Kiev warned of the risk of losing several more regions of Ukraine

Ukraine's withdrawal from the Minsk agreements could lead to the loss of six more regions. This is the conclusion reached by the former Deputy Minister for the Temporarily Occupied Territories of Ukraine Georgy Tuka.

In his interview with the Ukrainian "Observer" Tuka said that Kiev's withdrawal from the Minsk agreements could become a "trigger" for the formation of six more regions of "people's republics" like Donetsk and Luhansk with a simultaneous secession from Ukraine.

According to him, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions are quite ready for separation. This can happen if the country's authorities continue to pursue an unprepared withdrawal from the Minsk agreements, which is where everything is going now. However, the country's leadership "is far from understanding these threats," Tuka said.

The ex-deputy minister is sure that Kiev needs to withdraw from the agreements on Donbass, but it needs to be done in a different way, for example, by increasing the defense capability of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, but Kiev is unlikely to dare to do this, he said.

Meanwhile, Kiev has a plan to return the territories of Donbass by military means. This was told by the adviser to the head of the office of the President of Ukraine Oleksiy Arestovich. According to him, at present no one knows how Donbass will be "de-occupied", but no one excludes the military option. At the same time, an offensive in Donbass will be possible only under force majeure circumstances, when Russia "will not have time for it."

Comments

[VORON538]

What nonsense are these ministers with non-Slavic surnames talking about? He is hinting that the Ukrovermacht lacks weapons and needs even more money to be able to steal more? Or will Ukraine fall apart? And Moscow needs these territories ??? as well as in the near future.

[Avior]

Not ministers, but former ministers

former deputy minister

The key word here is “former”.
The nuance that changes everything.

[kytx]

I totally agree

[svp67]

Quote: VORON538

What kind of nonsense are these ministers with non-Slavic names talking about?

He is working out his place ... and his surname is quite Slavic, most likely Polish

[Yuriy71]

They called you from Moscow and said that she "does not need these territories?" From which booth and from which number, give me the number, I want to clarify!

[orlandoche]

Rather, they called from the ward, from where he was released due to a misunderstanding

[private person]

They called you from Moscow and said that she "does not need these territories?"

The person simply expressed his point of view. But you tell me why Moscow needs these lands?

[Xlor]

Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions

Quite good territories ...

[VORON538]

The Far East is not good for anything?

[Orange bigg]

Quote: Xlor

Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions

Quite good territories ...

Everything is already planned for the campaign, who will get what.

https://zapytaj.onet.pl/Category/014,004/2,29872838,Czy_Polska_powinna_zerwac_stosunki_dyplomatyczne_z_Ukraina.html

[Tamparu]

As if the Odessa region on the map was painted a little incorrectly. The fact that, allegedly under the Romanians, will never work. The main population of this territory is Gagauz and Bulgarians. Do they need it? Yes, and Odessa-mother, judging by the map, remains under the UN, or what? Disorder ...

[Orange bigg]

Quote: TampaRU

As if the Odessa region on the map was painted a little incorrectly. The fact that, allegedly under the Romanians, will never work. The main population of this territory is Gagauz and Bulgarians. Do they need it? Yes, and Odessa-mother, judging by the map, remains under the UN, or what? Disorder ...

And who is going to ask them whether they need it or not? Romanians during the Second World War during the occupation of Odessa did they ask the citizens of Odessa what they want?

[Tamparu]

But here you have to ask, believe me, I know ...))

[Orange bigg]

Quote: TampaRU

But here you have to ask, believe me, I know ...))

What can civilians oppose the army?

.Romanian warriors badly coped with the sword of a warrior. But they perfectly mastered the gendarme's foot and the knife of a robber from the high road. This quality of the Romanian army was invariably distinguished throughout the war. Its path across our land is marked by rampant robberies, destruction, killings, violence and incredible atrocities against civilians in the temporarily occupied Soviet territories. In these cases, Romanian soldiers and officers showed themselves to be worthy partners of the German cannibals.

Immediately after entering Bessarabia, the Romanian invaders began mass reprisals against employees of Soviet institutions. Trying to squeeze all the juices out of the population, the invaders began to strangle the peasants with taxes. They took the bread and took it to Romania and Germany. In Odessa, Romanians seized residents indiscriminately and threw them into prisons and camps. Innocent people were taken out of the city and shot there in whole parties.

The Romanian soldier Banu Ion, captured by the Red Army, said: “From October 1941 to February 1942, I served in the Romanian police in Odessa. During all this time, mass arrests and executions of civilians were carried out. The executions took place at night. Every night they took out 5-6 trucks, 20 or more people on each ”.

In the Odessa catacombs, the Romanians managed to capture a group of Soviet people. They were all shot. At the end of 1941, to intimidate the population of Odessa, the Romanians hung people right on the streets of the city. Atrocities and robberies in the occupied areas were carried out by order of the High Command of Romania.

The captured Romanian corporal of the 13th cavalry regiment Branzan Constantin showed:


“The Romanian command issued an official order on the extermination of the population in the settlements captured by the Romanian troops, which was carried out after the occupation of villages and towns. Second Lieutenant Ginku Marius always told his soldiers that they were allowed to take from the local population those items that the soldiers would need. This right was widely used by our soldiers. Ginka Marius himself systematically raped Russian women. "

The ad'utant of the 1st division of the 6th artillery regiment, junior lieutenant of the Romanian army Brashevan Radion, captured by our units, said:

"In September 1942, the order of the commander of the 9th cavalry division, Colonel Kiric, was announced to us to shoot as many Russians as possible without any mercy."

https://0gnev.livejournal.com/1502957.html

[Tamparu]

Let's not confuse the righteous with the sinful, shall we?
In 1941, the Romanians did not take Odessa-mother, they were, for the most part, in the train. Ours fought against the Germans. When the Germans, after long torment, took it, the control was transferred to the Romanians. That is, when? When the Germans did their dirty work. The Romanians would not have had the courage to take Odessa by themselves !!!! Especially now !!! Any decision that will involve the transfer of territory or part of the territory to the Republic of Romania will cause a sharp negative reaction from the local population and, believe me, knowing the nature of this local population, Romanians will never go there themselves. Never!!! Unless, of course, someone helps them. They are weak on the "front". They only eat hominy and drink wine. Fighting is not about them !!!
Something like that, Dear ...

[opuonmed]

2016) article

[Igor Ushakov]

However, the Poles have appetites, in addition to three regions of Galicia (Lvov, Ternopil, Ivano-Frankivsk), 5 more want. And Odessa was not "given" to Russia!

[barclay]

Good for what? What to raise them? Russia has enough of its own undisturbed territories. Let them be independent, neutral and with independent economic development. This is quite enough for Russia.

[fruc]

There is no empty place. There will be no Russia. there will be someone else., possibly aggressive and incapable of negotiation. But such a scenario with disintegration is not yet realistic.

[Retvizan 8]

If it were not for the betrayal of the local elite, Kharkiv and Dnipropetrovsk regions should have separated from Ukraine back in 2014.

[Xnumx vis]

Quote: Xlor

Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions

Quite good territories ...

Lands of historical Novorossiya. Created by Potemkin, Catherine the Great and our People. Novorossiysk province and Novorossiysko-Bessarabskoe general-governorship. According to the administrative-territorial division of the beginning of the XNUMXth century, Novorossia in the narrow sense included the Kherson, Yekaterinoslav and Tauride provinces, in the wider - also the Bessarabian province, the Kuban region, the Black Sea and Stavropol provinces, the Don Cossack Region. The name "Novorossiya" was used at the beginning of the XNUMXth century. Then the communists were the days of the Ukrainian SSR. Rather, they would have returned to the big Russia!

[Incvizitor]

Quite suitable territories

Only the fauna there is so pretty ...

[prior]

"Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions are quite ready for separation. "

Well, what are we waiting for ?!
Zhytomyr, Vinnytsia, Kirovograd, Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy - get ready.

[VORON538]

What will you do with those people who consider themselves citizens of Ukraine and will fight for their beliefs (and there will be many of them, this is not Crimea with a pro-Russian population)? Are they waiting for you there? We, no, I don’t know about you. I agree. that these are the lost territories of the Russian Empire, but it is not realistic to return them like that.

[prior]

And you don't need to do anything with them. They themselves are ready to secede from the fascist regime. They will form their own Little Russia and will cooperate. Or is the LDNR a burden to you?

[VORON538]

LDNR-started for health but how did they end-another Transnistria is next in turn. You did not answer the question, what to do with the millions of people who believe that Ukraine is at war with Russia and will fight against Russia. Why do you need these territories? Go scratch him to our Far East, otherwise we have an outflow of the population.

[prior]

Those who believe that Ukraine is at war with Russia, and we will populate the Far East. I have experience.
And there are no superfluous territories, otherwise you would have been citizens of the PRC for a long time.

[isv000]

Quote: prior

Those who believe that Ukraine is at war with Russia, and we will populate the Far East. I have experience.

Good topic! And that is, in Europe, those who want to go back, but live in the Crimea! And you still have to earn it, suffer ...

[El Chuvachino]

Kindergarten.

[VORON538]

We do not need these horses in the Far East. As for Ukraine, a submachine gun in hand and forward, you can grab your battle sofa! It is known for certain that sofa warriors are the best warriors in the world :))) A sort of berserkers :)))

[SKVichyakow]

There will be no resistance. Since the people in these regions do not have any nationalistic convictions. And whoever has, they will run away in the same way as they fled from Mariupol in a column, overtaking each other.

[VORON538]

Your awareness of these issues is striking. You need to go to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces urgently. And then there, apparently, incorrect information about the adjacent territory :))) Do not forget your combat sofa. During "h" it will be useful to you! :)))

[Glory to Berkut]

Quote: VORON538

What will you do with those people who consider themselves citizens of Ukraine and will fight for their beliefs (and there will be many of them, this is not Crimea with a pro-Russian population)

That is, you admit that the Crimeans voluntarily expressed a desire to become part of Russia, and Crimea was not annexed? That the sanctions are intended to punish the Crimeans for their democratic choice?

[VORON538]

Show me my comment, where would I say the opposite?

[fruc]

Such "odious" ones are everywhere, children of former Bandera supporters and those who have joined them, an aggressive, screaming minority. They were there always and everywhere, only before (in the Ukrainian SSR) they did not want to be noticed and were even appointed to responsible positions in the leadership. In the end, get the result.

[Chervony Biker]

I was also tormented by this question for a long time ... Just three months of broadcasting adequate television and other propaganda and information channels will do their job. Add to this - who and how much stole from the post-Maidan "leaders". And after that, perhaps they will not begin to applaud the new device, but they will definitely not regret the lost "national power". Today the people of Ukraine are intoxicated precisely by the shameless manipulations from TV screens, brainwashing and the atmosphere of fear. Take it away and see for yourself how it will be transformed. Give people jobs in the field with decent wages. Better yet! It is easy for Russia itself to return to the socialist path of development. And then those wishing to come back and join very soon will line up

[tihonmarine]

Quote: prior

Zhytomyr, Vinnytsia, Kirovograd, Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy - get ready.

And Poltavskaya is nearby.

[prior]

I was afraid to miss someone, but I did.
Well, we also wait for Poltava residents, well, as without them, without the Sorochinskaya fair and the famous dumplings with cherries.

[isv000]

Quote: prior

Well, we are also waiting for Poltava residents, well, how can we do without them

All through the polygraph!

[fruc]

Do you want a Bandera barrel and a bullet in the back by accident?

[Chervony Biker]

Ordinary people for the most part are very influenced by politics and simply want a more well-fed life for themselves and their loved ones. And they, in general, do not care how it happens. By washing a Polish toilet or building a road in your area. The latter is preferable for the majority, all other things being equal. And for any Bandera there is a hawk. Provided that people gained more from the changes than they lost.

[isv000]

Quote: prior

Zhytomyr, Vinnytsia, Kirovograd, Kiev, Chernigov, Sumy - get ready.

Kukuev is not necessary - a lost place. The whole story ...

[prior]

Without black, there would be no white. Everything in the world is in contrasts.
Kukuev. You hear something so dear ..
Let it be. Nobody is perfect.
All kinds of mothers are needed, different mothers are important ...

[isv000]

Ok, I'm sold..

[Fungus]

The southeast of Ukraine will go to Russia this is a matter of time. Our people are there and they are against the Nazis.

[isv000]

Quote: Fungus

The southeast of Ukraine will go to Russia this is a matter of time. Our people are there and they are against the Nazis.

With the departure of the South-East, the American ambassador will leave Kukuev, and the neighbors will tear the cold body ...

[Sands Careers General]

Kiev warned of the risk of losing several more regions of Ukraine

We read the correct message to "Western partners" - "Give me a penny, otherwise we will give it back"))

[Nafanya from the sofa]

However, the country's leadership "is far from understanding these threats," Tuka said.

Kicked out into retirement - so he immediately began to speak sensible speeches. Only now "in the execution" all ukrofuehrer speak and do exclusively through the anus.

[nikvic46]

But if Donetsk and Lugansk were socialist republics, then not six regions would have joined, but all of Ukraine.

[Cat]

But if Donetsk and Lugansk were socialist republics, then not six regions would have joined, but all of Ukraine

What about Russia?

[Chervony Biker]

Gold words. Socialism and what is behind it is completely inevitable. This is very noticeable in old Europe. On many points in this same Germany there is already more socialism than there was in the Union. It is different, sometimes it is even unnecessary, but the trend is obvious

[rotmistr60]

the country's leadership is "far from understanding these threats"

The country's leadership does not understand anything at all. The general dreams of driving a tank along the Arbat, Kuleba threatens to expose the conditions of the United States and bend Europe, Zelensky passes off a trip to Washington as a great change, another figure declares that they are not begging, but demanding their own ... They live in a virtual world, but with confidence, that everyone owes and owes them.

[Andrea]

You can go out, but Minsk-3 will no longer exist, but will be like in South Ossetia.
Figs to you, not a small victorious war.

[position]

Run to Lviv "hospoda" Bandera, otherwise it will be too late .. There is nothing to plunder in Ukraine, and you have a lot of people who want to live on US handouts, but you do not succeed
Soon the pipe will be closed and then it will surely begin

[rocket757]

Kiev warned of the risk of losing several more regions of Ukraine

So they themselves are to blame, but they will squeal differently, obviously.

[cniza]

Good time!

They want to panic, but they have to work and work very hard ...

[rocket757]

Welcome
There are a lot of cheered up, spiritualized, too many have become ... it will not end well, especially for them.

[cniza]

That's just the point, they are not carried in a childish way, they are already beginning to teach everyone ...

[rocket757]

So then on the upper ones, from there, everyone, except for the same fucking ones, spat ..
but their masses were infected, their brains were completely shaken.
This is already a national disaster.
For us, as their neighbors, this is also not ice and for a long time, it seems.

[cniza]

For us, this is just the biggest problematic complex, it can only be changed in a radical way ...

[Basarev]

No, there will be no more areas leaving the composition. What is there to talk about when even the bits of Donetsk and Luhansk cannot come to an agreement with each other, cannot recapture the lost lands? And the example of Odessa is remembered too well. It is much more likely that the DLNR is in its final days.

[Chervony Biker]

If you pull out a certain time period from the general course and development of events. It's kind of like you're right. But we understand that nothing is over yet. And the point is not in the Republics and how they "failed", but in Ukraine itself. Having received the best starting positions in everything 30 years ago, where are you today? Even the ideas of nationalism were fortunately implemented so disastrously and even caricatured! That today is causing rejection in the westernmost regions of Ukraine.

[yfast]

Quote: Pozicia

Run to Lviv "hospoda" Bandera, otherwise it will be too late .. There is nothing to plunder in Ukraine, and you have a lot of people who want to live on US handouts, but you do not succeed
Soon the pipe will be closed and then it will surely begin

Take off your rose-colored glasses, they are the highest race there, they can kill a sympathizer and nothing will happen to them. And, unfortunately, the pipe will not be blocked.

[Maikcg]

Who is the last to leave Ukraine - that and the debts.

[isv000]

At the same time, an offensive in Donbass will be possible only under force majeure circumstances, when Russia "will not have time for it."

Even if Russia will have a lot of time, then in this case there will always be a hundred Calibers for cooling the Armed Forces of Ukraine, and then the militias will figure it out themselves, leave Lviv as it is or rename it ...

[alystan]

This is his position as a minister without a portfolio - to manage non-existent or those who are ready to join such territories. Or at least remind yourself that you are busy with business.
His surname is notable - Knock-knock, who's there, it's me, a nonexistent minister ...

[Nikolay Sayenko]

the dancing on the Maidan continues ... the smoke is a veil, so that the hand that is rummaging through the pockets of Svidomo and each surprise "and sho?"

[cniza]

According to him, Kharkiv, Dnepropetrovsk, Zaporozhye, Nikolaev, Kherson and Odessa regions are quite ready for separation.

Not a complete list, far from complete ...

[opuonmed]

Ukraine to take into the Russian Federation and the government of Ukraine to hang for the genocide of its people, that's all!

[Leonidych]

Even if they come out of the Minsk agreements, nothing will happen. As they shot, they will shoot. Until they begin a large-scale offensive, there will be no response. And they won't start.

[Dizel200]

How annoying you are. Who needs you?

[Andrei Nikolaevich]

A completely normal state could have turned out. And with access to the sea ..

[Incvizitor]

"Ukraine" has nothing to lose, it has no country, no regions, it has been a colony since 2014 and nothing belongs to it there, so there is nothing to lose.

[Evil 55]

Well, everything "got through" Tuka .. Now the Junta will snatch him as an "agent of the Kremlin" and a hidden separatist ..

[Black cowl]

Quote: private person

They called you from Moscow and said that she "does not need these territories?"

The person simply expressed his point of view. But you tell me why Moscow needs these lands?

Firstly, these are Russian lands.
Secondly, these are quite industrial regions, despite the efforts of the Ukrainian authorities to destroy everything.

[aleks700]

"Ukraine's withdrawal from the Minsk agreements may lead to the loss of six more regions"
Hurry up.

[shinobi]

I look at all this and for some reason I remember a bearded anecdote (from the times of the USSR) about a herd of cows and two bulls on a hill, old and young.

[TermNachTer]

It is possible to formulate the idea more simply and more precisely - which of the regions wants to remain part of this impoverished, squalid territory? I think only kuevskaya)))

[AB]

God! Save Russia from 6 more regions of Ukraine. Only such freeloaders in Russia are not enough, with their own, already adopted, to sort it out. Syria alone costs so much.

[Metallurg_2]

Why do the rudiments of reason appear only among former politicians?

[Sovok_Jiv]

Quote: VORON538

And Moscow needs these territories ??? At the moment, no, as in the near future.

So there is still a war going on there?