Turkish firm unveils turbojet rocket engine

In recent years, Turkey has been actively advancing in the field of its own military developments. For example, the Turkish company Kale R&D recently released the KTJ-3200, the first Turkish-made rocket engine to be used in the Atmaca rocket. Ankara plans to launch the first missiles equipped with KTJ-3200 as early as 2022.

Kale R&D is developing turbojet engines for the OMGF Roketsan medium-range anti-ship missile system and Tubitak Sage's Kuzgun-TJ smart ammunition.

On August 17-20, Istanbul hosted the International Exhibition of the Military Industry, at which a contract was signed for the serial production of a new rocket engine. The project itself began to be developed in 2012, when it was decided to provide import substitution in the field of rocket engines.

According to Defense News, the architecture of the KTJ-3200 engine is similar to the French TR40 engine. True, the latter is more economical and lightweight, but the performance of the Turkish and French engines is not much different. It is also worth noting that the KTJ-3200 was manufactured at its own expense. In Turkey, the development is called the first important step of the domestic industry towards further development. aviation engines. The KTJ-3200 is capable of supporting the missile's flight throughout its entire mission, that is, for about 20 minutes.

By the way, the KTJ-3200 was specially designed for use on Turkish-made cruise missiles and unmanned aerial vehicles. The first Turkish Gökbey helicopter will be powered by the TS1400 engine developed by Tusas Engine Industries.

As for the KTJ-3200, its real capabilities were tested at the test site of the Kale R&D Center for Development and Testing. In particular, the engine has been tested for endurance, water ingress, deformation, and its environmental performance has been checked.

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[tralflot1832]

One-time engine, with a limited resource, make shmogli.

[Invoce]

Quote: tralflot1832

One-time engine, with a limited resource, make shmogli.

only I. Musk has reusable rocket motors
In products carrying warheads, they are all disposable and with a "limited" resource

[Lunin_K21]

Leaving aside the sectarianism of the Musk name, the first reusable rocket engines were installed on Comet Me.163 80 years ago. The pilots had that job, but the fact is the fact, why should the Mask inflate like an owl on the globe.

[Lunin_K21]

In the USSR, Kostikov at the same time had a reusable hybrid with a 302P liquid propellant rocket engine.

[Peak]

Quote: tralflot1832

One-time engine, with a limited resource, make shmogli.

Whatever it was, but for a cruise missile - already an option.

[tralflot1832]

Duc and the Chinese make a one-time engine, and so do we.

[Peak]

Quote: tralflot1832

Duc and the Chinese make a one-time engine.

We, too, at one time did not start with super-engines.

The road is mastered by the walking one.

[tralflot1832]

I remember Korolev at the age of 30 began with a belt lamp, and in 1957, how it happened, even the Americans did not understand how, they did not bomb us. My grandfather still lived in a dugout.

[Peak]

Quote: tralflot1832

I remember Korolev in 30 years began with a belt lamp

Not from the 30s, but much earlier, in a country ravaged by world and civil war.

[Aviator_]

The illustration seems to be by Robert Avotin. He designed "Technology-Youth" in the 60-80s.

[Storog dvornik]

In TM in the 80-86 years of the twentieth century, there was an article about the Queen, about how he and his friends extracted gunpowder from shells and glued a rocket from papier-mâché and a blowtorch on wheels was launched on a steel cable ... Illustration from that article .. ...

[Aviator_]

If the illustration is from TM, then it is undoubtedly Robert Avotin. He died in 1990.

[Storog dvornik]

You publish the covers of earlier issues of TM in the 70s (there was a filing of the 60-70s, you don't need the Internet ... you didn't save it), the specified illustration and an article about the Queen of the 80s ...

[Aviator_]

Yes, I remember it, I saw it, but by this time I hadn’t subscribed to TM. It was about a wonderful illustrator.

[Mavrikiy]

Quote: tralflot1832

Duc and the Chinese make a one-time engine, and so do we.

A lot of people do, but not many can sell technologies for a bubble and a piece of bacon, and it could not do without them.

So, recently the Turkish company Kale R&D released the KTJ-3200 - the first Turkish-made rocket engine,

[orionvitt]

Quote: PiK

Whatever it was, but for a cruise missile - already an option

For the winged - yes, for the winged anti-ship - no. A cruise missile with a turbojet engine, which is good, it flies, albeit at a subsonic speed, but hides behind the folds of the terrain. Anti-ship such as the X-35, fly over the sea, albeit low, but still as in the palm of your hand, and were a novelty in the years, so this is in the 70s. Today, they go astray. It's still okay as an option, against various barefoot aborigines and such powerful countries as Ukraine.

[voyaka uh]

"low, but still in full view" ///
---
As in the palm of your hand - only from the air.
From the plane.
The ship's radars cut them at the last moment if the anti-ship missiles are made with stealth technology. IR optics also see them poorly above the surface.
The transonic speed is quite enough to gently close the ship into the side.

[orionvitt]

Quote: voyaka uh

The transonic speed is quite enough to gently close the ship on board.

If any scow, then enough. A modern warship, no. Or is it different in your Israel?

[knn54]

ONLY four countries - Great Britain, Russia, the USA and France - possess full-cycle technologies for creating modern AIRCRAFT turbojet engines.

[Peak]

Turkish company Kale R&D has released the KTJ-3200, the first Turkish-made rocket engine to be used in the Atmaca rocket.

The layout of the Kara Atmaca cruise missile (RCC) developed by the Turkish company Roketsan at the exposition of the IDEF-2021 defense industrial exhibition in Istanbul, August 2021.

[Comrade Kim]

Quote: URAL72

Turks are on the right track, but I don't like it

This is not to anyone's liking.
But our effective managers of Luntik profiled Ukraine.
Now our Motherland has received Erdogan, who has recognized the annexation of Crimea (hello to the multi-pass mastrubators).
And the Ukrainians will continue to gleefully sell the remnants of the Soviet legacy.
We are waiting for the next, deep concern of the Ministry of Foreign Affairs for Janissary's demarche about Crimea, or again they will wipe up the snot at the top and say that Crimea is not recognized here either (Sber Herman Oskarovich).
Another such breakthrough of scrapers, and Yuzhnoye KB will open a branch in Antalya.
And we will get the friend of the Supreme with the Turkish Governor on the database.

[Orange bigg]

... But our effective managers Luntik profiled Ukraine.

The loss is not great. For so many years, they were actually kept for nothing through various preferences, benefits, discounts on gas, provided orders for their factories, and they chose the EU. How many wolves you feed, but he keeps looking into the forest. It’s just the same to stop subsidizing the industry of another country and to rely on our own production is the right step, tortured by the bitter experience of previous cooperation with Ukraine. As a result, we are now making our own engines for helicopters and ships. And the money remains in their country.

Now our Motherland has received Erdogan, who has recognized the annexation of Crimea (hello to the multi-pass mastrubators).

Erdogan has been voicing this position for many years and nothing has changed since 2014.

... And the Ukrainians will continue to gleefully sell the remnants of the Soviet legacy.

And what is there to sell? They have sold everything for a long time? In addition to Motor Sich and Zorya-Mashproekt, there are no special secrets there.

Another such breakthrough of scrapers, and Yuzhnoye KB will open a branch in Antalya.
And we will get the friend of the Supreme with the Turkish Governor on the database.

Well, you have a fantasy, dear. Today's Ukraine is not able to make an OTRK, and you swung at the Voevoda, the components for the production of which were produced throughout the Union. And even if you fantasize about Erdogan's ICBMs in order to fight the United States? So the Americans will bury him alive for this together with Ukraine.

The role of the Yuzhnoye design bureau in the creation of the Voevoda complex is undoubtedly enormous. However, it is necessary to mention all the co-executors of the grandiose project, many of whom in this development have said a new word in their field. This is formally reflected by the number of registered inventions during the work on the topic.

PO "Southern Machine-Building Plant" (Dnepropetrovsk) - missile manufacturing;

PO "Avangard" - manufacturing of a transport and launch container;

KB "Electropriborostroeniya" - development of a missile control system;

NPO "Rotor" - development of a complex of command devices;

Design Bureau of the Arsenal plant - development of an aiming system;

KB "Energomash" - development of the rocket first stage engine;

KB "Khimavtomatiki" - development of the rocket second stage engine;

KBSM - development of a combat launch complex;

TsKBTM - development of a command post;

GOKB "Prozhektor" - development of a power supply system;

NPO Impulse - development of a remote control and monitoring system;

KBTHM - development of a filling system.

In addition, several more both industrial and academic research institutes conducted a number of research projects that allowed the performers to obtain the set parameters of the complex.

https://svpressa.ru/war21/article/129278/

... The missile was created by the Yuzhnoye design bureau (Dnepropetrovsk) to replace the heavy R-36. Supervised the development of M.K. Yangel, after his death in 1971 - V.F.Utkin. For the first stage, the main engine RD-264, developed at KB Energomash (Khimki, Moscow region), was adopted, for the second stage, the RD-0228 engine, developed by KB Khimiavtomatika (Voronezh). The autonomous inertial guidance system was developed by NII-692 (Kharkov), while for the first time in our country an onboard digital computer (BTsVM) was used. The complex of means for overcoming the Lavr missile defense system was developed at the Moscow Central Research Institute of Radio Engineering and Technology. The development of silo launchers for R-36M missiles was carried out by the Design Bureau of Special Engineering in Leningrad. Powder pressure accumulators for the mortar launch of the rocket were created by the Lyubertsy NPO "Soyuz". The head enterprise for the development of a unified protected command post of the missile complex was the Central Design Bureau of Heavy Engineering (Moscow). The production of missiles was organized at the Southern Machine-Building Plant in Dnepropetrovsk.

... In accordance with the Government Decree of August 9, 1983, the Yuzhnoye Design Bureau headed by VF Utkin launched work on the R-36M2 rocket. It was primarily about ensuring a guaranteed delivery of a retaliatory oncoming strike in the conditions of the enemy's use of nuclear weapons against ICBM positions and the breakthrough by combat units of a promising enemy missile defense system.

NPO Elektropribor (formerly NII-692) developed a radiation-resistant guidance system, Minsk NPO Integral - the element base, KB Energomash - first stage engines, KB Chemical Automatics - second stage engines. In the Design Bureau of Mechanical Engineering (Kolomna), a complex was created for active protection of launchers from nuclear warheads and high-precision weapons of the enemy.

https://warfor.me/raketyi-r-36m-i-r-36m2-voevoda/

[Evil troll]

Now

And earlier he seemed to recognize the Crimea as Russian

[Avior]

Excuse me, but what is this then?
https://ivchenko-progress.com/?page_id=137&lang=ru

[dauria]

ONLY four countries - UK, Russia, USA and France

China continues to be overlooked? Oh well. But few people remember that the Vietnamese fought with the Americans on the Chinese MiG-17. With an unlicensed copy of the English Nin engine, bought by Stalin and produced in the USSR and ... China. With Chinese advisors and techies. And our specialists in these parts were not favored. Interesting, right?

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: tralflot1832

One-time engine, with a limited resource, make shmogli.

Specialists from Yuzhmash ... It is not for nothing that Erdogash creeps around the Svidoukrov like a tempter like a serpent! Here is the result .. Never will I believe that the Turks could invent something ... Except platmass tomatoes ... and other shit ...

[Vadim237]

With tank engines for the Altai tank, they did not shmogli - for this they run between the Germans and Koreans to get the engines.

[Reserve buildbat]

1. This is a limited resource turbojet engine. Like everyone else.
2. Turbine engines for cruise missiles in Russia are made with a resource of 10 flights, although there will be only one flight.
3. To create a turbojet engine for the Kyrgyz Republic is not an easy task, but the Turks are trying hard to solve it, which commands respect.
Conclusion: Let's unanimously wish the Turks to fail brilliantly in all their endeavors!

[Yuriy71]

Did you understand what you wrote?)))) Don't make people laugh with such comments)))

[Nafanya from the sofa]

turbojet rocket engine

So turbojet or rocket? Or "what difference does it make to you."

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Nafanya from the couch

So turbojet or rocket? Or "what difference does it make to you."

Disposable turbojet for cruise missiles. Not a liquid-propellant engine. But still disposable.

[Nafanya from the sofa]

I quoted the absolutely illiterate title of the article. And I do not need your comments not on the case. Council - first read carefully, and then, after thinking, write.

[URAL72]

AL-7 - prototype. Notable for a conical unregulated nozzle. Made in March 1953.
AL-7PB - non-afterburner. Instead of the afterburner, a rigid, unregulated jet nozzle is installed. Produced since 1961. Installed on the Be-10, Tu-110.
AL-7F-1 - the first production version. Notable for its direct-flow afterburner. Produced since 1959. Installed on Su-7, Su-7B.
AL-7F-2 - modernized. It featured a new second turbine stage, eighth and ninth compressor stages, and an enlarged afterburner. Produced since 1960. Installed on Su-9, Su-11.
AL-7F-4 - forced. Produced since 1962.
AL-7FK - short-life for the Kh-20M missile. It was distinguished by a converging nozzle, a speed regulator, an expanded turbine nozzle ring, and blades made of an EI-867 alloy. Produced since 1958.

The AL-7 initially had a resource of only 50 hours, then it was brought up to 300 hours. In many ways it was a unique engine, the compression ratio for the first time in the world reached ten. The Turks are on the right track, but I don't like it. Especially considering that Ukraine is ready to sell any technology to anyone. Therefore, the Sultan supports Kiev.

[Undecim]

turbojet rocket engine

It seems to be a serious resource, can’t the authors really learn to understand that rocket jet engines (RD) and air-jet engines (WFM) are two different types of engines, and even the installation of a WFD on a rocket does not make it rocket.

[The leader of the Redskins]

What are you talking about, colleague? Here, many still do not realize that a new player / enemy has appeared in the region.

[Jacket in stock]

About environmental friendliness amused.

[rocket757]

Turkish firm unveils turbojet rocket engine

... No wonder they are friends with Kukuevsky, no wonder.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Bulgaria, with a policy of bans on the construction of pipelines through its territory, provided Turkey with prosperity for decades to come. This is where the failed Burgas-Alexandroupolis is, and this is where the failed South Stream. All pipes to Europe from the South now go through Turkey. Turkey, having bound all geopolitical opponents with pipes hand and foot, is doing what it wants.

[Dkuznecov]

Not all [pipes]. Qatari pipe was stopped by Syria
and her ally. In the interests of South Stream (Gazprom), of course.

[TermNachTer]

The prototype is not a serial product yet. And this path can turn out to be long and difficult, although they can quietly buy RD - 95 from Motor and adapt it to their rocket.

[75 Sergey]

Well done ... and it's upsetting.

[Kushka]

Quote: PiK

Quote: tralflot1832

Duc and the Chinese make a one-time engine.

We, too, at one time did not start with super-engines.
The road is mastered by the walking one.

Time flies inexorably (It seems like I was in the bath yesterday, but I haven't bathed for a month!).
And the Chinese are no longer the same Chinese, and the Turks are no longer the same Turks.
В

[Mavrikiy]

True, the latter is more economical and lightweight, but performance Turkish and French engines are not much different.

Who can explain sho tse take? So many smart words ...

[Undecim]

Who can explain sho tse take?

This is a Google translation by a person who knows neither the topic nor the language.
The guletransleitor issues the first translation. So he translated the English performance as performance. But in this case, performance is translated as "characteristics".
That is, in normal language it should be like this: "The design of the KTJ-3200 engine is similar to the French TR40 engine. Although the TR40 is lighter and more economical, the difference in performance is negligible compared to the KTJ-3200.

[Mavrikiy]

Thanks. All clear.

[Borisych]

Turkish thought is developing. It's good. When there are thoughts.

[ja-ja-vw]

Quote: Ilya Polonsky

Turkish firm presented a turbojet rocket engine

the author anneals. I thought for the IBR they developed or for something the Turks stirred up ...

Rocket engine (RD) is kind of jet engine, the working fluid and the energy source of which located directly on board the aircraft... This is its main difference from jet engines. Thus, the RD does not depend on atmospheric oxygen and therefore can be used for flights in outer (airless) space. The rocket engine is the only practically mastered method of launching a payload into orbit around the Earth.

The little box of "successes" of the Turks just opens up.
2016 Kale Group Vice President Osman OKYAY said that the KTJ-3200 engine, which can reach 38000 rpm and develop 900 hp, exploded 5 times during development, but they successfully passed all the difficult tests.

It will be used primarily in SOM missiles. By the end of 2020, we plan to conduct fire tests of these missiles. Then it will be possible to start mass production for 100+

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2021: Zaporozhye machine-building design bureau "Progress" them. Academician A. G. Ivchenko signed a number of contracts for the supply of components for 12 AI-35 turbojet engines. The Ukrainian unit, among other things, is being developed for a promising Turkish rocket of the Gezgin project

The unit with a dry weight of 61 kg develops a maximum thrust of 310 kgf. Specific fuel consumption in cruising mode is 1,4 kg / kgf-h.

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as with MC400 before for us ... now for Turks

[VicktorVR]

No power, no thrust, no mass
What is the news about?
Did the Turks somehow manage to copy something from the French?

[Yves762]

Turkish cars, Turkish UAVs, Turkish washing machines, ...
Now here are the rocket turbojet engines ... also Turkish.
But this is not just import substitution. It is also creation own industry.
It turns out that it is still possible at the present time; and competitors are not a hindrance, if desired. .

[gridasov]

For Turkey, this is unconditional progress. However, for the leading technologically developed countries with both experience and a complex of understanding and production of turbines, Turkish achievements do not represent any competition. This is what is called the advanced development of scientific and technological achievements. Now this parameter is more and more important.