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Victory Day of Russian regiments in the Battle of Kulikovo

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Today our country celebrates the Victory Day of the Russian regiments in the Battle of Kulikovo. At the legislative level, this memorable date was fixed on March 13, 1995.

It should be noted that the battle on the Kulikovo field not only became the most important milestone in stories Russia, but also in general predetermined the further development of our state.

Recall that in the grandiose battle with the Mongol-Tatars, which took place on September 21 (8th according to the old style), 1380, more than 100 thousand Russian soldiers took part, led by the Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy. Moreover, it was the victory in the Battle of Kulikovo that marked the beginning of the liberation of Russia from the yoke of the Golden Horde.

By the end of the XIV century, the Mongol yoke was going through hard times. The Golden Horde, whose khan was the senior emir Mamai, was already beginning to disintegrate. At the same time, opposite processes were taking place in Russia. Under the leadership of the Moscow principality, the unification of the Russian lands took place, which naturally could not but alarm the Mongol ruler.

The first attempt to "pacify" the Moscow principality Mamai made in 1378, sending an army to Russia under the leadership of Murza Begich. The latter was defeated, and then, having entered into an alliance with the Lithuanian prince Yagailo and the Ryazan Oleg, in the summer of 1380, Mamai set off on a long campaign against Russia.

Having learned about the plans of the Mongol Khan, Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy gathered a 100-thousandth squad and also went on a campaign to meet the enemy beyond the Don, not allowing to join up with the allied troops.

Early in the morning, September 21, 1380, Dmitry Donskoy's squad and the arriving Mamai troops deployed in a linear battle formation on both sides of the Kulikovo field.

The beginning of the battle was marked by a full-time battle between the Russian and Mongolian soldiers. Both died. Then the Tatar cavalry rushed into battle.

The Russians suffered significant losses, but they survived. Then the Mongol Khan decided to throw all available forces into battle in order to "crush" the enemy. The squad of the Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy found itself in an unenviable position and even there was a threat of encirclement.

However, the course of the battle was reversed by the Ambush Regiment, which stabbed the Horde troops who had broken through in the back and served as a signal for the offensive of the entire Moscow army, which ultimately led to the flight of the Mongol-Tatars.

The victory of the army of Dmitry Donskoy was complete and unconditional, and the battle on the Kulikovo field became the most important milestone in the struggle of the Russian people against the yoke of the Golden Horde.

However, one should not forget what price the Russian army paid for such an important victory. The soldiers who died in the battle were collected and buried in mass graves for a week after the battle.

Finally, it is worth adding that at the time of the flight of the Mongol-Tatars, Yagail's army was already 40 km from the battlefield. However, having learned about the defeat of Mamai, the Lithuanian prince hastily set off on his way.
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  1. Maz
    Maz 21 September 2021 09: 11
    0
    I would add that after the battle Dmitry Donskoy freed all Russian people from taxes for twenty years, such terrible losses for Russia, in fact, saved Europe, Mamai, if he won, would go further
    1. Nasrat
      Nasrat 21 September 2021 09: 26
      0
      This story was slightly distorted and embellished ... already in 1381 Tokhtamysh sent an ambassador to Moscow to call Dmitry Donskoy. The prince refused to pay tribute and go to the Horde. Then Tokhtamysh, having gathered an army, moved to Russia in 1382. Dmitry Donskoy fled Moscow, and the city itself was completely burned by Tokhtamysh. And the Kulikovo field-2 did not happen .... neither the father-in-law from Nizhny Novgorod, nor the prince Oleg came to help him ... Just graters between the Genghis for the right to be the legitimate Khan .. And Mamai took the wrong place, the place of the Khan .. Dmitry Donskoy imagines himself the winner of the Horde, in fact he was allowed to defeat the usurper and called to Toktamysh in order to confirm his vassal dependence. Dmitry disobeyed .. For which Moscow was burned .. And Mamai, after he was beaten by Tokhtamysh, hid in the Crimea, where he died.
      1. ultra
        ultra 21 September 2021 10: 23
        +3
        Quote: Nasr
        The prince refused to pay tribute and go to the Horde.

        He did not refuse to pay at all, refused to pay an increased output (tax), modern historians say that it was precisely within the state tax).
      2. Vend
        Vend 21 September 2021 10: 42
        0
        Quote: Nasr
        This story was slightly distorted and embellished ... already in 1381 Tokhtamysh sent an ambassador to Moscow to call Dmitry Donskoy. The prince refused to pay tribute and go to the Horde. Then Tokhtamysh, having gathered an army, moved to Russia in 1382. Dmitry Donskoy fled Moscow, and the city itself was completely burned by Tokhtamysh. And the Kulikovo field-2 did not happen .... neither the father-in-law from Nizhny Novgorod, nor the prince Oleg came to help him ... Just graters between the Genghis for the right to be the legitimate Khan .. And Mamai took the wrong place, the place of the Khan .. Dmitry Donskoy imagines himself the winner of the Horde, in fact he was allowed to defeat the usurper and called to Toktamysh in order to confirm his vassal dependence. Dmitry disobeyed .. For which Moscow was burned .. And Mamai, after he was beaten by Tokhtamysh, hid in the Crimea, where he died.

        Tokhtamysh could not take Moscow, only at the cost of betrayal the khan managed to enter the city and burn it. And the further flight of Tokhtamysh from Russia, when two armies under the leadership of Andrey the Brave and Dmitry Donskoy moved on him, suggests that Russians began to be afraid of the Horde.
        1. Nasrat
          Nasrat 21 September 2021 10: 57
          +1
          Quote: Wend
          says that Russians began to be afraid of the Horde.

          They may have become afraid, however, Dmitry paid Tokhtamysh a tribute for the 2 years that passed since the defeat of Mamai, for which Tokhtamysh secured the great reign to the clan of Moscow princes, and the Tver principality gained independence from the Vladimir reign, returning Kashin to its structure - i.e. Tokhtamysh ruled as he saw fit. and there was no smell of Tokhtamysh's flight here ...
          And more about the remaining dependence of Russia ... Tokhtamysh in 1388 opposed his former patron Tamerlane. According to the Persian historian Sheref ad-Din Yezdi, in that campaign, the Golden Horde army consisted of Russians ...

          Ultimately, Russia was "saved" from the Horde by Tamerlane (as the destroyer of the horde) and the skillful diplomacy of the Russian princes ..
          1. Vend
            Vend 21 September 2021 18: 23
            +1
            Quote: Nasr
            Quote: Wend
            says that Russians began to be afraid of the Horde.

            They may have become afraid, however, Dmitry paid Tokhtamysh a tribute for the 2 years that passed since the defeat of Mamai, for which Tokhtamysh secured the great reign to the clan of Moscow princes, and the Tver principality gained independence from the Vladimir reign, returning Kashin to its structure - i.e. Tokhtamysh ruled as he saw fit. and there was no smell of Tokhtamysh's flight here ...
            And more about the remaining dependence of Russia ... Tokhtamysh in 1388 opposed his former patron Tamerlane. According to the Persian historian Sheref ad-Din Yezdi, in that campaign, the Golden Horde army consisted of Russians ...

            Ultimately, Russia was "saved" from the Horde by Tamerlane (as the destroyer of the horde) and the skillful diplomacy of the Russian princes ..

            After the capture of Moscow, Tokhtamysh disbanded his detachments over the Moscow possessions: to Zvenigorod, Volok, Mozhaisk, Yuryev, Dmitrov and Pereyaslavl. But they managed to take only Pereyaslavl. The detachment that approached Volok was defeated by Vladimir Andreevich Serpukhovsky, who was there. After that, Tokhtamysh left Moscow and set off on his way, taking Kolomna along the way. The army of Dmitry Donskoy moved from Kostroma. After that, Tokhtamysh left Moscow and set off on his way, taking Kolomna along the way. Having crossed the Oka, he ravaged the Ryazan land and left Russia. Is this not an escape? Tokhtamysh did not defeat Dmitry in an open battle, did not dictate conditions to him from the captured Moscow, on the contrary, he was forced to quickly leave it. In addition to the capital, the Tatars took only Serpukhov, Pereyaslavl and Kolomna.
            And in 1395, the invincible commander Tamerlane, who defeated Tokhtamysh, set out on a campaign against Russia. The history of Tamerlane's campaign against Russia is very short. He invaded the Ryazan principality, ravaged the city of Yelets. And after standing near Yelets for two weeks, he unexpectedly returned to his capital - Samarkand. What other questions can there be?
            And the payment of tribute by Dmitry Donskoy, so the victory over Mamai was given to Russia with a lot of blood + until the complete unity of the princes and Russia was still very far away. Before the great victory on the Ugra, there was still much to be done, and then the remnants of the Horde bothered Russia for a long time with raids.
    2. A. h. 52
      A. h. 52 21 September 2021 09: 37
      +2
      The Horde would not go anywhere. In those years she was far from the same strength as under Batu
    3. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 21 September 2021 09: 48
      +1
      I highly recommend viewing it.
      1. ultra
        ultra 21 September 2021 10: 24
        +4
        We have been watching Klim Alexandrovich for a long time.
    4. knn54
      knn54 21 September 2021 10: 13
      +1
      -The soldiers who died in the battle were collected and buried in mass graves for a WEEK after the battle.
      Until now, they have not found a place of battle where there would be so many (do not forget about the dead Tatars, Genoese) mass graves.
      1. Swed
        Swed 21 September 2021 11: 48
        +4
        Actually, the place was found back in 2014. In 2019, additional excavations were carried out and confirmed the statements of Oleg Dvurechensky. Well, about 100000 thousand soldiers .... This figure is announced in schools, but has nothing to do with reality. Exactly the same as the number of boyars who died, allegedly taking part in this battle.
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 21 September 2021 20: 02
          0
          Where are the mass graves of the fallen in the indicated place? Or, as in some program, one clown historian said that the absence of those was simply explained: numerous relatives followed the military columns on carts, and after the battle they looked for their dead and took them home ... Dashing, right? And such figures then write history textbooks for us!
    5. Rafal Vahitov
      Rafal Vahitov 21 September 2021 18: 35
      -6
      so now're coming out-Bandera are saving old Europe from the Russian-Buryat tank hordes.
      Further is it to Europe? it is a pity that Mamai did not win, and the Russians defeated Mamai on their own head, otherwise now the Russians would have been at least 500 million. It was all the Europeans who were saved by the Russians who thanked you for your salvation. And all these centuries, the Europeans thin out the Russians so as not to proliferate.
  2. Docx2032
    Docx2032 21 September 2021 09: 11
    +2
    I remembered Vozovikov's novel "The Kulikovo Field" - a magnificent syllable:

    "Serpukhovskoy looked at the voivode, he grinned harshly, raised his eyes to the sky. In the dull blue from a great height, as if aiming at the khan's tent on Krasniy Kholm, a pair of gyrfalcons dived gently.
    “Here is a sign of heaven for us, prince,” Bobrok said casually. - Yes, and the wind, hey, turned.
    The entire regiment was looking into the sky, watching the falcon flight, and the wind, as often happens on the edge, twisted weakly and also pushed the soldiers in the back. For a moment or two, Serpukhovskoy looked into the calm blue of the governor's eyes, already realizing that it was impossible to choose the best moment to strike.
    - Take the right wing of the regiment and drive them straight to Nepryadva. Drive, do not hesitate - turn after me. I'll hit those that fit the host. If the hitch comes out of me, you will support me.
    Vladimir grabbed Bobrok from the saddle and kissed his stiff mustache, the gilded prince's helmets clinked ironically. The regiment, as if lifted into the air by the crimson wings of its banners, still silent, swept a quarry from behind the edge of Zelena Dubrava and saw the careless backs of triumphant enemies throughout the field from Smolka to Nepryadva. "
  3. Roma 1977
    Roma 1977 21 September 2021 09: 13
    +13
    The 100-thousandth squad is from the realm of fantasy. Thousand 20 if it was - already good. Tea, not the Napoleonic wars. The mobilization potential of Rus was very small in the Middle Ages. And there were probably the same number of Tatars. But for those years, such a battle looked like a very big battle.
    1. den3080
      den3080 21 September 2021 09: 33
      +3
      Quote: Roma-1977
      The 100-thousandth squad is from the realm of fantasy. Thousand 20 if it was - already good. Tea, not the Napoleonic wars. The mobilization potential of Rus was very small in the Middle Ages. And there were probably the same number of Tatars. But for those years, such a battle looked like a very big battle.

      + To you.
      Since childhood, I have been fond of history, all sorts of battles. And gradually it became clear to me that the stories about the innumerable hordes of 100-200-300-400 thousand soldiers in medieval or earlier battles are simple, shameless embellishment or lies (in other words).
      Tens of thousands, and even then not always, are much closer to reality.
      As for Mamai, he was not even a Chingizid, an ordinary usurper.
      How can he collect 150 thousand troops? There was not enough authority.
      And Chingizid Tokhtamysh rather quickly showed Mamai who was the boss.

      Batu's army numbered about 80 thousand soldiers during the invasion of Russia and the establishment of the "Mongol-Tatar yoke" over Russia.
      And then they went on different roads. And they acted in "corps" - tumens.
      Otherwise, not to feed. And diseases cannot be avoided.
      And the subsequent European campaign of Batu - the whole army was about 40 thousand. And it acted on a "front" of several hundred and even up to a thousand kilometers.
      Also autonomous "buildings".
      1. ultra
        ultra 21 September 2021 10: 26
        0
        Quote: den3080
        Batu's army numbered about 80 thousand soldiers during the invasion of Russia

        4 tumens came, about 40 thousand A huge army at that time.
        1. den3080
          den3080 21 September 2021 10: 54
          0
          Quote: ultra
          Quote: den3080
          Batu's army numbered about 80 thousand soldiers during the invasion of Russia

          4 tumens came, about 40 thousand A huge army at that time.

          Well, after all, there were more, probably, there were 8-10 Tumen commanders.
          In the European campaign, there were only four such commanders, including Batu.

          And about the Battle of Kulikovo, I can tell my opinion.:
          1. For Russia, this was undoubtedly a significant, great event. The army of the enslavers was utterly defeated in an open and very large battle.
          2. Very quickly Tokhtamysh demonstrated to both participants in this battle, and Mamai and Dmitry Donskoy, who is the boss.
          In other words: the forester came and dispersed everyone.
          But he dispersed thanks to the support of Timur (Tamerlane), who actually put Tokhtamysh on the throne in the Golden Horde, as if restoring justice (Chingizid ... then this)
          3. Russian princes and after the Kulikovo battle went to reign in the Golden Horde for paizi.

          You can write a lot more. Everything was very difficult there. But mostly something like that.
    2. venik
      venik 21 September 2021 14: 02
      +1
      Quote: Roma-1977
      The 100-thousandth squad is from the realm of fantasy. Thousand 20 if it was - already good. Tea, not the Napoleonic wars. The mobilization potential of Rus was very small in the Middle Ages. And there were probably the same number of Tatars. But for those years, such a battle looked like a very big battle.

      =======
      Back in the days of the Soviet Union, I happened to read a series of articles on the Battle of Kulikovo in one of the youth magazines. In one of the articles, a military historian, a former officer of the engineering troops, criticized the then-established version of the confrontation between 100 Russian troops and the Horde army, which consisted of 000 Tatars (including the Genoese infantry). He made estimates based on the "logistic" and mobilization capabilities of that time and came to the conclusion that the most likely number of the opposing troops is much more modest: ~ 300 Russian troops and approx. 000 Tatar (incl.Genoese) ......
  4. tihonmarine
    tihonmarine 21 September 2021 09: 15
    -1
    However, one should not forget what price the Russian army paid for such an important victory.

    Russia has always waged wars with strong opponents who wanted to destroy the Russian people, and for their independence, for their land, they had to pay for many centuries with great Russian blood.
  5. Boris55
    Boris55 21 September 2021 09: 17
    -1
    There was a war between two concepts: Western, bearing cross and Russian, Vedic.

    1. Magog_
      Magog_ 21 September 2021 14: 56
      +1
      Something is not visible know-it-all historians who would argue with Putin. I remember that I watched this press conference live and was quite impressed by this revelation of the President. True, in the evening replay this episode was so skillfully cut by the editors that it was as if Putin did not even mention the Battle of Kulikovo ... Dastardly forgery is also a habitual tool of historians ... This is how the official "history" always acts: either it ignores the facts, or it goes down to complete absurdity! The Battle of Kulikovo is an example of almost the first civil war in the world, where ideological contradictions between supporters of two views on Christianity were resolved in the greatest battle. Therefore, "Russian regiments" and the so-called "Russian regiments" took part on both sides. "Tatar cavalry".
  6. teptyar
    teptyar 21 September 2021 09: 22
    -3
    and on both sides there were Russians, I mean the army of Mamai. And if they won, then the format of the holiday would now look a little different?)))) Like the progressive army of Oleg Ivanovich Ryazansky with his Tatar ally Khan Mamai defeated the damned usurper Mitka!
    1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
      Sidor Amenpodestovich 21 September 2021 09: 27
      +1
      The history is written by the winners.
    2. ultra
      ultra 21 September 2021 10: 29
      0
      Quote: Teptyar
      Like the progressive army of Oleg Ivanovich Ryazansky with his Tatar ally Khan Mamai defeated the accursed usurper Mitka!

      The Ryazan people, like the Lithuanians, were allies of the Tatars, but in fact they did not take part in the battle.
      1. teptyar
        teptyar 21 September 2021 10: 54
        -2
        whether they participated or not is not known at all! The very fact of the battle is a big question! But gentlemen, imperialists, you cannot pierce the frontal bone! Believe and believe only in what you want!
        1. Pereira
          Pereira 21 September 2021 16: 04
          -2
          Is it unpleasant to know that you are a loser?
          By the way. The Russian Empire was created after the capture of Kazan. So the Tatars are also legally an imperial people, like all residents as of 1721.
          But if you want to feel like a Hottentot in a loincloth, who is your doctor?
          The main thing is not to ask for money for the fact that your ancestors were taken out of Africa.
          1. teptyar
            teptyar 22 September 2021 07: 50
            0
            not nice. But you'd better remember not about the loincloth, but about how Professor Preobrazhensky explained - We are not yet confidently buttoning our pants!
            1. Pereira
              Pereira 23 September 2021 08: 32
              +1
              And then there are people who don't wear panties. And how to go to the future with such?
    3. den3080
      den3080 21 September 2021 13: 07
      0
      Quote: Teptyar
      and on both sides there were Russians, I mean the army of Mamai. And if they won, then the format of the holiday would now look a little different?)))) Like the progressive army of Oleg Ivanovich Ryazansky with his Tatar ally Khan Mamai defeated the damned usurper Mitka!

      And this is also known, yes. The Ryazan squad fought on the side of Mamai. How many were there? Well, a few hundred apparently.
      But the Lithuanian Jagailo was in a hurry to hurry to Mamai, but did not dare (apparently) to get involved.
      In general, the oil painting was interesting then.
      Timur (Tamerlane) was then the strongest warrior in the space left from the Mongol Empire, but nevertheless recognized himself as a vassal of the Great Empire in the East, where the Chinese had taken the upper hand by that time and actually took over the throne of the Great Khan.
      Russia was a "small politician" for all these guys and became the sole business of the Golden Horde, as it was somewhat aloof ... in the north.
      And they fought mainly to control the trade routes between the East ("India", "China") and the West. For this reason, the Ottoman Sultan Bayazid suffered greatly, who was utterly defeated by Timur, who, as a result, received the possibility of unhindered and practically duty-free trade with Europe (the Genoese, for example) through the then Constantinople and other, less important ports.
      This was then the "geopolitical situation" smile
      It is always interesting to try to perceive the picture as fully as possible, in 4 dimensions, so to speak. And when assembled, these puzzles sometimes look completely different than a separate event.
      1. teptyar
        teptyar 21 September 2021 13: 41
        +1
        great comment! Plus +
    4. Pereira
      Pereira 21 September 2021 15: 51
      0
      What has Oleg got to do with it? And the Kazan Tatars have nothing to do with it. Don't worry so much, Tagir.
  7. Desperado
    Desperado 21 September 2021 09: 27
    +5
    Quote: Maz
    I would add that after the battle Dmitry Donskoy freed all Russian people from taxes for twenty years, such terrible losses for Russia, in fact, saved Europe, Mamai, if he won, would go further

    Link to the source, pzhl ...
  8. Seal
    Seal 21 September 2021 09: 57
    +5
    Recall that in the grandiose battle with the Mongol-Tatars, which took place on September 21 (8th according to the old style), 1380
    Actually, if we are to be correct, then September 8, according to the old style, as applied to the 14th century, is not September 21, but September 16.
    Recall that more than 100 thousand Russian soldiers, led by the Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy, took part in the grandiose battle with the Mongol-Tatars.
    Why not a million? Do you have a staffing table for the troops of "Grand Duke Dmitry" ??
    The beginning of the battle was marked by a full-time battle between the Russian and Mongolian soldiers. Both died. Then the Tatar cavalry rushed into battle
    Interestingly, the author has written. There was a full-time battle between the Russian and Mongolian warrior, and then rushed into battle Tatar cavalry.
    And why did the author decide that a certain "Chelubey" was (if he was at all) a Mongol? Well, a Turk or a Tatar with that name is still understandable, but Mongol ???? It's like "Don Cossack Lev Izrailevich Zak". hi
    Learning about the plans of the Mongol Khan,
    Well, yes, Stirlitz, sent by Prince Dmitry, stole Mamai's offensive plan to Russia.
    Grand Duke Dmitry Donskoy gathered a 100-thousandth squad and also went on a campaign to meet the enemy beyond the Don, not allowing them to join up with the Allied troops.
    Well, given that it is traditionally believed that the main part of the army of Prince Dmitry was on foot, it looks like some kind of nonsense when a predominantly foot army goes beyond 3-9 lands to catch a predominantly cavalry army, leaving their own lands essentially defenseless.
    Finally, it is worth adding that at the time of the flight of the Mongol-Tatars, Yagail's army was already 40 km from the battlefield. However, having learned about the defeat of Mamai, the Lithuanian prince hastily set off on his way.

    I heard about this version many times. But no one could ever answer, and what actually prevented Mamai from advancing on the army of Muscovites, but to retreat a little and unite with the Lithuanians? And to fight Dmitry with an army reinforced by the Lithuanians not on September 8, but, for example, on September 10-11?
    Or another moment. And what prevented Mamai from starting to lure our army into the steppe? After all, Mamai could calmly retreat even to Perekop. Prince Dmitry should have followed him. Since if Dmitry had turned and began to return to Moscow, then Mamai would have turned his troops and again would have begun to threaten Dmitry's troops.
    1. teptyar
      teptyar 21 September 2021 10: 56
      +1
      Thanks! indeed there are a lot of questions, there are fewer answers))
    2. AdmiralHood
      AdmiralHood 22 September 2021 00: 06
      -1
      >> Well, given that it is traditionally believed that the main part of the army of Prince Dmitry was on foot

      There were no pedestrians at all.

      >> step back a bit and connect with the Lithuanians?

      It is possible in the steppe. And there were dense forests impassable for the cavalry. There were minimal roads suitable for movement.
  9. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 21 September 2021 10: 08
    +2
    Are your poems good, tell yourself? - Monstrous! - suddenly boldly and frankly said Ivan.
    - Do not write anymore! - asked the visitor pleadingly.
    - I promise and I swear! - Ivan said solemnly. (c)
    The same can be said about the article, a blooper on a blooper.
  10. rocket757
    rocket757 21 September 2021 10: 22
    0
    By the end of the XIV century, the Mongol yoke was going through hard times. The Golden Horde, whose khan was the senior emir Mamai, was already beginning to disintegrate. At the same time, opposite processes were taking place in Russia. Under the leadership of the Moscow principality, the unification of the Russian lands took place, which naturally could not but alarm the Mongol ruler.
    So everything is natural ... all have fought / disintegrated, wait for the northern fur-bearing animal.
    Gathered in a "mighty bunch", you can build your common life in a high chance of success!
    As always ... the exceptions only prove the rule.
  11. FrankyStein
    FrankyStein 21 September 2021 10: 28
    +3
    The Battle of Kulikovo did not predetermine anything, its significance is exaggerated. She only gave understanding and hope that the Mongols can be defeated, which they had not even thought about before. And the really turning point was the Battle of Molodi.
  12. ultra
    ultra 21 September 2021 10: 32
    +2
    Quote: Seal
    Mamayu not to step on the army of Muscovites

    It was not an army of "Muscovites", it was a united army of Russian principalities.
  13. ultra
    ultra 21 September 2021 10: 33
    +1
    Quote: Seal
    After all, Mamai could calmly retreat even before Perekop. Prince Dmitry should have followed him.

    Why did he have to follow him?
    1. Seal
      Seal 21 September 2021 12: 24
      0
      Quote: ultra
      Why did he have to follow him?
      This is the logic of the version that historians foist on us. If historians forced Prince Dmitry not to occupy the defense lines on the Oka crossings, as our governors usually did in the next 400 years, but forced him to move far into the steppe, attributing to him the fix idea "to find in the steppe and break up" Mamai's cavalry army, then it is logical suggest that historians could drive "Prince Dmitry's army" not only to this field in the present Tula region, but also to any field in the present Oryol, Kursk, Kharkov, Voronezh or Rostov regions.
  14. Antokha
    Antokha 21 September 2021 12: 37
    -4
    21st century, and the meaning of big wars has not changed. It was not just a yoke, it was a religious confrontation, although the Tatars did not destroy our faith. Alexander Nevsky made the right choice, giving them money, not his soul. Therefore, our civilization is still alive, and the peoples of the yoke have not developed. But here is the 21st century, and the opposition is the same: Islam versus Christianity. It is a pity for us, modern people who do not understand the meaning and value of their faith, despite the fact that the enemy understands his meaning and puts it in the first place.
    1. Magog_
      Magog_ 21 September 2021 15: 42
      -2
      Islam, and Islam as an ideological support - a branch of Christianity in the late 16th - early 17th centuries (AD). In particular, a clear trace of Christianity in Islam is symbolism: "a crescent moon with a star", which is the shortest symbolic record of the earthly life of Christ (read from right to left). "Star" - a supernova explosion (Star of Bethlehem), "crescent" - an image of a solar eclipse, which was observed shortly after the execution / crucifixion of the Savior in the place where the Jews committed this crime ...
      1. Pereira
        Pereira 21 September 2021 15: 57
        +1
        The Jews will come and blame everything on the Romans.
        1. Magog_
          Magog_ 21 September 2021 16: 16
          +1
          Constantinople of the 12th century is the Second Rome, so there is nothing surprising in the participation of the "Romans" in the massacre of Christ. "Right now" they will put me to shame and advise me to re-read history books (about the 12th century) when Christ was born!
          1. Pereira
            Pereira 21 September 2021 16: 34
            0
            I'm just about to talk about it. The Romans are to blame for everything.
  15. Rafal Vahitov
    Rafal Vahitov 21 September 2021 18: 42
    -3
    Temnik Mamai wandered in the summer in his northern lands of the Wild Field. In the fall, Mamai decided to migrate to the south, and at this time the Prince of Moscow Dmitry insidiously and unexpectedly attacked the headquarters of the temnik Mamai.

    In our time, the traitorous writer Rezun (Viktor Suvorov), on this principle, accuses Stalin of preparing an attack on Germany and only Hitler was a couple of weeks ahead of the USSR.

    NATO also accuses the Russian Federation of aggressiveness and of preparing an invasion of Ukraine and conducting exercises on its territory.

    On the river Ugre, Khan Akhmat approached the borders of Russia and Russian troops did not allow him to cross the border.

    At all times, the AGGRESSOR is the one who crossed the border, and it is his right to walk along the borders, as now the Russian troops near the borders of Ukraine and NATO are arranging exercises and NATO is also within their borders.

    THESE ARE DOUBLE STANDARDS FOR WRITING HISTORY by Russian historians
  16. Motorist
    Motorist 21 September 2021 21: 26
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    The ambush regiment turned the tide of the battle

    BALLAD ABOUT THE BOLYBROKE


    When the batyr collapsed, he was killed,
    and the hero fell, struck down,
    when the pain of all past grievances
    slashed the heart with a knife
    and went to Mamai's army,
    and the Horde fell upon the army,
    so inhabited that there is nothing to yell -
    just a groan and blood from the mouth,
    when it became unbearable to die,
    so the enemy pressed the squad,
    how Bobrok wanted to help her,
    but did not move a step.
    "Stop!" - Bobrok whispered to himself,
    and Bobrok's face turned white,
    but stayed where he got up in the morning,
    where Prince Dmitry ordered to get up.

    When the front regiment was crushed
    and the right edge backed away,
    when, biting his teeth like a wolf,
    rejoiced on the hill Mamai,
    when the thick dust disappeared
    Prince of the Russian banner, Bobrok
    moaned through force: "Stop!
    Wait, Volynets is not yet time ...
    Like a stone pillar in the steppe
    stop and do not waste your tears for the time being! ..
    Wait, Bobrok and endure, endure,
    how the Motherland tolerated!
    How your grandfather endured on a rack
    just because he was proud and Russian!
    How I endured one hundred and forty years
    cursed yoke of Russia! .. "

    So an hour passed in patience.
    And one more hour ... And when
    the roar of victory shook the hills:
    the Horde split the squad,
    like a wound, the host dispersed
    under the blows of saber sims -
    Vladimir could not restrain himself - the prince
    and exclaimed "Why are we standing ?!
    Where is the use of your expectation ?!
    The army is defeated, the battle is lost! .. "

    Bobrok only gritted his teeth
    and whispered to the light prince: "Stop!
    You are not death - you are waiting for Victory,
    here you are, where you are in the morning!
    For the time being, we are patient with you!
    It's not time yet, prince! It's not time! ..
    Wait, as has been the custom since ancient times
    in Russia to stand - to the end! .. "

    And when not from blood - from tears
    the soldier's chain mail has rusted,
    when the ambush regiment muttered,
    ready to go for help:
    finished off, cut and trampled
    Nepryadva Mamai brothers -
    the prince of Volyn did not speak,
    what and how long to wait for an ambush, -
    Bobrok silently took up the sword
    and his eyes flashed: "Stop!"

    And they stood as long as rust
    not ate iron to its fullest ...
    And when, howling and rusting,
    the cavalry rushed into the battle
    and hit the Russians in the side
    and Dmitry, knocked down,
    only one wheeze from the insides -
    it was then that the term came out:
    Bobrok sighed deeply,
    the sword from the scabbard tore Bobrok
    and whispered almost audibly: "It's time! .."

    V. Maximov
    We are not born to grudge
  17. AdmiralHood
    AdmiralHood 21 September 2021 23: 57
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    >> more than 100 thousand Russian soldiers took part

    The maximum that the Russian principalities could put up was 10 thousand. Most likely it was even less - 7 thousand.

    >> The beginning of the battle was marked by a full-time battle between Russian and Mongolian soldiers.

    This is the invention of the chroniclers. They did not have time to stupidly stand against each other and measure themselves with pipis. The Tatars crossed the ford, and the Russians were already in battle formation. And it started right away.

    >> However, the ambush regiment turned the tide of the battle

    Most likely, there was no ambush regiment. There was nowhere to hide. There was a clearing of 3x1 km, and all around there were forests, impassable for the cavalry, with gullies and ravines.
  18. lvov_aleksey
    lvov_aleksey 22 September 2021 01: 34
    +1
    I don’t believe any of you, you know why - you were not there in the 14th century. AD
    all your bullshit sources !!!!!!!!
  19. megavolt823
    megavolt823 22 September 2021 11: 40
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    The mention of the Russians as a people is not earlier than Ivan the Terrible, but in general under the Romanovs. Until the 15th century, there were no Russians. There was Russia. Russia is a union of different tribes. Mentioned 12 Slavic, Ugric, Khazar and others and all. Kursk land started from 9 tribes, where 7 were the main ones. Horde is an association of Turkic, Tungus-Manchu peoples. Asian appearance. Who took control of the whole of Eurasia. Even large associations of large countries could not fight the Horde. They bent down everything and everyone (where the horse does it). Russia was not that numerous. The horde was divided into kaganates or kagans (republics). There was also a division into uluses (cities) in a sense. But numbers were taken into account, not territory. They were nomadic. Russia was at war with the kaganate. But not with the HORDE. Many significant personalities in Russia appeared after serving in the Horde. The Horde has had a different history. And the great story and history of the enmity within the Horde, decline, decay and attempts to rebuild. Much has not been correctly understood from history. Much is exaggerated, but somewhere is a lie.
  20. wow
    wow 23 September 2021 08: 40
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    Yagailo is Mamai's faithful "ally", just like about the current NAT!