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The Third Arms Revolution: A Major Taiwanese Entrepreneur on Modern Warfare

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Military technology has changed dramatically over the past two decades. If the first revolution in the military sphere was the invention of the firearms weapons (the appearance of gunpowder), the second is the appearance of nuclear weapons, now we are all watching the third revolution in the world of weapons - the emergence and introduction of artificial intelligence into the military sphere.


According to Kai-fu Lee, a major Taiwanese entrepreneur, the former head of Google China, the evolution from landmines to guided missiles was just a warm-up before the real autonomy of means of destroying enemy personnel and equipment using artificial intelligence. The introduction of AI into the military sphere will mean the possibility of conducting a full-fledged battle without human intervention. According to the expert, the active introduction of artificial intelligence into the military sphere will entail the emergence of new threats to humanity.

So, small drones are a great danger, which can be used to eliminate political opponents, commanders of enemy troops. For example, in 2018, a similar drone was used to assassinate the President of Venezuela. The cost of manufacturing the drone is quite modest. It can be bought for a thousand dollars, and this significantly reduces stakeholder costs. All components for the drone today, as the Taiwanese entrepreneur writes, can be found on the Internet.

The following risks are associated with the emergence of unmanned vehicles that can be used on the battlefield. Thanks to drones, firstly, the lives of soldiers should be saved, who, in turn, should have fought on the front line, and secondly, significant financial resources are saved associated with the need to ensure the protection of crew members.

Kai-fu Lee believes that the main problem associated with the use of unmanned systems in the military sphere is their inconsistency with the moral principles on which mankind has based all its activities for millennia. After all, artificial intelligence makes it possible for machines to take a person's life without being guided by any ethical considerations.

Such a machine will ignore surrender, in fact it is an instrument of murder, and this cannot but frighten us.

It is not for nothing that UN Secretary General Antonio Guterres said:

The prospect of introducing machines that lack circumspection and at the same time have the ability to take human lives is morally disgusting.

Ultimately, the existence of AI-controlled war machines makes it possible to lower the threshold of war and make it available to everyone, including terrorist groups.
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  1. knn54
    knn54 13 September 2021 16: 11
    +5
    Soon the drones will "beat off bread" from the killers.
    1. OgnennyiKotik
      OgnennyiKotik 13 September 2021 16: 13
      -1
      While the movie:

      And here's the reality:
      1. Intruder
        Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 06
        0
        According to the second video, the formation of a swarm is perfectly shown, with autonomous flight control and distribution over the terrain map, any single air defense system or ZAK, even a battery - may not cope with such saturation through target designation channels, two or three air targets will remain in flight and goodbye AFU radar complexes (you don't even need to hit the rest of the equipment, walk with small fragments, with a high-explosive effect on the antenna arrays), and without them, they are no longer complexes!
        1. OgnennyiKotik
          OgnennyiKotik 13 September 2021 17: 29
          0
          This year, 130 of these drones were launched from the C-1000. Classic air defense systems are powerless against this.
          1. Intruder
            Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 36
            0
            This year, 130 of these drones were launched from the C-1000. Classic air defense systems are powerless against this.
            In the course, I read it on the foreign Internet ... I'm now interested in the technique, on what the autonomous is implemented, which SoCs and from which manufacturer exactly and what types of warheads are there: OFBCH / KBCH or, something from the shock core and other purely " tech curiosity "!?
            1. OgnennyiKotik
              OgnennyiKotik 13 September 2021 17: 38
              0
              Warheads are secondary, you can take ready-made elements from cluster bombs. Brains and sensors are more important here.
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 41
                -1
                Warheads are secondary, you can take ready-made elements from cluster bombs.
                Well .., for combat effectiveness, first of all ... there are different goals, and now I wonder what and where, how exactly the implementation option, but brains and sensors ... well, this is understandable, without all this, we will be at 21 century, as grandfather Shipunov bequeathed: "do not shoot with locators .." !!!
                1. AlexeyEg
                  AlexeyEg 15 September 2021 00: 41
                  +1
                  All this can be implemented on a powerful STM32 microcontroller. How the cumulative charge works, I think it's not worth explaining to you .. How TensorFlow Lite for microcontrollers works, for example, nothing is impossible either. Navigation .. radio systems, ordinary chips, like on copters. In case of conducting electronic warfare, you can also think of a lot of things.
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 15 September 2021 08: 08
                    0
                    A powerful STM32 microcontroller can be implemented

                    It is better to take it immediately higher, by the level of the type: i.MX8M Mini SoM !? And already from this "push" in the implementation ... drinks
          2. Intruder
            Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 38
            -3
            So, an addendum on a related topic (BANK):
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 34
              -1
              Just don't show Timokhin ... Otherwise, he will be born with a series of abusive articles. With Self-PR and self-citation.
              Sincerely
              1. Intruder
                Intruder 13 September 2021 22: 13
                -1
                Just don't show Timokhin.
                Poznyak rush about, he probably already glanced over the evening coffee and will soon answer !?
                1. nobody75
                  nobody75 13 September 2021 23: 04
                  0
                  The person does not understand that there is one problem with the "toothy" rearmed corvettes - to recruit crews for them! And in 22160, specialists can be moved along the railway from the factory to the fleet along with a container of weapons. And a sea container will be delivered to a corvette in any port.
                  The main problem of the ships of the first and second rank is the low level of automation and the farm design of "unique" systems for a specific project. the Americans are developing the entire "ghost fleet" without crews ... And we ...
                  Sincerely
                  1. Intruder
                    Intruder 15 September 2021 07: 57
                    0
                    The main problem of the ships of the first and second rank is the low level of automation and the farm design of "unique" systems for a specific project. the Americans are developing the entire "ghost fleet" without crews ... And we ...
                    Sincerely
                    And we should not "crumple rolls" and look at the technological capabilities of the West, which we will not be able to catch up with, and strain our brains and think about new concepts for 20-30 years already and allocate a budget for this!
                    Sincerely,
    2. Volkof
      Volkof 13 September 2021 16: 47
      -1
      Taiwanese entrepreneur, 20 years behind .... With all due respect, what does he have to do with weapons ... Another ode to AI?
      1. poquello
        poquello 13 September 2021 18: 08
        0
        Quote: Volkof
        Taiwanese entrepreneur, 20 years behind .... With all due respect, what does he have to do with weapons ... Another ode to AI?

        similarly, firstly Taiwanese, secondly, something tryndit
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 13 September 2021 23: 19
          -1
          firstly Taiwanese, secondly, something tryndit
          Racial !? or technically ??? laughing
          1. poquello
            poquello 14 September 2021 01: 40
            +1
            Quote: Intruder
            firstly Taiwanese, secondly, something tryndit
            Racial !? or technically ??? laughing

            ett from the fullness of the glass, that is, from the angle of view, the Taiwanese are of course experienced warriors)
      2. Intruder
        Intruder 13 September 2021 23: 22
        -1
        Another ode to AI?
        Subtle techno-hype !? Business is ... wink
      3. alch3mist
        alch3mist 14 September 2021 17: 25
        0
        Taiwanese entrepreneur, 20 years behind

        Probably just watched the 20-year-old film "Body Swap" with drone killers.
    3. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 16: 59
      -2
      "beat off bread" from the killers
      But blackhat (s) will have a new specialization: a killer-operator of kamikaze drones is required! yes
  2. Fedor Sokolov
    Fedor Sokolov 13 September 2021 16: 13
    +5
    Kai-fu Lee well, and a surname, drug addicts will appreciate.
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 23: 20
      -1
      Kai-fu Lee well, and a surname, drug addicts will appreciate.
      The same as among the Slavs: Mudko or Zadov !? Directly for rainbow connoisseurs !!! drinks
  3. Trapp1st
    Trapp1st 13 September 2021 16: 13
    +11
    that the main problem associated with the use of unmanned systems in the military sphere is their inconsistency with the moral principles on which mankind has based all its activities for millennia.
    What principles, what morality)? The car is unlikely to cut off their heads for fun or nail children to trees, and so on that a person does quite calmly for himself. And here not long ago people in slippers threw out the most modern army from their country.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 16: 22
      -1
      Quote: Trapp1st
      And here not long ago people in slippers threw out the most modern army from their country.

      Legends and myths from the guardians and sect of witnesses to the decline of America. You are already tired of the worse bitter radish. Stop cluttering up the resource with your virtual overrides.
      1. Trapp1st
        Trapp1st 13 September 2021 16: 24
        +3
        Legends and myths from the guardians and the sect of witnesses of almighty America. You are already tired of the worse bitter radish. Do not litter the resource with your virtual overrides.
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 16: 57
          -1
          And Cho was not immediately recorded in Bandera? This is the standard set for your guards. State Department agent, liberal, Bandera.
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 13 September 2021 17: 02
            +2
            And Cho was not immediately recorded in Bandera?
            As I understand it, write it down and attribute it to your part ...
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 17: 08
              -3
              I am just stating facts. You yourself painted yourself in the colors that you painted.
              1. Trapp1st
                Trapp1st 13 September 2021 17: 10
                +3
                You yourself painted yourself in the colors that you painted.
                Masterpiece, I approve!
              2. hrych
                hrych 13 September 2021 17: 23
                +2
                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                You painted yourself in the colors that you painted

                Can't look into tomorrow?

                Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                Legends and myths from the guardians and sect of witnesses of the decline of America

                Here is your colleague from the greatness sect of America
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 18: 19
                  -3
                  Quote: hrych
                  Can't look into tomorrow?

                  Can. And Klitschko is a masterpiece.
                  Quote: hrych
                  Here is your colleague from the greatness sect of America

                  When Bandera's people write this about Donbass, it is fascism, when patriots write the same thing about Afghans fleeing from cruel fanatics, this is obviously different.
                  1. hrych
                    hrych 13 September 2021 18: 37
                    +5
                    And who is to blame for the fact that the Americans did it in Afghanistan? The suffering of people in Donbass, solely thanks to the Americans, who staged the Maidan. And also the Biden family wanted to get to the Donetsk oil shale. Therefore, whether Crimea, Donbass, Syria, Venezuela, Bolivia, or Afghan is an American disgrace and failure. These are America's shattered plans and dreams. And the arguments in favor of roll-ups, against those praying in the United States, like you, and even criticism towards your idol, do not accept that you choke on radish wassat
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 18: 45
                      -3
                      Quote: hrych
                      Therefore, that Crimea, Donbass, Syria, Venezuela, Bolivia, Afghan is an American disgrace and failure.

                      And how do you justify this? What is your evidence? Even if in some places things are not going the way the United States would like, it is somehow silly to write it down as a failure. If only because no one sees any catastrophe. Well, except for the sect of witnesses to the death of America tomorrow for dinner.
                      Quote: hrych
                      And the arguments in favor of roll-ups, against those praying in the United States, like you, that even criticism towards your idol is unacceptable, that you choke on radish

                      That is, you do not read what I write at all. It's clear. The guards, as always, demonstrate simply amazing stupidity. Well, I leave you alone with her, you are well together, I will not interfere.
                      1. hrych
                        hrych 13 September 2021 18: 51
                        +3
                        There is no need for justification, unless for the enchanted wassat Okay, in a nutshell. Although Nuland ran around with opium pies, Crimea and Donbass were gone. Maduro survived and the junta collapsed in Bolivia. In Syria, Obama's squadron has retired. Well, Afghan, finished the illusion, isn't it yours.
        2. Sergey M. Karasev
          Sergey M. Karasev 13 September 2021 17: 00
          +1

          IS-80_RVGK2 (Makar)
          Today, 16: 22
          NEW

          +1
          Quote: Trapp1st
          And here not long ago people in slippers threw out the most modern army from their country.

          Legends and myths from the guardians and sect of witnesses to the decline of America. You are already tired of the worse bitter radish. Stop cluttering up the resource with your virtual overrides.


          Trapp1st (Trapp1st)
          Today, 16: 24
          NEW

          +2
          Legends and myths from the guardians and the sect of witnesses of almighty America. You are already tired of the worse bitter radish. Do not litter the resource with your virtual overrides.

          Are you there, copying each other's essays? laughing
      2. lucul
        lucul 13 September 2021 16: 25
        -1
        Legends and myths from the guardians and sect of witnesses to the decline of America. You are already tired of the worse bitter radish

        What ? Are you cracking up? )))
        The first official defeat of the loan interest - did not take root in Afghanistan))))
        1. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 16: 59
          -2
          Quote: lucul
          What ? Are you cracking up? )))

          Human stupidity has always infuriated me. Even mine. Although, for obvious reasons, I am much more loyal to her.
          1. Trapp1st
            Trapp1st 13 September 2021 17: 03
            -2
            Human stupidity has always infuriated me. Even mine.
            This explains why you are mad.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 17: 09
              -2
              Undoubtedly. It is difficult to be smart among the beautiful.
              1. Trapp1st
                Trapp1st 13 September 2021 17: 11
                -1
                It is difficult to be smart among the beautiful.
                It's hard to be stupid and scary)
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 17: 41
                  -3
                  I sympathize with your grief. smile
          2. lucul
            lucul 13 September 2021 17: 07
            -2
            Human stupidity has always infuriated me. Even mine. Although, for obvious reasons, I am much more loyal to her.

            But I am calm, on the contrary, dozens of options slip through my mind at once, what this could cause.
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    2. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 10
      +1
      The car is unlikely to cut off their heads for fun or nail children to trees, etc.
      Have you forgotten about: the marauder of the occupied territory, the armed robbery of the peacekeeper, wear and tear !? To a heap, failure to comply with an order, general physical fatigue of personnel / limitation of activities in poor environmental conditions (humidity / temperature / difficult terrain), the need for food and medical assistance, psychosis, etc.
  4. lucul
    lucul 13 September 2021 16: 18
    -2
    now we are all watching the third revolution in the world of weapons - the emergence and implementation of artificial intelligence in the military sphere.

    To begin with, you need to at least create it, and then implement it)))
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 September 2021 16: 32
      +4
      You imagine AI as a certain epic sage, or a scientist, or a certain cabinet that blinks with lights and knows everything in the world. laughing
      In fact, AI is .. a "nimble cheeky teenager" with about zero erudition. He knows how to do one thing. But stubbornly, autonomously, with imagination, completely fearless and with great speed.
      And such computer-chips "teenage hooligans" have already been created.
      Only for now are they afraid to place them in military equipment.
      1. lucul
        lucul 13 September 2021 16: 41
        0
        In fact, AI is .. a "nimble cheeky teenager" with about zero erudition. He knows how to do one thing. But stubbornly, autonomously, with imagination, completely fearless and with great speed.
        And such computer-chips "teenage hooligans" have already been created.
        Only for now are they afraid to place them in military equipment.

        So can do "one thing" and any children's toy on an electric power supply. But that doesn't mean she's an AI.
        You read about the definition of intelligence first. And then they wishful thinking for the sake of marketing sales.
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 September 2021 16: 52
          -1
          "children's toy on electric power supply" ///
          ---
          No one controls these children's toys in their work on assignment. Even those who created them will not know what tactics the toy will choose to achieve its ultimate goal.
          1. lucul
            lucul 13 September 2021 17: 04
            -2
            No one controls these children's toys in their work on assignment. Even those who created them will not know what tactics the toy will choose to achieve its ultimate goal.

            Any of this children's toy has a framework (horizon of action), rigidly determined by its creator, beyond which it will not be able to go.
            But AI will be able to go beyond these limits - in fact, this is the main difference between AI and a child's toy.
            1. voyaka uh
              voyaka uh 13 September 2021 17: 17
              -2
              All living beings have a framework (horizon of action). Including people.
              We also have a creator - evolution.
              In this we are no different from machines.
              1. lucul
                lucul 13 September 2021 18: 42
                +1
                All living beings have a framework (horizon of action). Including people.
                We also have a creator - evolution.

                You did not understand the essence - if, say, the designer specifically limited the practical ceiling from 10 m to 000 m (frame) to the drone, then it will not rise above 5 m, that is, it will not go beyond the algorithm.
                The real AI will easily come out.
          2. poquello
            poquello 13 September 2021 18: 14
            -1
            Quote: voyaka uh
            "children's toy on electric power supply" ///
            ---
            No one controls these children's toys in their work on assignment. Even those who created them will not know what tactics the toy will choose to achieve its ultimate goal.

            nothing new "smeared, washed off, repeated, smeared, washed off, repeated"
        2. Nafanya from the sofa
          Nafanya from the sofa 13 September 2021 17: 16
          -1
          In fact, AI is .. "nimble cheeky teenager" with about zero erudition.

          So this is AI from our Israeli colleagues. Probably they also started having problems with human intelligence.
          1. voyaka uh
            voyaka uh 13 September 2021 17: 38
            0
            good
            Naturally so. laughing
            AI from Russia will be some kind of electronic
            Tolstoyevsky (Tolstoy-Dostoevsky) with a broad soul, spiritual quest and torment and love for nature ...
            1. Nafanya from the sofa
              Nafanya from the sofa 13 September 2021 17: 46
              -1
              In fact, AI is .. "nimble cheeky teenager" with about zero erudition.

              But he will have everything "longer and thicker", well, as usual ... repeat
      2. Bow
        Bow 14 September 2021 10: 08
        +2
        Humanitarians are merciless.
        AI, it turns out, is not a system of algorithms / methods, but a kind of physical chip)))
        I will tell you one little secret: the program is purple, it is launched on a computer blinking with lights, or on something more brutal. The main thing is that the iron pulls
    2. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 19
      +2

      To begin with, you need to at least create it, and then implement it.

      Wave and nonlinear algorithms, heat maps and optical signatures with distribution, these are in the simplest and "dumb" engines of game mechanics, although if for a good budget, add peripheral computing on neuromorphing with hardware support (now there is a boom in implementation, the automakers of the "first rank", as the simplest example) plus training on the training grounds with a human team to collect data sets, then the person will not become the most successful "player" in this military matter ... wink
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 13 September 2021 19: 52
        0
        Do you work with datasets through Pandas?
        Sincerely
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 13 September 2021 20: 01
          -3
          via Pandas

          ONLY, for numerical analysis! And so, I use a lot of other libraries from the world of Open Source (a), sometimes terribly clumsy, but working with Linux-based systems I have to be perverted anyway, to my great regret I don't have enough saliva to spit, "erotic" life with WinIntel (oh) did not work after 2009, at 14 I got hooked on OS X, mainly when working with media content and graphics !!!
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 05
            0
            And I use Freebsd, Ubuntu and CentOS for servers
            Sincerely
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 13 September 2021 20: 09
              -2
              Freebsd, Ubuntu and CentOS
              I have, only canonical preferences, in these "erotic" views on the Axis, now: Debian / Ubuntu, with a whole library of scripts and different configs, for servers and desktop / working laptop ..
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 12
                +1
                And servers with what, if not a secret? Mine, who went to bed, were from 1skaya. Win 2019 Server with SQL Server on each.
                Sincerely
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 14 September 2021 11: 26
                  -1
                  one - with CADs, although now it is a banal graphical station, on NV Quadro;
                  the second is SFTP / FTPS;
                  the third - everything "pulls", in the home workshop;
                  and two, for the farm .., and there are different calculations "on demand", they are rotated on GPUs .. repeat , from the era of coin fever 17-18. still got it, did not sell it, so they are on the "personal balance"!
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 14 September 2021 11: 49
                    +1
                    And I refuse ftp servers everywhere in favor of distributed file systems. And from the farms, you can make good systems for calculating art installations in finite elements ... I understand that Belisarius decided to abandon the 100mm and 30mm twin in favor of 57mm. It is the BMP with such a weapon that are participating in the West 2021 exercises.
                    Sincerely
      2. Bow
        Bow 14 September 2021 10: 26
        -1
        In this opus, have you used all the words that you thought were clever from those you read recently, or did something still not fit?))))
        How to solve the problem? We must add calculations to it! What could be easier))))))
        1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
          Boris ⁣ Shaver 14 September 2021 10: 41
          0
          Quote: Bow
          In this opus, have you used all the words that you thought were clever from those you read recently, or did something still not fit?))))

          Scroll down - there he remembered a few more words so that no one had any doubts, so to speak. Even the good old ubunta was used - the unchanging word-password of the mother's hackers))))))))))))))
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 14 September 2021 18: 59
            +1

            Excuse me, could you comment on this "funny picture"?
            Sincerely
            1. Boris ⁣ Shaver
              Boris ⁣ Shaver 15 September 2021 10: 45
              +1
              Quote: nobody75
              Could you comment on this "funny picture"?

              And I would like to comment on this picture, as well as the dialogue that preceded it, with an anecdote about a student, fleas and a ticket about a dog))
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 15 September 2021 10: 47
                -1
                I look forward to presenting the facts of your autobiography ...
                Sincerely
  5. Russ
    Russ 13 September 2021 16: 18
    +3
    Terminator in action ... yes
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 21
      -1
      Something like this:
  6. prior
    prior 13 September 2021 16: 19
    0
    AI is of course interesting.
    But another thing is also interesting, in front of a real threat of the destruction of millions of people, even a super-duper armed America retreated before North Korea.
    Unacceptable damage ....!
    I am not calling not to develop weapons, but I think that even artificial intelligence will retreat in the face of unacceptable damage.
    Glory to the Strategic Missile Forces.
    And AI can also come in handy, drive the natives ...
  7. Keyser soze
    Keyser soze 13 September 2021 16: 20
    +2
    The prospect of introducing machines that lack circumspection and at the same time have the ability to take human lives is morally disgusting.


    These "talking heads" from various useless organizations are simply touching. Each car that goes to the enemy, instead of a soldier, is the height of humanity and shows the high morality of a nation that takes care of its children. War is such a thing that there are enough deaths anyway, and if the machine saves at least one soldier or kills one enemy, then the effort deserves it.
    1. IS-80_RVGK2
      IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 17: 06
      0
      The main thing here is that you do not turn out to be this very enemy. And you know, under capitalism it is very simple.
      1. Keyser soze
        Keyser soze 13 September 2021 17: 19
        +2
        But do you know under capitalism ...


        How? Are you good at capitalism?
        Capitalism was in your country for the last time in 1917, in its specificity at that time. And now you have a neo-feudal version of capitalism, in which "capitalism" is just that, for a catchphrase, and which was invented and adjusted by former communists and KGBists, so again into the wrong gate. First rebuild this capitalism, then argue what is easy in it and what is difficult. laughing
        1. nobody75
          nobody75 13 September 2021 18: 25
          0
          Now you have a neo-feudal version of capitalism

          Yes, in Russia and feudalism was not. Klyuchevsky also noted that the princely dignity was transmitted exclusively in the family of Rurik. It was not a title.
          Sincerely
          1. alch3mist
            alch3mist 14 September 2021 17: 08
            -1
            Yes, in Russia and feudalism was not. Klyuchevsky also noted that the princely dignity was transmitted exclusively in the family of Rurik. It was not a title.

            No need to drive. In Russia there was a title of prince, which was roughly equivalent to the Western title of "duke". And the members of the royal family were "grand dukes".
            Gagarins, Dolgorukovs, Golitsyns, Dashkovs, Volkonskys, Rurikovichs, Gediminovichs, Tatar, Georgian, and others, and so on - hundreds.

            Is Russophobic arrogance bursting again?
            1. nobody75
              nobody75 14 September 2021 17: 53
              +1
              No need to drive.

              We open Klyuchevsky volumes V - VI
              Those whom you have listed are the so-called "service princes". You still write Valtsman and Zelensky as princes! Delight the Darkest ...
              Sincerely
            2. poquello
              poquello 14 September 2021 18: 00
              0
              Quote: alch3mist
              Yes, in Russia and feudalism was not. Klyuchevsky also noted that the princely dignity was transmitted exclusively in the family of Rurik. It was not a title.

              No need to drive. In Russia there was a title of prince, which was roughly equivalent to the Western title of "duke". And the members of the royal family were "grand dukes".
              Gagarins, Dolgorukovs, Golitsyns, Dashkovs, Volkonskys, Rurikovichs, Gediminovichs, Tatar, Georgian, and others, and so on - hundreds.

              and from what year then? in Russia and serfdom was not until they took over from Europe
        2. poquello
          poquello 13 September 2021 18: 26
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Are you good at capitalism?

          itit,)))))))))))))))))))))))))) Do you understand what else is written in the manual?
        3. IS-80_RVGK2
          IS-80_RVGK2 13 September 2021 18: 29
          0
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          Capitalism was in your country for the last time in 1917, in its specificity at that time. And now you have a neo-feudal version of capitalism, in which "capitalism" is just that, for a catchphrase, and which was invented and adjusted by former communists and KGBists, so again into the wrong gate.

          Do you have many such experts on Russia in Bulgaria? If yes, then poor Bulgaria. And now it is clear why you refused to become a gas distribution hub and cut money like the Germans by kindly giving it to your best friends the Turks. Apparently these same experts are in charge of your economy. laughing
          Quote: Keyser Soze
          First rebuild this capitalism, then argue what is easy in it and what is difficult.

          Well, where do we wild uncouth Asians to the European superpower Bulgaria. We will, of course, try to keep the economy up to your level. But it won't be easy. Bulgaria for us, I will say so, is an almost unattainable ideal.
          1. Keyser soze
            Keyser soze 14 September 2021 10: 21
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            now it is clear why you refused to become a gas distribution hub and cut money like the Germans by kindly giving it to your best friends the Turks.


            My dear, well, please, stick to the facts - the Balkan stream is working to its fullest, the loot - we'll cut it off, our gas pipeline, not Gazprom's. We are expanding gas storage facilities and let Azerbaijani gas through it. Soon we will let loose and liquefied from Alexandroupolis. All in chocolate.
            And the South Stream did not work, because the notorious 3rd EU directive. Gazprom did not agree to give the ownership of the pipe to us and did not fuse. The EU is more important to us than Gazprom, after all. But we went to meet Gazprom and rebuilt it ourselves, and now gas is flowing again, but by a different route. You will now have to solve this dilemma on Nord Stream 2. Let's see Gazprom how to manage it.

            We will, of course, try to keep the economy up to your level.


            Yes, try. At least to the level of all the Balkans. For the first half of the year, the Greeks grew by 16,2% of GDP, we have 9,9%, the Serbs also have about 8-9%. The economy has bypassed the pre-pandemic stance, despite the fact that tourism is what we have, that the Greeks have died because of restrictions.
            1. IS-80_RVGK2
              IS-80_RVGK2 14 September 2021 12: 34
              +1
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              For the first half of the year, the Greeks grew by 16,2% of GDP, we have 9,9%, the Serbs also have about 8-9%.

              Let's see what happens in a year. And then we have the same thing. We turned off part of the capacities, turned on part of the capacities. Crazy growth. But in fact, just recovery after a short fall.
              Quote: Keyser Soze
              Yes, try. At least to the level of all the Balkans.

              Why at least? The Balkans are now a driver of economic growth. Biden is shocked. Already changing plans to contain and counter China, to the same but only in relation to the Balkans. Otherwise, soon Khan America. The Bulgarian tugrik will replace the dollar.
              1. Keyser soze
                Keyser soze 14 September 2021 13: 05
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                The Bulgarian tugrik will replace the dollar.


                Hahahaah, even I felt funny ... laughing
                Laugh enough - the rate of our tugrik to the euro is 1,95 leva per euro. One tugrik costs 44 rubles.
                Second, our tugrik / euro exchange rate changed for the last time in ..... 1998. Have another laugh.
                Thirdly, we have about 2% in excess of loans for housing. If we accept the euro, it will fall to 0,5-1%.

                Are you still funny? bully
                1. IS-80_RVGK2
                  IS-80_RVGK2 14 September 2021 13: 18
                  +1
                  Quote: Keyser Soze
                  Are you still funny?

                  And funny and sad. This whole story of yours about the mighty Bulgarian economy painfully reminds me of the stories of Russian bourgeois patriots. And so, yes, I believe you that Bulgaria is an earthly paradise. The truth is that people in this paradise do not really linger. But these are trifles of course.
                  1. Keyser soze
                    Keyser soze 14 September 2021 13: 35
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                    so, yes, I believe that Bulgaria is an earthly paradise.


                    As nature, then yes, it is an earthly paradise. As a politician, we also have former communists and KGB agents stole everything and, of course, broke everything. Corruption problems. But we are changing governments and sooner or later we will put the former in jail. We have no kings, thank God.

                    The truth is that people in this paradise do not really linger.


                    People are coming back little by little. Good specialists work everywhere for good money. So we attract Russian settlers too. Etih, highly educated. They like the climate and tranquility here, and they like the EU. Half a million have property with us and 50 thousand and citizenship. Their children attend our schools and will already be Bulgarians.
                    1. IS-80_RVGK2
                      IS-80_RVGK2 14 September 2021 14: 38
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                      Quote: Keyser Soze
                      People are coming back little by little.

                      Somehow, according to statistics, it is not noticeable.
                      Quote: Keyser Soze
                      We have no kings, thank God.

                      Well, they don’t live with you. For some reason, the European bureaucracy does not want to live in the Bulgarian paradise.
                      1. Keyser soze
                        Keyser soze 14 September 2021 15: 00
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                        Well, they don’t live with you.


                        But yours are at home. laughing
                        Already a whole cooperative was created to manage the largest power in the world. laughing
                        Eti will definitely extend your middle class from 17 rubles (as the chief of the cooperative said) to the level of Bulgaria. laughing

                        Sorry for the banter, but you deserve it. From the belfry of a foreigner, you were once an Empire. Then they became the Soviet Empire. Both were great. Now your status as a cooperative property, with a non-tsar at the head and half a million Roszhandarmeria, guarded from your own people, causes pity for people and laughter when trying to have cardboard greatness.
                  2. poquello
                    poquello 14 September 2021 18: 09
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                    Quote: IS-80_RVGK2
                    And funny and sad. This whole story of yours about the mighty Bulgarian economy painfully reminds me of the stories of Russian bourgeois patriots.

                    there are also great dill and great Balts, everything is covered in chocolate and move the world economy
  8. nobody75
    nobody75 13 September 2021 16: 22
    +1
    The main problem of using artificial intelligence in combat systems is the lack of a mathematical apparatus that summarizes various approaches and algorithms.
    Sincerely
    1. voyaka uh
      voyaka uh 13 September 2021 17: 45
      -3
      Never run past a hive with bees?
      Bees have no central brains, no algorithms, and no generalizing mathematical apparatus.
      But they attack together and sting can hurt to death.

      So is a swarm of drones. Network communication (neighbor with neighbors), simple collision control, distribution of targets between neighbors.
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 13 September 2021 18: 18
        +1
        Bees have no central brain

        Have you ever seen a bee dance? In its dance, each bee gives its neighbors coordinates according to the position of the sun ... Try to program this ...
        Sincerely
        1. voyaka uh
          voyaka uh 13 September 2021 21: 19
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          It is programmed with brilliance and ease.
          Drones in flight freely exchange such information.
          Look for interest in the actions of the drone swarm in the attack. Someone posted the video above.

          Drones, even if they are launched in hundreds of dense flocks, will not collide at night and will be able to attack in an orderly manner.
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 13 September 2021 21: 44
            +1
            Throw off the link to the code?
            Sincerely
  9. Sands Careers General
    Sands Careers General 13 September 2021 16: 27
    +2
    And then after the third revolution, the introduction of AI into the military sphere, there will immediately be Skynet and the enslavement of mankind by terminators)))
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 17: 26
      -1
      Skynet and the enslavement of mankind by the terminators will immediately be)))
      More precisely, enslavement, backward "banana petrol-gas dispensers" who cannot / do not want, or are unable to realize the importance of this offensive of a new level of development in military science, plus the general globalization of production with direct control, from large and developed partners in the field development of "small-town" key technologies and the general level of technical development in different "Palestinians" on the ball!
      1. nobody75
        nobody75 13 September 2021 18: 20
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        Greetings! In Russia, "Skynet" already exists, but with AI and computer vision - the trouble !!!
        Sincerely
        1. Intruder
          Intruder 13 September 2021 18: 26
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          In Russia, "Skynet" already exists, but with AI and computer vision - the trouble !!!
          Sincerely
          What has already been introduced, right after the test DNS blocking !? wink
          And with AI and technical vision, what !? Taiwanese chip makers refuse to work for Baikal Electronics and MCST ??? laughing
          Calibers with Zircons, they lack even one aircraft carrier, which is still rather dead than combat-ready ... am
          1. nobody75
            nobody75 13 September 2021 19: 48
            +1
            What has already been introduced, right after the test DNS blocking !?
            Don't remind! I had a microt and two servers. The phone was cut off because of four eights. And on servers, 1c exchanges with branches ... I'm not only rummaging about system software in C ++ and python ...
            Sincerely
            1. Intruder
              Intruder 13 September 2021 19: 55
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              I had a microt and two servers.
              My condolences, bro ... Administering in Russia now is probably as dangerous and nervous as being rude to a stranger near a saloon, in the days of the Wild West in Texas, or California !? belay
              I'm not only rummaging through system software in C ++ and python ...
              Python, hmm ... my one of my favorite languages ​​of the second order, and the first is: C and ASM, with Pascal! There were times, with these three, in their tempestuous youth and youth, when monitors were CRT, with black and white gradients, MS / TR-DOS and early FreeBSD, with different commercial Nix (s)!
              1. nobody75
                nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 00
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                TP6 or TP7? I switched from them to Delphi - I even got a certificate from Embarcadero ... And what about Masm or Tasm? When I taught architecture to students, I forced COM to write in Debug ... There was a time ...
                Sincerely
                1. Intruder
                  Intruder 13 September 2021 20: 06
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                  And asmu Masm or Tasm?
                  NASM and GAS!
                  TP6 or TP7
                  Is it about the DOS version?
                  1. nobody75
                    nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 07
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                    Is it about the DOS version?

                    Yes Turbo Pascal
                    Sincerely
                    1. Intruder
                      Intruder 13 September 2021 20: 14
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                      Yes Turbo Pascal
                      Eh, young and green laughing , why so distort the great and mighty Pascal, I still remember him, from the version: Free Pascal 1996, and I started to use it tightly, from version 2.2, in 2007!
                      1. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 17
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                        Turbo Pascal was before him! And Free Pascal is still alive and has cross-platform compilation. But it is much inferior to Delphi - there are no generics, vcl, firemonkey and normal interfaces to the database
                        Sincerely
                      2. Intruder
                        Intruder 13 September 2021 20: 21
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                        Turbo Pascal used to be
                        That's right, then since version 4.0 (it was long ago in 1987-88), this was when the compilation was carried out in an EXE file, and not in COM, as before ... a lot of interesting things could be shoved and given to a neighbor in the "ward" ( multi-apartment Khrushchev fellow ), and there he could have caught a lot of an amazing and outrageous, and now this is already an article of the Criminal Code in most countries pulls ... unfortunately !!! wink
                      3. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 27
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                        COM could also be compiled, but in Borland C ++ using the tiny memory model. then all pointers were near within a 64K segment. In Pascal, in my opinion, such a number was not rolled out because of the runtime of the library, which was linked by default ...
                        Sincerely
                      4. Intruder
                        Intruder 13 September 2021 22: 10
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                        In Pascal, in my opinion, such a number was not rolled out because of the runtime of the library
                        Ilya, chop the chip ... correctly noticed about the pointers!
                        in my opinion, such a number did not run
                        Well, there, a lot of all sorts of gloomy things could be "snagged" if you had free time and brains, but you got used to your hands to the keyboard, although it was not my approach in the past that was in Pascal, I worked more at a low level then, "without interruption from production "so to speak ... I had a lot of free time in the evenings at work, I was often delayed (the first wife did not like this, however lol ) and cars with different things there, there were a lot of different ones with different Osi ..., though not here and not in the public to talk about it, otherwise anything can happen and always is - ears and eyes at the "supervision" !?
                        Respectfully yours! bully
                      5. nobody75
                        nobody75 13 September 2021 22: 53
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                        By the way, I noticed a Delphi-based software in the Nizhny Novgorod "Burivevestnik", which counts the gun barrel as finite elements. And there is nothing surprising in this, since BCB is friends with matlab!
                        Sincerely
                      6. Intruder
                        Intruder 13 September 2021 23: 09
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                        since BCB is friends with matlab
                        Well, MatLab has many interesting features, for example, I have one commercial library, for calculating the mechanics of different drives and many of my own, there are "things" already accumulated, by the way, in Boston Dynamics, they consider the support and power nodes of anthropomorphic systems immediately on vectors movement and on different axes !?
                      7. nobody75
                        nobody75 14 September 2021 07: 50
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                        And so it is necessary to consider that it was possible to go to different coordinate systems by transformations in one matrix!
                        Sincerely
  10. nobody75
    nobody75 13 September 2021 20: 02
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    when monitors were CRT, with black and white gradients

    HercMono? so he called him names in bgi ...
    Sincerely
  • DrRey
    DrRey 13 September 2021 16: 55
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    Let's say a situation - the army was replaced by drones and as a result of hostilities they ended. So, what is next? And then again the soldier on the front line in the trenches. And if there are no trained soldiers, this country will quickly disappear.
    1. t-12
      t-12 13 September 2021 17: 13
      +7
      So, what is next?

      The same as after the "completion" of living soldiers: negotiations for peace or surrender (depending on the state of affairs of the enemy).

      Moreover, a living soldier needs to be raised for 20 years, and a robot can be made in a week literally in a garage (if you have components: material for the body, power plant, electromagnetic drives, microcircuits and any electronic loose). So the robots will "run out" slower than the soldiers.
    2. donavi49
      donavi49 13 September 2021 20: 13
      +1
      Let's say a situation - the army was replaced by drones and as a result of hostilities they ended


      So this is not something in a vacuum. Likewise, all sorts of countries with a stretch to be considered people in the 18-19 century thought. Their ships, muskets / rifles and machine guns will run out and then we will show them to London and chase.

      AI is not only about combat vehicles, but also about manufacturing. Therefore, the increase in their output = only available energy and resources, and the resources can be taken away from those who cannot yet become robots in large quantities or beyond exhibitions and presentations.

      Again, the death of 100 drones is just a loss of resources and money. The death of 000 soldiers is already a huge blow to the entire army and its morale, seething in society, and even surrender. And the owner of mega-factories, automated production will make up for the losses with the same or even better machines. Whereas the traditional army, with heavy casualties, is always faced with training / recruiting opportunities.
  • Mavrikiy
    Mavrikiy 13 September 2021 17: 00
    +1
    Such a machine will ignore surrender, in fact it is an instrument of murder, and this cannot but frighten us.
    belay Rave. For hundreds of years, the Inquisition burned repentant sinners at the stake, without any remorse. This did not frighten the businessman, oh yes, this is different. fool
  • opuonmed
    opuonmed 13 September 2021 18: 19
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    and drown out the signals? radioelectronic fighting there? Ipusls vasyakie) who burn the electronic devices if there is no protection, nope? and it is interesting, but until the ii is protected from this, then there is nothing that will not have a current, you can destroy countries where this protection is not available) although if you release 1 drones and hit all targets from 1 gift), de-energize destroy blind hearing, you can cut it, but there are risks as they said the unknown randomness)
    1. Intruder
      Intruder 13 September 2021 18: 32
      +1
      and drown out the signals? radioelectronic fighting there?
      It's easier to cut off your hands and damage the eyes of the UAV operators than to burn electronics and conduct "skillful" electronic warfare, in different areas, plus and cheaper .., as the comment above, about the great and successful Inquisition! recourse
    2. nobody75
      nobody75 13 September 2021 19: 49
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      Ipusls vasyakie) who burn the electronic devices if there is no protection, nope?

      Have you heard about the Faraday theorem?
      Sincerely
  • Sergei Khukharev
    Sergei Khukharev 13 September 2021 22: 15
    -1
    Not necessarily AI war machines will destroy everyone in a row; if this were so, then it is no longer intelligence. The main thing is not to forget that behind the combat robots with AI there is always a person and he bears full responsibility for the actions of the robots. New criminals against humanity will not be able to hide behind the robots; they will have to be personally responsible for the crimes. Perhaps they will die at the hands of a vaunted AI.
  • Alex Justice
    Alex Justice 14 September 2021 19: 19
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    War of the future: kids are gunners at computers, soldiers raise their hands and surrender to drones.