"Bergmann-Bayard" - a pistol in the Mauser style

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"Bergmann-Bayard" - self-loading pistol chambered for 9 × 23 mm Largo from the collection of the Royal armory chambers in London. Model 1910/21 (manufactured in 1935-1940) Produced in Belgium under a German license

I also saw that every work and every success in business
produce mutual envy between people.

Book of Ecclesiastes or Preacher, 4:4

History firearms. Let's start with the biography of this truly extraordinary person. Theodor Bergmann was born on May 21, 1850 in a family far from the most advanced in terms of education: in the family of the innkeeper and brewer Johann Adam Bergmann, who lived in Bavaria, in the Seilauf community, in the Aschaffenburg region.

He received his primary education at a community school, then studied at a vocational school in Aschaffenburg. His name is known in the history of weapons. But Theodor Bergmann himself was never a weapon designer. He was a businessman and industrialist.



True, he still invented something himself.

He started with household appliances like ovens and vending machines. And he succeeded in this - he created a vending machine "Merkur", which already in 1888 began to be produced together with the Berlin inventor Max Sielaff for the Cologne chocolate manufacturer Ludwig Stollwerk.

By the age of 19, Bergmann was already managing a metallurgical plant in Gaggenau, producing a wide range of products ranging from load-bearing beams to household stoves, as well as bicycles and air guns. Under the leadership of Bergmann, the company expanded the production of pneumatic weapons, and also switched to the production of rifles and barrels for them. This gave him the opportunity to turn to inventors looking for a company to produce their developments, and he soon found such inventors.


Diagram of Otto Brouwetter's pistol from a patent of 1892

So, in 1892, a Hungarian watchmaker named Otto Brauwetter, together with the company "Hagennau" (later became "Bergmanns Industriewerke GmbH") was granted a patent for the mechanism of a self-loading pistol. The fate of Browwetter himself is unclear: he seems to disappear from the records after receiving the first patent. Instead, another man emerged, whom Bergmann found to turn the patent into a viable serial pistol, and that man was none other than Louis Schmeisser, a household name in European firearms history.


Bergmann pistol, model 1893, manufactured for testing in Switzerland. Length 280 mm, barrel length 135 mm, weight 980 g. Swiss patent No. 5030 dated 1892. Pay attention to the ramrod mounted on the pistol on the left, and the grooved plate on the right, which served to cocking the bolt

Schmeisser took a patent from Brouwetter and made a pistol from it first, model 1893, and then in 1895. The 1893 model had a wedge-locked semi-open breechblock. Loading was carried out from a 5-round clip, which was inserted into the pistol on the right and closed with a rotary cover. It used a 7,5-mm revolving cartridge, which was then in service in Switzerland, but in the end the Swiss military rejected this pistol.


Now look at how Louis Schmeisser perfected Otto Brouwetter's pistol in his 1895 patent. The design has become much simpler ...

When cars began to come into fashion, Bergmann immediately turned his attention to them and started producing them already in 1894. And he did not just take up, but produced a car called "Orient Express", which was in production until 1903, and then the model "Lilliput" (until 1907). But…

At the same time, he was engaged in weapons. And in the end, in 1910, he sold his car business to Benz & K to deal exclusively with weapons.

Then Bergmann divided the design activities of his enterprise into two different directions: the creation of weapons for the civilian market and, accordingly, weapons for the army. Later, he transferred developments on civilian weapons to third-party manufacturers so that they would release his samples under license, and completely concentrated all the company's forces on weapons of a purely military purpose.

"Bergmann-Bayard" - a pistol in the Mauser style
Scheme from a patent for one of Theodor Bergmann's early pistols - model 1897 with a very original system of locking the barrel with a slide to the left. Moving back after the shot, the bolt tilted to the right, but got into place and connected with its lugs with the lugs on the left on the frame. It's just amazing what technically complex constructions were then invented by the designers, and how difficult it was to produce them ... But they invented and produced them!

The first was the Bergmann-Mars pistol in 1901, and this was Bergmann's first project created directly for the military weapons market.

The second was a pistol for the civilian market - "Bergmann-Simplex".

Pistol "Bergmann-Mars" interested the military of several armies and even got on several comparative tests, conducted together with pistols "Mauser" C96, "Mannlicher", "Browning" and "Luger". In total, his company produced about 1 Bergmann-Mars pistols.

But the designer's creative thought continued to work, and the result of this work was the Bergmann-Bayard pistol. By the way, it was designed by Louis Schmeisser in 1903, after which it was offered on the arms market under the designation M1903.


Pistol "Bergmann-Simplex" (or "pistol number 5), created on the basis of a patent of 1897 (photo of the Rock Island auction)


The same pistol with a butt holster attached to it (photo from the Rock Island auction)

And ... this new pistol really liked the Spanish army, who adopted it under the name “Pistola Bergmann de 9 mm. modelo 1903 ".

The capacity of his own production seemed to Bergmann insufficient to produce a batch of 3 pistols, and he began to look for a German manufacturer to fulfill the Spanish order. I searched ... and did not find!

Then he turned to the famous Belgian manufacturer Henri Pieper, who owned the Anciens Etablissements Pieper company, which was producing weapons under the Bayard trademark.

Pieper turned out to be a prudent and far-sighted man. He not only completed the Spanish order for Bergmann, but also acquired the right from Bergmanns Industriewerke to manufacture his pistols for sale on the civilian market.

This is how this unusual double designation appeared in the trade name of this pistol. Then the pistol was modernized again and later released under the designation "Bergmann-Bayard" 1908 (not to be confused with the pistol "Bayard" 1908).


Pistol "Bergmann-Bayard" M 1910/21 (released in 1935-1940) From the collection of the Royal Armories in London

A characteristic feature of this pistol was the stamp on the left side of the magazine receiver, which is an image of a knight galloping on a horse with the inscription Bayard under it. By the way, although this pistol was adopted by the Spanish army in 1908, the production and delivery of all 3 units of weapons dragged on for two years and was completed only in 000.


A characteristic feature of the pistol was the annular grooves on the magazine and on the “washers” of the bolt, for which the latter was pulled back. The magazine stopper was in front of the trigger, which was convenient: it was enough to move your finger forward and press it, as the magazine fell out of its socket. The pistol weighed about one kilogram, had a length of 254 mm, with a barrel length of 101 mm. The muzzle velocity of the bullet was 350 m / s, the aiming range was 100 m, and there could be two magazines for it - for six and ten rounds

One of the reasons was that Pieper hastened to release Bergmann's pistol to the civilian market in Europe.

And back in 1910, he managed to conclude a contract for the supply of the same pistol to the Danish military. So, Denmark became the second state whose army received this pistol. True, for the Danish military, several changes were required to the original design of the pistol.

For example, semicircular cutouts were made on the side walls of the magazine receiver for more convenient removal. On the stores, ring grooves were arranged so that, again, fingers did not slip on their surface, and it was more convenient to remove them.
An S-shaped mainspring was introduced.

All these changes were made to the design of the pistol in the same 1910 year, but they did not require much work. Thereafter, the Danish Armed Forces ordered 4 pistols of this new model. Deliveries of pistols to Denmark began in 840 and were completed in a year, in 1911.


Advertising of the Bergmann-Bayard pistol. It also shows the 9mm Largo cartridge.

Until the outbreak of the First World War, no one made new large orders to the Anciens Etablissements Pieper company, but the updated model of the Bergmann-Bayard pistol of 1910 was eagerly bought on the civilian market, where it successfully competed with the German Mauser.

Then the First World War began, Belgium was occupied by Germany, and the company "Anciens Etablissements Pieper" continued to produce these pistols, now for the needs of the German army.

Immediately after the end of the war, the production of this pistol in Belgium was discontinued, although a small number of "Bergmanns" were nevertheless collected from parts preserved in warehouses.


Diagram of the device of the pistol "Bergmann-Bayard" in 1908. Please note that the barrel of the pistol, in contrast to the same "Mauser", was made extremely rigid due to a T-shaped flat plate located on top of it, and the front sight was also installed on it. The barrel was one piece with the bolt carrier and, when fired, moved back with it, after which it stopped, and the bolt moved further, cocking the hammer that hit the spring-loaded striker passing through the bolt body. The ejector is located on the top of the shutter. The spent cartridges are also thrown up.

And here the Danish armed forces again needed the same pistols and spare parts for the M1910 pistols already at their disposal.

But now they could not get them from the company "Anciens Etablissements Pieper". Of course, there were a lot of all kinds of pistols in Europe at that time. And a new pistol of any other system could be ordered. But ... everything was outweighed by the power of tradition and habit.

And then in Denmark they decided to produce these pistols on their own. We bought a license, and in 1921, Danish pistols, once again modified, received a new index M1910 / 21, went into the Danish army and were in its service until 1946, which set a kind of record - 35 years in the ranks of the Danish army!

Well, in total, during the period from 1903 to 1935, about 15,5 thousand pistols of this system were produced.
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  1. +8
    17 October 2021 05: 34
    Mauser style pistol
    Thanks for posting ... hi
    1. +11
      17 October 2021 08: 23
      There was also the Bergmann Mars M 1903 model.
  2. +2
    17 October 2021 05: 38
    The latest model looks straightforwardly modern.
  3. 0
    17 October 2021 06: 07
    Yes, the red commissars have lost a lot.
  4. -1
    17 October 2021 06: 46
    hi Auto RU
    Envy, envy, but in the capitalist world there is also ENTREPRENEURANCE ... You cannot come up with something new yourself, so think about how to use other people's ideas and make a profit ...
    1. +9
      17 October 2021 08: 19
      You cannot come up with something new yourself, so think about how to use other people's ideas and make a profit ...


      Exactly! The same story with a p / p design by Hugo Schmeisser, which was produced under the label Bergmann MP18 / 1.
      1. +8
        17 October 2021 08: 36
        Exactly! And I still could not remember where I heard this name! I didn’t know anything about pistols until this day, and a submachine gun had appeared in publications earlier.
        Thank you for reminding me.
        Ouch! Good morning, by the way!
        And thanks to Vyacheslav Olegovich for the article!
        1. +9
          17 October 2021 08: 52
          Hi! smile
          In 1928, Hugo left Theodor for the Heinel company, where he improved his typewriter and then it was produced as the MP28 / II, the name Schmeisser for some reason did not stick to her, but the Bergman surname disappeared. laughing
          1. +1
            18 October 2021 07: 16
            In an article by Louis Schmeiser. So Hugo or Louis?
            1. +1
              18 October 2021 10: 37
              In an article about Pope Louis, but I meant how shamelessly industrialists gave their names to products, and with Hugo, a vivid example.
          2. +1
            18 October 2021 10: 15
            Quote: Sea Cat
            In 1928, Hugo left Theodor for the Heinel firm


            My answer is too long to fit here. Read:
            https://zen.yandex.ru/media/ingw/shturmgever-shmaisser-i-henel-ot-bergmanna-k-heneliu-612e2d21e1b97d3d3fd92f58
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        2. +5
          17 October 2021 12: 00
          Chief, on the site in 2015 there were publications: "Pistols: Bergman-Boyard and its varieties," Early pistols of Theodore Bergman "
          1. +6
            17 October 2021 12: 20
            So I just registered in 2016! And before that I sometimes dropped in on "raids"!) laughing
            1. +4
              17 October 2021 15: 57
              Although I have this third "coming", but I also did not find those publications, just below there is: "similar materials" - in bold, click and read
      2. +1
        18 October 2021 10: 07
        Quote: Sea Cat
        which was produced under the designation Bergmann MP18 / 1.

        and with what "marking" was it supposed to be produced?
        1. 0
          18 October 2021 10: 42
          And what is the meaning of the question?
    2. +4
      17 October 2021 11: 47
      "how to use other people's ideas."
      Sergei, this also requires talent: to find what to invest in, not to miscalculate, the product is not yet familiar to consumers, and to bypass claims in violation of the patent. Not everyone can do it
  5. +10
    17 October 2021 06: 55
    For some reason, he reminded me of a Soviet children's pistol that fired discs)
    1. +4
      17 October 2021 21: 20
      Quote: carstorm 11
      For some reason, he reminded me of a Soviet children's pistol that fired discs)
      children's pistol s-21
      S-21-F
      hi
  6. +3
    17 October 2021 06: 57
    who lived in Bavaria, in the Seilauf community, in the Aschaffenburg region.

    Rustic?
    1. +6
      17 October 2021 08: 47
      Rustic?

      Bergman was born in Gaggenau. It seems to be a village, but on the other hand - an industrial center.
      1. +5
        17 October 2021 09: 01
        Yes, I gave the author a little podnach, with his thesis about the inferiority of the villagers, from whom inventors and scientists do not come out :)))
        1. +2
          17 October 2021 15: 45
          V. O. a little client to the village. Probably, you "liked" the rural avenue and still "hiccups"? Perhaps because I was born in a village and I don’t give a damn about rural dirt. We knew when and where to get around the mud.
          Everywhere they do not like "strangers" at dances, but in the village if a "stranger" from the city appears .... For some reason they ended up in the mud, or even in horse excrement. No, we didn’t beat them and didn’t force them into ... We just knew all the tracks, but the city ones didn’t
  7. +15
    17 October 2021 07: 46
    Vyacheslav, thank you, good article. smile
    Theodore Bergman.


    Bergmann M1894
    1. +15
      17 October 2021 07: 53
      M 1908 Bergmann Bayard.


      Model 1910 of the year.
      1. +19
        17 October 2021 08: 34
        And I was not too lazy and completely disassembled
        Here's another interesting model
        Bergmann M1910 / 21
        The Krakow Museum of the Polish Army. In general, there were these models - more than one article. Bergmann pistol models:
        Bergmann 1893
        Bergmann 1894
        Bergmann 1895
        Bergmann 1896
        Bergmann 1897 Bergmann Pieper
        Bergmann 1898
        Bergmann 1899
        Bergmann 1901 Bergmann Simplex
        Bergmann mars
        Bergmann 1905
        Bergmann 1908 Bergmann-Bayard 1908
        Bergmann 1910 Bergmann-Bayard 1910
        Bergmann 1910/21 Bergmann-Bayard 1910/21
        1. +13
          17 October 2021 08: 39
          Then he dropped this case and switched to machine guns.
        2. +8
          17 October 2021 08: 44
          I was not too lazy and completely disassembled

          I'm lazy, and there are plenty of other things to do, we are preparing for winter ... a village, what can you take from us. request
          1. +7
            17 October 2021 10: 38
            Quote: Sea Cat
            I'm lazy

            But I'm not lazy, but the photo of the complete disassembly is not "public domain", and therefore is not available to me.
            1. +6
              17 October 2021 10: 47
              But I'm not lazy


              Well, we know that. smile drinks
              1. +9
                17 October 2021 11: 21
                Quote: Sea Cat
                we know.

                Oh, Konstantin, you can't even imagine how much work it costs to get interesting photos that have not been seen before. For example, there are interesting photos of weapons in the Swedish Army Museum. But ... everything is in Swedish! In English and Russian (!), Only the most basic. So write an article a quarter of the case. The rest is photo search!
                1. +5
                  17 October 2021 11: 41
                  Thank you Vyacheslav Olegovich! Great article cycle! good
                2. +7
                  17 October 2021 11: 42
                  No, I can imagine a little, I myself once "dabbled" in writing articles on weapons. But that was in Soviet times, on the one hand, information and photos were more difficult - there was no Internet, and on the other hand, it was simpler - you had to choose from what was available, but it was available then ... you know. In addition, I knew how to draw a little and under all the drawings in the editorial office they also put my signature, so they already copied me. And then the Beetle appeared and everything became much easier. smile
                  1. +4
                    17 October 2021 13: 55
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    I could draw a little

                    Not a little, but very good! Everyone would be so ... "a little".
                3. +8
                  17 October 2021 21: 02
                  hi
                  Bregmann-Bayard mod 1903

                  Sorry for the glare on the glass.
  8. +8
    17 October 2021 08: 04
    The cartridge for this pistol is good, it was necessary to acquire a license for it, and make a TT for it
    1. +8
      17 October 2021 08: 30
      Should not have.
      In Russia, there was a well-established production of barrels with a caliber of 7,62 mm., Rifle and revolver, for a Mauser cartridge, a caliber of 7,63 mm (measured in different ways, some in the fields, some in rifling), so there was no need to alter anything. And to master a new 9mm production line. cartridges for pistols and P / P, the Soviet Union at that time simply could not afford.
  9. +6
    17 October 2021 08: 29
    I thought it was about Gruzdev's 6,35-mm Bayard.
    1. +8
      17 October 2021 09: 47
      The story with Gruzdev is one of the not very frequent references to the Bayard pistol to the general public.

      In the film, they talk about him, as in the Weiner book, but in the frame they show Walter Model 7 instead
      1. +1
        17 October 2021 13: 36
        Walter Model 7 Probably the filmmakers didn't have Boyard?
        1. +5
          17 October 2021 14: 22
          As far as I understand, the 1910 Bayard is not the most common model.
          Or maybe they just did not attach importance. At the time of the shooting of the film, only a few could recognize such nuances. It is now thanks to the Internet that such information is known.
          1. 0
            17 October 2021 15: 47
            May very well be
          2. +2
            17 October 2021 16: 31
            As far as I understand, the 1910 Bayard is not the most common model.

            This is not Bayard 1910, but Bayard 1908, and to be more precise, his version of 1911 chambered for 6,35 mm.
            1. +4
              17 October 2021 17: 45
              Thank you for correcting it, you are right, I got stamped.
              Now I looked at Wikipedia, it is interesting that the article about Bayard 1908 is only in English and in Russian, and in Russian it is more detailed.
              It seems that it is not the most famous pistol, and in the USSR it became famous thanks to the Weiners.
              1. +9
                17 October 2021 18: 13
                In fact, there are samples that are widely covered in popular literature, and there are many samples that the authors of popular publications do not know about.
                For example, everyone knows that Hiram Maxim created a machine gun. But that he was engaged in semi-automatic pistols and was one of the "pioneers" in their creation, not everyone knows. And the well-known "Parabellum" tilt of the handle by 55 degrees is Maxim's idea.
                1. +3
                  17 October 2021 21: 35
                  There was an article about him in 2017 here.
                  1. +1
                    17 October 2021 21: 37
                    There are no others, others wander far ..
                2. +3
                  17 October 2021 21: 37
                  Maybe it's good that the Silverman-Maxim pistol was not mass-produced and little known?
                  And it looks like a DIY place
                  1. +2
                    17 October 2021 21: 56
                    The first samples of pistols did not shine with special beauty. Maxim and Silverman are not alone here.

                    Ebets' semi-automatic pistol. 1894, USA.

                    Passler and Seidl semi-automatic pistol. 1894, Austria.
                    1. 0
                      17 October 2021 22: 12
                      The question is not beauty, but the complexity of manufacturing. In the case of the Maxim pistol, it is minimal. Simple shapes of elements and design that do not require special qualifications and equipment for manufacturing, a minimum of parts.
                      The pistol is well suited for handicraft making.
  10. +9
    17 October 2021 09: 06
    By the age of 19, Bergmann was already the manager of a metallurgical plant in Gaggenau,

    A small clarification - not by 19, but by 29. In 1879, Bergman, who was previously a co-owner of the furnace plant in Constanta (not to be confused with the Romanian Constance), met Michael Flürsheim, the founder of the metallurgical plant in Gaggenau, and became a co-owner of this plant and director ...
  11. +10
    17 October 2021 09: 20
    a metallurgical plant in Gaggenau, which produced a wide range of products ranging from load-bearing beams to household stoves, as well as bicycles and air guns.

    The assortment was really wide - more than 200 items. This is, let's say, Bergman's "business model" - a wide range of high quality products, even hand-assembled.
    Baddenia bicycles were very popular. The factory produced 1880 bicycles from 1908 to 250.
  12. +8
    17 October 2021 09: 31
    I think that Bergmann's "movie about pistols" will not hurt ...

  13. +7
    17 October 2021 09: 37
    The 1893 model had a wedge-locked semi-open breechblock.

    There is an inaccuracy. Not with wedge locking, but with "wedge deceleration". The bolt was decelerated by an inclined plane (wedge) located along the barrel.
    1. +7
      17 October 2021 10: 42
      Quote: Undecim
      but with "wedge deceleration".

      Exactly! It's good that you paid attention. I've also converted, and I even remember that I told myself that I need to explain this. But the hand went to write and ... everything flew out of my head. Then I remembered everything - that I forgot, that ... oh.
      True, I read a little differently: there was a protruding wedge on the trigger. And when he did push-ups to the end, he pressed against the bolt and slowed it down with the force of friction. Such a simple but effective system!
      1. +5
        17 October 2021 15: 24
        I delved into this issue a little, it turned out to be quite interesting. It turns out that in the first photo in the article, this is not a model of 1893 with a wedge deceleration, but Bergmann Schmeisser No.1 Modell 1894, which already used the principle of a free shutter without any deceleration.
        And the initial model of 1892/1893, which used a slow-motion shutter, was produced in very small quantities, that is, in fact, it was a prototype.
        This pistol is pictured below.
        1. +2
          17 October 2021 15: 50
          Interestingly, I have not met this image.
          1. +4
            17 October 2021 16: 15
            And I have not met. In order to fully understand the early samples, you need to find the book by Wilson, RK Textbook of Automatic Pistols. Samworth, 1934. I haven't found it on the net yet, and in the USA I have no "ends".
            1. +3
              17 October 2021 17: 00
              Quote: Undecim
              and in the USA I have no "ends".

              There are no such "ends" to ask to find there either. But what if someone from the readers of VO "Americans" will respond, so to speak?
  14. +4
    17 October 2021 11: 39

    Bergmann's pistol arr. 1894 did not appear like that for nothing! The trend, however! Fashion-sss! Here are some examples!



    The first two pistols, however, are not "automatic"; but pay attention to the "style"!
    Or here ... Who does not know the famous Lugers-Parabellums? But the creation of these "handsome men" was inspired by such a "goat"!
  15. +1
    17 October 2021 12: 59
    Comrades, Theodore Bergman, Winchester were 100% not gunsmiths, and we forgot what they did before. We perceive them as gunsmiths.
    An interesting detail: "Winchester's dad" Henry was successful or not, but still independently, what he did.
    And Otto Brvuwettr, what happened to him?
    PS. In fact, Bergman risked: what if Schmeisser turns out to be a charlotan?
    At that time, whoever was not there: crazy "unrecognized geni" and charlottes and talents
  16. +1
    17 October 2021 13: 50
    But ... everything was outweighed by the power of tradition and habit.

    One more thing could have played - a police weapon, according to the mind, accuracy is needed - so that the peace man does not shoot. And this weight distribution is still used in bullet shooting.

    The magazine in front of the fingers reduces the toss of the barrel. On the rest - weights are hung on the trunk. So it turns out that Bergman with Mauser is somehow more accurate than the kurguz PPK. Well, exactly in the case when you need to make several shots quickly
  17. +3
    17 October 2021 14: 30
    And I wondered why the samples of weapons from the London Royal Armories are presented in scraps of black paper? Is this a tradition?
    1. +5
      17 October 2021 15: 51
      Quote: 3x3zsave
      in scraps of black paper?

      Yes, this is how they photograph their exhibits intended for mass use. If you want without paper - pay!
      1. +4
        17 October 2021 19: 16
        That is, they hire some kind of rogue (but necessarily, who owns a shabby ruler) so that he overlaid the exhibit with inaccurately cut pieces of black paper, with the goal of benefiting many other rogue with a photograph of this exhibit, but incriminating the audience in rogue. How difficult is British philanthropy!
        1. +4
          17 October 2021 19: 55
          Exactly! And if you want a photo for printing - tell the curator of the department the number of the exhibit, negotiate a price and everything will be for you.
          1. +3
            17 October 2021 19: 59
            How much do they ask for an official photo?
            1. +4
              17 October 2021 20: 04
              I didn't ask. As they say, do not wake up smartly while sleeping quietly. And so much time is spent on correspondence.
              1. +3
                17 October 2021 20: 08
                And so much time is spent on correspondence.
                In your case, I agree.
  18. 0
    17 October 2021 18: 55
    Good article, many thanks to the author again! And for some reason, Bergman's pistols themselves strongly remind me of PP Cedar.
    1. +4
      17 October 2021 19: 56
      And they will be even more wonderful!
  19. +1
    18 October 2021 05: 51
    IMHO, just beautiful. Even without mentioning TTD