Lavrov denied France's accusations of deploying Russian PMC Wagner in Mali

The Russian authorities have nothing to do with the contacts of the Mali authorities with a private military company (PMC) from Russia. According to Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, the authorities of the African country have invited PMC fighters to fight terrorism.

The head of the Russian foreign policy department spoke at the UN General Assembly in New York, after which he answered several questions at a press conference, including the accusation of the Russian authorities in sending Russian troops to Mali. As Lavrov explained, Moscow has nothing to do with this, this is an agreement between the state and a private military company.

This activity is carried out on a legal basis and concerns the relationship between the host - this is a legitimate government, which is recognized by all as a legitimate and transitional structure - and those who offer services through foreign specialists

- said the Russian minister, adding that the Malian authorities intend to fight terrorists with the help of PMCs, since France is withdrawing its troops from this country.

But the Prime Minister of the African country Shogel Kokalla Maiga bluntly said that France "abandoned" Mali and against this background the authorities were forced to look for other forces capable of maintaining the security of the state and fighting terrorists. At the same time, he stressed that Paris had decided to withdraw its troops from Mali unilaterally.

Earlier, Paris threatened to finally withdraw its military contingent from Mali if "Russian mercenaries" appeared in the country. French Foreign Minister Jean-Yves Le Drian generally threatened "serious consequences" if PMC "Wagner" entered this African country.

Note that Mali is one of the poorest countries in Africa, part of which is controlled by Islamic groups. France has been keeping its military contingent in the country for quite a long time, claiming that it is fighting the Islamists. Despite the losses and the closure of several military bases, Paris is not going to finally withdraw its military contingent, and the reason here is not a desire to help the legitimate government, but in the impressive reserves of minerals, primarily gold.

Comments

[1976AG]

We ought to send this PMC to Serbia.

[Peak]

Lavrov denied France's accusations of deploying Russian PMC Wagner in Mali

There, in general, everything is VERY interesting, and around Mali as a particular and, and throughout Africa as a whole .

[alex neym_2]

Well, how does it turn out: the guys beat you in the face, and we go home for help? If anyone comes to protect you - chase them in the neck, they are not from our company!

[Stas157]

As Lavrov explained, Moscow has nothing to do with it

Yes. You can even wet them, as under Deir Ez-Zor. Nobody will cry. Those who are hired by the chef are not recognized as their own. This is his personal initiative. And he gets huge funds out of his own pocket to support a private army! Keep this in mind guys before hiring.

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Stas157

Keep this in mind guys before hiring.

Stas agrees. Semin has an interesting opinion.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: PiK

There, in general, everything is VERY interesting, and around Mali as a particular and, and throughout Africa as a whole

The part of Africa that was part of the CFA zone is getting out of control. The blow to France is very sensitive.

[Charik]

Baby, your place is at the bucket, I would like such an answer towards the frog-eaters.

[Flooding]

Quote: 1976AG

We ought to send this PMC to Serbia.

Serbia does not need private military support, but international political support.

[1976AG]

Quote: Flood

Quote: 1976AG

We ought to send this PMC to Serbia.

Serbia does not need private military support, but international political support.

Sometimes the presence of thugs perfectly discourages the desire to climb where it is not necessary. Ultimately, the result is more important.

[Flooding]

Quote: 1976AG

We ought to send this PMC to Serbia.

Serbia is not that rich
and national pride will not allow mercenaries to attract

[figwam]

Quote: Flood

national pride will not allow mercenaries to attract

If necessary, volunteers will help.

[Flooding]

Quote: figvam

If necessary, volunteers will help.

volunteers are needed anytime, anywhere
but for some reason they are always lacking

[isv000]

Quote: figvam

If necessary, volunteers will help.

The main thing here is not to interfere with the Union of Volunteers of Russia, to convince patrons of art to help financially, and to organize charter flights for vacationers - as battalions are formed ...

[Cowbra]

How, however, the Europeys become aware when their own weapons and their rhetoric are used against them))) You can still remember how the French in Libya, purely by chance, supplied Gaddafi's opponents with weapons. They say we didn’t want to, we accidentally dropped it in the wrong place))) And in the same way, throw something festive on the kumpol

[Trapp1st]

Lavrov denied France's accusations of deploying Russian PMC Wagner in Mali

[svp67]

Earlier in Paris they threatened ...

So, you didn't have to, "comrade partners", climb into the territory of our interests, but now get it ... according to Newton's third law, action is equal to opposition

[Dart2027]

Well, what will the fans say to shout that PMCs are immoral, there should only be an army, etc. etc.?

[Flooding]

Quote: Dart2027

Well, what will the fans say to shout that PMCs are immoral, there should only be an army, etc. etc.?

who could say such nonsense?
mercenaries have always been held in high esteem

[Dart2027]

Quote: Flood

who could say such nonsense?

Open any article about the need for PMCs and see the comments.

[Trapp1st]

Well, what will the fans say to shout that PMCs are immoral?

Wagner is not exactly the Cheka in the usual sense, I may be wrong, but she surrenders mainly on state contracts. This is indirectly confirmed by their work in violation of article of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation Art. 359.

[Flooding]

Quote: Trapp1st

Wagner is not quite the Cheka

or rather not the Cheka at all

[Dart2027]

Quote: Trapp1st

Wagner is not quite the Cheka in the usual sense, I may be wrong, but she surrenders mainly on state contracts.

Do you believe in independent PMCs? That is, they earn with left orders when there is an opportunity, but any of them goes under some kind of state and its interests are in priority.

[carstorm 11]

This is a business and not a moral issue. You just need to clearly share the fact that they are just earning there and not serving the country. Demand creates supply. Interests may coincide with the proposal and the state takes advantage of this. But they are not soldiers, but mercenaries, which means they do not represent the country. Just a tool.

[Dart2027]

Quote: carstorm 11

This is a business and not a moral issue.

The question is whose business.

Quote: carstorm 11

But they are not soldiers, but mercenaries, which means they do not represent the country.

Officially not, that's the point.

[carstorm 11]

And whose difference is there?))) These PMCs are registered in Hong Kong or Singapore. Or somewhere else. From this we conclude that they represent them?) I have an extremely negative attitude to mercenaries. But I understand that they are apparently necessary. This is my personal opinion, of course.

[Dart2027]

Quote: carstorm 11

Whose difference is there?))

Quote: Dart2027

Do you believe in independent PMCs? That is, they earn with left orders when there is an opportunity, but any of them goes under some kind of state and its interests are in priority.

Officially, this is prohibited here, but in fact Wagner walks under our intelligence or the Ministry of Defense.

[cniza]

Paris is not going to finally withdraw its military contingent, and the reason here is not a desire to help the legitimate government, but in the impressive reserves of minerals, primarily gold.

Everything is the same, just to rob ...

[Seryoga64]

Quote: cniza

Everything is the same, just to rob ...

Well, after all, you can't tear it off

[cniza]

So not only they, but all Western democrats are doing just that ...

[Alien From]

I agree with you! Rob the loot. Let these jackals devour each other there.

[cniza]

And they do not look for other options, and they do not know how to do otherwise ...

[tralflot1832]

The good news is that there are PMCs, but no one has seen them. Only in words, hundreds of them are being killed.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Why should the Foreign Minister comment on the actions of a private company? He did not establish it, recruit employees, did not produce it. I did not sign a service agreement.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Why should the Foreign Minister comment on the actions of a private company?

The claim was presented to Russia

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

So what?. In this case, claims must be presented to the leadership of the PMC and the leadership of Mali. MFA then here, which side? .. Our MFA put on bulletproof vests and runs around Mali? .. Learn from Psaki. She turned on the fool and smiled sweetly.

[for]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

Why should the Foreign Minister comment on the actions of a private company?

Well, maybe not him, and after all, PMCs seem to be prohibited by law.

[tralflot1832]

And if a company is registered, for example, in Hong Kong?

[for]

Quote: tralflot1832

And if a company is registered, for example, in Hong Kong?

Let them apply there. Lavrov would have sent them there and there would have been no need to answer.

[BARKAS]

What Wagner is just shooting the sequel to the film "Tourist" the French in vain Alarmed.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: BARKAS

just filming the sequel to the film "Tourist"

Or maybe we came on a safari ...

[Friend]

Lavrov refuted accusations of France in the deployment of the Russian PMC "Wagner" in Mali

According to Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, the authorities of the African country invited PMC fighters to fight terrorism.

Denied?

[svp67]

Quote: Friend

Denied?

Oh ... completely in Ukraine they have forgotten how to understand the Russian language ... PROFIT and POSTED this one action, but only INVITED, another ...
So Lavrov is right

[Friend]

Using your logic, we can say that Lavrov talked to himself. Because,

answered several questions, including on the accusation of the Russian authorities of direction

I mean, nobody blamed the placement.

[Friend]

It turned out to flash wit, but you can't enter the dialogue?))) Good luck in the comments.

[Evil troll]

Well, yes, I denied it.

[Bogalex]

And someone can explain, since when has the activity of private military companies in the Russian Federation been carried out "on a legal basis"? When did they manage to abolish this article 359 "Mercenary" in our Criminal Code?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Bogalex

And someone can explain, since when has the activity of private military companies in the Russian Federation been carried out "on a legal basis"? When did they manage to abolish this article 359 "Mercenary" in our Criminal Code?

And from no one.
There is no PMC in Russia. There are security firms.
And that notorious "Wagner" is not a Russian legal entity.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Jacket in stock

And that notorious "Wagner" is not a Russian legal entity.

Not a legal entity at all. "PMC" means a certain form of organization. Nothing here. Phantom.

[svp67]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Not a legal entity at all.

Stupidity, this is a private company legally registered in Cyprus ..

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: svp67

Stupidity, this is a private company legally registered in Cyprus ..

What kind of company?

[svp67]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

What kind of company?

What we know as PMC Wagner. They often change their name, but nevertheless they are legally formalized.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: svp67

What we know as PMC Wagner. They often change their name, but nevertheless they are legally formalized.

How often? Name at least one.

[svp67]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Name at least one.

Moran security group

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: svp67

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Name at least one.

Moran security group

MSG is registered in Belize, not Cyprus. How did you decide that she and Utkin's group are one and the same?

[41 REGION]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

MSG is registered in Belize, not Cyprus. How did you decide that she and Utkin's group are one and the same?

For what purpose are you interested in

[g1v2]

Well, for starters, they are not registered as PMCs, but as security companies. Officially, no one is at war, but only guards and trains. Plus there is another trick. Mercenary activity is prohibited where we are not involved in the conflict. And where we participate - all this is completely legal. That is, in Syria and the Central African Republic there are our military personnel officially and private traders can work there without consequences.
Considering how much PR went to the musicians (some films have already been shot 3), most likely all this will somehow be legalized. The only thing that the hands are not interested in the crowds of downs who decided to play the soldier of fortune. But the unofficial military resource in the capacity of a controlled formation, which at the same time is not servicemen and can be used where we are not, has already proved its effectiveness.
But of course, most likely this topic is carried out through the special services. Considering where the musicians train and where their hands are from, the topic is clearly controlled by the GU GSh MO.

[tralflot1832]

I think the most important thing is not to get on TV, in terms of news.

[Jacket in stock]

And in this regard, I wonder what makes people enroll in these same PMCs.
Well, what kind of a loser in life do you have to be to leave everything at home like this and go to a foreign country to a foreign war?
Or an impenetrable cannibal?

[tralflot1832]

And why a loser. How many of our military served in the French Legion in the 90s. How many volunteers got off the couch and went to fight in Serbia? A loser in war, does not live long.

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: tralflot1832

Why a failure. How many of our military served in the French Legion in the 90s

Duc and therefore went to the French, because no one needed nafig at home.

How many volunteers got off the couch and went to fight in Serbia?

This romantics stood up for the "brothers", did not tolerate when the little ones were offended.

I left the hut, went to fight,
To give the land in Grenada to the peasants ...

[tralflot1832]

And now we have experience of the 90s. And rightly so!

[Ros 56]

And our entire army is sheer losers? Something sweeps you around the bends. People make money in this case. And how do you assess our participation in Spain in the 36th year, in Vietnam in the 60s, and many places around the world have been, even such bison as Sechin, although he recently became a bison, and is Syria an example to you?

[Jacket in stock]

Quote: Ros 56

How would you rate our participation in Spain in the 36th year, in Vietnam in the 60s?

Well, they compared it.
We went there not about money at all, there was an idea.

And our entire army is sheer losers?

In the eyes of the urban middle class, yes.
This did not serve the generation of my parents - it means not a man. And even then, with different options. And already in my conscious youth it was already so, did not cut it - a goof.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Jacket in stock

We went there not about money at all, there was an idea.

Come on, there was an order, not an idea, no need to romanticize. It's about our military experts, isn't it?

[Kittymoore]

Do you think people with a good education and a Moscow residence permit go there?

[CommanderDIVA]

The French will not give up Africa without a fight, this is their fiefdom, the actions of the French and their proxies against the Wagner PMC are quite likely, as the Americans acted in Syria, when trying to seize oil rigs by a PMC detachment, the PMC leadership should take this factor into account when planning military operations in Mali, but the very idea of ​​penetration of Russian transnational corporations deep into Africa with the support of PMCs I like

[agoran]

Yes hz, there are two options, or narrow-eyed people will buy everything or the private security company will pick it up for themselves.
The Franks have more difficult problems to solve with zaluzhnikov.
In Algeria, the Franks, at one time crap on a large scale.

[Yaro Polk]

Their friends, the Anglo-Saxons, threw 60.000.000.000, and they all think about Russia)

[Ros 56]

Does Mali belong to the paddling pool? Why is Lavrov making excuses, he knows how to answer?

[Klingon]

Quote: carstorm 11

And whose difference is there?))) These PMCs are registered in Hong Kong or Singapore. Or somewhere else. From this we conclude that they represent them?) I have an extremely negative attitude to mercenaries. But I understand that they are apparently necessary. This is my personal opinion, of course.

The French also have their own mercenaries - foreign legion

[Pankrat25]

I disagree! You cannot put an equal sign between a foreign legion and a private military company.

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Stas157

As Lavrov explained, Moscow has nothing to do with it

Yes. You can even wet them, as under Deir Ez-Zor. Nobody will cry. Those who are hired by the chef are not recognized as their own. This is his personal initiative. And he gets huge funds out of his own pocket to support a private army! Keep this in mind guys before hiring.

Right! The official statement sounds especially strange, given the more than muddy situation with PMCs from the point of view of Russian legislation ...

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Dart2027

Quote: carstorm 11

Whose difference is there?))

Quote: Dart2027

Do you believe in independent PMCs? That is, they earn with left orders when there is an opportunity, but any of them goes under some kind of state and its interests are in priority.

Officially, this is prohibited here, but in fact Wagner walks under our intelligence or the Ministry of Defense.

H.Z. under whom or what they walk ...

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Klingon

Quote: carstorm 11

And whose difference is there?))) These PMCs are registered in Hong Kong or Singapore. Or somewhere else. From this we conclude that they represent them?) I have an extremely negative attitude to mercenaries. But I understand that they are apparently necessary. This is my personal opinion, of course.

The French also have their own mercenaries - foreign legion

No, the legal status of a foreign legion and a PMC is not the same!

[Paul_Zibert]

The Russian authorities have nothing to do with the fact that the Texas authorities have called on private PMCs to protect their citizens.))

[hwostatij]

Nowadays it is fashionable to kick the French - we have started ours, we will support

[zwlad]

So what. Russia has been taught to comply with international legislation so many times that in the end our departments have learned how to use them (laws).

[Kittymoore]

I noticed that many in the comments condemn the mercenaries and the very idea of ​​PMCs. From a moral point of view, everything is correct. However, let's not forget that Russia is a capitalist state.
And what is the highest stage of capitalism? Right. Imperialism.
Accordingly, like any imperialist state, Russia needs tools to penetrate new markets and protect its interests. The common practice of the "leading" capitalist states

And the advantages are considerable for the state as a whole.
1. Citizens who are ready to kill for the money can be sent abroad, where they will combine business with pleasure. And they will not stagger through the streets.
2. The country is relieved of all responsibility for their actions, even if they are lawless.
3. The public resonance that always arises when “our boys” returns in coffins is removed. Uncomfortable questions arise, pacifist traitors open their mouths. Inconveniently shorter.
Who cares about mercenaries?
4. Any force can be sent and any losses incurred. The state does not give benefits, pensions to "ichtamnet" and is not responsible for them, as for ordinary soldiers.

Consequently, PMCs are a natural tool necessary for the aggressive expansion of their own influence.

It's okay (c)

[agoran]

Very interesting topic.
In the US, except for several PDS (which earned in Afghans ~ $ 45 billion), and losses about 1500, well, who will consider Latinov and Niggro for a passport.
There are private companies working there to monitor the threats to minke whales.
Yankees always count money, erroneous data - gouged a wedding.
In the region of the Kabul airport, the civilians were gouged.
Hence the question about Zadornov, are you stupid?

[Pankrat25]

Those. French people can stay in Africa, but ours can't? Interesting logic.

[Vdi73]

No need to refute, you need to send to ...! Some mischief Barel approached Lavrov and said, not literally, Africa is a zone of our interests and Russia has nothing to do there, I don’t know what Lavrov answered, he did not comment on his answer, but it was necessary to respond very rudely to such impudence, without diplomacy ...