In Ukraine: In the Black Sea, Russia provoked Ukrainian warships

In the Black Sea, Russia allegedly provoked Ukrainian warships. This happened during the strategic maneuvers "United Efforts-2021".

This is reported by the "Ukrainian military portal" with reference to the representative of the Maritime Independent Trade Union of Ukraine Boris Babin.

He claims that a Russian ship approached the Gorlovka ship of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He allegedly tried to find out what the Ukrainians were doing here, using the channel by means of radio communication. Ukrainian media claim that the Russians approached, violating the rules of radio traffic and hiding their callsign and nationality.

Then, according to Babin, the Russian border patrol ship Izumrud began to approach the closed area. He allegedly moved across the path to the patrol boat "Slavyansk".

Since this Ukrainian Island-class boat is highly maneuverable, the ships went stern at a distance of one mile.

- says the publication.

And then, according to the Ukrainian portal, the missile cruiser "Moskva", which is the flagship of the Black Sea fleet RF. He, according to journalists, demonstrated "the maximum level of aggravation of the situation on the part of Russia."

A day earlier, Ukraine accused Russian military aircraft Il-20 and Su-24MR of appearing in the exercise area in the Black Sea. At this time, the military say, the air defense calculations of the Armed Forces conducted anti-aircraft missile firing there.

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[Cat Alexandrovich]

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine? Just provoking? How's that?

[Tomich_1987]

Apparently the answer on the radio.

[Seryoga64]

Did they provoke you with mate?

[Tatyana]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just didn't understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of Ukraine into? Just provoking? How's that?

Ukraine is like a monkey with a grenade, and there is no need to provoke! She, playing with weapons, herself does not know what she is doing. (Sarcasm.)

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Tatiana

and no need to provoke!

They themselves will invent and inflate a provocation to cosmic proportions.
And there will be a stench ... (Not a joke)

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Seryoga64

Did they provoke you with mate?

With one sight of the Russian flag ... They were also told that VMsuk is a super duper drooper fleet! ... And here ... Here ... Now I can’t eat, go to the toilet a little more .. Constipation from fear ... And dumbness with anger ...

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

As I understand it, ours are chasing the forelock in the Black Sea, both in the tail and in the mane. Judging by the political and economic "changes" of Ukraine, the Sumerians will eventually have to move to Kryzhopol, to the local reservoir.

[Grits]

Quote: Andrey Nikolaevich

the Sumerians will have to, over time, move to Kryzhopol, to the local reservoir.

They are deployed to the local reservoir only when the entire territory up to Odessa itself is under our control or in the form of the state of Novorossia. But our management missed this chance in 2014

[Orange bigg]

... In Ukraine: In the Black Sea, Russia provoked Ukrainian warships

Russia did not provoke, but laughed, and not at the Ukrainian warships, but at the Ukrainian boats and boats.

... According to information leaked to the Ukrainian media, it is possible to put a final point on the local "naval forces". The only ship, which, albeit with a very big stretch, could be ranked among its combat-ready units, which is also the flagship of the naval naval "nezalezhnoy" - the frigate "Getman Sagaidachny" came into a state of complete and final disrepair. Attempts to "reanimate" it, now being undertaken at one of the Ukrainian ship-repair enterprises, hardly have a chance of success.

If it still fails to return the "beauty and pride" of the Ukrainian Navy, the country will remain with a miserable "mosquito fleet" consisting of small-sized vessels transferred to it by overseas "allies" and seemingly much newer, but not withstanding any critics of boats of local construction. Well, and also - with rubber boats, which Kiev also got in the form of handouts from the "North Atlantic partners".

For "Sagaidachny", truly, a "black streak" has come - one breakdown followed another, not individual units, but the entire life support systems of the ship began to fail. Meanwhile, despite the fact that its wear was rapidly approaching a critical point, the leadership of the Ukrainian Navy "drove" the only one more or less similar to a warship wherever possible. Exercises with the Americans and other NATO countries, the number of which in the Black Sea area increased sharply during those years, followed almost one after the other: Sea Shield, Sea Breeze and others, and others. Everything ended more than naturally - in 2017, the "heart" of the ship, its undercarriage, could not stand it. The most interesting thing was that the engine of "Sagaidachny" was finally "covered" exactly after the "planned overhaul" carried out the day before. When the prosecutor's office became interested in such an exceptional quality of "repair work", it turned out that the funds allocated for them in the amount of 1.6 million hryvnias (4.4 million rubles) were simply stolen in the most shameless way by the management of the shipyard. True, in the end, the criminal case initiated in the heat of the moment did not reach the court, somehow "falling apart", but the "frigate" was not any easier from all this - it had to be repaired anew.

This time in Kiev they decided to get down to business seriously - for the "repair and modernization" of this "beauty and pride" the Ukrainian Navy has allocated as much as 91 million budgetary hryvnia (250 million rubles). This was done by a special government decree within the framework of the "program for the development of weapons and equipment" of the Ukrainian army and navy. How much of this amount was stolen is not known for certain and is unlikely to ever be found out. However, the fact is that the long-suffering ship, which after that, with a sin in half, took part in several more exercises and "presentations", this year again found itself at the quay wall of one of Nikolaev's shipyards. At the same time, the "Getman Sagaidachny" arrived there in tow, since by that time it had completely lost its course. This, of course, says a lot about the quality of the next "repair" of his engine. As far as we know, what to do next with the "flagship" in Ukraine do not know. Undercarriage overhaul without spare parts manufactured only and exclusively in Russia is impossible in principle. Changing the engine on a ship built 30 years ago, where almost everything that can break down has failed, is absolutely inappropriate. The construction of a similar, only new one, will probably cost less.

It is highly probable that the last "hetman" will go to scrap metal after his brothers.

https://topcor.ru/21734-ukraina-terjaet-svoj-poslednij-boevoj-korabl.html

[Tomich_1987]

Hat-covering is a very dangerous thing.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Hat-covering is a very dangerous thing.

And missile launching is even more dangerous, especially if these are the Vulcan anti-ship missiles, the Onyx anti-ship missiles, the Caliber anti-ship missiles or the Kh-35U, Kh-31AD and X-32 airborne anti-ship missiles.

[Tomich_1987]

Let's say the Americans also thought that they would win with missiles and bombs the Vietnamese yellow monkeys with Kalash. And that's how it came out.

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Let's say the Americans also thought that they would win with missiles and bombs the Vietnamese yellow monkeys with Kalash. And that's how it came out.

Such insults on racial grounds are completely unacceptable. In the 21st century we live all the same, and not in the Middle Ages, however, the Middle Ages apparently did not end. "and to them air defense systems with planes, otherwise Vietnam itself would not have sucked. The US responded with the same coin already in Afghanistan, supplying Stingers and many other things through Pakistan and Iran, and at the same time volunteers to fight on the side of the Mujahideen.

[Tomich_1987]

Such racial insults

This is not an insult, this is what the Americans called them and were worn accordingly.

[Roman_vh]

Well why answer the troll

[URAL72]

Are you drowning for the Banderlohs, or are you simply demonstrating your extremely narrow horizons? The Vietnamese are far more distant from the Americans than the moon, even today. The citizens of Ukraine are the same Russians, but some of them are wooden to the waist. Above. In the war with Ukraine, the main thing is to quickly form a militia in the occupied territories, then there will not be many losses, and legally Russia will look almost white and fluffy. Let the citizens of Ukraine settle scores among themselves, they just need to be given time and weapons. After that, in Lviv, at the thought of "Bandera, Ukraine, UNA-UNSO, PS", etc., they will shit in their pants for hundreds of years.

[Tomich_1987]

This is me drowning for not underestimating the enemy. Although, for couch warriors, it is permissible. It's not for them to shed blood in the trenches.

[Ovsigovets]

so they were not underestimated)))) look at the missile cruiser, they even drove it .... so they respected them so much ... from the heart straight, bratski

[Ryaruav]

according to you, in 1990 the population of the USSR was wooden to the waist, everything is simple since 1930 the population has completely discouraged the desire to conflict with the authorities, but with the military question, but also just - fat generals live well under any government

[Andrey Chizhevsky]

Be so kind as to explain what is the connection between what was announced by the media about the alleged provocation by the Black Sea Fleet of the Russian Federation and the population whose desire for conflict with the authorities has been discouraged since 1930 (according to your statement).

[gurzuf]

All this is due to the fact that initially the Americans did not live in Vietnam.

[Ros 56]

And how did it happen ???

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Let's say the Americans also thought that they would win with missiles and bombs the Vietnamese yellow monkeys with Kalash. And that's how it came out.

So you do not compare the Vietnamese with the Sumerians. Vietnamese are warriors.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: OrangeBigg

And missile launching is even more dangerous, especially if these are the Vulcan anti-ship missiles, the Onyx anti-ship missiles, the Caliber anti-ship missiles or the Kh-35U, Kh-31AD and X-32 airborne anti-ship missiles.

Is it too wasteful for the island's caliber?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Ashes of Klaas

Quote: OrangeBigg

And missile launching is even more dangerous, especially if these are the Vulcan anti-ship missiles, the Onyx anti-ship missiles, the Caliber anti-ship missiles or the Kh-35U, Kh-31AD and X-32 airborne anti-ship missiles.

Is it too wasteful for the island's caliber?

There are also not only Ukrainian Islands, but there are also larger fish - Americans, British, Italians, etc. And for the Islands, the airborne X-38 is enough. Hang on the same Ka-52 and forward. Range of destruction of 70-80 km in this case behind the eyes.

[Tomich_1987]

Personally, are you ready to press the button to launch missiles on NATO ships knowing that soon all your loved ones will burn in an atomic fire?

[Roman_vh]

So they will burn out. Are you absolutely sure of this?

[Tomich_1987]

And you, apparently, are sure that NATO's nuclear arsenals have rotted.

[Roman_vh]

I'm sure ours didn't rot.

[Tomich_1987]

That is, you personally are ready to unleash a nuclear war?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Personally, are you ready to press the button to launch missiles on NATO ships knowing that soon all your loved ones will burn in an atomic fire?

Do you really think that Armageddon will begin because of a sunken ship, even a military one? I beg you. Because of such a trifle, no one will arrange the Third World War. Let there be a crisis, perhaps a local conflict, but no more.

[Tomich_1987]

So thought Cavtorang B-69 Arkhipov, who did not allow launching a nuclear torpedo. Apparently, his moral and volitional principles were higher than yours.

[avg avg]

Don't compose. Arkhipov just correctly assessed the situation and the level of his moral and volitional qualities has nothing to do with it.

[Flooding]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Do you really think that Armageddon will start because of a sunken ship, even a military one?

cause of world war - most likely not
but even a fired boat can serve as a reason for its start

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: Flood

cause of world war - most likely not
but even a fired boat can serve as a reason for its start

Both wars did not become world wars suddenly and immediately, yes.

[Ashes of Claes]

Quote: OrangeBigg

There are not only Ukrainian Islands, but there are also larger fish - Americans, British, Italians, etc.

Is Defender a big enough fish? Something no one began to throw calibers.

[alexvmar]

That's for sure. There will be enough and accidentally surfaced "mines of the Second World War".

[Xnumx vis]

Media: Russian Aerospace Forces broke into the zone of Ukrainian exercises

2021.09.25 11: 40: 11
A pair of Russian front-line bombers and at least one electronic reconnaissance aircraft of the Russian Aerospace Forces frightened the Ukrainian military
They very unexpectedly appeared in the area of ​​the military exercises of the Armed Forces of Ukraine.

The Ukrainian side stated that the Russian pilots ignored the fact of the closure of the airspace and created serious interference with the operation of the Ukrainian air defense systems. In turn, the Ukrainian Armed Forces practiced hitting targets in the Black Sea.

"IL-20 grossly violated the procedure for the use of airspace, repeatedly flying into the restricted area," - says the official statement of the Ukrainian Air Force, writes avia.pro.https: //sev.tv/news/52544.html? Utm_source = yxnews & utm_medium = desktop

[Serg koma]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Hat-covering is a very dangerous thing.

What does the "shapkozidatelstvo" have to do with it? Objective reality -

Russian ships carried out rocket and artillery firing during exercises in the Black Sea. This was announced by the Black Sea Fleet, Interfax reports.
Maneuvers of the Russian Black Sea Fleet are taking place against the backdrop of exercises in Ukraine with the participation of the United States and a number of NATO countries.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

I said a hundred times and I will repeat, the first one: not the sailors, the Ukrainians! Can not. Not capable. Not given. As part of the crews of Soviet ships, they can. As an independent state, no. Exclusively agriculture. Pig breeding, poultry farming, gardening. And not higher.

[Kittymoore]

Cool argumentation).

[1976AG]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine? Just provoking? How's that?

It is enough just to appear in sight to be accused of provocation. They apparently believe that when Ukrainian ships go to sea, ours should hide from them. And for some reason we were not hiding.

[venik]

"....Since this Ukrainian boat of the "Island" type has high maneuverability, the ships parted aft at a distance one mile..... "
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Well, what "drop dead" maneuverability these "Islands" written off in the USA have, that the valiant Ukrainian sailors managed with difficulty, but nevertheless, to avoid collision with a small border "Emerald" at a distance as much as 2 km! ???

[mmaxx]

Eh, ahead of the comments. American boats are somehow clumsy.
But now, at what distance they show maneuverability. Learned to maneuver in time

[venik]

Quote: mmaxx

Eh, ahead of the comments.

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It does not matter! I - too, more than once "removed from the tongue." The main thing is that there are at least two of us !!!

[Serg koma]

Quote: venik

This is what a "drop dead" maneuverability

Emerald - 670 tons, Slavyansk - 169 tons, hence the maneuverability, they really did not want to get under the stem, because of fear they could not have turned out like that.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine?

But I did not understand what kind of ships they have
I read about boats, read about inflatable boats, but not about coral.
As far as I know, they have only one left

[Orange bigg]

They are like that.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: OrangeBigg

They are like that

And such

[knn54]

- the Russians approached, ... hiding ... STATE affiliation.
A comment of at least a day.
.

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

Yeah. And as soon as they began to curse Ukraine and all its maneuvers, the exceptionally shrewd Ukrainians realized that, despite the "hidden state ownership", the ship was Russian.

[Sidor Amenpodestovich]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine?

The Sugs decided that Russia was bragging. Like, look what I have and what you are sailing on.

[Rubi0]

How is provocation during the war?

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine? Just provoking? How's that?

Anecdote, in Ukraine there is one ship "Sagaidachny" and that one is standing, the rest are boats and rubber boats.

[Grits]

Quote: tihonmarine

the rest are boats and rubber boats.

After this praise in the speed and maneuverability of the "Island" (the deflection is counted), their status will be raised to at least a corvette.

[Terenin]

hiding their callsign and nationality.

What kind of nationality of the puddle can be hidden after the rain between the house of Ivan and Mykola?

[General70]

It's just that the ukrov lost their nerves

[Metallurg_2]

provoked surrender

[Fitter65]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine? Just provoking? How's that?

For diarrhea!

[Tomich_1987]

He allegedly tried to find out what the Ukrainians were doing here, using the channel by means of radio communication.

We just wanted to say hello and ask if we need help. Plain maritime courtesy

[BARKAS]

They promised the teachings correctly, but instead something incomprehensible happened, so it was decided to approach and find out what happened.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: BARKAS

so it was decided to approach and find out what happened.

Help, if anything, in rescuing the crew of the boat, well, or an inflatable boat

[Catfish]

missile cruiser Moskva arrived in the area of ​​maneuvers,

And what could he provoke boats? On what the Elephant provoked Pug?

[Tomich_1987]

And what could he provoke boats

Anything can happen.

[CommanderDIVA]

Do not tell the respectable audience, this is a photo of the American destroyer "Cole" in my opinion after the attack of Islamic fanatics on a boat. board of a Russian warship

[Seryoga64]

and hiding their callsign and nationality.

Have they seen the Russian flag?

the ships parted aft at a distance of one mile

Well, we almost collided
Marasmus

[tovarich-andrey.62goncharov]

Russian ships brazenly provoked-provoked, but did not re-provoke provocateurs ... Wow ...

[Retvizan 8]

Interest, who else in the world still continues to react to this "pig squealing" from Ukraine?

[Nafanya from the sofa]

He claims that a Russian ship approached the Gorlovka ship of the Armed Forces of Ukraine. He seemed to be trying to find out what the Ukrainians are doing here,

Thanks to its maneuverability, the Iceland-class boat was able to maintain its toilet bowls.
Although the Gorlovka crew did not need toilets in this situation. All that they could, ukrvoenmore made in harem pants.

[zenion]

Just like that poor Marusya. Vin znayv z mene panties, pulling out the redzinka and rooting the slingshot. And panties kynuv on pidlog.

[Borisych]

Ships? Military? Ukraine? Gorlovka is a boat, in the bow either PKT or PKK, I don't remember. Well, so that there was something to do on command Weapon for battle! Or clean it.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

They actually have boogers in their noses!

[Victor Tsenin]

These exercises near the internationally recognized, historically and ethnically determined borders of the Russian Federation should be called in literary Russian - United Attempts - 2021. Here they were recently skeptical about the construction of corvettes and art boats for 404, and so "Moscow" will not look after the nonsense, Nevertheless.

[Stepan S]

and so "Moscow" will not look after the nonsense,

Whether the cruiser "Moskva" was there, my grandmother said in two. Uraintsy they are like that, they said and said - "and what is this?"

[Victor Tsenin]

It is also true, but I think there was still, because there are other participants, it's a sin not to clarify)

[Grits]

Quote: Stepan S

Was there a cruiser "Moskva", this is still my grandmother said in two

From fear, any TFR will seem like a cruiser. So - quite ...

[minus]

And who knows how far from the Russian terrorists the exercises took place? Something is not being looked for. Or maybe it was necessary to sink a couple of boats .....)))))

[Tomich_1987]

Not getting up from the couch.

[Seryoga64]

Quote: Minus

Or maybe it was necessary to sink a couple of boats .....)))))

Themselves will soon crumble from old age

[bar]

In the Black Sea, Russia allegedly provoked Ukrainian warships.

And ukrov have warships there ???

[Andrey VOV]

Oh, these fairy tales, oh, these fairy tales!

[tralflot1832]

Nothing happened, just the Black Sea Fleet is conducting counter exercises. 20 ships and submarines are involved. The next screams in the genre should be about the actions of the Russian submarine. About aviation in the morning have already been. Who is the boss in the Black and Azov seas?

[Sergey39]

Another Clinic! (((

[From Tomsk]

But these two planes could end the torment of the entire Ukrainian fleet. No fleet, no problem.

[Tomich_1987]

But why?
If the Americans give Ukraine Ticonderoga, then Russia needs to walk and cherish it. As the saying goes, "if you want to ruin the country - give it a dreadnought."

[xomaNN]

Of course, on uk..r. the boat jittery rose when a growing appeared nearby. combat NK. Suddenly it will press down and - "skiff"

[cniza]

Since this Ukrainian Island-class boat is highly maneuverable, the ships went stern at a distance of one mile.

Except for a smile, nothing causes ...

[Terenin]

Quote: cniza

Since this Ukrainian Island-class boat is highly maneuverable, the ships went stern at a distance of one mile.

Except for a smile, nothing causes ...

So it is written with that.

[Furious bambr]

"And then, according to the Ukrainian portal, the missile cruiser Moskva, which is the flagship of the Russian Black Sea Fleet, arrived in the area of ​​maneuvers."
And then all the nuclear submarines pulled up and Putin flew in with cranes

[Ros 56]

This is reported by the "Ukrainian military portal" with reference to the representative of the Maritime Independent Trade Union of Ukraine Boris Babin.

Well, to report, this is not a bag to carry, This punks reported a lot, and that Babchenko was killed, and he was lying in a pool of pig's blood and much more. Listen to these idiots, do not respect yourself.

[Seamaster]

! ...... provocatively drank "Stolichnaya" vodka in front of the eyes of patients undergoing treatment for alcoholism ... on the ruins of the chapel ... "

[Denis812]

how this Ukrainian Island-class boat is highly maneuverable, the ships went stern at a distance of one mile

Forgive me my naval ignorance, I’m from a makhra myself.
Tell me, please, does the statement above mean that a highly maneuverable boat of the "Island" type showed the stern of the Russian Navy ship? Otherwise, I don’t really understand how even such high-tech sailors as the lads of Ukraine measured the distance from their stern to our ship?

[Viktor Sergeev]

"Ukrainian warships" sounds like an anecdote.

[businessv]

Since this Ukrainian boat of the "Island" type

Ukrainian boat? Like "Island"? Ukrainian drone of "Bayraktar" type, Ukrainian ATGM of "Javelin" type .....

[Kuzmitsky]

Island? Of course, Ukrainian, they modified it! I mean, painted.

[Grits]

Quote: businessv

Since this Ukrainian boat of the "Island" type

Ukrainian boat? Like "Island"? Ukrainian drone of "Bayraktar" type, Ukrainian ATGM of "Javelin" type .....

you forgot the Ukrainian armored personnel carrier

[businessv]

Damn! Sorry, this is unintentional!

[Cowbra]

Someone provoked? "A boat rushes across the water area"?

[Prisoner]

What warships ?!

[faterdom]

They provoked-provoked, but they did not provoke ...

[Terenin]

Quote: faterdom

They provoked-provoked, but they did not provoke ...

And now you will not see a strong army and fleet of free inflatable boats

[Tagan]

Quote: Tomic_1987

Let's say the Americans also thought that they would win with missiles and bombs the Vietnamese yellow monkeys with Kalash. And that's how it came out.

Well, yes, Bandera's men are certainly unsurpassed warriors. Is that only in the fairy tales of Svidomo. But willing to fight for ukroreyh there are few.

[Sands Careers General]

In the Black Sea, Russia provoked Ukrainian warships

A couple of inflatable "zodiacs" provoked?)))

[BABAY22]

The anti-ship missile "Moskva" apparently also concealed its affiliation.

[Shelest2000]

Quote: Cat Alexandrovich

I just did not understand from the text, but what did Russia actually provoke the ships of the Ukraine? Just provoking? How's that?

Poop provoked Judging by the screams - well

[Klingon]

Well, that's right, don't fucking drive horse mackerel in the Black Sea, let them drag their Islands and the rest of the chinks to the Kremenchug VDH, it's just the size for them

[tolmachiev51]

- "by reference to the representative of the Maritime Independent Trade Union of Ukraine Boris Babin" - another esperd !!! You have to understand that the little article will amuse us ..

[variag582]

Ukrainian warships)))))