The conditions for signing an agreement on the deployment of the MTO point of the Russian Navy in Port Sudan have become known

Sudan wanted to amend the agreement on the construction of a naval base of the Russian Navy in Port Sudan in the Red Sea. The changes will affect several points of the agreement.

As the RIA News With reference to a source in the military department, the Sudanese authorities intend to receive economic assistance from Russia, while the agreement on the lease of the territory for the Russian logistics center is being signed for a period of five years with the possibility of extension for another 25 years. According to the source, Moscow has not yet given a response to Khartoum's proposal.

The fact that the new authorities in Sudan intend to amend the agreement became known in early June this year. It was almost about the refusal to represent the territory. As the then Chief of Staff of the Sudanese Armed Forces, Muhammad Usman al-Hussein, said, the agreement with Moscow was signed by the former government of the Sudan, and the current one intends to revise it.

In April of this year, Khartoum began to "wag", and American officials became frequent visitors to Sudan, who had previously declared the country a haven for terrorists. But as soon as it became known that Russia could get a base in the Red Sea, Washington immediately removed all restrictions from Sudan and offered financial assistance.

According to experts, Khartoum is trying to knock out the highest possible price from Moscow, while keeping Washington in mind. Whether Russia will agree to such conditions, time will tell, but the point in the Red Sea to our the fleet would not hurt.

Comments

[Roma 1977]

The base in Sudan should be set up only after it has been subjected to humanitarian American bombing. And not for five years, but for a hundred. And not in exchange for economic aid, but in exchange for corporatisation of Sudanese assets in favor of Russian investors. Enough on the rake already.

[DymOk_v_dYmke]

Quote: Roma-1977

And not in exchange for economic aid, but in exchange for corporatisation of Sudanese assets in favor of Russian investors. Enough on the rake already.

That's for sure, enough to walk on a rake.
The tails of "Russian investors" under the striped boot.
Assets in exchange are good, but only for the state.
Actually, the territory and infrastructure of the MTO base is such an asset.

[Roma 1977]

Naturally. I meant serious state corporations, not majors with a London residence permit.

[faiver]

I meant serious state corporations, not majors with a London residence permit.

- no matter how they turn out to be the same faces

[Revival]

What condition do you have, to put it mildly, difficult

[for]

serious state corporations, not majors with a London residence permit.

And there is no difference in them. And the majors are just in Moscow that they shouldn't do business with the moral and financial support of the state.

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Roma-1977

Naturally. I meant serious state corporations, not majors with a London residence permit.

Well, the management of state companies does not differ at all in asceticism and modesty.
Yakunin became famous for his fur storages, now he lives in Germany, Chemezov has an apartment of several floors on Red Square, Kostin is famous for Askerzada, with Baragozin and Sechin, everything is clear, etc., etc.

[Azis]

Geological exploration => "find" oil / gas => American "humanitarian aid" => our base?

[knn54]

-the agreement on the lease of the territory for the Russian point of material and technical maintenance is signed for a period of five years with the possibility of extension for another 25 years.
FROM WHAT moment If from the beginning of construction, the absurdity is complete.
If the agreement is not renewed, then Sudan and its patrons will receive a READY structure, also with a "surcharge!"
KIDALOVO is visible with the naked eye.
ONLY 99 years like the Yankes & Co.
And stop forgiving debts to just anyone. The CMEA "companions" received (it is not clear for what) EVERYTHING they COUNTED. And they did not write off a penny to a real ally, Cuba.
By the way, the Yankees never left Guantanamo, although the lease term (99 years) expired long ago, while Cuba did not take the Yankees payment for the rent.

[Sasha from Uralmash]

Exactly! With the base in Libau, that's exactly what happened! They built for themselves, but the enemies used @

[Sasha from Uralmash]

If you cannot buy a principality, you have to buy a princeling! He will do everything himself!

[lucul]

Time will tell whether Russia will agree to such conditions, but a point in the Red Sea would not hurt our fleet.

And in Egypt, nothing? )))
There is also the Red Sea)))

[Doccor18]

Quote: lucul

And in Egypt, nothing? )))
There is also the Red Sea)))

Yeah, Hurghada or Safaga quite suit sailors

[Flooding]

Quote: Doccor18

Hurghada or Safaga will suit sailors

as a resort?

[Doccor18]

And the resort too.

[Flooding]

Hurghada is a resort
the whole port - a couple of marinas and pleasure boats

[Doccor18]

There are almost 30 km. convenient coast, and you can find a place for a 300-meter pier, if you wish ...

[maiman61]

Why don't we have parasites on our necks ?!

[Doccor18]

Sudanese authorities intend to receive economic assistance from Russia

Just...

the agreement on the lease of the territory for the Russian point of material and technical support is signed for a period of five years

Just...

[Revival]

So that just when everyone invests, builds, and then does not renew

[Doccor18]

Yes, this is more like a veiled refusal. Politess ...

[t-12]

What's the point? What kind of ships will be supplied / serviced by this MTO point?

Well, Syria is only 1000 miles away, three days of economic progress.

[Roma 1977]

It would be nice to serve something small there, but which, in the event of a naughty man, could set fire to a dozen oil tankers at the entrance and exit of the Suez Canal. A sort of icy fingers squeezing the eggs of the world economy.

[t-12]

Well, they set a dozen tankers on fire. What's next?

[Roma 1977]

Further, the global energy shortage, the stock market crash, BLM street clashes with gay pride parades and Yellow Vests for the right to free meals. I am not saying that tankers should be burned. We need a demonstration of the very possibility of such a situation as a lever of influence on the fragile psyche of partners.

[t-12]

I'm not talking about vests or gay pride parades. I'm talking about what will be the response of the partners.

[Roma 1977]

This is not about retaliation. Russia is the defending side. But this does not mean that the defender should sit and wait for the attack. On the contrary, it is necessary to demonstrate the presence of political will (and the actual ability) to inflict unacceptable damage to the enemy in the event that he starts an open conflict.

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: t-12

I'm not talking about vests or gay pride parades. I'm talking about what will be the response of the partners.

Are they capable of responding? Something less and less to believe in it ... Well done among the sheep, and against the young man - the sheep itself! A fitting proverb ... for striped ears.

[Spring fluff]

Hasham 8 February 2018

[Sling cutter]

Quote: Roma-1977

It would be nice to serve something small there, but which, in the event of a naughty man, could set fire to a dozen oil tankers at the entrance and exit of the Suez Canal. A sort of icy fingers squeezing the eggs of the world economy.

Well, why are you being modest, rush right away London, Washington, New York and Hong Kong and trade oil on the Maskovy exchange.

[faiver]

rush at once london, washington new york and hong kong

- so before that you need to sell all the real estate there, transfer the bills to Austria, take out the children, wives, mistresses, mother-in-law, and it's not in vain that they say - one move is equal to three fires ...

[alexmach]

Well, it's only 1000 miles to Syria, three days of economic progress

And one Suez Canal :)

What kind of ships will be supplied / serviced by this MTO point?

In general, there is someone in the region on a regular basis. The last, judging by the news, was Yaroslav the Wise - he met Academician Chersky, and Vice-Admiral Vinogradov accompanied him to Sri Lanka.

[t-12]

Yaroslav the Wise - met Academician Chersky

When was that? A year ago? Do you need a supply base for three or four ships passing the Red Sea per year?

[alexmach]

Do you need a supply base for three or four ships passing the Red Sea per year?

Well, somehow these "walkers" need to be supplied. In addition, a lot of these patrol ships 22160 were set up there, and in theory they are only suitable for trips there. As if having ships and a base could increase the intensity of operations there .. for some reason. Keep a small constant grouping.

More corvettes from the Baltic were there just when Evergiven was aground. They waited until they were removed.

[Xscorpion]

A detachment of Russian ships from the Pacific Fleet is regularly stationed in those parts to ensure the safety of navigation, and they rotate every six months, not counting ships and submarines making inter-fleet transitions and long voyages, so there is someone to base there.

[aftbreeze]

Just about, have you forgotten about the civilian fleet? Why not bunker there, as in Soviet times in Aden during the transition from Europe to Asia?

[Lara Croft]

According to experts, Khartoum is trying to knock out the highest possible price from Moscow

an agreement on the lease of the territory for the Russian point of material and technical support is signed for a period of five years with the possibility of extension for another 25 years

Most likely, the Russian Federation will send Khartoum with this absurd request to hell ...

[OgnennyiKotik]

Quote: Lara Croft

Most likely, the Russian Federation will send Khartoum with this absurd request to hell.

It looks like this calculation. Offer obviously impossible conditions. Refusal without refusal.

[bayard]

The administration of the Russian Federation has already written off the debts to Sudan, for which they should have received a PMTO on lease for the Navy.
So why the new administration of Sudan ... this Russian Federation, when it now receives preferences from the United States.
NEVER PAY UP!
Was it weak to first receive everything that was due from the debtors, and only then write off?
... The hand of good distribution is wide ... State ... People's good ...

[Tusv]

Quote: bayard

The Russian administration has already written off debts to Sudan

Interesting debt write-offs in Russia. It seems to have been written off, but they should still, and if they shouldn't, then they must. By the way. If you took out a loan and you fell into a prodigal, you will be charged a penalty. Debt cancellation is basically the forgiveness of debts under penalties. The body of debt and interest is not forgiving from the word never

[max702]

Quote: bayard

NEVER PAY UP!
Was it weak to first receive everything that was due from the debtors, and only then write off?
... The hand of good distribution is wide ... State ... People's good ...

Duc

60 million dollar

[Lara Croft]

Quote: bayard

The administration of the Russian Federation has already wrote off the debts to Sudan, for which the PMTO should have been leased for the Navy.

If in the Restructuring Agreement it was written that the debts are written off against the lease, and the lease is not provided, then the debt is automatically restored, but this is how the cunning Sudanese do not refuse to provide the lease, it only indicates a lease term of five years, with the possibility (not obligation) to prolong it for another 25 years ...
So, for a lease of 5 years, the Russian Federation will not invest much in the place of lease ...
The Russian Federation can, of course, take revenge, organize BHVT on the shore and sell VT and V from it to the enemies of Sudan, for example, Egypt is very dissatisfied with Sudan ...

[Nafanya from the sofa]

Another "papuasos chitrozados"?

[Reserve officer]

There, for an hour, isn't Lukashenka instructing them?

[St_Igor]

Petrels don't need bases.

[Ryaruav]

so the Poseidons need

[parusnik]

5 years is a reasonable period if nothing happens to the real government in 5 years, it will be extended by 25, and if it does, it’s not destiny. But money up front.

[Knell wardenheart]

Here it is

Sudanese authorities intend to receive economic assistance from Russia

and it

under the Russian point of material and technical service

and finally this

signed for a period of five years

Taken together, this makes an already not a good idea just a strange stupidity.
Firstly, the current authorities may also turn out to be temporary, and the next authorities will ask us to leave in 5 years - 5 years is not a period for the object at all.
Secondly, "economic aid" would not hurt us ourselves right now - let me remind you that the key rate was raised to 6.75%, which kakbe hints at growing inflationary tendencies, which there is nothing to cover in the foreseeable future.
Thirdly, and finally, the "MTO point" is not a base - in general, this is such a little solution to garbage, to which we will not be able to attach any sensible infrastructure, or an airfield, or sensible defense. It is such a thing to shower uncooperative partners with a golden rain for the sake of the MTO item.
In 5 years, their banana democrats will be brought a suitcase or two from Uncle Sam - this is the end of our "base".

[Eug]

In my opinion, the ideal place (purely geographically) was at the MTO point on Socotra. But who to negotiate with now seems to be a mystery not only for me.

[Doccor18]

Berbera is a very good place not only for PMTO, but also for a serious naval base (in the future). The airfield is close by from three kilometers. Runway. And the "authorities" of "Somaliland", I think, are not as spoiled by attention and financial goodies as the Sudanese ...

[Tusv]

Dexterously, ours were kicked out. Five plus twenty-five is about nothing. Let their own port defend

[ximkim]

Since money is tight in your pocket ..
Russia will agree to the terms of Sudan.

[Chief Officer Lom]

Americans in their repertoire. Not only do they want to deprive us of our base in Sudan (of course, not counting all the other proceeds from the robbery of Sudan), but they also want us to pay for it in full before that.

[sifgame]

Just like women with low social responsibility, how to sell themselves more expensive))) well, their right and opportunities.

[Azis]

Aha, "will you renew?"

[Revival]

These conditions are quite similar to the scheme:
We will receive economic assistance, they will invest, they will rebuild everything, but we will not extend the agreement ...

[Chief Officer Lom]

To shower with a golden rain on uncooperative partners for the sake of the MTO point is such a thing.

While we are pretending to be angels among the garbage, the Americans are simply replacing by any means governments that dare not give them their countries on a silver platter. China has begun to invest hundreds of billions in 3rd world countries, but they are far from believing in a "just world order" and are building a huge fleet to protect their investments, not for the legendary takeover of Taiwan.

[Looking for]

all these bases and points at the slightest conflict are nothing but "traps" for the Russian fleet. Suffice it to recall Port Arthur.

[A. Privalov]

The regional media quoted the words of Admiral Kravchenko.

The location of the Russian naval base in this region allows control of the Red Sea and the coast of the Arabian Peninsula. The shortest route between the Indian Ocean and the Mediterranean Sea of ​​the Atlantic Ocean runs along the waters of the Red Sea. This allows water transport to pass both ways between Europe and Asia without skirting Africa. There pass the most important transport arteries from Europe through the Suez Canal, the Red Sea to the Indian Ocean, in the direction of Asia and Australia. Anyone with naval bases in the Red Sea can easily take control of the Bab al-Mandeb Strait, through which supplies of hydrocarbons from the monarchies of the Persian Gulf go to the United States and the EU.

He loudly voiced the fact that neighboring countries are afraid like fire and see this only in terrible dreams.
To say that not everyone at BV is happy about this is to say nothing. The Americans are Americans, but Khartoum appears to be under pressure from its neighbors. They say that today it is an MTO point, and tomorrow it will be a full-fledged base. Like, was Egypt not enough for us in the 60s and 70s, when he launched the USSR to himself? Djibouti and Eritrea are very worried about the Bab el-Mandeb Strait. In a word, everything is not so simple there.

[alexmach]

Djibouti and Eritrea are very worried about the Bab el-Mandeb strait

Djibouti is the one with two foreign bases at the same time? Are you worried? It's really not that simple.

[Roman_vh]

This "Telavi" is worried. Igipet bothers them babelmandebtsam.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: alexmach

Djibouti is the one with two foreign bases at the same time? Are you worried? It's really not that simple.

In Djibouti there are not two, but 5 (five!) Foreign military bases.
It is a lucrative business for a small and poor country. The US pays $ 63 million a year to rent its base, the French $ 36 million, China $ 20 million, and Italy $ 2,6 million. The amount Japan pays has not been published.

For a country with a population of 750 thousand, these are more than noticeable numbers.

Everyone gets along there. And the Mouse, and the Frog, and the Chanterelle ... A kind of Terem-teremok there.
In Djibouti, they know this tale and think well whether they need a new player in the region.

[alexmach]

This is a profitable business for a small and poor country.

So are they worried about the strait, or about the appearance of competitors? Why should they worry, where do they go to the sixth base?

Everyone gets along there.

Well, it's not entirely clear how China managed to get in there. With the rest of the ghouls - no questions like.

[A. Privalov]

Quote: alexmach

This is a profitable business for a small and poor country.

So are they worried about the strait, or about the appearance of competitors? Why should they worry, where do they go to the sixth base?

Everyone gets along there.

Well, it's not entirely clear how China managed to get in there. With the rest of the ghouls - no questions like.

Well, so you correctly answered your own question: the sixth base in the IM region and nafik is not needed.

For a country that does not have an industry at all, with an almost complete absence of minerals, China is a lifesaver - the main supplier of everything and everyone (60%), and it also pays two tens of millions for its base. What more could you want?
By the way, Djibouti is a source of Belarusian pineapples, kiwi and other shrimp with octopuses.

[lopvlad]

the Sudanese authorities intend to receive economic assistance from Russia, while the agreement on the lease of the territory for the Russian point of material and technical support is signed for a period of five years with the possibility of extension

5 years is about nothing. If they want economic assistance from Russia, then the lease period should be 25 years with the possibility of extension, otherwise they want to receive money from Russia and then refuse to extend the base after 5 years.

[Sands Careers General]

Sudan is important. The Yankees will go through the forest. Do not feed them with bread, just create a hotbed of instability, especially in such an important place

[reserve]

The Sudanese authorities have announced their readiness to host a Russian naval base for 25 years. Super headline. I read the news about 5 years and ours did not agree, but in the news there is an agreement for 25 years. The journalists are STUPID, they offered ours 5 years and there was no agreement yet. Just like in tank biathlon, the tank made a hole in the target. What is a hole xs. I hit right in the center of a good hole)))

[Cat]

How can we not remember our Kipling's Rudyard:
"For your health, fuzzy
For Sudan - your country!
First class, unchrist naked
You were a warrior in battle. "
Hmm, times are changing ...

[Serge-667]

"Wouldn't hurt" is not an argument.
The base must be watered, fed and guarded. This is money. The base should have a rotation of units carrying combat alert. If this is again a shuttle business from the remaining half-dead amphibious ships, and you also need to kiss black-asses, then in general .. (Here is a checkmate)

[gsev]

And it makes sense for Russia to climb into Sudan with its cooperation. I would postpone this until Ethiopia fills up its reservoir and launches a new hydropower plant. Sudan can start a war with Christian Ethiopia for Russian aid for permission to lease the base and for American aid for canceling a Russian lease. If Sudanese diplomats show ingenuity, they will be able to let Russia and the United States go around.

[Dikson]

And no one expected anything else .. This whole idea initially smelled like a gamble and a divorce for money .. Just another "brotherly" Papuans who agree to be friends with someone who has more beautiful glass beads .. Otherwise, nothing will work .. This earlier, the Marxist-Leninist ideology and belief in a just socialist world community allowed for some time to fool various Papuans and use their lands and resources .. Well, forgive them multimillion-dollar debts .. And now, in the absence of a clear ideology, all international relations are based on exclusively financial basis .. In the morning - money, in the evening - chairs, and the next morning - kick in the ass and we do not know you ..))) So it will work out with this pier in Sudan .. At any moment, the Americans will lay out a bundle of thicker banknotes - and Sudanese Papuans will weigh a magic pendel to our gallant sailors ..

[zwlad]

I did not understand the couple. So what conditions, which became known, are we talking about?

[Alexander Maltsev]

The President has repeatedly stated that our country is taking a defensive position to protect the state. The base in the Red Sea is not a defense, but an attack. Again, will we feed the unfaithful "friends" who will inevitably deceive?

[75 Sergey]

Well, how to say, knowing the location of the main combat units, this is already halfway to victory if something happens.

[Logic]

Sudan is courting not Russia, but the United States.
Russia is just an excuse to put pressure on the printing press.

[Freedim]

Yes, there is not so necessary to act. To send all the kings of the coastal states the terms of the tender-auction: Humanitarian aid for 12 million rubles a year (and a ticket for an excursion to the Kremlin), in exchange for xxxx square meters of the coast. Every week the amount is reduced by 1 million. The first one who agrees wins the tender.
I think, not a week will pass, as there will be 5 places for bases along the entire coast

[75 Sergey]

Washington buys everyone!
As a result, we will be left without an MTO base, but it is possible to "help" Sudan by joining the United States with more Baku ones.

[vladimych]

Where are the conditions? damn, cockypastas are shitty

[Woland]

Whatever agreement you sign with these Sudanese, they cost no more than the paper on which they were written. Kagritsa. "we know, they swam" therefore, they shouldn't give them any money. If they don't want to, don't.