Opponents of Israel's Iron Dome funding criticized in the US

The Iron Dome missile defense system currently plays a critical role in protecting Israel from missile and air attacks. For the Israelis, the Iron Dome is a source of pride, for the American Left Democrats, it is not only a financial burden, but also a confirmation of the US militaristic policy in the Middle East. Therefore, a group of left-wing democrats promised to achieve the rejection by Congress of the bill on the allocation of a billion dollars for the Israeli missile defense system, the attempts of which are not abandoned by the United States at their facilities.

However, the leadership of the Democratic Party did not agree with their "leftists". House Majority Leader Stenn Hoyer promises that Congress will vote and decide on funding for the Israeli program within this week. Also, the leader of the faction announced a conversation with Israeli Foreign Minister Yair Lapid, whom he assured of an early resolution of the problem situation.

The US House of Representatives is going to use the fast-track procedure, which requires approval of the bill by two-thirds of the congressmen present. The US Senate will then have to approve the bill.

However, the protest of the Left Democrats against the funding of the Iron Dome itself cannot but be alarming. It turns out that there is a group of people in the American political establishment that does not want to spend budget funds on Israeli (or even joint with Israel) programs. And this despite the fact that quite recently the Palestinian groups led by Hamas subjected Israeli territory to a powerful rocket attack. Then the Israelites literally prayed to their "Iron Dome". Thousands of Palestinian missiles were intercepted, saving Israeli cities and towns from numerous casualties and destruction. True, it was not possible to intercept dozens of missiles.

The left-wing democrats of the United States cannot fail to understand that for Israel everything related to the missile defense and air defense system is of particular importance. But skepticism about Israel is growing in the United States. Although Israel remains the most important geopolitical ally of the United States in the Middle East, it is clear that the White House has cooled somewhat towards its partners. It is no coincidence that the leader of the Republican faction in the House of Representatives, Kevin McCarthy, lashed out at the Democrats, accusing political opponents of surrendering to the "anti-Semitic sentiment" of the left side of the party. Indeed, under Republican Donald Trump, the United States demonstrated a much more pro-Israel attitude than it does now.

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[Flooding]

Will not go anywhere.
How much it will be necessary, so much will be paid.
There is such a tight tangle of mutual interests that it is unlikely to work otherwise.

[Invoce]

Israel is the main US ally in the Middle East. And it doesn't matter for what to give money to Israel and for what! The main thing is to finance ... Yes, in general, and this is ultimately nothing for the United States. No more expensive than the paper $ is made of. And financing is the opening of credit lines, electronic money. And the whole world will pay off who buys US debt

[Shahno]

Yes, everyone has already decided, as far as I know. Moreover, this initiative only accelerated the receipt of assistance. Here's an unexpected reaction.
And all of that, a couple of calls.

[Oleg Olkha]

"Today, the US Congress, by a majority vote of 420 to 9, approved the allocation of $ 1 billion to fund the Kipat Barzel systems for Israel." From the media ... The Israeli government thanked Congress for its unwavering bipartisan support ...

[rocket757]

Opponents of Israel's Iron Dome funding criticized in the US

If you don't want tsuzoe, do your own ... although, what is the main reason for such a position ???

[Flooding]

Quote: rocket757

If you don't want tsuzoe, do your own ... although, what is the main reason for such a position ???

we are talking about financing just someone else's air defense / missile defense system
1 billion for Israel's defense needs

[rocket757]

So it was said that Uncle Joe did not have warm feelings for those dreams ... their affairs, their troubles.

[A. Privalov]

It turns out that there is a group of people in the American political establishment that does not want to spend budget funds on Israeli (or even joint with Israel) programs.

It's not about spending budget funds, they spend more on toilet paper per week.
The well-known pro-Palestinian Democratic lobby, including Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Talib and Ilhan Omar, spoke out against it.
Despite this, the funds will be transferred, albeit with some delay from 45 to 60 days.

[Iris]

It was always interesting how this gang ended up in Congress.

[Zaurbek]

Given the emigration and fertility and, in general, the declining white population in the United States, trends will continue and worsen.

[Archon]

In such a natural way, the vector of politics can generally change. If the Latinos become the majority in the United States, then the entire world system, international relations, the role of the English language, the role of the dollar, the position of scientific, political, and military world centers will inevitably change.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: Archon

In such a natural way, the vector of politics can generally change.

This is how it happens throughout the history of mankind, but for you this is a revelation?

Quote: Archon

the entire world system, international relations, the role of the English language, the role of the dollar, the position of scientific, political, and military world centers will inevitably change.

Once again, like hundreds of times before. This is a pattern.

[sidoroff]

it is necessary to somehow convince Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez, Rashida Talib and Ilkhan Omar that Kipat Barzel saves first of all
Arab - Muslim life. while the damage from missiles from Gaza is minimal, the precision and selectivity of the response is maximal.

[Iris]

This is hardly possible - the life of their fellow tribesmen is of little concern to them. They do not want good for their own, but harm for Israel.
"Almighty, pluck out one eye for me" (c).

[A. Privalov]

Well, here's the latest news:

Rosa DeLauro (Democratic Party), Chairperson of the Appropriations Committee of the US House of Representatives, introduced separate a law that sets aside $ 1 billion to resupply Israel's Iron Dome interceptor missiles.

DeLauro made the following statement:

"The United States' commitment to the security of our friend and ally Israel is impeccable. It is our legal and moral responsibility to resupply the interceptor missiles used to defend Israel against attacks."

“While this funding is usually included in the year-end spending package, we are now promoting this law to demonstrate the bipartisan commitment of the Israel Security Congress as part of the Middle East with lasting peace.”

- she added.

[Mikhail3]

Well, given that the Patriots shoot down only "those" missiles, and the "wrong" ones are ignored, which was announced to the distressed Saudis right at the fire of the oil refinery, what should be financed? And the United States does not have its own projects and is not foreseen ...

[Zaurbek]

The Israeli lobby in the US is quite strong and influential ..... and few have any competitive schemes. In the USA it is the Phalanx 20mm, in Germany it is the 35mm art system. Whether the Americans compared the effectiveness - I don't know, but they use Falanx

[AAC]

On the dark side, strife began. We stock up on popcorn. Well, that is, we are preparing a lot of export weapons so that the former members of the former NATO buying from us could take revenge on each other.

[Two]

As the incomparable US President Mutalib Abu Zalip ibn Mandalay (Pictures) said in his speech at the next session of the OUN General Assembly ...
(near future)

[sen]

Therefore, a group of left-wing democrats promised to achieve the rejection by Congress of a bill on the allocation of a billion dollars for an Israeli missile defense system, which the United States does not abandon attempts to use at its facilities.

An Israeli system is not needed to defend US territory. But it would be useful to protect foreign bases in hot spots.

[ccsr]

Quote: sen

But it would be useful to protect foreign bases in hot spots.

If this were the case, then the Israeli military-industrial complex would be loaded with American orders for decades to come, given the number of their bases outside the United States.

[Shahno]

I do not think. There are interests of US companies.

[ccsr]

Quote: Shahno

I do not think. There are interests of US companies.

You can't - that's how it will be more accurate.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: sen

An Israeli system is not needed to defend US territory.

Wrong.
Link under the spoiler. Google translator to help you.

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https://www.nationaldefensemagazine.org/articles/2020/12/18/army-plans-next-steps-for-iron-dome-missile-defense

[rotmistr60]

Congress will vote this week to decide on funding for Israel's program

And something tells that this vote will be successful for these representatives. Too much of the Jewish lobby in the United States is doing well. And look at the commentators from Israel who throw mud at our country on this website, write mocking posts about our weapons and the army and at the same time enjoy not only the support of individuals, but also according to many years of analysis and some moderators (a few years ago it was typical moderator Alexander Romanov showed himself) and, unfortunately, some of the administration of the site. It's funny, but the "best commentator" on the site is mainly those who vilify the authorities and the president. Isn't it strange on the military site?

[Shahno]

The result was the following ... Left-wing Democrats only angered the Senate and House of Representatives.
And yet, there is no need to generalize the Israelis, they are different.

[ccsr]

Quote: Shahno

And yet, there is no need to generalize the Israelis, they are different.

This is very noticeable by Privalov and the "professor" on this resource, judging by their perception by forum readers - so you looked right at the root ...

[nikvic46]

"Iron Dome" is just a nice name in the list of different types of air defense. This system only deals well with Palestinian missiles.

[A. Privalov]

Apparently, not everything is as bad as you are trying to show here.

According to trade news and analysis magazine Breaking Defense, Saudi Arabia has approached Israel about the possibility of purchasing missile defense systems.

This is the Iron Dome complex produced by the Israeli defense industry.
The magazine claims that the Israeli Defense Ministry informed him that "Saudi Arabia's interest in Israeli systems has reached a very practical phase."

Some sources also report that Riyadh has been in low-level negotiations with Israel for several years about such systems. Negotiations appeared to pick up steam when it became clear that the United States was about to withdraw its air defenses from the Kingdom.

[nikvic46]

A. Privalov. Well, let the Saudis buy. Negotiations are underway with Ukraine on the Iron Dome. But I am convinced that the speed of these missiles is inferior to those of the world.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: nikvic46

But I am convinced that the speed of these Iron Dome missiles is inferior to those of the world.

The Tamir interceptor is 3 meters long, 0,16 meters in diameter and weighs 90 kg at the start. Speed ​​2,2 max. Tamir missiles are equipped with optoelectronic sensors and rudder stabilizers with proximity fuse warheads. The radius of action is from 4 to 70 km. height 15000 m.
This is only the first level of air defense protection.
Give a global analogue with such parameters, it will be interesting for everyone to meet.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Give a global analogue with such parameters, it will be interesting for everyone to meet.

Never mind. He has nothing to answer. This person just wanted to troll.

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: A. Privalov

This person just wanted to troll.

Yes, but now the others have understood.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: nikvic46

But I am convinced ...

On health, your beliefs form only your personal reality.

[avib]

For the Israelis "Iron dome" - a source of pride, for the American Left Democrats - not only a financial burden, but also confirmation of the militaristic policy of the United States in the Middle Easte.

As in the joke about Vovochka: where is the logic? why? what is the connection?

[ccsr]

For the Israelis, the Iron Dome is a source of pride, for the American Left Democrats, it is not only a financial burden, but also a confirmation of the US militaristic policy in the Middle East. Therefore, a group of left-wing democrats promised to achieve the rejection by Congress of the bill on the allocation of a billion dollars for the Israeli missile defense system, the attempts of which are not abandoned by the United States even at their facilities.

Here is one more confirmation that the Israelis cannot create anything on their own, and are closely based on American technologies. Any specialist understands that this billion is not just green bills, but money allocated for the purchase of the necessary developments from American companies.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

Any specialist understands

Here is an illustrative example of a rather primitive demagogic device called "Appeal to Evidence" or "False Authority"

The demagogue's argumentation begins with expressions like “everyone knows that…”, “obviously…”, “science has long proved…”, “all successful businessmen know that…” and so on. At the same time, on the one hand, the listener's false pride is exploited (if something is presented as "well-known", it can be difficult for him to admit even to himself that he has never heard of it), on the other hand, imaginary authorities are cited who agree with the statement that affects people with low intelligence and, as a result, not capable of critical thinking, who generally tend to trust authorities.

Quote: ccsr

purchase of the necessary developments from American companies

Names of developments and names of companies in the studio.

Quote: ccsr

the Israelis cannot create anything on their own, and they sit tightly on American technologies

That is, the Yankees have difficulties integrating their own technologies into their own air defense network?

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

The demagogue's argument starts with expressions like

Any amateur, not knowing how to analyze the arms market, tries to prove that he understands something in the arms business, not even knowing who is the world leader in a particular industry and who is at what level.
The Israelis are not leaders in anything at all - accept this, since you do not understand the arms business.

Quote: And Us Rat

Names of developments and names of companies in the studio.

As compensation for the peace agreement with the UAE, Israel sent the US a list of weapons to acquire
https://topwar.ru/175312-nziv-v-kachestve-kompensacii-za-mirnoe-soglashenie-s-oaje-izrail-napravil-ssha-spisok-vooruzhenij-dlja-priobretenija.html

Quote: And Us Rat

That is, the Yankees have difficulties integrating their own technologies into their own air defense network?

Americans do not need an Iron Dome in any form at all - is that clear, or do they need to chew?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

Any amateur

The second time on the same rake?
Is the training manual scanty?

Quote: ccsr

purchase of the necessary developments from American companies

What developments and what companies? Will there be an intelligible answer, citizen demagogue?

Quote: ccsr

As compensation for the peace agreement with the UAE, Israel sent the US a list of weapons to acquire

And how does this relate to the topic of discussion?

Quote: ccsr

Americans don't need any Iron Dome at all

That is, they bought it for fun?

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

Is the training manual scanty?

You cannot think without her.

Quote: And Us Rat

What developments and what companies? Will there be an intelligible answer, citizen demagogue?

Study the nomenclature of these companies and you will find everything - in your manual it should be:

A long list of private US companies involved in supplying weapons to Israel include Lockheed Martin, Boeing; According to CAAT, Northrop Grumman, General Dynamics, Ametek, UTC Aerospace and Raytheon ....

Quote: And Us Rat

And how does this relate to the topic of discussion?

The most direct - it confirms that Israel is not able to create something serious in military technology.

Quote: And Us Rat

That is, they bought it for fun?

Of course, for fun - some countries cannot buy equipment from Israel for political reasons, so they use the United States as a gasket. By the way, how many systems have been purchased - how many US divisions or facilities can be covered with these systems, mister liar?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

You cannot think without her.

You are publicly demonstrating primitive demagoguery, not me. And what is written with a pen ...

Quote: ccsr

Explore the range of these companies here ... involved in the supply of weapons to Israel

No, a citizen demagogue, answer the question posed, and not what is convenient for you.
It was not about the finished weapon, it was about "development" (I am quoting you verbatim).
So what are the developments and which companies have? Do not play around, answer to the point.

Quote: ccsr

The most direct - it confirms that Israel is not able to create something serious in military technology.

How exactly does this confirm? Build a visual logical chain? I am curious.
France, for example, imports cars, South Korea's televisions, and the United States imports smartphones, but this does not mean that they do not know how to produce their own. Or "is it different"?

Quote: ccsr

mister liar

And what exactly did I lie about, Mr. Slanderer? Quote, work hard, with a refutation.
Oh, it's a pity we are not in the 16th century, I would gladly stab you with a sword in a duel.

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

No, a citizen demagogue, answer the question posed, and not what is convenient for you.

What makes you think that I am obliged to present this information to you - I do not have enough mind to find myself that the same Patriot systems have been in service with the IDF Air Force since 1991, when the territory of Israel was subjected to rocket attacks from Iraq.

Quote: And Us Rat

So what are the developments and which companies have? Do not play around, answer to the point.

You are not my boss in order to demand from me what you yourself cannot refute - this method of yours is well described in the training manuals and you deftly use it. But not everyone buys into your demagoguery - keep this in mind.

Quote: And Us Rat

I am curious.

And what of it? Maybe you yourself will find the information if you are so unbearable.

Quote: And Us Rat

And what exactly did I lie about, Mr. Slanderer?

In the number of purchased complexes - you were afraid to name the number, that's why you are a liar, because it will immediately become clear that this system is not being adopted by the US Army.

Quote: And Us Rat

Oh, it's a pity we are not in the 16th century, I would gladly stab you with a sword in a duel.

You are clearly inadequate in your assessment of the situation - these are exactly what the Israeli propaganda is designed for, and you are only a victim of it, or, most likely, an employee of the Israeli propaganda apparatus yourself. Regular or voluntary, in principle, it does not matter - but you are lying smartly.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

What makes you think that I am obliged to provide you with this information

Because this is how the controversy is arranged, whoever asserts something is to be "responsible for the market, if not bullshit."

Quote: ccsr

the same Patriot systems have been in service with the IDF Air Force since 1991

And the 80-mm mortars, from 1947, and? How does this generally relate to your statement that "Israel buys the necessary developments from American companies." By the way, this statement is still in the category of "bullshit", since you (I remind you) were caught in demagoguery and stubbornly evade an answer to the point.

Quote: ccsr

You are not my boss to claim

That is, you publicly sign that you have nothing to confirm your words with.

Quote: ccsr

you yourself can not refute

I can, but I repeat, this polemic does not work, your assertions must be proved to you, even in court it is so established, the accusation proves the guilt of the accused, and not vice versa. You put forward an accusatory statement against Israel, and you need to prove it. This is if you do not want to be branded as a windbag, of course. Your word is not girlish chatter, is it?

Quote: ccsr

In the number of purchased complexes - you were afraid to name the number, which is why you are a liar

Are you in trouble with the semantics of the Russian language? Don't you understand the meaning of the word lie? Is Russian not your first language?
Once again, quote where did I lie? Citizen riveter and demagogue.
Your statement is doubly absurd, since the quantity in the context of the previous discussion did not carry a semantic load, from the word at all, it was about the very fact of deliveries in the context of a completely different topic.
Do not disgrace.

Quote: ccsr

You are clearly inadequate about the situation

Another unfounded statement, in other words - "bullshit". I will not even ask for arguments, you do not have them, you are an outspoken weakling in polemics.

Quote: ccsr

Israeli propaganda

The fruit of your imagination.

Quote: ccsr

you are lying

Vile slander. What do you clearly confirm, avoiding answers to uncomfortable questions, like a flirtatious girl.

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

And the 80-mm mortars, from 1947, and?

And this means that Israel cannot even create its own analogue of the ancient Patriot.

Quote: And Us Rat

By the way, this statement is still in the category of "bullshit"

For you, it may be bullshit, but for those who know how modern military-industrial complexes work, it is quite obvious that there are simply no intellectual or production resources in Israel to keep up with modern developments. That is why the Americans give him some developments, in the form of assistance.

Quote: And Us Rat

You have made an accusatory statement against Israel,

Don't lie - I just said that people like you are just lying about the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex, which have created only one development based on their achievements - this is "Uzi". And that's it ...

Quote: And Us Rat

Vile slander. What do you clearly confirm, avoiding answers to uncomfortable questions, like a flirtatious girl.

You have no arguments at all, just a demand - "and prove it to me, because I am a complete ignoramus in this matter."
Burn on, in the secret hope that someone will buy into your demagoguery.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

And this means

How can you build a causal chain?

Quote: ccsr

but for those who know

And again, "Appeal to Evidence" or "False Authority". How many times are you caught on rotten demagogic tricks?

Quote: ccsr

I just said that people like you are just lying about the achievements of the Israeli military-industrial complex

Here you are again caught on insolent nonsense , you said, I quote:

Quote: ccsr

Israelis can't create anything on their own

The semantics of these phrases are completely different. Shame on you.

Quote: ccsr

You have no arguments at all

You should have them, in this case you are "in charge of the bazaar", not me.

Quote: ccsr

your demagoguery

You are repeatedly and publicly caught in demagoguery, and you are trying to transfer it to others, and even so unfounded. You are a pathological slanderer.

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

The semantics of these phrases are completely different. Shame on you.

Quote: And Us Rat

You are repeatedly and publicly caught in demagoguery,

Quote: And Us Rat

You are a pathological slanderer.

Leave your mantras for preaching, or better, provide evidence of at least one development of the Israeli military-industrial complex, which would be the best in the world.

[And Us Rat]

In short, you are a switchman and demagogue.
When you start to answer on the merits, then I will answer you.
In the meantime, we will put the shameful drain on your account.

[Vitaly gusin]

[quote = ccsr] Any amateur not knowing how to analyze the arms market, he is trying to prove that he understands something in the arms business, [/ quote]
Self-criticism is good.
Israel increased its arms exports by 77% in 2015-2019, compared to the five previous years, and is currently the eighth largest arms exporter in the world, according to new data published Monday by the Stockholm International Peace Research Institute.

The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) has published its latest report on Trends in International Arms Transfers. second biggest arms exporter. According to SIPIR's report, Russian arms exports decreased by 22% t between 2011-15 and 2016-20.

Given your negative attitude towards everything that is not Russian translation for you.

Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Israel increases arms exports by 77 percent in 2015-2019 compared to five previous years and is currently the eighth largest arms exporter in the world.

The Stockholm International Peace Research Institute (SIPRI) has published its latest report on trends in international arms transfers, the second largest arms exporter. According to the SIPIR report, from 2011-15 to 2016-2020 Russian arms exports fell by 22% tonnes.
HOW MUCH DO YOU SPEAK HALVA, PONTS ARE EXPENSIVE!

[ccsr]

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

Stockholm International Peace Research Institute, Israel increased its arms exports by 77 percent in 2015-2019 over the previous five years and is now the eighth largest arms exporter in the world.

This is the temperature in the hospital - what Israel produces is not necessary for developed countries, due to the fact that they themselves produce better weapons. Well, the Israeli lobby even knows how to bribe sports referees at the Olympics and undeservedly give gold medals to weak Israeli athletes. The same is true in the arms market - Israel's backward weapons are sold to Georgians, Azerbaijanis, Ukrainians, Africans and other undeveloped countries. The Israelis have succeeded in this - I will not argue.

Quote: Vitaly Gusin

According to the SIPIR report, from 2011–15 to 2016–2020, Russian arms exports decreased by 22%.

This does not mean that Russia is not a world leader in the development and production of weapons - it just surpasses Western models so much that even Turkey was trying to bend it with the help of bribery and protection measures when it bought the S-400. As they say, comments are superfluous ...

[A. Privalov]

Vitaly, ccsr always rolls a barrel to Israel. He will contradict you in everything. On white, it will speak black, and on black, white. Then, assertions will begin that everything that Israel does is nonsense, that there is nothing but how to spit with millet through a straw.
Further, he will begin to ask rhetorical questions and demand answers to them, translate arrows and wriggle, catch you on some trifles and accuse you of lying, switch to your personal qualities and just in the end be rude and rude. Then, make some fantastic statements passing them off as facts, and when you ask where he got it, he will send you to look for this nonsense on the Internet, etc. etc. And also, he knows how to turn on a stupid one, misinterpret and rewrite your words and repeat the same thing in a stupid way several times.
I have already gone through this and simply do not answer him.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: A. Privalov

Vitaly, ccsr always rolls a barrel to Israel. He will contradict you in everything. On white, it will speak black, and on black, white. Then, assertions will begin that everything that Israel does is nonsense, that there is nothing but how to spit with millet through a straw.
Further, he will begin to ask rhetorical questions and demand answers to them, translate arrows and wriggle, catch you on some trifles and accuse you of lying, switch to your personal qualities and just in the end be rude and rude. Then, make some fantastic statements passing them off as facts, and when you ask where he got it, he will send you to look for this nonsense on the Internet, etc. etc. And also, he knows how to turn on a stupid one, misinterpret and rewrite your words and repeat the same thing in a stupid way several times.
I have already gone through this and simply do not answer him.

Sometimes it’s funny, you don’t even need to strain, he himself perfectly exposes himself to ridicule.
A visual aid to the incompatibility of anti-Semitism and intelligence.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: And Us Rat

A visual aid to the incompatibility of anti-Semitism and intelligence

You know, there are also very clever anti-Semites. An example is the late professor of mathematics Shafarevich. Solving the inverse problem of Galois theory for solvable groups did not prevent him from being a completely insane anti-Semite.
Another thing is that to be an anti-Semite of great intelligence is not required.

Once the famous psychiatrist Professor Mikhail Osipovich Gurevich gave a lecture to young colleagues about Alzheimer's disease. As an example of the audience, a patient was presented with this ailment in a severe form. She could no longer even give her name, or what time of year it was outside, or where she came from. But to the question of who brought her to the lecture, she answered with unexpected malice: “w — s”.
Hearing this, Gurevich remarked, not without irony: “You see how little intelligence is needed to be an anti-Semite” ...

[ccsr]

Quote: A. Privalov

I have already gone through this and simply do not answer him.

Privalov crumbled when it suddenly became clear that his scientific activity was not at all the one he was trying to tell about, talking about his work in St. Petersburg. But do not despair - I understand that your fix idea is to tell everyone how well you settled in Israel, maybe someone will take it for the truth and your work will not be lost.
But keep in mind, not everyone believes that your life in the USSR was bad - your fellow tribesmen lived very well, but natural greed won, so now you are clearing up the mistakes of the past. But it’s not my fault, for sure ...

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: A. Privalov

I have already gone through this and simply do not answer him.

I use it as a wall, a background on which graffiti is painted and everyone who passes through sees what I wanted to show. But no one has a desire to discuss the subject on which it is written.

[Shahno]

Quote: ccsr

For the Israelis, the Iron Dome is a source of pride, for the American Left Democrats, it is not only a financial burden, but also a confirmation of the US militaristic policy in the Middle East. Therefore, a group of left-wing democrats promised to achieve the rejection by Congress of the bill on the allocation of a billion dollars for the Israeli missile defense system, the attempts of which are not abandoned by the United States even at their facilities.

Here is one more confirmation that the Israelis cannot create anything on their own, and are closely based on American technologies. Any specialist understands that this billion is not just green bills, but money allocated for the purchase of the necessary developments from American companies.

Quote: rocket757

Opponents of Israel's Iron Dome funding criticized in the US

If you don't want tsuzoe, do your own ... although, what is the main reason for such a position ???

Well, dream.
And that's why there was a line behind him.

[A. Privalov]

For those interested in the topic:
In early August last year, the American company Raytheon Missiles & Defense announced the creation of a joint venture with the Israeli defense complex RAFAEL to produce the Iron Dome air defense system.

The new facility, which will be based in the United States, is named Raytheon RAFAEL Area Protection Systems (RRAPS).

The company said in a press release that the RRAPS full-cycle Iron Dome plant will be the first outside Israel.
Sam Deneck, Vice President of Land and Air Defense Division at Raytheon:

"It will allow the US Department of Defense and allied countries to acquire missile defense systems to protect troops and infrastructure."

It is assumed that the enterprise will produce the Iron Dome installation with Tamir missiles, as well as the SkyHunter short-range air defense missile system developed by Raytheon, and, thus, the RRAPS products will provide protection against all levels of air threats from missiles to unmanned aerial vehicles.

It is this enterprise that will receive the 1 billion greenbacks requested by Israel. It is at this enterprise that Tamir missiles will be manufactured to replenish the ammunition stock of the Iron Dome installations in Israel.
A short-range air defense missile system SkyHunter developed by Raytheon. (There are credits. You can make a translation)

[ccsr]

Quote: A. Privalov

It is this enterprise that will receive the 1 billion greenbacks requested by Israel. It is at this enterprise that Tamir missiles will be manufactured to replenish the ammunition stock of the Iron Dome installations in Israel.

Here is one more proof that the Americans do not believe in the reliability of the production of the Israeli military-industrial complex, which is why they do not want to invest in the production of missiles on the territory of Israel - as they say, but the little chest was just opening. And of course, one should not exclude their desire to simply cash in on this deal by supplying these complexes to Islamic countries under their own brand, which do not trade with Israel. This does not say anything about the quality of the Israeli complexes - the Americans simply understand that they will not protect their troops, because they do not even protect them from Hamas' home-made products.

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

Here's more proof

And what is it?

[ccsr]

Quote: And Us Rat

And what is it?

The fact is that the Americans do not trust the Israeli military-industrial complex in the production of sophisticated military equipment, knowing that there are no personnel there for such production. Moreover, the new missiles can use advanced American developments, and this is another reason to organize production in the United States.
Do you know anything about the military-industrial complex, or have you just learned to ask stupid questions?

[And Us Rat]

Quote: ccsr

That Americans Don't Trust

This is not evidence, but speculation. Do you even understand the difference?

[Teador]

? Rashida Tlaib She opposed the financing of the Israeli "Iron Dome" IN THE SCARF FROM ALA Arafat IS VERY SIMPLE SHE IS A PALISTINE. And as for the Israeli military-industrial complex for such a small country, they are among the top ten countries selling weapons, not to mention the latest technologies. HOW THE IRON DOME LIKE IT OR NOT

[Vitaly gusin]

Quote: Teador

IN THE WORLD THERE IS NOT ONE ANY SYSTEM OF AIR DEFENSE ROLLED IN AS AN IRON DOME WE LIKE IT OR NOT

And there is no such system in the world either. Height over 100 km., Range 4200 km., Has been in service since 2017. Tests not in Alaska because there is no test distance in Israel.

[Codett]

Come on, does anyone really think that the Americans have started counting money.

[Reserve buildbat]

"After all, under Republican Donald Trump, the United States showed a much more pro-Israel attitude than it does now."
It's strange, and why not, given Trump's son-in-law and other Jewish days.

[Iris]

The "Left Democrats" referred to in the article are not so much Democrats as the pro-Palestinian lobby in Congress - a flock of shocking congressmen who do not represent on this issue not only the opinion of the Congress as a whole, but even the position of the Democratic Party itself. And, as already noted by colleagues, their demarche has nothing to do with either the cost of the LCD missile defense or its technical characteristics, but is an exclusively political hype.

Trump spoke well about these "people's choices" at one time:
"It is interesting to observe" progressive "women-democrats in Congress, who came to us from countries where governments are a complete and absolute disaster, the worst, most corrupt and incompetent anywhere in the world (if there is any government at all), and now loudly and viciously pointing out to the people of the United States how to treat the government of our country.
Why don't they go home and help change the completely destroyed and crime-ridden places they've come from? Then let them come back and tell us how it should be. "