The President of Poland accused the EU authorities of ideological pressure and forcing the nation to accept alien principles

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The President of Poland accused the EU authorities of ideological pressure and forcing the nation to accept alien principles

Polish President Andrzej Duda allowed himself to openly criticize Brussels. It should be noted that this actually became a continuation of the recent disagreements between the Polish authorities and EU officials. The Polish leadership expresses dissatisfaction with the fact that political and economic directives are coming from Brussels to be implemented. At the same time, Warsaw for some reason does not refuse European concessional loans.

According to Andrzej Duda, the concept of interaction has changed in the European Union.



President of Poland:

If initially the concept of building a single economic community, a community of friendship and harmony was lined up in the EU, then recently all this has been altered. Among other things, the EU is now implementing the concept of ideological pressure and coercion of nations to accept principles alien to them.

Thus, Andrzej Duda directly accused Brussels of following the path of imposing its values ​​and principles on Poland. And what is interesting: when Warsaw receives money from the European treasury, then these principles are more than suitable for it, and when Brussels demands that Warsaw comply with European dogmas (and Poland signed and ratified all conventions in the EU format), then it suddenly became the President of Poland designated as pressure and coercion.

It is worth recalling that the EU has recently formed a number of claims against Poland. For example, Brussels is not satisfied with the format of judicial reform in Poland, the lack of reverence for LGBT people, as well as the strengthening of state control over the media. In addition, Brussels' irritation manifests itself due to the reluctance of the Polish authorities to accept the number of refugees, which is determined by the EU quotas.
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  1. +14
    25 September 2021 08: 25
    Poles, like Ukrainians, are always dissatisfied with everything. The more you feed them, the more they become impudent. Kindness is perceived as weakness, you need to have a short conversation with them: from your feet to the face, so that they know who is the boss.
    1. +12
      25 September 2021 08: 34
      The President of Poland accused the EU authorities of ideological pressure and forcing the nation to accept alien principles

      In how fellow !

      I dare to ask the Poles and the rest of the "European Union" - What did they count on when joining the EU on conditions under which part of the powers of their own states were directly de-ligated to the supranational bureaucratic bodies of the organization?
      1. +8
        25 September 2021 08: 39
        Quote: PiK
        What they were counting on when they joined the EU on conditions under which part of the powers of their own states were directly de-ligated to supranational bureaucratic bodies

        For money, for what else ...
        1. +5
          25 September 2021 09: 01
          Quote: NDR-791
          For money, for what else ...

          Here is the policy of two chairs, only with the EU and the US. Very profitable and not so dangerous, they offer themselves to blackmail the withdrawal of American troops from the FRG. The truth is blackmailing the United States. Missile defense elements have already been deployed. If you compare with prostitutes, then the elite, in contrast to the panel. Well, you understand who laughing In general, the Poles were able to fight off illegal immigrants and gays on these contradictions. Now, of course, Russia will pump them with gas, and the EU is also interested in this. Also, both Germany and Japan have learned to benefit from the occupation. They sharply reduced their military spending, and why, there are Americans here, and without spending money on routine, they are fully developing their advanced military-industrial complex. Trump was beside himself with this. They did not even spend 2% of GDP on defense, so also the structure of spending in opposition to the American military-industrial complex and its supplies, in fact, work on the creation of competitive armored vehicles, aviation and navy. Poland, of course, dreams of this situation, wants to become a beloved wife. With the Marshall Plan, they themselves raised competitors in the industry and are pulling the strap on security, and the US national debt is approaching 30 trillion (already 28,6).
          1. +3
            25 September 2021 09: 15
            Quote: hrych
            If you compare with prostitutes, then the elite, in contrast to the panel.

            No, she's not like that, she's an honest bum ... with principles wassat
            Quote: hrych
            and the US national debt is approaching 30 trillion (already 28,6).

            Already? How fast! I remember the panic was when by 14trl. approached. That was PANIC !!! In general, I propose to open a tote on the topic "at what trillion will this bubble finally burst" drinks
            1. -4
              25 September 2021 13: 52
              Quote: NDR-791
              In general, I propose to open a tote on the topic "at what trillion will this bubble finally burst" drinks

              and on the topic "how many days after that the economy of the Russian Federation will collapse" ... laughing
          2. +1
            25 September 2021 19: 22
            Quote: hrych
            Here is the policy of two chairs, only with the EU and the US. ... In general, the Poles were able to fight off illegal immigrants and gays on these contradictions.

            I always read your comments with interest.
            However, I disagree here. "Alien principles" (gay, BLM, etc.) originated and gained strength just in the States. It is the States that are promoting them in Europe through the European officials bought up on the vine.
            As well as the settlement of the EU by migrants, in order to weaken it - is it clear who benefited from it?
            The Pole bit both giving hands at once. IMHO. bully
        2. 0
          26 September 2021 08: 10
          For money, for what else ..


          Slightly differently: they were counting on a freebie ....
      2. 0
        25 September 2021 09: 01
        Quote: PiK
        What were they counting on when they joined the EU on conditions under which part of the powers of their own states were directly de-ligated to the supranational bureaucratic bodies of the organization?

        I do not like? And how does Russia like to learn how to live? And something require do you like Russia?
        Now chew your vomit
      3. +2
        25 September 2021 10: 19
        Quote: PiK
        What were they counting on when they joined the EU on conditions under which part of the powers of their own states were directly de-ligated to the supranational bureaucratic bodies of the organization?

        They expected to receive money from the EU, (and not small ones) but to be independent and independent from the EU.
        But in the hen house there are always roosters that are in command and chickens that obey the roosters, but there are also chickens that sit on the lower rostrum, on which the hens pooping on top. So the Poles are those chickens that sit below, but there is also the lowest perch, to which all the dissatisfied chickens are sent and on which all the chickens and roosters poop.
        1. +4
          25 September 2021 10: 23
          Quote: tihonmarine
          But in the hen house there are always roosters that are in command and chickens that obey the roosters, but there are also chickens that sit on the lower rostrum, on which the hens pooping on top.


          How is it about Poland Yes Yes Yes

        2. +2
          25 September 2021 13: 11
          Quote: tihonmarine
          They expected to receive money from the EU, (and not small ones) but to be independent and independent from the EU.

          "Bright" Polish heads will already faint that it was a payment for access to the Polish market
          In discussions, we very often hear, especially from Western politicians, that Poland treats the EU like an ATM, that Poland receives European funds because "everyone wants to help Poland." But we are not shown the whole context: when we joined the EU, funds were guaranteed for access to the Polish market ”

          and in general, since joining the EU (2004), Poland has lost about 535 billion zlotys (115 billion euros), that is, the EU received more from cooperation with the Poles than they did ... and if you recall
          The professor reproaches the Polish authorities for the fact that Warsaw announces its claims too timidly and cautiously. He, like many in Poland, calls for more often demanding reparations from Berlin for World War II .html
          1. +2
            25 September 2021 14: 00
            [quote = BrTurin] He, like many in Poland, calls for more often demanding reparations from Berlin for the Second World War https://topwar.ru/186721-v-polshe-prizyvajut-pochasche-trebovat-ot-berlina-reparacij-za- vtoruju-mirovuju-vojnu.html [/ quote] [/ quote]
            What about the return of the German lands of the FRG?
            In Soviet times, with the assistance of the USSR, an agreement was reached between the German Democratic Republic and the People's Republic of Poland, on the refusal of claims to each other as a result of WWII ...
            I think the FRG will pay reparations to Poland in return for the return of the eastern lands of Germany, although in the EU the FRG will boycott any financial assistance to Poland ...
    2. +5
      25 September 2021 08: 40
      Diluted, you know, democracy in the European Union. wink
      1. -2
        25 September 2021 09: 05
        Quote: Mole
        Diluted, you know, democracy in the European Union.

        Breeding democracy with the help of AUG around the world by selling exclusively mattresses
    3. +1
      25 September 2021 10: 06
      In general, it is true. But you missed one detail: Polish toilets are washed by Ukrainians, and not vice versa.
      1. -3
        25 September 2021 10: 22
        ... “Poland will receive about 125 billion euros in direct subsidies. This is an amount that has never been, ”said the Prime Minister of Poland and added that together with loans, the total amount will be approximately € 160 billion.


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/3015454.html

        This is only in 2020, and since 2004 Poland has received trillions of euros in subsidies from the EU. That is why Poles live richer than Ukrainians.
    4. +2
      25 September 2021 11: 20
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      from his feet in the face, so that they know who is the boss.

      Let me ask you, do you know the meaning of the word: "Piet"? This is a deep respect, respectful attitude towards someone, something.
      Therefore, do you think that one should kick in the face to those for whom the ideology of homosexuality and sodomy are unnatural?
      Brussels is not satisfied with the format of judicial reform in Poland, lack of piety towards LGBT people

      ==========
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      always unhappy with everything. The more you feed them, the more they become impudent.

      If only they didn't feed them hot dogs ...
    5. +2
      25 September 2021 12: 25
      So Vuiks Galichagi and Poles are of the same berry field, or rather the product of a speech
      1. -1
        25 September 2021 14: 15
        Quote: Rubi0
        So Vuiks Galichagi and Poles are of the same berry field, or rather the product of a speech

        Ukrainians and Poles are essentially one people, only with different religions, like Croatians-Catholics and Serbs-Orthodox. Those who know the Polish language know that Ukrainian and Polish are one language, only Ukrainian in Cyrillic, and Polish in Latin.
        1. +1
          25 September 2021 18: 10
          Hello garage! :)
          There are Western Ukrainians. There are Carpathian Ukrainians. There are Eastern Ukrainians.
          It is not necessary to say that ALL Ukrainians are one nation with the Poles.
          I can PARTIALLY agree for all sorts of Lvivs there - yes, there are many similarities.
          But you come to Uzhgorod or Mukachevo, go out there in the old place and push your theory to the townsfolk.
          I think that they will quickly explain to you that you are wrong.

          Second, the difference between Polish and Ukrainian is about the same as the difference between Russian and Ukrainian.
          I've been from St. Petersburg, I have been to Ukraine dozens of times, I always understood them without problems - even in Kiev, even in Rovno. But he moved to Poland and broke off - Polish is much further from Russian than Ukrainian.
          Although, of course, these are closely related languages. And people from Western Ukraine take the Polish B1 exam without any particular problems. But I had to sweat a little
          1. -2
            26 September 2021 00: 16
            Quote: Denis812
            Second, the difference between Polish and Ukrainian is about the same as the difference between Russian and Ukrainian.

            Don't write nonsense. This surzhik is close to Russian, as it is a Little Russian dialect of the Russian language. But the modern Ukrainian language was created by the Galician Hrushevsky on the basis of the Galician dialect of the Polish language. Therefore, the modern Ukrainian language is the same Polish language, it is not for nothing that the Galicians are so drawn to Poland, since there is no language barrier for them in Poland.
            1. 0
              26 September 2021 12: 32
              In my opinion, you inattentively read what I wrote.
              I can PARTIALLY agree for all sorts of Lvivs there - yes, there are many similarities.

              these have - yes, the language is similar to Polish. And the rest, who are from Kiev and other Dnepropetrovsk, 90% cannot just come and take the B1 exam. :) Otherwise I wouldn't have so many courses and groups for learning Polish in my company. And such a massive presence of Ukrainians at them.
              There is also a significant difference between Ukrainian and Polish.
              You turn on the TV set and watch - any Russian can understand Ukrainian television quite quickly
              But Polish TV won't come so easily to you :)
              Because Ukrainian and Polish are DIFFERENT and Ukrainian is much closer to Russian.
  2. +20
    25 September 2021 08: 27
    Duda is a crossover. Something like Lukashenka reminds.
    - Brothers, give money, brotherly!
    - On. Will you do something for us in return?
    - No. And don't put pressure on us. We are an independent country.
  3. +3
    25 September 2021 08: 32
    The EU is committed to the principles of friendship, love and mutual penetration without coercion! Without coercion, but for the money! What are the lispers not happy with! laughing
  4. +4
    25 September 2021 08: 34
    Dudik's head weakened. The other day he again said that the US president is Trump)))
    1. +5
      25 September 2021 08: 51
      Quote: Cowbra
      Dudik's head weakened. The other day he again said that the US president is Trump)))

      Slept on personal affection Yes .
      1. -2
        25 September 2021 09: 07
        Quote: PiK
        Slept on personal affection

        I'm embarrassed to ask which one? feel
      2. +1
        25 September 2021 11: 07
        Quote: PiK
        Slept on personal affection.

        Before the new president of 2024, I caved in.
    2. +1
      25 September 2021 09: 06
      Quote: Cowbra
      The other day he again said that the US president is Trump)))

      Wanguet probably laughing
  5. +1
    25 September 2021 08: 36
    - Brussels is not satisfied with the format of judicial reform in Poland, the lack of reverence for LGBT people, as well as the strengthening of state control over the media. In addition, Brussels' irritation manifests itself due to the reluctance of the Polish authorities to accept the number of refugees, which is determined by the EU quotas.
    Poles lack "tolerance", What can you do.
    As for the refugees.
    It is relatively easy, for example, for a Ukrainian to get a "Card of a Pole" if he had Poles in his family. The EU stubbornly ignores this fact or does not want to consider Ukrainians / Belarusians as refugees.
    It's just that the Poles want to be the titular nation in their country, WHAT SOMEONE (?) Really doesn't like ..
    1. +1
      25 September 2021 09: 09
      Quote: knn54
      Brussels is not satisfied with the format of judicial reform in Poland, the lack of reverence for LGBT people, as well as the strengthening of state control over the media.

      There is also a problem with the CHP. Poles are forced to close them, but they are not. Other heat sources are in short supply
      1. +2
        25 September 2021 09: 34
        Quote: Seryoga64
        There is also a problem with the CHP. Poles are forced to close them, but they are not. Other heat sources are in short supply


        The Czech authorities filed a lawsuit against Poland in the European Court of Justice in February of this year, stating that coal mining threatens the Liberec region with environmental problems ...

        The Court of Justice of the European Union (CJEU) delivered a ruling that blew up the ruling coalition in Poland led by the Law and Justice Party (PiS). The CJEU demanded that Warsaw close the Turov coal mine located on the border with the Czech Republic in Lower Silesia. In case of refusal to comply with the court order, the Polish government will have to pay a fine of 500 THOUSAND EURO PER DAY (!!!)



        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/polit/3376963.html

        Poland has a lot of worries
        1. -3
          25 September 2021 09: 37
          Quote: Flood
          Poland has a lot of worries

          Well, not always they create problems for others. Here is the answer and flew in. Even if from the other side
        2. 0
          25 September 2021 13: 20
          Quote: Flood
          Poland has a lot of worries

          so that's not all
          "The European Commission decided to appeal to the European Court of Justice with a demand to impose financial fines on Poland in order to enforce [Warsaw] the decision of the [European] Court [Justice] concerning the work of the disciplinary chamber of the Polish Supreme Court and the suspension of Polish laws affecting the independence of the judiciary. The European Commission is asking the court to impose daily fines on Poland until all these court decisions are fully implemented, "the statement said. The amount of the daily fine that Warsaw will have to pay will be determined by the court. https://tass.ru/mezhdunarodnaya-panorama/12319701

          only they will somehow manage to get something ...
      2. +4
        25 September 2021 11: 11
        Quote: Seryoga64
        There is also a problem with the CHP.

        This is a twisting of hands - "You do not recognize the gay, we will close your CHP".
        1. -1
          25 September 2021 11: 14
          Quote: tihonmarine
          This is a twisting of hands - "You do not recognize the gay, we will close your CHP".

          There, they are beating on all fronts.
          Everyone was bent over, and the psheks kicked, so they are punished
      3. +1
        25 September 2021 14: 07
        [quote = Seryoga64] [quote = knn54] There's still a problem with the CHP. Poles are forced to close them, but they are not. There are not enough other heat sources [/ quote]
        Not certainly in that way. The empiricalists from the ESU made a decision to transfer all their CHPPs from coal and fuel oil to gas, for the Poles it is expensive to redo everything, so they are "pulling the volynna" with the modernization of their CHPPs (which threatens with fines from the ESU) and again here is the "hand of the Kremlin", since and gas and coal go to Polish CHPPs from the Russian Federation ...
        1. 0
          25 September 2021 18: 12
          It’s not so much expensive as it’s not clear what to do with the guys who will have to be thrown out of work.
          This is the problem.
          Do you remember what happened in the World Bank when Thatcher began to close the mines there?
          Here the same thing can start here.
          Well, OK, we'll transfer the stations. But what to do with PolKatowice and the other miners? :)
          1. 0
            25 September 2021 21: 07
            Quote: Denis812
            Do you remember what happened in the World Bank when Thatcher began to close the mines there?

            I went to kindergarten then. But now in South Uls there are no mines, there is no increased mortality, but there is science-intensive production.
            By the way, the Russian Federation itself closed many mines in Kuzbass ... like many mines in Donbass were closed by the authorities of the people's republics ...
            The Russian Federation is now investing in coal mining in a different direction, for example, the countries of Asia need it, incl. The PRC, which abandoned Australian coal ...
            1. +1
              25 September 2021 21: 20
              Great, I'm happy for South Wales. Probably thanks to this, the British plucked up the courage to leave the EU as well.
              RF - yes, it did. I wrote about my personal experience - I grew up in Vorkuta.
              We have no contradictions at all. The WB and the Russian Federation have coped.
              The question is whether Poland, which has much less resources, can cope.
              I live in Krakow. From me Katowice, where coal is - 3 hours. I see what's going on there.
              Maybe you can throw out 500K people, but so far no one says how.
              And keep in mind - 500K are mines, stations. And there are members of their families, there are those who make equipment for them, members of their families. There are those who sell services to them, their family members. As a result, this is under two or three people. And no one knows what to do with them.
              1. 0
                25 September 2021 21: 52
                Quote: Denis812
                Great, I'm happy for South Wales. Probably thanks to this, the British plucked up the courage to leave the EU as well.

                Not everything is so simple and you jump over the events of history.
                At the time of M. Thatcher's coming to power, the WB was the "main patient of Europe", its entry into the Common Market was blocked by the Europeans themselves since the time of De Gaulle, its policy of closing coal mines, privatizing the state sector of the economy, and so on. almost cost her career saved her .... victory in the "war at the end of the world" ....
                The Russian Federation could not afford, neither under the late USSR, nor under the BNU, nor under the early Putin, to close mines in the Kuzbass ...
                Also in Donbass, if not for the ATO, no one would have closed some of the mines (including emergency and depleted mines) ... for the DPR ....
                As for the former Polish People's Republic, with the collapse of the USSR and the CMEA, it lost more than it gained by joining the Visegrad Group in the ESU .... this concerns shipbuilding, the fishing industry, etc.
                On the topic of the article:
                Morawiecki also said that the national interests of his country will always take precedence over the European ones, so Poland intends to continue the course of preserving the coal industry - despite the demands of Brussels to switch to more environmentally friendly energy sources.
                At the climate conference in Katowice, Poland Polish President Andrzej Duda said his country is not even considering restrictions on coal mining. Duda noted that coal reserves in Poland will last for another 200 years, and this is the key to the country's energy independence.

                Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1632505643
                "Where do the legs grow from":
                Earlier, on September 17, the EU court ruled as a temporary measure to immediately stop mining in the mine pending a final decision on its future fate.
                The Czech Republic filed a corresponding request to the court at the end of February. The conflict between her and Poland over Turov has been going on for several years. The Czechs argue that the operation of the mine, which is located near the borders with the Czech Republic and Germany, is causing environmental harm to the Czech population.

                Source: https://rusvesna.su/news/1632505643
                1. +1
                  25 September 2021 21: 55
                  I do not quite understand what you are appealing to.
                  Has the Russian Federation closed the mines? I closed it.
                  WB closed? I closed it.
                  Poland will close? - I guess it will.

                  And about what Poland acquired is visible to me with the naked eye every single day .. And this is just the main proof that they will close the mines.
                  1. 0
                    25 September 2021 23: 13
                    Quote: Denis812
                    they will close the mines.

                    Of course, they will close it, but before that, it will wake up and shake your nerves ...
                    1. 0
                      26 September 2021 11: 10
                      Well, that's the right thing to do. For the EU requirement does not have to be fulfilled immediately unconditionally. It is better to make a bargaining chip out of this, perhaps the EU will meet halfway somewhere, or give more dough or something.
    2. -1
      25 September 2021 11: 10
      Quote: knn54
      It is relatively easy, for example, for a Ukrainian to get a "Card of a Pole" if he had Poles in his family

      You can also buy, but here's the problem for Africans - Poles are never black.
  6. +2
    25 September 2021 08: 44
    lack of reverence for LGBT people,

    What is it written there? laughing
    I doubt it.
  7. +8
    25 September 2021 08: 45
    I do not like Poland for its Russophobia, but for this "lack of piety towards LGBT people, to accept refugees", i.e. alien in mentality, culture and religion, who are historical enemies of Christians of any denomination - I respect. There are more eggs
    1. 0
      25 September 2021 08: 54
      Quote: james
      There are more eggs

      Looks like the Polish did not die wassat
    2. +3
      25 September 2021 08: 57
      Quote: james
      There are more eggs

      Where?

      They are the first to howl about LGBT people and refugees when it doesn't concern them.
    3. +1
      25 September 2021 18: 14
      Not ... It's just Duda and those like him sensitively feel the mood of the people.
      Here you are not here, and a gay man on the street can easily be pissed off.
      Although during the day and in the center of the city - with the police, these utyrkas walk calmly ... with rainbow scarves.

      And Duda just plays for the voter.
      He will lose if he starts to arrange gay parades here and give these infidels rights.
  8. +4
    25 September 2021 08: 53
    In addition, Brussels' irritation manifests itself due to the reluctance of the Polish authorities to accept the number of refugees, which is determined by the EU quotas.


    The USSR was built in the worst case ...
  9. -1
    25 September 2021 09: 16
    Again, the "jackals of Europe" howled at all voices ..
  10. +1
    25 September 2021 09: 17
    The President of Poland accused the EU authorities of ideological pressure and forcing the nation to accept alien principles

    They just got drunk and can't see the shores anymore
    1. -3
      25 September 2021 10: 11
      Quote: Olddetractor
      They just got drunk

      What does it have to do with it
  11. 0
    25 September 2021 09: 19
    President of Poland:
    the EU is now implementing the concept of ideological pressure and coercion of nations to accept principles alien to them.

    Duplicity, traditional for Europeans, and even more so for the Polish gentry. Until recently, the same Duda pushed through the European courts the principles of European solidarity in order to forcibly reduce the load on the Opal pipeline. And now he is disowning the same principle. At what point are you lying, Mr. President of Poland?
  12. 0
    25 September 2021 09: 27
    ... "The Polish leadership expresses dissatisfaction with the fact that political and economic directives are coming from Brussels, which are required to be implemented" ...
    And why did you Poles climb into the European Union, what about internal Union discipline?
    And you were only interested in ESovskie money!
  13. +2
    25 September 2021 09: 45
    Well, they would have done like the British - left the EU. Irresponsible Brussels * (demagogues) have gotten everyone in Europe. They are not responsible for anything, they are not accountable to anyone, but they point out to everyone.
  14. 0
    25 September 2021 09: 49
    Friendship is friendship, and a little bit apart. Lard, it is lard, why try it ?!
    Themselves subscribed ...
  15. +2
    25 September 2021 09: 51
    laughing And to blame the State Department for the same is weak?
  16. -1
    25 September 2021 10: 05
    It's like a prostitute would desire some kind of "fidelity" from a client ...
    The client is always right, and if he got to the "chorus" - so the costs of the profession, it happens, what can you do ...
  17. +1
    25 September 2021 10: 05
    lack of piety towards LGBT people

    Poles have a high level of religiosity, so this is understandable.
    I wonder how in Italy they solve this problem, they also have a lot of religious ones?
  18. +1
    25 September 2021 10: 08
    It is worth recalling that the EU has recently formed a number of claims against Poland.

    Interestingly, the EU will punish Poland, impose sanctions, or does not smell of its own.
  19. 0
    25 September 2021 10: 11
    The President of Poland accused the EU authorities of ideological pressure and forcing the nation to accept alien principles
    ... So it’s nothing unexpected .... everyone loves to take, to give .... as always.
    Polish people are bolder / bolder than others, they speak loudly ...
  20. -2
    25 September 2021 10: 30
    , lack of reverence for LGBT people

    this they have already handed over to Eurogeys this week ...
  21. +1
    25 September 2021 10: 35
    The European Union behaves like the USSR. Everyone must fulfill its requests. Poland with a GDP of $ 600 billion and a debt of only 300 billion can send them through forests. Poland is a self-sufficient country with 26 billion exports and 26 billion imports. Ukraine is 160 billion GDP, Belarus is 60 billion GDP, so for comparing who Poland is.
    1. +1
      25 September 2021 11: 36
      Quote: tralflot1832
      The European Union behaves like the USSR. Everyone must fulfill its requests. Poland with a GDP of $ 600 billion and a debt of only 300 billion can send them through forests. Poland is a self-sufficient country with 26 billion exports and 26 billion imports. Ukraine is 160 billion GDP, Belarus is 60 billion GDP, so for comparing who Poland is.


      Of course, of course, self-sufficient.

      Do not specify what is the national currency of this self-sufficient country?
      Almost any business requires bank lending and sales markets.

      Everything is extremely simple, the Poles entered the "European Union" project and they are not the main ones there, they do not set the policy and rules there. They are only required to obey the established rules.

      There is no EU exclusion procedure in the EU.
      But there is a precedent for voluntary withdrawal, on the example of Britain.
      If the Poles try to portray an independent or main country in the EU, they will create such problems that they themselves will leave the EU without pants, without Schengen, without a common EU market and even without the WTO.

      The remarkable ratio of GDP to public debt will change. The GDP will fall and the national debt will grow during the showdown with the EU, subsidies will be slaughtered, fines will be counted, the state credit rating will be made junk, debt service will become unbearable.
      1. +1
        25 September 2021 12: 15
        The interest rate of lending is 0,1, the interbank is 0,14. How do you like that. 26 billion in exports. They can do everything, Poland is a transit country and does not open embassies in Taiwan. Check out their experience in the economy. Since 1991, Poland has raised its economy by 8 times and this is one of the best indicators in Eastern Europe. You need to know the enemy by sight.
    2. AB
      +2
      25 September 2021 11: 53
      Poland has never been a self-sufficient state. Always lived at someone else's expense. All its industrialization since 1945 at the expense of the USSR, and since 1992 at the expense of Europe. Almost EVERYTHING was received from the USSR for a song or free of charge. After 1985 aid to the USSR practically disappeared, Poland slipped into poverty. After the war, with the key role of the USSR, the eastern regions of Germany were annexed to Poland - part of West Prussia, part of Silesia, East Pomerania and East Brandenburg, the former Free City of Danzig, as well as the Szczecin district. And it's all for free. You can learn from Poland in resourcefulness around the world. It's no secret that Poland is one of the largest recipients of European aid among the rest of the EU. All the so-called Economic Miracle of Poland is built on non-repayable loans. Investments in Poland from EU funds in 2014-2020 amounted to about PLN 450 billion (EUR 106 billion).
      1. 0
        25 September 2021 12: 17
        If the debt is 269 billion euros, according to their reports, I had a completely different opinion from yours. hi
  22. AML
    -1
    25 September 2021 10: 39
    I've seen this p ... a. He sells wooden dicks in Khimki (tsy)

    Since Duda behaves, on the contrary, he should be with both hands for.
  23. -1
    25 September 2021 10: 55
    It would be fun if Poland was given a knee in the ass from the European Union ... wink
  24. AB
    0
    25 September 2021 11: 07
    What a stupid Europe. Well, she can’t understand that Poland, accustomed to living at the expense of others since the end of World War II, will always be unhappy with any reminders of debts and agreements. She will never be ready to give what has already been appropriated to herself. She can only scream that everyone around her is offended, that she is the most affected by Germany and the USSR, and for this everyone owes her. Supporting her arguments with horror stories about the imminent attack of Russia on Europe and that she is the main outpost in her defense. Well, stupid Europeans continue to give Poland money in the unrealizable hope of an opportunity, in the very distant future, to get at least something from the Poles.
  25. -1
    25 September 2021 11: 39
    Poles are used to eating cookies for free. But as the proverb says: you love to ride, love to carry sledges. Otherwise, I want it, I don’t want it. Like Ukraine, however.
  26. 0
    25 September 2021 13: 29
    Quote: tralflot1832
    The interest rate of lending is 0,1, the interbank is 0,14. How do you like that. 26 billion in exports. They can do everything, Poland is a transit country and does not open embassies in Taiwan. Check out their experience in the economy. Since 1991, Poland has raised its economy by 8 times and this is one of the best indicators in Eastern Europe. You need to know the enemy by sight.


    You give the interest rates for lending that are now. Just confirming that Poland receives huge subsidies, lending for their business is not only free, but even profitable, because even the official inflation in the EU is likely to be about 4-5 percent. In addition, there are also direct subsidies for various EU programs.

    Do you really think that this will persist when the Poles begin to cut off the oxygen.
    Poland is already very strongly embedded in the EU, and all certification and regulatory and licensing authorities are in Brussels. If the Poles begin to be crushed to the fullest, then non-aviation companies will not be able to legally fly or will not be able to legally mine coal and use it to generate electricity (even paying a carbon tax for it).

    The closure of mines has already been demanded from the Poles, a fine for each day of not fulfilling 500 thousand euros. And they just poked Poland at one point ..

    And you wrote here about the Polish super achievement of 26 billion euros in exports.

    That's just funny.
    Until the Poles are taken seriously, they are only trying on. As they undertake, they will be smeared like a horse's apple with a roller on the asphalt.
  27. -1
    25 September 2021 16: 38
    Joined the EU - they will tolerate.
  28. +2
    25 September 2021 18: 22
    As someone who came in large numbers from St. Petersburg 6 years ago to Poland, I can say that:
    1. Only a complete eeeee ... mentally retarded can want to leave the EU in Poland. For Polska is strong only because EU money is the most fatal in this very EU. There is really a sea of ​​money.
    2. Geiprava and others will not be sold to Poland under any sauce, for any prez who buys it will fly out of office. Poland is an extremely conservative Catholic country, where every second street is named after Vanka Pashka II and they all hang out together in churches on every other street (while normal guys can safely walk around cities and villages without Poles :))
    3. Poland has been very strongly poked into coal and the mines will have to be closed and the stations switched to gas.
    This is anyway. Despite the strong miners' lobby, the Polish authorities will cope with this. As well as the authorities of the Russian Federation, as a result, they threw my city of life - Vorkuta with its mines.
    4. Poland is playing for time and bargaining. On TV, the local iksperdy say quite openly that they need to say the coal before the message, but you just need to bargain for the norms.

    Well, my two pennies - Poland and Hungary are now two countries that do not let migrants from BV and other Africa. And thank God. I constantly skate around the EU and well, it’s what it’s like in Brussels or Paris now.

    In summary:
    1. Coal - krants
    2. Gays - keep restricting
    3. Migrants - do not let go, nodding at two hundred thousand Ukrainian visitors. Norm. excuse :)
  29. +7
    26 September 2021 00: 22
    Otherwise, if you want to fatten on EU money - be ready to expose your ass and stand on your knees in front of the blacks.
    This is how it is today in the Western world.
    request
  30. -1
    26 September 2021 14: 45
    "Previously, we were just paid and everything was right and good, but now we are forced to somehow work off this money! This is wrong!" laughing