A special vehicle of demining groups based on the UAZ-2363 pickup truck entered service with the Pacific Fleet's engineering regiment

Engineering divisions of the Pacific fleet began to receive into service special vehicles of demining groups based on UAZ-2363. The vehicle, specially designed for the engineering troops, entered the separate naval engineering regiment of the Pacific Fleet. This was reported by the press service of the fleet.

A special vehicle of the demining group (SAGR) was created on the basis of the UAZ-2363 pickup truck and is intended for transporting sappers and transporting explosives of the 1st degree of danger without fuses. SAGR has an armored capsule body, reinforced chassis and special rubber.

The special equipment of the vehicle includes a container for transporting detonating equipment, a rack for stowing and transporting explosive objects (EOP), metal boxes of special equipment, etc. The vehicle is equipped with a mine detector, a gradiometer, a trenching tool, fencing straps, a ladder, a winch, a stretcher for carrying GPs and first aid kits.

The crew consists of four people, including a group leader, a driver and two sappers.

Deliveries of the first special vehicles of demining groups based on the UAZ-2363 began this summer, small batches have already arrived at the engineering units of the military districts, the Northern Fleet and the Aerospace Forces units.

Comments

[22 dmdc]

At the Pacific Fleet OMIB is castrated, less than 200 bayonets. True, they wanted to call him a regiment of the first stage.

[TRex]

Down there, the whole discussion boiled down to criticism of the UAZ as a base car. I don't know - it will rot in a year, or in two ... A year ago I saw the new Patriot in the cabin - the quality is ugly, under the rubber band of the rear door seal and around it there are fingerprints from our highly qualified assemblers. You can see how they smear with their hands on the opening either putty or mastic. In short, the new car looks disgusting. I didn't buy it.
I have my own opinion on the special purpose - at one time serving in the 160th OMIB (Sevastopol), more than once or twice I had to transport FAB-50, FAB-100, FAB-250 for mine clearance, the warhead from Vanyusha and other dimensional items, including even bombs during the war of 1853-1855. A specially equipped ZIL-131 was used for this, there was also a GAZ-66. Looking at the presented photos, I would like to ask - the car is sharpened for the transportation of what? And what will happen to the crew, if God forbid ...? Some kind of toy capsules. Carry cartridges? Is there an armored backrest for the crew? How thick? How much does it weigh?
In my opinion, this is another window dressing. They are so trendy now. Innovation, in a word ...

[Ros 56]

It’s you in vain, this is a carriage for sappers, well, maybe some grenade to take out for recycling. And large ammunition on a truck will be taken out on occasion. And in terms of the quality of the cars, you are right, it has long been necessary to impose sanctions on the UAZ and the hopmenagers to be fined for a decent amount, such as in the region of a six-month income, it may come. In our country, it doesn't get through the head, it gets through the butt. It has been tested empirically, how a couple of monthly salaries, together with a premium, are covered with a copper basin, the head starts to work, the legs are somewhere carrying something to check.

[rjpthju]

The engineering troops adopted a French formation system: a battalion, a brigade, bypassing a regiment, then a corps.

[faiver]

designed for transporting sappers and transporting explosive items

- is it not safer to carry explosive objects in a special trailer?
I would also like to know what for on the car builds a snorkel?

[Bashkirkhan]

Quote: faiver

I would like to know what for a car builds a snorkel

On domestic machines, the snorkel is something special.

[faiver]

Well, actually this is how we live

[potterz]

Yes, in fact, we ourselves do so. We ourselves !!!

[KrolikZanuda]

Inexpensive and works. What is the problem? Or do you need to channel funds towards developing a more expensive solution that will raise the cost of the car?

[Ingvar 72]

Quote: Bashkirkhan

On domestic machines, the snorkel is something special.

If the quality of polypropylene is good, I see no reason not to use sewer pipes in a car. Why we are talking about quality, it is very different. For example, the German Ostendorf quality of the material is very different from SaratovPlastic, or the same Politek. And if you need a pipe of a certain diameter, then why not use suitable pipes with good characteristics.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: faiver

I would also like to know what for on the car builds a snorkel?

Probably for the same as the power bumper, winch and arch extensions - to look brutal, no worse than Toyota LK 79.
Let's see what will happen to him in the climate of Primorye in a couple of years ... Will it rot faster than Nissan?

[-Dmitry-]

Probably for the same as the power bumper, winch and arch extensions - to look brutal, no worse than Toyota LK 79.

Do you think the mined areas or the explosive devices will be located exclusively on the asphalt?

[Lynx2000]

Quote: -Dmitry-

Do you think the mined areas or the explosive devices will be located exclusively on the asphalt?

Do you understand sarcasm? Seriously though, nothing prevents the VU from installing on the side of an a / road with an asphalt bed. In your opinion, this UAZ will be a good "rogue" in Primorskaya, Sakhalin or Kamchatka areas?

[-Dmitry-]

Do you understand sarcasm? Seriously though, nothing prevents the VU from installing on the side of an a / road with an asphalt bed. In your opinion, this UAZ will be a good "rogue" in Primorskaya, Sakhalin or Kamchatka areas?

Sarcasm can be different, if it is addressed to the one who asked about the snorkel, then the rules :) But it is perceived to the UAZ :)

For wheeled vehicles it will be quite normal.

[Lynx2000]

Sarcasm is an evil irony, specifically in relation to a modern UAZ. TO faiver I have no reasons for ridicule, the more interest in the comment ...

[-Dmitry-]

Sarcasm is an evil irony, specifically in relation to a modern UAZ.

You are off road personally used, or have you just heard? That is, according to your UAZ-469 is better? :)

[Lynx2000]

The 469th was used back in the 90s, my father had an apiary in Altai. UAZ-3741 traveled to Kamchatka. In Altai, the older brother of the UAZ 3303 family had a UAZ Patriot Pickup 2014 onwards. It was very problematic, several times the rear right axle shaft rolled out of the axle (I bought a new axle), problems with the fuel system and computer, problems were in the manual transmission, off-road qualities were so-so: hard connection of the front axle h / w RK gives torque distribution m / d axles 50/50 and that's it, there is no rear axle differential lock, there is no front axle either. Very rotting !!!
There were also Pajero 2, T-Surf 130, Toyota 4Ranner 4, T. FJ K, Hammer H3, N.-Hterra, and workers of TLK 105, N-Safari.

[-Dmitry-]

Was UAZ Patriot Pickup 2014 onwards It was very problematic, several times the rear right axle shaft rolled out of the axle (I bought a new axle), problems with the fuel system and computer, problems were in the manual transmission, off-road qualities were so-so: hard connection of the front axle h / w RK gives torque distribution m / d axles 50/50 and that's it, there is no rear axle differential lock, there is no front axle either. Very rotting !!!

UAZ 19 model year, or even on the machine, is much more reliable than UAZ 13 model year. And the rear axle lock is now an option, on the civilian Patrick + electronic locks - so in terms of off-road qualities it is much better than the old 469. As for the UAZ for the military, these systems may well run normally. So your sarcasm is not appropriate.

There were also Pajero 2, T-Surf 130, Toyota 4Ranner 4, T. FJ K, Hammer H3, N.-Hterra, and workers of TLK 105, N-Safari.

Do you suggest purchasing this for the military?

[Lynx2000]

Quote: -Dmitry-

UAZ 19 model year, or even on the machine, is much more reliable than UAZ 13 model year. And the rear axle lock is now an option, on the civilian Patrick + electronic locks - so in terms of off-road qualities it is much better than the old 469. As for the UAZ for the military, these systems may well run normally. So your sarcasm is not appropriate.

Can I get more details about the blocking?

Simulated cross-axle locks (optional ESP function from Bosch). The plant offers as an option a rigid electronically controlled rear differential lock that can be fitted to any version of the Patriot, even the basic one. The Eaton unit costs 29 rubles.
So tell me, does the stock Patriot have a standard rear axle differential lock?
Tuning and self-installation do not count.
For that kind of money, the build quality, service, the choice of internal combustion engines (gasoline / diesel, volume more / less) should be at the level. In the meantime, I would not want the civilian or military to be repaired more than used for their intended purpose.

Quote: -Dmitry-

Do you suggest purchasing this for the military?

By the way, the second generation Nissan X-terra was purchased in a military modification for the US National Guard troops and American border guards.
As well as the Hummer H3 model, GM participated in the same supply tender.

[-Dmitry-]

So tell me, does the stock Patriot have a standard rear axle differential lock?

I wrote, it comes as an OPTION. What is such an option in the course? And this only applies civil versions... As for what is in Patrick for the military, they do not know, and neither do you.
For snorkel,

power bumper, winch and arch extensions

together are not included in any civilian configuration. So the question is also not in the box office.

But I can say that the civilian off-road version is equipped with a lock, a trunk, and a ledebka
https://www.uaz.ru/cars/patriot-expedition

Tuning and self-installation do not count.

In the photo for the article - does it look like tuning or self-installation? 150% of everything is installed at the factory, even simply to avoid hemorrhoids with the legitimization of all changes made to the design. And yes, these are far from stock Patricks.

[Lynx2000]

So that's what the option is (dopa - if it's clearer to you) I know. Who made the diflock? Do you yourself actively exploit the UAZ Patriot? Do you understand the difference between imitation of blocking and difflock?
Snorkel, arch extensions (I see a simple removal due to disks, increases the load on the wheel bearings), a power bumper, in which a winch is installed, and the bumper attachment points, if not reinforced in place on the frame, will cut off the bumper.
The fact of the matter is that many look at these listed "shalagushki", the color of the military and the type of "mud" rubber. First of all, I'm interested in what has been done on the body, transmission part and engine compartment, so that a utilitarian car, first of all, is not only maintainable, but also reliable.

[-Dmitry-]

Snorkel, arch extensions (I see a simple removal due to disks, increases the load on the wheel bearings), a power bumper, in which a winch is installed, and the bumper attachment points, if not reinforced in place on the frame, will cut off the bumper.

Do you consider yourself smarter than factory engineers? If you are not aware, any change in design must be made with the receipt of a safety expert opinion. Otherwise, the plant simply will not be able to make such a complete set.

The fact of the matter is that many look at these listed "shalagushki", the color of the military and the type of "mud" rubber. First of all, I'm interested in what has been done on the body, transmission part and engine compartment, so that a utilitarian car, first of all, is not only maintainable, but also reliable.

And therefore, without even knowing what has been done there, make a verdict that these are all "rascals"? That is, your conjectures all work out ...

By the way, the second generation Nissan X-terra was purchased in a military modification for the US National Guard troops and American border guards.
As well as the Hummer H3 model, GM participated in the same supply tender.

For the price of a new Nissan or Hummer, you can buy some of the most sophisticated Patrick.

[Lynx2000]

Do you seriously think that a snorkel, arch extensions, installation of wheel disks are a serious modernization associated with a design change ?!
How many times have I noted that a technical review of technology is limited to a description:
comfortable chairs, a new multimedia system, a new steering wheel, air conditioning, restyling of lighting equipment, bumper and false radiator grille design.
If it is not said about the transmission, engine, suspension units (reinforced or modernized), then there is nothing to say - there are no changes !!!

Regarding the X-terra, the second generation model was purchased in 2015, 2012 onwards. cost 1,5 million rubles. including shipping and customs clearance, the military version is cheaper.
How much did the UAZ Patriot cost with a gun and differential lock? rear axle, with automatic transmission in 2012 - 2015?
I remind you once again that the attitude of UAZ towards customers is very upsetting - and so it will do. What do you think, is the modern UAZ Patriot worth the money for which it is sold?

[-Dmitry-]

Do you seriously think that a snorkel, arch extensions, installation of wheel disks are a serious modernization associated with a design change ?!

And who was talking about:

Snorkel, arch extensions (I see a simple removal due to disks, increases the load on the wheel bearings), a power bumper, in which a winch is installed, and the bumper attachment points, if not reinforced in place on the frame, will cut off the bumper.

You really decide.

If it is not said about the transmission, engine, suspension units (reinforced or modernized), then there is nothing to say - there are no changes !!!

It doesn't mean anything. But apparently you yourself are a fan of making judgments only by the picture.

I remind you once again that the attitude of UAZ towards customers is very upsetting - and so it will do. What do you think, is the modern UAZ Patriot worth the money for which it is sold?

How do you know, WHAT stands in special car for sappers? Did you personally touch and feel him? Do you know what is there about the transmission, electronic assistants, and so on? And what have civilian versions and a special vehicle to do with it? It was about him that your evil irony was.

How much did the UAZ Patriot cost with a gun and differential lock? rear axle, with automatic transmission in 2012 - 2015?

In 2020, the fattest equipment on the machine, with all special stages, cost 1.3 thousand rubles. On the mechanics, 150-200 thousand is cheaper. In 2015, there were no submachine guns. Yes, and the current special stages too.

Regarding the X-terra, the second generation model was purchased in 2015, 2012 onwards. cost 1,5 million rubles. including shipping and customs clearance, the military version is cheaper.

Are you offering the army to buy ancient cars from 2012? Such an auction is not possible in principle.

[Lynx2000]

Do not distort, I wrote about these "rascals" that they do not particularly affect off-road qualities and are not modernizations.
I always believed that a special car is a civilian version of a car used for government services and departments (Mediposche, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Federal Penitentiary Service, etc.) that does not entail any special changes in the base chassis and body.

What in this UAZ I will find out in the near future, since I live in the Far East, but so far in the UAZ Patriots, which are operated in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation, I have not seen anything different from the civilian (no blocking) except for the khaki color ...

[-Dmitry-]

Do not juggle, I wrote about these "shalagushki" that they do not particularly affect off-road performance

Have you climbed a lot on off-road? Something is not particularly visible. Only one off-road rubber raises the off-road qualities of a stock car at times. This is not to mention the winch, blocking, etc.

I always believed that a special car is a civilian version of a car used for government services and departments (MedPosch, the Ministry of Internal Affairs, the Ministry of Emergencies, the Federal Penitentiary Service, etc.) that does not entail any special changes in the base chassis.

And you try to put a snorkel on your car and tell the traffic police that the changes in vehicle design you did not contribute :) Do you have a car? :)

but so far in the UAZ Patriots, which are operated in the RF Ministry of Defense, there is nothing different from the civilian (no blocking)

Have you seen many special vehicles in the RF Ministry of Defense? Just a painted green Patrick, this is not a special car. A special car is, for example, an ambulance based on the UAZ-Profi or Gazelle.

[Lynx2000]

When there are no arguments, they get personal. Let's measure ourselves with "muddy" tires, or who has a longer snorkel ?! Do you often wander deeper than 1 meter? There is nothing to do in the field without an inter-axle (except for Part-time) and at least a rear interwheel blocking (you can do without a front one). You can completely do without a winch, having a cable, an anchor and a pulley block / pulley block, good chains for M / T or A / T rubber. You can get your mud rubber very quickly on a gravel grader.
Until from the dialogue with you I saw in you a straight "jeep". About the car answered you. Which car do you own, where do you operate it?

[-Dmitry-]

When there are no arguments, they get personal. Let's measure ourselves with "muddy" tires, or who has a longer snorkel ?!

Where have you seen the transition to personalities? My assumption is not a transition to personalities, but it is quite natural - you tell any jeeper that rubber, a winch, arch extensions, a snorkel do not affect off-road performance. You don't even have to be Vanga, what he says.

Do you often wander deeper than 1 meter?

Me not. But the sappers of the Pacific Fleet can quite often. In my opinion, it is you who are trying hard to translate the whole conversation onto me.

There is nothing to do in the field without an inter-axle (except for Part-time) and at least a rear interwheel blocking (you can do without a front one).

I, without locks, only on 4Vd (Vitara), and on mud tires, it was quite normal for me to get to the hunting place, of course it was not hard "", but rather mediocre, but the fact is, to assert that the winch, rubber, arch extensions and snorkel "shalagushki" and do not increase off-road performance is nonsense. And even without knowing what kind of transmission is on the special car.

[Lynx2000]

I drive a Nissan X-terra, 2012 onwards. 4-XPro equipment, Dunlop Grandtrek AT3 276/70/16 tires behave well on gravel and stones, there are chains for dirt and deep ruts, this rubber holds them well, does not break through the cord, since the sidewalls are reinforced, but the rubber heavy but reliable.
The work is connected with trips to the coast of Kamchatka. There is an office N.-Safari, but it is a "collective farm" after someone for trips of 600-700 km you have to climb to see.
You can do without a winch if you do not climb off-road at all, which is what I wrote about. Moreover, in the case of landing on the sand in the surf, I put a spare wheel in the sand as an anchor.
At home, on the mainland, his wife drives a 3 Hummer H2009 Adveture. (two-stage RC, inter-axle and rear interwheel blocking), well, a country house, a lot of snow every year began to fall out.

As you wrote, what you assume, and I assume that the transmission on this UAZ is the same as on the stock one.

[-Dmitry-]

As you wrote, what you assume, and I assume that the transmission on this UAZ is the same as on the stock one.

Did I just give you a link to the expeditionary Patrick? On Patrick's with a conventional transmission, UAZ does not put such dopas in principle, I mean factory Patrick's in the model line. So there is a 90% chance that the rear lock is there.

[Lynx2000]

I’ll find out. But, I don't think that there will be special stages for the army, the price will increase ...

[-Dmitry-]

I’ll find out. But, I don't think that there will be special stages for the army, the price will increase ...

Rear axle blocking costs (cost in 2020) something about 30-35 thousand. Not that much money.

[salad]

I'm wondering if the UAZ is even treated with anticorrosive for the defense industry, or how are they selling rusty floors to our citizens from the inside?

[Dkuznecov]

If the metal is lousy, AND IT IS LITTLE, no anticorrosive will help.

[Ryaruav]

there is no sadder story in the world than the story of the Oise-patriot

[rjpthju]

As the Ukrainians would say: Peremoga! UAZ entered service with the Pacific Fleet ...

[Borisych]

I saw a car at an exhibition in August, full-time, is in service. A normal vehicle for the movement of sappers. the equipment is displayed next to the machine, in containers. It can be used only for the transportation of small explosive items, if necessary, and for solid items, a cargo vehicle in the appropriate design is needed.

[Galleon]

Well, that time has come when they write news about one received MO UAZ. Breakthrough!!! No swing, ... !!

[Ros 56]

I hope they will not forget the rest, because our country is large.