New mobile railway missile system tested in North Korea

North Korea has developed a mobile railway missile system. The North Korean military tested the new complex on September 15, according to an official report from the Central Telegraph Agency (CTAC).

Pyongyang confirmed the launch of two ballistic missiles on September 15 at a target in the Sea of ​​Japan. According to the official statement, the purpose of the tests was to confirm the practical applicability of the new mobile railway missile system. It is emphasized that before this, the complex was not tested.

As part of the tests, the complex for the railway. On the way, he moved to the mountainous terrain, from where he struck with two missiles at targets in the Sea of ​​Japan, located at a distance of 800 km. The exercises were recognized as successful. Other details, as well as the characteristics of the complex are not given.

The CTAC report indicates that a railway mobile missile regiment has been created in the North Korean armed forces, which will eventually be deployed into a brigade. The regiment is deployed as part of a new defense strategy with the aim of delivering a "simultaneous concentrated strike" against the enemy.

Earlier it was reported that on September 15, the DPRK launched two unidentified missiles towards the Sea of ​​Japan. Prior to that, on September 11 and 12, North Korea tested a long-range cruise missile.

Comments

[Cat Alexandrovich]

All that remains is to congratulate Korean scientists, industrial workers, and the military on their next success. This is if there is no politics.

[Zaurbek]

Comrades are following the Soviet path.

[Basarev]

This means that the exposure of the personality cult, detente, perestroika, disintegration and horrors of the nineties are inevitable. I want to believe.

[Zaurbek]

The best option for them is Chinese. And a united Korea would be a strong player in the region ..... which is not needed by any of the neighbors.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Can I go back to the cult and the like? I understand that it is impossible, but I really want to ... :)))

[Hypertension]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Can I go back to the cult and the like?

Can. Tickets to Pyongyang from Moscow cost from 40 thousand, and the trip takes 9 days.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

I am much closer ... Moscow - Moscow ... You will achieve the fact that apart from Moscow there will be nothing in Russia. I know Moscow and Muscovites ... And what kind of substitution of concepts? I said what I want during the time of the cult, you poke me with North Korea - do you have a conscience? Or do you want me (and others like me) just to be kicked out of the country to seize power? So I got you through. :)

[Hypertension]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Or do you want me (and others like me) just to be kicked out of the country to seize power?

I don't want to push anyone out of the country. But you must agree that the DPRK is such a reserve of the Soviet system / power with its own flavor and mentality.
So, if you miss those times, then you can quench your nostalgia a little by going on a tourist trip to the DPRK.

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

So I got you through. :)

I knew that my comment would be extremely primitively interpreted, they say, I mean - a suitcase, a railway station, Pyongyang ... Moreover, some kind of fierce nonsense started, like:

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

You will achieve the fact that apart from Moscow there will be nothing in Russia. I know Moscow and Muscovites ...

[Peak]

New mobile railway missile system tested in North Korea

Very scanty data are given in the news report, although at the moment in the open access for a long time there is much more extensive information about the event (at least in the illustrations).

[Aleksandr97]

In this case, the Big Brother, if anything, will slightly correct the Younger Brother ...
From the speeches at the conference on the 90 anniversary of the CPC
The conference demonstrated that the problems of the destruction of the USSR are comprehensively and most carefully studied by scientists of the PRC.
Chinese scientists emphasize that the withdrawal of the Soviet Union from the world stage became a tragedy for the Russian people, led to the disintegration of the whole system of socialist countries, and significantly worsened the situation of the peoples of all developing countries.

[Starover_Z]

Quote: Zaurbek

Comrades are following the Soviet path.

I would not be surprised if with the same developments. And then the States once did not complete their own, and North Korea, like a devil from a snuffbox, has now appeared.

[paul3390]

And we are all told tales about the type of beggar and wild DPRK. Forgive me - but wild countries do not even dream of developing railway missile systems. To bungle such a thing takes tremendous efforts in many industries. And since the Juche are capable of this, then the reality in the DPRK is somewhat different from that declared by the liberals ..

[For example]

Quote: paul3390

And we are all told stories about the type of beggar and wild DPRK.

It is you, senor, who have now called the Koreans wild.
Sane people do not call North Korea wild.

The people there are beggars. It is a fact.

So our people are poor, with the exception of those who sold the country and privatized.
Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan and Krasnodar live, but the overwhelming majority of the people survive.

[Lynx2000]

Quote: For example

Quote: paul3390

And we are all told stories about the type of beggar and wild DPRK.

It is you, senor, who have now called the Koreans wild.
Sane people do not call North Korea wild.
The people there are beggars. It is a fact.
So our people are poor, with the exception of those who sold the country and privatized.
Moscow, St. Petersburg, Kazan and Krasnodar live, but the overwhelming majority of the people survive.

You are wrong, Paul's comment does not have a double meaning, on the contrary, it concludes that in the DPRK such results cannot be achieved only by the poor and hungry, according to the "West".

[Cosm22]

"... such results cannot be achieved only by the poor and hungry"?
Everything is relative. They can. History knows many examples of this.
Outstanding minds, designers and specialists sat in the Soviet GULAG.
Bartini, Korolev, Glushko, Myasishchev, Petlyakov, Polikarpov, Tupolev, Yavorsky ...
These convicts worked miracles in sharashkas.
It was impossible to call them rich at that time. They did not die of hunger, but they obviously did not eat black caviar, sturgeon and smoked sausage.

[bayard]

Quote: Cosm22

Outstanding minds, designers and specialists sat in the Soviet GULAG.
Bartini, Korolev, Glushko, Myasishchev, Petlyakov, Polikarpov, Tupolev, Yavorsky ...
These convicts worked miracles in sharashkas.

And how long did they sit in those sharashkas?
Or were these sharashka invented by Beria (the head of the NKVD since the end (!) Of 1938) precisely to save these designers and talented engineers? Slandered by their colleagues (the same Glushko declared and testified against Korolev) at the time of Yagoda (Sverdlov's cousin and Andropov's uncle) and Yezhov? While their cases were being reviewed.
And revised in the direction of justifying cases, there were hundreds of thousands!
And Rokosovsky was under arrest - under a firing squad.
And under Beria, his and many other military commanders' cases were revised, people were rehabilitated, and many of those who perpetrated this unlimited were executed.
And the same Rokosovsky never blamed Stalin for what happened, on the contrary, he respected infinitely and did not join the Khrushchev / Zhukov conspiracy. And he did not make a libelous statement against him, although they asked him on behalf of Khrushchev.

Quote: Cosm22

It was impossible to call them rich at that time. They did not die of hunger, but they obviously did not eat black caviar, sturgeon and smoked sausage.

Almost all of them became academicians. And the academicians in the USSR under Stalin received many times more than the members of the Central Committee and the higher parties. and state. nomenclature.
And if you look at what the little PRC has achieved in conditions of isolation and the most severe sanctions, then it remains only for good to envy the stamina, hard work and dedication of these people.
But once we were an example for them.

[Cosm22]

And what is this verbal sheet for?
Colleague, the essence can be expressed in two sentences, speaking of the superior comment.
Were the named convicts at the time of their development work in the sharaga rich people? The answer is unequivocal - no.
Were these people well-fed in the understanding we are accustomed to today at the same moment in time? No.
Everything else is a stream of verbiage.

[bayard]

These people were in full prosperity before their arrest, and in even greater favor and prosperity after their rehabilitation.
So why cry?
About the "atrocities of the Stalinist repression machine"?
Was she really Stalinist at that time?
Led by Berries?
Under the leadership of Yezhov with Yagoda's minions as assistants?
With the "old" Bolsheviks "in troikas?
But my ancestors said that after 37 years of age, life became better, arbitrary atrocities ceased. "They healed well" - and this is in the exile-settlement. During hard labor in logging in the Ural Mountains.
I knew one person - a serious scientist, whose father (a former priest) was shot by the decision of the Moscow "troika" at the Butovo training ground in 1938 ... And the family was told that he received 10 years without the right to correspond.
So he honored the memory of Stalin until his last days and kept the complete collection of his works. And he never blamed him for the death of his father, because he knew WHO signed his verdict. And what forces then fought for power.

Quote: Cosm22

Everything else is a stream of verbiage.

Quote: Cosm22

Were these people well-fed in the understanding we are used to today at the same moment?

There are few moments in life.
During the Second World War, there were definitely more of them. And with more good people.

And Koreans are great.
Both northern and southern.
And we have ?
What are the successes? Besides resource trading?
Yes, Soviet developments in the military-industrial complex?

[Lynx2000]

Quote: Cosm22

"... such results cannot be achieved only by the poor and hungry"?
Everything is relative. They can. History knows many examples of this.
Outstanding minds, designers and specialists sat in the Soviet GULAG.
Bartini, Korolev, Glushko, Myasishchev, Petlyakov, Polikarpov, Tupolev, Yavorsky ...
These convicts worked miracles in sharashkas.
It was impossible to call them rich at that time. They did not die of hunger, but they obviously did not eat black caviar, sturgeon and smoked sausage.

Do you measure everything with sausage? Sikorsky in America, at first, also interrupted himself from bread to water.
In general, it is not for me and you to judge what motivated these outstanding people in the first place: the embodiment of their ideas in real structures, the conquest of the sky and flights into space, or work out of fear for their lives? I'm sure the first thing ...

[paul3390]

It is you, senor, who have now called the Koreans wild.

You know, respected sitayen - I was always amazed, where in our times there are so many conditionally literate people .. They can write, they don’t read .. The letters seem to know, to comprehend the text read - in no way .. Is it really like mental victims of the exam ??

[Lynx2000]

Quote: paul3390

And we are all told tales about the type of beggar and wild DPRK. Forgive me - but wild countries do not even dream of developing railway missile systems. To bungle such a thing takes tremendous efforts in many industries. And since the Juche are capable of this, then the reality in the DPRK is somewhat different from that declared by the liberals ..

There is a saying in China: Live in peace. Come spring, and the flowers bloom themselves.
In England: l live and let live.
For the Germans: Live and let live (Leben und leben lassen).
Derzhavin G.R. (1743 - 1816) in his book "Notes from events known to all" (1812) wrote: "Although Derzhavin pleased the empress with such deeds, he often got bored with his truth, and as she used to say: live and live let others, and acted in such a way that at the birth of Queen Gremislava to L.A. Naryshkin, he said in an ode: But not at the expense of another; Always be content with your own, Do not touch anything else. "
For Russians: Live yourself, let someone else live.

They live in the DPRK, let them live.

"Live and let others live,
But not at the expense of the other;
Always be happy with yours
Don't touch anything else:
Here is the rule, the path is straight
For the happiness of everyone and everyone. "
/ Derzhavin G.R. /

[Nikolaevich I]

Quote: paul3390

And we are all told tales about the type of beggar and wild DPRK. Forgive me - but wild countries do not even dream of developing railway missile systems.

Well, I will not say anything about the "degree of saturation" of the apartment of the North Korean car mechanic worker with household radio equipment ... but the schools and universities of the DPRK amaze with their excellent equipment with educational equipment and manuals! They do not spare anything to get a very educated graduate of the school, a competent specialist with a capital letter after the university ...

[Sergey M. Karasev]

It turns out that they have electric traction on the railway. And someone still thinks that, apart from wood-fired steam locomotives, there are no other locomotives in the DPRK.
By the way, the locomotive with the BZHRK, at least in the upper part, is very similar to our "Mashka" (M62), which were driven by our BZHRK.

[Zaurbek]

The USSR burned out on consumer goods and in short supply .... On banal jeans and VCRs ..... Bah, and there is no country.

[Evil 55]

The Koreans remember well the bloody Japanese occupation, so in the event of a conflict, they are able to plant Hiroshima mushrooms all over the islands ..

[tralflot1832]

What is cooler than the DPRK (they have no problems with railway tunnels) is the railway complex or the South Korean DPL with six BR mines. Koreans will populate! I don't like Koreans, they eat dogs.

[For example]

Do you love the French? He eat frogs.

Some snot are eaten. They are called oysters.

Do you love?

[tralflot1832]

I love oysters, there are no frogs.

[For example]

Quote: tralflot1832

I love oysters, there are no frogs.

I am calm.
You were the one who got nervous.
Do you love the French or not?

ps
I didn't give you a minus.

[tralflot1832]

Why should I love them?

[prior]

I don't like Koreans, they eat dogs.

You can imagine the attitude of the Indians towards us!
Their cow is a sacred animal, and we have beef on both cheeks ...

[tralflot1832]

Yeah, a sacred animal is a cow in India, a ban so that they do not eat. India ranks first in the export of beef in the South Pacific region, 1,1 million tons of beef export. We are in this issue before the Indians as to the moon. You are shocked! I was also, when I found out.

[prior]

Wow! Wow!
In this situation, we can hope that they are not very angry with us for beef. Can we throw pork at them then?

[tralflot1832]

It seems that the Chinese have tasted our pork with chicken, they will manage. Everything is within reason, I love bacon.

[paul3390]

And they say it is not beef, but buffalo meat .. Buffaloes are not banned ..

[tralflot1832]

Sorry to export buffalo meat, they say it is not a cow.

[Zaurbek]

This is buffalo .... you cannot kill cows from Buddhists.

[alch3mist]

This is buffalo .... you cannot kill cows from Buddhists.

It is necessary to tell Belarusians a life hack: to sell Argentine beef to Indians, saying that it is bison.

[Zaurbek]

Hindus do it themselves

[Hypertension]

Quote: prior

You can imagine the attitude of the Indians towards us!
Their cow is a sacred animal, and we have beef on both cheeks ...

Judging by the price of beef, our cow is also sacred.

[Zaurbek]

This is generally expensive meat ...... get out of the habit. All poultry and pork trends. those who have no money - leftovers from poultry and collagen.

[Sands Careers General]

I don't like Koreans, they eat dogs.

And I ate dogs, though Russian. So what?

[Zaurbek]

Are Russians forbidden to eat dogs?

[Sands Careers General]

Who will forbid us to eat them? Like bears, snakes, horses and other animals?
We do not have haram, and kosher food)))

[Zaurbek]

And the Buddhists do. Cow

[Sands Careers General]

And I am not against delicious beef steak, hot and cold))

[prior]

Interesting guys, these North Koreans.
They don't have Gazprom, they don't have Rosneft.
Isolation and sanctions as possible.
And they are on you - BRZhK!
Perhaps we still do not have BRZhK because we have Rosneft and Gazprom?

[Nexcom]

This is precisely because Gazprom does not have any other "effective" public - that is why they make such a jew's harp. Again, they don't let you steal there - they'll shoot you right at the wall.
They have no one to rely on, only themselves, even China does not help them much.

[hagen]

Quote: Nexcom

Again, they don't let you steal there - they will shoot you right at the wall.

Are you an expert on the DPRK? Or by the level of theft in Russia? Or maybe you know how to increase the efficiency of Gazprom's work? What are you doing here then? You should immediately get into the chair, at least, of Miller's production advisor ... and teach him how to work. He, the mattress, probably does not know what he should be doing ...

[tralflot1832]

A person does not know that in North Korea there are also new Koreans close to the emperor. There they have such a fun park of cars, and driving is a pleasure. Maybe one car is yours for 1 km and there are no traffic jams or encounters.

[Nexcom]

Are you an expert on the DPRK? Or by the level of theft in Russia? Or maybe you know how to increase the efficiency of Gazprom's work? What are you doing here then? You should immediately get into the chair, at least, of Miller's production advisor ... and teach him how to work. He, the mattress, probably does not know what he should be doing ...

I just had to talk to one person who knows the DPRK very well and has been there in owl time. I do not think that something has changed fundamentally in politics. As for Miller, I prefer to be in the right place. At the same time, my education is enough for me to realize what is happening, at least in the most general terms. I take my leave for this ...

[hagen]

Quote: Nexcom

I just had to talk to one person who knows the DPRK very well and has been there in owl time. I do not think that something has changed fundamentally in politics.

Maybe your friend was visiting Kim Il Sung? In those days it was possible to say, and indeed they said, that the DPRK is the country with the least corruption. But since the 90s, and even more so today, it is one of the most corrupt states in Southeast Asia. You may not know, but today from 30 to 60 GNP of the DPRK is produced in private enterprises, that is, opened by private individuals, but registered by the state. Despite the fact that in the open press (DPRK media), you are unlikely to find references to the private sector of the economy. I'm not even talking about the fact that a democratic (by name) country is ruled by a dynasty, like a monarchy Long ago they switched from ideas to commodity-money relations with all the ensuing consequences. Bribes there flow from bottom to top like our Irtysh, or even more completely.

Quote: Nexcom

At the same time, my education is enough for me to realize what is happening, at least in the most general terms.

Unfortunately, your education did not allow you to understand the limits of your competencies. As you know, the lower it is in a person, the more he imagines himself to be a leading figure in all industries and conversational topics. And if you decide to accuse Gazprom of inefficiency, then take the trouble to give a concrete example of the manifestation of this "disease", only not from the media from semi-journalists, but something from the expert community. I see that Gazprom: 1. works; 2. pays all taxes and salaries due to him (as a rule, such that he cannot get through to a vacancy); 3. there is no information about the alleged bankruptcy yet; 4. By its actions, the GP can plunge into a state of horror the political leaders of the countries of our enemies. What makes me happy today. Want to refute? Please, only truthfully and specifically.

[hagen]

Quote: prior

Perhaps we still do not have BRZhK because we have Rosneft and Gazprom?

Most likely because there is no anonymous Internet in the DPRK. And everyone who does not like the state structure of the DPRK residents very quickly finds themselves on the construction of a new railway with a shovel in their hands.

[Nexcom]

not only shovels "treat". there are still camps for political re-education. brainwashed from politically wrong thoughts are not completely lost. completely lost are shot without regret.

[hagen]

Quote: Nexcom

not only with a shovel. there are still camps for political re-education. brainwashed from politically wrong thoughts

Once upon a time, at large "Komsomol construction sites" we carried out political information to builders after the morning verification .... The country at this time showed unprecedented rates of economic growth. Here, some simply yearn for "breakthroughs", not realizing that the leading figures of economic development are based on the foundations of broken human destinies and even lives.

[Nexcom]

Personally, I don't yearn for such breakthroughs. Please do not fantasize. I just meant that the fifth column is not there and it is unlikely that it will appear there. But this does not mean that I support such an inhuman approach.

[hagen]

Quote: Nexcom

Personally, I don't yearn for such breakthroughs. Please do not fantasize.

And where did you notice my appeal directly to you? Read the comments to the relevant articles, and you will make sure that there are a lot of them here.

[Nexcom]

So I was wrong. Sorry.

[hagen]

Quote: Nexcom

So I was wrong. Sorry.

It's okay, it happens ... Maybe I somehow did not quite unambiguously expressed myself ...

[paul3390]

Here, some simply yearn for "breakthroughs", not realizing that the leading figures of economic development are based on the foundations of broken human destinies and even lives.

Well, yes - and Putin's type of stability, of course, has no effect on people's lives and lives.

[hagen]

Quote: paul3390

Well, yes - and Putin's type of stability, of course, has no effect on people's lives and lives.

In the end we will all die ...

[prior]

Death is not terrible.
As long as I live, there is no death.
When it comes, I will not be there and I will not feel anything.
The disease is much worse ... it hurts here and now.

[hagen]

Quote: prior

The disease is much worse ... it hurts here and now.

Here is Putin's stability in the vein. Annual prophylactic medical examination with a paid day provided. Use ...

[prior]

Thank you for the free medical examination.
I still want to live ...
Otherwise they will find something, no money will be enough, and also a funeral ...

[hagen]

Quote: prior

Otherwise they will find something, no money will be enough, and also a funeral ...

Funerals are different. On some they sincerely cry from the loss, on others they sigh with relief, like, at the end ... They will find and cut off in time (for example) - you can still live on your own and in consciousness. But they will not find it, it will manifest itself in the form of a painful gradual extinction of certain functions of the body (I do not wish this to anyone). How this happens, I saw clearly.

[prior]

Or maybe enough about the sad.
I wish you good health and many years to meet on the pages of VO.

[tralflot1832]

And who controls their border with China? Their cars are not only driven by firewood. Sanctions against Korea's drushlak.

[For example]

Quote: prior

Perhaps we still do not have BRZhK because we have Rosneft and Gazprom?

Rosneft and Gazprom are well-known. But these are state corporations. And they dump a lot of dough into the budget. Of course there are irreplaceable managers who drown in the bubble, but ...

There are private traders who have privatized metallurgy, chemistry, forestry, whose fishing you have forgotten.
These radishes are selling everything, paying a penny.
And all the loot, excuse me - sold, is exported in the form of dollars to offshore.
And these pretzels took out an unimaginable amount of money.
And they continue to export while everyone is talking about Gazprom and Nord Streams.

[Nexcom]

And all the loot, I'm sorry - sold, is exported in the form of bucks to offshore

That is why they are taken out because no one is fighting against it. Only in words tryndyat. Would fight for real - this would not have happened.

[prior]

What to do. The President has many friends ........
But they are friends, you can't touch them.

[Nexcom]

You correctly named the reason, I agree with you. Friendship-crony power is at the helm.

[tralflot1832]

They only make money on monuments around the world. Is it easy to distinguish a Chinese from a Korean, for example, in Africa, at the construction site of a Chinese road?

[paul3390]

They don't have Gazprom, they don't have Rosneft.
Isolation and sanctions as possible.
And they are on you - BRZhK!

However, the Communist Party ..

[Bez 310]

"... the launch of two ballistic missiles on 15 September
... on September 11 and 12 tested a long-range cruise missile "
All this reminds me of our victorious reports.
And not only this...

[donavi49]

The estimated range is 750-800 km. We launched 2 rockets.

The southerners responded by launching an MRBM from a submerged submarine.

[rocket757]

New mobile railway missile system tested in North Korea

the rocket boy lights up, what else can you add?

[Zaurbek]

It looks like a train "Iskander" ..... we discussed something similar here.

[BISMARCK94]

Kimchik won't play enough war.
Why are they bzhrk? Where should he go?

[plant15]

The leader of the DPRK, Kim Jong-un, admitted that large-scale famine threatens his country. Speaking on Thursday at the 1995th conference of party secretaries of the ruling Workers' Party of Korea (WPK), the North Korean leader urged to prepare for a repetition of the "Difficult Campaign." This is what the official terminology calls the mass famine of 1997-XNUMX, which, according to UN estimates, claimed the lives of two million people.
April 10 2021
https://vz.ru/world/2021/4/10/1092667.html
It is a very appropriate and formidable reminder to all enemies of the Juche idea, relying on our own strength - "let them devour."

[Terran ghost]

This is what the official terminology calls the mass famine of 1995-1997, which, according to UN estimates, claimed the lives of two million people.

These are the "successes" of the "advanced" Juche-genomics, working on the principle "let the people die of hunger, but the prohibitive military spending is a" sacred "thing.
Actually, it is difficult to expect other results from the North Korean military and the filthy North Korean tyrant Kim Jong-un (may his remaining days in the world of the living be as short as possible, and death as soon as possible and fierce), and it is difficult to expect, with the antihuman system of ant pseudo-socialism they built ( in fact - ordinary fascism, which has nothing to do with socialism)

[paul3390]

mass famine 1995-1997

Uh-huh .. The country is in a tough blockade for hell knows how many years, can neither sell its products, nor buy food and lubricants. And the Union, from which the deliveries were coming, ended, Yeltsin ordered to sell only for currency at world prices .. And then a terrible cataclysm in the form of a flood hit the country .. But they survived, did not break .. So who is to blame for the famine - the Juche people , or those who blocked any opportunity for them to somehow save people?

On June 26, 1995, very heavy rains began in the country, and in some regions more than half a meter of precipitation fell in 10 days. In mid-August, the rain stopped, completely destroying the crops, and the total damage caused by the flooding was estimated at $ 15 billion. According to North Korean data, 1,5 million tons of grain were lost, the fertile layer on 330 thousand hectares of land was destroyed, 5,4 million people lost their homes. Roads and power lines were damaged

[Terran ghost]

The country is in a tough blockade, hell knows how many years, it can neither sell its products, nor buy food and fuels and lubricants

To begin with, this is suddenly not true. International sanctions against North. Korea followed in the early 2000s - for the military nuclear program North. Korea. At the same time, American sanctions followed under the Empergeny Econmic Power Act. Before that, of course, there were also American sanctions within the framework of the ancient (roughly the First World War) Trading with the Enemy Act, but the latter in NO way affect the relationship of "sanctioned entities" with any other countries. Simply put - until the early 2000s North. No one interfered with Korea's trade with China, even with the countries of Western Europe.

ordered to sell only for currency at world prices.

And it was absolutely the right decision. Why support the North Korean aggressive totalitarian and absolutely inhuman regime of ant false socialism (in fact, ordinary fascism) at the expense of Russian citizens?

those who blocked any opportunity for them to somehow save people?

Blocked by humanitarian food supplies to the North. Korea (544 thousand tons in 1995, 505 thousand tons - in 1996, 904 thousand tons - in 1997, 791 thousand tons - in 1998, 1 million tons - in 1999. Of these, deliveries from the USA - 1 million 35 thousand tons).

[alch3mist]

This is what the official terminology calls the mass famine of 1995-1997, which, according to UN estimates, claimed the lives of two million people.
April 10 2021
https://vz.ru/world/2021/4/10/1092667.html

Bravo! What an authoritative source - "look" !!!
Here, quite recently, another wrote:

A cup of rice a day. Mortality rates in the millions in 5 years and 13 political prison camps. But independent. Soon they will start eating each other

I had to answer:

Since 1953, the population of the DPRK has only grown smoothly. From 2005 to 2015 increased by a million and a quarter to 25+ million. What is the "death rate millions"? Turn on the brain.
Mortality rate per 1000 people in the USA (2018) - 8,2
According to the "Book of Facts" of the CIA, the death rate per 1000 people in the DPRK (2012) is 9,12. More, but not like Perdimonocles, huh? Or is the insidious CIA underreporting mortality data? Not otherwise, the dastardly Kim gave a bribe!

Well, if someone loves UN data so much, look here:

Something I'm in this curve according to the UN even in a microscope I do not observe a two-million famine.
Isn't it true that the stories about the mass famine in the DPRK resemble the screams about millions of political prisoners in Russia?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

Can I go back to the cult and the like? I understand that it is impossible, but I really want to ... :)))

If you can't, but really want to, then you must try!

[plant15]

Quote: paul3390

mass famine 1995-1997

Uh-huh .. The country is in a tough blockade for hell knows how many years, can neither sell its products, nor buy food and lubricants. And the Union, from which the deliveries were coming, ended, Yeltsin ordered to sell only for currency at world prices .. And then a terrible cataclysm in the form of a flood hit the country .. But they survived, did not break .. So who is to blame for the famine - the Juche people , or those who blocked any opportunity for them to somehow save people?

On June 26, 1995, very heavy rains began in the country, and in some regions more than half a meter of precipitation fell in 10 days. In mid-August, the rain stopped, completely destroying the crops, and the total damage caused by the flooding was estimated at $ 15 billion. According to North Korean data, 1,5 million tons of grain were lost, the fertile layer on 330 thousand hectares of land was destroyed, 5,4 million people lost their homes. Roads and power lines were damaged

Juche is self-reliance. What do they need blockades and so on? To whom are the claims?
About rains and floods. Do they go exclusively within the borders of the DPRK?
So that's what an island of bad luck you are. But what great ideas.

[Sergey Averchenkov]

Quote: Hyperion

I don't want to push anyone out of the country. But you must agree that the DPRK is such a reserve of the Soviet system / power with its own flavor and mentality.
So, if you miss those times, then you can quench your nostalgia a little by going on a tourist trip to the DPRK.

I agree with you in something - my friend's father served there - the egg production of chickens increased dramatically after Kim visited our factory ... But this is the 50s ... I think everything has changed.

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

So I got you through. :)

Quote: Hyperion

I knew that my comment would be extremely primitively interpreted, they say, I mean - a suitcase, a railway station, Pyongyang ... Moreover, some kind of fierce nonsense was going on,

Yes, you didn’t know anything, if I hadn’t read your messages before ... there would have been no answer, I prefer not to say if I see that there’s no point, well, or if something outraged me at all.

Quote: Sergey Averchenkov

You will achieve the fact that apart from Moscow there will be nothing in Russia. I know Moscow and Muscovites ...

There is no need to look for an enemy in me, I will be glad if Moscow takes care of the regions as of itself, but so far it looks like enslaved territories.

[Nickanor]

The Koreans could and did.
And as we started to develop it, they finished it.
They said that the money was not enough ...