A. I. Solzhenitsyn. Inarticulate graphomaniac with a "speaking" surname

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A. I. Solzhenitsyn. Inarticulate graphomaniac with a "speaking" surname
Scarecrow of Solzhenitsyn, hung at the gates of the museum stories Gulaga

On October 8, 2016, an event took place in Moscow, which almost all mass media of "free" Russia cowardly kept silent about. At the gates of the Moscow Museum of the History of the Gulag, two young activists of the RKSM (b) hanged a scarecrow of Alexander Solzhenitsyn. Attached to the scarecrow was a plaque with an inscription in which Solzhenitsyn was called “primary enemy","who lied to us about the Gulag", And it was claimed that he"sneered at the truth". In 2015, a plaque with the words "Traitor" was hung on the monument to Solzhenitsyn in Vladivostok.

In December 2018, Putin inaugurated a monument to Solzhenitsyn in Moscow. On Solzhenitsyn Street, into which in 2008 the Bolshaya Kommunisticheskaya was renamed in violation of the law: at that time, less than 10 years had passed since the date of his death. Two days later, a plaque with the inscription "Judas" appeared on this sculpture, and a police squad was placed near the monument. In June 2019, 4 letters were rubbed to shine on the pedestal of this monument, so that the word "liar" began to stand out.




These incidents, which the Russian authorities are trying not to advertise and "not notice", are indicators that the people are tired of the incomprehensible hypocrisy of the current rulers of Russia. Who speak beautiful and correct words, but at the same time open all kinds of "Yeltsin-centers", finance the "Gaidar Forums" and include in the school curriculum the completely false works of a talentless graphomaniac declared a "great writer" and almost a "classic of Russian literature." The same one who wrote about the Great Patriotic War in his multi-page libel "The Gulag Archipelago":

“The Germans were humane not only towards prisoners of war. They brought great benefits to the entire population in the occupied regions. The Germans, firstly, amazed the population with their courtesy and gallantry. Secondly, someone annoyingly repeats that on the occupied land they set up extermination camps, opened crematoria and the like - this is nonsense, in fact they were opening something completely different ... The Germans came and began to open churches. Thirdly, the Germans created conditions for the realization of their peculiar abilities and ambitious hopes for some energetic and active people languishing in obscurity. "

Look at a photo of one of these "energetic" people:


This is the former policeman Alex Lyuty (Yukhnovsky Alexander Ivanovich). In Kadievka (Stakhanov, Luhansk Oblast), he realized his “peculiar abilities” by personally dumping local residents suspected of having links with partisans into mine pits. After the war, he was hiding under the name of Mironenko. Was identified by accidentally surviving Vera Kravets, who at the time of the "execution" was 12 years old.

And how do you like this pearl of Alexander Isaich:

“So what if the Germans won? There was a portrait with a mustache; they would hang with a mustache. Everything and business! "

I forgot to add: "and would drink Bavarian beer."

Well, Stalingrad, according to Solzhenitsyn, was defended, of course, by penal battalions and companies, which this forger called “cement the foundation of the Stalingrad victory».

Marshal V.I. Chuikov, one of the main characters of Stalingrad, wrote with indignation:

“How could you, Solzhenitsyn, come to such blasphemy in order to slander those who stood to death and defeated death ?! ... You, Solzhenitsyn, dared to scoff at these heroes, pouring out streams of lies and filth on them. I repeat again: during the Stalingrad epic, there were no penal companies or other penal units in the Soviet Army. Among the Stalingrad fighters there was not a single penalty box fighter. On behalf of the Stalingrad people who were alive and died in battle, on behalf of their fathers and mothers, wives and children, I accuse you, A. Solzhenitsyn, as a dishonorable liar and a slanderer against the heroes of Stalingrad, against our army and our people. "

Literary Vlasov


The Archipelago also contains the following lines:

“The camp for Soviet prisoners of war near Kharkov was a very well-fed camp, among the commandants of the camps there were downright humane patrons, for example, our soldier, who was a pianist by his pre-war profession, was captured, and what? In captivity, a German major, the commandant of the camp, took pity on him - he helped him start giving concerts. "

Have you spattered with oil yet? Tears of affection did not flow?

By the way, the well-known traitor A. Vlasov wrote about the same in his Manifesto of April 12, 1943, addressing the Red Army men:

“False propaganda seeks to intimidate you with the horrors of the German camps and executions. Millions of prisoners can confirm the opposite. "

So it was quite rightly called in the USSR Solzhenitsyn “literary Vlasov».

Hero of the Soviet Union Vladimir Karpov wrote to Solzhenitsyn:

“Yes, there were traitors in the war. Cowardice, the insignificance of their souls, pushed them into a dirty deed. But there are traitors in peacetime too - it's you, Sakharov and Solzhenitsyn! Today you are shooting your compatriots in the back. "

Solzhenitsyn's widow, N. Svetlova, even in 2010 showed adherence to principles, announcing on September 10 at the presentation of the first batch of the school edition of the Archipelago:

“The material about the heroes of Russia - the Vlasovites has been removed from the book. It takes several decades for the people of Russia to come to the understanding that they were real patriots of their country. "

I really hope that we will never see such “patriots of Russia”.

A graphomaniac declared to be a great writer


At the same time, all these, if I may say so, Solzhenitsyn's opuses are written in an absolutely terrible, sloppy, incredibly heavy syllable, his language is archaic and smelled of mothballs. For me personally, reading his books literally “scratches my brain”. Therefore, now, in the process of working on this article, I simply grit my teeth, being forced to turn again to the clumsy lines of the works of this incompetent graphomaniac.

Former US Ambassador to the USSR D. Beam also wrote about Solzhenitsyn's lack of the slightest literary talent:

“The first versions of his manuscripts were a voluminous, long-winded raw mass that needed to be organized into an intelligible whole ... they abounded with vulgarisms and incomprehensible places. They needed to be edited, and we assigned the appropriate people from the special services to this very important case for us. "

The Russian émigré, writer and literary critic NI Ulyanov noticed this work of American "literary blacks". He writes in the newspaper "New Russian Word" (August 1, 1971):

“Solzhenitsyn's works are not written with one pen. They bear the traces of the works of many people of different writing tastes and backgrounds, different intellectual levels and different specialties. "

The same picture, by the way, is observed in the case of Viktor Rezun, who brazenly appropriated the pseudonym "Suvorov": anti-Soviet opuses published on his behalf were written by different people, it is simply striking and visible to the naked eye.

And here is how the same "Gulag Archipelago" Karel Yezdinsky, an employee of the Czechoslovak edition of the radio station "Free Europe", assessed:

"Literary nonsense of the first category, but anti-communist directed, and therefore valuable."

As the philosopher, writer and publicist A. Zinoviev once said (deprived of Soviet citizenship in 1978 and revised his views after the collapse of the USSR):

"They were aiming for communism, but ended up in Russia."

Now tell me, do not the lines of the government telegram sent to his widow in 2008 on the occasion of Solzhenitsyn's death seem to you mocking?

“The whole life of Alexander Isaevich was given to the Fatherland. He served him as a true citizen and patriot, and with all his heart he was rooting for the fate of the Russian people, for the just order of the country. "

"A simple Soviet prisoner, his comrade is the Bryansk gray wolf"


The circumstances of Solzhenitsyn's arrest are mysterious and incomprehensible. Out of the blue, he suddenly writes a number of letters from the front in which he openly insults the Supreme Commander-in-Chief (Stalin), informs about plans to found an underground organization "Society of True Leninists", invites his correspondents to organize themselves into conspiratorial "fives". Is he an idiot? Doesn't he know that all letters from the front (in all armies, not only in the Soviet one) are being checked out? He knows very well. And he understands that any counterintelligence, even Soviet, even Polish, even British (and so on), will come for the author of such a letter. So he wants to be arrested? And why?

The point is probably that they decided to transfer Solzhenitsyn to the front line. Yes, you heard right: the "frontline artilleryman" Solzhenitsyn actually fought in the rear - in the position of commander of a sound reconnaissance battery. That is, it was about 3-5 kilometers from the front line and tried to determine their coordinates by the sound of enemy guns. Childhood friends - K. Simonyan and L. Yezherets called Solzhenitsyn the most cowardly person of all whom they saw. And they put forward a version of "moral self-shooting."

When Solzhenitsyn found out that right now, at the very end of the war, he might have to actually shoot at the German tanks, he may have just decided to "sit out with the special officers." This, by the way, suggests that the Red Army men were not too afraid of these very special officers. Solzhenitsyn himself later admitted that the real condemnation came as an unpleasant surprise to him: he believed that he would not be jailed for such "nonsense" - after all, there was no information constituting a state secret in his letters. But, thanks to "cooperation with the investigation," he received a relatively mild sentence: 8 years in camps without confiscation of property. At the same time, he was released already in 1952.

The investigation into the Solzhenitsyn case lasted only 9 days. During this time, he wrote denunciations of his friends, acquaintances, and even his wife, who, not knowing about it, carried him parcels to the Lubyanka and Butyrka prison.

The Czechoslovak journalist Rzezac Tomas in his book "The Spiral of Treason of Solzhenitsyn" tells about a conversation that he had with an investigator who was in charge of the case of the future Nobel laureate. He said that Solzhenitsyn belonged to the type of "soft-bodied" persons under investigation,

“Which are given directly into your hands. In addition to the truth, they also expound their conjectures, just to thank you ... For me it was simply incredible - how you can slander the closest people like that! "

Nikolai Vitkevich, a childhood friend of Solzhenitsyn (he cut his fingers with a knife and swore in friendship on blood), was sentenced to 10 years on his denunciation. He was amazed when the investigator gave him the testimony of a former "friend" to read:

“When, in the process of rehabilitation, they showed me Solzhenitsyn's denunciation, it was the most terrible day in my life ... government, the evil ink of Stalin ... I could not believe my eyes ... And imagine! - they contained denunciations about his wife Natalia Reshetovskaya, and about our friends Shurik Kagan and Lydia Ezherets. K. Simonyan also miraculously escaped arrest. "


Childhood friends: Alexander Solzhenitsyn, Kirill Simonyan, Natalya Reshetovskaya (Solzhenitsyn's first wife), Nikolai Vitkevich, Lydia Ezherets

KS Simonyan, a famous surgeon, professor, doctor in charge of Academician Landau, recalled the summons to the state security investigator in 1952. He asked him to give explanations on Solzhenitsyn's denunciation:

“I began to read and felt the hair on my head begin to move ... These fifty-two pages described the history of my family, our friendships at school and beyond. At the same time, on each page it was proved that from childhood I was allegedly anti-Soviet, spiritually and politically corrupting my friends and especially Sanya Solzhenitsyn, incited him to anti-Stalinist activity. "

At the end of the conversation, Simonyan asked the investigator:

"Tell me, why did Solzhenitsyn do this just before the end of his sentence?"

The answer was as follows:

«He's just a trash man. "

And who inspires sympathy here? The cowardly "fighter against the regime" AI Solzhenitsyn, who slandered his wife and friends? Or a "bloody Chekist" who quickly figured out this matter and released the unjustly slandered surgeon?

It is not surprising that Simonyan later spoke very impartially about this dissident. And Solzhenitsyn answered him with hypocritical regret in the Gulag Archipelago:

“Oh, it’s a pity you weren’t jailed then! How much have you lost! "

No comments. There are no words.

In the future, Solzhenitsyn will demonstrate his cowardice more than once. By his own admission, he was recruited into "snitches" and received the pseudonym "Vetrov". Innocently explains to readers:

“It's scary how: winter, blizzards and going to the Arctic. And here I am settled, sleep dry, warm and even linen. In Moscow, my wife comes to see me, carries programs ... Where to go, why go, if you can stay? "

In one of his letters, Solzhenitsyn reports on the conditions of detention in the central political prison:

“Ah, what a sweet life! Chess, books, box-spring beds, down pillows, solid mattresses, shiny linoleum, clean linen. I had forgotten long ago that I also slept like this before the war. Shabby parquet floor. Almost four steps can be taken in a walk from window to door. No, seriously, this central political prison is a real resort. And here grenades do not burst, guns do not rumble. "

The version of Solzhenitsyn's "moral self-shooting" put forward by K. Simonyan and L. Yezherets is confirmed.

But how well Aleksandr Isaevich settled down in the “terrible gulag” then: he sleeps warmly and dryly, he is provided with linen, plays chess, reads books. And the wife slandered by him regularly carries parcels. And in "Sharashka Marfino" - in addition to rations, a pound of white bread every day and butter in addition, any books from the Lenin library, playing volleyball, free use of the radio, work in the specialty in an acoustic laboratory. The prisoner Solzhenitsyn relaxed and became so impudent that he began to be rude to his superiors. Therefore, they sent him to the Ekibastuz camp, where he did not live in poverty either: having offered the services of an informer to the administration, he first received the position of a foreman, and then became a librarian.

Lev Nikolayevich Gumilev wrote the book "Hunnu" in the library of the Karaganda camp, and while in the hospital of the Omsk camp - the work "Ancient Turks", on the basis of which he later defended his doctoral dissertation. Librarian Solzhenitsyn collected rumors and gossip. For example, such:

“They say (again someone tells him!) That in December 1928 on Krasnaya Gorka (Karelia) the prisoners were left to spend the night in the forest as punishment (they did not complete the lesson) and 150 people froze to death. This is an ordinary Solovetsky technique, you will not doubt it. "

Do you need to comment on this bike? Or is everything clear? If the guards had missed at least one person in the morning, everyone would have gone to court. This is what, really, you will not doubt.

But our pseudo-classic continues to rave:

"On the Kem-Ukhtinsky tract near the town of Kut, in February 1929, a company of prisoners, about 100 people, were driven to the fire for failure to comply with the norm, and they were burned."

Fear of open fire is an unconditional instinct, and it is impossible to get around it. Once in front of a wall of flame, people forget even about the fear of heights and jump from balconies or roofs of multi-storey buildings.

Do you feel the difference between the two camp librarians: Gumilev and Solzhenitsyn?

I must say that among real prisoners Solzhenitsyn's tales caused two reactions: one half - laughter, the other - anger with obscenities. Varlam Shalamov, for example, belonged to the second category. And he wrote:

"I consider Solzhenitsyn to be a person who is not worthy to touch on such an issue as Kolyma."

Only Russian liberal intellectuals (sincerely, out of stupidity) and foreign curators (on duty) trusted Solzhenitsyn.

But the informer Solzhenitsyn-Vetrov did one good deed in the Ekibastuz camp: he informed the leadership about the preparation of the uprising of Western Ukrainian nationalists. True, for selfish reasons: I learned that the first thing the Bandera men would do with the informers identified. So he wrote at the end of his denunciation:

“I would like to remind you once again regarding my request to protect me from the reprisals of criminals who have recently been pestering me with suspicious inquiries.
Winds
20.1.52. "

Pay attention to the date? 1952, in which Solzhenitsyn was released early from prison. The Gulag appreciated his efforts. At first, they were carefully placed in the infirmary so that other prisoners would not strangle or stab at night, then they were transferred to another camp, and from there almost immediately - "to freedom with a clear conscience."

After "many years of continuous suffering" in the camps, Solzhenitsyn lived for 89 years. And most of the real front-line soldiers did not live to see 70.

During my school years, I still managed to listen to the stories of real front-line soldiers who survived all these terrible years. These were my relatives, their friends and acquaintances, neighbors. And do you know what caught my eye? They knew nothing about the "Stalinist repressions"! Can you imagine that? At night, it means that "funnels" drive around, "Stalin's satraps" grab people indiscriminately, and colleagues, relatives, neighbors of these "innocent victims" do not notice anything?

During family holidays, after drinking, the front-line soldiers sometimes recalled Khrushchev's notorious report. From these stories it followed that the reaction of society to Khrushchev's fabrications was shock. People did not know that, it turns out, all these years they lived in a "police state" in which "half of the population sat, half - guarded." One of these old men, in a fit of frankness, said that he then went to the district committee and threw his party card in the face of the first secretary. Explaining that he was doing this because Khrushchev, as it were, to put it mildly, "slandered the Party." The secretary remained silent (apparently, he completely agreed with him) and no organizational conclusions, and even more so no repressions followed: they were not fired from work, they were not removed from the queue for an apartment, vouchers to the sanatorium were given every year, and so on.

By the way, during my entire life I saw only one person, whose parents were exiled under Stalin - in the 90s he was given benefits, and he "went king." At the same time, the people who knew him whispered that his grandfather was a real fist and a world eater.

"The book that deceived the whole world"


Many dissidents (both in Russia and abroad) at first did not accept the Gulag Archipelago and considered this book harmful to their movement. The reason was the monstrous falsifications and fabrications, which, it seemed, could not be believed by any person. Alas, they believed it, albeit for a while. But now the second and almost official name of this dirty libel on the USSR is "The Book That Deceived the Whole World."

Solzhenitsyn did not have access to archives and documents. He collected gossip, rumors, camp folklore. Information about "Pecherlag", for example, he received "accidentally from a prisoner who had access to them at that time". "Super reliable" source, isn't it?

But I also added a lot on my own. As a result, Varlam Shalamov, who at first told Solzhenitsyn a lot about his life in the camps, sharply changed his attitude towards him and gave the following order:

"I forbid the writer Solzhenitsyn and everyone who has the same thoughts with him to get acquainted with my archive."

Solzhenitsyn publicly called on US presidents to put pressure on the USSR and the socialist countries. And Varlam Shalamov wrote:

"Both the West and America do not care about our problems, and the West does not solve them."

Do you feel the difference between a decent person and a traitor?

But what about Solzhenitsyn's facts and figures?

After the release of Archipelago, the leaders of the Central Archive, through the magazine Knowledge to the People, mockingly turned to Solzhenitsyn:

“Come to Moscow. The documents are waiting for you. "

Naturally, there was no answer.

In 1941, according to Solzhenitsyn, “we had 15 millionth camps».

In the same second volume of The Archipelago, he writes:

"The victims of the Stalinist repressions were 66,7 million people."

And in an interview that Solzhenitsyn gave in 1976 on Spanish television, he, apparently forgetting about this figure, already speaks of 110 million "victims of socialism." In the same interview, he praised the recently deceased dictator Franco and warned the Spaniards against democratic change.

By the way, Joseph Goebbels, for all his shameless impudence, spoke of only 14 million repressed in the USSR. Poor dilettante! How far is he from our "Judas" Alexander Isaevich!

Meanwhile, the commission for the rehabilitation of victims of political repression, created during the years of Perestroika by a member of the Gorbachev Politburo Yakovlev, has determined the exact numbers. It turned out that during the entire existence of Soviet power, from 1919 to 1990, 3 786 094 people were convicted under political articles, of which 642 980 people were shot. Moreover, 90% of these arrests and executions fell on two years - 1937 and 1938. At the time, the NKVD was headed by the pederast Nikolai Yezhov, suffering from an inferiority complex. The dwarf's head was spinning from the power that fell on him. To get rid of him, he had to call in Moscow a man who least of all wanted to work in the NKVD system and dreamed of a career as an engineer and builder. And his name was Lavrenty Beria.

By the way, the famous 58th article had 14 points. Only three of them were "political" (like "counter-revolutionary agitation"). The rest are espionage, terrorism, banditry, and so on. So not all those convicted under this article "suffered for jokes."

Despite all efforts, only about 800 thousand people managed to rehabilitate Yakovlev's commission: the rest (almost three million) were justly convicted and no grounds for rehabilitation were found.

At the time of Stalin's death, in March 1953, there were 2 people in prisons and camps. Political - 526 402 (221%). Many of them at that time were SS men from the Baltic states and Western Ukraine, Vlasovites and policemen. In addition, their ranks were constantly replenished with animal-like "green brothers" from the Baltic states (the plot lines of the famous film "Nobody Wanted to Die", even in Lithuania, no one disputed) and natural-born sadistic Bandera from Western Ukraine. There were 435 8,76 people convicted of espionage among the "political" people, 9 617 for terror, 8 893 for sabotage. There were 3 780 convicted nationalists.

Bandera, "green brothers", former policemen, as a rule, received six years of exile (just!). And only if there was one hundred percent evidence of their participation in war crimes and massacres of civilians, they were sentenced to 10 years in camps. Here they were waited for by a fully paid nine-hour working day, a work book, a full social package and, it is not clear from what fright, the Khrushchev amnesty for the tenth anniversary of Victory in 1955. More than 20 OUN members then returned to Western Ukraine alone.

Yu Nersesov wrote:

“Solzhenitsyn ... lied constantly. According to the certificate "Information about the evicted kulaks in 1930-1931", prepared by the department for special settlers of the Main Directorate of the camps, not 15 million were exiled, but 1 803 392 people (including the wives and children of the exiled) ... from Germany prisoners of war and civilians. Of the 4 Soviet citizens repatriated from Germany in 199-488, only 1945 people were arrested ... But 1946 people, that is, most of those who were officially convicted of serving in the pro-Hitler armed formations or civilian the occupation administration, received 272 years of exile. The same verdict was passed on 687 servicemen of the collaborationist units captured by the American-British allies and repatriated to the USSR on November 148, 079. And of the 6 Soviet prisoners of war released in 9-907, only 6 people were arrested and another 1944 were sent to penal units. "

Another monstrous lie of Solzhenitsyn is the statement about mass repressions in Leningrad:

“It is believed that a quarter of Leningrad was cleared in 1934-35. Let this assessment be refuted by the one who possesses the exact figure and gives it. "

That is, 650 thousand people were allegedly arrested in two years. The city should have simply become depopulated. According to official figures, 93% of those arrested in the USSR were men. Thus, if we accept Solzhenitsyn's data, only 250 thousand able-bodied men should have remained in Leningrad. Who then worked at the numerous factories and factories of Leningrad, on the railways and at municipal enterprises? And who joined the people's militia en masse after the start of the Great Patriotic War?

Let's now see what proportion were prisoners in the USSR, calculated per 100 thousand of the population. In the 1930s. (in the midst of the terror) in Soviet prisons and camps there were on average 583 convicts per 100 population. In "democratic" Russia in 000-1992. - 2002 prisoners per 647 population. In the "superdemocratic" USA in the same period - on average 100 people per 000 thousand of the population. Either there were no massive repressions in the USSR in the 626s, or even more large-scale repressions were carried out in the 100s of the XX century in Yeltsin's Russia and in the United States.

For what terms were political prisoners in the USSR sentenced? Apparently for at least 10 years? It turns out that in 1936 42,2% of them were sentenced to a term of up to 5 years, 50,7% received a term of 5-10 years. Until 1937, the 10-year term was the maximum.

And what about the death rate in the "Stalinist camps"? Solzhenitsyn, without batting an eye, claimed: 1% of all prisoners per day died (!).

“They say (again they say - who says where and when?) That in the first winter, from 1931 to 1932, one hundred thousand and died out - as much as was constantly on the channel (Belomorsko-Baltic). Why not believe it? "

Indeed, why not believe the liar Solzhenitsyn - on condition that reading his libel will be imbecile.

In fact, the death rate in the camps in peacetime did not exceed the national average. The usual ration of prisoners corresponded to that of civilian workers, and the ration of the penalty box was five times higher than the Leningrad blockade norm of ordinary male workers.

Now appreciate the following passage from Solzhenitsyn:

“When we, steamed, sweaty meat, were kneaded and pushed into funnels, we shouted to the guards from the depths:“ Wait, you bastards! Truman will be on you! They will throw an atomic bomb on your head! " And the guards were cowardly silent. "

In this place, one recalls the lines about Moscow from Brodsky's disgusting (in every sense) poem "Performance":

"The best view of this city is if you get into a bomber."

And the epigram of Valeria Vyushkina:

“No, the scoundrel did not care at all!
After all, Hitler for him is a hero of the bourgeois will!
His anti-Soviet nonsense is held at school!
Solzhenitsyn the liar is full of sins!
Vermont scumbag, impudent all more,
He appealed to Reagan: “Socialism until
Will you tolerate ?! Moscow is time for a long time
Bomb like Hiroshima! Sorry for the bomb, or what?! .. "

This refers to the speech of Solzhenitsyn, shown in the film "The Price of Peace and Freedom", which was created by order of the American "Committee on the Existing Danger" (1978). Solzhenitsyn says there about our country:

“The world's evil, hateful to humanity, is being concentrated. And it is determined to destroy your system. Should we expect it to hit your border with a crowbar and that American youth will have to die on the borders of your continent? "

That is, there was still a veiled call to strike at the USSR.

In general, all this, of course, is ridiculous: the coward and informer Solzhenitsyn threatens the guards. He is not afraid to receive cuffs from them, or an increase in the term for a political statement. And in addition, he is well aware of the secret "Atomic Project", as well as the plans of US President Truman.

Solzhenitsyn's exaggerated figures on the number of prisoners in Kolyma, where “9 months winter - rest summer”, And not only prisoners, but all goods and supplies are brought once a year - to navigation. And until now, the population is regulated by the ability to really feed it.

In conclusion of this short story, let me remind you: on September 9, 2009, by order of the Minister of Education and Science of the Russian Federation A. Fursenko, the thoroughly deceitful anti-Soviet and anti-Russian libel of Solzhenitsyn "The Gulag Archipelago" was included in the school curriculum.


At an age when children really want to love their homeland, teachers of modern Russia are forced to make them read stupid and terrible tales about the "evil empire."


A symbol of this ideological sabotage against future generations, and the attitude of the Russian authorities to the opinion of the overwhelming majority of the country's citizens, can probably be called this recent "gift" to Muscovites, which can be seen on Bolotnaya Square:

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  1. +34
    21 September 2021 05: 19
    The fact that Solzh was a man-shit is understandable, but only a writer-shit could write such clumsy lines.
    “The world's evil, hateful to humanity, is being concentrated. And it is determined to destroy your system. Should we expect it to hit your border with a crowbar and that American youth will have to die on the borders of your continent? "
    1. +52
      21 September 2021 05: 21
      what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...
      1. +39
        21 September 2021 05: 34
        Literary Vlasov
        And in life Vlasov and a traitor!
        1. +34
          21 September 2021 06: 01
          hi I completely agree, Vladimir!
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          Literary Vlasov
          And in life Vlasov and a traitor!
          there is an interesting phrase in the article ---
          .... The people are tired of incomprehensible hypocrisy. .....
          very understandable hypocrisy. It is the praises and the monument that show who the current rulers support.
          1. +31
            21 September 2021 07: 36
            Solzhenitsyn's widow:

            “The material about the heroes of Russia - the Vlasovites has been removed from the book. It takes several decades for the people of Russia to came to understand the fact that they were real patriots of their country. "

            Some already came to understand... You probably heard how recently, at the celebration of the Russian flag day, one official went into a rage and said:

            ... “We value and respect the Russian tricolor. It was under it that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers went on the attack during the great Patriotic war, the defenders of the country in other hot spots were doing their sacred duty, "Sitnikov said
            1. +12
              21 September 2021 07: 54
              Quote: Stas157
              .......... Probably heard, as recently at the celebration of the day of the flag of Russia, one official went into a rage and said:

              ... “We value and respect the Russian tricolor. It was under it that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers went on the attack during the great Patriotic war, the defenders of the country in other hot spots were doing their sacred duty, "Sitnikov said

              One official? Probably not one.
              (And they also say that Russia is a young country ....... there are some stories on the network, about 30 years ...)
              And there is an article by Shpakovsky, autumn 2016, just that this flag was on the White Guard armored train. Maybe there were the ancestors of this official. ??
              And there was also an article (I forgot whose, unfortunately), Denikin against the background of this flag.
              1. +33
                21 September 2021 08: 58

                The cult of praising the "victims of Stalinism" to the detriment of historical truth and the USE to help lies = degradation of the nation's self-consciousness.
                1. +7
                  21 September 2021 13: 24
                  Thank you, I have not heard this speech before.
                  1. +4
                    21 September 2021 14: 46
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    Thank you

                    Please drinks
                    The longer I live, the more I affirm that "self-digging" is a distinctive feature of the nation ...
                    There are plenty of examples in the literature and in life.
                    We cannot live without self-criticism... We just can't, Alexey Maksimovich. Without it, stagnation, decay of the apparatus, the growth of bureaucracy, the undermining of the creative initiative of the working class are inevitable.
                    Stalin, from a letter to A.M. Gorky
                    boldly develop criticism and self-criticism, fight against ostentation and arrogance, reveal shortcomings in work and seek their elimination, report them to the Komsomol bodies, up to the Central Committee of the Komsomol;
                    - Charter of the Komsomol
                    develop criticism and self-criticism, boldly reveal shortcomings and seek their elimination, fight against ostentation, conceit, complacency, parochialism, give a resolute rebuff to any attempts to suppress criticism,
                    - Charter of the CPSU
                    1. -10
                      21 September 2021 18: 08
                      Quote: Serg Koma
                      The longer I live, the more I affirm that "self-digging" is a distinctive feature of the nation ...

                      That is, the Jew Kedmi, for whom Russia is nothing more than a newfound opportunistic feeding trough, at the propaganda gatherings of the Jew Solovyov allows himself to teach Russians historical tolerance in a disgustingly mentoring tone? It's funny, it's funny. Especially the thesis that the French, they say, the revolution "is still great." Although the epithet "great" in combination with "French revolution" is, funny as it may seem, a purely Russian idiom. The French never called their revolution "great". Nda, an old man walks around the Russian buffet, walks. Glad I don't watch this first channel crap.
                      1. +5
                        22 September 2021 05: 39
                        Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                        That is, the Jew Kedmi, for whom Russia is nothing more than a newfound opportunistic feeder

                        Am I talking about the citizens of Israel?
                      2. -9
                        22 September 2021 08: 57
                        Quote: Serg Koma
                        Am I talking about the citizens of Israel?

                        And what is the connection then between the video with the citizen of Israel and the phrase about "self-digging"? Who is digging something? Have you run out of examples of Russians trying to philosophically comprehend their history?
                      3. +6
                        22 September 2021 09: 11
                        Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                        with the attempts of Russians to philosophically comprehend their history?

                        Start with Dostoevsky and Simonov, for example, then maybe you will understand what meaning I put into the word - "self-digging".
                        By the way, you missed the Charters with "self-criticism", they are definitely not from Israel laughing
                2. +11
                  22 September 2021 11: 37
                  And I already said that there is more Russian in Yakov Kedmi than in the current representatives of the government ... Shameful ...
              2. +6
                22 September 2021 09: 01
                What's wrong with Denikin? He did not cooperate with the Germans. With the Americans after the war, yes. Bastard, in general, but did not go down to the level of Vlasov.
                Well, the Vlasovites fought under the Andreevsky flag until 1945, although, of course, there are several photos from Pskov, where a local activist staged a 'flash mob'. Weak sailors, but better to marines, looking in the eyes, to say that they are 'Vlasovites'? ;)
                1. +4
                  22 September 2021 09: 12
                  Quote: Alanart
                  What's wrong with Denikin? He did not cooperate with the Germans. With the Americans after the war, yes. Bastard, in general, but did not go down to the level of Vlasov. .....
                  Yes, it's not about Denikin, but about the flag. Only at first there was a flag, and then Vlasov took it. That's what. Take the time to find that article.
                  1. +2
                    22 September 2021 16: 20
                    And what is wrong with the "Russian" (as in the decree of Emperor Alexander number 3, without quotes, of course), the colors of which, in particular, were recognized by the First Slavic Congress in Prague as "Pan-Slavic colors" and migrated to the flags of most Slavic states?
                    A pitiful bunch of traitors 'remember' him? Nifiga. If you hate everything Russian, say so, they say, I do not like the national flag, I will invent anything. Under the kumach, in places, there were also all sorts of things that were not very worthy. Is this a reason for hanging false stamps? Obviously not.
                    1. 0
                      22 September 2021 16: 49
                      Who put a stamp on it.?
          2. +6
            21 September 2021 08: 54
            very understandable hypocrisy

            Solzhenitsyn was extremely revered by our entire liberal pack at one time, he was a direct "shaker of the regime". And then he wrote one novel - "Two Hundred Years Together" is called, and for this he became extremely condemned by this same liberal pack of ours.
            ))))
        2. +7
          21 September 2021 08: 39
          "and a traitor" I will slightly correct the ideological saboteur. It will be more accurate
        3. +10
          21 September 2021 10: 49
          And this man called himself a believer ... I will quote a comment about the "great Russian writer" Varlam Shalamov, who passed through the camps, cleaner than the Solzhenitsinsky and did not lower himself to his level: "I will not sit down with this bastard at one kilometer from ...".
        4. -2
          21 September 2021 16: 03
          Quote from Uncle Lee
          traitor !

      2. -8
        21 September 2021 05: 36
        Quote: Dead Day
        what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...

        Rather forcedly revered, because Putin cannot sharply reject Yeltsin's priorities, I think and hope so.
        1. +20
          21 September 2021 07: 00
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          after all, Putin cannot sharply reject Yeltsin's priorities, I think and hope so.

          Those. do you think that every year Putin is dragged on a chain with flowers in memory of EBN to honor? belay
          1. -2
            21 September 2021 08: 05
            Quote: Ingvar 72
            Those. do you think that every year Putin is dragged on a chain with flowers in memory of EBN to honor?

            What makes you think that I think so? Can you build a logical chain and bring it up? For example, I can explain why Putin brings flowers in memory of EBN, and of his own free will. Here are just gratitude to EBN, perhaps quite sincere, who appointed Putin as his successor, and Putin's reverence for Solzhenitsyn, moreover, unobvious, very different things.
            1. +7
              21 September 2021 10: 49
              Quote: Vladimir_2U
              Can you build a logical chain and bring it up?

              You said that Putin cannot reject Yeltsin's priorities. He cannot and does not want to - these are two different things. And the ritual laying on of flowers has nothing to do with "cannot".
              And I think that this veneration of the two traitors has the same roots.
              1. 0
                21 September 2021 11: 03
                Quote: Ingvar 72
                You said that Putin cannot reject Yeltsin's priorities.

                Not so, CANNOT REJECT ABSTRACTLY - this means that it can, but not right away. Sorry, but you shouldn't skip the words, they can drastically change the meaning.

                Quote: Ingvar 72
                And I think that this veneration of the two traitors has the same roots.
                And also, in 2018. on the same day, Putin attended the farewell ceremony for Alekseeva. (there was such a madam "human rights activist"). And since then, something has not been heard about the laying of flowers, so this and that is nothing more than a polite.
                1. -2
                  21 September 2021 13: 12
                  Quote: Vladimir_2U
                  Not so, ABSTRACTLY CANNOT REJECT

                  Stop wearing flowers - abruptly ??? belay
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2021 13: 14
                    Quote: Ingvar 72
                    Stop wearing flowers - abruptly ???

                    Give examples of offering flowers to the monument to Solzhu after 2018. About flowers for EBN everything is laid out.
                    1. -3
                      21 September 2021 13: 28
                      Quote: Vladimir_2U
                      About flowers for EBN everything is laid out.

                      Do not jerk or sidetrack. I talked about EBN. And you haven't laid out anything intelligible in colors.
                      1. 0
                        21 September 2021 13: 47
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Do not jerk or sidetrack. I talked about EBN.
                        Start with yourself, otherwise you are a master at throwing away important words and misinterpreting the meaning of comments, and ignore logic and the Russian language. Flowers for the grave of EBN is not Yeltsin's priority, but flowers for the monument to Solzh are quite. Is this logical?

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And you haven't laid out anything intelligible in colors.

                        Well sorry if you didn't get it:
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Here are just gratitude to EBN, perhaps quite sincere, who appointed Putin as his successor
                        then I will explain: Putin simply as a token of gratitude should officially wear flowers to the EBN monument and he officially has no right to consider him a traitor, otherwise the question of the legitimacy of the presidency arises, no matter how in his heart he treats the EBN and whoever actually nominated him. This is elementary logic.

                        I see no confirmation of flowers from Putin Solzhu after 2018
                      2. +2
                        21 September 2021 16: 21
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        I see no confirmation of flowers from Putin Solzhu after 2018

                        Did I promise you this? Or argued that Putin still wears flowers for Solzhenitsyn? Are you confusing me with anyone? wink
                        Let me ask you a counter question - do you have any facts that Putin stopped wearing flowers to Solzhenitsyn?
                      3. -1
                        21 September 2021 16: 55
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Did I promise you this? Or argued that Putin still wears flowers for Solzhenitsyn? Are you confusing me with anyone?

                        These are your words:
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And I think that this veneration of the two traitors has the same roots.
                        We found out that at least one Putin is forced to wear flowers regardless of personal attitude, the second remains, and since your worship is like lamenting flowers, then you have to prove that Putin also wears flowers to him.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        Let me ask you a counter question - do you have any facts that Putin stopped wearing flowers to Solzhenitsyn?

                        An official of the highest rank, for a minute, anonymously carries flowers to the monument? Your task is much easier. Admit that you are trying to get off topic. But if you prove that Putin continues to carry the flowers to Solzhu, then I admit that you are right about Putin's priorities.
                      4. +1
                        21 September 2021 17: 38
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        These are your words:

                        So what? Wore flowers? Wore it.
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        We found out that at least one Putin is forced to wear flowers regardless of personal relationship,
                        You found this out based only on your own conjectures. One business lack of censure, the other flowers for the grave.
                        And about "have to prove" - ​​I don't have to. You are trying to smash two traitors in different directions in order to whitewash the third.
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Your task is much easier. Admit that you are trying to get off topic.

                        I don’t need to attribute the fabrications of your imagination.
                        It is an obvious fact for everyone that Putin has laid flowers to Solzhenitsyn on several occasions. And there is not a single fact proving that he stopped doing it. There is neither censure nor admission that Solzhenitsyn is a liar.
                        If a person has been repeatedly caught stealing, but recently he has not been caught, this does not mean that he has stopped stealing. wink
                      5. +2
                        21 September 2021 17: 59
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You found this out based only on your own conjectures. One business lack of censure, the other flowers for the grave.

                        You do not understand or pretend that you do not understand basic things.

                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Putin simply as a token of gratitude must officially wear flowers to the EBN monument and he officially has no right to consider him a traitor, otherwise the question of the legitimacy of the presidency arises, no matter how in his heart he treats the EBN and whoever actually nominated him.
                        Do you deny that it was EBN who nominated Putin? Do you deny that Putin is grateful to EBN for his nomination? Do you deny that if Putin EBN was a traitor, he would admit his absolute illegitimacy? Deny further.

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        And there is not a single fact proving that he stopped doing it.
                        Those. do you think that Putin (the head of Russia) secretly lays flowers to Solzhu and this is not covered in the media in any way? This is a sign of undoubted adequacy, obviously. And no speculation that you are.
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        It is an obvious fact for everyone that Putin has laid flowers to Solzhenitsyn on several occasions.
                        The obvious fact should somehow be reflected, where is it after 2018?

                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        If a person has been repeatedly caught stealing, but recently he has not been caught, this does not mean that he has stopped stealing.
                        Not that there is no logic here and no common sense. If the values ​​have ceased to disappear, then no one steals. A thief can tie up for moral, economic, family reasons.
                      6. -1
                        27 September 2021 10: 32
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Quote: Ingvar 72
                        You found this out based only on your own conjectures. One business lack of censure, the other flowers for the grave.

                        You do not understand or pretend that you do not understand basic things.

                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Putin simply as a token of gratitude must officially wear flowers to the EBN monument and he officially has no right to consider him a traitor, otherwise the question of the legitimacy of the presidency arises, no matter how in his heart he treats the EBN and whoever actually nominated him.
                        Do you deny that it was EBN who nominated Putin? Do you deny that Putin is grateful to EBN for his nomination? You deny that if Putin EBN was a traitor, he would admit his absolute illegitimacy

                        Brad. Putin is not obliged to consider ebn a traitor, but he can distance himself from him. And he wears flowers not because he owes something, but as the first president of the Russian Federation. And all questions about legitimacy disappeared after the general elections, like all Yanukovych's claims
                      7. -1
                        27 September 2021 10: 43
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        Putin is not obliged to consider eb a traitor

                        Where did I write that he is obliged to consider EBN a traitor? On the contrary, he wrote.

                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        he wears flowers not because he owes something, but as the first president of the Russian Federation
                        Or so, what is the contradiction? He wears flowers to Yeltsin one way or another, but after 2018 he does not wear Solzhu. There is distancing from Solzh.
                        Quote: Pilat2009
                        And all questions about legitimacy were gone after the general election
                        And what, Putin can declare EBN a traitor? That is certainly nonsense.
                      8. 0
                        22 September 2021 02: 01
                        That is, Putin understands what Yeltsin has done, but still carries flowers in his gratitude?
                      9. 0
                        22 September 2021 03: 15
                        Quote: saber
                        That is, Putin understands what Yeltsin has done, but still carries flowers in his gratitude?

                        Brought Putin to power?
                      10. -1
                        22 September 2021 12: 14
                        Of course. Is Putin a hypocrite?
                      11. -1
                        22 September 2021 16: 29
                        Quote: Vladimir_2U
                        Brought Putin to power?
                        Is that the answer to this question?
                        Quote: saber
                        Of course. Is Putin a hypocrite?
            2. +4
              21 September 2021 20: 49
              Putin's reverence for Solzhenitsyn, and not obvious, is very different things.

              If Putin didn’t respect Solzhenitsyn, then this nit would not be in the school curriculum, monuments would not be erected and streets would not be named after the traitor.
              In our country there is not a single monument and street named in honor of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin, under whose leadership our country won the bloodiest war in the history of mankind, but there are a lot of streets and monuments to traitors and executioners. And Putin is directly related to this situation, he has absolute power in the country, and all this is done according to his instructions.
              1. 0
                22 September 2021 03: 16
                Quote: ramzay21
                If Putin didn’t respect Solzhenitsyn, then this nit would not be in the school curriculum, monuments would not be erected and streets would not be named after the traitor.

                In this case, indifference is enough.
              2. 0
                27 September 2021 13: 37
                Quote: ramzay21
                Putin's reverence for Solzhenitsyn, and not obvious, is very different things.

                If Putin didn’t respect Solzhenitsyn, then this nit would not be in the school curriculum, monuments would not be erected and streets would not be named after the traitor.
                In our country there is not a single monument and street named in honor of the Supreme Commander-in-Chief Stalin, under whose leadership our country won the bloodiest war in the history of mankind, but there are a lot of streets and monuments to traitors and executioners. And Putin is directly related to this situation, he has absolute power in the country, and all this is done according to his instructions.

                Do you simply not admit that he did not read his books? But in general, did you think that he has more important things to do than think about the school curriculum or the installation of monuments? The school curriculum is dealt with by the Minister of Education
                1. 0
                  28 September 2021 01: 38
                  Putin is aware of what Solzhenitsyn wrote about and is aware of everything that is happening in our country, and he decides from whom to make a hero and from whom a traitor, and it is he who gives orders to the Minister of Education and the leadership of the media what to cover and how.
                  That is why they erect monuments to Yeltsin and build palaces, name streets in honor of the traitor Solzhenitsyn, erect monuments to him, hang memorial plaques to the SS Gruppenfürrer.
                  Putin likes traitors more because he himself is a traitor and for him betrayal is natural, and this explains everything.
          2. +8
            21 September 2021 08: 59
            "To read the memory of EBN" he is great: he remembers who nominated him. After all, had it not been for EBN, he would not have been promoted.
            There are many who will come forward, and then forget their benefactors: Sablukov patronized KF Ryleev, and then Ryleev robbed his widow.
            Nikita "kukuruznik": during Stalin's lifetime, he thought it was good to see him, and then "he poured all the dogs on him"
            PS. IA Krylov has a good one: "Svenya under the age-old oak" exactly like "the report of the Pospelov commission" at the 20th Congress of the CPSU. Comrades, we recommend: read the fables of I.A.Krylov you will not regret
        2. +3
          21 September 2021 08: 01
          Quote: Vladimir_2U
          harshly reject Yeltsin's priorities Putin can not

          This is a valid excuse !! Maybe all the same doesn't want?
          1. -5
            21 September 2021 08: 07
            Quote: Stas157
            This is a valid excuse !! Or maybe he doesn't want to?

            Are you sure that the justification and the assumption in the form of hope are the same?
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            I think so and hope so.
      3. +1
        21 September 2021 06: 42
        I'm not sure about this: the person may not like Putin.
        Putin the politician knows the concept: "the rules of the game", and they provide: A. I. S do not scold
        1. -1
          21 September 2021 08: 03
          Quote: vladcub
          I'm not sure about this: for a Putin person, perhaps, I do not like.

          Perhaps ... ah perhaps and like it!
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 10: 03
            According to his ideas, I am a devil and it is not given to me to know the thoughts of the "doers"
      4. +11
        21 September 2021 06: 44
        When I was at school, in high school, we decided to introduce the "works" of this character into the extracurricular reading program.
        And I love to read. But he could not master the "syllable" of this, indeed, graphomaniac. I did not master a single story.
        Carried away - they did not ask me later.
        1. +5
          21 September 2021 09: 19
          When I was at school, in high school, they decided to introduce us to the program
          Well, we have not introduced the glory to God yet. But in the year 89 I tried to read it myself. I barely mastered the first volume. even my child's brain understood - "a big bastard rummaged there."
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 20: 23
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            When I was at school ...

            Quote: Region-25.rus
            Well, we have not introduced the glory to God yet. But in the year ...

            I was probably more fortunate: we "this is" did not offer to read at school and the father, who graduated from the branch of the higher party school, with a simple phrase protected from ”This” - I will refrain from quoting, the moderators will not approve.
            I was later interested in it myself, but a special thank you to the author of the article for a very systematic presentation - it will be easier to talk with their foreign colleagues: the generation of 30-year-olds talking about Russia / the Union refer to "this is"oh we will have fun laughing
      5. -17
        21 September 2021 06: 44
        Since Putin respects this, and we all, as one, must respect this!
      6. +13
        21 September 2021 06: 58
        Quote: Dead Day
        what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...

        So he considers EBNa a great reformer, and every year he carries flowers to his grave. bully
        And the article is cool, the author will qualitatively turn inside out all the charm of Solzhenitsyn.
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 08: 14
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          So he considers EBNa a great reformer, and every year he carries flowers to his grave.

          It can't be! You hear? All this is machinations! As well as the palace near Gelendzhik !!!)))
      7. +6
        21 September 2021 08: 47
        Quote: Dead Day
        what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...





        “The Germans were humane not only towards prisoners of war. They brought great benefits to the entire population in the occupied regions. The Germans, firstly, amazed the population with their courtesy and gallantry. Secondly, someone annoyingly repeats that on the occupied land they set up extermination camps, opened crematoria and the like - this is nonsense, in fact they were opening something completely different ... The Germans came and began to open churches. Thirdly, the Germans created conditions for the realization of their peculiar abilities and ambitious hopes for some energetic and active people languishing in obscurity. "
      8. 0
        21 September 2021 11: 18
        Dedkastary - What's so surprising? Here, as they say, "a fisherman, a fisherman ..." - then our President is twice a traitor:
        1. as an officer (KGB) took the oath - not sparing blood and life itself to defend the USSR - betrayed the werewolf, deserted to the enemies of the Union.
        2. As a communist, when joining the party, he probably wrote something like "I want to be in the forefront of the builders of communism ..."
        So the kinship of the traitorous souls (VVP and Solzhenitsin) is obvious. hi
        1. +2
          21 September 2021 14: 07
          There are the majority of such traitors here. And they took the oath, and were communists ...
      9. -4
        21 September 2021 13: 39
        this scum, very revered by our president ...

        What difference does it make to you?
        Do you have your own opinion, or is it always just against GDP?
        And if VVP did NOT read Solzhenitsyn, would you extol this graphomaniac?

        I was not too lazy and read almost all of his books.
        Well, just a very mediocre hack. The cancer building is still nothing - the rest is in the trash.
      10. -3
        21 September 2021 15: 59
        Quote: Dead Day
        what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...

        Zelensky?
      11. +3
        21 September 2021 17: 49
        Quote: Dead Day
        what are you ... how can you ... this scum, very revered by our president ...

        So they are the same, vilify the USSR, which does not prevent them from trading and using what that country has created.
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      13. +1
        22 September 2021 19: 54
        Sakharov was casually noted in the article, and this is the second pair to the boot.
    2. -8
      21 September 2021 06: 13
      I do not really understand the idea of ​​the author of the article to once again write obvious things about Solzhenitsyn! In principle, no one needs him for a long time (which is surprising!), Neither the Nashists, nor the liberals, nor the right, nor the left ... Solzhenitsyn, to be objective, is in fact a very ambiguous figure. He dreamed of becoming a prophet in his Fatherland, but it turned out that he didn’t fit anyone today at all, therefore it makes no sense to write so many letters, unless the author wanted to remind us all that such a dude existed on a sinful earth! What can we say about literary creativity, then "The Gulag Archipelago" is an ordinary fantasy that has nothing to do with reality, and this is understood by any sane person, even a minor schoolboy (if the question is correctly posed by the teacher of literature)! Therefore, it should be considered as a fierce utopian fantasy, but "One Day in Ivan Denisovich" or "Matrenin's Dvor" are suitable works by literary standards, probably because Tvardovsky put his hand to the first, and in the second there is nothing from politics and idiotic copyright ideas about the fight against the "bloody" regime! And for example, 10 volumes of "The Red Wheel" (I could only read 5) was written in such an archdiootic, twisted-eyed style that I personally wanted to commit suicide while flipping through the next page! laughing
      1. +2
        21 September 2021 07: 19
        "I could only read 5" many more.
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 07: 44
          I stalled at first .. the style resembles some amateur translations in online libraries ..
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 10: 06
            I didn't take this "wheel" at all
      2. +1
        21 September 2021 08: 25
        Quote: Finches
        "The Gulag Archipelago" is an ordinary fantasy that has nothing to do with reality, and it understands any sane person, even a minor shkolota

        You understand that now you are insulting our president! Who do you think he is? Not sane or something, at the moment when he presented awards to Solzhenitsyn for his work "having nothing to do with reality" ?? I am sure Vladimir Vladimirovich was in full health!

        So Marshal V. I. Chuikov, the hero of Stalingrad, also disagrees with you! He does not consider Solzhenitsyn's works to be harmless nonsense!

        On behalf of the living and dead in battle of Stalingrad, on behalf of their fathers and mothers, wives and children, I accuse you, A. Solzhenitsyn, as a dishonest liar and a slanderer of the heroes of Stalingrad, our army and our people
        1. -4
          21 September 2021 08: 34
          This is a political curtsy towards the lowered ..., liberals, old lane. Duns of dissidents and their younger henchmen at that time and no more. By the way, the author is wrong, there was no violation of the 10-year term. Meadow pushed ahead and changed it before!
          1. +6
            21 September 2021 08: 36
            Quote: Finches
            This is a political curtsy towards the omitted ..., liberals

            Why make them? Is this a cunning plan?
            1. 0
              21 September 2021 08: 39
              Politics, it's a dirty business! To win a motley electorate with different political dislocations of consciousness! Like, democracy!
      3. +6
        21 September 2021 09: 57
        Zyablitsev, I have not read "Ivan Denisovich", but "Matrenin Dvor" made me think: 'The author's surname is the same, but the style is different. So I think: 1) AIS "spioneered" someone. 2) he paid some literary critic to "hew". Again, doubts: the spirit of the AIS is not felt.
        What do you think?
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 10: 30
          This was one of the first stories of Solzhenitsyn, and he always noted that he was based on real events, that is, he had not yet completely sunk into political politics and writhing as a fighter against the regime. There was a storyteller about and did not distort the language!
          1. +6
            21 September 2021 10: 55
            I doubt it: Hegel's moron will not work out.
            Have you watched AIS TV conversations? I looked and noticed that he could not communicate his thoughts.
            1. +1
              21 September 2021 11: 10
              If about "One day ..." Tvardovsky was called a co-author, by the way, it was he who suggested such a name, then there were no particular rumors about "Matrenno childhood". But, you know, it is quite possible that you got a good editor!
              1. 0
                21 September 2021 18: 47
                However, the editor had to work a lot with this creation.
      4. +1
        21 September 2021 10: 24
        Quote: Finches
        "One day of Ivan Denisovich"

        Duc based on it and the film was shot by Panfilov ... Everyone in the world and our liberda are delighted! am
        1. +1
          21 September 2021 10: 57
          Tvardovsky printed it for some reason
          1. 0
            21 September 2021 14: 11
            I typed it until I figured out what the hell this "genius" was ..
    3. -1
      21 September 2021 10: 29
      Just like that, while at school we were forced to read the GULAG archipelago
      1. +2
        21 September 2021 11: 00
        My feelings
        1. +1
          21 September 2021 11: 44
          It was very hard reading
  2. +12
    21 September 2021 05: 26
    the people are tired of the incomprehensible hypocrisy of the current rulers of Russia. Who speak beautiful and correct words, but at the same time open all kinds of "Yeltsin-centers", finance the "Gaidar Forums" and include in the school curriculum completely false works of a talentless graphomaniac
    As the current vote has shown, if the people are tired of the hypocrisy of the authorities, then they are ready to continue to believe in sweet speeches. And do not care that behind these sweet and correct speeches, no correct real deeds are noted. Well, who, tell me, will now remember about the EdRa program of the mid-2012s? Or about the notorious "Putin's plan", about which they broadcast from every iron (however, no one was able to clearly explain what this plan was). The May decrees of the Sun of 2018 have already been erased from the memory. And the May mega-decree-XNUMX is rarely remembered either. And how do you remember here, if all the same faces appear over and over again in the zombie box (more likely, one face, because the others are already starting to feel sick, even the Kremlin political strategists understood this, who removed them from sight), and this face begins to penetrate promise to promise Again and again. How can you not believe him, a person, if Volodin himself said that it, a person, is our main asset?
    1. +2
      21 September 2021 05: 41
      The May decrees have not been erased. But, under their ideology, they create any lewdness. And they hide behind them. This has already become a household name.
    2. -1
      21 September 2021 07: 04
      Quote: Dalny V
      As the current vote has shown, if the people are tired of the hypocrisy of the authorities, then

      The current vote, if anything, showed it only that the authorities did not care about the opinion of the people. With so many violations, this election is completely illegitimate. All (!) Forgers caught by the hand tried to cheat EP votes.
      1. +1
        21 September 2021 14: 12
        do not compose!
  3. +8
    21 September 2021 05: 38
    Zinoviev's phrase is key. For me - the most successful formulation.
    1. +4
      21 September 2021 06: 17
      Good morning Sergey. smile
      Yes, this phrase also "hooked" me, although I only learned about Zinoviev from Valery's article. Somehow fate did not bring me together with the dissidents, they scolded me with the peasants, like many who hold power over a bottle, that is, in fact, all "political" activity.
      1. +2
        21 September 2021 06: 32
        Good morning, Constantine!

        If you choose a description of what happened in the 80s and 90s, you can't imagine better.
      2. +4
        21 September 2021 07: 13
        hi good morning dear! Let me add a little about Zinoviev. He fought, received awards, wrote about the beginning of the Second World War. Just about the fact that they were waiting for the attack of the Germans and were preparing ...
        Immediately he called perestroika KATASTROIKA. I wrote a book about it, .... in 1989 it was published in Munich.
        He immediately said that the West needed the Soviet Union to collapse, so the tagged and drunk are popular ... there are a lot of things about him on the net. And books too.
        1. +14
          21 September 2021 07: 35
          Good morning, Dmitriy! hi
          So he dialed Solzhenitsyn and Zinoviev came out at once.
          1. +2
            21 September 2021 07: 41
            I watched stories with him on the net, though I didn't read a single book, somehow it didn't work out to order ...
            1. +8
              21 September 2021 08: 19
              In large letters in the picture - this is my opinion about him.
        2. +2
          21 September 2021 13: 15
          The union began to fall apart to the marked and drunk
          1. +1
            21 September 2021 13: 27
            Quote: Clever man
            The union began to fall apart to the marked and drunk

            In 1965, the Soviet writer Kochetov wrote a novel warning about the destruction of the USSR. I often remember this (. At the beginning of the century, the novel was reprinted.) And then the writer was able to very accurately predict with the help of what this would happen. The elite immediately understood the danger of the novel. The author was exposed, hounded ...
            1. 0
              21 September 2021 18: 48
              Quote: Reptiloid
              wrote a novel warning about the destruction of the USSR.

              Quote: Reptiloid
              The elite immediately understood the danger of the novel. The author was exposed, hounded ...

              V. Kochetov was a convinced Stalinist, a kind of real communist, and there were such people. And, of course, he understood that after Stalin's death, there was no longer any Soviet power, but there were only Trotskyists and opportunists, the country was sliding into the abyss.
              The novel itself is rather uncomplicated, and in some ways even funny, although it may seem strange, the characters are funny ....... an American from Russians and, in addition, from hereditary prostitutes, who seduced Soviet people (for sabotage purposes) , well and the like.
              They persecuted Vsevolod Anisimovich - liberals, dissidents and the like, the party elite did not approve of the novel, but apparently because of their meagerness.
              1. +1
                21 September 2021 19: 13
                I was surprised at you, Vladimir. Is it really incomprehensible that the team of the destroyers of the USSR is, like, personified qualities, or, in your language, vices that can destroy the country hi embarrassed to ask --- minus you put me?
                1. 0
                  21 September 2021 22: 29
                  I put no cons
                  1. 0
                    21 September 2021 23: 14
                    I thought that in this laughing case ---- not your minus
  4. +9
    21 September 2021 05: 40
    Well, Shalamov, with all his dislike for Isaich, almost surpassed him. He was also shot in whole stages, but on Serpantinnaya the shots rang out for days to the accompaniment of the orchestra.
  5. +15
    21 September 2021 05: 45
    Somehow, about 8-10 years ago, one "aborigine" showed me "the ruins of one of the Stalinist camps, where thousands of innocent convicts died, and they were buried in this field." It is not far from Khurba, a place that the locals call "marimans" until 2000 there was a communications center for organizing communications with submarines, the field "where thousands of prisoners were buried" was an antenna field for communications equipment with submarines. The aborigine took us for visiting people. A couple of Kruzakov and Patriot, not far from the former checkpoint on the bank of the river, where we arrived for the weekend, created an illusion in a person that they were stray tourists. Moreover, "Patriot" at that time in Komsomolsk was rather a foreign car, mine was the fifth. Well, then, the local "SOLZHENITSin", began to try to sell us such a horror story about the fact that we decided to rest in such a place. When he was sent on an erotic journey, he was upset, hoped that they would pour it, they explained to him that these two comrades from Khabarovsk, in the 80s, served in "this camp" R-409, they received food in our warehouse ... So how many such "camps" are there in our country, only such "aboriginal guides" know. Another tale about the Khabarovsk-Komsomolsk-on-Amur railway: "... stands on the bones of convicts." Believe it or not, in connection with the modernization of this road, modern builders have never stumbled upon the remains of "thousands of innocently convicted" who died during the construction of the road ... hi
    1. +9
      21 September 2021 06: 19
      ...... Believe it or not ........ modern builders have never stumbled upon the remains of "thousands of innocently convicted" who died during the construction of the road ....
      hi and not only modern builders did not stumble upon, but also geologists who proceeded on foot throughout the Far East under socialism in the last century.
      Parents since 1975 in geology in the north of the Khabarovsk Territory and north. .... There were stories of older geologists about abandoned railway stations, abandoned villages, some unfinished buildings ... but about the remains of many thousands of people, even from the words, according to other people's stories --- there were no who has memories. These are my mother's words. We left there in 1991.
  6. +5
    21 September 2021 05: 48
    There is a simple truth - when people are sincere, they do not lie, and they do not hypocrite, but the enemies of the communists on the territory of the USSR have their anti-Sovietism, that under the USSR, that in their Perestroika, that in 30 years after the capture of the USSR - total lies, slander, hypocrisy ,double standarts .
    And in their "heroes" and "great people" they are not smart and talented citizens of their country, not those who brought great benefit and glory to their country and people, but traitors, collaborators of the Civil and Great Patriotic War, separatists, criminals of the Soviet and post-Soviet periods , pathological liars and detractors.
  7. +19
    21 September 2021 05: 59
    I will warn you right away: my comment is not related to the topic of the article, it is related to its quality.

    Quote from the article, the appeal of Marshal V.I. Chuikov to A.I. Solzhenitsyn:
    "I repeat again: during the Stalingrad epic, there were no penal companies or other penal units in the Soviet Army. There was not a single penalty box fighter among the Stalingrad fighters."

    "" In the penal units of the 64th Army during the battles near Stalingrad, 1023 people were released from punishment for courage. Among them were awarded: Order of Lenin - 1, World War II degree - 1, Red Star - 17, medals "For Courage" and "For military services" - 134 "." Source: Article on VO:
    https://topwar.ru/16238-v-proryv-idut-shtrafnye-batalony.html

    Quoting the quote in the article:
    The same one who wrote about the Great Patriotic War in his multi-page libel "The Gulag Archipelago": “The Germans were humane not only in relation to prisoners of war. They brought great benefits to the entire population in the occupied regions. The Germans, firstly, amazed the population with their courtesy and gallantry. Secondly, someone annoyingly repeats that on the occupied land they set up extermination camps, opened crematoria and the like - this is nonsense, in fact, they were opening something completely different ... The Germans came and began to open churches. Thirdly, for some energetic and active people, languishing in obscurity, the Germans created conditions for the realization of their peculiar abilities and ambitious hopes.
    ... I looked at the publications available to me - there is no such text there. This is a paragraph from an article about Solzhenitsyn, pieces taken out of the context of the book.
    1. +5
      21 September 2021 06: 55
      Quote: tasha
      The same one who wrote about the Great Patriotic War in his multi-page libel "The Gulag Archipelago"

      I read the Archipelago even in samizdat. There really is no such thing, but a clumsy language, a lot of freshly invented words and the general impression of the author's position ... I wanted to wash my hands.
      1. +3
        21 September 2021 09: 03
        Quote: NDR-791
        I read the Archipelago even in samizdat.

        Likewise. As a student, I read samizdatch, as it should be. The archipelago, of course, including. Not that "the effect of an exploding bomb", but a revelation - yes. And then the Gulag chanson flowed - Ginzburgs-dispersals, Kopelev-Shalamovs and so on. Well, the templates crackled, crackled, and bored - at the age of 20-25 there are things more interesting than this Kolyma horror. And Stalinism of the brain is an age-related disease, adolescence is itself a prophylaxis against this ailment. It's funny that (as usual, however) half of those who yell "Crucify him !!" haven't read the Archipelago. But questions for the cretins who stuck him into the school curriculum still remained, yes.
        1. +4
          21 September 2021 10: 17
          It's funny that (as usual, however) half of those who yell "Crucify him !!" haven't read the Archipelago.
          I have not read it, I have only mastered "In the first circle". Maybe that's why I'm not screaming.
          1. +2
            21 September 2021 13: 03
            Overpowered myself and read-bullshit. A particularly red line in the work of solzha is sexual dissatisfaction. What is remembered belay
            1. +2
              21 September 2021 13: 15
              And I don't even remember what it was about ...
              Alex! hi
              1. +4
                21 September 2021 13: 20
                Good day! there it was about almost everything (Hemingway - if I write a good book, it will be about everything. But it’s not Hemingway not once.) shorts instead of ... a red star. And a couple more mentions of this kind. (I read it back in Latvia for a long time) I was immediately knocked down, offended by the female sex, they didn’t give me enough. Something like this.
                1. +2
                  21 September 2021 13: 24
                  And right after Solzhenitsyn, I got caught by Sanin. There were a lot of impressions!
                  1. +1
                    21 September 2021 13: 26
                    , Sanin got caught
                    I don’t know, didn’t drink sad Now I read almost exclusively English-speaking.
                    1. +2
                      21 September 2021 13: 55
                      Vladimir Sanin is a "Soviet Hayley".
                      1. +2
                        21 September 2021 13: 59
                        We will read it. Is there, in your opinion, a "Soviet Palanyuk"? Erofeev does not channel No.
                      2. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 23
                        In the sense of "Fight Club"?
                      3. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 36
                        Yes, yes. In original-chernukha beauty. I liked the "pygmies" more.
                      4. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 48
                        In fact, apart from the "Club" I have not read anything, and I liked the film more than the book. Perhaps, I will not pick up analogies in the Russian-language literature offhand.
                      5. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 52
                        I highly recommend Pygmy. In the original, generally a class. (by the way, he is Ukrainian). Also, Irwin Welsh (everyone, and especially "Censorship of VO"). There the language will not turn to say - the film is better.
                      6. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 58
                        Thanks, I'll try! True, with the original I have feel
                      7. +2
                        21 September 2021 14: 59
                        I think (but doubt) a good translator will save the day.
                      8. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 04
                        By the way, from the English punk literature Danny King came to me
                      9. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 17
                        Well, I really don’t like counterattacks - they hide the lack of meaning or its complete primitive behind the florid outrageous phrases.
                      10. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 20
                        But for the sake of acquaintance, it makes sense to read, as well as Erofeev.
                      11. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 21
                        Yes, it seems to be already .. 15 years ago. Do not even remember.
                      12. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 23
                        Well, here I am the same way. And, which is typical, there is no desire to refresh the memory.
                      13. +2
                        21 September 2021 15: 25
                        We need to get down to Clive Ponting. Specific, but a historian. Better than Samsonov.
                      14. +1
                        21 September 2021 16: 39
                        I asked about Ponting, there are translations into Russian. I'll finish with Favier and try to read.
                      15. +5
                        21 September 2021 16: 53
                        I'll finish with Favier and try to read.

                        Yeah, finish with Favier, get on with Abbot Prevost! laughing
                        I look, the article is already hyper-discussed, because the subject evokes unpleasant associations, but I can't help but note.
                        Well ... apparently Valery should have written this article. This is his own desire, I look at it as a worthy act. I will not criticize. I think that this scribbler really should not have been introduced into the school curriculum. Sakharov, by the way, does not evoke the best associations in me. negative
                        I read it with interest! hi
                      16. +1
                        21 September 2021 17: 04
                        I think after Favier there will be Ian Mortimer.
                      17. +3
                        21 September 2021 17: 35
                        I think after Favier there will be Ian Mortimer.

                        Which is the Good Doctor with Spaniel from Devonshire?
                      18. +2
                        21 September 2021 18: 23
                        This is the one that: "Medieval England. A Time Traveler's Guide"
      2. +2
        21 September 2021 13: 18
        At the stage they were taken and fed with salted fish, they did not give it to drink) as I remember now
    2. +7
      21 September 2021 08: 14
      not related to the topic of the article, related to its quality

      There is a lot of this in this article, the quality is very lame.
      A significant part of the article is taken from the book of the Czech Tomasz Rzezach "SPIRAL OF CHANGE SOLZHENITSYN", an employee of the Czech special services, a former emigrant, written by order of the 5th Directorate of the KGB of the USSR in the framework of the fight against Solzhenitsyn in 1977
      Here is the book itself translated into Russian
      https://booksonline.com.ua/view.php?book=140544
      and here is information about who Rzezach is
      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Ржезач,_Томаш
      hi
      1. -11
        21 September 2021 12: 03
        Quote: Avior
        There is a lot of this in this article, the quality is very lame.

        The word "quality" is inapplicable to the article: unlike Solzhenitsyn, who wrote in an atmosphere of complete absence of information (everything was completely classified fearing publicity by the authorities), writing articles have a huge array of already open primary sources of DOCUMENTS, but instead of them they choose odious custom-made deliberately false "materials".

        The only benign (false) figures of the convicted are worth something: the article does not even know that several MILLION citizens were exiled, plowed and died WITHOUT any sentences.

        it's funny when, on the one hand, the article condemningly writes about the pederast Yezhov (although this pederast in 1937 visited Stalin 240 times in Stalin's office and spent 370 hours there), on the other hand ... it justifies the 680 thousand executions carried out under his leadership (spies and pr "saboteurs"), although even Yezhov himself admitted that he destroyed innocent people on trumped-up deeds ...
        1. +7
          21 September 2021 15: 34
          Quote: Olgovich
          680 thousand executions carried out under his leadership (spies and other "saboteurs")

          Well, you can’t be so bullshit. 680 thousand are from the Cheka to the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (1917-1956). And more than half of them are malicious criminals who were given a political article to strengthen them (for example, those monsters who killed Pavlik Morozov and his brother were allowed to spend on a political article).
          Including in the Second World War under 200 thousand traitors, deserters, spies and saboteurs.
          And in the course that this is so - and therefore you are not an ignoramus (so you call others names when inaccurate), but a conscious liar and a liar (which is much worse).

          And on the subject, the citizen was rotten, and there is no desire to poke around in the shit.
          1. -6
            21 September 2021 20: 07
            Quote: chenia
            Well, you can’t be so bullshit. 680 thousand is from the Cheka to the KGB and the Ministry of Internal Affairs (1917-1956)

            your ignorance is amazing: finally read PAVLOV'S REFERENCE : for 1937-38, there 680 thousand VMN.

            The bulk of the executions (read order 0047 of the NKVD and further) is August 1397-August 1938, that is, almost 700 thousand CITIZENS.

            For 1936,1935, 1 and so on, they shot about XNUMX thousand a year, that is, an increase of almost ... SEVEN HUNDRED ONCE or on 67900% more in a year! This horror is IMPOSSIBLE to even imagine, and this has never happened in the world, especially in peacetime.
            Quote: chenia
            And in the course that this is so - and therefore not an ignoramus, but a conscious liar and a liar (which is much worse)

            well you said about yourself, commendable.
            Quote: chenia
            And on the subject, the citizen was rotten, and there is no desire to poke around in the shit.

            and where is yours, "rotten", lol a writer with a similar romance about gulagis it?

            What? No?

            When you write, come, yes.
            1. +4
              21 September 2021 20: 14
              Quote: Olgovich
              1938, that is, almost 700 thousand CITIZENS were shot in a year


              Put on glasses, and you will see, and do not indulge in wine (stale and cheap), and you will be happy. And the light will be brought to your village. And holes in the barn. where movies are shown caulk.
              1. -4
                22 September 2021 10: 18
                Quote: chenia
                Put on your glasses and you will see

                nna, hack into your forehead:
                Quote: chenia
                and do not indulge in wine (stale and cheap), and you will be happy.

                and tie the boyar, remember Tolstoy: "drunkenness is voluntary madness"

                What, apparently, explains the ignorance of some OBVIOUS things so far.
                1. +1
                  22 September 2021 14: 48
                  Quote: Olgovich
                  OBVIOUS THINGS


                  As Popandopulo said - "Come. I'll draw you some more."

                  There is an official document (presented to Khrushchev), which determines the number of cited verdicts on the MMP. And for the corresponding period.
                  And, to prove something to you, it is into emptiness.
                  1. -3
                    22 September 2021 15: 16
                    Quote: chenia
                    As Popandopulo said - "Come. I'll draw you some more."

                    well, try it, you are the first who dared, in impotent rage, to challenge its authenticity
                    Quote: chenia
                    "And those who have been sentenced have not been fulfilled yet.

                    There is an official document (presented to Khrushchov), which determines the number of cited verdicts on the HMN

                    NNA, ignoramus, an official document to Khushchev of the official commission of the Central Committee of the CPSU:
                    09 February 1956 year

                    To the Presidium of the Central Committee of the CPSU

                    We are reporting in accordance with your instructions.

                    We have studied the archival documents available at the State Security Committee, which show that the 1935 – 1940 years in our country are years of mass arrests of Soviet citizens.

                    In total, over the years, 1 people were arrested on charges of anti-Soviet activities,x shot 688 503.

                    A particular range of repression took place in 1937 – 38, as can be seen from the following table:

                    shot in 1936 - 1116 people
                    1937 - 353074 people were shot
                    shot in 1938 - 328618 people


                    Have you folded it?
                    Got it? No.

                    PS remember Tolstoy: "Drunkenness is voluntary madness"
                    1. +2
                      22 September 2021 15: 45
                      In February 1954, a certificate was prepared in the name of the First Secretary of the Central Committee of the CPSU N. S. Khrushchev, signed by the Prosecutor General of the USSR R. Rudenko, Minister of Internal Affairs of the USSR S. Kruglov and Minister of Justice of the USSR K. Gorshenin, ... for counter-revolutionary crimes for the period from November 1921, XNUMX through February 1 November 1954, XNUMX
                      ..... sentenced to death 642 980 human, .....

                      if consider. that some of the execution sentences were commuted to imprisonment then ..
                      And this is the main document, the rest does not inspire confidence.
                      Falsification of documents during perestroika was commonplace.
                      1. -5
                        22 September 2021 16: 10
                        Quote: chenia
                        SR K. Gorshenin, .... for counter-revolutionary crimes for the period from 1921 to February 1, 1954
                        ..... come

                        they are all EQUAL, but some considered some articles to be political, others others.

                        Help from Pavlov and the Pospelov commission are true and NOBODY challenged them, you .... first lol
                      2. +1
                        22 September 2021 17: 14
                        Do you dispute
                        Quote: chenia
                        certificate signed by the Prosecutor General of the USSR R. Rudenko, Minister of Internal Affairs of the USSR S. Kruglov and Minister of Justice of the USSR K. Gorshenin


                        You hammered into me that the population of the USSR before the war was 209 million people
                        otherwise, losses of 50 million people are not obtained, and they also waved a similar certificate (which no one denied).

                        Freaky liberoids (and even Moldovan spill). must understand. that numbers and numbers (of a certain process) are always related and dependent. If you increase your losses in GW, your losses from repression and hunger fall. And if the latter increase, the losses from WWII decrease.
                      3. -4
                        23 September 2021 10: 35
                        Quote: chenia
                        Do you dispute
                        Quote: chenia
                        certificate signed by the Prosecutor General of the USSR R. Rudenko, Minister of Internal Affairs of the USSR S. Kruglov and Minister of Justice of the USSR K. Gorshenin

                        in Russian, I see, the inhabitants of the country Uskrus do not understand, ONCE AGAIN:
                        they are all the same, nSome considered some articles political, others others.

                        Help from Pavlov and the Pospelov commission are true and NOBODY challenged them, you .... first
                        Quote: chenia
                        You hammered into me that the population of the USSR before the war wouldwas 209 million.people
                        otherwise losses of 50 million.people do not work, and also waved a similar certificate (which no one denied).

                        Freaky liberoids (and even Moldovan spill). must understand. that numbers and numbers (of a certain process) are always related and dependent. If you increase your losses in GW, your losses from repression and hunger fall. And if the latter increase, the losses from WWII decrease.

                        belay fool lol some kind of incoherent food: which 209 million, which 50, which GW, etc.?

                        We are talking about WHAT, huh?
                      4. 0
                        23 September 2021 11: 20
                        but some considered some articles political, others others.

                        wassat
                        Neither Pavlov nor Rudenko could decide whether the article was political or not, it was for them that the Criminal Code had long been decided. It was only possible to decide in the 30s the CASE goes under Article 58 or not. But this could not affect the compilation of the certificate decades later - there is a case under Article 58, which means it is political and gets there.
    3. 0
      21 September 2021 08: 26
      I looked at the publications available to me - there is no such text there. This is a paragraph from an article about Solzhenitsyn, pieces taken out of the context of the book.

      The whole article is like this.
      Solzhenitsyn will be read. Simply because we have not written anything more ambitious on this topic.
      When Ryzhov gathers 6 volumes of the "true" history of the Gulag, then we will compare.
      But first, it is advisable to sit. laughing
      Well, or keep it. wink
    4. +1
      21 September 2021 08: 58
      Quote: tasha
      I looked at the publications available to me - there is no such text there. This is a paragraph from an article about Solzhenitsyn, pieces taken out of the context of the book.

      Well, well, this is not there ... and Marshal Chuikov, the hero of Stalingrad, told you a lie! How do you yourself feel about Solzhenitsyn? How is our president, considering him a hero, worthy of state awards?
      1. 0
        21 September 2021 09: 06
        How do you yourself feel about Solzhenitsyn?
        Good question. Do you think I can give you a simple and understandable answer? I will try, perhaps. But first I want to clarify - here you are writing: "Well, this is not there ... and Marshal Chuikov, the hero of Stalingrad, told you a lie!" - Expand your thought, please. Vasily Ivanovich did not tell me anything. And why with an exclamation mark?
        1. 0
          21 September 2021 09: 26
          Quote: tasha
          Expand your thought, please. Vasily Ivanovich did not say anything to me... And why with an exclamation mark?

          if you personally didn’t say it doesn’t mean it’s not true. You cited excerpts that refute the veracity of the words of the Marshal, a participant in the Battle of Stalingrad! Why did you do this? On whom do you want to cast a shadow and who to justify? I'm personally I trust Chuikov more than your excerpts.
          1. +4
            21 September 2021 09: 40
            Stas, take it easy, don't accelerate ...
            You cited excerpts that refute the veracity of the words of the Marshal, a participant in the Battle of Stalingrad! Why did you do this? Who do you want to cast a shadow on?
            First of all, I have complaints against the author of the article. You write - so study the material, check yourself and others ... There are doubts - do not write ...
            Unfortunately, the words of V.I. Chuikov, in my opinion, do not correspond to reality. There were penal units in the 64th Army. There are also documents, there are lists of the victims. Why did the marshal write differently? I think you yourself know. Do we need this now?
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              +2
              21 September 2021 12: 48
              Quote: tasha
              There were penal units in the 64th Army.

              Chuikov in Stalingrad from September 1942 commanded the 62nd army. (from April 1943 - 8th Guards)
              Can you specify the period of the 64th Army apparently from July to September 1942?
              1. -2
                21 September 2021 13: 11
                Quote: Thick
                Chuikov in Stalingrad from September 1942 commanded the 62nd army

                67th separate army penal company of the 62nd Army, 8th Guards Army, 5th Shock Army.

                PERMANENT COMPOSITION of the 67th Oashr:

                Ashikhmin Vasily Pakhomovich, b. 1914 Senior lieutenant, political instructor of the 67th Oshr under the 39th Guards. sd. Died 13.12.1942/XNUMX/XNUMX - Stalingrad region., Stalingrad, plant "Red October". Buried - Volgograd Region, Volgograd, Mamayev Kurgan.
                Belyakhin Mikhail Grigorievich, b. 1917 Junior lieutenant, commander of the mortar platoon of the 67th division. pcs. company under the 39th Guards. SD of the 62nd Army. On December 18.12.1942, XNUMX, he was wounded: "... wounded by a bullet in his right hand" near Stalingrad, in the area of ​​the Krasny Oktyabr plant.
                He was awarded the Order of the "Red Star" for military operations on 03.12.1942 by a decree dated 14.04.1945 issued by the Presidium of the USSR Armed Forces.
                Bendersky Konstantin Fedorovich, b. 1915 Lieutenant, commander of a rifle platoon of the 67th division. pcs. companies under the 39th Guards. sd. Died 11.12.1942 - Stalingrad region., Stalingrad, plant "Red October".
                Gritsenko Anton Kuzmich, b. 1918 Guard Senior Lieutenant, Operational Representative of the "Department of Counterintelligence SMERSH" of the 67th Oshr at the 416th Rifle Division of the 32nd Sc of the 5th Shock Army. 122 published by the Armed Forces of the 24.09.1944th Shock Army; the Order of the "Patriotic War II degree" in 5
                Gutkov Ivan Alexandrovich, b. 1916 Junior lieutenant, platoon commander of the 67th oshr of the 62nd Army. Died 11.01.1943/XNUMX/XNUMX - Stalingrad region., Stalingrad, st. Carousel
                .......

                CHRONOLOGY OF BATTLE OPERATIONS 67th Oashr during the Second World War:

                From December 7, 1942 to January 11, 1943, the 67th Oashr fought as part of the 39th Guards. sd (mostly together with the 112th guards. cn) in the area - st. "Karuselnaya" - the area of ​​the "Red October" plant in Stalingrad (now the street "Karuselnaya" is renamed to the street "named after the 39th Guards Division"), then from 4 to 20 December 1942, from the 67th Oshr , with the 112th Guards. joint venture, 121 people were killed, 142 people were wounded, 6 people were "missing", 8 people were shot on the battlefield as "traitors". After the hostilities, on 20.12.1942/67/137, of the 39th oshr, 4 people remained "in the ranks". (see "Photo Album" - "Report" of the command of the 1942th Guards Rifle Division of December XNUMX, XNUMX)
                .
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                  0
                  21 September 2021 14: 07
                  The 67th Oarsh became part of the active (39th Rifle Division of the 62nd Army) army on November 10, when the advance of the "Axis" troops was stopped. It's not about being a colleague.
                  This company practically did not participate in the defense of the Krasny Oktyabr plant; it became part of the 39th Rifle Division only at the time of preparation for the counteroffensive.
                  1. -1
                    21 September 2021 14: 10
                    Quote: Thick
                    It's not about

                    Well yes...it is different.
                    Quote: Thick
                    This company practically did not participate in the defense of the Krasny Oktyabr plant.

                    Quote: Thick
                    then from 4 to 20 December 1942, from the 67th Oshr, with the 112th Guards. joint venture, 121 people were killed, 142 people were wounded, 6 people were “missing”, 8 people were shot on the battlefield as “traitors”. After the hostilities, on 20.12.1942/67/137, of the XNUMXth oshr, XNUMX people remained "in the ranks"

                    And the loss of 2/3 of the composition in a few days happened when catching butterflies
                    1. Fat
                      +2
                      21 September 2021 14: 32
                      Quote: Liam
                      And the loss of 2/3 of the composition in a few days happened when catching butterflies

                      Operation Uranus began on November 19. On the offensive as part of the Stalingrad Front. Is it like catching butterflies?
              2. 0
                21 September 2021 13: 23
                Andrei Borisovich, talking about the Soviet Army and the Battle of Stalingrad. Here LIAM wrote a supplement for the 62nd Army.
          2. +4
            21 September 2021 10: 10
            Quote: Stas157
            If you haven’t told you personally, it doesn’t mean that it’s not true.

            "Chuikov's letter" is a common fake, which Dialogue did not disdain. As for the documents - if you please: Order to the troops of the Stalingrad Front No. 00162 / OP dated August 1, 1942.

            In pursuance of the order of the People's Commissar of Defense Comrade STALIN No. 227 of July 28, 1942, I ORDER:
            1. By 3.8.42, form two front-line penal battalions of 800 people each, where to send middle and senior commanders and relevant political workers who are guilty of violating discipline through cowardice or instability ...
            (hereinafter)
            1. +1
              21 September 2021 10: 19
              "Chuikov's Letter" is a common fake, which Dialogue did not disdain.
              Here, Stas, you see - there it is ... hi The author writes a pretentious article exposing a liar, and he repeats other people's stupidity ...
            2. 0
              21 September 2021 15: 14
              Quote: Ashes of Klaas
              "Chuikov's letter" - plain fake, which "Dialogue" did not disdain.

              Is there any proof? Why do you think so? Have you come up with it yourself?

              Who and why needed to invent Chuikov's letter? What's the point of this? In order to expose Solzhenitsyn, it is not at all necessary to invent any letters. He's already sunk up to his ears.
              1. -2
                21 September 2021 16: 54
                Quote: Stas157
                Who and why needed to invent Chuikov's letter?

                In my opinion, this is obvious, no?
                In the 90s, unscrupulous evidentiary technologies flourished and proliferated. I repeat, he did not disdain "Dialogue" with them, like the others, on both sides. Such is the mode of operandi in the ideological lists. "Chuikov's letter" strangely surfaced 13 years after the death of the marshal, being accidentally and very aptly discovered "in the personal archive." Well, you can excuse the guys who composed it - the archives containing the relevant orders and information were apparently not yet open in 95. Well, okay, as they say - we drove, but today why should we attract a linden tree as a proof, refuted by archival documents?
                Quote: Stas157
                In order to expose Solzhenitsyn, it is not at all necessary to invent any letters.

                To enhance the effect. Do you think this technique is something new? Well, let's say, you unconditionally believe that the quote about "garbage on the grave" belongs to Stalin?
                1. +1
                  21 September 2021 20: 05
                  Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                  To enhance effect... Do you think this technique is something new?

                  Who and what forces needed this very effect? In my own mind, it somehow does not fit. The authorities benefited Solzhenitsin. She is on the sidelines. Who else? There is no one else. Moreover, this is an immoral activity. Decent people will not go for forgery.

                  Once again, there is absolutely no point in denigrating the crow. He's all black anyway. Besides, he has been dead for a long time. Who needs it? Think for yourself.
                  1. 0
                    22 September 2021 09: 03
                    Quote: Stas157
                    Who and what forces needed this very effect?

                    Considering that "Dialogue" was the mouthpiece of the Communists in the 90s, I guess "who needs it?" not difficult.
    5. kig
      0
      26 September 2021 08: 27
      Quote: tasha
      I looked at the publications available to me - there is no such text there

      I also became interested. I downloaded the Archipelago, opened it in a Word and tried to find quotes. By all accounts, it turns out that this long phrase is collected from the text, pulled in different places. And in the original, they make a completely different impression. For example, oh a well-fed camp near Kharkov the original looks like this:

      Back in March 1943, leaflets about the Vlasov movement (imaginary) were read in a prisoner of war camp near Kharkov - and 730 o_f_i_ts_e_r_o_v signed an appeal to join the Russian liberation army - this is with the experience of two full years of war, many are heroes of the Stalingrad battle, among them division commanders , regimental commissars! moreover the camp was very well fedit was not hungry despair that drew them to the signature. (But typical of German stupidity: of the 730 signatories, 722 were never released from the camp and brought into action until the end of the war.)

      Well, the rest is the same. Maybe Ryzhov composed all this himself, or maybe he copied it from somewhere, this is already laziness. In general, the impression ... not that I am a fan of Solzhenitsyn, but, as they say, even an ant can gnaw a dead tiger. And the comments remind an immortal phrase: I have not read this, but I condemn.
  8. +10
    21 September 2021 06: 09
    Good day.
    In Vladivostok, a sign "Judas" was hung on the monument to Sozhenitsyn, not "Traitor." I personally passed by, watched. I think the author just confused in which city which sign was placed.
    And the fact that his works were included in the school curriculum is logical. Included were all those who met him in Vladivostok in 1992, who erected monuments to him, and so on. So everything is logical here
    1. +4
      21 September 2021 06: 27
      Quote: jingibi
      And the fact that his works were included in the school curriculum is logical.

      The only question is, when will he be kicked out of the school curriculum?
      1. +4
        21 September 2021 06: 48
        hi good morning Elena! I went to first grade in 1992. Even then, they immediately began to change the school curriculum, they say. There were "innovations" But "The Story of a Real Man" ---- was read, but I still don't have a lie. There was a lot of religious "gag", which was then removed ...
        What is in the program now, I really don't know ... are there Chekhov, Gorky, Turgenev? I have already had many works for review. , without reading. I read it myself.
        1. +5
          21 September 2021 07: 58
          And Chekhov stayed and Turgenev. Schoolchildren read significantly less.
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 08: 27
            Quote from Korsar4
            And Chekhov stayed and Turgenev. Schoolchildren read significantly less.
            hi realized that Gorky did not stay? I grumbled to myself then when I read, but it’s a pity for the seisas. There was talk that Gorkyi and Chekhov were not for children. It turns out --- a lie for children.
            1. +4
              21 September 2021 08: 31
              I tried to interrogate my schoolchildren before going out. In the online Olympiad, Gorky's "Mother" is mentioned. Probably stayed in the program.
              1. +1
                21 September 2021 08: 54
                Quote from Korsar4
                I tried to interrogate my schoolchildren before going out. In the online Olympiad, Gorky's "Mother" is mentioned. Probably stayed in the program.

                wink Yes, it's cool! "Mother" we had an overview. Some parents were against it. I remember that in the 2nd grade we tried to conduct separate lessons for boys and girls about upbringing ...
                A book with pictures and, it was secrets ... Also, the parents were outraged ...
                1. -1
                  21 September 2021 12: 49
                  Quote: Reptiloid
                  separately for boys and girls about education ...
                  A book with pictures and, it was secrets ... Also, the parents were outraged ...

                  and what exactly were they indignant about?
                  1. 0
                    21 September 2021 12: 59
                    I did not like the pictures with doors for internal organs and the drawing of a pregnant woman with a door on her stomach. Probably, the teachers did not know how to teach this, we laughed all the time laughing ... We ran around the classroom. And the time (.. hours of study) was not enough for other subjects.
          2. +10
            21 September 2021 08: 46
            And Chekhov stayed, and Turgenev.


            And with them - this.
            1. +4
              21 September 2021 08: 51
              There is self-education. When you love what you do. Or what are you learning. The rest will not crash hard.
              1. +4
                21 September 2021 09: 11
                It's good when there is exactly this
                When you love what you do. Or what are you learning.

                Unfortunately, this is not always the case.
              2. -1
                21 September 2021 12: 52
                Quote from Korsar4
                There is self-education. When you love what you do. Or what are you learning. The rest will not crash hard.

                Nonsense. Will crash, how. Didactics is built on this.
                1. 0
                  21 September 2021 15: 35
                  Maybe built. But I had to see high school students, later experiencing disgust for learning. And it was also accompanied by serious mental disorders.
            2. +1
              21 September 2021 10: 08
              Now what to slam from above, so that it does not crawl out negative negative from there never
        2. +2
          21 September 2021 09: 30
          Quote: Reptiloid
          I already had many works in my presence. , without reading. I read it myself.

          We had a terrific vocabulary. His literary elective was, in fact, a literary club. In addition, he was a fair multi-instrumentalist, our recitation evenings were accompanied by classical guitar. And Borchert's Kegelbahn, I remember - to the harmonica - he had a two-row "Veltmeister", his father's trophy.
        3. +3
          21 September 2021 09: 32
          Chekhov, Turgenev, Leskov, Tolstoy, Gorky were in place and Sholokhov remained.
          Young people are also not delighted with Solzhinitsin: they do not want to read now, and even more so that: "Pluck your eye out"
      2. +5
        21 September 2021 06: 56
        Quote: Egoza
        The only question is, when will he be kicked out of the school curriculum?

        Probably when the monuments to Kolchak and Mannerheim are removed
        1. +5
          21 September 2021 09: 27
          NDR, about Kolchak: he was a good naval officer, a polar explorer. An open enemy of the Soviet regime. And such an enemy is better than hidden
          There are two Kolchaks for me: 1 is a brave officer, a polar explorer and I respect him. 2 - fought with weapons in hand for the idea, and ideological ones are worthy of at least understanding.
          It is better than: "changed shoes"
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 10: 00
            Quote: vladcub
            It is better than: "changed shoes"

            I will definitely agree with this.
            Quote: vladcub
            1 is a brave officer, polar explorer and I respect him.

            And with this too.
            Quote: vladcub
            2 - fought with weapons in hand for the idea, and ideological ones are worthy of at least understanding.

            But with this no !!! The ideological will not invite the entire foreign elite of the interventionists to help. Yes, and how many people here in Siberia hanged innocent people ... That's why the current government erects monuments to him, as well as Solzhe.
      3. 0
        21 September 2021 07: 08
        Quote: Egoza
        The only question is, when will he be kicked out of the school curriculum?

        Never Elena. We need a repentant generation, with a guilt complex for the past, not with pride. hi
        1. +2
          21 September 2021 07: 25
          Quote: Ingvar 72
          ....... We need a repentant generation, with a guilt complex for the past, not with pride. hi
          hi yes, someone feels guilty and humiliated because of this, someone is trying to impose this humiliation on others ... judging by some stories, there are those on the net who mock the country's past, hate and lie .. ..
          At the same time, there are words about the inadmissibility of rewriting history ...
          1. +3
            21 September 2021 09: 10
            At the same time, there are words about the inadmissibility of rewriting history ...


            Good day to all previous and subsequent speakers!)))
            Dima, hello!
            The falsification of Soviet history was widely used to justify the illegitimate liquidation of the USSR against the will of the people. Indeed, due to the illegitimacy of the liquidation of the Union, the entire subsequent leadership of Russia is also illegitimate, and it, the leadership, knows this! Hence - all these "exonerators" of crimes such as the Solzhenitsyn.
            I wouldn’t have any complaints. For the situation is historically trivial. It was, is and will be in world history. But only in that case, I would have no complaints if the state of Russia from such liquidation literally blossomed, if the industrialization of the country began and every year would gain tangible momentum in accordance with the new technological order, accompanied by the creation of millions of jobs for all Russians. nationalities and nationalities, and not thousands, suitable only for Asian migrant workers. Yes, I have a lot of complaints! I would like to note that this forum has gathered experts who themselves can roll out a strategic list of claims to the illegitimate government of the country.
            At the same time, I understand that, unexpectedly for themselves, our illegitimate leaders, having no idea what real capitalist production and way of life is, fell into capitalism like chickens. But, in order not to be plucked by ourselves (they didn’t take power for that!), They pluck us to a featherless state, leaving us only a pitiful fluff on our body, covering our nakedness, but not saving us from poverty!
            What are you doing, huh? Are you upstairs?!?
            Wow - chickens were banned in the dachas! Parsley was banned! Mushrooms, fish, berries, dead wood, etc.! ...
            Oh, I understand very well what you are doing. By driving the people not just into poverty, but now already starving poverty, putting them on the brink of survival, you force everyone without exception to get into bonded credit dependence on you, take loans even for food, that is, make everyone complicit in your illegitimacy, excluding these claims to the crime of the collapse of the Union, and many of us have already climbed into this bondage, you did it!
            But do not be deceived by our seemingly tired indifference to what is happening. We knew and know who you really are, and on occasion we will disperse in different directions. We just put up with you. While we endure, you are our illegitimate little ones!
            1. -1
              21 September 2021 09: 26
              Hello dear Lyudmila Yakovlevna! Not only is history being rewritten, hushing up the advantages and exploits of socialism! So to create new, capitalist heroes, somehow it does not work out yet! am Not even writers or composers! Artists or something wassat feel fool
              But somehow they do not praise either our scientists or the military. Or have I missed something?
              When earlier, ~~ 10 years ago, there was Pakhmutova's anniversary and a concert of her songs, they managed to congratulate her without mentioning the words USSR and KOMSOMOL! Under Soviet rule, from its first days, there were revolutionary posters, but now there are no posters!
              1. +1
                21 September 2021 09: 32
                There are no posters. I continue:
                Who will be portrayed in the upper right corner as a goodie?
                Not a teacher! And not a doctor! And certainly not a worker! --- CAPITACLISM - sss!
                Whom should I portray? In addition to the oligarchs and representatives of the Russian Orthodox Church, there seems to be no one in the present! Well, not to portray an artist?
              2. +1
                21 September 2021 10: 17
                hushing up the pluses and exploits of socialism! So to create new, capitalist heroes, somehow it does not work out yet!


                Yesterday I came across a selection of photographs of BAM builders on the Internet. The station, arrival at a construction site, a wedding ... All young people, how much enthusiasm, how much happiness on their faces! There is no real happiness - not drunken smirks, not a senseless high from the drugs taken - no! This is happiness, genuine, pure, elevating the soul to flight to a high dream, completely devoid of selfish motives, despite the fact that there were selfish motives. There were, but they were ennobled by the joint, next to thousands of young people with the happiness of the creation of their country ...
                Are there big construction projects in Russia now? There is. Little, not enough for a country like ours, but there is. Russian youth have been pushed away from them. They are now "created" by guest workers, who do not have any motives that elevate a person, except for purely selfish ones. And they will also work at the constructed enterprises. And they are already working! And a decree was passed on charter trains for 1000 Asian guest workers each. Because Russian construction and work collectives are not just unnecessary - they are dangerous because of their ability for class consolidation, which the current bourgeoisie cannot do from any side. Asians are advantageous in their inability to consolidate class in a foreign country, but they are able to create diasporas that can easily be used to suppress the Russian population with elements of chaos, crime and strikebreaking.
                1. 0
                  21 September 2021 10: 29
                  .......... Russian workers and construction teams are not just unnecessary --- they are dangerous .....
                  Well, yes! Well, yes! Chubais's precepts are true. They won these victories, and, as Olgovich says, they tied the knots and hacked them on their foreheads. What else? There were words that they should be ready to move! And no one, as you correctly wrote, is calling the Russian youth, but it is constantly said that there are not enough millions of migrants. And under the Soviet Union they worked in their republics.
            2. -1
              21 September 2021 10: 20
              ......... make everyone complicit in your illegitimacy .....
              Yes, Lyudmila Yakovlevna! How can you not remember how Lem had about cutting? From water, dampness they began to suffer from various diseases, but at the same time they praised the fishing. So 30 years of capitaclysm cannot be compared with any 30 years of socialism. And all the same --- drunk --- the beacon of democracy, and a lie in the school curriculum. A monument to him. True, we also have a monument to a foreign hmm-hmm, a waste negative was staged um-hmm
            3. +6
              21 September 2021 10: 38
              Quote: depressant
              all these "exonerators" of a crime like the Solzhenitsyn.

              but he did not "justify" anything. Solzhenitsyn dreamed of entering the history of Russia as a triumphant (Voinovich played this sarcastically in his "Moscow-2042"), or rather even - reformer... But he became (and will remain) exclusively a critic-destructor and a master of Gulag horror.
              Quote: depressant
              I would have no complaints. For the situation is historically trivial.

              The death of the Union is a geopolitical catastrophe. Do you call this a "trivial situation"? Curiously, what scale should the "situation" be then for you to recognize it as historically "non-trivial"?
              1. +2
                21 September 2021 16: 04
                And his brochure "How We Can Improve Russia" with a call to abandon the majority of the republics was harmful. But, at the same time, its circulation was colossal.
            4. +1
              21 September 2021 20: 26
              Depressant, hi!

              Quote: depressant
              Parsley was banned!

              https://sovetysadovodam.ru/ovoshhi/listovye/pochemu-zapretili-petrushku-v-rossii-v-2021-godu-i-yavlyaetsya-li-ona-narkosoderzhashhim-rasteniem/

              Quote: depressant
              Mushrooms, fish, berries, dead wood, etc.! ...

              https://rg.ru/2021/04/14/reg-urfo/kak-pri-sbore-gribov-i-valezhnika-ne-narvatsia-na-nepriiatnosti.html

              Read and do not mislead the gullible comrades of the members of the forum: they were not banned, but they demand to follow the rules. Not without reason, by the way. You have nothing against setting up a fire according to the rules, do you?
  9. +8
    21 September 2021 06: 23
    Two years ago, a monument to this literary Vlasovite was opened in Kislovodsk. They were amazed by the hands of Solzhenitsyn on the monument. The fingers are thin, but sinewy and spread out, as if ready to take by the throat and strangle, and not take a pen and write. This shows the whole essence of Solzhenitsyn - a lousy writer, and a strangler of paramount importance. Strangler of our Motherland. But he was the first to strangle those to whom, in the name of avoiding getting from the rear to the front line at the front, he wrote these letters against Stalin and against the country's leadership. He knew that the recipients would be assigned the title of enemy of the people for life for their participation in a group conspiracy, although the recipients of the letters from Solzhenitsyn were loyal to the Motherland and were for Stalin. But both the sender of the letters and those to whom Solzhenitsyn's letters were addressed, although they did not expect letters from him and even were once familiar with Solzhenitsyn only in passing, received the stigma of an enemy of the people. And so Solzhenitsyn sat down in the camps, knowing that he, as an informer and a chameleon, would have a place there either in a bread slicer or in a laundry, and that in the camp such
    very few chances will die, compared to the front line
    And how the fingers of Solzhenitsyn, the strangler of our Motherland, grabbed the throat of our Motherland, when a pack of traitors began to kill the Motherland, starting with Yakovlev and Gorbachev and ending with liberals like Gaidar, Chubais and Sobchak, you all know about this, there is nothing to remind. And these fingers of the traitor Solzhenitsyn still strangle Russia. Now the souls of schoolchildren, who are weak and have not yet formed their worldview, are more accessible to them and can do it. And in literature lessons in schools, Solzhenitsyn was right there. And if he adds cinema and television to Solzhenitsyn in the school curriculum, where he humiliates the USSR and Stalin, then what awaits the schoolchildren ... school curriculum
    students.
    1. +2
      21 September 2021 06: 37
      I think the sculptor did the job, but he had his own opinion about the character. Such nuances are not simply cast.
      1. -1
        21 September 2021 11: 23
        Quote: Andrey Moskvin
        I think the sculptor did the job, but he had his own opinion about the character.

        Tsereteli, by the way.
    2. -1
      21 September 2021 11: 07
      Quote: north 2
      The fingers are thin, but sinewy and spread out, as if ready to take by the throat and strangle, and not take a pen and write. This shows the whole essence of Solzhenitsyn - a lousy writer, and a strangler of paramount importance. Strangler of our Motherland. But he was the first to choke those

      laughing
      bright speech. But Solzhi in the image of the holy old man with the fingers of Fredy Kruger is, of course, a masterpiece of bad taste. It feels like they kicked him on the fingers of the piano lid, and he was like Rostropovich - "Your mother, Slavik, this is just a Dog's waltz ...."
  10. +13
    21 September 2021 06: 27
    My impressions of Solzhenitsyn's work are hard to read, you make words from letters, from words of a sentence. And when I read the GULAG, I was completely bewildered: who fought? and who built it? who plowed the land? A big mistake was the expulsion of Solzhenitsyn from the USSR. Even then it was necessary to publish the GULAG Archipelago ... with notes on each page, he lies here, here too ... I think he himself would ask to leave, but they made him a fighter against the regime, such he remained for today's power because this power needs heroes. That’s where the monuments to Solzhenitsyn, Czech legionnaires, the "dostochka" Mannerheim, etc. went.
  11. +8
    21 September 2021 06: 28
    Very good article. Although it is probably disgusting to write about such a "rubbish man", the country should know the true face of such "heroes". I agree on all points. All over! Starting with literary mediocrity (reading his books, one had to literally wade through the text, everything is written in such an incomprehensible, oak language), and ending with all his actions.
  12. +6
    21 September 2021 06: 29
    and this one is forced to go to school, they ruin the country
  13. +3
    21 September 2021 06: 58
    In December 2018, Putin inaugurated a monument to Solzhenitsyn in Moscow. On Solzhenitsyn Street, into which in 2008 the Bolshaya Kommunisticheskaya was renamed in violation of the law: at that time, less than 10 years had passed since the date of his death.

    I would never have thought that such lines would appear on "VO". What happened?

    Let's continue.
    On principle, I did not read Solzhenitsyn's libels, although some of my acquaintances were indescribably delighted that they FINALLY managed to find out the "truth." The truth about what? I hope that the time will come when (even if I don’t have time), many will discover those true meanings and “heroes” of today's events, today's history, when old values ​​are so easily overthrown and new ones, fashioned from shit, are put in their place ...
  14. +1
    21 September 2021 08: 09
    Well written and most importantly correct. As the saying goes, such articles, yes to the current rulers in the eyes - so that they read and understand how the people treat all Solzhenitsins, Sakharovs, Yeltsins, Gaidars and others. However, they probably know (which is the saddest thing).
  15. +2
    21 September 2021 08: 10
    Good article. Auto RU hi
  16. +3
    21 September 2021 08: 11
    Shalamov, who loved to lie, as an artist, but still worthy of respect, sat for the idea ... as a socialist-revolutionary and did not write denunciations, he was not an informer.
  17. +2
    21 September 2021 08: 21
    The most detailed creations of this corrupt hack were analyzed by V.S. Bushin, literary critic. Respect for the article to the author.
  18. +2
    21 September 2021 08: 47
    If you read Solzhenitsyn's speech delivered in America in 1975 in Russian, available on the Internet, it is obvious that Solzhenitsyn also had extensive claims to the West. In short, he blamed the countries of Western Europe and Britain that after the Second World War of the USSR they gave up Soviet citizens who served Hitler during the war, that is, Nazi criminals who fled to the West at the end of the war. He criticized America for the victory he had not won in the Korean War and especially lamented America's ending the Vietnam War and the withdrawal of American troops from Vietnam. Here is such a dove of peace, a sufferer from the war and from the camps. As a consequence of the fact that America is no longer fighting either in Korea or in Vietnam, from here and Solzhenitsyn's proposal to America - so maybe then attack the USSR! No, Solzhenitsyn then did not directly offer America to bombard the USSR with atomic bombs. It was for Solzhenitsyn that one of his goodies in the "Gulag Archipelago" made a phrase, shouting in the camp at those who put him in the camp that ... Truman will be on you too! Throw an atomic bomb on your head! "
    So I did not see the expression on Solzhenitsyn's face when his spiritual associate Yeltsin, sixteen years after Solzhenitsyn's speech in America, reported in Washington that the USSR had been destroyed without any outside bombing. But I can imagine what a contented muzzle it was listening to and seeing it.
  19. +5
    21 September 2021 09: 13
    In the early 90s, when the hype began with: "Archipilag". I undertook to read, but my "rasp" was enough for about half, and then I threw it to the Gretz dogs and took some "ladies'" novel, I think, by Ripley. By God, after him, any sentimental dregs is a masterpiece.
    PS. Valery, my respect to you: they did not spare their teeth
  20. +4
    21 September 2021 09: 21
    In December 2018, Putin inaugurated a monument to Solzhenitsyn in Moscow

    That says a lot ...
  21. -5
    21 September 2021 10: 13
    Do not care about Solzhenitsyn what he wrote there ...
    The author of the article, refuting it, writes that there were no camps, or if there were, there was "Here they were waiting for a fully paid nine-hour working day, a work book, a full social package ..." - that is, almost heaven on earth, do I understand correctly?
  22. +3
    21 September 2021 10: 14
    In the late 80s, all this perestroika literature hit the unclouded minds of Soviet people, suffice it to recall the Ogonyok magazine of those years, which came out in huge print runs. On the occasion I bought the "Archipelago". Imprint: Moscow, Soviet writer, New World 1989. Minsk "Mastatskaya Literatura" 1990. Three volumes, price per one - 7 rubles, circulation - 180000 copies. I must say, it worked like a bomb in the beginning. Sobering up later came, there was even a photograph of Solzhenitsyn in camp uniform, when a security guard snoops at him - a fake one, taken after Isaich was released from the camp.
  23. +3
    21 September 2021 10: 15
    This is how we live: in the economy Gref, Siluanov, Kudrin, Nabiulina and Golikova.
    At school - Solzhenitsyn, enraged teenagers - shooters.
    The fact that we do not mention Edro in Goslum is not so important. If you get the command to vote for the Communist Manifesto from You-Know-Who, so unanimously!
    And they tell us: there is no ideology. And it exists, it's just a shame to call it an ideology, Solzhenitsyn-Gaidar, based on lies and in the service of someone's greed.
    Although the "moral code of the builder of communism" was based on 10 commandments, the current "ideology" denies all of them.
  24. BAI
    +3
    21 September 2021 10: 24
    The only place where Solzhenitsyn spoke the truth is in his memories of HOW HE SPENDED TIME IN THE CAMPS. As he never did physical labor for the entire period, how he spent hours lying in a hammock, how they played volleyball for hours, etc. Here is the truth, the rest is a lie.
  25. -2
    21 September 2021 10: 36
    what he wrote about the Great Patriotic War in his multi-page libel "The Gulag Archipelago"

    Dear author, would you be so kind to name the chapter and page of the "Gulag Archipelago" where this text was written?
    Solzhenitsyn actually fought in the rear - as the commander of a sound reconnaissance battery. That is, it was located about 3-5 kilometers from the front line

    That is, the "rear" is 3-5 kilometers from the trench line itself. In direct reach of enemy artillery, not to mention air strikes.
    he received a relatively lenient sentence: 8 years in camps without confiscation of property

    For a "terrible" (no) "crime" in the form of a verbal criticism of I.V. Stalin (Dzhugashvili).
    And he understands that any counterintelligence, even Soviet, even Polish, even British (and so on), will come for the author of such a letter.

    For the author of the letter, which does not contain any state or military secrets, but only verbal criticism of the current head of government?
    1. 0
      21 September 2021 11: 41
      Quote: Terran Ghost
      Dear author, would you be so kind to name the chapter and page of the "GULAG Archipelago" where this text is written?

      Will not. Isn't it obvious that he did not read The Archipelago ... but is content with critical compilations?
  26. -7
    21 September 2021 10: 37
    From the point of view of historical objectivity, the "historian" Ryzhov and the "writer" Solzhenitsyn are on the same level.
    Solzhenitsyn has long been out of date. Even his Memorial practically does not procrastinate.
    At school, one or two lessons are assigned to him.
    Solzhenitsyn inflicted enormous harm on the study of history with hasty, unsubstantiated and emotional statements, creating distrust of any attempts to consider Stalin's repressions - "a billion shot by Stalin himself."
    The problem is that today's redheads are Solzhenitsyn at minimum wages, with exactly the same demagogic approach, only with reverse polarity.
    The article is feces by any measure. Even the usual lightness of the syllable changed the author. Strained, vexatious, often deceitful. In Solzhenitsyn's way laughing
    1. -8
      21 September 2021 11: 33
      Quote: Engineer
      The article is feces by any measure. Even the usual lightness of the syllable changed the author. Strained, vexatious, often deceitful. In Solzhenitsyn's way

      I strongly agree. The article sucks in every sense.
      1. -1
        21 September 2021 12: 19
        In general, it would be possible (and rather necessary) to single out Solzhenitsyn's journalistic activities separately. His place among dissidents. The significance of the "Archipelago" in initiating a new round of discussion around repressions.
        Emigration activities, contradictory statements of the last period of life.
        Literary activity separately. For example, my teacher of literature (the winner of many competitions among teachers) did not consider him a literary writer, only for "Matrenin Dvor" she was ready to make an exception

        But for this the author would need to be able to analyze. That is to jump over your head

        In an amicable way, the deconstruction of the myth about Solzhenitsyn is needed, but even more is the deconstruction of the anti-myth in him, the anti-myth that the author is broadcasting.

        The hero of the article was not flawless, was not an unyielding opponent of the regime. He was a narrow-minded person in many aspects who uttered a lot of nonsense. Some of them are quite forgivable, but some are dumbfounded.
        On the other hand, he was a real front-line soldier and a real prisoner. We must not forget about this.
        Somehow the detractors forgot about awarding the hero of the article with an order in wartime. But the article is a run over a deceased war veteran, perhaps the worst sin in the eyes of the "patriotic" public. Double standards or just bipolar?
    2. +7
      21 September 2021 12: 14
      Quote: Engineer
      From the point of view of historical objectivity, the "historian" Ryzhov and the "writer" Solzhenitsyn are on the same level.

      I'm not sure what is more in this phrase - flattery in relation to Solzhenitsyn or criticism in relation to Ryzhov. laughing
      Somehow you very harshly went through our esteemed Valery today, Denis. It seems to me that this is not your style.
      I understand,
      With what measure you measure, it will be measured to you also

      that is, as Valery writes, he is commented on, but still ... smile
      And, by the way, as for the lightness of the syllable, Valery warned, both in the comments and in the article itself, that the material was difficult for him, because in the process of writing he experienced strong negative emotions.
      By the way, for some time now I start to catch myself thinking that after reading Valery's articles I have a desire to write my own article on the same topic. This happened once before - when I wrote an article about settling accounts with Rurik. The writing of this article (two articles) was provoked by an article published on VO on the same topic, I just don’t remember who the author was and what the name was, I remember that there was some kind of nonsense, it was very weak and I was zealous. So, now I really wanted to act as a "devil's advocate".
      Of course, I will keep this desire, they did not cope with this, but the fact itself is terrifying. In an emotional outburst, I am mentally ready to defend Solzhenitsyn from public attacks! Nightmare! wassat
      Valery, look at what you've brought me to! We can say that they were forcibly driven into the camp of ideological opponents! laughing
      1. -3
        21 September 2021 12: 28
        Somehow you very harshly went through our esteemed Valery today, Denis. It seems to me that this is not your style.

        Everything is much simpler.
        Статья- https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/%D0%9A%D0%B0%D0%BB

        And, by the way, as for the lightness of the syllable, Valery warned, both in the comments and in the article itself, that the material was difficult for him, because in the process of writing he experienced strong negative emotions.

        I couldn't eat laughing
        that is, as Valery writes, he is commented on, but still.


        I am ready to make a discount for Vaschenko, Shpakovsky, Eremenko
        And what services to Ryzhov?
        He and Skomorokhov can be given a prize for the "lightest pen" at VO. That's all. Somehow a little.

        PS The author called the front-line soldier-order bearer a coward. For a much less acute attack, the local progressive community was ready to lynch Navalny. Nothing here, hawala.
        This is different (s)
        1. -3
          21 September 2021 14: 04
          Quote: Engineer
          I couldn't eat

          What I found and copied. The Algerian cycle copied to the comma from one blogger with a good syllable, it turned out to be a good syllable. This bunch is pushed away by a dull still kgbash pen in the 70s and copy-paste the corresponding one.
          Zhvl that none of the heirs of Solzhenitsyn visits this site. There is a whole heap of articles of the Criminal Code and Civil Code for claims)
          1. -2
            21 September 2021 16: 52
            What I found and copied. The Algerian cycle copied and pasted to the comma from one blogger with a good syllable, it turned out to be a good syllable.

            Well. It seemed to me that Ryzhov is a so-so historian who does not even try to be one, but at least writes on a historical topic easily and smoothly. And here it is.
            1. -3
              21 September 2021 17: 14
              Quote: Engineer
              ... And here it is



              https://catherine-catty.livejournal.com/1040937.html?utm_source=3userpost
              1. +1
                22 September 2021 08: 36
                And nothing that Catherine herself, after explaining to Ryzhov, had no and does not have any complaints? And, after presenting the first claims, as Ryzhov explained then in his commentary, in order to remove all the questions, personally read his articles on the Algerian war before publishing on VO? Are you not interested in such "little things"? Do you only see what you want to see?
                1. +1
                  22 September 2021 08: 54
                  By the way, you know perfectly well how this dispute ended. I remind you:

      2. -1
        21 September 2021 13: 49
        I suppose Ryzhov should have read "The Archipelago ..." at least diagonally before crashing down with his placard-rough tongue.
        1. +2
          21 September 2021 14: 12
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          placard-rough tongue

          In this case, I don’t want to criticize the author’s language - it was difficult for him, apparently, to restrain himself. smile As for the acquaintance with creativity, this is not an easy question. For example, I allow myself to criticize some authors, such as Klyosov or Fomenko, being very superficially familiar with their work and I think that I have every moral right to do so. In order to understand that this or that literary work, as Denis put it today, is feces, in my opinion, it is not at all necessary to study it from beginning to end - you just need to familiarize yourself with the author's language, his main ideas. I personally read The Archipelago ... thirty years ago, made my own conclusions and never returned to Solzhenitsyn's work. But several times I came across materials on the analysis of his work, some of them were very entertaining and almost all largely reflected my own, long-established opinion - rubbish.
          If this article was written exactly as originally conceived by the author, then in order to write it, a deep acquaintance with the work of the object of research was not required. The genre is not the same. Although, I think, "diagonally" Valery Solzhenitsyn, of course, read.
          1. -1
            21 September 2021 14: 38
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            If this article was written exactly as originally conceived by the author, then in order to write it, a deep acquaintance with the work of the object of research was not required.

            Perhaps, I am ready to admit that you are right. To be a passionate solzhephobe, it is not at all necessary to study his prose or journalism - it is enough to proceed from the fundamental theses of the name without dissolving into literaryism, yes.
            1. +1
              21 September 2021 15: 58
              Actually, why? To determine what you are dealing with some substances, it is enough just to smell, it is not necessary to try, moreover, it is not necessary to finish eating to the end. smile
          2. +2
            21 September 2021 14: 50
            Quote: Trilobite Master
            I allow myself to criticize some authors, such as Klyosov or Fomenko, being familiar with their work very superficially and I think that I have every moral right to do so

            Good afternoon Mikhail,
            I think more than that: do not read 80 volumes, and if I am not mistaken, they have already published more than 80 books, when there is not enough time for normal books. hi
            I personally read The Archipelago ... thirty years ago, made my own conclusions and never returned to Solzhenitsyn's work.

            I read it at school, then at the end of the 80s it was fashionable, with a sin in half overpowered, tried to read something else, but here I gave up.
            Recently I found 2 books at the dacha: Solzhenitsyn and Shukshin's Stories: "One Day in Ivan Denisovich" more or less, "Matrenin Dvor" has already been abandoned.
            In my amateur opinion, of course: not a writer.
            Shukshin lamented in one sitting: A writer with a capital letter. hi
            several times I came across materials on the analysis of his work

            Probably, you mean the book by A. Ostrovsky "Solzhenitsyn. Farewell to the myth".
            By the way, it would not hurt to cite it in the article as a list of references.
            The book, of course, is largely journalistic, but while the materials of the case are closed (and if I am not mistaken they are closed), then for now we have to be content with this.
            I wonder what we will see there? hi
            1. +1
              21 September 2021 15: 53
              Greetings, Sergey. hi
              At one time I had the idea to first come out with a serious criticism of Fomenko and Co., to make out in a language understandable to the majority how they deceive their adherents. Then there was an idea, based on their works, to create a purely humorous material on the subject of neighing only. The problem I faced was the same as that of Valery: it is difficult to read their nonsense. Physically difficult. And it’s a pity for time. I wrote a little and dropped it. Then I published a part of the written humorous text on VO, I did not like the results, I decided not to return to this anymore.
              And Solzhenitsyn ... Not a writer, unambiguously, artistic images are flat and unnatural. The thinker is also not drawn - everything is somehow primitive and superficial. The historical part is below any criticism in general.
              There are such characters in history who, without having any abilities, without having done anything significant, suddenly, due to some chaotic fluctuations, turn out to be famous, famous, etc. In my opinion, this is the case. An insignificance caught in the stream and carried to the crest of events by the hand of chance. For me, the question with him is closed.
              Quote: Mihaylov
              I wonder what we will see there?

              Not interesting at all. Most likely human abomination in a high degree of concentration and nothing more.
              1. +3
                21 September 2021 16: 19
                Quote: Trilobite Master
                There are such characters in history who, without having any abilities, without having done anything significant, suddenly, due to some chaotic fluctuations, turn out to be famous, famous, etc. In my opinion, this is the case.

                Well said!
                I'm just wondering: "The Nobel Academicians" who awarded him the prize could they read it themselves? wassat
                For me, the question with him is closed.

                For me as well.
                But it would still be interesting to see the case, but I think it will not be opened in our lifetime, because most likely for this reason it is closed:
                Most likely human abomination in a high degree of concentration and nothing more.
                hi
              2. -2
                21 September 2021 16: 58
                And Solzhenitsyn ... Not a writer, unambiguously, artistic images are flat and unnatural. The thinker is also not drawn - everything is somehow primitive and superficial.

                So let's judge Solzhenitsyn as a writer separately, as a publicist separately, as a public figure separately. As a person it is better not to judge at all, but to leave people of that era like Shalamov.
                So far, in the comments, they carry our unlucky author of the article with their nose, pointing to examples of obvious lies.
                1. +2
                  21 September 2021 17: 24
                  If you want - judge. smile
                  I am pleased to familiarize myself with your position on this figure in all aspects of his activities. I myself can hardly enrich you with anything in this regard, because, alas, I am regrettably ignorant in this matter - I am familiar with only one work (I emphasize - a sign, nothing more) and some details of the subject's biography.
                  Nevertheless, I am ready to enrich my knowledge at your expense. smile
                  1. -2
                    21 September 2021 18: 17
                    There is only one knowledge:
                    He fought in the most terrible war, he was in the same 58th. He may not be drawn to automatic respect, but it seems to me better not to fight with his memory, but to solve the issue of Stalinist repressions separately from his personality.
                    Not a hero, but a witness to the era. I didn’t do anything outstanding, but I saw, I knew, I suffered.
                    1. +1
                      21 September 2021 18: 29
                      The devil is in the details, you know that very well. For what and how he fought, for what and how he sat - this can change a lot in the understanding of his personality.
                      I don’t know the details, so I’m only ready to absorb. But as far as I can judge from the height of my awareness, the personality of Solzhenitsyn and his deeds go far beyond the Stalinist repressions, although they are inseparable from them, like dough that escaped from a saucepan is inseparable from yeast. smile
                      You yourself offered to consider him from three different angles - as a writer, publicist and public figure, and I'm really interested in what a person like you can say about this person.
                      To consider the issue of repression as a whole in the context of the personality of Solzhenitsyn alone, it seems to me a lot of honor for the latter. smile
                      1. -5
                        21 September 2021 18: 46
                        His life is the tragedy of the "little man"
                        Rejecting Solzhenitsyn as the "conscience of the era" and an iconic writer, I reserve to him the right to say anything about anything. He wrote and with his word ensured the coverage for himself. His business. Deserved. Myself. He wrote within the framework of the historical conjuncture, crooked and clumsy, sometimes absurd and tongue-tied to disgust. But he was there. And we all do not. He saw it. And we all do not.
                        Solzhenitsyn's name is inseparable from the problem of repression. Whether we like it or not.
                      2. 0
                        21 September 2021 19: 16
                        Yes, repression is the very yeast on which it grew. He raised this topic and inflated it as best he could, taking advantage of its taboo on the part of the official authorities and (let's not forget this) the support of the enemies of his country, his people. And he did it with lies. Frank, direct, and most likely knowing. He would write exclusively the truth - honor and praise, but no. It is for the lie, and mainly for it, that he is criticized. Lack of talent, personal qualities, snitching, etc. - nonsense.
                      3. -4
                        21 September 2021 20: 05
                        he took up this topic and inflated it as best he could, taking advantage of its taboo on the part of the official authorities and (let's not forget this) the support of the enemies of his country, his people.

                        This is his personal right. He served 8 years for idle chatter.
                        This predetermined his partiality, but he had all the reasons
                        Even in order to raise this topic in the then conditions, civic courage is required.
                        Let me remind you that in his era there was no Internet and open archives.
                        It is for the lie, and mainly for it, that he is criticized.

                        So I'm all for it. So far, Mr. Ryzhov has been caught in a lie. laughing
                        Solzhenitsyn was not Mark Porcius Cato. But the image of the bastard also does not appear, as if the redheads would not like it.
                      4. +1
                        21 September 2021 20: 37
                        Quote: Engineer
                        Let me remind you that in his era there was no Internet and open archives.

                        He could write about what he saw and himself experienced. Many of his contemporaries did this. But he apparently needed to surpass all his comrades in misfortune, get ahead of them and cover them with the shadow of his own greatness, even at the cost of lies, exaggeration and frankly delusional sadistic fantasies. By the way, it was these fantasies that I remember from his "Archipelago ..." thirty years ago.
                        Justifying him by the presence of personal grievances against his state is also not very good, it sounds somehow childish: "They were the first to start."
                        Here Ryzhov is caught on a lie - well, it is high time for Valery to look around him and evaluate the path of her creative development in recent years. But Solzhenitsyn was also caught in a lie more than once, and if at the beginning of his career this lie could still be justified by banal ignorance, then in recent years it can be explained exclusively by intent.
                        With your permission, Denis, I will take my leave. The knights are calling. smile
                      5. -3
                        21 September 2021 20: 42
                        With your permission, Denis, I will take my leave. The knights are calling.

                        Are they pouring in? laughing
                        For some reason, knights are also more interesting to me than Solzhenitsyn-Stalin-Gulag
                        Substitution as a way of psychological protection ??))
                      6. -2
                        21 September 2021 20: 52
                        They are more interesting to me than Ivan the Terrible, and Peter the Great with all the Romanovs. It's just more interesting. Knights at Shpakovsky's from six o'clock. Do not pour until they are mobilized. smile
                2. -3
                  21 September 2021 18: 25
                  Quote: Engineer
                  So let's judge Solzhenitsyn

                  What are you .... Solzhenitsyn committed a grave sin, which is worse than a crime. He was the first to show What was hidden so carefully behind a screen. And there is dirt, stench, blood and the worst manifestations of human qualities. And the criminal essence of the state. The state does not treat its citizens in such a way. has the right to live neither by the laws of God nor by human beings. And the whole country was involved in this one way or another, some as victims, some as executioners. Very many played both of these roles. It is hard and ashamed for a person to realize and accept all this. And courage is needed more. Therefore the best people sites react with fakes, abuse and curses. The more educated are pretending to slightly pregnant virgins.Type ...I read it for a long time ... and only with one eye ... a couple of pages and then drunk ... the syllable does not satisfy me ... the images are flat and so on.
                  But both categories lie in the ostrich position just not to discuss WHAT exactly is described there.
                  1. -4
                    21 September 2021 18: 36
                    Alas, so. Any attack on Solzhenitsyn in the author's presentation is precisely an attack on the reality of Stalinist repressions, against the tragedy of the Soviet and Russian population.
                    Solzhenitsyn is a liar, which means that his testimonies about the repressions are false, that is, they did not exist, but it was the enlightenment of the "enemies of the people", the inevitable historical only correct path.
                    "They shot correctly, shot still a little, needed more, shot not all" - the eternal refrain of the "patriotic community" This is about an unprecedented era of repression in our history.
                    1. +5
                      21 September 2021 19: 45
                      Quote: Engineer
                      Alas, so. Any attack on Solzhenitsyn in the author's presentation is precisely an attack on the reality of Stalinist repressions.


                      Quote: Liam
                      He was the first to show What was hidden so carefully behind the screen.

                      So two loneliness met. Okay singing. Everyone knew about the repression, he did not discover anything new.
                      But.
                      They say that there is no medicine, no poison. There is a quantity.
                      He overestimated the victims of repression by more than an order of magnitude.
                      So, Solzhenitsyn lied shamelessly !!! Consciously and perversely.
                      1. -3
                        21 September 2021 19: 56
                        And everyone knew about the repression.

                        And now everyone knows. They only say that these repressions were not enough
                        Here Russophobes communicate, here you have to think. laughing
                      2. +4
                        21 September 2021 20: 07
                        Quote: Engineer
                        here it is necessary to think.


                        It's right! In 1937. there was a population growth of almost 40% from the previous (before the repressive) and so on before the war. How!
                        And what kind of repressions and global cataclysms shook the countries of the former USSR, what did they lose 1991 million people after 70?
                        Well, except for the fact of the collapse of the USSR.
                      3. -4
                        21 September 2021 20: 13
                        You see, even the most stubborn Stalinists do not deny the massive repressions of 37.
                        But in order to put on a par with those executed at the same Butovo training ground and demographic changes caused by a complex of social reasons, it is necessary to push especially qualitatively.
                        And what kind of repressions and global cataclysms shook the countries of the former USSR, what did they lose 1991 million people after 79?

                        A billion people shot personally by Gorbachev and Yeltsin bully
                      4. +2
                        21 September 2021 20: 22
                        Quote: Engineer
                        Billion shot


                        Who the hell knows? But the losses of the countries of the former USSR in 30 years. make up 70 -75 million... (I was slightly mistaken, hit the wrong key-next.) Man.
                        But the reasons?
                        For 40 years (1918-1959) the USSR also lost 70 million (but there is GW, famine, repression, WWII).
                        In how.
                      5. -2
                        21 September 2021 20: 28
                        Bloody ghouls Yeltsin-Kravchuk-Shevardnadze and others and others worked cleanly. No triplets or funnels. People just disappeared). Learn, Joseph and Lawrence, sons.
                        When will it reach people that the factors of the second demographic transition, the curtailment of the housing program, uncertainty about the future and the spread of contraceptives are reducing the population more than repression, wars and epidemics. laughing
                      6. +3
                        21 September 2021 20: 46
                        Quote: Engineer
                        When will it reach people that the factors of the second demographic transition


                        As it strangely coincided with the collapse of the USSR.
                        And before that. we are sinners (70% are urban and urbanized), we did not know anything about contraceptives. And the curtailment of the housing program is worse than repression, wars and epidemics. Well, yes.
                        Then Stalin is right, to shoot a couple of dozen for the disruption of housing (and other programs), and immediately there is confidence in the future, and the population and prosperity grows.
                        You don't find the method to be effective.
                        Maybe it should be that way now?
                      7. -3
                        21 September 2021 20: 57
                        As it strangely coincided with the collapse of the USSR.

                        In your version of the story, it may have coincided. In my no

                        And the curtailment of the housing program is worse than repression, wars and epidemics. Well, yes.

                        I wrote about complex of factors, but you've moved on to selective quoting. I'm not surprised)
                        You don't find the method to be effective.
                        Maybe it should be that way now?

                        So shoot, what's the problem?
                        Just don't write later
                        Comrade Stalin, a terrible mistake has occurred
                      8. +4
                        21 September 2021 21: 17
                        Quote: Engineer
                        In my no


                        And you can't read graphs. Well, when did the gain become zero? What year?. IN!!!
                        And the fact that the birth rate began to fall is the beginning of a catastrophe (a phenomenon so beloved by both Solzhenitsyn and other liberals). And before that, everyone spat on the second demographic transition (along with the first).
                      9. -3
                        21 September 2021 21: 25
                        Bad try
                        Here is your original post
                        what kind of repressions and global cataclysms shook the countries of the former USSR, what did they lose after 1991 d. 79 million people?

                        Here's the sequel
                        How strange he is coincided with the collapse of the USSR.

                        According to the schedule, the turning point was 86-88. Before the collapse of the USSR
                        That's it.
                        And the fact that the birth rate began to fall is the beginning of a catastrophe

                        This is what you are already playing. Initially, you tied it to the collapse of the USSR and specifically after 91 years, see above
                        But in any case, from the very beginning you began to demagogically substitute concepts. The shootings of people 37 and the demographic turn of the late 80s and early 90s are phenomena of a different order. In the late 80s, people were not shot, your cap :). And in the 90s too.
                      10. 0
                        22 September 2021 07: 15
                        Quote: Engineer
                        This is what you are already playing. Initially, you tied it to the collapse of the USSR and specifically after 91 years, see above


                        To be precise. there was zero gain after the breakup. But the collapse of the USSR (if you are not very young) began before the legalization (especially the Baltics) 1991. So, the causal relationship is preserved.
                      11. -2
                        22 September 2021 10: 47
                        1. What terrible thing happened in 86-88 when there was a trend towards a decrease in natural growth?
                        2. The main thing. Where did the loss of 79 million come from?
                      12. +1
                        22 September 2021 14: 37
                        Quote: Engineer
                        What terrible thing happened in 86-88 when


                        Growth of separatism and nationalism, falling living standards (artificially).

                        Quote: Engineer
                        2. The main thing. Where did the loss of 79 million come from?

                        I already wrote - instead of zero, I pressed nine, but I was not much mistaken.
                        Trend.
                        1945 -1960 - population increased by 39 million
                        60-70g -32 million
                        70-80 - 22 million
                        80-90 years -23 million
                        Three decades should be at least 70 million in positive territory, and in 2020 we are not gaining even 300 million (post-Soviet space. And if you consider that the trend in the mid-80s was going to increase, then the number should be more.

                        So Stalin shot and imprisoned those who artificially created such trends. So they won. And now wherever you go. wedge everywhere.
                        This. I have not yet told about Ukraine.
                      13. 0
                        22 September 2021 16: 38
                        That is, you still haven't mastered demographic transitions?
                        The population, if it is not disturbed, will grow linearly?
                        Growth of separatism and nationalism, falling living standards (artificially).

                        What separatism and nationalism on the territory of the RSFSR in 86-88? I gave the count for the RSFSR-Russia. Let's talk in the kitchens "enough to feed the Baltic states" and the birth rate immediately fell? Are all the forces in the debate gone?
                        A drop in living standards in the near future means the family refuses to have offspring. The decline caused by this and other reasons is compared with hundreds of thousands of directviolent deaths as a result of repression. This demagoguery is worse than any Solzhenitsyn. Moreover, it is extrapolated so that any student will laugh.
                        This. I have not yet told about Ukraine.

                        Save for internal use.
                      14. -1
                        22 September 2021 18: 07
                        To start.
                        70 million losses for the USSR in 30 years, you do not deny.

                        Quote: Engineer
                        A drop in living standards in the near term means family rejection

                        And when he fell, in 1988. And what caused this? The crime of the authorities, which created such conditions when the people began to die out (by the way, mortality just burst after the collapse of the USSR). And you call this the second demographic transition? Any abrupt change on the graph is always caused by a certain event (artificial disturbance of the system - for example, on the graph, the rise in fertility and a decrease in mortality is a struggle for sobriety.), And not a certain trend that makes the process smooth, gradual.
                        It is you liberoids, demagogues, who always shape your inability and helplessness into the category of objective reasons. And you explain cleverly and intricately. why did you fail again. Lack of responsibility (real) and generates such results. And the appearance of a leader who, by his will, makes him answer with his head, causes constant diarrhea, and nervous tremors in talkative weirdos.


                        Quote: Engineer
                        Save for internal use.


                        Ah, what an awesome democratic and free country. Not Russia. That. what is dying out and degrading, so without dictatorship and authoritarianism, without the GULAG, without executions, without repression, etc.
                        Only I feel it will soon disappear (with the democratic leaders) altogether.
                      15. +1
                        22 September 2021 20: 40
                        70 million losses for the USSR in 30 years, you do not deny.

                        You should learn to read:
                        Moreover, it is extrapolated so that any student will laugh.

                        The crime of the authorities, which created such conditions when the people began to die out (by the way, mortality just exploded after the collapse of the USSR). And you call this the second demographic transition?

                        You have not mastered a simple thing. Social upheavals of the late 80s and early 90s superimposed to the demographic transition.
                        Demographics are complex and there is no simple explanation
                        Any abrupt change on the graph is always caused by a certain event (artificial disturbance of the system - for example, on the graph, the rise in fertility and a decrease in mortality is a struggle for sobriety.), And not a certain trend that makes the process smooth, gradual.

                        Heh, Looking at the chart, we see a very similar sharp collapse from 60th to 66th. What kind of "certain event" happened then?
                        Naturally, my question, what such a catastrophic thing happened in 86-88, remained unanswered. You gave something completely incomprehensible about nationalism and separatism (yeah, in the RSFSR). Yes, there was a drop in living standards and confidence in the future. But this is just one of the building blocks in the complex picture of the collapse. What was the abrupt transition from 85th to 86th there? Gorbachev said "perestroika" and fell by half past five for everyone?

                        You see, you have cited not a single fact for all the time. Only howls about something terrible happened during the "catastrophe" period. Something incredible, indescribable, unimaginable. Like Lovecraft.
                        There was a collapse in the birth rate and an increase in mortality. A lot of factors were at work. None of them, taken separately, explains the picture. And their totality does not fit into a one-dimensional system.
                        Duty screams about a catastrophe do not contain the key to understanding.

                        And the appearance of a leader who, by his will, makes him answer with his head, causes constant diarrhea, and nervous tremors in talkative weirdos.

                        Here you’re korezhit). Alas, Stalin is gone. And it won't. No matter how you conjure). No one will answer with his head for anything.
                        You only have Ukraine and be comforted laughing I wish you success hi
                      16. 0
                        22 September 2021 21: 29
                        Quote: Engineer
                        sharp collapse from 60th to 66th. What kind of "certain event" happened then?


                        If you are talking about a demographic hole (a consequence of the war), then explain the increase in the USSR in 32
                        million for 60-70 years (the largest), for example, for 50-60 -30 million, and this is until 1955 a ban on abortion. The factor of the Central Asian republics has not yet begun to work so clearly. RSFS growth 60-70 -13 million, and in 80-90 - 10 mlMr.

                        Quote: Engineer
                        Duty screams about a catastrophe do not contain the key to understanding.

                        And you are hinting at the second pit, and why the hell has the mortality increased dramatically? I would have kept at the level. There would have been an increase.

                        And enlighten, or imagination is no longer enough.
                      17. +1
                        22 September 2021 23: 16
                        This is fantasy for the Stalinists.)
                        I can't educate everyone on VO, so this post is the last one in the discussion.
                        Analysis is used to understand the problem. The problem is divided into components.
                        1. Fertility
                        1.1. The decline in the birth rate during the Second World War reverberated when the generation of children of the war entered the marriageable age. in 20-25 years. Yeah, the same drop in the birth rate in the 60s. A generation later, these grown children have given the same downward trend since the mid-80s. Just in time for restructuring... Such are the coincidences.
                        1.2 All of this was superimposed on a global trend towards a decrease in the birth rate. The same demographic transition. Due to the fact that the sex and age pyramid of the population of the RSFSR is deformed by wars, famines, etc., it is difficult to distinguish it explicitly from statistics, but we know that it exists and it generally pulls the birth rate down.
                        1.3 Against the background of these global factors, there were secondary factors, such as social programs for housing construction, which gave local fluctuations in the form of an increase in the birth rate.

                        And you are hinting at the second pit, and why the hell has the mortality increased dramatically? I would have kept at the level. There would have been an increase.

                        Lord, you can't even make out a simple schedule.
                        2. Mortality.
                        2.1 From 66th to 84th mortality grew steadily, although insignificantly, but quite stable. This is evident from the graph.
                        2.2 84-86 mortality falls Such is the "catastrophe". This is usually associated with "dry law"
                        2.3 from the 86th to the 91st, the mortality rate increases again, but almost exactly the same pace as in 66-84... Draw the resulting straight lines for both periods and make sure they are parallel.
                        2.4 The turning point in the increase in mortality came in 92-95 - an increase in total of about 4 cases per 1000.
                        If we compare it with the total loss for that period of -6 or -5 people, then it is clear that the statement
                        Would keep at the level. There would be an increase

                        Wrong. If not for this increase in mortality, then the overall increase would still almost
                        held out to zero. Have you forgotten how to subtract graphs yet?

                        Conclusions.
                        "Katastroyka" practically did not affect the demographic situation. The decline in the birth rate was predetermined - see paragraphs 1.1 and 1.2. Where it is possible to trace, its impact on demography was rather positive - see paragraph 2.2. There is no increase in mortality during the perestroika period compared to the general trend according to the graph - see paragraph 2.3.

                        The tragedy has been the increase in mortality since the 92nd year.
                        But I never denied it
                        There was a collapse in the birth rate and an increase in mortality. Lots of factors worked

                        An excellent article on the causes of this mortality and its impact on the age and sex structure.
                        http://ecsocman.hse.ru/data/113/909/1217/015Demchenko.pdf

                        Such are the "billions shot personally by Gorbachev"
                        It remains only to repeat - linear extrapolation to determine the victims - illiteracy. To lump together increased mortality due to a complex of social factors and direct victims of repression is demagoguery.
                      18. 0
                        23 September 2021 07: 25
                        Quote: Engineer
                        To lump together increased mortality due to a complex of social factors and direct victims of repression is demagoguery.


                        And what is the increase in the Central Asian republics began to fall? And the increase (the biggest_ 60-70) when the hole was the deepest 13 million... And you will not tell about the millions of migrants (Russians, Russian-speaking) from certain republics. And it didn't. What about the reasons?
                      19. 0
                        26 September 2021 15: 24
                        engineer, and you can't do without the word trend ???
                      20. +1
                        22 September 2021 10: 19
                        for 30 years. are 70 -75 million.

                        And you do not understand that there is a "small" difference between the actual death toll and "demographic losses", which include "at the same time" and those "who could have been born, but were not born."
                      21. +1
                        22 September 2021 14: 41
                        Quote: Terran Ghost
                        Don't you understand


                        I understand everything (see above).
        2. +1
          22 September 2021 11: 12
          I strongly suspect that Ryzhov, unlike you, read the full version of The Archipelago - not abridged and specially edited by Solzhenitsyn's widow for publication in the USSR. From which she, grudgingly, had to remove passages about "patriots-Vlasovites", humane and compassionate German invaders. And much more.
  27. +3
    21 September 2021 10: 48
    Well, well, I expected something like this. A fiery diatribe, emotional and passionate. I have similar comments when it is necessary to bleed the inner steam. smile
    Solzhenitsyn, of course, is a vile person, but at least someone, at least something good about him said? Maybe we should see who and what exactly?
    Another question: did Solzhenitsyn's views somehow change with age? What he wrote in his youth and closer to old age - is it really the same thing?
  28. +5
    21 September 2021 10: 49
    To the author, Vivat! To go in the right direction, albeit against the course of the river, is not given to everyone, but many are beyond their strength. Why, we say one thing, but do another, who approves provocative textbooks and educational programs, whence vulgar performances on the stages and stage, and mediocre films in the box office? What and how are all these public councils on culture, science, education and human rights under the President, the State Duma commission and "any" Governments engaged in edge! Or maybe this is a hint of a possible declaration of independence of the Russian states?).
  29. -9
    21 September 2021 11: 12
    Solzhenitsyn's inaccuracies are in many ways forgivable, for he wrote for the FIRST TIME about something that OFFICIALLY did not exist in the USSR: not hundreds of thousands of those executed fellow citizens for the YEAR (08.1937-08.1938, almost in SEVEN HUNDRED TIMES more than in 1936), neither many millions who died of hunger with unprecedented cannibalism, nor many MILLIONS exiled uncondemned baptisms, "declassed" peoples, political, etc. first of all, the authorities themselves lied, fearing the publicity of what they had done.

    lies in the article, rigging, agnosticism and manipulations are no longer permissible, because, unlike Solzhenitsyn, a lot of documentary information, previously carefully hidden by the cowardly authorities, is available.

    The secret report of the VKPB instructor Velichko dated August 3, 1933 about the island of cannibals Nazino on the Ob:
    On the 29th and 30th April of this year, two echelons of declassed elements were sent to the labor settlement from Moscow and Leningrad.

    On May 18, the first and May 26, the second echelons, consisting of three barges, were landed on the Ob River at the mouth of the river. Nazina, to Nazina Island

    The first echelon consisted of 5 people, the second - 070. In total, 1 people. On the way, especially in barges, people were in extreme conditions. serious condition: poor diet, crowding, lack of air, massacres ..., in the first echelon mortality reached 35-40 people a day.

    ... First of all, up to forty were carried ashore. corpses, and because it was warm and people did not see the sun, the gravediggers were allowed to rest and then start their work. While the gravediggers were resting the dead began to come to life. They moaned, called for help, and some of them crawled along the sand to people.
    The island turned out to be completely virgin, without any buildings. People were landed in the form in which they were taken in cities and at train stations: in spring clothes, without bedding, many are barefoot.

    Moreover, on the island had no tools, no food crumbs, all medicines were taken back in Tomsk.

    commandant of the Aleksandrovsko-Vakhovsky district commandant's office Tsypkov "Let go ... Let them graze."

    On the second day of arrival it snowed and frost hit. People covered with ice were only able to burn fires, sit, lie, sleep by the fire, wander around the island and eat rot, bark, especially moss, etc. for three days no food was given to anyone... Fires and smoke spread across the island.

    People began to die.

    They burned alive by the fires during sleep, they died from exhaustion and cold, from burns and dampness that surrounded people.

    The cold was so hard to bear that one of migrant workers climbed into a burning hollow and died there in front of people Soon it began occasionally, and then in rampant cannibalismO. First in the remote corners of the island, and then, where the case turned up.

    People were killed, raped, tortured, not rescued, mocked and called jackals by the escorts. The fact that the unimaginable was done with these many THOUSANDS of uncondemned people can be read in the testimony and testimonies of witnesses (they cut off living tied women ...).

    The result of this atrocity, from the report:
    As a result, out of 6 people who left Tomsk, plus 100–500–600 people. (it was not possible to establish exactly), transferred to the Nazinskie sections from other commandant's offices, on August 700 there were 2 200 people.
    This will be more than 1% percent per day, let the benevolent writers count.

    The absurdity and horror of what is happening to people is striking, from the report:
    there are random elements of ours among those who arrived at the labor settlement. Most of them died.
    some of them brought documents with them: party cards and candidate cards, KSM [3] tickets, passports, certificates from factories, passes to factories, etc.

    facts of people misreference:
    Novozhilov Vl. - from Moscow. Compressor plant. The chauffeur was awarded 3 times. Wife and child in Moscow. After graduating from work, he and his wife went to the cinema; while she was dressing, he went out to fetch some cigarettes and was taken.
    Guseva is an elderly woman. Lives in Murom, her husband is an old communist, chief designer at the station. Murom, work experience 23 y., Son - machinist's assistant in the same place. Guseva came to Moscow to buy her husband a suit and white bread. No paperwork helped.
    Zelenin Grigory - He worked as an apprentice of a locksmith at the Borovsk weaving factory "Red October", was traveling with a voucher for treatment to Moscow. The voucher did not help - it was taken.
    Gorshtein Gr. - Member of the KSM since 1925. Father - a member of the CPSU (b) since 1, a worker at a gas plant in Moscow. Gorshtein himself is a tractor driver at the Panyashkovo state farm in Verkh-Nyachinsk. I went to see my father. Taken at the train station [when] just got off the train. The documents were on hand.

    Etc.

    Let me remind you that these people, like many many MILLIONS of those who were exiled and died in the uncondemned cities, were NOT included in the author's blissful false figures (they were not judged) and this is pure manipulation. Let me also remind you that a MILLION CHILDREN was exiled in the 1930s and a MILLION CHILDREN of the repressed peoples, and 80% of the deaths of the exiled are CHILDREN (Letter from the People's Commissar Tolmachev).

    The author has an absolute lie both in the numbers of the rehabilitated and in the statements about non-political "spies" (yeah, the Political Bureau, 75% of the Central Committee are "spies", marshals too, Stalin's relatives, etc.), the number of repressed, etc.

    The weakest article by a respected author ...
    1. +3
      21 September 2021 14: 51
      Here he drew an under-repressed Vlasov. And your place is on the gallows next to Solzhenitsyn and Vlasov.
      1. +1
        21 September 2021 15: 27
        Nda ... In whom, in whom, and in volunteers, hangers and informers, we will never be short of. Both literally and metaphorically.
        1. -4
          21 September 2021 15: 37
          Quote: Ashes of Klaas
          and in volunteer hangers

          What I like about these new hangers is the sacred confidence that it will be they who will hang, and NOT THEM.

          As their beloved 30s showed, it was in vain: more than one generation of zealous executioners of the 30s was, in turn, assiduously shot. lol
          Etc.
          1. -2
            21 September 2021 23: 59
            Ezhov Nikolai Ivanovich, with a tight-knit gauntlet, will not let you lie, and Lavrenty Palych, who did not trust everyone, and then he himself "got out of trust" laughing
          2. -1
            22 September 2021 00: 42
            that it will be they who will hang, and NOT THEIR
            And they will hang for utilitarian reasons, for example, the gallows will be three-seater according to the project laughing
      2. -6
        21 September 2021 15: 45
        Quote: Kayala
        Here he drew an under-repressed Vlasov. And your place is on the hangиthe face next to SLEZHENitsin and Vlasov.

        Russophobic New Hangman lol does not even know how his instrument (hanging) sounds correctly in Russian.

        And nothing can object, except for hysterical screeching. lol

        Shame ...
    2. -1
      26 September 2021 15: 30
      Olgovich Not weakly raved, not weak. I will advise you this: do not eat filthy mushrooms and do not smoke all kinds of rubbish.
      1. -1
        26 September 2021 15: 51
        Quote: ermak124.0
        not weakly raved, not weakly. I will advise you this, do not eat filthy mushrooms and do not smoke all sorts of rubbish

        It didn’t help you, but it’s ugly to advise others.

        you eat filthy mushrooms and smoke all sorts of rubbish, otherwise you would not rave about delirium.

        Everything is TRUE for me. Can you refute? What? No?

        As there bursting feces said: "Ou, oo and oo!" And you don't follow, yeah .. hi lol
  30. +2
    21 September 2021 11: 37
    When he died, Putin visited the widow with such tenderness and reverence ... Tell me who your idol is - and I'll tell you who you are ...
    1. +5
      21 September 2021 11: 53
      I just want to remind you - during the years of the rise of the traitor in the West, Putin was an officer of the KGB of the USSR, with membership in the CPSU. So he admired Solganitsyn at the same time? Dissident in disguise? An enemy with duplicity? Oathbreaker? Traitor? There are so many questions that I do not need answers to ...
  31. -2
    21 September 2021 11: 44
    What is more pleasing: the overwhelming majority of readers agree with the position of the author. 10 years ago it would have been 50 to 50. And 20 years ago it would have been 20 to 80. That is, people start turning on their brains, developing critical thinking and pushing them all anti-Russian (synonym - anti-Soviet) nonsense, as before, it is more and more difficult.
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    2. -4
      21 September 2021 14: 56
      The vast majority of readers of what?
  32. -3
    21 September 2021 14: 54
    Is it quoted free transcriptions or quotes? If quotations, then it is customary to indicate the edition, volume, page. The archipelago is a great work, for example, I read it a long time ago, you can't remember everything.
    1. -4
      21 September 2021 23: 35
      Well, here, for example, like this, Lenin V.I.
      343
      TELEGRAM TO THE EASTERN FRONT REVOUNSOVET

      625
      E. M. SKLYANSKY
      8 / VI, 21/2 a.m.

      Answer me.

      ...... It is necessary to intensify the taking of hostages from the bourgeoisie and from the families of officers - in view of the increasing frequency of betrayals. Come to an agreement with Dzerzhinsky.

      Give Melnichansky (signed by me) a telegram that it would be a shame to hesitate and not shoot for failure to appear ...
      (shoot family members) Written June 9, 1919
      First published Jan 21
      1937 in the newspaper "Pravda" No. 21.

      Manuscript printed
      INSTITUTE OF MARXISM-LENINISM AT THE CPSU Central Committee

      V. I. LENIN
      FULL COMPOSITION OF WRITINGS
      FIFTH EDITION
      PUBLISHER
      POLITICAL LITERATURE
      MOSCOW • 1970 volume 50 page 343.
    2. kig
      0
      27 September 2021 11: 42
      These are not quotes. The entire paragraph, which is in italics, consists of phrases that have been pulled in different places in the Archipelago, and, moreover, arbitrarily connected in completely different words. I don't know if the author himself came up with such a form or took the finished one from someone. It seems that the author of the Archipelago himself did not read at all.
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 20: 58
        Although I have read the Archipelago for a long time, I would have remembered this - for sure. I drove the first "quote" into the search engine - a bunch of links to similar articles (not one to the text of A. I.) So, the author simply diranul them, apparently. Chased the blizzard in the square winked, hack.
        1. kig
          +1
          28 September 2021 02: 56
          For example, a quote (allegedly) "The Germans, firstly, amazed the population with their courtesy and gallantry." My Archipelago is open in the Word, it is very easy to search - but there is no such text anywhere. About "gallantry" is said in the section, which describes the crimes for which they were imprisoned:

          First of all, who were they in terms of age when they converged with the enemy not in battle, but in beds? Probably not older than thirty, or even twenty-five. This means that they were brought up from the first childhood impressions after October, in Soviet schools and in Soviet ideology! So we got mad at the fruit of our hands? Some girls were impressed by the fact that for fifteen years we did not get tired of shouting that there is no homeland, that the homeland is a reactionary invention. Others are bored with the puritanical blandness of our meetings, rallies, demonstrations, cinema without kissing, dancing without hugging. Still others were subdued by courtesy, gallantry, those trifles of a man's appearance and external signs of courtship, which no one taught the guys of our five-year-olds

          or about the pianist:

          The famous pianist Vsevolod Topilin was not spared during the drive of the Moscow people's militia and was thrown with a Berdan gun in 1866 into a Vyazma sack. But in captivity, a German major music fan, the camp commandant, took pity on him - he helped him to become an ost-sheep and so start to give concerts... For this, of course, Topilin received a standard top ten from us.
  33. +2
    21 September 2021 16: 16
    Was "taken back" as a compensating additive for the West. They say we are friends. But ... That was then. And now we are all invited to decide what is good and what is bad. What we will accept and what will be rejected by the garbage. After all, he "repented" the bastard at the end of his life, sang differently, but it was too late, sins cannot be prayed for. Congratulates, calls it "the salt of the Russian land"? Well, duck the darkest, as always, over the fight. All sisters have earrings. Like, choose for yourself, forget it yourself. So for 20 years, a lot has gone into oblivion or on the side of "not good". A lot has been found. One Immortal regiment is worth something. So let's go. We will determine the place for it ourselves, the time has come long ago to separate the grain from the chaff ...
  34. +2
    21 September 2021 16: 58
    Solzhenitsyn and Vlasov caused damage to the Soviet Union, you have a problem with that, but Solzhenitsyn, in particular, influenced the thinking of young people. This is the greatest betrayal. That is why in 1968 the soldiers were called the occupiers. I read these things, judging what is true and what is false, it was difficult and difficult even today. There is no high-quality political and social propaganda of the Russian Federation. We love you, but Putin called us a purely hostile state. I ask why? This is the policy that the Anglo-Saxons impose on us, and people are even ashamed to say: "I am a Slav." We can be in NATO, but with arms in hand, Czech or Slovak will not fight the Slavs, so I can feel it !!!!
    1. -3
      22 September 2021 01: 53
      [Solzhenitsyn and Vlasov caused damage to the Soviet Union
      Solzhenitsyn has to do with Vlasov what he wrote about him in his writings, nothing more. Vlasov did not influence the "Collapse of the Union" at all, tk. had been hanged much earlier.
      Vlasov is quite a successful commander of the beginning of the Second World War. Before being captured, he refused to leave his soldiers in the cauldron and be evacuated by plane to the rear. Unlike many others. The fact that he did not pull his cross further, then God is his judge. He answered for this. What is significant, then, is that the most real and iron in words, the first to rip off and show their back, if anything ...
  35. +2
    21 September 2021 17: 03
    At one time, a major mistake was made - as soon as this Abwehr poster had opened its smelly mouth, it should have been grabbed and impaled on Red Square. No prison, no camps - just a long, shameful and painful steal with the stigma "Abwehr whore" on this disgusting hara.
  36. +2
    21 September 2021 17: 07
    Monuments to Solzhenitsyn, the Yeltsin Center, the unheated Chubais, the remaking of laws for the business of their friends - everything says that since 1991 nothing has changed, the course is the same - the collapse of R.F. and extermination of the Russian people.
  37. +7
    21 September 2021 18: 50
    It is good to wipe it out from everywhere as an enemy of the people and biomass. Second day literate, politically correct and undoubtedly objective articles as well.

    By the way, in Belarus, Solzhenitsyn was successfully thrown out of the school curriculum not so long ago, it is significant.
    1. 0
      21 September 2021 23: 05
      In the Russian Federation, the minimum suitable amount of general physics and mathematics was thrown out of the school curriculum. Politically loyal gentlemen comrades.
  38. +4
    21 September 2021 21: 01
    Thanks to the author for this article. The lies and truths from Solzhenitsyn are so mixed up that it is very difficult for an ordinary person to figure it out. But in part he crossed the red lines, which is not acceptable. True, his life was the same. On the edge and beyond. The Russian Kremlin has already done a good job of promoting itself on this, however, the Kremlin has been promoting itself not on this either. Expose!
    1. -2
      21 September 2021 22: 52
      The lies and truths from Solzhenitsyn are so mixed up that it is very difficult for an ordinary person to understand
      , simply, to read AI "an ordinary person" is not able, in your opinion, and to draw their own conclusions.?. Or is this "ordinary" person so stupid that he needs moronic opuses like this article?
      1. -2
        22 September 2021 00: 34
        The person who put a minus. Do you really need works like this article in order to understand the works that you have not read and are not going to read? For what, oh, clarify ...
        1. 0
          22 September 2021 11: 45
          For what, oh, clarify ...

          You see, simply, to paraphrase Orwell - "aggressive-imperial jingoistic patriotism is a state of unconsciousness." Reflection and questions "why" are like death for him. Instead of them, something completely different is assumed - selfless (up to the readiness to kill and not only die oneself, but also to give the lives of the people closest to you) love for the ruler (yam) and equally blind hatred for "enemies" and "traitors." Without thinking about how, during the reign of the same I.V. Stalin (Dzhugashvili), at times the transformation of yesterday's "bright Bolshevik and true Soviet patriot" into today's "exposed enemy of the people, a spy and a traitor" took place with lightning speed. Alas, it happened more than once, not twice, and not even a dozen times ..

          Well, "for a snack", as they say
          https://ria.ru/20181211/1547797642.html
          1. +1
            23 September 2021 23: 04
            I understand this perfectly, but I cannot pass by. laughing
  39. +1
    21 September 2021 21: 56
    How fashionable it was in the "saints" of the 90s to quote this "greatest".
    He was very popular in the former USSR. In his youth, he considered him a "victim" of the regime, and the teacher of literature was zealously pushing this Archipelago.
    I tried to read twice: in the 11th grade and it looks like at the age of 30. It didn't go, nonsense ...
    1. 0
      21 September 2021 23: 08
      And what has "gone" "diot" (this is not a curse, if, what), for example, or "Luzhin's Defense"? It's funny that the title of F.M.'s novel does not pass.
      1. -1
        23 September 2021 12: 14
        The monastery has entered (Zakhara Prilepina)
        1. +1
          23 September 2021 22: 54
          This is good, in the sense, Prilepin, and so on. A.I., of course, is not a genius of literature, the syllable is heavy, but here they spread him according to invented quotations, and if you, as you say, hardly read him, then what is the point of expressing an opinion or judgment?
  40. 0
    22 September 2021 07: 19
    Quote: vladcub
    "and a traitor" I will slightly correct the ideological saboteur. It will be more accurate

    And who, then, is the one who opened the monument to him? winked lol
  41. +1
    22 September 2021 08: 21
    I read the comments of Solzhenitsyn's defenders. What can I say? Not a single objection to the essence of the article and the data it contains, only attempts to divert the discussion aside and rather petty attempts to offend and provoke the author, who usually enters into a dialogue. But he quite rightly ignored these would-be commentators contemptuously. Because what should he talk about with people who cleverly throw sixes against trump cards?
    Judge for yourself:
    1. Is the author right in calling Solzhenitsyn an incompetent graphomaniac? Yes, he is right, and he put it mildly.
    2. Is the author right when he writes that Solzhenitsyn slandered close friends and even his wife, and was a camp informer? Undoubtedly.
    3. Is the author right when he claims that the figures and facts cited by Solzhenitsyn cannot be trusted? Yes.
    4. Is the author right when he writes that Solzhenitsyn praises the Vlasovites and tries to justify the actions of the Germans in the occupied territories? Yes.
    5. Is the author correct when he says that Solzhenitsyn called for US sanctions against his homeland and, consequently, against his compatriots? Yes.
    6. Is the author right when he claims that dissatisfaction with all kinds of “Yeltsin centers” and the installation of extremely dubious monuments and memorial signs is growing and spreading in Russian society? Yes.
    So why are you, gentlemen, disgraced by sitting down to play with sixes against a partner with trump cards? If you have nothing to argue precisely on the merits of the article?
    I am reminded of an "immortal" phrase from a 90s commercial:
    "Sometimes chewing is better than talking."
    1. -2
      22 September 2021 10: 32
      trying to justify actions

      However, the author did not provide evidence of this. The "quote" he quoted is extremely dubious in origin (probably fake).
      Solzhenitsyn called on the United States for sanctions against

      The government of the USSR had officially deprived A.I. Solzhenitsyn of citizenship of the USSR and expelled from the country. That, to put it mildly, does not contribute to love for this very government of the USSR.
      1. -1
        22 September 2021 10: 56
        And you know, my dear man, that for publication in Russia Solzhenitsyn's widow reduced the Archipelago by 4 times ?!
        Can you guess what the "shortened" three-quarters say?
        If the people read THIS, even the entire National Guard will not save Putin's monuments to Solzhenitsyn.
        1. -2
          22 September 2021 11: 31
          If it does not make it difficult, you do not want to present the evidence that such reductions took place to the public to begin with?
          Well, oh yes. The GULAG Archipelago was published in the Soviet Union in 1990. A.I. Solzhenitsyn (Heavenly Kingdom to him!) Died in 2008.
          1. -1
            22 September 2021 11: 46
            Initially, they were afraid to print everything that was written in it. And Svetlova-Solzhenitsyn began reluctantly to beat out pieces about the hero-Vlasov, and the Vlasov patriots, humanists from the SS and the Gestapo, excellent conditions in prisoner of war camps, and so on. And also the craziest and most implausible pieces of the repression and the "Gulag". Don't you know that?
            1. -2
              22 September 2021 11: 48
              Can you provide proof of your words? And not your personal fabrications based on something incomprehensible.
              1. -1
                22 September 2021 12: 01
                Are you too lazy to open a search engine and see? Is it all on a silver platter?
                For example, Svetlova-Solzhenitsyna says:
                “I did not include the Vlasov army here at all ... AI Solzhenitsyn greatly enlarged this section in the second edition. I decided to completely eliminate this, because our society is not ready to discuss it today. Let the decades go by when people will discuss this. "
                And there is a lot of this - on a variety of resources, including the official state media.
              2. +1
                22 September 2021 12: 03
                Quote: Terran Ghost
                Can you provide proof of your words? And not your personal fabrications based on something incomprehensible.

                It is enough to look at the profile of the Persian to understand Who is there. The author is a little ashamed to publicly defend his nonsense.
          2. +1
            22 September 2021 17: 27
            Solzhenitsyn's falsity is already at least in the statement that under the USSR there were "60 million victims."
            And all who are for Solzhenitsyn are Russophobes, or stupid, or both, two in one. Just turn on your brains and think - why is the "guardian for the Russian people" supported by the obvious and undisguised enemies of the Russian people, eh? I'm asking you the same question!
            I believe that everyone who supports Solzhenitsyn's ideas is, yes, the very enemies of the Russian people.
    2. -1
      23 September 2021 01: 13
      The fact is that, at least, the first "quote" is a lie, well, I did not check the rest, I give for a hundred rubles, that too. The author of the article is, how to say it, kizdit.
  42. 0
    22 September 2021 09: 30
    As they say, God marks rogue. In this case, the surname. Ideologically and politically, our country is in a complete impasse, while Gorbachev and Yeltsin are "luminaries of democracy", and not state criminals, traitors and traitors, and Solzhenitsyn is a "great writer" and not a slanderer and scoundrel.
    1. 0
      22 September 2021 13: 04
      He is not rather small than large, but otherwise everything is correct. ,
  43. +1
    22 September 2021 15: 11
    So much has been written about this shit and even monuments were erected by our government, this means our government is false, like Solzhenitsyn, the power of thieves and saboteurs, people see and understand everything and draw conclusions, and this power in schools drives all lies into the heads of children, therefore - our children without a "tsar in their head" are victims of the Unified State Exam, who learned to hate their history from liars and are ashamed, therefore Kolya from Urengoy spoke in the Bundestag in the words of Solzhenitsyn, and monuments and all sorts of centers are erected to the enemies of the people, this is some kind of obscurantism ... ...
  44. +2
    22 September 2021 16: 53
    Quote: Stas157
    Quote: Ingvar 72
    So he considers EBNa a great reformer, and every year he carries flowers to his grave.

    It can't be! You hear? All this is machinations! As well as the palace near Gelendzhik !!!)))


    What's wrong with the palace ??? Analchiki clearly made up with him.
  45. +1
    22 September 2021 16: 57
    It is high time to officially recognize Solzhenitsyn as a literary liar, ban his books, demolish the monument, cancel the renaming of Bolshaya Kommunisticheskaya Street, and forget this name forever.
  46. +1
    22 September 2021 17: 19
    Solzhenitsyn was an anti-Soviet. But the truth is that ANY anti-Soviet is a Russophobe.
    And the trouble with Russia is that today it is precisely the anti-Sovietists who are in power, who consider Solzhenitsin and people like him heroes.
    In Ukraine, the Banderaites are heroes, in Russia, the Vlasovites are not heroes - YET not heroes, and due to the obvious flaw of the Russophobes. But Solzhenitsyn has already been introduced into the school curriculum, the Mausoleum has been closed for a long time on May 9, they have long been trying to whitewash Krasnov, Shkuro, a monument to the war criminal Kolchak has been standing in Irkutsk for a long time, the authorities have already begun to pour slop on the communists and demonize them - and in Ukraine, too, everything began with the glorification of the Banderaites, and with attacks on the communists.
    1. -2
      22 September 2021 17: 55
      But the truth is that ANY anti-Soviet is a Russophobe

      Do not mindlessly repeat other people's nonsense. Russophobia is a fundamental hostility towards Russians as a group of people based on ethnicity. And just that. Nothing else is Russophobia.
      Anti-Stalinism (negative attitude specifically towards I.V. Stalin (Dzhugashvili), and the ideology and politics that this statesman pursued) is not Russophobia in itself. Criticism and even condemnation of the policies pursued by the state authorities in Russia is also not in itself Russophobia.
      1. +1
        22 September 2021 18: 07
        "Criticism and even condemnation of the policy pursued by the state authorities of Russia is also not in itself Russophobic" - yes, especially considering that this policy itself is in many ways Russophobic. Only now, either the Russians themselves, or the citizens of Russia themselves, have the right to criticize it, but not traitors like Vyrusi, the former Russian Solzhenitsin, and not others hostile to Russia and the Russian state.

        There is a TRUE - that the anti-Soviet is ALWAYS a Russophobe, because ALL anti-Soviet-act to the detriment of the Russian people, no matter what slogans they hide behind. And "dislike for a group of people on the basis of nationality and ethnicity" is nothing more than Nazism, aggressive radical nationalism, you are mistaken, disrespectful supporter of Solzhenitsyn.

        At this point, I would like to end the conversation with you, I wish you all the worst, goodbye.
        1. -2
          26 September 2021 19: 20
          Quote: Alt22
          There is JOGSTINA - that an anti-Soviet is ALWAYS a Russophobe, because ALL anti-Soviet are acting to the detriment of the Russian people

          what's wrong with you?

          Bolshevik Russophobes STEALED FIVE MILLION km2 of territory from Russia and the Russian people, created FIFTEEN ANTI-RUSSIA on them (Ukraine, Kazakhstan, etc.) people, were terribly robbed in favor of 15 and ANTIROSSIYA, drunken to the wild with alcohol, stopped giving birth and began to die out.

          TENS of thousands of RUSSIAN monuments, unique temples, millions of Russian books, icons, frescoes torn in, burned and chopped up, blown up / looted MAIN monuments of the Russian people / cemeteries OV1812, PMV, RYAV, RTV, RPV of the year in Borodino, Moscow, Vladimir, St. Petersburg, Kronstadt, Sevastopol, Petrozavodsk, etc., blown up / looted MAIN monuments and graves of the Heroes of the Russian people Minin and Pozharsky, Bagration and Nakhimov, Lazarev and Radetsky and so on, and in the temple to the Heroes of Shipka ... a toilet was made and Russophobes washed themselves on plates with the names of the fallen heroes, etc.

          All this ... did the Russophiles create ?! fool
          1. 0
            27 September 2021 15: 42
            For a long time I have not met SO INadequate POST.
            To begin with, the myth about "the Bolsheviks stole" is just a myth. It was not the Bolsheviks who "stole" it, but GATHERED THE COLLAPSING COUNTRY!
            You don't know the history, if you please read the list of republics and separate formations into which Russia fell apart after the coup of the liberals in February:


            "and the Russians there FORCEDLY re-educated in some kind of" Ukrainians "" - another illiterate and deceitful nonsense. There were Ukrainians before the Bolsheviks - under the ethnonym "Little Russians". Have you seen the results of the population census in the Republic of Ingushetia? Russians were called "Great Russians", Ukrainians - "Little Russians". All together - they were called the Russian peoples. Not "Russian people" - namely, in the plural - RUSSIAN peoples. Here is a close-up from the population census of the Republic of Ingushetia especially for you:

        2. kig
          0
          27 September 2021 11: 28
          You have invented this truth for yourself, and you believe in it. This is called mythomania.
    2. 0
      26 September 2021 20: 55
      Quote: Alt22
      But the truth is that ANY anti-Soviet is a Russophobe.

      Vlasov, Krasnov, Shkuro - Russophobes? belay
      1. 0
        27 September 2021 15: 43
        Yes, they are traitorous enemies who fought against the Russian people on the side of the enemies of the Russian people.
  47. +1
    22 September 2021 18: 54
    Still, one should not deny the repressions before the war, although the majority have a very ambiguous attitude towards Solzhenitsyn, one should not forget that the taboo over repressions was slightly open ... In my family, my great-grandfather was taken just before the war for a greasy anecdote, I think, about the mustachioed leader of all peoples. Although maybe a work colleague leaked ... the truth is, in the death act, it was stated that he went into another world from volvulus ... Is it really so richly tempted ??
  48. +1
    22 September 2021 19: 11
    Maybe not tolerantly, but I will repeat my final opinion about S? And speaking of the "archipelago", it was a business project from the very beginning. Saga Nikitushka ordered him, "But in October his little mannech, then we learned the whole truth about him: That he awarded Nasser,
    What he clocked with three,
    And what was itching forever in his ass. "(Tm).
    And the replacements were not eager to pay for this feces.
    And he went to the city of Paris ... to look for a new sponsor.
  49. +1
    23 September 2021 01: 53
    But now there is an advertisement for a new film based on Solzhenitsyn - Ivan Denisovich. Someone is actively pushing this business, littering the brains of the younger generation. True, I think they are struggling in vain, young people do not look at it
    1. +2
      23 September 2021 22: 46
      Youth, she, feminine, singular.
  50. 0
    24 September 2021 10: 07
    how much more of this kind in the vast expanses of the Motherland?
    the most deplorable cases are the education system of our children, grandchildren
    do we talk a lot with them about this? showing where "cutlets, and where are the dung flies"?
    hence and "if from Urengoy"
  51. kig
    0
    25 September 2021 12: 35
    Regarding Solzhenitsyn’s quotes: could the author provide a link to where they are from? I would like to read for myself what else was said there, but searching through all his works... something is troublesome.
    1. 0
      26 September 2021 19: 35
      Read the Gulag Archipelago.
      1. kig
        0
        27 September 2021 02: 27
        I read it once, and I started The Red Wheel, but I couldn’t finish it - the syllable was very unusual.
  52. -1
    26 September 2021 18: 18
    “The camp for Soviet prisoners of war near Kharkov was a very well-fed camp; among the commandants of the camps there were downright humane philanthropists.” My uncle, my mother’s brother, Pavel Georgievich Siluanov, born in 1922, was captured in October 1941. He died in the Masyukovshchina camp (Stalag 352) on February 1, 1942 from typhus, hunger and wounds. In those days, there were 130-140 thousand people in the camp, and up to 400 people died per day. The most humane patrons of the arts. "The victims of the Stalinist repressions were 66,7 million people." The late father-in-law was captured in the first weeks of the war, managed to survive, was released in July 1944, passed the test and finished the war in the Army until Victory. There were never any complaints against him from the authorities or bodies; he had medals, certificates, and received an apartment. Despite three years in captivity!
  53. +1
    26 September 2021 19: 33
    Where does the minus come from? Answer me, Solzhenoid!
  54. 0
    2 October 2021 19: 26
    Solzhenitsyn is a product of Andropov and Co.
  55. 0
    4 October 2021 14: 29
    The facts of this character are very well revealed in A. Fursov’s book De Secreto. just read and look at all the lies of the “cultural intelligentsia”
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  57. 0
    9 December 2021 09: 11
    Quote: Terran Ghost
    The government of the USSR had officially deprived A.I. Solzhenitsyn of citizenship of the USSR and expelled from the country. That, to put it mildly, does not contribute to love for this very government of the USSR.


    Dislike is not yet hatred. Moreover, not only the USSR Government would suffer from Western military aggression against the USSR.
    There is hypertrophied egoism and narcissism, since Solgunitsyn puts his grievances above the lives of other people.
  58. 0
    9 December 2021 09: 30
    Quote: Arzt
    Solzhenitsyn will be read. Simply because we have not written anything more ambitious on this topic.


    No, they will not do. Including because it was included in the school curriculum. The most reliable way to discourage reading the subject.
    And who will read? Young people with their clip thinking?
    A little more time will pass and they will firmly forget about him. "The Moor did his job..."
    Few people read Chaadaev these days either.
  59. 0
    14 December 2021 08: 11
    But the shamefully dead citizen Solzhenitsyn composed only works of fiction, not documentaries, so all his work can safely be called the fantasies of a bearded enemy of the people.
  60. 0
    18 October 2022 16: 39
    Solzhenitsyn is of course a talker. A sort of storyteller, with retellings of what he “heard”))
    If anyone wrote the truth about the camp life of that time, the life of the “politicians” in the camps, it was only two people. Varlam Shalamov and Oleg Volkov. These people knew what they were writing about.