27 September 2021 15: 37
              Quote: Hyperion
              Everything goes to that. Until death part with fasting / rite

              That's right. Now BB the post cannot be left. Where will he be received?
              On the rise in popularity, it was necessary to leave the post.
              And now he does everything in his own interests. Surround himself with loyal and loyal people and hold out as long as possible - that's his task There is no other way out! And this is the right strategy for his situation.
              Humanly understand GDP
    2. 0
      27 September 2021 08: 44
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      An old horse will not spoil the furrow ..

      Project BARS: a three-day training camp for reservists started in North Ossetia
      1. -1
        27 September 2021 09: 13
        Quote: Flood
        Project BARS: a three-day training camp for reservists started in North Ossetia

        Well, yes, "right", otherwise they sat on the rubble and eat up pensions. But how many of them, or rather us - millions! How many armies can be put under arms!
        1. 0
          27 September 2021 09: 57
          Quote: Starover_Z
          But how many of them, or rather us - millions! How many armies can be put under arms!

          There is such a fantastic cycle. "Old Man's War". True, the bill is not about the armies of the elderly, but about the strengthening of gerontocracy in Russia.
      2. +2
        27 September 2021 12: 55
        Quote: Flood
        BARS project:

        In shaggy 1986, our regiment was "deployed" to wartime staff. The first thing we did was bring the appearance of the called-up enlistment staff to the closest possible to the "military" one. And here the reservists are more reminiscent of the "splinter" of the 6th Army of the Wehrmacht of the "February 1943" model .... In general, such fees are a necessary thing ...
    3. +20
      27 September 2021 08: 59
      ... will quietly lie down in it and die. Age-related changes are not a joke, and they are not canceled by any training and medicine. It's like a VERY complex computer program - errors accumulate. And when it will be necessary to work - quickly and now - fluff - and blue smoke. 70 is too much!
    4. +11
      27 September 2021 09: 18
      Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov
      An old horse will not spoil the furrow ...

      War is the work of young people ...
      The Cabinet of Ministers has supported the bill on the extension of the maximum term of service of senior officers
      The decision is, of course, expected, but now, thanks to him, the movement up the "career ladder" for officers to slow down ...
      1. +7
        27 September 2021 09: 49
        Quote: svp67
        The decision is, of course, expected, but now, thanks to him, the movement up the "career ladder" for officers to slow down ...
        Young officers, too, should be happy to vote for whoever they order from the upper block. winked
      2. +7
        27 September 2021 09: 51
        Quote: svp67
        War is the work of young people ...

        A handiwork? "The old people unleash a war, and the young go to die." (C)
      3. -7
        27 September 2021 10: 04
        Why all of a sudden? ))) How can 10 army generals slow down thousands of officers?) This is the highest command staff. Only a few will get to this level.
      4. +10
        27 September 2021 10: 49
        Quote: svp67
        The solution is of course expected

        Of course, taking into account the trend of the general old-fashioning of power. In addition, the inner circle is aging simultaneously with Himself. "Zeroed itself - zeroed a comrade!"
    5. +12
      27 September 2021 09: 59
      An old horse, must pass on experience while he is in his right mind. A horse (even the best one) with age begins to think slowly and work less ...
      1. +11
        27 September 2021 10: 15
        Quote: Zaurbek
        A horse (even the best one) with age begins to think slowly and work less ...

        You can "lie in office" until the end of your days, and those who really work hard, often did not even reach retirement according to the old "rules"
        1. +3
          27 September 2021 10: 34
          The most important danger is when the leader is made a screen, and other people do things behind his back. And all of us do not become more cheerful and stronger over time. The same Brezhnev was not the worst leader of the USSR and Russia.
  2. -8
    27 September 2021 08: 41
    What for? And so, throw the stick - you will hit the general.
    1. -6
      27 September 2021 10: 05
      Generals of the army?) You try to read it first and then scribble something.
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 13: 02
        Did the stick come to you? Get well soon.
        1. -6
          27 September 2021 13: 12
          This technique works on children. Not with me. I don't like boors since childhood. Especially infantile.
          1. +1
            27 September 2021 13: 25
            Quote: carstorm 11
            I don't like boors since childhood.

            An unhealed wound? Be patient, Vanya, be patient.
  3. +9
    27 September 2021 08: 43
    After 70? But for some reason I don't see anything good. All the same, the command staff must be updated. And titles should be awarded for services to the Motherland and not to a specific person
    1. +14
      27 September 2021 08: 51
      "Zeroing" is contagious ... Yes
      1. +6
        27 September 2021 09: 44
        Quote: Snail N9
        Zeroing is contagious.

        Old age is a contagious disease, incurable and leads to death!
        Kozma Prutkov, gerontologist, thought number 14
    2. -6
      27 September 2021 09: 09
      Quote: Lykases1
      And titles should be awarded for services to the Motherland.

      Excuse me, but what merits does the young lieutenant have after college who will be awarded the next rank in 3 years?
      1. +2
        27 September 2021 09: 42
        Is platoon command not meritorious?
  4. +8
    27 September 2021 08: 51
    As far as I understand, if you look at who it is "there are more than 10 officers in active military service in this rank, five of them are between the ages of 65 and 69", it will become clear for whom all this was started?
  5. +3
    27 September 2021 08: 52
    It takes up to 100 years, no less.
  6. Cat
    +11
    27 September 2021 08: 57
    In peacetime, generals can be of any age. It is possible, as in earlier times, to enroll babies in the service, by the age of 18, you look at the length of service - you already need to attach the colonel. The beauty. But before the first war.
  7. +1
    27 September 2021 09: 02
    More than 10 officers are on active military service in this rank,

    When will it be banned "more", "less", "about"?
    Well, only 10 officers, it's hard to count and say how many without any "more"
    1. +1
      27 September 2021 09: 33
      Quote: Seryoga64
      Well, only 10 officers, it's hard to count and say how many without any "more"

      Currently, there are no marshals in the Russian armed forces, the highest officer rank is army general. There are more than 10 officers on active military service in this rank, five of them are between the ages of 65 and 69.

      As far as I remember, the highest command (officer) staff determines not a military rank, but a position.
      Russian official statistics do not keep an official count of generals and admirals. Given the large number of the power bloc and the presence of civilian posts corresponding to these ranks, it is very problematic to do this. If we talk exclusively about the security forces, it is calculated that at the beginning of 2020 there were 2 people, including 205 in the Armed Forces, 1 in the Ministry of Internal Affairs, 317 in the Russian Guard, 340 in the Ministry of Emergency Situations and 18 in others. structures.
      1. +1
        27 September 2021 12: 42
        The post is army general and shoulder straps are like those of marshals in the USSR. The rank of marshal will probably be introduced soon.
        1. +3
          27 September 2021 17: 04
          so it exists, Marshal of the Russian Federation, do you write and do not know about it? And the Marshal of Russia was already alone, Sergeev was his surname. Former Minister of Defense. So Kozhugetich will soon be assigned, this is a fact.
      2. Cat
        +1
        27 September 2021 18: 27
        Namely the title. According to Article 46 of the Federal Law of 28.03.1998 N 53-FZ "On Military Duty and Military Service", military personnel with the rank of Major General (Rear Admiral) and above are included in the higher officer corps. A colonel in a general position is a senior officer. By the way, the law with amendments and additions came into force on 1.09.2021/XNUMX/XNUMX, and the rank of marshal is also there.
  8. +4
    27 September 2021 09: 06
    on the extension of the maximum service life of senior officers

    Why, when you could just reset them to zero?
  9. +16
    27 September 2021 09: 06
    Again, the old will be kept at public expense, still - the salary is not feeble, provision and power. From such a position, of their own free will, they leave only feet first.
    All this is disgusting.
    1. +12
      27 September 2021 09: 11
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Again, the old will be kept at public expense, still - the salary is not feeble, provision and power. From such a position, of their own free will, they leave only feet first.
      All this is disgusting.

      There they are all their own, but they do not abandon their own!
  10. +23
    27 September 2021 09: 10
    At the beginning of the Second World War, there were years: Zhukov 45, Rokosovskiy 45, Konev 44, Vatutin 40, Katukov 41, Rotmistrov 40, that's the right age to work effectively, and after 60 you need to rest and not interfere with those who are younger.
    1. AUL
      +9
      27 September 2021 09: 43
      Quote: Alex66
      At the beginning of the Second World War there were years: Zhukov 45, Rokosovskiy 45, Konev 44, Vatutin 40, Katukov 41, Rotmistrov 40,

      But the well-deserved and authoritative Voroshilov and Budyonny were crap with a bang in all areas where they were put! Because the experience of the Civil War was no longer rolling, and new ideas at this age are already hard to perceive. "Young nonsense will come up with all sorts of things! Checker - it is more reliable. The main thing is the fighting spirit of the fighter!"
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    3. Cat
      +1
      27 September 2021 18: 35
      and after 60 you need to rest

      For this purpose in the USSR there was "Attic" - the General Inspectorate of the Ministry of Defense.
  11. +9
    27 September 2021 09: 17
    All these movements are caused by the collapse of military education. There are no new colonels to replace these generals, since from 99 they began to completely destroy the Soviet system of training officer personnel, and they could not create a new one, as always.
    Nothing! Pass another five years and the age limit and raise to 80)))
    1. +9
      27 September 2021 10: 02
      You say that these generals are military geniuses. A sort of Moritz of Orange, Napoleon and Suvorov at the minimum salaries.

      Ordinary useless careerists. They wiped their pants in the SA, now they wipe their pants in the RA.

      They can be replaced by any VO reader.
      1. +5
        27 September 2021 11: 50
        Quote: Kitty Moore
        They can be replaced by any VO reader.

        Yes Easy! There are a lot of people with marshal's shoulder straps here ... laughing
        1. +3
          27 September 2021 11: 52
          So that's why I suggested. VO is the forge of personnel of the Russian state. Doesn't it sound?)
      2. +3
        27 September 2021 12: 59
        Quote: Kitty Moore
        Ordinary useless careerists. Wipe their pants in the CAare now rubbing pants in RA.

        If only in the SA ... Some of them did not serve in the army either ...
        1. -1
          27 September 2021 13: 05
          I would not admit to military schools without a deadline (since they do not want to cancel it).
          1. Cat
            +3
            27 September 2021 18: 48
            I would not admit to military schools at all without a deadline

            Since such a booze has gone, I would generally suggest introducing the German system - when a candidate serves as a private, then a non-commissioned officer and a fenrich, and enters the officer's school exclusively on the recommendation of his commander and the officers' meeting. And after the end, it falls under the beginning of it. So that it was discouraging to dial from the street by an adwassat
          2. 0
            27 September 2021 20: 48
            Well, this is an exaggeration, in a military school "deadline" for all 5 years!
            They are being bullied there not for fear, but conscientiously!
            1. -2
              27 September 2021 22: 21
              It's OK. Most retire at an early age anyway.
              It will be useful to try on the hide of a disenfranchised conscript. Perhaps, at least the attitude towards the soldier will become humane.
  12. +15
    27 September 2021 09: 24
    Yes ... What can I say? What is the old broom, so are ...
    Doesn't anyone care about the feeling of "Deja vu"? Political gerontophilia already took place in the USSR, and what did it lead to? Nepotism, protectionism and keeping the chair at any cost do not give positive results. What can you say there?
    What's the use of these old generals
    Whose exploits no one in the country knew?
    Fate caresses the young and the zealous,
    Without them "bummer", without them "blockage" ...
    Instead of thinking about the present of the country and its near future, they are coming up with laws that allow them to smoke the sky and wipe their pants ... Gentlemen of the military, dreaming of a lifelong career, indicate the timing of the end of the war in Syria, so that we can know what age is in the near future. will extend the service life of senior officers in the future ...
    By the way, before raising the retirement age for ordinary citizens, civil servants also raised the retirement age ... We are waiting for the continuation of the banquet, especially since now no one will interfere with the adoption of any laws.
  13. +11
    27 September 2021 09: 36
    It is very convenient for the authorities, when all around are old, familiar faces. And then you still have to put a new one and you will have to adjust it for yourself. Or, God forbid, yourself under it! And with the old ones, you can calmly doze off. Complete obstruction of power. Which is what we observe.
    1. +2
      27 September 2021 22: 33
      And with the old ones, you can calmly doze off.


      Somehow one with big stars was present at the check ... Dozing almost all the time. There was no sense in his presence. Experience did not convey any, did not say anything efficient. And another "person" at the exit to the sea ordered to interrupt the sample of the GPBA and put it again. A "beard" has formed on the drum. In the end, the "body in the hangar" did not appear on the scoreboard. We came to the base, the "end" hangs a couple of meters from the UPV (setting / sampling device). We climbed into the UPV and manually .... Avral.
      Old people don’t remember anything, they don’t know new technology. There is no sense. The phrase “they don’t give a pension in vain” is relevant.
      "Hand washes hand" ...
      A shame.
  14. +7
    27 September 2021 09: 40
    It is necessary for life. Otherwise, we will lose the invaluable experience of waging war in 1960.
    1. +1
      27 September 2021 11: 46
      Quote: Pereira
      It is necessary for life. Otherwise, we will lose the invaluable experience of waging war in 1960.

      ))
  15. +5
    27 September 2021 09: 53
    Heh, and I was also minus when I wrote about gerontocracy in the Russian army.
  16. +2
    27 September 2021 10: 00
    In the distant 1981 1983 he served in the GSVG. We had a very demanding colonel, chief of staff of a division. He stood up for my defense three times and once soldered his lips for 5 days. In connection it is easy. Respect was not reputed. A real officer, a mountain for a soldier. Baranov Alexander Ivanovich General of the Army (retired since 2008), Hero of Russia for the Caucasus. He lives in Samara, 75 years old. Good health and long years of life.
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 13: 49
      Quote: tralflot1832
      In the distant 1981 1983 he served in the GSVG. We had a very demanding colonel, chief of staff of a division ..... Baranov Alexander Ivanovich General of the Army (retired since 2008), Hero of Russia for the Caucasus. Lives in Samara, 75 years old.

      That is, at the age of 35 he was already a colonel? Not bad.
      1. +1
        27 September 2021 13: 58
        And how he shot from Makarov, just tin. It looks like after school he wanted to be a general, from such a hole. He visited the GSVG (officer) website all of the highest opinion about him. Colonels became even earlier in age. On our street in Sochi as a child, We then met in 1988 and had a good time. One of us was a colonel of the Strategic Missile Forces (I don’t remember what it was called in the USSR) for 27 years.
        1. +2
          27 September 2021 14: 56
          Cool. No quotes. soldier
          1. +1
            27 September 2021 15: 02
            True, he was the son of the first secretary of the regional party committee, but already retired. And they had a house, no different from other houses.
  17. +5
    27 September 2021 10: 01
    All right for the highest, they will not be at a loss in any case. Pinzhakam why the heck did you extend the terms of stay in the reserve in due time? They sent their VUSs to the memory dump a long time ago, most of the IHCs simply will not pass. What is the use of them for the troops? Nobody for Faberge was pulling to destroy the forges of personnel!
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 20: 52
      The jackets are not warm from this - not cold, and the specialty needs to be raised at the training camp, but everyone put a bolt on it.
      Now I will not approach the AKZS or APA myself, transport and auger only.
  18. +9
    27 September 2021 10: 42
    After 70 years, there is nothing at all to occupy leadership positions. And not only in Moscow Region.
    1. +2
      27 September 2021 13: 05
      Quote: zwlad
      After 70 years, there is nothing at all to occupy leadership positions. And not only in Moscow Region.

      Right!!! good Physiological features of the human body. I didn't have time to do it in a leading position before the age of seventy - go sprinkle the paths with sand ...
  19. +8
    27 September 2021 11: 03
    How can they not want to leave their offices ..
    Moss will soon cover everything.
  20. +7
    27 September 2021 11: 33
    "carriage races" are getting closer ...
  21. +7
    27 September 2021 11: 44
    Well, everything is simple. The moon-faced man grows old, and the people loyal to him grow old.
    In March, he canceled the limit for civil servants.
    https://gossluzhba.gov.ru/news/b259e000-b18c-eb11-afea-0a94ef943a49
    Now here is for senior officers.

    For himself, he extended the throne until 36, and it is necessary to try for his mighty handful.
    It's scary to change. Young, toothy, disobedient people will come, they will take away something else ...
  22. +3
    27 September 2021 12: 27
    What a madhouse, that there is no one to make new marshals and generals ... As they say, cadres decide everything, but they are not there, apparently ..
  23. +6
    27 September 2021 12: 31
    The limit of service directly in the army is up to 50 years of age. During his conscript service, I saw enough of generals up to the commander-in-chief of a branch of the armed forces, commanders of districts. Over 50 years of apparent mental and physical degradation. Some were led under the arms. If you still have intelligence, go at least to the teachers in the academy. Or inspectors as in the USSR. After 60-65 years, you need to read the Holy Scripture and not puff up under the marshal's shoulder straps.
    1. 0
      27 September 2021 13: 04
      I've seen enough too, mostly drunks and grabbers.
  24. +3
    27 September 2021 13: 38
    Power was taken, retained - it's time to think about the eternal. Eternal reign! And there it is not far from the serfs. There are no irreplaceable ones (or there are, but only for very close friends)
  25. 0
    27 September 2021 15: 33
    Well, what, A.V. Suvorov. during the Italian campaign, when crossing the Alps, there were already 69 .. No, really, there are already such "Suvorovs", more and more "courtiers" and "necessary" .. with rare exceptions ..
  26. +4
    27 September 2021 15: 53
    little to prolong: should be until complete extinction in the workplace
  27. +1
    27 September 2021 16: 31
    Up to a hundred years old you will serve without old age!
  28. 0
    27 September 2021 16: 36
    Quote: Seryoga64
    Quote: Lykases1
    And titles should be awarded for services to the Motherland.

    Excuse me, but what merits does the young lieutenant have after college who will be awarded the next rank in 3 years?

    How - in 3 years?
  29. +3
    27 September 2021 17: 12
    with dual citizenship for the civil service, you can take a bribe, too, if you did not know that it was her darling. to the governors to increase the number of terms of office, to the president, the terms have been reset to zero, now we will produce old people in the Moscow region. this is required by the constitution. they live like on another planet! Well, create, as in the days of the USSR, a group of general inspectors, and let them indulge in memories there, and do not interfere with people to serve.
  30. 0
    27 September 2021 18: 19
    Quote: Hagen
    Quote from AUL
    Yes, not a secret.

    I think that you perfectly understand that you and the generals are "motivated" in very different ways by direct leadership to preserve your health. Therefore, it may differ significantly for you.

    Yeah, yeah and VVK is required. But (!) Somehow one general on FIZO gave his best and died there. And also our men live a long time (?), Also in dockyard times, three officers died in one month, aged from a little over thirty to sixty-odd years ...
  31. +1
    27 September 2021 18: 26
    You can accept a legal law, but where can you go about the laws of nature? what
  32. 0
    27 September 2021 20: 26
    Why did everyone get so excited, someone raised the retirement age, and someone has a maximum service life, as they say, "please treat with understanding." smile
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    0
    28 September 2021 06: 07
    The law for the person in the photo.
  34. -2
    28 September 2021 07: 31
    Reminded. It is not age itself that is important here, but the dynamics that signal stagnation
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  37. -1
    28 September 2021 12: 04
    For 146 million of the population, nichrome is not done so that they live like humans, but for the sake of 10 old fighters, the Federal Law was changed! Super!!!!

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