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Maintenance costs will exceed the purchase price: the Czech Republic criticizes the acquisition of Israeli air defense systems SPYDER

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In the Czech Republic last weekend, a wave of criticism arose after the announcement of the terms of the purchase of the Israeli short and medium-range anti-aircraft missile system SPYDER. The operating costs were found to be significantly higher than the purchase price of the system, despite the expected relatively short lifespan.


As reported in the country's parliament, the key terms of the upcoming agreement have already been agreed. SAM SPYDER is purchased as follows: 4 fire control devices; 4 mobile three-coordinate radars (MADR 2084 MMR-GBAD); 16 launchers; 4 transport and loading machines; short and medium-range anti-aircraft missiles; personnel training services. The cost of the contract will amount to 13,7 billion kroons ($ 0,63 billion), which is significantly higher than the cost level determined when the tender was announced in 2016. Of this amount, 38% should go to Czech companies.

At the same time, in accordance with the instructions of the Supreme Control Chamber of January this year, the Ministry of Defense is obliged to determine in advance the amount of maintenance costs for the purchased military equipment in order to ensure its operability throughout the entire life cycle. In this regard, the corresponding figures were announced, which, as indicated in the CZDefence publication, "caused a stir in the country."

With a service life of 20 years, it is planned to spend more than one billion kroons annually on maintenance and repairs [SAM SPYDER]. The amount for the entire period [of the operation of the complex] will amount to 23,5 billion kroons ($ 1,08 billion). This price is appropriate and the purchased products meet the needs of the military

- reported in the Ministry of Defense, stressing that the calculation of costs takes into account the entire list of costs, including wages, the purchase of fuel and other items.

In the Czech press, such costs are not considered suitable, noting that the cost of maintenance will eventually exceed the cost of purchasing the complexes. The Ministry of Defense of the Czech Republic has not yet paid attention to this criticism.

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  1. tralflot1832
    tralflot1832 20 September 2021 13: 54
    +4
    The times of spears, sling and bows seem to have passed, the Czechs have not guessed about it?
    1. Maz
      Maz 20 September 2021 13: 59
      +3
      Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus
      1. NDR-791
        NDR-791 20 September 2021 14: 04
        +8
        Quote: Maz
        Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

        Yes, in light of such expenses, wishlist kaklov for the "iron dome" can only be welcomed. They will defeat themselves wassat
        1. Professor
          Professor 20 September 2021 14: 24
          -1
          Quote: NDR-791
          Quote: Maz
          Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

          Yes, in light of such expenses, wishlist kaklov for the "iron dome" can only be welcomed. They will defeat themselves wassat

          You wanted to joke so much? Ha, ha, ha. How funny. wassat Nevertheless, the Czechs acquired LCD radars and a control system. fellow
      2. Professor
        Professor 20 September 2021 14: 15
        -3
        Quote: Maz
        Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

        My condolences, MAZ. All of your fugitives got caught from the sewers. The last two in Jenin. Remarkably, the Arabs did not put up any resistance and, having raised their hands, peacefully surrendered. Music played not long on your street.

        PS
        The spider, in contrast to the unbroken S-300 aircraft, has a positive combat experience. Looks like the Czechs know about it. wink
        1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
          Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 September 2021 14: 20
          +11
          Quote: Professor
          Looks like the Czechs know about it.

          And the Czechs can freely buy the S-300? Does it only depend on their desire?
          1. Professor
            Professor 20 September 2021 14: 22
            .
            Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
            Quote: Professor
            Looks like the Czechs know about it.

            And the Czechs can freely buy the S-300? Does it only depend on their desire?

            Of course. Greece bought.
            However, the track record of the S-300 and Spyder convinced the Czechs to purchase ...
            1. Sidor Amenpodestovich
              Sidor Amenpodestovich 20 September 2021 14: 29
              +11
              Quote: Professor
              However, the track record of the S-300 and Spyder convinced the Czechs to purchase ...

              That is, you are quite seriously sure that the Czechs would be allowed to buy the S-300? If so, then I have no more questions.
              1. Professor
                Professor 20 September 2021 14: 31
                .
                Quote: Sydor Amenpospestovich
                Quote: Professor
                However, the track record of the S-300 and Spyder convinced the Czechs to purchase ...

                That is, you are quite seriously sure that the Czechs would be allowed to buy the S-300? If so, then I have no more questions.

                v
              2. isv000
                isv000 20 September 2021 14: 52
                +8
                Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                Oh, are you seriously sure that the Czechs would be allowed to buy the S-300? If so, then I have no more questions.

                The Turks did not ask, they bought the S-400 at once, and here the Czechs - they are rather weak for independent decisions ...
                1. Professor
                  Professor 20 September 2021 15: 00
                  .
                  Quote: isv000
                  Quote: Sidor Amenpodestovich
                  Oh, are you seriously sure that the Czechs would be allowed to buy the S-300? If so, then I have no more questions.

                  The Turks did not ask, they bought the S-400 at once, and here the Czechs - they are rather weak for independent decisions ...

                  Come on? The Turks were told that they could not play with the S-400 and build the F-35. The Greeks bought the S-300 and no sanctions. fellow
                  1. isv000
                    isv000 20 September 2021 15: 03
                    +10
                    Quote: Professor
                    The Greeks bought the S-300 and no sanctions.

                    When the Greeks bought the S-300, the F-35 didn't even smell ...
                    1. Professor
                      Professor 20 September 2021 15: 50
                      -4
                      Quote: isv000
                      Quote: Professor
                      The Greeks bought the S-300 and no sanctions.

                      When the Greeks bought the S-300, the F-35 didn't even smell ...

                      The Czechs do not participate in the creation of the F-35 like the Turks. Where will the Czechs be expelled from?
                  2. Foxmara
                    Foxmara 20 September 2021 22: 47
                    +1
                    here rather from the other side flew in. Turkey's S-400s appeared after the Greeks surrendered the secrets of the S-300 to Israel. Now Greece has a personal headache. It didn't work out to eat the fish and .. what can I say, they managed to set up their partners, right? the main thing is your interest. A good answer would be to sell the S-400 to Iran. I think we would have heard a lot of interesting things.
            2. Walking towards the light
              Walking towards the light 20 September 2021 14: 54
              +3
              Why do the Czech Republic need air defense? Do they want to fight with someone? Like an armada of bombers will fly into the Czech Republic and "Spiders" will defend it day and night? Probably so. If there is an Alien invasion)). Aliens.
            3. Foxmara
              Foxmara 20 September 2021 22: 41
              +1
              that is, would it suit you if the S-300 would shoot down Israeli planes? the fact that they are not even fired at now does not prove the effectiveness of Israeli planes and flyers, but only the fact that they are effectively covered by civilian sides and firing from foreign airspace. the fact that your flyers value their carcass more dearly than other people's civilian planes with a peace man. in fact, how, in this case, are they different from the Arab terrorists? yes, most likely a set of more expensive equipment. incl. Israel's violation of any international laws should not be presented as an advantage in military equipment. this is cleverness, nothing more. I understand that otherwise Israel is likely to suffer heavy losses and may not even survive, but this does not do him credit in any case. hi
              1. And Us Rat
                And Us Rat 21 September 2021 23: 47
                +2
                Quote: Foxmara
                any international laws

                Does not exist. The law is an object of sovereignty, and is established by the sovereign on its territory.
                Only agreements are international.

                Py.Sy. I will not comment on the rest, you have only clichés and double standards.
                1. Foxmara
                  Foxmara 4 October 2021 17: 10
                  0
                  Cap, you could not answer, the effect would be the same. Thank you for clarifying the legal nuance, well, who else would suggest?
                  Representatives of one "chosen" people are best able to deny the obvious.
                  If your super duper plane was damaged by enemy air defense - tell them that it was the birds that broke it - and that's fine. To tell everyone that you do not have nuclear weapons, but in which case you promise to use them exactly.
                  Is it double standards to launch an attack using civilian aircraft routes and attack from foreign airspace? No, of course, I just don't mind a stranger. They are not the "chosen ones." But to accuse others of being so aggressive, while seizing territories from them, is already like double standards.
                  Okay, Syria did not sign a peace treaty, but we do not have a war with you, nevertheless, your flyers substituted our plane for air defense. I will not give an assessment - everything is clear here.
                  1. And Us Rat
                    And Us Rat 5 October 2021 23: 03
                    -1
                    Quote: Foxmara
                    Representatives of one "chosen" people are best able to deny the obvious.

                    Oh, I see you put into use Nazi stereotypes and clichés?
                    Let's talk more about the "protocols" and matzah on the blood of babies, for the sake of completeness, so to speak. fellow
                    You'd better change the footcloths for the bear, and give him vodka from the samovar, otherwise he won't play the balalaika. fool

                    Quote: Foxmara
                    your flyers framed our plane for air defense

                    When the Syrian air defenses fired missiles that hit the Il-20, Israeli Air Force planes were already landing in Israeli airspace. In addition, during the Israeli Air Force strikes on targets in Latakia, the Russian Il-20 was outside the operation zone. and was purposefully directed by the Khmeimim control center to the firing zone and flew there for more than 150 km.
                    Apparently, they wanted to copy the signatures of Israeli radars, but they miscalculated ineptly, and they were late in the zone of action, and they drove the board under fire. The generals from Khmeimim are to blame for the tragedy, who thoughtlessly tried to curry favor with spitting on the lives of their subordinates.
                    So, from the repetition of your slander, it will not become true.
                    Although, judging by your general position, I am not surprised by whose method you are narrating.
                    “If you tell a lie big enough and repeat it, people will eventually believe in it.” - Joseph Goebbels.

                    I won't even answer the rest of the nonsense.
          2. mvg
            mvg 21 September 2021 07: 40
            -1
            It only depends on their desire

            Why not? Turkey, a NATO member bought, Greece, a NATO member bought, KSA, a US ally is going. The Bulgarians have, the Cypriots have ... what is the problem? Yes, MO will happily clap its hands if it sniffs this "wonderful" complex somewhere else.
            It's like selling Kokorin to Fiorentina. The same luck, if not more.
        2. Flooding
          Flooding 20 September 2021 14: 28
          +6
          Quote: Professor
          The spider, in contrast to the unbroken S-300 aircraft, has a positive combat experience.

          Quote: Professor
          However, the track record of the S-300 and Spyder convinced the Czechs to acquire

          besides Georgia 2008, the Israeli air defense system has distinguished itself somewhere else?
          if not, then loudly declaring your track record is not serious.
          1. Professor
            Professor 20 September 2021 14: 29
            -6
            Quote: Flood
            Quote: Professor
            The spider, in contrast to the unbroken S-300 aircraft, has a positive combat experience.

            besides Georgia 2008, the Israeli air defense system has distinguished itself somewhere else?

            It seems not. The S-300, however, has distinguished itself and is distinguished regularly in Syria.
            1. NDR-791
              NDR-791 20 September 2021 14: 33
              +6
              Quote: Professor
              The S-300, however, has distinguished itself and is distinguished regularly, in Syria.

              This is such a banter, professor ??? In fact, you should be glad that the S-300 has not worked for you in Syria yet. wassat
              1. Professor
                Professor 20 September 2021 14: 44
                -8
                Quote: NDR-791
                Quote: Professor
                The S-300, however, has distinguished itself and is distinguished regularly, in Syria.

                This is such a banter, professor ??? In fact, you should be glad that the S-300 has not worked for you in Syria yet. wassat

                Of course it didn't work. He is blind. They are bombing under his nose, but he still does not work. Spider was working.

                Quote: Flood
                then it would be more logical for the Czechs to buy the S-125.
                with a track record of this complex.
                talking about the capabilities and price of the issue or combat use?

                If the S-125 was a modern complex, it would be logical.

                Quote: Flood
                as if the Georgians, if they were armed with the S-300 in 2008, could not have done the same?

                The Syrians have S-300s, the Armenians also had them in Karabakh. The choice of the Czechs is obvious.

                Quote: tralflot1832
                But the Czechs also know that the complex was captured by our troops intact and with ammunition.

                And?
                By the way, there are only 4 missiles (2 Python and 3 Derby) and if 3 were used up then at least one type of missiles you did not get.
                1. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 20 September 2021 15: 32
                  +2
                  https://topwar.ru/140885-glava-mo-izrailya-my-ne-vozrazhaem-protiv-postavok-s-300-v-siriyu-no.html
                  Commenting on the possible deliveries of the C-300 Russian-to-German air defense system to Syria, Lieberman said that in principle Israel does not oppose such deliveries, but he immediately added that the C-300 should not be used against the planes of the Israeli Air Force.

                  Less aplomb and show-off (cheap), Professor.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 September 2021 15: 42
                    -5
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Commenting on possible deliveries of Russian S-300 air defense systems to Syria, Lieberman said, that Israel does not in principle oppose such supplies, but immediately added that the S-300 should not be used against Israeli Air Force aircraft.

                    1. And if he had objected, the Russian Federation would not have put it?
                    2. He did not object for this reason either:
                    1. LifeIsGood
                      LifeIsGood 20 September 2021 20: 23
                      +6
                      2. He did not object for this reason either:

                      Oh ... that is, he did not mind because the ancient Soviet radar station of Ukrainian production ST-68 was destroyed in Karabakh? Which had nothing to do with the S-300? laughing laughing
                      From the video you posted, you can immediately see you understand the topic laughing bully
                2. Okolotochny
                  Okolotochny 20 September 2021 15: 34
                  +2
                  The US presidential administration said on Monday that Washington is opposed to Russian supplies of S-300 anti-aircraft missile systems to Tehran.
                  "We have seen these messages related to the possible sale of S-300 to Iran. The US has previously expressed its objections to this," said White House spokesman Josh Ernest at a briefing.
                  He also noted that "Secretary of State John Kerry recently had the opportunity to express concern (on this issue - IF) to his Russian counterpart Sergei Lavrov."
                  Israel also criticized the lifting of the ban on the supply of air defense systems to Iran.
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 20 September 2021 15: 51
                    -5
                    Quote: Okolotochny
                    Israel also criticized the lifting of the ban on the supply of air defense systems to Iran.

                    We wrote about it 100500 times. We are afraid that our civilian airliners will be shot down with this complex.
                    1. alch3mist
                      alch3mist 20 September 2021 18: 39
                      +2
                      We wrote about it 100500 times. We are afraid that our civilian airliners will be shot down with this complex.

                      Cheap excuse. To shoot down a civilian MiG-21 airliner behind the eyes.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 20 September 2021 19: 27
                        -5
                        Quote: alch3mist
                        We wrote about it 100500 times. We are afraid that our civilian airliners will be shot down with this complex.

                        Cheap excuse. To shoot down a civilian MiG-21 airliner behind the eyes.

                        We acted with this "excuse" at the UN and beat us in the Kremlin with our foreheads. The S-300 in the hands of the ayatolas is a threat to our citizens.
                      2. LifeIsGood
                        LifeIsGood 20 September 2021 20: 24
                        +2
                        You forgot to add "Air Force personnel" hi
                    2. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 21 September 2021 06: 37
                      0
                      Yeah, if the old man C-200 landed and multiplied by zero your super-duper F-16. tongue
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 21 September 2021 12: 00
                        +1
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        Yeah, if the old man C-200 landed and multiplied by zero your super-duper F-16. tongue

                        Hundreds of bombings and only one loss, and that was the fault of the crew. Not bad at all. The old man S-200 was lucky, but the fellow S-3000 was unlucky. You just don't have to rely on luck.
                    3. Okolotochny
                      Okolotochny 21 September 2021 06: 39
                      -1
                      I quoted the words of your Minister of Defense - I wanted guarantees not to use the S-300 against the Israeli Air Force. He got them.
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 21 September 2021 12: 01
                        +1
                        Quote: Okolotochny
                        I quoted the words of your Minister of Defense - I wanted guarantees not to use the S-300 against the Israeli Air Force. He got them.

                        From whom did you get what these guarantees are worth?
                3. Flooding
                  Flooding 20 September 2021 22: 14
                  +2
                  Quote: Professor
                  The Syrians have the S-300

                  and, judging by the Syrian news, they are performing well
                  Quote: Professor
                  Armenians in Karabakh also had

                  and Azerbaijanis too
                  and what is it supposed to talk about?
                  Armenians lost one launcher that was not deployed
                  inefficiency of the complex or irresponsibility of the Armenian military?
                  1. Professor
                    Professor 21 September 2021 12: 13
                    +2
                    Quote: Flood
                    and, judging by the Syrian news, they are performing well

                    Not "not bad" but "great". Keep it up. good
                    Quote: Flood
                    and Azerbaijanis too
                    and what is it supposed to talk about?
                    Armenians lost one launcher that was not deployed
                    inefficiency of the complex or irresponsibility of the Armenian military?

                    How was it not? Of course it was, even the radar was rotating. Video above.
                    1. Flooding
                      Flooding 21 September 2021 12: 33
                      0
                      Quote: Professor

                      How was it not? Of course it was, even the radar was rotating.

                      I'm talking about a destroyed launcher
                      read carefully
                      1. Professor
                        Professor 21 September 2021 12: 55
                        +1
                        Quote: Flood
                        Quote: Professor

                        How was it not? Of course it was, even the radar was rotating.

                        I'm talking about a destroyed launcher
                        read carefully

                        And her also.
                4. aszzz888
                  aszzz888 21 September 2021 01: 31
                  0

                  Professor (Sokolov Oleg)
                  Yesterday, 14: 44
                  NEW

                  .
                  Quote: NDR-791
                  Quote: Professor
                  The S-300, however, has distinguished itself and is distinguished regularly, in Syria.

                  This is such a banter, professor ??? In fact, you should be glad that the S-300 for you in Syria has not yet worked wassat

                  Of course it didn't work. He is blind. They are bombing under his nose, but he still does not work. Spider was working.
                  fool fool fool and nothing new with you. laughing fool laughing
            2. Flooding
              Flooding 20 September 2021 14: 34
              0
              Quote: Professor

              It seems not.

              then it would be more logical for the Czechs to buy the S-125.
              with a track record of this complex.
              talking about the capabilities and price of the issue or combat use?
              feel the difference.
              as if the Georgians, if they were armed with the S-300 in 2008, could not have done the same?
        3. tralflot1832
          tralflot1832 20 September 2021 14: 34
          +1
          Yes, according to unconfirmed data, the Spider air defense system in the Georgian-Ossetian conflict shot down a TU3 missile from the third. The navigator died. But the Czechs also know that the complex was captured by our troops intact and with ammunition.
        4. ccsr
          ccsr 20 September 2021 18: 43
          -4
          Quote: Professor
          The spider, in contrast to the unbroken S-300 aircraft, has a positive combat experience. Looks like the Czechs know about it.

          No, the Czechs do not know how to deal with the Israelis - they have forgotten their experience of how they supplied equipment to Israel, and how they then threw the entire socialist camp. Now we have learned how they cleverly sold equipment for huge sums of money, which even Israel cannot protect from homemade Hamas.
          1. mvg
            mvg 21 September 2021 07: 55
            +2
            forgot their experience of how they supplied equipment to Israel, and how they then threw the whole socialist camp
            Grandpa, talk nonsense again! The Czechs sold to the Jews, with Stalin's permission, licensed copies of the BF-109 for four times more money than it cost. So to say, "they removed a little gefest", since the Jew at that time had no other options.
            And how did they throw the socialist camp, which they had never been to?
            Again, Soviet education cracks in your head?
            1. ccsr
              ccsr 21 September 2021 12: 55
              -5
              Quote: mvg
              The Czechs sold them to the Jews, with the permission of Stalin,

              So I ask - where is the monument to Comrade Stalin on the central square of Tel Aviv?
              Quote: mvg
              So to say, "they removed a little gefest", since the Jew at that time had no other options.

              Actually, there was another option, according to which Israel would never have existed at all, that's why rejoice that the leader of the peoples and the Czechs helped you.
              Quote: mvg
              And how did they throw the socialist camp, which they had never been to?

              So it was not for nothing that they were given weapons - they hoped that the kibbutzim would become collective farms and that there would be Soviet power in Israel. Comrade Stalin was mistaken - the Zionists threw him ...
              Quote: mvg
              Again, Soviet education cracks in your head?

              You do not have this, and this is noticeable in your argumentation.
      3. Aaron Zawi
        Aaron Zawi 20 September 2021 14: 30
        +4
        Quote: Maz
        Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

        Maz are you Czech? request
      4. isv000
        isv000 20 September 2021 14: 48
        0
        Quote: Maz
        Czechs, tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

        You will also eat a camel thorn if Uncle Sam's slippers are hanging over you ... bully
      5. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 20 September 2021 15: 02
        +4
        Quote: Maz
        tormented, sobbed, injected, but ate an Israeli cactus

        That from the memories of his emigration to a foreign land.
    2. Aaron Zawi
      Aaron Zawi 20 September 2021 14: 40
      -3
      And you can clarify the name of the media.

      In the Czech press, such costs are not considered suitable, noting that the cost of maintenance will eventually exceed the cost of purchasing the complexes. 
      1. isv000
        isv000 20 September 2021 14: 53
        -1
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        And you can clarify the name of the media.

        Gentlemen take their word for it!
      2. Vitaly gusin
        Vitaly gusin 20 September 2021 15: 17
        +3
        Quote: Aron Zaavi
        And you can clarify the name of the media.

        As always, the tops were tugged on, and the tsimus itself was clamped.
        “So the question is how expensive system maintenance will be. But even here the Ministry of Defense does not see the problem. participate in the procurement processes, integration into our air defense system and lifecycle support to ensure that the army quickly reaches full operational capabilities, preserves them during use and provides our industry with new opportunities. " concluded Petr Sikora, representative of the ministry."
        https://cnn.iprima.cz/koalicni-rozkol-kvuli-armadni-zakazce-cssd-kritizuje-metnaruv-spech-s-nakupem-raket-32991
  2. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 20 September 2021 13: 55
    +2
    The cost of the contract will amount to 13,7 billion kroons ($ 0,63 billion), which is significantly higher than the cost level determined when the tender was announced in 2016.

    But now the Czechs will have something to fend off the invaders.
    1. URAL72
      URAL72 20 September 2021 14: 27
      +2
      The Czechs have not fought with anyone for 300 years. Stupidly gave up. Although their army has always been at the level. But it is better to let the air defense system buy than fighters. Spider does not threaten us, there will be rockets flying over Europe, if that ...
      1. isv000
        isv000 20 September 2021 14: 54
        -2
        Quote: URAL72
        The Czechs have not fought with anyone for 300 years. Stupidly gave up.

        Not always. During WWII, the Czech armed forces joined the occupying German army ...
        1. mvg
          mvg 21 September 2021 07: 58
          -2
          Czech armed forces joined the occupying German army ...

          More details, pliz
          The equipment was supplied, for example, about 38+ Hetzers were assembled on the PZ-3300 chassis, machine guns were made, Messerschidts BF-109, but were not seen in real battles. Police functions.
          1. isv000
            isv000 21 September 2021 12: 25
            0
            More details, pliz
            The equipment was supplied, for example, about 38+ Hetzers were assembled on the PZ-3300 chassis, machine guns were made, Messerschidts BF-109, but were not seen in real battles. Police functions
            https://topwar.ru/22187-chehoslovackie-formirovaniya-vo-vtoroy-mirovoy-voyne.html fool
  3. prior
    prior 20 September 2021 13: 57
    +8
    Why does the Czech Republic need Israeli air defense systems?
    Even if we assume that someone wants to conquer the Czechs, the stronger and longer the Czech Republic resists, the worse the consequences will be for it.
    Katz correctly advised - it is better to give up immediately.
    Apparently, the United States and NATO are bending down the Czechs to spend money on weapons.
    1. NDR-791
      NDR-791 20 September 2021 14: 06
      +1
      Quote: prior
      the stronger and longer the Czech Republic resists, the worse the consequences will be for it.

      Yes, they have known this for a long time. They have experience since the 38th.
    2. isv000
      isv000 20 September 2021 14: 56
      0
      Quote: prior
      Apparently, the United States and NATO are bending down the Czechs to spend money on weapons.

      This phrase says it all.
  4. taiga2018
    taiga2018 20 September 2021 13: 58
    +2
    The main thing is that they will buy from the "right" country ...
    1. tralflot1832
      tralflot1832 20 September 2021 14: 04
      0
      Well, it’s not a Patriot to buy the Czechs? Although the Greeks have it.
      1. isv000
        isv000 20 September 2021 14: 58
        -1
        Quote: tralflot1832
        Well, it’s not a Patriot to buy the Czechs? Although the Greeks have it.

        So they could have bought the S-300 from Svidomo, if they have not sold everything, but there is a risk of snatching the bream from Uncle Sam ... hi
  5. Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 20 September 2021 14: 09
    +5
    The article is poorly written.
    It is necessary to give at least one example of the cost of such a system competing in the Czech tender.
    And so the discussion of what happens?
    1. ccsr
      ccsr 20 September 2021 18: 51
      -4
      Quote: Maki Avellievich
      It is necessary to give at least one example of the cost of such a system competing in the Czech tender.

      And who in NATO will admit to the tender the Russian air defense systems, which will certainly be cheaper than the Israeli ones? Are you keeping us for being naive? Oh well...
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 21 September 2021 08: 28
        0
        Quote: ccsr
        And who in NATO will admit to the tender the Russian air defense systems, which will certainly be cheaper than the Israeli ones? Are you keeping us for being naive? Oh well...

        The tender consisted of one system presented?
  6. Proton
    Proton 20 September 2021 14: 12
    +8
    What's the problem? Did not quite understand.
    For 20 (twenty !!!) years of operation, it is not surprising that the costs will be quite high. One salary for the military, their training (and in 20 years, many of them will retire or be transferred to higher positions) will eat up most of the costs. Normal practice.
    Operation of an ordinary car "eats up" about 10 ÷ 20% of its value in a year (depending on the mileage and operating conditions).
    Or then you need to buy something cheaper, for example ZU-23.
    1. Professor
      Professor 20 September 2021 14: 27
      -2
      Quote: Proton
      Or then you need to buy something cheaper, for example ZU-23.

      Will there be no costs for its operation for 20 years? Or will the S-400, which has no analogues in the world, cost nothing for 20 years?
      Even an AK requires maintenance and expense. I do not hear indignation.
    2. isv000
      isv000 20 September 2021 14: 59
      +3
      Quote: Proton
      Or then you need to buy something cheaper, for example ZU-23.

      Quadruple Maxim ... wassat
      1. Proton
        Proton 20 September 2021 15: 02
        0
        This is even scary to suggest - the adversaries run away in panic. You can't be so tough. laughing
    3. Vitaly gusin
      Vitaly gusin 20 September 2021 15: 30
      -5
      Quote: Proton
      For 20 (twenty !!!) years of operation, it is not surprising that the costs will be quite high.

      For YOU personally (I have not read Pastarnak, but I condemn)
      https://cnn.iprima.cz/koalicni-rozkol-kvuli-armadni-zakazce-cssd-kritizuje-metnaruv-spech-s-nakupem-raket-32991
      “So the question is how expensive system maintenance will be. But even here the Ministry of Defense sees no snag. “In addition to purchasing the system, its logistical support will also be provided on a contract basis throughout the entire life cycle for a period of 20 years. The Czech defense industry will be involved in procurement processes, integration into our air defense system and life cycle support. This will ensure that the army quickly reaches full operational capabilities, preserves them during use and provides our industry with new opportunities, ”concluded Petr Sikora, a spokesman for the ministry.
      And now CAN and put forward your vision and it is advisable to do so IS ALWAYS, not puff out your cheeks hi
      1. Proton
        Proton 20 September 2021 15: 39
        +1
        Did not understand. So I, in my opinion, wrote about this in my post. Is not it so?
        And I fully agree that maintenance costs will be high.
        It is superfluous for me personally to write so much text, I am not worthy of it.
        1. Vitaly gusin
          Vitaly gusin 20 September 2021 16: 59
          -5
          Quote: Proton
          Do not understand.

          It was written by YOU.
          For 20 (twenty !!!) years of operation, it is not surprising that the costs will be quite high.
          And yet, I will write again, I think that you deserve it.
          In addition to purchasing the system, its logistical support will also be contracted for a full life cycle of 20 years.

          Those. after purchase 20 years serves Rafael's firm without payment on the other hand. This includes training soldiers and repairing equipment.
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    4. ccsr
      ccsr 21 September 2021 13: 04
      -5
      Quote: Proton
      What's the problem? Did not quite understand.
      For 20 (twenty !!!) years of operation, it is not surprising that the costs will be quite high.

      And the problem is that with such periods of operation, the seller and the buyer also negotiate the modernization of products, and for additional money. Taking into account the fact that Russia is the world leader in armaments and does not depend on the West in its developments, we guarantee that in 20 years our complexes will be modernized repeatedly and are at the world level. But the Israelis cannot guarantee this, if only because they are not world leaders in air defense systems, and moreover, without the permission of the United States, they will not modernize anything in military equipment at all, because Americans strictly monitor how they use their developments. As they say, feel the difference for the buyer ...
  7. rocket757
    rocket757 20 September 2021 14: 36
    -1
    Maintenance costs will exceed the purchase price: the Czech Republic criticizes the acquisition of Israeli air defense systems SPYDER
    And sho, you have to pay for every new dowel-cog, every update costs a pretty penny, and without it it DOES NOT WORK!?!?!?
    Oh, how familiar it is, with any imported piece, harder than a "shovel", that's exactly what happens! soldier
  8. rotmistr60
    rotmistr60 20 September 2021 14: 40
    0
    The contract value will amount to 13,7 billion kroons ($ 0,63 billion)
    And billions of kroons a year for maintenance. But they will buy it anyway. Directly obsessed with Israeli complexes. Some are raving about the "Iron Dome", which, by and large, they have nothing to do, but prestigious - Israeli and from the Americans. Others, at a loss, decided to buy SPYDER. Walk, walk like that.
    1. mvg
      mvg 21 September 2021 08: 10
      -1
      And billions of kroons per year for maintenance

      We do not know how to read, or rather understand, as we go.
      1. rotmistr60
        rotmistr60 21 September 2021 08: 21
        +1
        From the article
        it is planned to spend more than one billion kroons annually on maintenance and repairs [SAM SPYDER]
        What is the problem and who does not know how to read more correctly?
  9. A. Privalov
    A. Privalov 20 September 2021 14: 46
    +7
    A wave of criticism rose in the Czech Republic over the weekend

    I don't care who the Czechs buy the complexes from. Nothing will break off me from this. But who is criticizing? Military experts? Short-range anti-aircraft missile systems specialists? Economists, finally? No, some idle journalists, you see, "do not consider such expenses to be suitable." Correctly the Ministry of Defense scored on them. For nefig. good
    1. Okolotochny
      Okolotochny 20 September 2021 15: 38
      +3
      I don't care who the Czechs buy the complexes from. Nothing will break off me from this. But who is criticizing? Military experts?

      Professor laughing
      1. Eugene-Eugene
        21 September 2021 04: 04
        +3
        And I remember when his comment was expected ... Bought, stolen, overeat.
  10. faiver
    faiver 20 September 2021 15: 01
    +1
    Well, let them not buy, well, or they buy but do not serve, they buy and put them away in warehouses.
    Deeply violet than the Czechs have.
  11. isv000
    isv000 20 September 2021 15: 16
    -2
    Maintenance costs will exceed the purchase price: the Czech Republic criticizes the acquisition of Israeli air defense systems SPYDER

    But the Serbs turned out to be smarter:
    "The return in use will justify the investment": the Serbian press appreciated the "front-line" S-300VM air defense system. bully
  12. Ros 56
    Ros 56 20 September 2021 15: 27
    -2
    Let them have fun, the money is not ours. Our business, if something happens, is to prove to them that they were wasted. lol
  13. Foxmara
    Foxmara 20 September 2021 22: 50
    -2
    Quote: Professor
    Wrote 100500 times

    Well, write again. it is not difficult to repeat someone else's stupidity.
  14. Foxmara
    Foxmara 20 September 2021 23: 19
    0
    Quote: Professor
    Of course it didn't work. He is blind

    Do you remember when the publicized F-35s participated in the bombing of targets in Syria - they then got up for repairs. As the Israeli most truthful press in the world wrote - because the birds broke the plane. So it is guaranteed to be protected from birds, but not to write that the Arabs shot down and barely made it to the runway? Since then, probably "bird fear" interferes. and from the territory of Lebanon and the 16th can shoot ..
  15. Zaurbek
    Zaurbek 20 September 2021 23: 22
    +3
    They want to have an air defense system and not spend it on it .... why do they need an air defense system at all? With whom and when did they last fight? There will be enough pieces of 10 Grippens for all air defense. And you can buy a purely air defense version.
  16. Foxmara
    Foxmara 23 October 2021 19: 33
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    Quote: And Us Rat
    did you use Nazi stereotypes and clichés?

    What for? I just use what the "chosen" nation itself says. It is Zionism that so strongly resembles Nazism, and we have nothing to do with it. We didn’t force you to think or speak like that. All claims to your loved ones.
    "Israeli Air Force planes have already landed in Israeli airspace"
    Is this the most honest press in the world told? The one who came up with the story about the fact that the F-35 was broken by birds? We believe every word.