Lavrov: Russia will not join NATO

Russia is not going to join NATO, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who arrived at the 76th UN General Assembly, which is taking place these days in New York.

The head of the Russian Foreign Ministry began his visit with a meeting with NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg. During a protocol photograph before the start of the talks, Lavrov, addressing reporters, stressed that Russia is not going to join NATO.

Don't try your luck. Russia is not going to join NATO

- the media quote his words.

At the same time, the Russian Foreign Minister did not explain who is discussing the issue of the likelihood of Russia's joining the North Atlantic military bloc today.

The very meeting between Lavrov and Stoltenberg took place behind closed doors. Later, the Russian Foreign Ministry issued an official statement that the parties discussed the current state of relations between Russia and the alliance and the reduction of tensions on the contact line. Details of the negotiations are not provided.

Prior to that, the Russian minister took part in a meeting of the foreign ministers of the "five" permanent members of the UN Security Council. The main topic of the discussion, which was also held with the participation of UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres, was the situation in Afghanistan, Iran and others.

As previously reported, Lavrov will speak at the General Assembly on September 25. Until that time, he will hold a number of meetings with foreign politicians.

Comments

[Grandfather]

Lavrov: Russia will not join NATO

"sharpness" is so-so ...

[Pilot]

did Nata offer to join? Pomnitsa Putin had a hint about joining 10-15 years ago, but then they said that it was like a joke.

[SRC P-15]

Lavrov: Russia will not join NATO

Lavrov is right! We will wait for NATO to ask to join Russia!
And if in the future the EU creates its own army (and this is where it goes), then most likely it will be possible to talk about an alliance with them. And let Nata drive a kangaroo in Australia.

[Pilot]

Yes, he says that he is correct only like nonsense. Who and when offered him to join Russia to NATO, nowhere did anything of the kind appear in the information field.

[Shurik70]

Surely the phrase was taken out of context.
Why would Lavrov talk about this? And even with threats. Someone asked (probably a journalist), and in a demanding manner. And in the media, the question was bypassed, only the answer was presented.
Usually the case in the modern world

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Pilot

Yes, he says that he is correct only like nonsense. Who and when offered him to join Russia to NATO, nowhere did anything of the kind appear in the information field.

"..... As you know, Moscow made a proposal to join NATO back in March 1954. As the Russian edition of Meduza writes," British historian Jeffrey Roberts seriously believed that Molotov really admitted that the USSR could join NATO. But not to end the Cold War, but to take away the resource of this organization from the United States "..........

.... Boris Yeltsin took the initiative for the second time. On December 21, 1991, right on the day of the signing of the Alma-Ata Declaration on the formation of the CIS, Boris Yeltsin sent a letter to NATO stating that "Russia's joining the bloc will be one of the long-term goals of his policy." However, Yeltsin's initiative was soon effectively disavowed by Foreign Minister Andrei Kozyrev, who said that international cooperation was more important than Russia's swift entry into NATO. This led to the fact that after the collapse of the USSR, there were serious discussions in the West about whether Russia should be admitted to NATO. They say that even a specific date appeared - 2005, simultaneously with the entry into the Alliance of Ukraine and Belarus. After that, Yeltsin replaced the pro-Western Kozyrev with the Soviet-minded Yevgeny Primakov ...........

...... As you know, Vladimir Putin raised this issue even before his first presidential elections. In interviews, he has repeatedly stated that he does not object to Russia's joining NATO. He raised this issue in negotiations with Bill Clinton. But, as Putin himself said, Secretary of State Madeleine Albright was sharply opposed. Many years later, in an interview with Oliver Stone, the Russian president said that "the entire American delegation was very nervous, although Clinton said that he was ready to consider Russia's entry into the Alliance" ........ "
https://ru.krymr.com/a/pochemu-rossiya-obvinyaet-v-svoej-agressii-nato/30510350.html

[abstractly]

Pralna, the information field is not limited to the media, these are still behind-the-scenes whispers, you just think that Lavrov will speak.

[raw174]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

And if in the future the EU creates its own army (and this is where it goes), then most likely it will be possible to talk about an alliance with them.

An alliance between Russia and Europe, let alone a military one, is ruled out. Business partners, situational partners, nothing more. Europe and Russia are historically enemies.

[poquello]

Quote: raw174

Europe and Russia are historically enemies

will we write nonsense or teach history? 1813, for example

[Paranoid50]

Quote: СРЦ П-15

The EU will create its own army (and this is where it goes), then most likely it will be possible to talk about an alliance with them.

These alliances have already passed, a little over a hundred years ago. Until then, they came to an alliance that, according to the results of WWI, Russia did not even find a place among the winners, as, incidentally, Russia itself was not found. Therefore, they are going with their alliances to the left, the old clearing ..

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: Pilot

did Nata offer to join? wassat Pomnitsa Putin had a hint about joining 10-15 years ago, but then they said that it was like a joke.

Putin, Putin is young - even Stalin was interested in joining NATO!

[Vladimir_2U]

A rare case when I am surprised at the minuses.

Back in early 1949, Soviet Foreign Minister Andrei Vyshinsky, through the mediation of the British Communist Party, sent a note to London with a proposal to discuss Moscow's participation in the organization - the ideological predecessor of NATO - the Western European Union. A negative answer allowed Stalin to call this bloc "a dig under the UN."

[Orange bigg]

Joining NATO is tantamount to voluntarily entering into slavery. Being American lackeys and ensuring the demand for junk from the American military-industrial complex is not our topic for good luck. God had mercy as they say. Let all sorts of Baltistans flounder in the American stall.

[Vladimir_2U]

Quote: OrangeBigg

Joining NATO is tantamount to voluntarily entering into slavery.

Maybe, maybe not. France and England, for example, do not look like slaves. But in general, I was ironic about Putin, it’s a pity I forgot to write about it, once again.

[Orange bigg]

... France and England, for example, do not look like slaves.

Well, all the new members of NATO have a status far from that of France and England, the countries that founded this alliance. France during De Gaulle's time withdrew from NATO to preserve independence, although it was returned a little later, removing De Gaulle from the political scene. This already says something. Great Britain fled from the EU for a reason. They also respect the independence and interests of their country. though it's easier for them because in NATO they are one of the few who really steers there in close alliance with the United States. AUKUS union of Australia, Great Britain and the USA is a vivid example of this: here is the Anglo-Saxon white bone, where there is no road even for France and Germany.

[Denis812]

Putin was absolutely serious about this.
15 years ago, Russia still had the hope that the West is a friend of Russia. Thank God, I was smart enough to understand that these barbaric countries that have brought us evil for a thousand years and which have unleashed all the invasions of Russia are our enemies.
You can trade with them, you can talk to them. And you have to keep the club ready to kick when they start advancing.
Or, in case they are very busy with the war with China. A stab in the back with a club can help them go to the next world.

[smart ass]

I should have said ready to join, but together with Iraq, Iran and Syria)) so neigh

[Andrey Moskvin]

Without Afghanistan and the DPRK, the alliance will be incomplete.

[Kuroneko]

Initially, even Stalin asked to join NATO. When they sent him with this, and the OVD was born. But there was a cunning plan.
But today it makes no sense to join a purely hostile organization, and Lavrov, with his statement, only subtly mocked the Europeans. Those who already realize that the Master can not only throw them, but will definitely throw them.

[Pilot]

Quote: Kuroneko

his statement only subtly mocked the Europeans. Those who already realize that the Master can not only throw them, but will definitely throw them.

Below is already answered ..

[Pilot]

Well, he knows better ..

[Kuroneko]

To me personally, from the high bell tower. I am more interested in minesweepers and military transport aircraft of the Russian Federation.

[Bad_gr]

Quote: Dead Day

Lavrov: Russia will not join NATO

"sharpness" is so-so ...

Where did you find the joke here? Looks like they got it with this question, and he answered.

[AUL]

Quote: Bad_gr

Where did you find the joke here?

In the afternoon, there was news on the news on the durovizor that Lavrov had trolled Stoltenberg with this phrase. The acuteness is really so-so. And now at VO, adult men (and, of course, schoolchildren) are in all seriousness discussing with a clever air the possibility and expediency of the entry of the Russian Federation into nature. Killer bake!
Editorial VO, what are you doing ?!

[Split]

It would be necessary to joke differently ... If Nata wants - let him join Russia!

[tralflot1832]

He has already held meetings with the Foreign Ministers of England and Poland, but so far without comments, unlike some.

[Polite Moose]

Quote: tralflot1832

He has already held meetings with the Foreign Ministers of England and Poland, but so far without comments.

What's there to comment on? As a result of the meeting, Russia will not join either England or Poland.

[tralflot1832]

When there is one-to-one conversations, he does not speak in a raised voice; assistants and embassies work for this.

[Nyrobsky]

Quote: tralflot1832

When there are conversations in a personal meeting , it does not go on in a raised voice. For this, assistants and embassies work.

Some interesting processes are happening with this "in a personal meeting".
On copper Gerasimov and Milli in Helsinki, face to face, rubbed about something, here Lavrov and Stoltenberg were talking about something behind closed doors, so much so that Sergey Viktorovich sent this NAT to, they say - "Go away" ...

[tralflot1832]

Let's wait for September 25th.

[Brturin]

Quote: Nyrobsky

On copper Gerasimov with Milli in Helsinki face to face rubbing about something

Let the experts tinder, and when they grind and something appears, something can be announced and then meet (no one meets with the same leadership of Ukraine so far, there are no results, political advisers only from time to time), and so again after the same leadership of NATO will start - we have contacts, we have firmly expressed our position, etc. etc. Let it be better to explain once again why there are no contacts (they are about their own, ours are about theirs) than such contacts that are not clear about what and why ...

[Cananecat]

Quote: BrTurin

Let the specialists tinder, and when they grind and something appears that can be announced then already and meet (with the same leadership

Gerasimov from Mili Ukraine was sentenced. Lavrov's visit follows, speaks of the consideration of the issue of how it will be divided.

[cniza]

Don't try your luck. Russia is not going to join NATO

NATO itself is not in the best shape now, it still has to survive ...

[rocket757]

Hi
To listen to the talker's psIS, so NATO is more alive than all the living.
And besides, it is not clear how that structure will survive the crisis, which did not exist before?
They are used to creating and resolving themselves in their own way, but then they caught up!

[Sergey1964]

Quote: rocket757

and then caught up with them!

Are you talking about Lavrov and the Foreign Ministry? Not an expert on hallucinogenic substances, but tends to agree. It looks like it really caught up.

[rocket757]

Quote: Sergey1964

Are you talking about Lavrov and the Foreign Ministry?

Come on, our exhortations, statements, concerns about him, ZABUGORNY, to one place ... they will have their own problems ... presumably, although, they can blab everything, as before. A very flexible structure and if you pull out a rod like the Yankees from it, you will wind them until ... but fig knows what. Let's look from the outside.
In general, fortune telling on the coffee grounds ... although it's already cool, if you look from the outside.

[Sergey1964]

Quote: rocket757

Come on, our admonitions, statements, concerns about them

Amendment. Not "ours", but specifically Lavrov. Personally, I do not associate myself with Lavrov. ))

[Snail N9]

Yes, it looks like the "delayed action" syndrome of the "Argentinean" "sugar" has caught up with our Foreign Ministry grandfather. So someone calls him to NAT, from the void ...

[Sergey1964]

Quote: Snail N9

"Argentinean" "sugar"

By the way, this is unpatriotic on the part of the Foreign Ministry. We (I live in Krasnoyarsk) literally close by in the neighboring republic of Tyva (nee Tuva, the birthplace of our Minister of Defense) grow environmentally friendly hemp. Grown exclusively for the production of prohibited plant substances. That is why our Foreign Ministry uses the Argentinean potion when it has everything of its own? I’m not in terms of advertising (I don’t use it myself, and I don’t recommend it to others), it’s just a shame for the state. There is, after all, its own, import-substituted ...
By the way, we have fly agarics in our region, good and different. Experts say it works too. I have not tried it myself, but small peoples of the North use it, and with great success. In general, I do not understand why the Foreign Ministry is fixated on Argentina.

[cniza]

Quote: rocket757

Hi
To listen to the talker's psIS, so NATO is more alive than all the living.
And besides, it is not clear how that structure will survive the crisis, which did not exist before?
They are used to creating and resolving themselves in their own way, but then they caught up!

Good time!
They got fat very stylishly, lost their shape and attitude, and now they are trying to portray something ...

[rocket757]

Quote: cniza

They got fat very stylish

So how do you look at it?
when they pounced on the weaker, in a crowd, they had fun ... and now the internal showdown, because there are not enough buns for everyone, and the bumps, here they are, please.
If HeHemon is more or less significant to scrub, rob ... it will be fun!

[cniza]

Everything goes to this, the United States is not going to share with anyone and now they are very concerned about China ...

[rocket757]

Others can count in a different way, i.e. they have more pressing concerns.

[cniza]

Everyone considers to the best of their wishes ...

[rocket757]

It's okay for the hobbyists, there the necessary supports specifically, it won't be possible to get out, already.

[cniza]

Yes, there is nowhere to go, something needs to be decided ...

[rocket757]

Some problems are of such a level that the option "at least something, at least something" can aggravate.

[cniza]

Sometimes, especially gifted ones, let everything go by itself ...

[rocket757]

It happens, only then, either to skedaddle with sparkling heels, or ... skedaddle even faster.
10 minutes to the Canadian border, also an option .... if you splash sKiPidaru between the buns.

[cniza]

Sometimes even without skiing they run faster than the wind ...

[Daniil Konovalenko]

Cool, this is Russia spat in the direction of the West, they did not even expect it.

[Sergey1964]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

Russia spat towards the West

Does the West know?

[Pilot]

Quote: Daniil Konovalenko

Cool, this is Russia spat in the direction of the West, they did not even expect it.

Yes, trolling at the Foreign Ministry's like the postmaster in the Cruel Romance
- And I do not take bribes, gentlemen!
- So no one offers you, your place is not so profitable. If they gave and you did not take, then you can brag.
Lavrov still represents Russia, and before making such statements, he must think carefully so that the country does not turn out to be a laughing stock. ... Well, or before to tell how NATO begged Russia to join, then only such a statement makes sense. And so yes, well, their forest of such “partners” - you won't get anything good from them.

[rocket757]

Russia is not going to join NATO, said Russian Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov, who arrived at the 76th UN General Assembly, which is taking place these days in New York.

If you remember ... they voiced something that they are now denying.
To say that these were completely different figures ... somehow it is hard to believe.
However, the paths of the road parted, some kind of intereses entered into contradictions ... it happens.

[cniza]

Uh-huh, everything is not very simple there and times are not very easy ...

[rocket757]

About the times ... we, the people, the country, times are not easy for a long time and constantly!
And here are some of them, which are useless, or even harmful to grind with the tongue, and "greens for stacking", a warm, cozy place to cook somewhere there ... they are like that ... in general, they are rEdiski, as the Leader of the Nations said. Until all the radishes are chopped into a salad, we will not see peace and prosperity.

[cniza]

We never had peace and it looks like we have to wait for it for a long time ...

[rocket757]

In general, it is possible to live like that, it ENCOURAGES.
Although there comes a time when to be alone is a blessing.
The choice depends on age strongly, but not absolutely.

[cniza]

And that's why we don't have to think about peace, which means we'll live longer ...

[rocket757]

So this is not news .. as soon as I stopped, froze in place, this is only one way ...

[Essex62]

There is a way, if constant stress.

[rocket757]

Any extremes are not useful, even dangerous ... one can only dream of a golden seridine.

[Essex62]

Exactly what to dream about. First, the size of the pension, with an equal average wage in the Union, was cut to the point of a remnant, and then this was taken away. You don't plow until you die. Why can't you plow, your health is over? Well, die off, extra person.
And how good it is in the village. Air, a river with a fish, a forest with mushrooms. Dream.

[rocket757]

Suppose retirement does not improve a person's financial situation anywhere. There are categories in which everything is more / less normal, but this is a separate topic.

Quote: Essex62

And how good it is in the village.

It's also not easy, but perhaps easier than in the city ... although for this, you need to do a lot in advance, a lot of things to be done, to foresee.

[Essex62]

There was no difference between a pension and a salary of a skilled worker or engineer in the USSR. What are the deterioration? Well, yes, if you earned under 300, and the pension is paid 130, then there is a fork. But with those prices that have not changed for decades, save for old age, with a high salary and the stability of the ruble,
there was no problem. And not among individuals, but in large quantities. If you have something to deservedly rest, the village is good. A small farm, accustomed to work hard for a peasant, is not a burden.
I have everything ready, I rebuilt the house, but I cannot leave, there will be nothing to live on.

[rocket757]

Comparing incomparable, what's the point now ... there is no Soviet pension system, a lot of things are not and are not expected.
A simple choice, sit back and regret, regret ... or do something ...
In general, this is again for politics and world order.

[Essex62]

No, this is not about me. To sit on the fifth point, on the bank with a fishing rod, when there is something. While you have to get yourself happiness. And politics, wherever you go. I went out into the courtyard, and there you go to politics.

[Petro_tut]

I don’t know why Lavrushi’s NATO issue, but today I didn’t get yogurt in the multicooker, before that it was on accidentally bought milk, the bacteria refused to eat palm trans fats, and now it was repeated already on proven milk,
In short, a colleague's donut hole.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Petro_tut

but I didn't get yogurt in the multicooker today, before that it was on accidentally bought milk,

You have to start your own cow, I have good yogurt and butter.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tihonmarine

You need to start your own cow

I would, but I'm not a cat Matroskin!

[tihonmarine]

Quote from Uncle Lee

I would, but I'm not a cat Matroskin!

Yes, a shelter, this is not a cat, she needs care. I have a mother-in-law for that.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tihonmarine

mother-in-law is.

And I have no mother-in-law ... And the cat is 21 years old! I'm 71 ..... What a cow here!

[tralflot1832]

Health to you and all relatives and the cat too. Sakhalin is not sugar, although it is close to the Black Sea in latitude.

[Uncle lee]

Quote: tralflot1832

Health to you

Thank you for your wishes ! And you health, success and prosperity!

[zwlad]

All the time I believed that lactic acid bacteria feed on carbohydrates, sugars, for example. And you have them, it turns out they eat fat.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: zwlad

All the time I believed that lactic acid bacteria feed on carbohydrates, sugars, for example. And you have them, it turns out they eat fat.

From hunger and not that they will devour, where is now milk, and sugar, everywhere a palm tree and aspartame.

[zwlad]

Milk? From cows, for example. We have enough of them in the region. And the sugar beet was simply heaps of heaps.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: zwlad

From cows, for example. We have enough of them in the region. And the sugar beet was simply heaps of heaps.

There are cows, and there is milk, but when it falls into the hands of a "producer-capitalist", instead of milk on the shelves, we get a "dairy product".

[zwlad]

And what to do with the tons of milk brought in from farms every day?
I don’t know about you, but our dairies do not produce a "dairy product", only milk, including whole milk, different sour milk, sour cream, cottage cheese, but the leftovers go into cheeses.
Considering the production that has been fine-tuned over two decades, it is more profitable to make natural products than to mix "palm".
Moreover, every 2-3 years new dairies are opened in regional centers, closer to farms.
In general, our agro-industrial complex is quite powerful. What is not produced.
So the scale of the "palm" is not as large as they are drawn to us.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: zwlad

Moreover, every 2-3 years new dairies are opened in regional centers, closer to farms.

Well this is great! Continue in the same spirit.

[astepanov]

Quote: Petro_tut

bacteria and refused to eat palm trans fats

Venerable, trans fats (as well as any other fats) to lactobacilli are completely by the side, they feed on lactase. Learn the ABC book, and yogurt will work.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: astepanov

Learn the ABC book, and yogurt will work.

Milk that sells yogurt in stores will not work, but a smelly liquid is obtained. My mother put milk in the canopy, and a day later she got a wonderful yogurt, better than yogurt, but there were cows of her own, and the milk was natural, and now there is "chemistry" everywhere.

[astepanov]

Quote: tihonmarine

and now "chemistry" is everywhere.

In addition - physics, mathematics, biology ... Can you keep up with everything? Moreover, not everyone has a canopy in the apartment, and keeping a cow on the balcony is inconvenient: the manure will fall down, as grandfather Newton taught us. You are already holding on there, without homemade yogurt: if you die - whom will Lavrov protect from Nata?

[Keyser soze]

bacteria and refused to eat ..

Ladies, it takes good milk for the yogurt. But also something else - the NATO bacterium - lactobacillus bulgaricus .....

I will help with the data - the leaven, with real bacteria, dies in a month and a half. And we need a new one, from Bulgaria. It is the only and the only thing that grows with us. We export, for example, sourdough to Japan every month. The Japs are very fond of our yoghurt, but original.
By the way, we call yogurt "sour milk" and milk is called "unleavened milk".
This is how things are with sour milk.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Keyser Soze

By the way, we call yogurt "sour milk" and milk is called "unleavened milk".

What what, and your "sour milk" is very good.

[yfast]

And what is NATO for? Isn't it for "against Russia"?

[Azim77]

The whole essence of NATO is like a children's sandbox. There are kids in the yard, there is a strong judoka guy from the same yard (Russia) and there is another strong guy with a bat, but from a different yard (USA). Kids, because of their weakness, are looking for protection, but in fact there is more condescension on the part of strong guys .. Now, in an age of practically common capitalism, in the opinion of small NATO member countries, we are together with the strong against his enemy. By inertia after the USSR, it was us with the United States against Russia. But now the United States is leaving for another yard to fight, to a karateka (China). Here are the kids and at a loss. To ask for the patronage of a judoka, or they themselves will cope temporarily. What if the guy with the bat comes back to them?

[igorspb]

To join NATO and not let Ukraine go there is a great trolling ...

[Tagan]

Quote: Petro_tut

I don’t know why Lavrushi’s NATO issue, but today I didn’t get yogurt in the multicooker, before that it was on accidentally bought milk, the bacteria refused to eat palm trans fats, and now it was repeated already on proven milk,
In short, a colleague's donut hole.

You repeat yourself. But still, something did not go your topic)))

[alex aircraft]

And why has the opinion changed? I remember that the GDP in the year 2003-2005 said that it’s okay if the Russian Federation joins NATO, and the Balts joined NATO under it.

[askort154]

Lavrov, addressing reporters, stressed that Russia is not going to join NATO
Don't try your luck. Russia is not going to join NATO

Seryoga, as always, knows how to troll with humor. Here he hinted to journalists that if he meets with the NATO Secretary General, this is not a reason for the media to fake about Russia's desire to join NATO.

[Sergey1964]

Quote: askort154

Seryoga, as always, knows how to troll with humor. Here he hinted to reporters

Badly. Unsuccessful. Try again. )))

[askort154]

Sergey1964 ...Badly. Unsuccessful. Try again. )))

I don't react to such trolls. I have seen many of them during my experience at VO. And unlike them, I never use minuses.

[Revival]

Well, now, as an honest man, he will go to the deputies, so he said at last

[Tagan]

Quote: alex aircraft

And why has the opinion changed? I remember that the GDP in the year 2003-2005 said that it’s okay if the Russian Federation joins NATO, and the Balts joined NATO under it.

Well, Duc, then the natushi told us that all their attempts and diligence were directed only to protect against the radishes of Iran and everything is fine in relations with Russia. So this joke was born, if I'm not mistaken.

[Revival]

And how they begged, how they begged ...

[Revival]

Well, what can I say, the statement is adequate, very adequate, timely, topical, especially before leaving for deputies, maybe not that ...

[rotmistr60]

Don't try your luck

Better yet, don't tempt fate!

[Shkworen]

in general, it would be funny if Russia was taken to NATO :)
Ukraine would powerfully take off into orbit at the expense of its fifth points :)

[APASUS]

The Americans easily throw their NATO allies, friends and partners for money. What will change with the accession of the Russians, and then why do we need it?

[Normann]

And we will not replenish the US defense budget, we just do not want to)

[st2st]

The best thing that I have heard about NATU is the Serbian chants "NATO is guano, the UN is rear-wheel drive (according to the rules of the VO, I cannot convey the exact message of the Serbs, they will be banned)

[Codett]

Who will take you there?

[Blackbeard]

so that the "ce-Europeans" are envious) their dream)

[poquello]

good trolling, I liked more only about the session of collective hypnosis from Zakharova

[AntiAleks]

so she has already made the Taliban and Syria happy