In Moscow, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is still bypassing United Russia: on the preliminary results of the elections to the State Duma

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In Moscow, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is still bypassing United Russia: on the preliminary results of the elections to the State Duma

The processing of votes cast by voters in the elections to the State Duma continues. At the moment, about 54% of the ballots have been processed. According to preliminary data, the turnout in the elections was about 45%. This is about 2% lower than was recorded according to the results of the previous vote - in 2016.

At the moment, the leadership continues to be held by "United Russia" with an indicator of about 46,8% of the votes. The second place is still for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. The result of this party at this moment is about 21,5% of the vote. The top three is the Liberal Democratic Party. The party of Vladimir Zhirinovsky has almost 8%.



If we start from the current situation with the counting of votes, then two more parties are entering the lower house of the Russian parliament. These are "Fair Russia", which has about half a percent less number of approvals than the Liberal Democratic Party, and "New People" with an indicator of about 5,7%.

It is noteworthy that at the moment in Moscow the leader in the number of votes "for" the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 30% versus 29% for the "United Russia". It should also be noted that Yabloko also overcomes the 6% barrier in Moscow with a preliminary result of about XNUMX%.

“ER” crossed the 50 percent line in such regions as the Voronezh region (55,3%), Sevastopol (55,7%), Belgorod region (51%), Bryansk region (64%), Volgograd region (59%), Jewish Autonomous Region (55,2%), KBR (almost 79%), Karachay-Cherkessia (76%), Kemerovo Region (72%), Krasnodar Territory (65%), Nizhny Novgorod Region (52%), Republic of Tatarstan (81%) ), Tuva (86%), Dagestan (83%), Tula region (52%), Yamalo-Nenets Autonomous Okrug (65%) and some others. The record of support for the ruling party was again shown by the Chechen Republic, with the result currently over 96 percent of the vote.

In addition to Moscow, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has the highest results in such subjects of the Russian Federation as the Ulyanovsk region - almost 34%, the Omsk region - almost 31%, Novosibirsk - 26%, the Altai Republic - 30%, Irkutsk region - 29%, Nenets Autonomous Okrug - 33%. By the way, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug is one of those subjects where Zyuganov's party is bypassing United Russia so far.

Western media are paying attention to the preliminary results. Thus, the British media notes that the ruling party in Russia will remain the party with the largest number of seats in the State Duma. At the same time, it is added that the Communist Party of Russia has significantly strengthened its position. The Polish press directly says that "the Communist Party in these elections in Russia acted as a counterweight to the ruling party, at least in the minds of many Russians."

Comments of readers of foreign media:

While in some countries the Communist parties are banned, in Russia this party confidently takes the second place in the elections.

It must be admitted that Russians have different attitudes towards the ruling party in different regions. Somewhere she fails to get the first place, but somewhere she gains more than three quarters of the vote.

An interesting alignment of forces in Moscow. Will the Communist Party take first place there? Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?
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  1. +2
    20 September 2021 07: 33
    In addition to Moscow, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has the highest results in such subjects of the Russian Federation as the Ulyanovsk region - almost 34%, the Omsk region - almost 31%, Novosibirsk - 26%, the Altai Republic - 30%, Irkutsk region - 29%, Nenets Autonomous Okrug - 33%. By the way, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug is one of those subjects where Zyuganov's party is bypassing United Russia so far.

    Yakutia was forgotten, where the Communist Party received 35%, the United Russia only 33%. https://news.ykt.ru/article/126750?gotop.news
    It is good that now the United Russia does not have a majority of votes in the Duma, and they will have to negotiate with other parties when adopting anti-popular laws like raising the retirement age.
    1. +52
      20 September 2021 07: 39
      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
      It's good that now the United Russia does not have a majority of votes in the Duma,

      LDPR is a branch of United Russia, like New People. The Communist Party was allowed to take second place in order to reduce the tension in society.
      PS I do not know of a single person who voted for the United Russia party, neither colleagues at work, nor neighbors, nor friends and acquaintances. All voted for the Communist Party or the SR.
      Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.
      1. -17
        20 September 2021 08: 03
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        PS I do not know of a single person who voted for the United Russia party, neither colleagues at work, nor neighbors, nor friends and acquaintances. All voted for the Communist Party or the SR.
        Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.

        I myself voted for EP, although I myself am a supporter of socialism and communism, but I am already tired of all these Zyuganov, who has been conveniently attached to the trough for 30 years and has been eating sweetly from the budget trough, the huckster Grudinin, the traitor and provocateur Rashkin and others. Although in 2012 and 2016 he voted for the Communist Party, this time he decided to vote for United Russia. A fellow student also voted for the EP. So you can not indiscriminately accuse the EP of stuffing and fraud.
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        like new people

        IP is right-wing, in other words, liberals. If you read their program on their website https://newpeople.ru/program_newpeople, then there is continuous water, there are no specific tasks and promises, only for everything good and against everything bad.
        1. +35
          20 September 2021 08: 12
          If you read the program of the liberals, they are "Against everything bad" - oligarchs, thieves, corrupt officials, etc. But why they, what they will do specifically, when they come to power, I have not seen anywhere.
          1. +36
            20 September 2021 09: 15
            "Cleanse the country from oligarchs, thieves and corrupt officials, and take their places!"
        2. +1
          20 September 2021 08: 29
          Agree! Songs about stuffing and falsifications are a bogey of our enemies. As for my position on the elections, I have long lost the habit of reading the programs of parties. This is useless, because those parties that know that they will not get the majority anyway will race to lie about how they will make the people happy. If only they will be voted for. This is especially the case for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - these are not the communists who were the first to attack in the war, who broke into space. Comrade Zyuganov, only a loud voice remained from communism to speak at rallies - he is an experienced apparatchik who will buy and outbid whoever needs to be bought; it is not for nothing that such people as Bondarenko, who doubts the Russian ownership of Crimea, penetrated into the party. Edro is sure that she will get the majority, therefore she explains to the people that he does not give promises, so everything will happen "as soon as possible." I vote for individuals. For example, I like Prilepin as a writer and as a participant in the wars in Chechnya and Donbass, and this experience surpasses the experience of apparatchiks, although apparatchiks are also needed to "know the moves." I would never vote for Mironov, but in combination with Prilepin, this is at least interesting. Therefore, I voted for CP +
          1. +10
            20 September 2021 09: 00
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            For example, I like Prilepi

            On the YouTube channel Legendary units from Gennady Dubovoy, there is a video in which the fighter gave a characterization to Prilepin. Take a look
            1. +3
              20 September 2021 19: 22
              looked up to the 47th second ...
              "I want to say what I want to say." Immediately I define people whom I don't need to listen to ... IMHO
              1. +5
                20 September 2021 19: 25
                For the sake of justice I decided to look further ... I mastered 1 minute 30 seconds.
                What is that banter? how can you be guided by the opinion of THIS person? Did he get in the head with Klitschko in a duet?
                1. +2
                  20 September 2021 19: 31
                  I watched 5 minutes .... All thoughts - you owe us, money ... money ... money ..
                  I will not look further, a soldier who fights for loot is not a soldier.
                  By the way! You can't eat a drum like his in trenches and without food!
            2. +3
              20 September 2021 20: 25
              An interesting shot))) I especially liked the way he can hardly voice the theses from the piece of paper he holds in his hands. And by the way, in the "special-purpose regiment", how can there be a "corporal" with such a "callous" that he has already forgotten what his boots look like? laughing
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 21: 15
                About the same)) "special forces - not about you"))
                1. +1
                  20 September 2021 21: 18
                  It was I, unlike him, who served in the special forces. A separate battalion of the Federal Service for Special Construction. The most special spetsnaz possible. Our chief of staff explained this to us. laughing
                  1. 0
                    20 September 2021 21: 25
                    Well, you do not speak (write) like a "middle lane ragul".
                    "They are trying to shove us nonprusha crap" (c) I do not remember the film ....
                    You can't fool us with this individual))
                    1. 0
                      20 September 2021 21: 27
                      What to do ... The damned university is to blame ... They taught me to speak, write culturally ... It was terribly hard later in the army. laughing laughing laughing
          2. +25
            20 September 2021 09: 06
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            It is not for nothing that such people as Bondarenko, who doubts the Russian ownership of Crimea, have infiltrated the party.

            Why are you lying? wink The question was clearly provocative, and Bondarenko simply avoided answering.
            And in recognizing Crimea, you need to contact the heads of Sberbank, Magnit, Rosneft, Lukoil, Tatneft, Rostelecom, Pyaterochka, Gazpromneft, Gazprom and many other companies, often positioned as state-owned.
            1. -4
              20 September 2021 09: 27
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              The question was clearly provocative, and Bondarenko simply avoided answering.

              And in what way is it provocative?
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 09: 30
                Quote: Dart2027
                And in what way is it provocative?

                Explaining elementary things to you takes a long time and a dozen comments. So find a video (it's easy) and see for yourself.
                1. -4
                  20 September 2021 09: 47
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  So find a video (it's easy) and see for yourself.

                  I looked a week ago and did not find any provocation.
                  1. -6
                    20 September 2021 09: 52
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    I looked a week ago and did not find any provocation.

                    Zaputins see only what they are paid for. laughing
                    Do you want me to say: "Crimea is ours?" No, I won't. Hurray-patriotism is a terrible weapon that the authorities use to distract people from social problems. There is no patriotism.

                    For the gifted, there is an outright refusal to speak in urya-patriotic patterns.
                    1. +4
                      20 September 2021 10: 04
                      Yeah, well, here you are and pierced. It turns out that the recognition of Crimea as Russian is "a refusal to speak in urya-patriotic patterns." That Bondarenko - that Sberbank - defenders of the selfish interests of capitalism.
                      1. +4
                        20 September 2021 10: 09
                        Quote: mikh-korsakov
                        It turns out that the recognition of Crimea as Russian is "a refusal to speak in urya-patriotic patterns."

                        Don't be weird. In your opinion, with such a question, should I do it five times at once? And if you refuse, enemy? You remind me of khokhlov now, with their "Glory to Ukraine". laughing
                      2. +5
                        20 September 2021 20: 28
                        That is, the recognition of the fact that Crimea is Russian, is this urya-patriotism and "true patriot" will never say directly that Crimea is Russia?
                      3. +10
                        20 September 2021 12: 26
                        Quote: mikh-korsakov
                        That Bondarenko - that Sberbank - defenders of the selfish interests of capitalism.

                        Is Prilepin just all of himself for the people? laughing Your naivety is simply amazing. He is a typical populist. But you believe that you did everything right by doing everything exactly as planned by this very capital. laughing You have been deceived in this election, and you will be deceived in the next. If you do not want to finally turn on your brains and analyze the situation.
                      4. -1
                        20 September 2021 12: 40
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        He is a typical populist.

                        Not typical, but with an atypical orientation
                      5. -1
                        20 September 2021 15: 06
                        Quote: Overlock
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        He is a typical populist.

                        Not typical, but with an atypical orientation

                        What, did you have to get in touch? laughing
                    2. -6
                      20 September 2021 11: 38
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Zaputins see only that

                      That is, you yourself cannot find it.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      here is an outright refusal to speak in urya-patriotic templates

                      That is, direct recognition that for a communist any victory for Russia is a disaster.
                      1. +3
                        20 September 2021 12: 00
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, you yourself cannot find it.

                        I posted the text of his answer above an hour ago. Have you changed the brake pads for a long time? wink
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, direct recognition that for a communist any victory for Russia is a disaster.

                        What nonsense are you talking about?
                      2. -2
                        20 September 2021 13: 21
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        I posted the text of his answer above an hour ago.

                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, direct recognition that for a communist any victory for Russia is a disaster.

                        This follows from his answer.
                      3. +3
                        20 September 2021 12: 41
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        for a communist, any victory for Russia is a disaster.

                        I, of course, am not a communist and was not one, BUT! Name at least one victory of Russia ...
                      4. -3
                        20 September 2021 13: 20
                        Quote: Overlock
                        at least one victory of Russia

                        Crimea, Ossetia, Syria.
                      5. +1
                        20 September 2021 13: 39
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Crimea, Ossetia, Syria.

                        1. Crimea. If the Banderlog hadn't been lodged, then nothing would have happened. Crimeans were driven by fear, and before many did not care, even the "real Crimean" Aksenov

                        Typical shape-shifter
                        2. Ossetia. What is the victory? People were saved, right. Then what? Did you develop the economy there? Of course! 90% fake alcohol from Ossetia
                        3. Syria. They did not save Assad, but fought against the gas pipe from Qatar to Europe. Putin 3 times announced victory over ISIS, but for some reason the war is going on, moreover, Turkey grabbed a piece of Syria and Russia could not do anything about it. Bottom line: there is no pipe from Qatar, but there are dead compatriots, every day of the war 2.5 million greenbacks are taken from the country's budget every day. if you multiply by 6 years, then a decent amount is drawn. And there is no end to the war and there will never be.
                      6. 0
                        20 September 2021 15: 40
                        Quote: Overlock
                        If the Banderlog did not go to bed, then

                        To exploit the mistakes of the enemy is the art of command.
                        Quote: Overlock
                        Ossetia. What is the victory? People were saved, right. Then what?

                        The malice of liberals and communists.
                        Quote: Overlock
                        They did not save Assad, but fought against the gas pipe from Qatar to Europe.
                        And also with a potential threat that could come to us. However, you do not deny the fact of victory.
                        Quote: Overlock
                        every day of the war, 2.5 million greenbacks are taken from the country's budget every day. if multiply by 6 years, then a decent amount is drawn

                        I remember at the beginning of the war it was said that funding comes from the money that is spent on exercises. Which is logical, because there the military undergo practical training, and the weapon is tested in combat conditions.
                      7. +2
                        20 September 2021 17: 36
                        The malice of liberals and communists.

                        What are you antagonists brought together?
                      8. +3
                        20 September 2021 18: 50
                        Quote: alystan
                        What are you antagonists brought together?

                        Have you heard that "Smart Vote" (!!!) called for voting for the communists? Yes, and on this site I remember how many were outraged by the actions of the police during the recent riots.
                      9. +1
                        20 September 2021 16: 25
                        Quote: Overlock
                        1. Crimea. If the Banderlog hadn't been lodged, then nothing would have happened. Crimeans were driven by fear, and before many did not care, even the "real Crimean" Aksenov

                        Typical shape-shifter
                        2. Ossetia. What is the victory? People were saved, right. Then what? Did you develop the economy there? Of course! 90% fake alcohol from Ossetia
                        3. Syria. They did not save Assad, but fought against the gas pipe from Qatar to Europe. Putin 3 times announced victory over ISIS, but for some reason the war is going on, moreover, Turkey grabbed a piece of Syria and Russia could not do anything about it. Bottom line: there is no pipe from Qatar, but there are dead compatriots, every day of the war 2.5 million greenbacks are taken from the country's budget every day. if you multiply by 6 years, then a decent amount is drawn. And there is no end to the war and there will never be.

                        Where do you come from?
                        1. If only, it doesn't matter anymore, the main thing is the result, but the result is that Crimea is a part of Russia and this is a victory.
                        2. Ossetia. Ossetians and Georgians killed each other there for many years, but now no one, no one is being killed, this is the main task and this is a victory. As for the economy, money is allocated there and this is an independent republic, not within the Russian Federation.
                        3. Syria, look at what the main tasks were, and they were all resolved and voiced. You are still writing about cash injections into Syria, but judging by this, you are not a distant person yet, at our top they know how to count money, the benefits of the Syrian company have already been voiced many times, this is the real combat experience of different units, aviation, etc. (not on any exercises such experience can not be taken), this is a running-in of weapons and then revision (this also cannot be obtained during exercises) + oil wells from which we also profit and our companies work there, you modestly kept silent. I am not yet talking about the locations of our two bases, and this is very important geopolitically. Most importantly, this process is still underway and it is too early to draw final conclusions.
                        4. Karabakh, there, too, the inhabitants of Karabakh were killed for many years, now they are not, and this is also a victory.
                      10. 0
                        20 September 2021 17: 37
                        What language do you write?
                      11. +2
                        20 September 2021 18: 51
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Where do you come from?

                        For anyone hungry for change, any victory for Russia is his defeat.
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That is, direct recognition that for a communist any victory for Russia is a disaster.
                      12. +2
                        20 September 2021 21: 02
                        Quote: Achilles
                        Where do you come from?

                        Well, where do you come from, it is clear right away.
                        For all your theses are complete nonsense.
                        Ossetia, Karabakh, Syria - half measures everywhere, with an incomprehensible future perspective. In Syria, in general, nonsense is a complete, eternal conflict with no options for resolution without loss of territory.
                        And tryndet about geopolitical problems at a time when the well-being of their own people is falling every day. And despicable.
                        Although for the zaputins .......
                    3. +3
                      20 September 2021 15: 02
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      Zaputintsy see only that

                      When there are not enough arguments, labels, insults, searching for grammatical errors are used ...
                      1. -4
                        20 September 2021 21: 05
                        Quote: Piramidon
                        When there are not enough arguments, labels, insults, searching for grammatical errors are used ...

                        You tell your stubborn comrades-in-arms, who have already called me there and Psaki, and how.
              2. +5
                20 September 2021 10: 57
                The position is either there or not. It never ceased to wag and dodge a communist if he is a communist.
            2. -2
              20 September 2021 11: 29
              And who told you that I approve of the behavior of Sberbank ... (and further on your list), if I did, I would vote for EdRo. So it turns out that Bondarenko is the mouthpiece of Sberbank on the issue of Crimea's ownership and nothing more. But where does communism have to do with it, Mr. Zyuganov?
              1. +4
                20 September 2021 12: 42
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Sberbank's mouthpiece

                And Sberbank is the mouthpiece of world capitalism and the United States in particular
            3. -1
              20 September 2021 11: 49
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              And in recognizing Crimea, you need to contact the heads of Sberbank, Magnit, Rosneft, Lukoil, Tatneft, Rostelecom, Pyaterochka, Gazpromneft, Gazprom and many other companies, often positioned as state-owned.

              And, vorto you, dear man! Answer the straightforward and simple-minded question - Whose Crimea? And then everyone is nodding at any x..fignyu. and then what?
              1. +3
                20 September 2021 12: 26
                Quote: 30 vis
                Answer the straightforward and simple-minded question - Whose Crimea? And then everyone is nodding at every x..fignyu. and then what?

                You have annoyed everyone with this stupid question! Are you thumping?
                1. -3
                  20 September 2021 12: 43
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  You have annoyed everyone with this stupid question!

                  He has no others, you see
                  Quote: Stroporez
                  Are you thumping?
                2. -2
                  20 September 2021 12: 50
                  More to say not what?
              2. 0
                20 September 2021 12: 44
                Quote: 30 vis
                Whose Crimea?

                I will answer, can I? - Russian capital, oligarchs, special services.
                1. +2
                  20 September 2021 13: 21
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  That is, direct recognition that for a communist any victory for Russia is a disaster.
              3. +8
                20 September 2021 13: 37
                Quote: 30 vis
                Whose Crimea?

                You are throwing garbage. Our Crimea, has it become easier? But the Donbass, in a truncated form, has been living in an incomprehensible status for 6 years, the entire previously pro-Russian part of Ukraine is now already pro-Russian. And all because Uncle Vova trukhanul after the last Swiss warning.
                PS Weakly Gref answer to ask? Or Sechin and Miller?
                1. -2
                  20 September 2021 13: 44
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  You are throwing garbage.

                  And what can he do?
                2. -2
                  20 September 2021 16: 26
                  Our Crimea, has it become easier? But the Donbass, in a truncated form, has been living in an incomprehensible status for 6 years, the entire previously pro-Russian part of Ukraine is now already pro-bonded.

                  But the question about Crimea can be asked about Russia itself - Whose Russia? And the answer can be different, for example, to say that it has already been divided between the new owners and who de jure are the real owners of all the wealth of the country. Say no? Formally, you will be right, but in fact you will not. So with the Crimea, everything seems to be in order, but when you read the news about the peninsula, this idyll simply dissolves into thin air - there are so many unresolved and simply unsolved problems by the authorities.
                  And there are also many questions to the new Crimeans with Russian passports - there are outright Pro-Banederians, there are passports that have hidden their old ones with trident-like passports, etc. etc.
                  And just like in the case of the rest of Russia, Crimea has long been divided between "friends", no matter how sad it sounds !?
                3. +2
                  20 September 2021 18: 41
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  And all because Uncle Vova trukhanul after the last Swiss warning.

                  Thank God that Russia did not put it in its pants with the adoption of Sevastopol-Crimea! I personally ,Sevastopol, until the last time I didn’t believe that you wouldn’t be afraid ... Do not be afraid. Thanks to Russia and the Russian people. The time will come and we will return the entire New Russia. So far, the situation is not in our favor. Yes, and will return the Russian people, and not your beloved gentlemen, as well as the communist comrades who betrayed the USSR and divided the camp into small pieces. Communist princes ... bai ..
                  1. +1
                    20 September 2021 21: 08
                    Quote: 30 vis
                    The time will come and we will return the entire New Russia. So far, the situation is not in our favor.

                    Two questions: When will we return, and why is the situation not in our favor? The second question is key.
                    1. 0
                      21 September 2021 09: 33
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      and why is the situation not in our favor? The second question is key.
                      Omeriga -The Hegemon is still too strong. Has the ability to destroy Russia without hostilities. Now these opportunities are weaker. And they will only get weaker. In the future, the collapse of NATO is possible. Not completely, but there will be no complete unity, and the sanctions will no longer be so suffocating .. Then there will be a window of opportunity for Russia and Ukraine. In the meantime, shake and separate their alliances and formations. Or is there still such an opportunity to push Svidoukrii into a war with the Russian Federation.
            4. -3
              20 September 2021 15: 57
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Why are you lying? The question was clearly provocative, and Bondarenko simply avoided answering.

              Are you that stupid person? Who are the deputies of the State Duma, are these civil servants and receive money from the state, the State Duma fully supported the reunification of Crimea, and when you hear that there was an allegedly provocative question, what is it, what is it called? You yourself have hung up on your own ears and do not want to shoot, Bondarenko is a foe and not a worthy person.
              You here started comparing to the heads of enterprises, I ask you again, are you that stupid?
              I explain all these Sberbank, Magnit, Rosneft, Lukoil, Tatneft, Rostelecom, Pyaterochka, Gazpromneft, Gazprom, these are not government employees, but who bring profit to their enterprises and pay taxes to the treasury, so they must first of all look at their losses, now we have capitalism and counting money, that's when there is a go-ahead from the state, then these enterprises will officially go into operation. And so, in Crimea, many of those that you listed are already located, not officially, but through subsidiaries.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 17: 11
                The journalist made the question provocative because it was on the eve of the elections. And the provocateur is just a journalist who "wanted" a short and clear answer. Bondarenko could have said Yes or No, and it would have been just like a day, but he probably knew the situation on the spot (in Crimea) just as well as you and me, if not better. And instead of a short answer, he could "speculate" on this topic, but did not.
                Whether he is an enemy or not, I do not know, and therefore I would not hang such a label on a person, but I did not like his behavior, he behaves a little unbridled or something.
                Almost all of the enterprises listed on paper are, as it were, half (and even +1) owned by the state, but what is the use of this? And what kind of capitalism is it then that is waiting for the go-ahead from the native state to come and work in Crimea? The head of Sberbank at one time openly justified his unwillingness to go to Crimea by the presence of American sanctions, and not the need to wait for a signal from the state. It was he who was frank here and it was clear to whom he was in fact subordinate and whose permission was more important to him !?
                1. 0
                  21 September 2021 09: 13
                  Quote: alystan
                  The journalist made the question provocative because it was on the eve of the elections. And the provocateur is just a journalist who "wanted" a short and clear answer. Bondarenko could have said Yes or No, and it would have been just like a day, but he probably knew the situation on the spot (in Crimea) just as well as you and me, if not better. And instead of a short answer, he could "speculate" on this topic, but did not.

                  You again don’t understand, he is a deputy of the State Duma and the deputies in full force recognized Crimea + such questions were asked to other deputies from the United Russia, the Liberal Democratic Party, and from the same Communist Party and others, and everyone said that Crimea was part of Russia (except for Yabloko and the like), Bandarenko who is he? then. For him, this question is provocative, for everyone else it is normal, no. That's the difference.
              2. 0
                20 September 2021 21: 13
                Quote: Achilles
                bringing profits to their enterprises and paying taxes to the treasury, so they should first of all look at their losses,

                Thinking of a corrupt woman, and with a business case. Fu, disgusting.
                The concept of honor of the state is not familiar to you.
                It is thanks to people like you that our athletes perform under a faceless flag even in the capital of our Motherland.
                1. +1
                  20 September 2021 21: 42
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  The concept of honor of the state is not familiar to you.

                  So defend him with a weapon in hand.
                  1. +1
                    20 September 2021 23: 15
                    All in good time.
                    1. +1
                      21 September 2021 07: 09
                      That's it, everything is as usual.
                      1. +1
                        21 September 2021 07: 12
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        That's it, everything is as usual.

                        And you wanted me here to start calling for an armed uprising? laughing
                        You ought to sleep while still malya. wink
                      2. 0
                        21 September 2021 08: 50
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And you wanted me here to start calling for an armed uprising?

                        What for? Volunteer for Donetsk.
                2. 0
                  21 September 2021 09: 06
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  Thinking of a corrupt woman, and with a business case. Fu, disgusting.
                  The concept of honor of the state is not familiar to you.

                  It's funny, but your thoughts are not a distant person who does not think about the future ahead. All these firms and the state are primarily responsible for all citizens of the Russian Federation, if they enter directly, the losses will be colossal, if not catastrophic, but judging by your little brains, you do not understand this, but the management of these firms and our state are all they understand it.
                  And what does the corrupt woman have to do with it? If it is possible to work in Crimea through delivery companies and everyone is happy, why go straight to prove something? So that in the end, all other citizens of the Russian Federation suffered because of your ambitions and not distant thinking.
            5. +1
              20 September 2021 17: 17
              often positioned as state

              Not positioned as, and often being state-owned by ownership of a controlling stake.
          3. +14
            20 September 2021 09: 51
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Agree! Songs about stuffing and falsifications are a bogey of our enemies.

            You know, from the elections to the elections I noticed a suspiciously strange tendency. At the beginning of the counting of votes at United Russia, well, using the example of these elections, 42% then, as the remaining bellutens are processed, the rating begins to grow and grow, and now it is already 50%. I have never seen the opposite situation! There is something to think about.
            1. -4
              20 September 2021 10: 13
              Flyer. I also paid attention. The fact is that due to the change in time with time zones, the counting starts from the Far East, and there the protests are steeper than in central Russia. In central Russia, there is a larger proportion of the rural population, which out of habit vote as stated. Compare, for example, the turnout and voting results in the agricultural Belgorod region and, say, in the Amur region. True, there are exceptions this year. Navalny's foreign fans suggested voting for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation instead of Edro, and in Moscow and St. Although I personally read Engels with pleasure. But now outdated.
              1. +1
                20 September 2021 16: 58
                Quote: mikh-korsakov
                Navalny's foreign fans suggested voting for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation instead of Edro, and in Moscow and St. Petersburg, where they listen to the fans, everyone suddenly signed up to admire the teachings of Marx-Engels.

                Well, where is the logic? If such mega-cities as Moscow and St. Petersburg voted for the Communists, why did the Communists have a falling percentage throughout the calculations, while Edra's percentage grew?
                1. -1
                  20 September 2021 21: 19
                  Are you an enemy or a complete flyer?
            2. 0
              20 September 2021 15: 15
              Quote: Letun
              then, as the remaining bellutenes are processed, the rating begins to grow and grow

              The results are coming from distant camps. The people there do not feel any power at all. They were told: a communist is good, a liberal is good ... and the edros are better. They voted. laughing
            3. 0
              20 September 2021 17: 20
              Remember how grandfather Biden over the last night "tamed" all the numbers in his favor!
              Do you think everything is arranged differently here? If you are interested, then look for information about the chief deputy head of the CEC Ella Pamfilova Nikolai Bulaev, you may find the answer to your question.
          4. -1
            20 September 2021 12: 33
            Quote: mikh-korsakov
            Songs about stuffing and falsifications are a bogey of our enemies.

            Explain, who are these "our" enemies who are scattering bogeymen about falsifications?
            And how do you explain these facts in the video? By the machinations of the gazdep?
          5. -1
            20 September 2021 17: 32
            I like Prilepin as a writer and as a participant in the wars in Chechnya "
            There is such a site "Free Press" with the chief editor of the name. Come in and write a couple of comments for the President, but against the liberal stratum. The result will surprise you greatly.
        3. +20
          20 September 2021 08: 30
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          I myself voted for EP, although I myself am a supporter of socialism and communism, but I'm already tired of all these

          that is, in your opinion, out of all the parties on the list, United Russia is closest to socialism and communism ?! wassat
          1. +5
            20 September 2021 09: 01
            Quote: Stirbjorn
            that is, in your opinion, of all the parties on the list, EP is the closest to socialism and communism?

            Zyu, Grudinin and Rashkin have nothing to do with communism and socialism.
            1. +14
              20 September 2021 09: 18
              But the LADIES and the hedgehog with him, the most directly related to both socialism and communism laughing
              1. -16
                20 September 2021 09: 19
                Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
                But the LADIES and the hedgehog with him, the most directly related to both socialism and communism

                United Russia is essentially Putin's party, and since I support Putin, I had to vote for United Russia this time angry
                1. +8
                  20 September 2021 10: 03
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  United Russia is essentially Putin's party, and since I support Putin, I had to vote for United Russia this time

                  Well, Putin is a liberal, he himself spoke about it many times, where does communism and socialism have to do with it ?!
                  Russian President Vladimir Putin in an interview with a number of Russian and foreign television channels affirmatively answered a statement by a journalist who asked him to confirm that he was “a true liberal and holds liberal views”
                  https://lenta.ru/news/2014/01/19/liberally/
                  1. -12
                    20 September 2021 10: 40
                    Well, for how beautifully he squeezed Crimea from Bendera and mattress makers, you can forgive him a lot. Putin is certainly not ideal, but who do you see instead of him? Navalny? Zyuganov? Maybe Grudinin? wassat
                    1. +7
                      20 September 2021 11: 05
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      for how beautiful he is squeezed out Crimea from Bendera and mattress makers, you can forgive him a lot.

                      Putin himself categorically denies this. He claims that this is entirely the merit of the Crimeans. And there really was no war.

                      But all the same, Putin must be given justice - this is a merit. He started well ... only he ended badly. The Russian Spring has failed. Well, the propagandists quickly renamed it Crimean.

                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      Putin is certainly not ideal, but who do you see instead of him? ... Maybe Grudinin?

                      I voted for him! Not a bad choice. At least, this is the best of what is now, especially on the throne.
                      1. -2
                        20 September 2021 11: 41
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Putin himself categorically denies this. He claims that this is entirely the merit of the Crimeans.

                        And he does the right thing. And the fact that without the help of the RF Armed Forces they would not have been able to do anything, because these are the details.
                    2. +2
                      20 September 2021 12: 50
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      ... he's beautiful squeezed out Crimea from Bendera

                      Your lexicon is gangster, however. Translated into common, cultural, it means-
                      "by force take possession of something; take away something valuable. "
                      https://ru.wiktionary.org/wiki/%D0%BE%D1%82%D0%B6%D0%B0%D1%82%D1%8C
                      Thus, you let your boss down, confirming that he captured the Crimea by force. And this is already a criminal article crying for you
                    3. 0
                      20 September 2021 12: 52
                      Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                      Putin is certainly not ideal, but who do you see instead of him?

                      So the country will end after him? He is irreplaceable! What ended many years of Brezhnev do not want to remember?
                      1. -1
                        20 September 2021 13: 59
                        new, young, tagged, bald .. to continue?
                2. +3
                  20 September 2021 12: 46
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  had to vote this time for the EP

                  Poor fellow you are ours! Well, I didn't want to, I felt sick, to vote for the ERP, but ...
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  .... I support Putin ...
                  и
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  ...had to vote...
              2. -2
                20 September 2021 11: 34
                Daniel. True yours, the LADIES is not related to communism, but to Gazprom. But what's wrong with that? Gazprom produces gas and is getting rich from this. True, our Ukrainian brothers believe that the gas is bad, although they themselves steal it, but you yourself understand this "business as it is"
            2. +4
              20 September 2021 09: 59
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Zyu, Grudinin and Rashkin have nothing to do with communism and socialism.
              Volodin and Medvedev do they have ?! wassat
            3. +1
              20 September 2021 10: 47
              Do they have edros?
          2. +3
            20 September 2021 10: 12
            that is, in your opinion, out of all the parties on the list, United Russia is closest to socialism and communism ?!
            Not the correct conclusion. The list does not include parties that are in any way close to socialism and communism. NONE! Not in name, but in fact, there are only bourgeois of various kinds.
            1. -1
              20 September 2021 11: 01
              Explain what communism is in your opinion, otherwise it is difficult to agree.
              1. +2
                20 September 2021 11: 04
                Explain what communism is in your opinion
                Not in my opinion, but by definition. Read the classics. And also, judge the activities of parties not by declarations, but by deeds.
          3. -1
            20 September 2021 16: 30
            EP is closest to socialism and communism?
            Of the contingent that is there, perhaps the closest. Also the Communists of Russia, maybe I voted for them ...
        4. +16
          20 September 2021 08: 32
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          I myself voted for EP, although himself a supporter of socialism and communism, but already tired of all these Zyuganov

          What a wonderful supporter!

          I will drown for the enemies, because I do not like my leaders! There is some logic in this, but you can hardly call it healthy.
          1. -7
            20 September 2021 09: 03
            Quote: Stas157
            I will drown for the enemies, because I do not like my leaders! There is some logic in this, but you can hardly call it healthy.

            10 years ago it was time for old Zyu to retire, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation needs new leaders, young and energetic, and not these gerontocrats like Zyu, hucksters like Grudinin and provocateurs and traitors like Rashkin.
            1. +5
              20 September 2021 09: 55
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              The Communist Party needs new leaders, young and energetic

              According to this logic, in the late 80s, a young and energetic Gorbachev was appointed secretary of the CPSU Central Committee. What this led to, I think there is no need to explain ...
              1. -1
                20 September 2021 09: 59
                This is understandable, but Siyu is really time to rest. Here are just a misunderstanding successor. Now they predict one, but he is too tolerant, and looks like a major.
                To be honest, Grudinin would have been better. He is not as radical as Rashkin, but he knows how to unite people. hi
                1. +1
                  20 September 2021 11: 01
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  This is understandable, but Siyu is really time to rest. Here are just a misunderstanding successor. Now they predict one, but he is too tolerant, and looks like a major.
                  To be honest, Grudinin would have been better. He is not as radical as Rashkin, but he knows how to unite people.

                  Afonin "eccentric", long history, careerist and cunning fool. They failed Grudinin's previous campaign.
              2. -1
                20 September 2021 10: 42
                Quote: Letun
                According to this logic, in the late 80s, a young and energetic Gorbachev was appointed secretary of the CPSU Central Committee. What this led to, I think there is no need to explain ...

                But Gorbachev then became the leader of the country, and now a young leader is needed to shake up the stagnant swamp that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has become.
                1. +3
                  20 September 2021 12: 56
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  to shake up the stagnant swamp, which has become the Communist Party.

                  Is United Russia not a swamp?
            2. +2
              20 September 2021 12: 55
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              10 years ago it was time for old Ziu to retire, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation needs new leaders, young and energetic

              Very commendable! But why does not Putin himself retire, has long since reached retirement age? The country needs fresh forces, the only clarification is not the "golden youth" of our elite. These will surely ruin the country
            3. 0
              20 September 2021 18: 05
              Something all your answers revolve around this trinity ?!
              Better tell us how you feel about Volodin, for example!
              Who is he to you, and what kind of person is he? For me, he's some kind of muddy, especially his whole family ...
        5. -8
          20 September 2021 08: 41
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          IP is right-wing, in other words, liberals.

          All right, but created by the Kremlin, free from the influence of the West.
          1. +1
            20 September 2021 12: 59
            Quote: Andobor
            but created by the Kremlin, free from Western influence.

            Is the Kremlin itself free from the influence of the West? Chubais even became the Kremlin's special envoy for negotiations with this West. And Chubais is on the board, as they say. Therefore, the Kremlin is vitally interested in the West, and the West does nothing "for this"
        6. +1
          20 September 2021 08: 59
          Well, in our country "me and my friends" this is the entire population ... Well, migrant workers.
        7. +4
          20 September 2021 09: 24
          Quote: Kot_Kuzya
          but already tired of all these

          And those means are not bored? Stop lying. So this power is trite to you. And you do not care about all the other representatives of the middle class with an income of 17 thousand rubles. You are quite happy with this economic situation. But don't cry if tomorrow you get hit on the head with this economy. You deserved.
          1. -19
            20 September 2021 10: 43
            Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
            And you do not care about all the other representatives of the middle class with an income of 17 thousand rubles. You are quite happy with this economic situation. But don't cry if tomorrow you get hit on the head with this economy. You deserved.

            Don’t lie, for a long time there are no salaries of 17 thousand, for the most part people have a salary of 60-80 thousand. Even I, a beggar state employee who works as a forecaster, has an average salary of 75 thousand.
            1. +6
              20 September 2021 10: 55
              For a long time there are no salaries of 17 thousand, for the most part people have a salary of 60-80 thousand.

              Where is this Russia? Draw the borders at least. Otherwise I will foolishly break and wander from my Russia to yours. We are working for 25 for the present, and for 45 they are already plowing.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 11: 27
                Quote: dauria
                Where is this Russia? Draw the borders at least. Otherwise I will foolishly break and wander from my Russia to yours. We are working for 25 for the present, and for 45 they are already plowing.

                I live in Yakutsk, and 75 thousand is not enough, the air navigation dispatcher gets 400 thousand each. We work with them in the same building, and they laugh at our salaries.
                1. +2
                  20 September 2021 12: 32
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  I live in Yakutsk, and 75 thousand is not enough, the Air Navigation Dispatcher gets 400 thousand each... We work with them in the same building, and they laugh at our salaries.

                  I decided to check. Interestingly ... such salaries! Maybe to jerk in Yakutia)) The first thing that fell out in Yakutia:

                  Flight dispatcher
                  Ulan-Ude
                  Airline Barguzin
                  Salary from 35000 rub.
                  Employment type Full employment
                  Experience More than 1 year
                  Category Transport, logistics
                  Created on hh.ru Published on August 31, 2021

                  An order of magnitude less.
                  https://ulan-ude.jobfilter.ru/vacancy/72694058
                  1. +3
                    20 September 2021 13: 00
                    Quote: Stas157
                    I decided to check it out.

                    Don't argue with the bot
                  2. -1
                    20 September 2021 13: 23
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Salary from 35000 rubles.

                    From means there will be more.
                  3. -1
                    20 September 2021 18: 07
                    Stas, Yakutsk and Ulan-Ude are different things, what was your geography?
                    1. +1
                      20 September 2021 23: 31
                      Quote: alystan
                      Stas, Yakutsk and Ulan-Ude these are different things, what was your geography?

                      And ... as if Buryatia is not the Far East, this is the Moscow region !!

                      Ale! We're talking about salaries in Russia ... What are you doing here? Where did you find different things, geographer!
                2. +5
                  20 September 2021 13: 20
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  I live in Yakutsk, and 75 thousand is not enough

                  In Yakutia, the average is 35 rubles. Average in Russia - 869 rubles.
                  https://bdex.ru/ratings/regions-salary/
            2. +14
              20 September 2021 11: 07
              Quote: Kot_Kuzya
              Don't lie, there are no 17 thousand salaries for a long time

              I recently found out how much is the salary of a teacher in one rural school. With all surcharges, experience and so on. Less than 20 thousand But of course I need to trust you. Forecaster. By the way, you work badly. At 75 thousand it does not work.
              1. -14
                20 September 2021 11: 30
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                I recently found out how much is the salary of a teacher in one rural school. With all surcharges, experience and so on. Less than 20 thousand But of course I need to trust you. Forecaster. By the way, you work badly. At 75 thousand it does not work.

                Teachers have a salary of at least 70 thousand, and principals have at least twice as much:
                The capital's school principals and their deputies reported on their income for the past year. The average salary of the management of Yakutsk city schools averages 150 thousand rubles. So, here's a breakdown by school.
                https://joker.ykt.ru/2021/06/01/srednyaya-zarabotnaya-plata-u-direktorov-shkol-yakutska-sostavlyaet-150-tysyach-rubley.html
                1. +9
                  20 September 2021 11: 47
                  Quote: Kot_Kuzya
                  Teachers have a salary of at least 70 thousand, and principals have at least twice as much:

                  Oha, oha. In metropolitan schools. And the director. Well done, weather forecaster. You're lying just fine. Brazen and shameless. By the way, do you want to work as a postman for something about 20 thousand?
            3. +12
              20 September 2021 11: 16
              "Don't lie, for a long time there are no salaries of 17 thousand, for the most part people have a salary of 60-80 thousand."

              Masterpiece! Sir, in your loyalist frenzy you have already lost something completely on the coast ..
              1. -11
                20 September 2021 11: 32
                Quote: Van 16
                Masterpiece! Sir, in your loyalist frenzy you have already lost something completely on the coast ..

                Just don’t lie that teachers earn less than 20 thousand:
                The capital's school principals and their deputies reported on their income for the past year. The average salary of the management of Yakutsk city schools averages 150 thousand rubles. So, here's a breakdown by school.
                https://joker.ykt.ru/2021/06/01/srednyaya-zarabotnaya-plata-u-direktorov-shkol-yakutska-sostavlyaet-150-tysyach-rubley.html
        8. +9
          20 September 2021 09: 48
          So you can not indiscriminately accuse the EP of stuffing and fraud.

          That is, all the stuffing and carousels are the work of the communists?
        9. 0
          20 September 2021 10: 01
          So they (the new people) will be the EP's lures.
        10. 0
          20 September 2021 18: 41
          I myself voted for EP, although I myself am a supporter of socialism and communism, but I am already tired of all these Zyuganov, who has been conveniently attached to the trough for 30 years and has been eating sweetly from the budget trough, the huckster Grudinin, the traitor and provocateur Rashkin and others. Although in 2012 and 2016 he voted for the Communist Party, this time he decided to vote for United Russia. A fellow student also voted for the EP. So you can not indiscriminately accuse the EP of stuffing and fraud.

          Why would a person have sketched the minuses? Personally, I plusanul to align to zero. Plus he gave for an attempt to substantiate (justify) the origin of his betrayal to the ideals of social justice. It turns out, according to Kuzma, it is only the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and personally Zyuganov (whom I myself do not like for having "grabbed" the post as well as the "guarantor"), receive budgetary funding, and the rest of the Duma parties are obviously altruists. Particularly touching is the argument that since he personally - Kuzma - (it is not clear why, having betrayed his previous social views and worldview), voted for United Russia (including some classmate), then there could be no fraud, because this is a "sweeping" accusation.
          I was specially interested not only from my friends, but also from my acquaintances - 99% voted against United Russia, with the exception of one OBZh teacher (military pensioner), who is a member of the precinct election commission and is looking forward to the payment of "30 pieces of silver" for "work "in the commission, and the other (the victim of a zombie) is a bus driver from Sevastopol. The rest are all friends - for the Communist Party (although they also personally dislike Zyuganov). I will never believe that after the "zeroing" and other changes to the Constitution, the pension "reform", etc. more than 10% of voters could vote for United Russia.
          I learned with bitterness that in the Voronezh region, the results of 2021 were counted - more than 55% of the votes were for the United Russia. This is a clear forgery of the election results. It is disappointing that most of the participants in this forgery - teachers and other ordinary citizens - are members of precinct election commissions. Although until 2016, in the Voronezh region, the results of the elections were correctly considered and, as a rule, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won the elections. And then, suddenly, the population changed its shoes, and this was after the "pension reform"? Believe it - sign dementia. Thus, the turnout in Voronezh is 33,69% (281), and in the region as a whole - 844% (53,57). That is, in the region, where there are approximately the same number of voters as in Voronezh, 973 more voters came to the polls. Who will believe it?
        11. 0
          20 September 2021 20: 48
          Kuzya, your sidelocks in the borscht are dirty ...
        12. 0
          21 September 2021 04: 48
          You are an uncle or a noble Troll, or, to put it mildly, not an intelligent person, with such arguments as yours should be prohibited from voting.
        13. -1
          21 September 2021 08: 39
          Liberators are those who open the Yeltsin centers?
      2. -26
        20 September 2021 08: 04
        I do not know a single person who would vote for the communists who destroyed the USSR or for the nationalists from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia or populists from the SR, the majority voted for United Russia, for maintaining the current course of development of the country.

        Moscow got drunk, they don't want to work, but they want to live like in Europe.
        1. +11
          20 September 2021 08: 11
          And I do not know a single person who would really believe that something can be changed during the elections.
          1. +10
            20 September 2021 08: 39
            Yeah, only bourgeois can win in bourgeois elections smile
          2. +1
            20 September 2021 08: 48
            Quote: syndicalist
            And I do not know a single person who would really believe that something can be changed during the elections.

            No, there are a lot of such people, unfortunately. According to official figures, their
            ... voter turnout was around 45%

            And again the party in power won ...
            1. -3
              20 September 2021 09: 05
              Fortunately, there are a lot of people who understand that elections decide a lot and that this event is very serious and decisive for the country.

              But there are also a lot of mediocrities who are clever about the uselessness of elections.
            2. -1
              20 September 2021 09: 30
              Quote: Doccor18
              And again the party in power won ...

              Of course. I said that the authorities needed a turnout. But boobies massively on the Internet shouted about how they would vote for the Communist Party and win. Yeah won. Now they are yelling that everyone who did not come is to blame and that the Communist Party did not win. Well, what can I say if their history of 30 years of national sovereign democracy has not taught anything, this is already a diagnosis.
              1. +3
                20 September 2021 09: 39
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                But boobies massively on the Internet yelled about how they would vote for the Communist Party

                I'm one of those boobies, remember? wink
                But you still need to walk, because the voter will be offended by the rigging, and he is more motivated to take more decisive actions.
                1. 0
                  20 September 2021 09: 49
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  I'm one of those boobies, remember?

                  Well, get rid of your illusions. Think with your head, and not with manuals from fighters for all good things in your favor.
                  Which of us was right in the end? I! Because I tried to think and analyze the situation and did not believe all these shouters, fools and provocateurs.
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  But you still need to walk, because the voter will be offended by the rigging, and he is more motivated to take more decisive actions.

                  Yes Yes. Of course. And what is there when to expect a revolution? Will it happen today before lunch or will you have to wait until evening? I watch you and the current rake in the forehead did not make you think. It is sad.
                  1. +2
                    20 September 2021 10: 22
                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    Yes Yes. Of course. And what is there when to expect a revolution?

                    I have already asked you, which way out will you give?
                    On the elections, I voiced my point of view to you - a person who went to the elections and was deceived is more angry and motivated to take decisive action. This is an axiom.
                    1. -1
                      20 September 2021 10: 55
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      I have already asked you, which way out will you give?

                      And I already said. Boycott with further action. But you wanted to ride the rake again. Life teaches you nothing.
                      Quote: Ingvar 72
                      the person who went to the polls and was deceived is more angry and motivated to take decisive action. This is an axiom.

                      So when to expect a revolution? In this election you missed your chance to somehow influence the situation bloodlessly. In the future, if they begin to tighten the nuts, it can reach a lot of blood.
                      1. +5
                        20 September 2021 11: 12
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Boycott with further action.

                        It won't get you anywhere. For decades they will drive state employees, dead souls and security officials with convicts, and create the appearance of a turnout.
                        There is only one way out - an uprising against the arbitrariness and destruction of the country. The problem with the critical mass in society. Here the anger from electoral fraud helps to achieve it.
                      2. +5
                        20 September 2021 11: 34
                        The problem with the critical mass in society.

                        Maybe it will start from Khabarovsk. And then there they simply impudently cheated Degtyarev's voices.
                      3. +1
                        20 September 2021 11: 37
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It won't get you anywhere.

                        You have never tried this. And speak with confidence. At the same time, the experience of voting is not to your use and you persistently continue to try to win at the casino. Where is the logic?
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        There is only one way out - an uprising against the arbitrariness and destruction of the country.

                        It's true. You will only succeed in destruction. Even faster than the EP. Because you don't want to think like Lenin. Just shout slogans and act according to the manuals of fools and provocateurs.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Here the anger from electoral fraud helps to achieve it.

                        Somehow, all 30 years it does not help in any way. I will tell you more that the next elections will be won by Putin or another protégé of the system. And again you will whine that you were beaten by thimblers and so on. And accumulate anger. Until you leave with her into another world. And your dreamers will remain so dreamers.
                      4. +1
                        20 September 2021 13: 14
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        The problem with the critical mass in society.

                        The mentality is not the same. Whether it was the Ukrainians, they overthrew and overthrew Yanukovych, Poroshenko did not like it, they reelected. Democracy through elections. With the Maidan pierced
                      5. -2
                        20 September 2021 13: 24
                        Quote: Overlock
                        did not like Poroshenko- re-elected

                        And how did it help?
                      6. +1
                        20 September 2021 13: 28
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        And how did it help?

                        This is the second question. But the oligarch Medvedchuk is sitting at home with a bracelet, Kolomoisky is hiding in Israel, and the rest have reduced their agility.
                      7. -1
                        20 September 2021 13: 32
                        Quote: Overlock
                        This is the second question.

                        That is not.
                        Quote: Overlock
                        But oligarch Medvedchuk is sitting at home with a bracelet

                        Not in prison, but in his house where his servants are around.
                        Quote: Overlock
                        Kolomoisky is hiding in Israel

                        And what should he do in Ukraine? There, his subordinates take the rap.
                      8. +2
                        20 September 2021 11: 17
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        And I already said. Boycott with further action. But you wanted to ride the rake again. Life teaches you nothing.

                        And I agree with both of your positions, both yours and Ingvar! But on one condition, both must be massive, and the boycott must be active.
                        And now a simple example, some of my friends are not poor fellows, they have been politicized lately and decided for the first time in 25 years !!! go to the polls and why should I dissuade them ?, but this is their first step. I will say more of the 30 people in the inner circle 28 are against the government, including the chief executive, and 2 occupy important posts.
                      9. 0
                        20 September 2021 12: 19
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        And I agree with your both positions, and yours and Ingvar!

                        Given that they are exactly the opposite, it looks like schizophrenia.
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        And now a simple example, some of my friends are not poor fellows, they have been politicized lately and decided for the first time in 25 years !!! go to the polls and why should I dissuade them?

                        Actually, yes. And explain why. And now, according to the results, they may well not show any political activity for another 25 years. Simply because they will be disappointed in the voting results.
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        I will say more of the 30 people in the inner circle 28 are against the authorities, including the chief executive, and 2 occupy important posts.

                        Fuck it to the point. If every time the wrong actions lead to disastrous results.
                      10. +2
                        20 September 2021 12: 55
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Fuck it to the point. If every time the wrong actions lead to disastrous results.

                        I'm not a fan of arguing with like-minded people, but in this case, we just don't want to hear each other.
                        I understand that the election is a scam, hence two positions are boycott or against.
                        In both cases, we are in the red. In the first, the turnout will be rigged, in the second, voices.
                        If you do not go, then Putin's grandmothers and ochriniteli + dead souls will vote, if you go, then the votes will be manipulated.
                        If you do something, then do it en masse, while declaring this and the possible consequences.
                        On the spot siu, you can generally say that all this is crap, and to refuse mandates is polit. crisis, then it’s clear. That’s if it’s short.
                        PySy. By the way, the Lenin you mentioned changed his tactics.
                      11. +2
                        20 September 2021 13: 26
                        Yes, you finally understand that they need a turnout. I know many examples, including at my own enterprise, when they demanded to vote without any recommendation for whom to vote. Do you have any idea why this was needed? Explain?
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        By the way, the Lenin you mentioned changed his tactics.

                        Exactly, and you have it the same for 30 years. Go to the polls, lose to cheaters and whine then how you were once again deceived.
                      12. +2
                        20 September 2021 14: 03
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        Exactly, and you have it the same for 30 years. Go to the polls, lose to cheaters and whine then how you were once again deceived.

                        laughing Comrad, it's definitely not me, I know the results since 1996 Yes
                      13. +1
                        20 September 2021 14: 24
                        That is, if you are objective, it turns out that you need this vote solely for a formal cleansing of conscience.
                      14. +3
                        20 September 2021 15: 08
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        That is, if you are objective, it turns out that you need this vote solely for a formal cleansing of conscience.

                        No, no, no, this is not sado-maso laughing In this case, rather as a personal example, with explanations of the process itself and its results. laughing
                        I will even clarify, not since 1996, but since 1993, I realized that power without blood will not be given away and no one will reckon with the victims ..., then Rokhlin ...
                        When I was in a dumka for the first time on an "excursion", I immediately understood everything and told my comrade, "people built COMMUNISM in a separate building," they thought that communism was not enough for everyone, so at least someone needs to take advantage of its fruits Yes
                        Everything that the average man sees is a popular shell and antics for the plebs, including patriotism, speeches from the screen, declarations, decrees, everything is a picture.
                        and if people recognize at least the 1000th part of what is inside, they will either turn oohrish or not believe.
                        Echoes-scraps of what is happening sometimes seep out, like a scandal Deripaska-fish-prihodko, like Ivanov throws in passing, they are XXX to us-lyards should, why the EU withdrawn from circulation the notes of 500, 1000 and 5000 euros (it was more compact), why yachts "businessmenof" dive into our ports, and then parked near Nice, chumadans of selected Argentinean "cement", a dry cargo ship arrested in a European port with tons of distinctive packaging with the bear logo, etc., etc.
                        One thing I can say for sure, there was no nastier time in Russia.
                        PySy. There is a forum member who worked in the apeshka, so he knows even better than history. fellow
                      15. 0
                        20 September 2021 17: 11
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        Everything that the layman sees is a popular print and antics for the plebs, including patriotism, speeches from the screen

                        For this, the counter-revolution of 1991 was arranged, but for this, the person was first let down that he needed this counter-revolution.
                      16. +4
                        20 September 2021 18: 37
                        Quote: Stroporez
                        One thing I can say for sure, there was no nastier time in Russia.

                        For me, the whole horror is that I do not see from the word any power at all that could lead the country out of this swamp.
                      17. +3
                        20 September 2021 18: 48
                        Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                        For me, the whole horror is that I do not see from the word any power at all that could lead the country out of this swamp.

                        Comrade, I can see this from your comments and for all my optimism, the situation is really very sad, but let's hold our tail with a pistol, nothing is eternal, and even more so today, who initially know that they are temporary workers.
                        I can say with confidence that these elections will still come back to haunt the inhabitants with new "pleasant" laws.
              2. +2
                20 September 2021 09: 40
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                this is already a diagnosis.

                Chronic illness ...
          3. -4
            20 September 2021 09: 00
            Quote: syndicalist
            And I do not know a single person who would really believe that something can be changed during the elections.

            Rightly said.
            1. +3
              20 September 2021 09: 19
              I know many people who believe that something can be changed during the elections. Like: "Now all the elections are rigged. But if you make fair elections, good people will come to power and will do everything for us." Like the Ukrainians during the Maidan period. These are children of fair age who have changed their faith in Santa Claus for faith in the Euroassociation.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 09: 53
                Quote: Roma-1977
                I know many people who believe that something can be changed during the elections.

                You should always remember who and why invented the elections.
                1. 0
                  20 September 2021 15: 17
                  Quote: tihonmarine
                  You should always remember who and why invented the elections.

              2. +1
                20 September 2021 17: 04
                Quote: Roma-1977
                But if we make fair elections, good people will come to power and will do everything for us. "

                People still think that .....
                Suddenly a magician will arrive In a blue helicopter
                And it will show movies for free.
                Happy birthday, congratulate And, probably, leave
                I got a five hundred popsicle as a gift.
            2. +4
              20 September 2021 10: 45
              Nonsense! For example, I believe. At 14. year we all voted as one for one idea in the elections. And as they voted, it happened.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 17: 48
                So it is in Gurzuf. It's warm there.
        2. +1
          20 September 2021 08: 23
          Here it is still necessary to carry out an educational program, let the Communist Party of the Russian Federation according to party lists 51% this will give them 113 to the Duma, urya! And for 225 single-mandate candidates, the EP takes 80% and this is 180 seats. And who is closer to the majority of 226 mandates. My personal opinion, all other parties are fighting for party lists in order to somehow get into the Duma. There are six real competitors. from 10 to infinity of candidates. Lost was eliminated and no one will remember about you in a week.
        3. +5
          20 September 2021 08: 23
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          Moscow got drunk, they don't want to work, but they want to live like in Europe.

          Say thanks to Putin, who remembers the old adage: "Revolutions are committed in capitals, only riots in provinces"
          1. -8
            20 September 2021 09: 08
            What does Putin have to do with it ?! The capital in any country always lives better than the province, simply by the fact that it is usually the economic center of the country.

            In Russia, the richer people are, the more they are dissatisfied with everything, the fashion is something like that.
            1. +3
              20 September 2021 17: 23
              Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
              The capital in any country always lives better than the province, simply by the fact that it is usually the economic center of the country.

              Not true!!! Washington is a small town relative to New York, life in Paris and Toulouse is no different, take and compare Berlin and Hamburg !!!
              There is no such disproportion, when the capital of the Russian Federation is almost a European city, and the province is stuck in the century before last, nowhere else in the world !!!
              1. -1
                20 September 2021 18: 55
                Quote: Stroporez
                take and compare Berlin and Hamburg !!!
                Such a disparity, when the capital of the Russian Federation is almost a European city, and the province is stuck in the century before last

                Comparing two megacities, and then a capital and a village?
                1. +2
                  20 September 2021 19: 00
                  Quote: Dart2027
                  Comparing two megacities, and then a capital and a village?

                  Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
                  What does Putin have to do with it ?! The capital in any country always lives better than the province, simply by the fact that it is usually the economic center of the country.
                  1. 0
                    20 September 2021 21: 43
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    What does Putin have to do with it ?! The capital in any country always lives better than the province, simply by the fact that it is usually the economic center of the country.

                    AND? Do you want to say that in some ordinary German village there is more money and conveniences than in Berlin?
          2. +8
            20 September 2021 09: 59
            I like this accusation of all Muscovites in the troubles of the province. People do not want to look and see the real causes of problems. And the problem is in our tight capitalism, which is always built on exploitation and unfair distribution of the results of labor. And the fact that the capital throws the provinces less crumbs from their table is not the fault of ordinary Muscovites. Blame the capital for this, which in the poverty of Muscovites sees a threat to themselves, but in poverty there is no province.
            1. +1
              20 September 2021 13: 17
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              I like this accusation of all Muscovites for the troubles of the province.

              Me too! Now, if Sobyanin would have improved their lives even more! Then there wouldn't be
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Problems with critical mass in society.
            2. -1
              20 September 2021 17: 01
              Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
              I like this accusation of all Muscovites in the troubles of the province. People do not want to look and see the real causes of problems.

              This is how a person is arranged, he believes that all troubles are from someone, and he himself is not to blame for these troubles.
          3. -1
            20 September 2021 10: 38
            "Revolutions are made in capitals, in provinces only riots"

            There is also a downside - a revolution that is not supported by the provinces cannot win. One capital does not channel against the rest of the country ...
        4. +18
          20 September 2021 08: 35
          Ratmir_Ryazan
          I do not know a single person who would vote for the communists who destroyed the USSR or for the nationalists from the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia or populists from the SR, the majority voted for United Russia, for maintaining the current course of development of the country.

          He himself voted against "United Russia", but in his family he was in the minority. winked The position of the others who voted for "United Russia" was explained to me by a very distant relative who had reached the pre-retirement age. To my question: "Why?" he answered shortly - "stability". I told him "pension reform!"
          If we remove all unnecessary things from the conversation and summarize, then they told me the following: “Remember Yeltsin and the freedom that we drank in the 90s. Now Putin is trying to drive this wild capitalism into a stall, but he succeeds with difficulty. a more or less stable state of a country that owes nothing to anyone in the world and is trying to achieve something inside. He is a strong player, but he is also played against by a not frail team trying to preserve the consequences of "wild privatization."

          We see only what we want to see, or what the media space presents to us.

          People, I drove to work, so I may not respond to your comment if it follows. Sorry! hi
          1. +2
            20 September 2021 09: 01
            It's good that at least the old people have a normal thought process in their heads, and not just youthful maximalism and Wishlist.
          2. +7
            20 September 2021 09: 10
            Hi Volodya! hi
            Quote: major071
            Why? "He answered shortly -" stability "

            Yes, my mother is from the same cohort. She has one source of information in the village - the TV. So what to expect from such people? It took several months of explanatory work to open my eyes.
            But middle-aged people are all against the EP.
            1. -7
              20 September 2021 09: 31
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Yes, my mother is from the same cohort.

              Smart woman (absolutely serious).
              1. +8
                20 September 2021 09: 33
                Quote: Dart2027
                Smart woman (absolutely serious).

                You call all people smart who have only one source of information? Isn't that why churches in our country are built faster than schools? wink
                1. -8
                  20 September 2021 09: 49
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  You call all people smart who have only one source of information?

                  That is, the main amount? Are Solzhenitsyn, Rezun, Navalny included in this list?
                  1. 0
                    20 September 2021 11: 40
                    Quote: Dart2027
                    Are Solzhenitsyn, Rezun, Navalny included in this list?

                    Everyone has their own idols.
                    1. +1
                      20 September 2021 13: 14
                      Quote: tihonmarine
                      Everyone has their own idols.

                      And it's not even about idols, Vlad. The same Rezun and Solzhenitsyn have the right things, the question is in relation. We are often stigmatized for the coincidence of individual thoughts in particular.
                      With the same success, the Indian Vedas can be declared fascist literature for the propaganda of the swastika.
                2. 0
                  20 September 2021 09: 51
                  Quote: Ingvar 72
                  do we have churches in the country built faster than schools?

                  And churches often have schools ... Orthodox.
                  1. +2
                    20 September 2021 09: 53
                    Isolated cases. In addition, training there is not cheap, my daughter studied with a coach there.
                    1. +3
                      20 September 2021 10: 01
                      Alas, not isolated. And study there is free. But there is not just a school, but a different world that has nothing to do with the secular outside the window.
                      The old school (a large three-story building), after the construction of a new one, was supposed to become an elementary one. Thus, they tried to solve the problem of the second shift. As a result: the old school was given to the Russian Orthodox Church for some reason, and in the new one the children study in two shifts ...
                      1. +3
                        20 September 2021 10: 05
                        Quote: Doccor18
                        And study there is free.

                        Orthodox gymnasium in the Avtozavodsky district of Togliatti. Over 7 thousand rubles per month.
                      2. 0
                        20 September 2021 14: 16
                        School 115 in Chelyabinsk - general education - 9tr for meals with extended
                      3. 0
                        20 September 2021 14: 18
                        Quote: datura23
                        9tr for meals with extended

                        Don't fucking yourself! belay
                        I have three ...
                      4. 0
                        20 September 2021 14: 20
                        the most common expenses in Chelyabinsk, no show-off
            2. +4
              20 September 2021 10: 46
              Quote: Ingvar 72
              Hi Volodya! hi
              Quote: major071
              Why? "He answered shortly -" stability "

              Yes, my mother is from the same cohort. She has one source of information in the village - the TV. So what to expect from such people? It took several months of explanatory work to open my eyes.
              But middle-aged people are all against the EP.

              Come on? Do not subscribe for everyone stop
            3. +2
              20 September 2021 12: 25
              Ingvar 72 (Igor)
              But middle-aged people are all against the EP


              Hi Igor, we haven't communicated for a long time hi To some extent, you are right, as my wife said, "the people are full." She, when we were going to vote, said the following phrase: "I don't care for anyone, but not for the United Russia Party, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party and just Russia, they got drunk, su.i." But, on the other hand, the majority of the people directly "drowned" for "United Russia", since they did not see an alternative. Let it be somehow, but stability. drinks
              1. +2
                20 September 2021 14: 23
                Quote: major071
                Let it be somehow, but stability.

                Everything would be fine, but stability is only in terms of degradation., Volodya.
                PS Something you haven't been verbalizing for a long time. Doesn't the muse come to visit? wink
                Is it sadness? Roll up and you! good drinks
          3. +6
            20 September 2021 09: 41
            Quote: major071
            Now Putin is trying to drive this wild capitalism into a stall, but he succeeds with a creak.

            Yes, we have to wait another 30 years. And there or padishah or donkey. And then in the end, well, let's say we drive him this most wild capitalism, if it works out. And there are serious doubts about this. Do you understand that in this case we will get the same situation as the USA and Europe? Where, with relative prosperity, on average, there are still large distortions in the incomes of the population and a disgusting demographic situation, plus a gradual increase in labor productivity leads to unemployment. Do you really want to see the bright future that the supporters of correct capitalism paint? No illusions about how patriots and liberals are one and the same thing. They are drowning for the system that is now in the United States and Europe.
          4. for
            +5
            20 September 2021 10: 46
            Quote: major071
            Now Putin is trying to drive this wild capitalism into a stall, but he succeeds with a creak

            I would like to have driven.
        5. -5
          20 September 2021 09: 01
          Moscow was "led" to a "fresh political idea" like UG (owned by a leather company). Moscow is generally "advanced". Conducted on everything that reads on the network. Well, and even more so she "feeds all of Russia", she is directly supposed to ...
        6. +2
          20 September 2021 09: 04
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

          Moscow got drunk, they don't want to work, but they want to live like in Europe

          In Moscow, they work a little more than in the regions, in order to live decently, personally my wife and I have to work 14 or more hours, but in the regions it is often in the order of things to get up later and work from call to call. I personally observe this, however, for the sake of interest, look when traffic jams begin in Moscow, at 6-30 everything is already worth it.
          1. +1
            20 September 2021 10: 00
            Quote: lis-ik
            More work is being done in Moscow than in the regions
            yes, maybe they plow, that's just plow into their content. What is there in Moscow other than traders and officials? NOTHING. ZIL, AZLK, 1GPZ, Krasny Proletary ....... the list of which the country has lost is very large. And what did you get? A bunch of offices with bored plankton, who out of boredom makes paper catapults and shoots gummy bears out of them.
            1. +2
              20 September 2021 13: 23
              Quote: ZAV69
              ZIL, AZLK, 1GPZ, Krasny Proletary ....... the list of which the country has lost is very large. And what did you get? A bunch of offices with bored plankton

              Tell me, did ALL Muscovites do this? You are even the mayor of Moscow from the tundra, and the deputy Liksutov is from Estonia.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 20: 49
                Quote: Overlock
                Tell me, did ALL Muscovites do this? You are even the mayor of Moscow from the tundra, and the deputy Liksutov is from Estonia.

                My compatriot Likhachev (not a Muscovite) headed ZIL all his life, and the native Muscovites Popov and Luzhkov killed him.
          2. -2
            20 September 2021 10: 56
            Quote: lis-ik
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

            Moscow got drunk, they don't want to work, but they want to live like in Europe

            In Moscow, they work a little more than in the regions, in order to live decently, personally my wife and I have to work 14 or more hours, but in the regions it is often in the order of things to get up later and work from call to call. I personally observe this, however, for the sake of interest, look when traffic jams begin in Moscow, at 6-30 everything is already worth it.

            You are there, take care of yourself, do not overwork!
        7. +6
          20 September 2021 09: 23
          Moscow got drunk, they don't want to work, but they want to live like in Europe.
          what is real? Straight ALL Moscow zazhralis? Those. (apparently) every Muscovite has a bank account, on which a percentage of the taxes of the whole country drips, and for this percentage anyone who lives in Moscow can not work and not deny himself anything? good It's a pity we don't have this in St. Petersburg. We have to plow (last month generally for 9 hours and on weekends for 5-7 hours)
          1. +3
            20 September 2021 13: 25
            Quote: Region-25.rus
            Straight ALL Moscow zazhralis? Those. (apparently) every Muscovite has a bank account, on which a percentage of the taxes of the whole country drips, and for this percentage anyone who lives in Moscow can not work and not deny himself anything?

            Wrong! In addition, EVERYONE who comes to Moscow at the station is immediately given a million of our rubles in cash to raise their spirits and faith in life!
        8. +1
          20 September 2021 10: 49
          Current negative growth?
      3. +3
        20 September 2021 08: 09
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        LDPR is a branch of United Russia, like New People. The Communist Party was allowed to take second place in order to reduce the tension in society.

        Strange, until recently all parties in the State Duma were affiliates of the United Russia Party and created only the appearance of a choice. And now the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has abruptly dropped out of there, it is even interesting to observe.
        PS I do not know of a single person who voted for the United Russia party, neither colleagues at work, nor neighbors, nor friends and acquaintances. All voted for the Communist Party or the SR.

        Authoritative source. And in general, no one votes for them, they only draw votes. And so long ago communism would reign again, obviously.
        Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.

        They said that the United Russia Party can draw any percentage for itself and there is no point in going to the polls. And now it turns out they have cheated votes with the help of stuffing, carousels and substitution of ballots. It would seem that you hold crystal clear elections and draw any result, but there is still no need to throw it in.
        I am seriously trying to understand your logic, and this is apparently not available to me.
        1. -19
          20 September 2021 08: 15
          Quote: Cron
          I'm seriously trying to understand your logic, about me it is apparently not available

          Thinking logically is too difficult for them, you have to think about it!
          1. +3
            20 September 2021 08: 25
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            Thinking logically is too difficult for them, you have to think about it!

            Straight Aristotle laughing
          2. +3
            20 September 2021 09: 24
            Quote: Kot_Kuzya
            Thinking logically is too difficult for them.

            The main thing is that everything is fine with your logic. You are our salt of the earth! There would be more of them!
        2. -4
          20 September 2021 08: 17
          Quote: Cron
          I'm seriously trying to understand your logic, about me it is apparently not available

          Similarly.
        3. -1
          20 September 2021 09: 04
          Quote: Cron
          I am seriously trying to understand your logic, and it is apparently not available to me

          Don't try - this is the local Zhenya Psaki, here everything is specified in the office. Yes laughing hi
        4. -2
          20 September 2021 09: 15
          They said that the United Russia Party can draw any percentage for itself and there is no point in going to the polls. And now it turns out they have cheated votes with the help of stuffing, carousels and substitution of ballots.

          They can draw, but they are not suicidal. Draw 70 will be a new "swamp", and the majority is, okay.
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 09: 21
            Quote: maksbazhin
            They can draw, but they are not suicidal. Draw 70 will be a new "swamp", and the majority is, okay.

            Swamp - is it when some comrades sent everyone home, and they themselves went to rest? Such a threat to myself
          2. -2
            20 September 2021 09: 32
            Quote: maksbazhin
            there will be a new "swamp"

            And in any case they will try to organize it. I look forward to the emergence of new "shezhezhina".
      4. +2
        20 September 2021 08: 12
        It is surprising that in the "land that is paradise" many of those I know voted for the communists, but there are also plenty of those who did not go. Is it from there that the legs grow at 65% of the EP?
      5. +12
        20 September 2021 08: 15
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        LDPR is a branch of United Russia, like New People.

        New people and SWs are the same as EP. These are party spoilers of the right and left. EU take off will always have more than 50% of the votes.

        It's amazing how quickly, outright, a hitherto unknown party easily gains 5-6% of the vote! New people were invented literally last year. And it was also believed that the right-wing parties in Russia are absolutely unpopular. No matter how it is! If the party is organized by the government itself, it will be a popular party - in any case.
        1. 0
          20 September 2021 08: 46
          Quote: Stas157
          New people were invented literally last year.

          The Kremlin invented new people as liberals free from Western influence,
          - there is such a demand in society.
          1. +7
            20 September 2021 09: 22
            Not at all. There is a request in society to send liberals to the Kolyma, but the authorities are reducing the intensity of this request by creating spoilers - "good liberals".
            1. 0
              20 September 2021 09: 59
              Quote: Roma-1977
              There is a request in society to send liberals to the Kolyma

              Western liberals are sent to the Kolyma - Navalny,
              creates
              Quote: Roma-1977
              "good liberals".
              their own, and immediately to the Duma,
              - what is wrong.
        2. +2
          20 September 2021 15: 47
          Quote: Stas157
          New people and SRs are the same as EP.

          An ex-member of a gang is running for the Duma. Righteous ...
          Deputy candidate Magomed Khairulaev, previously convicted for participation in an illegal armed formation, is elected to the Duma of the Bolshesosnovsky District of the Perm Territory

          According to the election commission, Khairulaev was convicted in 2000 under Part 2 of Article 208 of the Criminal Code of the Russian Federation "Organization of an illegal armed formation or participation in it",

          https://ria.ru/20210915/duma-1750239694.html
      6. -6
        20 September 2021 08: 15
        And I don’t vote in principle) who didn’t go to the polls ?! There are such?
        1. -1
          20 September 2021 08: 24
          I have not attended them since 1996, considering it a useless waste of my time and government money! hi I see some kind of new political force "New People" overcomes the 3% barrier, which means it gets the right to the state. funding, sticking to the budget and immediately turning into the party "Svoi lyudi" laughing
          1. Cat
            -2
            20 September 2021 09: 03
            And I do not go even more - since 1987, because in principle I consider the electoral system to be a method of divorcing the population for their own money. Election makes sense on the scale of the house committee or garden association, at most - in a small town, when everyone knows everyone. But on the scale of a huge country - no.
        2. +2
          20 September 2021 09: 06
          I don’t go, it’s a waste of time and nerves. None of the crooks will voluntarily surrender power.
      7. 0
        20 September 2021 08: 22
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Quote: Kot_Kuzya
        It's good that now the United Russia does not have a majority of votes in the Duma,

        LDPR is a branch of United Russia, like New People. The Communist Party was allowed to take second place in order to reduce the tension in society.
        PS I do not know of a single person who voted for the United Russia party, neither colleagues at work, nor neighbors, nor friends and acquaintances. All voted for the Communist Party or the SR.
        Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.

        I voted for EP smile
        and a man with a large notebook stood on the street and asked: For whom did they vote?
        Like an exit poll. He put his wand in his table, according to the answer.
        I answered. And he asked in the opposite direction: Who is in the lead according to your survey? Can you roughly say?
        He replied: United Russia is far ahead of ...
        It was yesterday at 16.30 Moscow time.
        Such cases smile

        So I don't really believe in kaments like: Neither I ... nor mine ... nor my acquaintances ... voted ... nowhere ... never ... for nothing ...
        1. +7
          20 September 2021 08: 32
          Quote: den3080
          He replied: United Russia is far ahead of ...

          What city?
          PS I am ready to make a bet. We walk with you along the street of my city (Togliatti), with the camera turned on, and interrogate everyone we meet. If the EP wins, I will pay for your travel, room and board (alcohol including bully )
          P. P. S Of my acquaintances and neighbors, about half were shy.
          1. -3
            20 September 2021 08: 39
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Quote: den3080
            He replied: United Russia is far ahead of ...

            What city?
            PS I am ready to make a bet. We walk with you along the street of my city (Togliatti), with the camera turned on, and interrogate everyone we meet. If the EP wins, I will pay for your travel, room and board (alcohol including bully )
            P. P. S Of my acquaintances and neighbors, about half were shy.

            Lappeenranta. Finland.
            1. +17
              20 September 2021 09: 01
              Quote: den3080
              Lappeenranta. Finland.

              Foreign agents for Putin's party - I was never even surprised. laughing Dual citizenship of homegrown cosmopolitans and crooks is the bond of Putinism. winked
              ps voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation because of a burning desire to somehow kick the hated bucket, there were simply no other worthy leftists.
              1. -5
                20 September 2021 09: 22
                Quote: Pilot
                Quote: den3080
                Lappeenranta. Finland.

                Foreign agents for Putin's party - I was never even surprised. laughing Dual citizenship of homegrown cosmopolitans and crooks is the bond of Putinism. winked
                ps voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation because of a burning desire to somehow kick the hated bucket, there were simply no other worthy leftists.

                laughing
                It's clear. You didn't even surprise me.
                You better deal with the tricks of Mr. Zyuganov and his associates "in dusty helmets" with the structures financing and supporting the Berlin patient smile how much is there ?? at least 4 reconnaissance ...?
                And Mr. Bondarenko is a loyal communist about Crimea. How? Bandera invited him (esi cho) to 404. Welkam.

                When I see and especially hear Zyuga, I start to feel nauseous.
                For I knew, at the time of it, a couple of such functionaries (CPSU), with a higher rank than Zyuganov in those days and according to that table of ranks in the party nomenclature.
                Lies on lies and lies drive. And they themselves do not believe in what they say.
                Good luck!
                1. +5
                  20 September 2021 09: 56
                  Quote: den3080

                  Lies on lies and lies drives. And they themselves do not believe in what they say.
                  Good luck!

                  What's wrong with the video? That's right Zyuganov said!

                  Quote: den3080
                  how much is there ?? how minimum 4 reconnaissance…?

                  You name it a little - ten! If this is true, as other propagandists are whistling on Kisel-TV, then let them be punished by the court, not the whistle. Otherwise, it's just blah blah blah for naive simpletons.
                  1. -2
                    20 September 2021 10: 35
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Quote: den3080

                    Lies on lies and lies drives. And they themselves do not believe in what they say.
                    Good luck!

                    What's wrong with the video? That's right Zyuganov said!

                    Quote: den3080
                    how much is there ?? how minimum 4 reconnaissance…?

                    You name it a little - ten! If this is true, as other propagandists are whistling on Kisel-TV, then let them be punished by the court, not the whistle. Otherwise, it's just blah blah blah for naive simpletons.

                    Yes, you will decide on Comrade Zyuganov or how many intelligence agencies prepared "this priest Gapon" (from the freshest Zyuganov laughing ) or do you like it and everything is a bunch?
                    And also: whose Crimea ?. smile
                    And this ... ZAO "State Farm named after Lenin" how is it? With the beard of offshore companies (Belize, Panama, what else?)
                    It is difficult to think of more cynicism.

                    And in what dust or pollen are the helmets of some "comrades" now ... should be checked smile ... from what kind of roads or paths ... in the modern way, so to speak?

                    With the first communist Jesus Christ - a complete confusion turns out.
                    A farce comedy with elements of a horror movie ... not the Communist Party.
                    1. +4
                      20 September 2021 10: 41
                      Quote: den3080
                      whose Crimea?

                      What a moronic (you can't say otherwise) question? Is that a voice from Square?)) It seems like, except for pots, this question no longer interests anyone!
                      1. 0
                        20 September 2021 10: 46
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Quote: den3080
                        whose Crimea?

                        What a moronic question? Is that a voice from Square?)) It seems like, except for pots, this question no longer interests anyone!

                        It was Mr. Bondarenko (a strong young communist) who answered the journalist not so long ago to the question: So whose is Crimea?
                        Answer: Do you want me to answer that Crimea is Russian?
                        I won't answer you like that !!
                        And after that I got a "welcom" from 404, almost instantly.
                        Search for yourself, please.
                      2. 0
                        20 September 2021 10: 51
                        Quote: den3080
                        I am to you so I will not answer!!

                        So this is an escape from a moronic question - nothing more. Where did you dream that Bondarenko Crimea Ukrainian counts? This can only be seen by those who like to pull the owl on the globe. Because in their hearts they really want to tarnish the good name of a communist!
                      3. -3
                        20 September 2021 11: 48
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Where did you dream that Bondarenko considers Crimea Ukrainian?

                        Whose then?
                      4. +4
                        20 September 2021 12: 10
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Whose then?

                        If you don't want stupid answers, stop asking stupid questions.
                      5. +2
                        20 September 2021 12: 14
                        Quote: Dart2027
                        Whose then?

                        Are you guessing ??

                        I fucking sometimes with members of the forum! Sometimes they freeze this ... even stand, even fall.
                      6. -5
                        20 September 2021 13: 25
                        Quote: Stas157
                        Are you guessing ??

                        I am not, but the Communists are.
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              2. +2
                20 September 2021 11: 47
                Quote: Pilot
                Foreign agents for Putin's party - I was never even surprised.

                Familiar citizens of Russia, ethnic Pakistanis and Afghans, are all supporters of the United Russia.
      8. +5
        20 September 2021 08: 36
        Did they show you the ballot or only verbally spoke for whom they voted for? It's like they say different things
      9. bar
        0
        20 September 2021 08: 41
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        The Communist Party was allowed to take second place in order to reduce the tension in society.

        And the "new people" were given the votes of the spravoorussians in order to reduce the heat in the future Duma.
      10. +1
        20 September 2021 09: 33
        The Communist Party of the Russian Federation is bypassing the "United Russia"

        Touched by the word -POKA. Yes
      11. +2
        20 September 2021 10: 37
        Type CP is not a branch of the EP? Like Sochi, Nizhny Novgorod are not zenith farm clubs.
      12. -4
        20 September 2021 10: 37
        the Bolsheviks will take power and a new life will come!
      13. -3
        20 September 2021 10: 37
        I don't know a single person who voted for the EP,

        I voted for the EP. Now you know one person. If you have such a social circle, then accordingly you do not know other people and other opinions. Well, to vote for Zyuganov's CPSU is such a "victory".
        1. +4
          20 September 2021 12: 13
          Quote: Stepan S
          I voted for the EP.

          Nobody doubted. Did you forget to send a photo of the form with a checkmark to the curator? wink
          There are not many of you here, zaputintsy, who justify absolutely all decisions of the authorities. All of you have long been predictable.
          1. -1
            20 September 2021 18: 21
            There are not many of you here, zaputintsy,

            Do you judge by your cell in a single communal apartment? And where is your curator now?
      14. +4
        20 September 2021 10: 56
        quite right, out of 14 people, my acquaintances, only 1 voted for edro, and this is taking into account the frank bribery of voters,
        and how many violations and stuffing, and how many shameful shots as the army voted --- some kind of North Korea !!!
      15. -4
        20 September 2021 15: 40
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.

        And you can guess who is engaged in the substitution of ballots, carousels and filming, or suggest, this is all done in order to slander the elections, there have already been many videos with the arrests of such provocateurs. I am sure that the security forces will get to everyone.
        1. +2
          20 September 2021 15: 44
          Quote: Achilles
          And you yourself will guess who is engaged in the substitution of ballots, carousels and filming,

          Tell me who are these scoundrels ???
          1. -1
            20 September 2021 16: 35
            Quote: Stroporez
            Tell me who are these scoundrels ???

            From among the FBK, Navalnyat, Yablochniki were noticed and detained, supporters of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation were also detained.
            You are one of those who have noodles, you are a believer in the Communist Party, and the Communist Party is the same as everywhere else, even in something worse, there half of the Communist Party is supported by Navalny and smart voting, Roskomnadzor has installed American IP addresses, servers from which technical support for "smart voting".
            The developers of the smart voting application are companies associated not only with the United States, but with the Pentagon. These will also sell their homeland when the time is up. But it's good that not everyone is like you with noodles on their ears.
            1. +3
              20 September 2021 16: 38
              Quote: Achilles
              From among the FBK, Navalnyat, Yablochniki were noticed and detained, supporters of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation were also detained.
              You are one of those who have noodles, you are a believer in the Communist Party, and the Communist Party is the same as everywhere else, even in something worse, there half of the Communist Party is supported by Navalny and smart voting, Roskomnadzor has installed American IP addresses, servers from which technical support for "smart voting".
              The developers of the smart voting application are companies associated not only with the United States, but with the Pentagon. These will also sell their homeland when the time is up. But it's good that not everyone is like you with noodles on their ears.

              Tell me, where did you get so much useful information from?
              1. -2
                20 September 2021 16: 44
                Quote: Stroporez
                Tell me, where did you get so much useful information from?

                Telegram channels RIA Novosti, RT, MIKHEEV, SOLOVIEV, Karnaukhov, Committee for the Protection of National Interests.
                1. +2
                  20 September 2021 17: 06
                  Quote: Achilles
                  Telegram channels RIA Novosti, RT, MIKHEEV, SOLOVIEV, Karnaukhov, Committee for the Protection of National Interests.

                  I got it, ATP! I can imagine what's in your head wassat
                  1. -2
                    20 September 2021 18: 57
                    Quote: Stroporez
                    I imagine what's in your head

                    And who are your sources?
                    1. +1
                      20 September 2021 18: 59
                      Quote: Dart2027
                      And who are your sources?

                      IN and YOU! laughing
                      1. 0
                        20 September 2021 21: 40
                        That is, there will be no clear answer?
      16. -1
        20 September 2021 16: 30
        Videos with stuffing, carousels and substitution of bilutes are full on YouTube.

        And also there are videos showing how they were fabricated.
        1. -1
          20 September 2021 16: 52
          Quote: alch3mist
          And also there are videos showing how they were fabricated.

          Yes. there is a video of how they were fabricated and there are investigations of almost every such video.
      17. 0
        20 September 2021 21: 07
        P. S. I do not know a single person who voted for the EP
        Well, here we are. Now you will know.
        Yes, I voted for the EP. Not under duress, but as a free person.
        There are many complaints about the EP. But I don't care. Because against the background of the developing planetary catastrophe, the horses on the crossing are not changed.
        PS there are already vertical links and each "official" is shaking at his bush.
        1. +1
          20 September 2021 21: 23
          Quote: Gnefredov
          horses in the crossing do not change.

          In your opinion, will it cling to the corpse of a horse in the seething water, is this an adequate solution? belay
          PS Today my wife met this one - my grandmother is over 70 years old. The argument is that there will be no such pensions as under Putin! laughing With mathematics in old age, grandmother is in trouble!
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 21: 42
            Do not distort, please.
            The corpse of a horse.
            Outlived Khrushchev, Brezhnev. Tagged and drunk t var. I'll get over you - definitely.
            We have only one Russia. We will survive the seething waters (as you said above).
            Think big, planetary.
            Calculate the length of the borders of Russia, estimate the "conditional money" for the protection of these borders. Yoknayutsya finally with the understanding that we will not protect - they will gnaw off.
            Well, if you don't have an Imperial mindset, then "this is your mouse business." Hang out at night and shit on the internet. Your right.
            1. 0
              20 September 2021 23: 23
              Quote: Gnefredov
              I'll get over you - definitely.

              It is possible. But not a fact.
              Quote: Gnefredov
              We have only one Russia.

              Who has "us"? The oligarchs and those in power do not identify themselves with the bulk of the people. Even during the period of exacerbation of foreign policy relations, they continue to invest the PEF in US government bonds, buy real estate in countries of potential adversaries. At a time when unemployment is on the rise in the country, top officials of the state declare that the economy will not be able to live without migrants. Even against the backdrop of a pandemic, the budget for medicine is decreasing.
              All these actions of the authorities are against the interests of the people. With whom you are, and for whom, decide.
              P.S. Every year, Putin lays flowers on the grave of a drunken man. wink Think about it, and then tryndite border protection.
              1. +1
                20 September 2021 23: 53
                I understand your rage, and the semi-Hamam dialogue, too.
                Don't poke me around. You will live with mine, you will understand why I answer you so condescendingly.
                ----
                Hack it on your nose, dear.
                Any change of power, this is Kabzdets.
                Categorically, any man - "if he is not finished ..." - will fight for his family. And yes, for all who are associated with him.
                You have to be crazy to want some fucking change. Irresponsible. Impudent and endlessly stupid.

                Sit down and think. About the Chinese curse: "So that you live in an age of change."
                ---
                Nightmare. Nauseous of the irresponsibility of individuals.
                1. +1
                  21 September 2021 06: 28
                  Quote: Gnefredov
                  and a semi-Hamam dialogue, too.

                  Come on? Do you mean the word "tryndite"? What about your advice before that?
                  Quote: Gnefredov
                  Well, if you don't have an Imperial mindset, then "this is your mouse business." Hang out at night and shit on the internet.

                  Yours doesn't smell, does it? wink
                  Quote: Gnefredov
                  Don't poke me around.

                  Does your vision fail? I visit you everywhere.
                  Quote: Gnefredov
                  You have to be crazy to want some fucking change. Irresponsible. Impudent and endlessly stupid.

                  You have to be a traitor to your country, grandfathers, fathers, children and grandchildren, in order to want to silently watch how they finish off and plunder the country for which the grandfathers shed their blood, and in which children and grandchildren will have to live.
                  1. 0
                    24 September 2021 03: 27
                    Ingvar. I really respect your opinion. You don't see me as a rival. You are all right.
                    (I stand by my opinion, of course).
                    1. 0
                      24 September 2021 06: 34
                      Quote: Gnefredov
                      I stand by my opinion, of course

                      The right of every person. hi
    2. +8
      20 September 2021 07: 52
      Single-mandate districts have been forgotten, with them the United Russia’s seats in the Duma are well over 225, we have a cunning system.
    3. -7
      20 September 2021 07: 59
      Uncle Ziu from the podium (pictured): "My limousine is flying forward ..." I think Sobyanin will get a hat! Cheat on his 13th salary this year laughing
      1. +5
        20 September 2021 08: 15
        Quote: Finches
        I think Sobyanin will get a hat! Cheating on his 13th salary this year

        It's high time ... otherwise they took the fashion to change the chippers and bardyurs for no reason laughing
        1. 0
          20 September 2021 08: 26
          Quote: Canecat
          otherwise they took the fashion to change the chippers and bardyurs for no reason

          Everything has a secret meaning request
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 10: 54
            Quote: Silvestr
            Everything has a secret meaning

            The whole point is in the fraudulent organizations. )))
      2. +2
        20 September 2021 08: 27
        Him and one 1st is enough .. Schaub I lived like that))
        I think he won't notice the absence of the 13th
      3. 0
        20 September 2021 08: 43
        Let him be sent to where they dragged him from
      4. 0
        20 September 2021 10: 38
        Sobyanin will get a hat!

        Muscovites always did not know what they wanted, so they vote as if out of step)
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 01: 28
          "Muscovites" yes we are left ... Two boots and a crotch.
          Muscovites. They dumped EVERYTHING. Even the most correct ones.
          Uncle Gilyay in a nightmare could not imagine the horror that is now happening in Maskvobad (tear / want to).
          --
          Therefore, when you kick at Moscow, look back at yourself
    4. +4
      20 September 2021 08: 26
      After counting 70% of the protocols in single-mandate constituencies, "United Russia" is gaining 196 seats in the State Duma. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has received 14 mandates so far, A Just Russia - Patriots - For Truth - 7, LDPR - 1, Rodina - 1, Yabloko - 1, from Civil Platform - 1, Party of Growth - 1. More 3 places for self-nominated candidates.

      Here is a present for you .. EP will not have to negotiate with anyone in such situations. Although - I don’t believe in life that almost all of their single-mandate type passed !! Gives some kind of golimy bullshit ..
      1. 0
        20 September 2021 11: 28
        So what? A bunch of candidates were nominated, instead of supporting the strongest opponent of the United Russia. Indeed, in most districts, the winners received 20-40%. We have a system of elections with a relative majority by districts. The main thing is to come out on top.
      2. 0
        20 September 2021 15: 45
        Quote: paul3390
        Here is a present for you .. EP will not have to negotiate with anyone in such situations. Although - I don’t believe in life that almost all of their single-mandate type passed !! Gives some kind of golimy bullshit ..

        The Belarusians did not like this garbage.
    5. bar
      0
      20 September 2021 09: 18
      The United Russia still has + the Liberal Democratic Party + "new people". And the Communist Party of the Russian Federation never deviated from the "general line" during the voting. The only ones who sometimes raised their tail there are Spravorassi. But their voices were skillfully diluted with a newly formed pro-government chortik from a snuffbox.
      1. +2
        20 September 2021 09: 43
        Quote: bar
        The only ones who sometimes raised their tail there are Spravorassi.

        The only ones who voted against the pension reform were the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. wink
        1. bar
          +1
          20 September 2021 09: 51
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          The only ones who voted against the pension reform were the Communist Party of the Russian Federation.

          Do not lie. 17 out of 23 spravoorussians voted against the reform, 6 were on business trips.
    6. +2
      20 September 2021 09: 57
      At my site where I vote, the EP has more than 50%. I am not against the EP in principle, but with your thesis that the thought needs to be diluted.
    7. +1
      20 September 2021 10: 33
      I would not be in a hurry with conclusions and results, the EP has already organized a party with jumps and screams of the Nashists, forgetting about the "deadly pandemic". This is no stranger to lying and betraying, they live like they breathe, all the structures of the state apparatus are saturated with lies and meanness, taking into account that the guarantor, guaranteeing only the irresponsibility and impunity of his entourage of dough and permissiveness of the environment, and the people of 2 square meters of land in property, and even then for a fee, does not prevent the nobility from imitating democracy in these territories, and no one is interested in your opinion.
    8. +1
      20 September 2021 11: 25
      Why is there no majority? There will be a majority, and even a constitutional one. Indeed, in the overwhelming majority of single-mandate constituencies, United Russia won. According to party lists, only half of the composition of the State Duma is elected.
    9. +1
      20 September 2021 13: 48
      This is why the EP does not have a majority? She has an overwhelming majority.
      The Duma has 450 seats. 225 for party lists, and 225 for single-mandate constituencies. 50 to 50.
      The EP won 194 out of 225 in single-mandate terms. Well, maybe something will change, but not much. Therefore, 194 out of 226 necessary for the majority are already in their pockets. And 45-50%, which will be taken on party lists, is still at least 100 (out of 225). Total 294 out of 450, almost 2/3 seats in the Duma, the overwhelming majority
      There are, as it were, 15 communist silver medalists on single-mandate plus 45 (20%) on the lists. 60 mandates. 5 times less;)
    10. 0
      20 September 2021 15: 34
      We must wait for the final results before building such versions. Do you think Pamfilova rejected the "set" task? Even if he cannot "cheat" as before, then no one has canceled any schemes for the coalition majority, and they (the authorities), be sure, will use the entire "available" arsenal to their advantage. Even a Perm shooter, no matter how wild it sounds, may turn out to be a kind of "distracting" maneuver ...
    11. 0
      20 September 2021 17: 27
      Agree with the devil - if the economy is not working, the active population is aging and money can only be taken from the super profits of oil and gas ...
    12. 0
      20 September 2021 21: 08
      how wrong you are, unfortunately
  2. +3
    20 September 2021 07: 33
    I came to work (at 12.00 Moscow time, at 7.00 local time), EdRa had 44%. Since then, with each update, the result has only grown. Now almost 48%. Not a single period of decline! It seems that the result is stretched to the required 51%. And strained, with a creak. Like an owl on a globe. The bird is in pain, she yells, but they pull her on. The bird will break, oh, it will break ...
    Incidentally, in the Khabkrai, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation won by party lists. If it were not for Zyuganov's games with the regional branch of the party, she could have won a single-mandate one. But alas, Uncle Ziu screwed up, as has happened more than once.
    1. -3
      20 September 2021 07: 42
      Checked by kovidobesiem, can be pulled further.
    2. +4
      20 September 2021 07: 53
      I voted it out!)
    3. +5
      20 September 2021 08: 00
      They do not need to stretch them according to party lists, they pulled everyone in single-mandate constituencies. 225 constituencies with one mandate and 225 seats in the Duma according to party lists. Don't say they have recognizable leaders anymore.
    4. +7
      20 September 2021 08: 14
      And the fact that when the counting proceeds from east to west, the support of the authorities always grows - do you know? Or just to throw more crap on the fan?
      1. -2
        20 September 2021 08: 19
        from east to west, support for the authorities always grows
        Seriously?! And can you confirm this with something, or take my word for it as a gentleman?
        1. +2
          20 September 2021 08: 28
          Quote: Dalny V
          Or should I take your word for it, as a gentleman?

          The gentleman doesn't use a word
          Quote: Putnik119
          shit
        2. +4
          20 September 2021 08: 31
          from east to west, support for the authorities always grows
          Seriously?! And can you confirm this with something, or take my word for it as a gentleman?
          And you look at the data for the previous elections. Always in the Far East, the percentage of protest against was higher than in the country. The same LDPR has a higher percentage than in the European part, but other parties that passed in the far part in the main part did not enter 5% in the country. There are many explanations, including the presence of state employees and servicemen to the Urals.
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 11: 35
            I do not quite agree about the state employees and employees. In the Far East, their share in relation to the entire population will be greater than in Central Russia.
      2. +1
        20 September 2021 08: 50
        Quote: Putnik119
        Or just to throw more crap on the fan?

        In the comments, bot farms are actively working.
    5. +1
      20 September 2021 08: 58
      Quote: Dalny V
      Uncle Ziu screwed up, as has happened more than once.

      It's not just that he has been sitting in the capital for so long ...
  3. +5
    20 September 2021 07: 33
    It would be more correct to speak not for whom I vote, but against whom. Everything else is secondary.
    1. +8
      20 September 2021 07: 41
      We thought the same at 96m. belay
    2. +1
      20 September 2021 07: 55
      Quote: betta
      It would be more correct to speak not for whom I vote, but against whom. Everything else is secondary

      They voted in the neighboring one extremely against the chocolate ... and what did they get in return? Not a bit better, if not worse, and even green ... and now, many are sick.
      Who will they vote against next time?
    3. -6
      20 September 2021 08: 12
      Quote: betta
      It would be more correct to speak not for whom I vote, but against whom. Everything else is secondary.

      Until recently, it was more correct for you not to go to the polls, because the authorities need a turnout, and they will cheat any result. It's funny to see where the shepherds are driving their flock this time
    4. 0
      20 September 2021 09: 01
      Quote: betta
      ... not for whom I vote, but against whom.

      This is the whole truth and the whole tragedy of the country's political life ...
  4. +15
    20 September 2021 07: 33
    An interesting alignment of forces in Moscow. Will the Communist Party take first place there? Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?

    We want very much. I even voted for them!
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 07: 58
      The question is ... and the present ones are like those who are the party of the Leader of the World Revolution? Are they Bolsheviks or not?
    2. -19
      20 September 2021 08: 06
      An interesting alignment of forces in Moscow. Will the Communist Party take first place there? Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?

      We want very much. I even voted for them!


      The communists have brought to poverty and the collapse of the USSR, do you want the same fate for Russia now?
      1. +16
        20 September 2021 08: 30
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        The communists have brought to poverty and the collapse of the USSR, do you want the same fate for Russia now?

        You still live at the expense of the Soviet Union, which was built by the entire Soviet people, including the communists. And for the indiscriminate mockery of the entire Soviet people, our simple -... well, understand
        1. -2
          20 September 2021 10: 43
          I repeat once again, for the "gifted" I blame the Communist Party for the poverty of my people and the collapse of my country !!!

          If these are trifles for you and you are ready to go through it again, but I do not wish it !!!

          The Communist Party, with its populism, the mediocrity of its leaders, led to the collapse of our country, and are you still ready to vote for them again ?! For what?! What do you think they will make you 35 dollars and lower the retirement age ?! )))

          Think a little with your head and be a responsible citizen !!!
      2. +6
        20 September 2021 09: 15
        The communists made China the leading economy in the world, do you definitely want the same fate for Russia?
        1. -4
          20 September 2021 09: 36
          Quote: Vladislav_2
          made China the world's leading economy

          In China, capitalism, and from communism one name.
        2. 0
          20 September 2021 10: 45
          So it was the Chinese communists who made China a great country, and the Russian communists destroyed theirs, and twice in 2 and 1917.

          If I lived in China, I would vote for the CPC, and in Russia I vote for United Russia, not because they are ideal and do not make mistakes and all members of this party are like one patriots, not because of this, but because in general Russia is now moves forward and develops despite not the most favorable conditions. While under the Communists and Leberals in the 90s, we flew into the abyss.

          Tsarist Russia fed itself with a horse and a plow and fed another 30% of Europe, the USSR under the communists from the time of Khrushchev began to buy grain, the gold reserves of the country after death Steel only decreased, and debts grew, we lagged behind in all directions from Western countries, even from such small ones as Finland or Sweden, and this is with our resources and science.

          The rule of the CPSU is a shame and a tragedy of our country !!!

          Now people sitting on the Internet during working hours whine that it has become more expensive to travel abroad, the jamon cannot be bought in Russia and foreign cars have risen in price, but I saw the poverty of my people in the 80s and the tears of my mother in the 90s who did not know what to feed children, because there was no work. This was enough for me to take the elections more seriously and responsibly.
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 11: 54
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            The USSR under the communists from the time of Khrushchev began to buy grain

            In the USSR, grain was purchased for the production of milk, meat and butter. Russia sells bread, but buys meat, meat products, cheeses and palm oil. And durum wheat in modern Russia is also in short supply.
      3. +4
        20 September 2021 10: 37
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        The communists brought to poverty and the collapse of the USSR, do you want the same fate for Russia now?

        The communists built the USSR. Those who formed a new state on the fragments of the Union brought it to poverty and the collapse of the USSR. Traitors to the communists.

        It is known what the communists want. What do you want? For the oligarchs to eat longer on the people?
    3. -1
      20 September 2021 08: 16
      Quote: Bacha
      Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?

      In the era of communism, as I understand it, you are going with those who well heated their fifths in the era of capitalism? It makes sense ...
  5. +16
    20 September 2021 07: 34
    What kind of communists, these "Zyuganovites"? Opportunists of pure water ... Their success is rather a part of the protest vote ... Not for them, but against the United Russia. On single-mandate EP "beats" the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in all respects. They don't want to vote for communist millionaires ...
    1. +23
      20 September 2021 07: 40
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      They don't want to vote for communist millionaires ...

      Long live the Edros billionaires! wassat good
      1. -2
        20 September 2021 08: 02
        Every millionaire is a communist, wants to be a communist billionaire. good fellow
      2. -5
        20 September 2021 08: 07
        Quote: Ingvar 72
        Long live the Edros billionaires!

        So some others are standing ... when necessary, they will agree.
        1. -1
          20 September 2021 09: 31
          when necessary, they will agree.
          first time or what? 96th I think many remember.
          1. +1
            20 September 2021 09: 52
            Quote: Region-25.rus
            first time or what? 96th I think many remember.

            Someone did not want to understand what happened then, and someone simply forgot, because he didn’t want to know, neither then nor now.
            Alas, alas, the fattening pig / chicken / heifer also does not really think about where everything will come in the end.
    2. +8
      20 September 2021 07: 41
      Have spoken out against the communists, now praise the edrosov.
      1. +8
        20 September 2021 07: 56
        And what kind of communists he spoke out against, Zyuganov, Rashkin and Bondarenko, and where they are communists, they don't even have a word about comic in their program. People have a short memory, they forgot how Zyuganov promoted Khodorkovsky's people from Yukos from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. To equate the Communist Party of the Russian Federation with the Communists is ignorance.

        “The largest income among the heads of factions in the State Duma in 2018 was recorded by the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Gennady Zyuganov, while the largest number of objects owned by the leader of the Liberal Democratic Party of Russia Vladimir Zhirinovsky. 12th of April.


        Details: https://regnum.ru/news/economy/2611051.html

        Oh, these "communists" already.
        1. +9
          20 September 2021 08: 17
          Quote: CruorVult
          The largest income among the heads of factions in the State Duma in 2018 was recorded by the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, Gennady Zyuganov, while the largest number of objects owned by the leader of the LDPR, Vladimir Zhirinovsky.

          Zhirik with Zyu are rogue in comparison with edros. Volodin alone is richer than both.
          And Rashkin and Bondarenko are honest people, do not slander. And the programs are working.
          Are you against a progressive taxation scale? Direct question, yes-no?
        2. -7
          20 September 2021 08: 20
          Quote: CruorVult
          Oh, these "communists" already.

          I would say "oh, these voters" !!! And Moscow, in general, is something separate from Russia. Generally, it is noticeable that the fewer problems a person has, the less he thinks with his head ... Today this is beginning to manifest itself in St. Petersburg. I think that in time we will get the State Duma, incapable of making decisions and mired in internal Duma squabbles and collusion. And since its role in the formation of the government is increasing more and more, then the government will be about the same - "swan, cancer and pike." And there, even "1993" is just a stone's throw away ... It will be fun, and maybe hot. request But some kind of "changeability", "new faces" will appear. In short, we are slowly drifting towards the "warm" phase of political reform. I think this is the merit of the United Russia in general and its leadership in particular ... as a political force that is not capable of self-cleaning and an understandable explanation of its steps.
          1. +3
            20 September 2021 08: 35
            Quote: Hagen
            I think over time we will get the State Duma, incapable of making decisions

            Is she capable of making decisions? She implements all laws from the AP. What is one law that improves people's lives? In general, the people deserve the power they have. There is no economy, no health care and education, and it deserves it. You don't need to feel sorry for anyone.
            1. -4
              20 September 2021 09: 03
              Quote: Silvestr
              What is one law that improves people's lives?

              If you really wanted to know about these solutions, you would ask Google. I agree with the rest - the people deserve what they themselves chose. You, Muscovites, voted for Yabloko, which means you support its pro-Western orientation. Who is to blame for this? Spoon with a spoonful. It's like them who stuck the Bologna system into our education. So don't groan about the lack of education. You (don’t take it personally, I’m a community of Muscovites-voters) have not ruined everything yet ... And yes, you shouldn't feel sorry for anyone. You (Moscow) also need the right to register everything in the country that produces in the city, take away and start registering a legal entity at the place of their main production with the payment of all types of taxes (which is due to local and regional tax authorities) in the field. That will be exactly the kind of justice that everyone in the country is talking about. I think you will immediately have less traffic jams, and the air will become cleaner. And yes, you will start to think like the national average.
            2. +2
              20 September 2021 09: 53
              Name at least one law introduced from the AP - which has not been adopted? It would be nice to disperse the Duma in general, and instead of maintaining them, a couple of Boreyevs would be built in 5 years ... It would be much more useful ...
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 12: 19
                Quote: Level 2 Advisor
                and instead of keeping them, a couple of Boreyevs should be built in 5 years.

                A couple? belay You are simply not well informed about the State Duma budget ...
          2. +1
            20 September 2021 09: 33
            Today this is beginning to manifest itself in St. Petersburg.
            and more specifically, you can? And the fact that I’m walking around and just noticing is that they’re thinking less and less with their heads. But not from idleness and lack of problems.
            1. 0
              20 September 2021 10: 00
              Quote: Region-25.rus
              And the fact that I’m walking around and just noticing is that they’re thinking less and less with their heads. But not from idleness and lack of problems.

              Much depends on the starting point and your inner sense of justice. Someone may disagree with your idea of ​​"thinking with your head". The concept of problems can also be very different for you, as a resident of St. Petersburg and a resident, for example, Pargolovo / Sertolovo or Vsevolozhsk.
        3. +4
          20 September 2021 09: 00
          Quote: CruorVult
          Highest income among the heads of factions in the State Duma in 2018 recorded by the leader of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation Gennady Zyuganov

          How many billions ??

          By the way, and Lenin is generally a nobleman! Does this circumstance bother you? No? Maybe he is also a fake Bolshevik? Well, so it turns out according to your "beautiful" logic!

          Quote: CruorVult
          Oh, already these "communists".

          The guards don't like the quiet Russian communists at all! Give them the same as before - with strikes, strikes and barricades !!

          Just one question. Do you want a revolution?
    3. -2
      20 September 2021 07: 44
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What kind of communists, these "Zyuganovites"? Opportunists of pure water ... Their success is rather a part of the protest vote ... Not for them, but against the United Russia. On single-mandate EP "beats" the Communist Party of the Russian Federation in all respects. They don't want to vote for communist millionaires ...

      Late uncle ... Late. Caught up in voting for billionaires ...... the train left yesterday! And what about you, it would be necessary to check for extremism ...
      1. +3
        20 September 2021 08: 35
        Quote: ivan2022
        And what about you, it would be necessary to check for extremism ...

        Severe clinical case
    4. +11
      20 September 2021 07: 47
      Because voting AGAINST is always meaningless. You can only vote FOR. For the party and people who truly represent the interests of the people .. But such - alas, is still absent as a class .. Therefore - a tick for the Communist Party is simply self-deception and fiction .. Only distracting the people from the real struggle. First of all, for the creation of a truly people's communist party. And not Zyuganov's idiot opportunists ..

      Although - I personally voted for the Communist Party. In the absence of a normal Communist Party and with a burning desire to somehow screw up the United Russia, these will come off .. But those who voted for the United Russia, like a winning one, there seem to be none among my friends ..
      1. +1
        20 September 2021 08: 09
        Quote: paul3390
        Because voting AGAINST is always pointless

        No to see the neighbors, how they went ??? The act was so fervently staged a flash mob, a vote against chocolate, for everything green !!! And what do they have now or do they have now?
        1. +3
          20 September 2021 09: 20
          Quote: rocket757
          And what do they have now or do they have now?

          And if you ask us about it? - Do we have or do they have us?
          1. +2
            20 September 2021 09: 30
            Quote: Overlock
            And if you ask us about it?

            Do you have an answer to this question?
            I wrote so long ago and unequivocally that THIS power is not for the people, it serves the ruling class of the rich! Accordingly, they have buns, we have bumps ... only due to the backlog from the past, there is / was everything and a lot that even the current richest and cannot use right away, THERE IS NOWHERE, so we, down, some crumbs remain / get ...
            1. +3
              20 September 2021 12: 39
              Quote: rocket757
              Do you have an answer to this question?

              There is! - We have
              1. +2
                20 September 2021 13: 12
                In short, the same thing.
                Is brevity welcomed or not?
                1. +3
                  20 September 2021 13: 40
                  Quote: rocket757
                  Is brevity welcomed or not?

                  Of course yes! hi
      2. -9
        20 September 2021 08: 12
        Although - I personally voted for the Communist Party. In the absence of a normal Communist Party and with a burning desire to somehow screw up the United Russia, these will come off .. But those who voted for the United Russia, like a winning one, there seem to be none among my friends ..


        The majority vote for United Russia because they are satisfied with the current course of the country, and the communists, with a complete monopoly on power, brought the people in the USSR to poverty, and the country to collapse and armed conflicts.

        But you don't give a damn about that, and after hearing a lot of nonsense from Western agents of influence with their stupid voting, you are ready to spoil yourself and your country.
        1. +5
          20 September 2021 08: 20
          What a funny character ... And what is our current course of the country? By the way - but all those sitting in power, who are they? For an hour — weren't members of the CPSU, who at one time very actively took part in the collapse of the country? Huh?

          It's just you, zaputintsy, instead of brains, you have Kremlin propaganda .. To accuse the communists of Western influence is simply ridiculous and ridiculous .. Doesn't it seem? For we are the enemies of any capitalist.
        2. +4
          20 September 2021 09: 19
          Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
          The majority votes for United Russia

          Stop promoting and lying. Your "majority" is full on YouTube and in polls
        3. 0
          20 September 2021 12: 46
          List-which of the laws adopted by the EP do you think for the good of the Russian people.
      3. +4
        20 September 2021 08: 37
        Quote: paul3390
        Because voting AGAINST is always meaningless. You can only vote FOR. For the party and people who truly represent the interests of the people.

        All right
        Quote: paul3390
        But such, alas, is still absent as a class.

        Thanks to Putin for this
      4. 0
        20 September 2021 09: 55
        I voted yesterday after lunch ... in my five-story building (where the registration is) I was the 5th .. out of 56 apartments .. it's not even 10% turnout ..
    5. 0
      20 September 2021 08: 05
      Quote: Mountain Shooter
      What kind of communists

      But this is a logical, correct question!
      There is social discontent, but it does not always turn into something positive, useful, alas, alas, it happened more than once!
      As practice shows, voting AGAINST someone, something is very easy to intercept and use in your, ANY, interes !!!
      The neighbor clearly worked AGAINST, but only FOR, it did not work, because they did not think about it anymore !!! And now, oh and oh, and many are sick of Zelenia .... although it was worthwhile to think in advance that, as a rule, only a specific, realized FOR !!!
      And so, what do we get ??? In about years then NOTHING! new and necessary.
      The lecturer was clearly divorced, as it was necessary for them.
  6. 0
    20 September 2021 07: 35
    Interesting friends! The fight continues. Let's see the final result in the evening. wink
    1. +5
      20 September 2021 08: 39
      Quote: Simon
      The fight continues.

      laughing
      Funny - what kind of fight? -Play. But the directors are afraid - they installed armored glass in the Central Executive Committee the other day, completely blocked the lane. Victory at any cost is a dangerous thing
    2. Cat
      +3
      20 September 2021 09: 13
      The fight goes on

      Fighting Nanai Boys
    3. +5
      20 September 2021 09: 17
      Quote: Simon
      Let's see the final result in the evening.

      Everything is obvious and so
  7. +2
    20 September 2021 07: 35
    Where systematic work with voters was carried out, money was spent there and the United Russia lost. Yakutia turnout 51%, Nenets Autonomous Okrug 42%. So sit at home and think that everything has already been decided for you.
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 09: 51
      Where systematic work with voters was carried out, money was spent there and the United Russia lost. Yakutia turnout 51%, Nenets Autonomous Okrug 42%. So sit at home and think that everything has already been decided for you.

      Change cause and effect. They knew from polls where things were unimportant, so they worked there.
      1. 0
        20 September 2021 09: 59
        Our voter is interesting, he voted for anyone on party lists except for the United Russia Party. And then he votes for those who are heard, advertising is the engine of progress. And this is the result.
  8. +21
    20 September 2021 07: 37
    All the same, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not shine, he personally voted for the communists (Omsk region), but I don’t believe in fair elections ... well, the ratings of the ruling party cannot remain at this level in such a situation in the country: stagnation in the economy, rising prices for everything, worsening living conditions, raising the retirement age, etc. - the people are embittered, and EP wins and wins, miracles are not otherwise.
    1. -16
      20 September 2021 08: 19
      All the same, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation does not shine, he personally voted for the communists (Omsk region), but I don’t believe in fair elections ... well, the ratings of the ruling party cannot remain at this level in such a situation in the country: stagnation in the economy, rising prices for everything, worsening living conditions, raising the retirement age, etc. - the people are embittered, and EP wins and wins, miracles are not otherwise.


      Under the communists, toilet paper was in short supply, and it was necessary to go to Moscow for sausage and they destroyed the USSR.

      Did you vote for this ?!

      I don’t need that.

      And as for the rise in prices, the increase in the retirement age, there are objective reasons for this - a decrease in prices for resources, sanctions, a decrease in the population, a pandemic.

      At the same time, today Russia is developing in all directions from agriculture to nuclear energy. Today Russia builds cars, ships and aircraft of all types.

      If you want to live better, work better.
      1. +9
        20 September 2021 08: 43
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Under the communists, toilet paper was in short supply

        It turns out, all the time went with a dirty ass - painfullaughing

        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Today Russia builds cars, ships and aircraft of all types.

        And all from scratch! Nothing was taken from the USSR laughing Oh right, there were only galoshes and there was no papifax laughing
        1. -11
          20 September 2021 09: 03
          It turns out, all the time went with a dirty ass - painful


          The whole country was wiping with the newspaper.

          And all from scratch! They didn't take anything from the USSR Oh right, there were only galoshes and there was no papifax 


          And the communists, that they have developed everything from scratch themselves or simply nationalize everything that they could ?!

          At the same time, because of the communists, we lost part of the territory and lost in the First World War, although we could have become the winners.
        2. -6
          20 September 2021 09: 40
          Quote: Silvestr
          Oh right, there were only galoshes and there was no papifax

          Plenary session of the State Duma on May 8, 2012
          About the crisis. Yes, the crisis was deep, and we "fell" more than many countries, absolutely sure. What is it because of? Due to the fact that we have a one-sided economy. And what did she do yesterday? Yes, it has developed like this for 70 years. Because everything we made ...
          Yes, my dears, yes. No need to debate. The fact is that what we produced, and no need to wave your hands, was not needed by anyone, because no one bought our galoshes, except for the Africans, who had to walk on the hot sand. That's the whole point.
          We had a defense industry - cool, strong, and we are still proud of it. We are grateful to our grandfathers and our fathers for creating such a defense industry after the Great Patriotic War.
          Voice from the audience:
          - And the first satellite.
          V. V. Putin:
          - Both the first satellite and the first man in space are our common pride, these are the achievements of the Soviet regime, of which we are all proud. These are nationwide achievements.
          But consumer goods ... Zhirinovsky has already said this. Where were they? They weren't there. Let's not lie to each other and to the people. The people know what was and what was not.
          1. -4
            20 September 2021 11: 08
            Yes, only Koralev is Russian, not a communist. This is all the achievement of the Russian people, and the communists just in front of their noses with a bloody fist or a revolver can’t shake their heads for more.
            1. +1
              20 September 2021 11: 51
              Konstantin "victim of the exam", Sergei Pavlovich Korolev is correct. wassat
      2. +9
        20 September 2021 08: 59
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        Under the communists, toilet paper was in short supply, and it was necessary to go to Moscow for sausage and they destroyed the USSR.

        Did you vote for this ?!


        I voted against EP, and therefore my vote went to their competitors (although what kind of competition there might be), explain why against? I do not like the current course of the country, and where the ruling party is leading the country ... and I also don’t like deception and how the political elite use the administrative resource to win elections and much, much more, but as practice urges, vote don’t vote , but you will still get a famous person.

        By the way, an interesting fact, even though the votes are still being counted, the results are very similar to those of 2011, United Russia - 49,32%, the Communist Party - 19,19% ... don't you think it's strange that the ratings of the ruling party have not fallen in 10 years? Constantly one election victory and always an overwhelming majority in the State Duma, and it would be fine if the standard of living would remain the same and happy people would walk on the street, but the reality is completely different. And that's why I don't believe in fair elections. those. Russia needs a completely different electoral system, honest - when the authorities cannot use the admin resource and influence the election results.
        1. -10
          20 September 2021 09: 24
          What are you specifically dissatisfied with in the current course of the country?

          Putin took over the country in 1999 immediately after the default, with rampant banditry, with the war in the Caucasus, a huge national debt of 145% of GDP, destroyed agriculture and destroyed production, a degrading army and navy, an average salary of 1000 rubles and a pension of 600, with dollar for 24 rubles !!!

          And he, with his team and support from the United Russia, pulled the country out of poverty and saved it from further collapse !!!

          That's why I vote for him !!!

          While all these populists from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation, the Liberal Democratic Party, Yabloko and the Union of Right Forces were talking nonsense and puffing their cheeks, Putin was working and United Russia was his support.

          Putin is mistaken and not everything turns out perfectly, but it is his and EP that we got out of the pit of the 90s.

          Today there is peace in the Caucasus, today we have ensured peace in Syria with minimal forces, our army and navy have become orders of magnitude stronger, we have reduced the national debt to a minimum and increased reserves of more than 600 billion dollars, today Russia exports food for 30 billion dollars a year, today Russia builds everything from cars to airplanes, the average salary in Russia is not like in Europe, of course, but still a decent 45 rubles, today trips abroad for our citizens have become the norm, only 000 million people fly to Turkey annually, the norm is a car and not one for a family, the norm is an apartment in a mortgage, but its own.

          And every year we are increasing the pace of development, despite the decline in resource prices, despite the pandemic, despite the sanctions and everything else.
          1. +5
            20 September 2021 11: 48
            Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
            What are you specifically dissatisfied with in the current course of the country?


            Stagnation in the economy, and the lack of development as such ... at least in my city, as everything was 10-15 years ago, it has remained, except for the rise in prices for everything, low salaries, etc. and so there are enough questions, because the United Russia has been maintaining its positions for several decades, all depending on the situation in the country ... and the situation, to put it mildly, is sad, the people after 2014 have become impoverished at times, prices rushed up and salary remained practically on the spot (and this is solely the merit of the Central Bank of Russia and the ruling elite), it is worth mentioning separately the increase in tariffs for communal services / electricity, for fuel and lubricants, for groceries in stores and the lack of a proper response from the government and regulatory bodies, to stagnation in power ... when the reaction is only in a direct line with Putin or a loud resonant event to which the authorities, with all their desire, cannot close their eyes, and there are a huge number of questions about pension reform, education reform, medicine and others ...

            But, most of all I am surprised by the ratings of United Russia, which, despite the above problems and questions, maintains such high positions and the majority in the State Duma / Parliament ... i.e. no matter what they do, their people love :) it's funny, isn't it? Of course, political strategists will be able to explain to the population why such high ratings and that the people have rallied around the GDP and the party in power, but every year everyone believes in this less and less ...
      3. +5
        20 September 2021 09: 16
        Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
        And as for the rise in prices, the increase in the retirement age, there are objective reasons for this

        If you remember well, when did it all start? With the fall in oil prices. The entire economy is built on the oil and gas trade.
        By the way, Putin admitted the fallacy of the pension reform. So what is the objective reason?
        1. +6
          20 September 2021 10: 49
          Quote: Overlock
          By the way, Putin admitted the fallacy of the pension reform.

          So he recognized the privatization as predatory. What's the point? Something has changed?
  9. +5
    20 September 2021 07: 39
    Apparently, there are still fewer opportunities in Moscow for a "correct" vote count than on the periphery.
    1. +3
      20 September 2021 09: 13
      Quote: Van 16
      Apparently in Moscow there are still fewer opportunities for a "correct" vote count.

      More! 2 million voted through state services, and voting in this way was mandatory for state employees and commercial organizations. The day before, the gentlemen came to them with ... a fireman / representative of Rospotrebnadzor and warned that otherwise the company could close due to the lack of a fire extinguisher, for example. On the other hand, Sobyanin launched apartments in the lottery among those who voted online. Sobyanin and virtue?
      The motivation of the authorities is obvious, and the authorities will never do anything to their own detriment.
      1. +2
        20 September 2021 09: 23
        Apparently it is, judging by the results of online voting hi
      2. +2
        20 September 2021 10: 51
        Quote: Overlock
        On the other hand, Sobyanin launched apartments in the lottery among those who voted online. Sobyanin and virtue?

        Does he take away his extra ones from the heart?
      3. -1
        20 September 2021 12: 03
        Quote: Overlock
        The day before, the gentlemen came to them with ... a fireman / representative of Rospotrebnadzor and warned that otherwise the company could close due to the lack of a fire extinguisher, for example.

        In response to such pressure, the head of a commercial structure has a desire to vote against the ruling party, allowing pressure on him. In addition, the leader, fulfilling the requirements of the local government, can conduct effective quiet campaigning against the ruling party.
  10. -2
    20 September 2021 07: 41
    Vote, do not vote ... This is not an election, this is a circus.
    1. +2
      20 September 2021 07: 46
      Voted on the 19th in the morning. Very little is recorded on the voter list. The turnout is small.
      1. +1
        20 September 2021 08: 15
        Did you have electronic / remote voting? This is also a working option.
        We have everything in the old fashioned way and the lists are actually filled somewhere in half, more / less, about that .... it is clear, only those sheets I saw that were leafing through until they found me. Went Sunday, in the evening, so sho they could not be filled so much more.
    2. +3
      20 September 2021 08: 01
      For the circus not to work against you, the number of voters must be at least 74%.
    3. +2
      20 September 2021 08: 17
      Come on. And there is "more fun".
      In our village, everything is calm, decorous ... periphery, people live differently.
  11. +2
    20 September 2021 07: 46
    An interesting alignment of forces in Moscow. Will the Communist Party take first place there? Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?
    ... It is unlikely that people believe in miracles, but there is a demand for social justice!
    Here are just those who have to pull this request onto themselves, as it is not visible .... only empty signs, alas.
    1. +2
      20 September 2021 07: 57
      The main thing is not who voted how, but who will count.
      And then, democracy is both a myth and a utopia. There is NO it and never was.
      1. 0
        20 September 2021 08: 27
        As for the NO, I agree unconditionally. About it WASN'T, there may already be reservations such as the Novgorod Veche or Athenian democracy. But about what will happen, there is still a grandmother in two.
        On the one hand, information technologies make it possible for everyone to express their will directly on any issue without any deputies and to control the implementation of decisions made. On the other hand, these same technologies, but in the hands of a handful of people, the so-called elite, will allow complete control of the rest of society, including control over thoughts, without any chance of changing this situation.
        1. +1
          20 September 2021 08: 36
          Quote: syndicalist
          On the other hand, these same technologies, but in the hands of a handful of people, the so-called elite, will allow complete control of the rest of society,

          I don’t think that the thoughts, straight, got and control ... a person, too complex and stubborn "cattle", broke off many, "masters / conductors" and other rulers.
          But "correctly" to calculate the expression of will, it's all in the hands of those who count !!! and there are such fakirs, masters of the "circus" genre, that's YES!
          1. +3
            20 September 2021 09: 26
            "But it is" correct "to calculate the expression of will, everything is in the hands of those who count !!! and there are such fakirs, masters of the" circus "genre, that's YES!"
            as the notorious Samuel Clemens said, if something depended on the elections, we would not be allowed to participate in them.
            everything sto ... was decided for us and instead of us. but to explain to us that this is not so, people from the power of any level can. what they have learned well over these decades is to explain everything that happens at their desire and command. After all, we ourselves do not guess that everything that happens is for our good, we think, the intrigues of enemies - well, there, the increase in prices, the retirement age, the decline in the living standards of the population, the collapse of industry, but some kind of Putin, or Volodin, will explain that this is all for our good, and so warmth in the soul becomes, as if the stoparik took it - it turns out that the authorities care about the population, and the enemies have nothing to do with it, there are enough of our own
            1. +1
              20 September 2021 09: 49
              Quote: aglet
              everything sto ... was decided for us and instead of us. but explain to us

              And yet, when a society appears, PROTEST dominates, backed up by real, and not paper-based / Internet content / presence of active supporters, the powerful / upper ones begin to spin like in a frying pan, because it is so easy not to notice / suppress it is dangerous for them too!
              They are not stupid, and they have sensible advisers, on the maintenance !!! So they try to keep their finger on the pulse and neutralize protest moods, OF A DIRECT DIRECTION, they strive all the time, and not from time to time. This is a logical, already familiar tactic used in all countries where the ruling class is anti-popular / dependent in its essence.
              The question is, what to do for those who are not just dissatisfied and resigned / grumble in their cubbyhole, but strives for changes for the better not only for themselves, but for the entire working people as a whole ???
        2. +6
          20 September 2021 08: 53
          About veche - merchants simply hired gorlopanov. Even now, on any Maidan, the scheme has not changed one iota.
          As for the Greeks, it's a little more complicated, but still similar. There, just another relationship with the policies rolled.
      2. +1
        20 September 2021 08: 38
        Quote: Kuroneko
        And then, democracy is both a myth and a utopia.

        One way or another ... some phenomena exist / work while ... they are BELIEVED in them !!! The main task is to convince that the gopher is there, although it may not have been there when it was born! The swamp there and only reptiles amphibians can live!
    2. 0
      20 September 2021 08: 45
      Quote: rocket757
      but there is a demand for social justice!

      Covered with a copper basin this request, the spring is compressed until it compresses or breaks. The question now is this, it is expected to break. Our mentality is not the same
      1. +2
        20 September 2021 09: 03
        Quote: Silvestr
        Covered with a copper basin this request,

        It was clear in advance ...
        And the spring ... we see it in different ways, from our bell tower ... let's say, the ways how it can straighten out, you can't see it from my bell tower, IN ANY WAY. Still, the obvious, these ways, by itself, will not appear, and this is a good reason to start looking for these ways, to create, and not to wait for all this to collapse with a ringing, destruction and other troubles.
  12. +9
    20 September 2021 07: 46
    Naive people believe in the "Zyuganov Communist Party". Zyuganov resembles Brezhnev in his last years.
    It is a shame to watch and listen to his constant "opposition mantras". But he will not give up his place to the young until he is carried forward with his feet. Therefore, the people voted not for Zyuganov, but against the overweight "United Russia".
    1. +7
      20 September 2021 07: 54
      Zyugandel is simply a traitor to communism. Under Stalin, he would have been slapped at the moment and did the right thing.
      1. +4
        20 September 2021 09: 06
        Quote: Kuroneko
        Under Stalin, his ...

        I think that under Stalin, all of today's power, the entire vertical, without exceptions,
        Quote: Kuroneko
        ... spanked at the moment ...
        1. -1
          20 September 2021 09: 23
          Well, Putin still would have pulled on the role of Molotov. He does well in foreign policy.
          1. +1
            20 September 2021 12: 08
            Quote: Kuroneko
            Well, Putin still would have pulled on the role of Molotov. He does well in foreign policy.

            Stalin would have slapped Putin first as a political rival, the United Russia faction in the State Duma in its own mass does not care who commands her and what she is told to do as long as its members have the opportunity to eat deliciously and sleep sweetly at the expense of the state and the people ..
    2. +5
      20 September 2021 08: 02
      I personally voted for the Communist Party only because of the hatred ep
    3. +2
      20 September 2021 08: 45
      Quote: askort154
      Therefore, the people voted not for Zyuganov, but against the overweight "United Russia".

      All right
    4. +1
      20 September 2021 09: 08
      Quote: askort154
      Zyuganov resembles Brezhnev in his last years.

      Brezhnev is now remembered by many, but they do not remember what happened after him ..
  13. -2
    20 September 2021 07: 48
    "Sated Moscow" against "hungry Tmutarakan" - - who wins?
    1. +4
      20 September 2021 08: 21
      Okay, Moscow is not starving ... but where did you find the hungry Tmutarakan? Throw the location ... let's see if we sympathize, or even what advice we give, maybe help them, poor fellows.
  14. -4
    20 September 2021 07: 48
    Oh, guys, I do not advise you to leave your comments under this article, you run the risk of "snatching", both in one direction and in the other.
    wassat wassat wassat
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 08: 24
      So that's the point!
      You can measure the level of support, both sides ...
      Although ... it doesn't matter to me anymore, + or - they will put it, nothing will change, no way ... BORING.
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    1. +2
      20 September 2021 08: 03
      in Russian it is accepted here
  16. +4
    20 September 2021 07: 50
    Well, what can I say, judging by the results of the elections - the turmoil is only a matter of time.
    1. -1
      20 September 2021 08: 24
      Exactly. Because the results are drawn, understandable to absolutely anyone.
    2. +1
      20 September 2021 08: 26
      Come on, troubles or something else, happen, as usual, here it is not necessary to be a prophet, if you do not get carried away with specifics!
      Something, when ever will happen ... THE MOST ACCURATE FORECAST!
    3. -2
      20 September 2021 08: 46
      Quote: Private 89
      confusion is only a question

      This was the last chance to agree peacefully
  17. +1
    20 September 2021 07: 51
    What's the mess with "New People"? Who are, what is the platform? = _ =
    1. +4
      20 September 2021 08: 04
      distraction, no more
      1. +2
        20 September 2021 08: 21
        That's it. Zhirik, of course, too, but he has charisma and a well-developed platform. And what kind of muddy New people are - to the average voter ... no, no, we are not people either, we are ELECTORAT in such cases - well, it is still completely unclear. = _ =
        But in any case, I'm not for replacement. The hope that those who have been at the helm of the authorities for a long time have nevertheless been grabbed, and at least sometimes they will do something for the people. And if new and hungry come, then the first thing they will start to grab. Especially the "young communists". Well, I don't see anyone there who is ideological. Solid opportunists.
        1. +2
          20 September 2021 08: 25
          Quote: Kuroneko
          Zhirik, of course, too, but he has charisma and a well-developed platform.

          By the collapse of the country, but with imperial show-off. laughing
          1. +1
            20 September 2021 08: 32
            What if he could become a legal-Russian and successful Hitler? I'm kidding, of course. But ... every Russian woman has a Russian peasant, boots in the Indian Ocean, scientists who slightly change the gravitational field of the Earth ...
            Sounds tempting. = 3
    2. +2
      20 September 2021 08: 16
      Quote: Kuroneko
      What's the mess with "New People"? Who are, what is the platform?

      The kids of the 90s crimson jackets grew up, they want to eat themselves.
    3. -1
      20 September 2021 10: 15
      Quote: Kuroneko
      What's the mess with "New People"? Who are, what is the platform? = _ =

      Liberals controlled by the Kremlin, instead of transplanted Navalny, fed by the West.
  18. +8
    20 September 2021 07: 56
    An interesting alignment of forces in Moscow. Will the Communist Party take first place there? Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism? What kind of guy said that? The Communist Party and communism are "two big differences"! The people are beginning to realize that EdRo is his enemy ... the enemy of the country! And he begins to vote for the Communist Party, as a counterweight to the "edros", considering EdRo a great evil! It's a pity ! It’s a pity that we didn’t manage to push EdRo to the second place! This means that the troubles of Russia, the suffering of the people will continue! It turns out that ... either a significant part of the people has lost the instinct of self-preservation and does not realize the anti-nationality of the "edrosov" ... or the ruling regime again played like a cheat! (Remember Yeltsin's election? When he "won" with a rating of only 5%!)
    1. +2
      20 September 2021 09: 04
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      It’s a pity that we didn’t manage to push EdRo to the second place! This means that the troubles of Russia, the suffering of the people will continue!

      That's just the point, but you're right ...
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      a significant part of the people have lost the instinct of self-preservation and do not realize the anti-nationality of the "edrosov"

      a plus..
      Quote: Nikolaevich I
      the ruling regime again played like a sharper!

    2. +4
      20 September 2021 10: 05
      It’s a pity that we didn’t manage to push EdRo to the second place!

      Believe me, you will NEVER succeed in the bourgeois elections .. Well, who will allow you to change the power by voting, when there is such a fucking loot at stake?
      1. +1
        20 September 2021 10: 13
        Quote: paul3390
        Believe me, you will NEVER succeed in the bourgeois elections ..

        Semin liked it.
  19. +3
    20 September 2021 08: 18
    And that, well, Zyuganov will be in the majority, only dancing to the tune will be so. The Communist Party of the Russian Federation now, this is a cardboard batch!
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 08: 51
      Quote: 75Sergey
      And what, well will be

      And nothing will happen. Everything will be the same.))
    2. +3
      20 September 2021 09: 00
      Quote: 75Sergey
      Zyuganov

      Not forever
      1. +2
        20 September 2021 11: 10
        And there is a system, and in the most caricatured version, the old ones are afraid for their place and they do not care about the people.
        You cannot make a revolution with them.
        GD, as she was a dinosaur, remained so.
  20. +3
    20 September 2021 08: 29
    More than 90% of my friends and colleagues at work voted for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and the SR, not because they liked these parties, namely against a united Russia. For many, it is already in the throat, but it will win anyway. Shoigu and Lavrov were pushed in there. They feel that the people are very dissatisfied.
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 11: 13
      Your enemy is my friend ?! Bad tactics.
      It would be better if United Russia won 100%, then the puppet parties in the next elections would be on an equal footing with those parties that can really do something for the country.
  21. +3
    20 September 2021 08: 49
    Zyuga has already been attached to the Moscow City Duma by ... the dynasty of communists.
    1. +2
      20 September 2021 11: 15
      With these words Ulyanov V.I. (Lenin) tosses and turns in the sarcophagus.
      He is a communist, like a ballerina of me.
      What has he achieved all the time? Did you keep one promise?
  22. 0
    20 September 2021 08: 49
    at the moment in Moscow the leader in the number of votes "for" the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - 30% versus 29% of the "United Russia".

    This is a serious claim to leadership! With such a margin.))
  23. +2
    20 September 2021 08: 53
    "There are few real violent, so there are no leaders." They vote against, not for Zyuganov. The rest are there for fun.
  24. -1
    20 September 2021 08: 59
    "United Russia" has crossed the 50% line ....

    She did not step over, but overstepped

    Defeating the EP was something of an enchanting fairy tale, in which no one sane did not believe, but wanted to somehow change the situation. And the situation is poured into concrete. Only "something" can crack it, although time and concrete breaks
  25. -3
    20 September 2021 09: 05
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    In addition to Moscow, the Communist Party of the Russian Federation has the highest results in such subjects of the Russian Federation as the Ulyanovsk region - almost 34%, the Omsk region - almost 31%, Novosibirsk - 26%, the Altai Republic - 30%, Irkutsk region - 29%, Nenets Autonomous Okrug - 33%. By the way, the Nenets Autonomous Okrug is one of those subjects where Zyuganov's party is bypassing United Russia so far.
    Д
    Yakutia was forgotten, where the Communist Party received 35%, the United Russia only 33%. https://news.ykt.ru/article/126750?gotop.news
    It is good that now the United Russia does not have a majority of votes in the Duma, and they will have to negotiate with other parties when adopting anti-popular laws like raising the retirement age.
    Stop hanging the retirement age with this. Russia is actually the last in Europe to raise the retirement age. Just don't say that there are more pensions in Europe. There, the pension is actually eaten twice as high as the price of housing, food, medicine, fuel, transport, theater tickets, etc. And there are no discounts or benefits for pensioners in Europe, compared to Russia. Before the pandemic, they were treated in Kislovodsk at the Gorky sanatorium. Sanatorium from the RAS. So one lady still hayala Putin, what a chock he is, that they gave a free ticket only to her, but her husband and grandson have to pay for the ticket.At the question, and the husband and the grandson refer to those who work or are employees in the sphere of the Russian Academy of Sciences, the lady replied that they are there does not work and does not serve. But give them a free ticket, and if not, then Putin is bad. Give me a freebie and that's it ... stop whining with this retirement age
    1. +2
      20 September 2021 10: 10
      Just don't say that there are more pensions in Europe

      For some reason, in Europe, people's health is noticeably better. Unlike us, 60 years there is still quite a vigorous age. In the blessed Russian Federation - not everyone stupidly lives up to it, and only after it to work in general darkness! Unless, of course, you are not a deputy ..

      And most importantly - you will find a job! Who needs you here even after 45? And let's say at 62? So it turns out that there is no pension or work ..
      1. 0
        20 September 2021 11: 07
        Quote: paul3390
        Just don't say that there are more pensions in Europe

        In Europe - and people's health is noticeably better for some reason. Unlike us, 60 years there is still quite a vigorous age. In the blessed Russian Federation, not everyone stupidly lives up to it, and only after it they work in general darkness! Unless, of course, you are not a deputy ..

        And most importantly - you will find a job! Who needs you here even after 45? And let's say at 62? So it turns out that there is no pension or work ..

        ===
        Well, I don’t know, available medicine can be even worse. Yes, the offices are cleaner, the equipment is newer, and the queues for specialists for months, and the prices for drugs are cosmic (citramon - 1.8 euros).
        and how at ease with work, and for those who are over 50
    2. 0
      20 September 2021 10: 14
      Precisely that you can live more on it, and survive on a pension in Russia.
    3. +2
      20 September 2021 11: 07
      That is, do you think that pensioners live in Europe as well or worse than ours !?
  26. 0
    20 September 2021 09: 15
    The change of power in Russia has never taken place in elections. So it will be next time. The question is when?
  27. 0
    20 September 2021 09: 30
    The Communist Party of the Russian Federation in the eye of Zyuganov will be sold to United Russia, just as they were sold to Grudinin. These are not the same communists
    1. +7
      20 September 2021 10: 10
      These are not the same communists

      The Communist Party is not communists at all.
      1. -3
        20 September 2021 16: 54
        The Communist Party is not communists at all.

        Truly so. I would vote for the Communist Party of the Soviet Union, and for the Communist Party - a shame and a bad-ass.
  28. +1
    20 September 2021 09: 32
    When the Communist Party wins, they then give the victory to the loser (Zyuganov-1996).
    1. -1
      20 September 2021 10: 10
      Well, yes, and the enemies of the communists simply wanted to give Russia back to the communists and their supporters.
  29. 0
    20 September 2021 09: 32
    The liberal oligarchic system established in Russia will not go anywhere, and whoever comes to power will decide that it will turn out to change something
    peaceful vote
  30. -1
    20 September 2021 09: 37
    And how despicable were the spoilers of the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - "Communists of Russia", on my Moscow site there are two single-mandate columns next to them - from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation - Kurgan, and from "Communists of Russia" - Kurganov.
  31. +4
    20 September 2021 09: 40
    It seems to me that the Communist Party of the Russian Federation is now very much hampered by Zyuganov, who is already perceived as a "lazy fat cat" who is satisfied with everything, including the role of a "pocket oppositionist". Who from time to time talks about Lenin or about socialist ideals, but always votes in the right way.
    We need a new, relatively young leader.
  32. +3
    20 September 2021 09: 57
    The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has long needed renewal, new faces and leaders. Yes, and action against the EP policy would not hurt. Moreover, there are such people there.
    1. -3
      20 September 2021 10: 56
      Quote: kitpit
      The Communist Party of the Russian Federation has long needed renewal, new faces and leaders. Yes, and action against the EP policy would not hurt. Moreover, there are such people there.

      ===
      the name would be changed by the communist capitalists. himself from the USSR, but Russia will not pull back now.
      1. 0
        20 September 2021 17: 40
        Neocommi. To attract young people. wink
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 08: 35
          Quote: vindigo
          Neocommi. To attract young people. wink

          ===
          for young people now there are many other gingerbreads hanging out, until they try everything, then there will be no return to the ideas of a just society.
  33. 0
    20 September 2021 10: 01
    by the way. such news is reported: Shooting in the Perm State University is underway. They say. that there are already 5 dead. According to preliminary data, the name of the type who opened the fire is Timur Bekmansurov, he is 18 years old. Everyone eliminated him.
    [media =https://iz.ru/1224154/2021-09-20/ochevidtcy-soobshchaiut-o-strelbe-v-permskom-universitete]
  34. +1
    20 September 2021 10: 09
    Vote, do not vote, you will still get EP! Everything was calculated even before the elections.
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    1. 0
      20 September 2021 10: 32
      What do the so-called liberals have to do with it? In the Russian Federation all 30 years there are only two real political parties - the party of the enemies of the Communists, and the Communist Party. And those who vote for the authorities are NOT able to adequately answer, as citizens of their country with a sense of responsibility, FOR what they are from what the authorities have done with Russia and the Russian people. What are the results of the government's work.
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        1. +1
          20 September 2021 10: 46
          This "footcloth" could fit into one phrase from the manuals of Putin's paid propagandists "and you remember what happened in the 90s." Putin is good because Yeltsin is bad, it was better under Yeltsin and Putin, because everything was bad under the Soviet communists. It is good under Putin, because everything is bad in Ukraine.
          We already know all these training manuals by heart.
          1. -2
            20 September 2021 11: 00
            What training manuals? I am telling you about myself, about my life experience, about my family.
            or for you all who say what you don't like are the agents of the Kremlin?
            Do you really not understand that a huge number of people support the government precisely because, roughly speaking, it feeds them much better than the previous government? :)
            I absolutely do not give a damn about all these beautiful words about "scraping" from Putin, just as I do not give a damn about those "democratic values" that the liberals talk about.
            It doesn't matter to me.
            But I see that the standard of living for me and my family, my friends has grown significantly.
            That is why I vote for the current government.
            If the standard of living drops tomorrow, I will immediately vote for someone else.
            1. 0
              20 September 2021 11: 11
              Yes, the majority of the people under Yeltsin, imposed by the enemies of the communists, felt very bad, but this does not mean that if it has become a little better under Putin, you have to be only for him.
              And without Putin, and his trillions of free dollars from high world prices for the export of natural resources from the Russian Federation, and in other Soviet republics captured by the enemies of the communists, it was the same - in the 90s everything collapsed, in the zero and subsequent years it became a little better.
              1. 0
                20 September 2021 11: 55
                Quote: tatra
                under Yeltsin imposed by the enemies of the communists

                Wasn't Yeltsin a member of the Communist Party? Like the rest?
                1. 0
                  20 September 2021 12: 12
                  Well, again, the 30-year-old cowardly ideology of the enemies of the communists, and of the Yeltsin-Putin government IMPOSED by them in 1991, "but we have nothing to do with it, it's all the communists to blame," but in general Putin's Bolsheviks ruined the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the USSR.
                  1. -1
                    20 September 2021 13: 27
                    Quote: tatra
                    Well, again 30-year-old cowardly ideology

                    That is, it was.
                    Quote: tatra
                    In general, Putin's Bolsheviks destroyed the Communist Party of the Soviet Union and the USSR

                    Who are the Martians?
              2. 0
                20 September 2021 12: 47
                And I'm not saying who to whom to be.
                Note - I was only talking about the fact that it became better for ME AND MY CLOSEES. Much better.
                We are better off with this power - we vote for this power.
                Someone felt worse - well, ok, vote for another, I'm not against it.
                For this, elections are made to determine whether the current government is trustworthy or whether it needs to be changed to another.
                :)
                1. +1
                  20 September 2021 13: 03
                  Here, the classic cosmopolitan selfish mentality of the enemies of the communists - if only THEM was good, and the country and the people do not care. Therefore, they climb to put forward for "objective assessments" of the life of the people in the pre-revolutionary, Soviet, post-Soviet periods, their crown "but I, me, me ...".
                  And they even have no commonality among them, when you write to them “you, the enemies of the communists”, they answer “I have nothing to do with it,” “but I did not capture the USSR,” and so on, in the same style.
                  1. -1
                    20 September 2021 14: 43
                    Why don't care? For me, the people are me, my loved ones, those with whom I communicate.
                    I look at what is happening from the perspective of my social circle.
                    Like all other people.
                    And for me and for my loved ones, the situation has definitely improved.
                    Even in that "priest of the world" - the city of Slantsy, where I was born once, now life is better than 30 years ago.
                    Despite the fact that this is already a mega-depressive region.
                    That's all.
                    I cannot see through the eyes of all people. And nobody can.
                    And you don't need it.
                    Everyone evaluates the actions of the authorities based on his vision of the situation.
                    For me - good, for loved ones - good, some terrible shoals are not visible, well, thank God. We put a tick in the newsletter in the right place.
                    What else to vote for?
                    FOR a bright future promised by someone there? What for? Have already gone through this.
                    For "demo value"? Why did they surrender to me? Have ate in the 90s of these values.
        2. +3
          20 September 2021 12: 59
          Quote: Denis812
          And I really can't compare that state of the country with the current one.

          Where did you get such primitivism of thinking? The ruling regime (of the same "bottling" as now ...) drove you and those like you into an almost primitive state, trying to rot the country; and you forgave him and now you are glad that the regime, having got drunk to the bone, now throws you leftovers! That you can now seize buckwheat with a piece of "starch" sausage!
          1. -2
            20 September 2021 14: 45
            Again.
            I assess the standard of living
            Then and now.
            Yours and your loved ones.
            The standard of living has become higher.
            I am not trying to teach someone, I am not asking someone to vote for someone. Make your own choice. I speak personally for myself and what my relatives told me, who also made their own choice.
            What's wrong?
            1. -1
              21 September 2021 00: 44
              Under Yeltsin, the people were almost brought to a primitive state, even to starvation! They robbed ... they took everything! And how? And such that they sold the property of the whole country for a penny! From the ruble of the cost of the enterprise, they took a penny, or even half a penny! The money they received was quickly plundered ... and the people were told: "There is no money, but you hold on!" And you and many others swallowed buckwheat, and rejoiced at this, because there were many of those who did not even have bread and they were starving for real! And the "businessmen" -buyers did not rebuild the purchased factories, change the old equipment for the new ... as the ruling regime had promised! They auctioned it all off! Remember the movie Pretty Woman ... with Julia Roberts and Richard Gere? What business was the "hero" of Richard Gere doing there? That's how it is in Russia! And when there was nothing to sell, except for the homeland (but where are the people to do with it then?), Then some "businessmen", fearing that they would quickly gobble up their speculative capital, and therefore they need to take care of a "stable income" to discover something: shopping centers, offices, enterprises, mines with natural resources ... they also needed little people! I had to feed these little people! And now, you are glad that you can flavor your buckwheat with cellulose sausage and technical processing of meat leftovers ... yesterday's half-eaten remnants, you begin to "bless" the same ruling clan, in which only the "son" replaced Yeltsin's "dad"! The clan that almost drove the people to a bestial state! Should I be calm about your "choice." As you say? I think no ! Because your population is human with a primitive ideology deprives us, not zombie people, of the opportunity to change the future of the country, the future of our children and grandchildren in the near future!
              1. 0
                21 September 2021 11: 26
                Why do you think that this is my "population of people with a primitive ideology"? I’m not telling you that it’s you and people like you are all downs, etc. :) Respect your interlocutor :)
                I am telling you that the main task of the authorities is to protect the population and improve their lives. And I have said for the thirtieth time that from MY point of view and the point of view of my loved ones, the authorities are coping with this task. It may not be perfect, someone mows, someone steals. But in general, it copes.
                Do you understand?
                The power is FULFILLING its main task.
                If the standard of living continues to improve, I will continue to stubbornly vote for this government.
                I sincerely do not understand what else one could want from the authorities besides improving the standard of living. What???
                Victories over world capitalism? Well, this is nonsense. Victories in the "war"? So the war does not seem to be hot. And Crimea was taken without blood anyway. Launch a rocket to Mars? Well, over time, they will start. I would like to tomorrow, of course, but tomorrow will not work, alas.
                I do not need any new ideology like communists or democrats.
                I just want a calm development and growth of well-being.

                And what do YOU ​​want? Can you explain please.
                1. 0
                  21 September 2021 12: 35
                  Why explain? You just listen (see) the speeches of "edrosov" in the Duma for this or that period ... for which they vote "for" and "against"! Analyze how these laws will affect the people! One more recommendation ... find data on the Internet, where according to one or another indicator is Russia ... and which countries in Africa and Latin America are ahead of it ...
                  1. 0
                    22 September 2021 20: 04
                    I am the PEOPLE.
                    My family and my friends are the PEOPLE.
                    As a result of the actions of the authorities over the past 20 years, the standard of living has increased. Significantly.
                    I and my loved ones are happy with this. Highly.
                    Why are you asking me to look at any voting?
                    I look at my debit with credit and I look at what I can give my children.
                    This is much more real than what is being done there in the Duma.

                    Can you hear me at all?
                    I speak to you for reality, and you tell me about some "places in the economy" and so on.
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      1. -1
        20 September 2021 12: 52
        Everyone always votes for a handout.
        The government promises the people buns.
        The only difference is whether it will be +5 percent to the pension or 15000 to the elections, or an increase in capital mat or each citizen in a hut by 2000.
        Power buys us with promises.
        Then she may not do them.
        But my grandmother is quite happy. Because 15k they are HERE. And there is an increase to the pension, it is noticeable, it can be seen on a pension account.
        But what will happen if others come - that's really xs.
        Yes, I also don’t understand how people sell votes for half a liter or two kg of buckwheat.
        But seriously, if, then I am NOTHING different from them, since Putin stupidly bought me, too, by increasing my standard of living.
        Haven't I sold out? Yes, sold, of course, with giblets. But if the government makes my life better, then I am ready to continue selling to it. This is called the right choice when you choose the one who makes your life better. Is not it so?
    3. +3
      20 September 2021 12: 49
      Quote: Denis812
      I've voted for the EP. And my wife is for EP.

      Here is the answer to the question: What about the people? ... And there are still a lot of such "ordinary" inhabitants with primitive thinking who have "lost the instinct of self-preservation" in the country! In addition, marginals of "all stripes" ... give the townsfolk and marginal people "Putin's 30 pieces of silver" ... and they are happy (!) ... until the money runs out! And so that the money does not have time to run out at the right time, there are elections "on the nose"! And then ? And after "the sheriff's Indians don't care about problems!" ...
      1. 0
        21 September 2021 11: 14
        I perfectly understand what you are talking about.
        But I lived in the USSR. Lived under Yeltsin, lived and live under Putin.
        Under Putin, my family and I are better off. Why should I vote for someone else?
        If I'm comfortable with him
        Or do you, in spite of everyone, vote for who will make your life worse? And encourage others to do the same? But this is illogical.
        Voting is a way of expressing approval or disapproval of the authorities.
        This power is good for me, I approve of many of its actions. Many do not. For example, raising the pension age.
        But in sum, the positive still outweighs.
        If the negative outweighs the next time, I will go through and vote for others.

        What am I doing wrong, please explain to me?
  36. +2
    20 September 2021 10: 34
    While this EP is in power, the joy of the people of Russia will not increase. But the oligarchs are on a horse, they know exactly which of this organization and in what amount should be greased in order to rip off the Russian people once again.
  37. +6
    20 September 2021 10: 50
    Well, are we looking forward to another five with pleasure? By retirement age?
    And to cancel pensions for those who work altogether - they wear their legs to work, let them earn money, there is no reason to sit on Siluyan's neck!
    For military pensioners, the coefficient can be reduced, because 71 is very bold, make 69, a beautiful figure, even if you look upside down!
    Yes, the elections are over, and now gasoline will be able to show its real market price! And so how much they have endured, have suffered so much! And borscht must be cooked without meat, red meat is bad for the elderly! And here's some kind of reddish carrot, and beets to some extent ... It smells of "red revenge". So the current recipe for borscht: cook potatoes, add cabbage and onions. Salt is harmful, Myasnikov speaks out every day, yeah, bay leaf, you can't eat it, you can use it many times.
    By the way, to award Pamfilova for merits, and to the system administrator of electronic voting too. So it goes, you see - new Pamfilovs and Churovs will not be needed, artificial intelligence will easily replace everyone ... Oh, by the way, maybe the deputies on party lists ... that ... We take the party program, shift it ... no , not in assembler, no one writes in it, and for a long time, it is expensive, but in some Python or Pearl, and voila - we get the opinion of the party on all issues in an automatic legislative mode!
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  39. +4
    20 September 2021 10: 58
    After the last "Putin's elections", the authorities threw themselves over the people by raising the retirement age, and it’s scary to imagine what they’re going to do over the people after these elections.
  40. +4
    20 September 2021 10: 59
    Well, what can we say, the people deserve what they have, I hope the retirement age will be raised to 80, and all state employees will be transferred to the ministry, the country needs to be raised, their belts tightened
  41. +1
    20 September 2021 11: 00
    the youth did not go to the polls !! therefore, we do not know the real picture! if Navalny and his people were allowed to participate in the elections, then in big cities the alignment would be completely different !!
    and so the real mood of society is difficult to find out, but I know one thing for sure --- and the king and edro do not cause anything but disgust in normal people !! And with their bribery of pensioners and law enforcement agencies, they signed in fear of the people
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 11: 45
      Who are these - people of Navalny?
  42. +1
    20 September 2021 11: 42
    My friend was offered to participate in polls of people at the exit from the polling stations, now I found out from her who the majority of people were for, and the majority at her polling station in the Eastern District of Moscow answered that for the Communist Party, especially yesterday there were only answers-FOR the Communist Party ...
  43. +1
    20 September 2021 11: 46
    Do Muscovites want to return to the era of communism?

    And what about Beijing? "Communism", or socialism from the Chinese specifics, or how some people write capitalism with the Communist Party in power? And you can't say that they are very bad.
    Why is it not possible to return or to socialism from the Russian specifics if you have already returned to capitalism from the Russian specifics?
  44. +2
    20 September 2021 11: 56
    Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan
    At the same time, because of the communists, we lost part of the territory and lost in the First World War, although we could have become the winners.

    More precisely, monarch-capitalism lost the war and the communists took power and saved it.
    1. -3
      20 September 2021 11: 59
      Quote: Kostadinov
      More precisely, monarch capitalism lost the war

      Truth? And what was it?
      1. +1
        20 September 2021 12: 52
        Do you even need to explain this? That Nicholas II and the Provisional Government, de facto, lost in the First World War, that you, the external and internal enemies of the Bolsheviks, lost in the Civil War, unleashed by you in order to return what was before the October Revolution.
        1. -3
          20 September 2021 13: 28
          Quote: tatra
          That Nicholas II and the Provisional Government, de facto, lost

          Do you even know that the VM appeared because the king was overthrown?
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 14: 54
            What a stupid question ?
            1. -1
              20 September 2021 15: 43
              So it is unknown?
      2. +3
        20 September 2021 13: 44
        It consisted in the fact that by October 1917 there was practically nothing left of the Russian army, and before that the army had disintegrated and the tsar abdicated the throne.
        1. -1
          20 September 2021 15: 44
          Quote: Kostadinov
          Was that

          Before the February coup, there was no talk of any defeat, but when the revolutions began, everything fell apart.
    2. +4
      20 September 2021 12: 15
      Nicholas II surrendered to the Germans the territories in which more than 20 million of his subjects lived, and abandoned the country and the people, the enemies of the Bolsheviks dismembered Russia into the Civil, which they unleashed together with the interventionists, BUT, from the enemies of the Communists, who always have nothing to do with everything, the communists are always to blame for everything.
      1. -4
        20 September 2021 13: 29
        Quote: tatra
        Nicholas II surrendered to the Germans the territories in which more than 20 million of his subjects lived

        How many millions were occupied in 1941?
        1. +2
          20 September 2021 13: 55
          Quote: Dart2027
          How many millions were occupied in 1941?

          The tsarist army, which did not have heavy artillery, was incapable of attacking the Germans without incurring incomparably heavy losses. The Red Army had plenty of artillery and aircraft and tanks. When at the end of 1942 the Red Army learned how to fight, and the United States and Great Britain delivered oil refining equipment to the USSR and began to supply gasoline, which was simultaneously transported by at least 10 railway cisterns, the Germans had to start a continuous retreat. And in the event of the victory of the Entente, the General Staffs of England and France, together with the Socialist Socialist-Revolutionaries and Pilsudski, according to the testimony of the leader of the Right Socialist-Revolutionaries, planned to begin the dismemberment of Russia. Read in V. Chernov's memoirs how he and the emissary of Pilsudski planned at the beginning of 000 the creation of Poland from sea to sea.
          1. 0
            20 September 2021 15: 46
            Quote: gsev
            The tsarist army, which did not have heavy artillery, was incapable of attacking the Germans without incurring incomparably heavy losses.

            Firstly, by the end of the war, it became much better with weapons, and secondly, the tsar did not need to attack. Why not? And because the main meat grinder was in the west and the RI army was required to generally sit in the trenches, well, and beat the Turks with the Austrians.
            Quote: gsev
            And in the event of the victory of the Entente, the General Staffs of England and France, together with the Socialist SRs and Pilsudski, according to the leader of the Right SRs

            And that the SRs ruled Russia?
            1. -1
              21 September 2021 03: 54
              Quote: Dart2027
              And that the SRs ruled Russia?

              They planned to take power. Chernov and later Pilsudski succeeded in these plans. Pilsudski, through the lips of his emissary, demanded from Chernov everything he wanted after the world war. Chernov's memoirs are quite interesting.
              1. 0
                21 September 2021 07: 08
                Quote: gsev
                They planned to take power.

                The question is whether they could, otherwise you can promise a lot.
  45. -1
    20 September 2021 12: 13
    Quote: Kuroneko
    What's the mess with "New People"? Who are, what is the platform? = _ =

    Putin needs a liberal opposition. Yabloko, by the statement of its leader G. Yavlinsky, about the desire to give up the Crimea and the Kuriles, put itself in a marginal position and lost voters. The growing number of voters for the Communist Party forces them to pursue a more leftist policy, which the current leadership does not want to do.
    1. 0
      20 September 2021 12: 40
      New people are the same spoiler as the Communists of Russia, Fair Russia, Motherland and other extras, whose only task is to break the protest electorate.
      1. -1
        21 September 2021 03: 57
        Quote: Adagka
        whose task is one to break the protest electorate.

        The concept of a protest electorate is vague. It is unlikely that the communists will support the surrender of Crimea. It is unlikely that Yabloko will prefer Zyuganov to Nabiullina. Both party functionaries and voters of these parties.
  46. +4
    20 September 2021 12: 13
    The circus left - the clowns stayed. Hope was the last to die. Very sorry. There are still 5 years of bans from the "mad printer" ahead. Forward to feudalism!
  47. 0
    20 September 2021 12: 26
    about the fact that everything is decided and everything is falsified, this is complete nonsense, which broadcasts power from every iron. I myself spent 3 days in the commission from the Communist Party of the Russian Federation and everything is perfectly visible - Friday, morning, state employees, the military, in general, the mobilized electorate of the party in power, for whom they vote, I hope there is no need to explain, in a friendly formation - the contingent is completely different , but there are practically no young people, on Sunday retirees, the electorate, where Zyuganov, smelling of naphthalene, is still driving on full autopilot. As a result, the result is a turnout in the region of 42%, of which about 40% are edro, about 20% of the Communist Party, then almost 20% (surprise) Fair Russia. consider everything according to the procedure as spelled out in 67 FZ with full control of the process, no stuffing, dead souls, for which jackdaws are put and there is no cheating. Yes, they don’t need it, all the authorities need is the lowest possible turnout, so day and night people are hammered into their heads that they don’t need to walk, everything is decided.
    Nothing has been decided, but to get results you need to work, the Communist Party has potential, but it is simply poured down the toilet, there is absolutely no work with the electorate. On the example of his district - Fair Russia - Starikov came, coordinated the meeting, gathered people. From the Communist Party, not a HORSE.
    The final result is almost equal votes for the Communist Party and the SR. Youth is a resource that is absolutely not used by anyone, well, as an unused resource - rather, it is neutralized by the authorities by the constant “you don’t need to walk, everything has been decided for us, they will still consider it as needed”.
  48. +1
    20 September 2021 13: 19
    Quote: Revival
    Well, what can we say, the people deserve what they have, I hope the retirement age will be raised to 80, and all state employees will be transferred to the ministry, the country needs to be raised, their belts tightened

    absolutely true statement, the people who once in 5 years do not want to raise their w .... and come, express an opinion no longer deserves.
  49. 0
    20 September 2021 13: 49
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: tatra
    Nicholas II surrendered to the Germans the territories in which more than 20 million of his subjects lived

    How many millions were occupied in 1941?

    In 1941 he worked, the army fought and fought the war. In 1917, he did not work, the army disintegrated and the commander fled.
    1. -1
      20 September 2021 15: 47
      Quote: Kostadinov
      In 1917

      traitors displaced the commander and destroyed everything one hundred can, and then they themselves were displaced.
      Quote: Kostadinov
      If the supreme commander defends himself is incapable

      From traitors? Likewise, Stalin's death raises many questions.
  50. +1
    20 September 2021 13: 52
    Quote: Dart2027
    Quote: tatra
    That Nicholas II and the Provisional Government, de facto, lost

    Do you even know that the VM appeared because the king was overthrown?

    If the supreme commander-in-chief defends himself is incapable of how he will defend the country and win the war?
  51. +1
    20 September 2021 13: 57
    Quote: Kot_Kuzya
    Well, for how beautifully he wrested Crimea from Bendera and the mattress makers, we can forgive him a lot.

    For Crimea and Donbass, glory and bow to him to the ground, but for the fact that he lost Ukraine to those very Bendera people and mattress makers...?
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  53. NSV
    0
    20 September 2021 15: 27
    Elections for three days!!! Prize draws..... Let's play democracy!!!!
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  56. +1
    20 September 2021 17: 49
    If only these “communists” would be the first to be put up against the wall.
  57. 0
    20 September 2021 19: 53
    Why can’t we replace Putin, and if suddenly he’s gone, then Russia will end. Well, they prayed for Stalin and his death prevented the USSR from developing. Under the USSR, Putin managed to get into the KGB, in modern realities, with a single mother, Putin could finish university, enrolling in a military school starts at 200 thousand, and joining the FSB is even more expensive. We should have a president for the country, not a country for the president .
  58. +1
    20 September 2021 19: 54
    Where would I put Koba Putin?
  59. +1
    20 September 2021 21: 49
    The news has just been posted on the RT website in Russian.
    “A very difficult victory was won” https://russian.rt.com/sport/news/908...
    And a photo of Lev Leshchenko (for some reason I can’t insert it).
    And of course, comments immediately appeared:
    Over common sense?
    We know our “heroes” by sight
    What, the Nazis were defeated again? Will Victory Day be sung?

    Now what are we talking about? By clicking on the link I read
    People's Artist and Dynamo Moscow fan Lev Leshchenko commented on the team's victory over FC Sochi (1:0) in the eighth round match of the Russian Premier League (RPL).

    No, do you understand?!! We are talking about football, but the employees of the protest bot farm (I don’t know if they are liberals or communists) didn’t even bother to read what it was all about!!!
  60. 0
    21 September 2021 07: 06
    Quote: gsev
    The USSR purchased grain for the production of milk, meat and butter

    To do this, there was no need to purchase quite expensive durum wheat grain. Although, if you look at it, in the West and especially on the American continent, there were practically no other varieties (forage). During the USSR, purchased hard grains were mixed with our, predominantly soft varieties, which by that time, for unknown reasons, had become the main ones, and bread was baked from a mixture of such grains, ours and imported. Because our soft grains made bad bread.
    So, if you look at it, it turns out that "In the USSR they bought grain to produce bread, and used their own grain to produce milk, meat and butter."
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  62. 0
    21 September 2021 09: 26
    Quote: Adagka
    Friday, morning, state employees, military personnel, in general, the mobilized electorate of the party in power, are marching in a friendly formation during working hours; I hope there is no need to explain for whom they vote.

    And yet, for example, when I “moved in formation” and was even responsible for the turnout of my subordinates, I voted as I pleased. Although, for example, in the last presidential election, for some reason my personal choice completely coincided with the recommendations from above. hi
    When they demanded that I take photographs of the ballots (this happened once, too), then my employees later confessed: “I put a tick in the right place, took a photo and sent it to the organizational people. And then I checked the boxes in another 2-3 cells." Well, or something like this.
    There was no such thing at the federal level. The boss, in general, was and remains a communist at heart and asked, if possible, to vote for the Communist Party of the Russian Federation. But he asked, but in no case ordered.
    There are still big doubts about these elections in parts of Moscow. Well, it can’t be that all night yesterday and somewhere until 12:00 - 13:00 at a number of polling stations in Moscow, opposition candidates were “ahead of the group of candidates from Sobyanin,” and all night and morning the gap was growing not in favor of candidates from authorities, the gap widened to its maximum by lunchtime, and then... boom, and everywhere the candidates supported by Sobyanin “won.” negative
    1. 0
      21 September 2021 11: 17
      Absolutely agree!
      When I was at police school, I also went to vote in formation.
      During the formation before leaving, we were told that it would be more correct to vote for this guy, comrade cadets!
      But no one stood over their heads in the voting booth and looked at where you put the daw there.
  63. 0
    21 September 2021 16: 04
    It’s high time to send Uncle Zyu to a well-deserved rest.
    Maybe then the Communist Party of the Russian Federation will collect more votes.
  64. -1
    21 September 2021 23: 28
    in Russia this party confidently ranks second


    in the USSR this party occupied one place for 70 years, the first, after which the country successfully ceased to exist