In the United States, they choose a light airmobile tank: the pros and cons of prototypes

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BAE Systems MPF prototype


The implementation of the Mobile Protected Firepower program is designed to minimize the gaps in the capabilities of the combat teams of the US Army's infantry brigades. Now they do not have a combat vehicle that could provide support for attacks against fortified positions, personnel and light armored vehicles of the enemy, while being mobile and light itself.



The MPF mobile armored vehicle, which is essentially a light tank, according to the author of The National Interest, Caleb Larson, will not enter the army tank brigades, but will be supplied to light infantry units and airborne units that do not have tracked armored vehicles.

Ideally, writes Caleb Larson, the new armored vehicle will have to bridge the gap between adequate armor protection and weight, which will allow it to be airmobile (including aviation). After all, one of the weaknesses of the American airborne forces is the lack of such an armored vehicle that could be airlifted. In this regard, the new armored vehicle will have to replace the problematic M551 Sheridan.

But what are the main candidates for the role of the new light airmobile tank? Let's look at them in more detail, and also discuss the pros and cons.

The General Dynamics combat vehicle was created on the basis of a long experience in tank building. It is planned that this light tank will not differ much from the M1 Abrams in fire control and electronics, which will make the training process for driver mechanics faster and easier.


The company's offer includes components from Ajax supplied to the British Army. But remember, recent tests of Ajax have revealed a number of very serious problems. The soldiers even suffered minor injuries and hearing problems due to excessive vibration and noise.

At the same time, the prototype, as one of the advantages, has good firepower - a 105-mm main gun, despite the fact that most of the guns of the main battle tanks of the armies of NATO countries have 120 mm. The weight of the prototype varies between 30-50 tons, but this, in turn, raises questions about its mobility when using air transport. A large mass is already a minus. A 50-ton armored vehicle can be attributed directly to the airmobile class at a stretch.

BAE Systems is presenting another candidate who could be the winner of the program. This armored vehicle is significantly lighter and smaller, which makes it a more interesting solution for airmobile units. In addition, the armored vehicle engine can be easily removed for field repair. A definite plus.

The prototype from BAE is based on the older M8 Armored Gun System design. At one time, they tried to replace the Sheridan with this design as an army airmobile light tank. The modernized design from BAE will make it possible to more effectively protect the bottom of the car from explosions, as well as an updated engine and electronic equipment. At the same time, there are also disadvantages - for example, the modest engine power, which limits its capabilities, although the armored vehicle weighs so little.

Caleb Larson concludes that one of the armored vehicles, in any case, should win the program competition. The US military will still have to choose between the greater power of the GD or the lightness and mobility of the BAE. As for the plans to equip the units, while the US armed forces are considering the purchase of 504 such armored vehicles, which will be transferred to separate companies of the infantry brigades of the regular army and the national guard. Each such company will consist of 14 armored vehicles.
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  1. +1
    27 September 2021 16: 23
    The soldiers even suffered minor injuries and hearing problems due to excessive vibration and noise. "

    We can sell them blueprints for a wonderful airmobile T-34/85, but there are also vibrations and noise ... Let the glamorous NATO soldiers put a gun on the Bentley. Only you can't shoot - it will fall apart.
    1. +1
      27 September 2021 17: 59
      once you can
    2. 0
      28 September 2021 19: 14
      If you put a normal muzzle brake, you can shoot. I read somewhere that during one project, either the British, or the French were so clever with the muzzle brake that when fired, the gun did not roll back but jerked forward :-)
  2. +3
    27 September 2021 16: 33
    And what, for example, Abrams is not airmobile? Doesn't any plane lift it?
    1. +7
      27 September 2021 16: 40
      If one does not pick it up, you can do it together! laughing
    2. -1
      27 September 2021 16: 45
      Airmobile then it is airmobile.
      But it is loaded with difficulty ... lol

      1. +3
        27 September 2021 16: 55
        Quote: prior
        Airmobile then it is airmobile.
        But it is loaded with difficulty ...


        1. 0
          28 September 2021 10: 23
          Quote: svp67


          1. 0
            29 September 2021 08: 43
            Tse Ukraine)))
    3. +1
      27 September 2021 17: 49
      And what, for example, Abrams is not airmobile? Doesn't any plane lift it?

      We need to sell them BMP-3)))
      The technical task seems to have been specially created for it)))
  3. -1
    27 September 2021 16: 39
    Hmm ... Not the same "Sheridan", not the same ...
    1. +1
      27 September 2021 16: 49
      Quote: Leader of the Redskins
      Not the same "Sheridan", not the same ...

      Yes, yes, especially if you read some of the theses of this article.
      Now they do not have a combat vehicle that could provide support for attacks against fortified positions, personnel and light armored vehicles of the enemy, while itself being mobile and light.
      и
      Prototype weight varies between 30-50 tons
      ... With mobile, it's still here and there, but easy ???????
  4. +2
    27 September 2021 16: 45
    It is planned that this light tank will not differ much from the M1 Abrams in fire control and electronics, which will make the training process for driver mechanics faster and easier.
    But now I would like to understand what does the mech-water have to do with fire control and electronics?
  5. 0
    27 September 2021 16: 48
    Whatever the Yankees invent, they will still get Abrasha. ))
    The specimen from BAE is interesting, but high, the center of gravity will be shifted ... if our T-72s are tumbling into a turn at speed, this one overturns it with interest. We are waiting for a photo of shape-shifters from car platforms. )))
    1. +3
      27 September 2021 17: 01
      Quote: Canecat
      The copy from BAE is interesting, but tall,

      Not higher than that of ACS MSTA
      Quote: Canecat
      if we have T-72s tumbling into turns at speed,

      The T-72 makes a "somersault" at a turn because of the peculiarity of its transmission, by the way, it can do it on a straight line, if the mech-water is completely inexperienced ...
      1. +4
        27 September 2021 17: 05
        > Not higher than that of ACS MSTA

        Note that for Msta, the height is still much less critical than for any tank.
        1. -5
          27 September 2021 17: 06
          Quote: Victor Tsenin
          Note that for Msta, the height is still much less critical than for any tank.

          Controversial statement, especially while shooting and marching
          1. +2
            27 September 2021 17: 37
            The controversy here is quite limited, having as an object a ranged and melee weapon. About instability during shooting and march I agree.
          2. +3
            27 September 2021 23: 19
            Quote: svp67
            Quote: Victor Tsenin
            Note that for Msta, the height is still much less critical than for any tank.

            Controversial statement, especially while shooting and marching

            Are you serious ???
            Are you comparing something relatively airmobile with a caliber of 105 mm with a tracked self-propelled gun with a caliber of 152 mm?!?!
      2. +2
        27 September 2021 17: 06
        Quote: svp67
        Not higher than that of ACS MSTA

        Compare ...))
        I have not heard that MSTA would run under 70 ... maybe I missed something? ))
        1. 0
          27 September 2021 17: 09
          Quote: Canecat
          I have not heard that MSTA would run under 70 ... maybe I missed something? ))

          Yes, at least speed it up to 100 on a smooth area, but God save you, even at 20, on bumps ...
      3. +3
        27 September 2021 17: 44
        The T-72 makes a "somersault" at a turn because of the peculiarity of its transmission, by the way, it can do it on a straight line, if the mech-water is completely inexperienced ...


        But from this place in more detail, especially about a somersault on a straight line.
        1. -6
          27 September 2021 17: 50
          Quote: Old Tankman
          But from this place in more detail, especially about a somersault on a straight line

          And you don’t know how this tank starts to behave in fifth gear and higher ... Or don’t you?
          Your "eagles" "freak out"
          1. +6
            27 September 2021 17: 55
            The fact of the matter is that I know very well. But, you are probably more experienced, as you tumbled because of the FEATURES of the transmission and on turns and even on a straight line!
            I was very interested in these features.
            1. -4
              27 September 2021 19: 03
              Quote: Old Tankman
              But, you are probably more experienced, as you tumbled because of the FEATURES of the transmission and on bends and even on a straight

              Funny ... That is, you think that the behavior of our tanks in higher gears, from fifth and higher, are caused by other reasons. What do you think? Why is this not possible on tanks with a hydrostatic transmission? If you know well ...
              1. +6
                27 September 2021 19: 50
                You yourself mentioned the features of the T-72 transmission, leading to somersaults. So point them out. What to ask me about this? Now we decided to also mention some features of the behavior of our tanks (which ones, all?) In the fifth and higher gears (there are 80 of them on the T-4 and it drags along the asphalt during sharp turns and in the first one)
                Can't explain the FEATURES of the transmissions, so why mention them? Now I would also like to hear about the FEATURES OF OUR TANKS ON HIGHER GEARS.
                There are already 2 questions for you request hi
                1. 0
                  28 September 2021 12: 56
                  Quote: Old Tankman
                  So point them out.

                  It is that when driving in higher gears, from fifth and higher, it is very difficult to make smooth turns, with the slightest tug of the lever, and this happens quite quickly, the tank throws in the direction of the turn, which leads to an uncontrolled skid perfectly shown in the video with the incident in Minsk , where the pillar actually saved the tank, which, after such a skid, rested its caterpillar against the curb and could lie on its side, or even turn over. All this says that in the BKP, and this is an element of the tank's transmission, they are inferior, and sharply, in terms of controllability at high speeds, both to the new hydrostatic transmissions and to the old transmissions with PMP, their only advantage is compactness.
                  1. +2
                    28 September 2021 17: 57
                    On asphalt, as well as on ice, the tracked vehicle is very unstable due to poor grip. At high speeds, it drags and brings in any equipment, even cars and an old DT-75. And they somersault from meeting with an obstacle at the same time, and not from the features of the transmission.
                    Well, here's a "drift" of a tank with a GOP at a much lower speed.

                    Skid is a function of traction, not transmissions.
                    Change your keyboard to levers!
                    1. -2
                      28 September 2021 18: 22
                      Quote: Old Tankman
                      Skid is dependent on traction,

                      But not quite here. The running caterpillar has a higher speed than is required in the given conditions and leads to a stall braking. What is not, on the same old tanks with PMP, with the first position of the levers, this is almost impossible to achieve, only when the lever is moved to the second position
                      Quote: Old Tankman
                      Well, here's a "drift" of a tank with a GOP at a much lower speed.
                      Excuse me, but here the tank enters a turn ON INTENTIONALLY, show me how it drifts in a straight line? Yes, not like "Abrams" itself quite confidently feels, that on the asphalt, that on the concrete

                      The Belarusian tank was walking in a straight line, all it had to do was turn it over a little, not turn it, but turn it over, but it was thrown into a drift
                  2. 0
                    28 September 2021 18: 08
                    There is still no answer about the features of the T-72 transmission and the features of our tanks in high gears.
                    Yes, and you do not have it.
                    Good luck!
                    1. -1
                      28 September 2021 18: 27
                      Quote: Old Tankman
                      Yes, and you do not have it.

                      You are simply too "old" to understand what drift is when you deliberately turn and stall into "drift" when driving in a straight line ...
                      1. 0
                        28 September 2021 18: 41
                        This is an unintentional drift on the Abrams, young man. This is a common drift. Well, be healthy with cars with PMP. But you are still ahead. You will see this too.
                        I say, throw Claudia, get off the couch and the levers!

                        Learn!
                        And take care of yourself.
                      2. 0
                        28 September 2021 18: 44
                        Quote: Old Tankman
                        It's an unintentional drift, young man.

                        Yes ... I will say more uncontrollable ... and unfortunately, it is not uncommon on our tanks with BKP. I don't think there was a bad mech-water behind the levers of the commander's tank, most likely the best, but he was caught too, and what can I say about the young, and even conscripts. So in Germany, a tank flew off the bridge onto the autobahn, and there it was ten meters high, it's good that no one died, although they suffered badly, the tank went under decommissioning
        2. +1
          28 September 2021 11: 42
          Quote: Old Tankman
          especially about somersault on a straight line.

          As with a pole ... the barrel into the ground and somersaults forward))
          1. 0
            28 September 2021 18: 08
            Is that so. laughing
      4. 0
        27 September 2021 19: 09
        Not higher than that of ACS MSTA

        What does the ACS have to do with it if the Americans choose an airmobile light tank? Or do you call everything that has a goose and a cannon a tank? lol Sad, mr marshal sad
        1. 0
          27 September 2021 19: 10
          Quote: Fil743
          Sad

          What does aviation understand in our land affairs?
        2. +5
          27 September 2021 20: 03
          There is also "Sprut SDM1", why not a tank, although it is called a self-propelled gun?


          This self-propelled gun also floats.
          1. +1
            28 September 2021 13: 47
            Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich
            This self-propelled gun also floats.

            And aerotransportable
    2. +1
      28 September 2021 10: 54
      They have a light tank in weight like our MBT))))
  6. +6
    27 September 2021 17: 13
    Is 50 tons a type of light tank? The striped ones hardly make compromises, they want a fart with a larger caliber and a powerful motor and Armor so that, judging by the Joe's tower, it will also remain in its place - that's just a scanty version of the abrashka wassat
    1. +1
      28 September 2021 10: 55
      As I understand it, the question here is to place something with a tank gun in a transport plane of the Hercules type.
      At the moment, Abrams can only take the C-17 Globemaster III, and then only one.
    2. 0
      29 September 2021 05: 15
      50 tons, this is the beginning - a test of the pen.
  7. 0
    27 September 2021 18: 16
    Now they do not have a combat vehicle that could provide support for attacks against fortified positions, personnel and light armored vehicles of the enemy, while being mobile and light itself.
    ... This is always the case when Wishlist exceeds the capabilities ... moreover, not someone's specifically, but AT ALL!
  8. +1
    28 September 2021 10: 17
    At the same time, the prototype, as one of the advantages, has good firepower - a 105-mm main gun, despite the fact that most of the guns of the main battle tanks of the armies of NATO countries have 120 mm. Prototype weight varies between 30-50 tons

    So they are now developing a "light" tank with similar characteristics and weapons. Why not also call it airmobile?
  9. 0
    28 September 2021 15: 42
    Quote: PROXOR
    As I understand it, the question here is to place something with a tank gun in a transport plane of the Hercules type.
    At the moment, Abrams can only take the C-17 Globemaster III, and then only one.

    Again, they do not want to go to such a compromise as the Sprut SD, although the Sprut SD is quite a tank, only without armor
    1. 0
      29 September 2021 05: 14
      Large-caliber will withstand? It's enough.
  10. 0
    29 September 2021 05: 13
    Those. the vector of development of armored vehicles is shifting to light and mobile, tk. there is nothing unbreakable, so why fence a vegetable garden?
  11. 0
    29 September 2021 08: 45
    Where do they want to fight with these junk? On the steppes of Hochlandia?))))
    Or is Texas attacked?)))