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APRK of the Northern Fleet "Eagle" fired missile system "Granit"

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Nuclear submarine missile cruiser Severny fleet "Eagle" of project 949A "Antey" performed rocket fire in the Barents Sea, hitting a surface target imitating an enemy ship. This was reported by the press service of the Northern Fleet.


The firing was reportedly fired from a submerged position with the Granit anti-ship cruise missile. According to objective control data, the missile hit the target at a distance of more than 100 km. It is noted that the Granit anti-ship missile system, which is equipped with the Project 949A APRK, is still effective. weapons to combat surface ship groupings. The complex is capable of hitting targets at a distance of up to 500 kilometers, overcoming the enemy's anti-missile defense.

The press service explained that the combat training was conducted as part of the exercises of the Northern Fleet. On Saturday, naval targets in the Barents Sea were hit by the destroyer Admiral Ushakov and the Bal missile system.

APRK K-266 "Oryol" is the eighth ship of Project 949A, code "Antey". Laid down on January 19, 1989, launched on May 22, 1992. It entered the Northern Fleet on February 5, 1993. Displacement above water 14700 tons, underwater 23860 tons. The longest length at design waterline is 154 meters, the largest hull width is 18,2 meters, the average draft at design waterline is 9,2 meters. Surface speed 15 knots, underwater speed 32 knots. The working depth of immersion is 520 meters, the maximum immersion depth is 600 meters. The sailing endurance is 120 days. The crew is 130 people.
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  1. pl675
    pl675 12 September 2021 12: 46
    -25
    rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?
    Yeah…
    no, I am sincerely glad, but in my time they did not shout about it so loudly.
    1. lucul
      lucul 12 September 2021 12: 49
      +6
      rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?

      Ordinary rocket firing for Russia.
      How are things going with rocket firing in Israel?)))
      1. pl675
        pl675 12 September 2021 12: 55
        -14
        uncle, look about it on the net.
        or ask Russian oligarchs with Jewish passports.
        I am completely unaware of what is happening in the promised land.
        1. seti
          seti 12 September 2021 13: 56
          +3
          Quote: pl675
          ask Russian oligarchs with Jewish passports.
          .

          Can you talk about these in more detail?
          1. pl675
            pl675 12 September 2021 15: 38
            -12
            Quote: seti
            Quote: pl675
            ask Russian oligarchs with Jewish passports.
            .

            Can you talk about these in more detail?


            easily.
            of the latter, Abramovich, whose billions have been withdrawn from Russia.
            this can be done.
          2. Ryaruav
            Ryaruav 12 September 2021 19: 50
            -6
            so they are all like that for your government personally
      2. Bolt cutter
        Bolt cutter 12 September 2021 13: 09
        -4
        Is Israel's Rocket Firing?
        You lucul have an unhealthy obsessive interest in Israel all the time. And the Torah was read to the same belay Maybe it's time for conversion smile ?
        1. Shkworen
          Shkworen 12 September 2021 14: 00
          -4
          yes it would be time for a Brit mila :)
          1. Bolt cutter
            Bolt cutter 12 September 2021 14: 12
            -4
            it's time for a Brit mile
            Decided - and that's the end of it good
        2. lucul
          lucul 12 September 2021 15: 15
          -5
          You lucul have an unhealthy obsessive interest in Israel all the time. And the Torah was read to the same belay Maybe it's time for conversion

          Well, you know better from England)))
      3. smart ass
        smart ass 12 September 2021 14: 53
        0
        This is Kursk's sister ship?
        1. Grits
          Grits 12 September 2021 15: 52
          +9
          Quote: Clever man
          This is Kursk's sister ship?

          Yes. At the time when the "Eagle" was at the pier of Sevmash, I worked on the opposite side of the bay - at "Zvezdochka" and admired this new handsome man. And with what envious eyes the Indians looked at such ships from the Varshavankas being repaired ...
    2. seregin-s1
      seregin-s1 12 September 2021 12: 55
      +15
      This is news in the "News" section of the site about the military-industrial complex. What surprises you?
      1. pl675
        pl675 12 September 2021 13: 02
        -22
        Quote: seregin-s1
        This is news in the "News" section of the site about the military-industrial complex. What surprises you?


        you missed a little -
        is the military-industrial complex of the USSR.
        1. From Tomsk
          From Tomsk 12 September 2021 13: 06
          +5
          Millions of rubles for nothing, it would be better if they gave it to pensioners.
          But the Ukrusiya naval raft owns a modern new generation Neptune missile. She always returns to her native nest.)))
        2. Cron
          Cron 12 September 2021 13: 38
          +11
          Quote: pl675
          you missed a little -
          is the military-industrial complex of the USSR.

          This is the military-industrial complex of Russia and no matter what it was called before.
          1. pl675
            pl675 12 September 2021 14: 38
            -19
            Quote: Cron
            Quote: pl675
            you missed a little -
            is the military-industrial complex of the USSR.

            This is the military-industrial complex of Russia and no matter what it was called before.


            do you define the wording here?
            what is important and what is not?
            teach your wife to cook cabbage soup, forgive, but you are intrusive.
        3. 1976AG
          1976AG 12 September 2021 14: 53
          +6
          Yes, the military-industrial complex was created in the USSR, but what of that? Everyone already knows about this, why did you emphasize this?
        4. seregin-s1
          seregin-s1 12 September 2021 17: 53
          +3
          Launching on May 22, 1992. In fact, it was completed in Russia. And in combat condition for 30 years they were supported in Russia. Both the Russian missiles and the Russian crew! And the adversary will die from a Russian missile!
          1. pl675
            pl675 12 September 2021 18: 33
            -17
            you throw the cap higher!
    3. poquello
      poquello 12 September 2021 13: 09
      +7
      Quote: pl675
      rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?
      Yeah…
      no, I am sincerely glad, but in my time they did not shout about it so loudly.

      Have you heard something about granites during your time? Oh well
      1. pl675
        pl675 12 September 2021 13: 28
        -22
        "Well, well" is the cavalry
        missile complex "granite" is the development of the ussr
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 September 2021 13: 34
          +7
          Quote: pl675
          "Well, well" is the cavalry
          missile complex "granite" is the development of the ussr

          "well, well" when you were a secret rocket, about which, as you put it))))))))))))))) they shouted softly
          1. pl675
            pl675 12 September 2021 13: 41
            -20
            I did not understand at all what you wanted to say, suppose something meaningful, but the number of brackets completely discouraged the desire to communicate.
            That's all I wanted to say.
            Thank you.
        2. tarakan
          tarakan 12 September 2021 14: 26
          -3
          So emigrate in the USSR
          1. zadorin1974
            zadorin1974 12 September 2021 14: 46
            0
            Dobrogo. If there was a possibility of emigration to the USSR at least in the late seventies, then Russia would have lost at least a third of its population. Sadly, but this is a fact.
    4. Cron
      Cron 12 September 2021 13: 36
      +2
      rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?
      Yeah…
      no, I am sincerely glad, but in my time they did not shout about it so loudly.

      Well, when you weren't much shouted about, just what does it say? And giving out random news on Topwar as a loud shout is of course strong
    5. Bez 310
      Bez 310 12 September 2021 13: 49
      -8
      Quote: pl675
      rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?
      Yeah…

      Positive news is badly needed on the eve of the elections.
      But the news is "so-so", 100 km is not the distance for this rocket.
      1. poquello
        poquello 12 September 2021 14: 08
        +1
        Quote: Bez 310
        Positive news is badly needed on the eve of the elections.
        But the news is "so-so"

        as anyone, very pleased that old women are still alive on the submarines, this phalanx rocket goes through butter like a knife
      2. Podvodnik
        Podvodnik 12 September 2021 14: 22
        +5
        100 km is not the distance for this rocket.


        Here is another problem! Find a suitable range and ensure the safety of shooting. Until you disperse everyone away from sin .... Otherwise, the fishermen might not have read the alert. Even if you run the blank, when it hits the average MRI, there will be no time for SOS delivery. It will go to the bottom instantly.
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 12 September 2021 14: 42
          -9
          Quote: Podvodnik
          Here is another problem! Find a suitable range and ensure the safety of shooting.

          Do not!
          Don't try to justify the lack of confidence in command
          Navy in the missile "lack of range".
          I know a little what a "training ground", "shooting safety",
          and how to ensure the "cleanliness of the area".
          1. Stepan S
            Stepan S 12 September 2021 16: 14
            +2
            I know a little what a "training ground", "shooting safety",
            and how to ensure the "cleanliness of the area".

            Of course, it seems that on the resource you alone know everything, you could see better from above how the entire flotilla provides the firing of one ship. Now in the Northern Fleet, even harbor tugs have been driven out to close the areas. And where do you order them to chap for 500 km?
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 12 September 2021 17: 45
              -3
              Quote: Stepan S
              ... the entire flotilla provides the firing of one ship. Now in the Northern Fleet, even harbor tugs have been driven out to close the areas.

              Well, you are ... do not upset us, we believe:

              "Northern Fleet, Northern Fleet,
              The Northern Fleet will not let you down!
              No, not in vain at all times
              The country is proud of the Northern Fleet! "
          2. Bez 310
            Bez 310 12 September 2021 16: 15
            +3
            Quote: Bez 310
            I know a little what a "shooting range" is, "shooting safety", and how to ensure "cleanliness of the area".

            Well, just out of life.

            Departure "for support"

            I reported: "Free ahead," the commander confirmed: "Understood, I am taxiing to the right," and we drove to the lane. We drove quickly, even too fast, and there were reasons for that. We were late, and we were very late. We were going to fly out to support the forces of the fleet. Regular "support" flight.
            What is "collateral"? This is work in the interests of ships and submarines. The work can be different: inspection of the area, jamming, flying as air targets, monitoring the results of the strike, and a lot of other things, which I will not tell you about.
            Flight "to support" is always interesting for its non-standard, and some freedom of action. Such flights are not only interesting, but also quite difficult in that it is necessary either to pass very precisely along a given route, or to precisely go to a given point in time and place. These flights are also complicated by the need to communicate with ships, and this activity is not for the faint of heart. Sailors are trying to communicate using code tables in open networks, conventional phrases, numbers, words. I don’t know why, but the VHF radio stations on ships are bad, and the sailors have no experience in radio communication with aircraft.
            In general, in most cases, attempts at coded communication between ships and aircraft boil down to the well-known case:
            Cruiser - 323!
            Airplane - I don't understand, repeat ...
            Cruiser - 323! 323!
            Airplane - Only the background comes from you, I don't understand, repeat ...
            Cruiser - Yes, let it go, launched a rocket, watch!
            Airplane - Got it, let it go, I'm watching.
            Well, and there is one more feature when working with sailors - they do not know how to do anything on time. Perhaps they are trying, but the general organization of affairs in the fleet is such that it is impossible to guess whether the ships will arrive at a given point on time, or not at all. Hence the problems with our flights. In order for us to reach the set point on time, we must take off on time, and this does not always work out, and all because the sailors are in no hurry to bring us changes in their plans.
            And this time the sailors did not change themselves, they confirmed their "work" with a delay, so we taxied very quickly, and I already figured out where I would cut the route, since even the maximum speed would not save us, and it is not recommended to be late, these sailors later such a story will blow up that everyone will get it.
            We taxied to the runway, read the map, the commander asks for take-off, we are allowed to do everything, but the plane, instead of starting the takeoff run, is standing still. I can't stand it:
            - Well?
            - Wait…
            - But where to wait ?! And so let's go to the limit ...
            - Yes, you wait, e-mine!
            There is some kind of fuss in the cockpit ... I open the curtain, look at the commander, and see a marvelous picture - the commander has unfastened all the parachute and harness belts, and is trying to take off his lifebelt with one inflated float. It is tight, uncomfortable, the inflated float touches all protruding objects, in general, the pilots are not bored, and even interesting.
            And somehow it "let go" ... I calmed down and began to wait for everything to happen. The commander tore off his belt, threw it into the passage, got into all the belts, and we took off. The flight went well, without incident.
            1. Stepan S
              Stepan S 13 September 2021 11: 09
              +3
              Well, and there is one more feature when working with sailors - they do not know how to do anything on time. Perhaps they are trying, but the general organization of affairs in the fleet is as follows

              Well, yes, the realities are such that the speed of ships is orders of magnitude lower than in aviation, respectively, and the response is the same. Everything is happening so slowly. It is even necessary to move away from the pier and leave the base for several hours.
              I don’t know why, but the VHF radio stations on ships are bad, and the sailors have no experience in radio communication with aircraft

              This feature has always surprised me too. The VHF radio station on the bridge was always tuned to channel 16, but no one had ever used it. Even for communication with civilian ships.
              Even to the headquarters, a message that we weighed anchor and we were following to the place was sent by a radiogram, although it was possible to shout from the bridge even without a walkie-talkie.
          3. Serg65
            Serg65 13 September 2021 06: 58
            -2
            Quote: Bez 310
            I know a little

            Don't drive the wave, Vasya! You don’t know a damn thing!
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 13 September 2021 08: 16
              0
              Quote: Serg65
              You don't know a fig!

              Well yes...
              If I didn't have to fly to inspect the area in front of the BP,
              to search for the fallen off stages of missiles, to develop the Instruction
              operating the landfill, study design and survey work, manage flights to
              polygon, then I would know even less than "not a fig".
              1. Serg65
                Serg65 13 September 2021 10: 03
                -2
                Quote: Bez 310
                Well yes

                Quote: Bez 310
                I know a little what a "polygon

                The name of the SF landfill where you can shoot for 500 km?
                1. Bez 310
                  Bez 310 13 September 2021 10: 18
                  0
                  Quote: Serg65
                  The name of the SF landfill where you can shoot for 500 km?

                  I think that you do not know at all how to organize
                  rocket firing. What, missiles only at landfills
                  shot? Or did the Tu-22m3 launch the X-22 only on the ranges?
                  I will disappoint you - if necessary, the area is equipped, it is calculated in advance, closed, monitored, and guarded by all possible means.
                  Have you yourself ever taken part in organizing missile launches? Or can you demonstrate your conjectures to us only on the website?
                  1. Serg65
                    Serg65 13 September 2021 11: 15
                    -1
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    I will disappoint you

                    You have disappointed me for a long time!
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    if necessary, the area is equipped

                    Quote: Bez 310
                    I know a little what a "polygon" is

                    So, where do you think the firing area for the maximum missile range should be equipped? And do not forget to take into account the traffic intensity of sea vessels along the NSR!
                    Quote: Bez 310
                    Have you yourself ever taken part in the organization of launches?

                    No, I’m starting up boats more and more in the basin!
                    1. Bez 310
                      Bez 310 13 September 2021 11: 18
                      0
                      Quote: Serg65
                      You have disappointed me for a long time!

                      Let's end this unnecessary discussion with this.
                      I already understood everything - everything is fine in the Navy with missiles, here
                      only there is nowhere to start them at the maximum range.
                      So be it...
                      1. Serg65
                        Serg65 13 September 2021 11: 21
                        -1
                        Quote: Bez 310
                        Let's end this unnecessary discussion with this.

                        This discussion would not have happened if it were not your fantasies about naval aviation and about yourself personally!
                        Quote: Bez 310
                        only there is nowhere to start them at the maximum range.

                        laughing What for?
      3. 1976AG
        1976AG 12 September 2021 15: 01
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        Quote: pl675
        rocket firing rank-and-file on the news?
        Yeah…

        Positive news is badly needed on the eve of the elections.
        But the news is "so-so", 100 km is not the distance for this rocket.

        What does the election have to do with it? Here every day there is news and every day they are discussed. They simply informed about the fact of the shooting, no one tried to pass it off as some kind of achievement.
        1. Bez 310
          Bez 310 12 September 2021 15: 04
          -5
          Quote: 1976AG
          What does the election have to do with it?

          Indeed, "What does the election have to do with it?"
          1. 1976AG
            1976AG 12 September 2021 15: 09
            0
            That is, you yourself cannot answer?
            1. Bez 310
              Bez 310 12 September 2021 15: 16
              -7
              Quote: 1976AG
              Can't you answer yourself?

              I do not consider it necessary to argue with you.
              1. 1976AG
                1976AG 12 September 2021 15: 17
                -1
                So I was not mistaken, you have no arguments.
          2. Region-25.rus
            Region-25.rus 12 September 2021 16: 40
            -1
            Indeed, “What does the election have to do with it?
            and in fact. Pensioners were handed out 10.000 each (one-time). Well, or while they promise to distribute. And in fact, what does the election have to do with it? what Billboards are hanging there with faces of edrosov and representatives of their pocket parties ... All sorts of populist slogans (I've been listening and reading for thirty years already) ... yes .. The elections have absolutely nothing to do with it wassat
            1. 1976AG
              1976AG 12 September 2021 18: 27
              -1
              One more ... What does rocket firing and elections have to do with it?
              1. Region-25.rus
                Region-25.rus 12 September 2021 18: 55
                -3
                What does rocket fire and elections have to do with it?
                do you know what PR is? No? Well then, there really is no point -
                Quote: Bez 310
                Quote: 1976AG
                Can't you answer yourself?

                I do not consider it necessary to argue with you.
                1. 1976AG
                  1976AG 12 September 2021 19: 47
                  +1
                  Do you know what it is to look for something that is not in sight? Do you think it is necessary to introduce a taboo on all news because of the elections? or only good ones? Or was it just the teachings that had to be canceled? Or not to cancel, but not to illuminate in any way .. Your logic is strange. If you think that ordinary shooting is PR .. then it really makes no sense to argue.
                  1. Region-25.rus
                    Region-25.rus 12 September 2021 20: 55
                    -5
                    that's like only three years younger, but it feels like I'm communicating with a modern schoolboy (((it's sad.
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 12 September 2021 22: 39
                      +3
                      Quote: Region-25.rus
                      that's like only three years younger, but it feels like I'm communicating with a modern schoolboy (((it's sad.

                      Do you know my age ??? And why stack potatoes with bricks? You don't have to add anything there. Shooting has nothing to do with PR.
                  2. Region-25.rus
                    Region-25.rus 12 September 2021 20: 56
                    -3
                    Or was it just the teachings that had to be canceled? Or not to cancel, but not to cover in any way.
                    only at one time it was commonplace. And now they are promoting like a super-duper achievement! Is that clearer?
                    1. 1976AG
                      1976AG 12 September 2021 22: 38
                      -1
                      This is commonplace now, but you will not understand in any way, you measure everything with old standards (
                    2. 1976AG
                      1976AG 12 September 2021 22: 41
                      +2
                      ". And now they are promoting like a super-duper achievement! Is that clearer?"
                      On what basis did you determine that this shooting is a super achievement ?? Except for your imagination, this is nowhere)
      4. Kalmar
        Kalmar 13 September 2021 09: 14
        +2
        Quote: Bez 310
        But the news is "so-so", 100 km is not the distance for this rocket.

        Probably, they worked out the launch according to data from their own SAC, without external target designation. Or they simply checked the principled combat readiness of the Granites: after all, the rocket is not brandy, it does not get better over the years.
    6. mvg
      mvg 12 September 2021 14: 07
      +1
      in my time they didn’t shout about it so loudly

      Shooting with Granite is immediately commented on in the news and in the media too. Well, the fact that 956 Ushakov is still in the ranks is news! If he did not fire from the pier with a Mosquito (though they didn’t say what, maybe Hurricane air defense missile system in general)
      Granite has shot about as many times in the last 5 years. 1 time in Syria, 2 times in Okhotsk, 1 in Barents. They will be written off right now, so they are being shot.
      1. poquello
        poquello 12 September 2021 14: 16
        0
        Quote: mvg
        They will be written off right now, so they are being shot.

        it's a pity, of course, hypersonic
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    8. Stepan S
      Stepan S 12 September 2021 16: 08
      +2
      rocket firing squadrons

      Rocket firing was not an ordinary event even in your time.
    9. sifgame
      sifgame 12 September 2021 16: 15
      0
      Yes, something is not visible joy in your post, it seems that no one is shouting, so passing news, on a thematic site.
    10. Ilya_Nsk
      Ilya_Nsk 12 September 2021 18: 02
      -1
      Sorry, dear, but "Granit" is not an ordinary rocket and costs almost like a fighter .. It is surprising that the shooting was not conducted at the maximum distance in undescribed conditions .. That would be fired at night, in a storm and a storm on the "receiving" side, Yes, in the conditions of electronic warfare, and even drowned - this report would be a source of pride. And here we were sinking our old frigate: they spent UABs from small and large bombers, anti-ship missiles from a fighter, a large torpedo from a nuclear submarine - sank after 1.5 days
    11. Maikcg
      Maikcg 12 September 2021 23: 51
      -1
      But it’s completely in vain that the political leaders didn’t shout “and d and o t s,” the citizens heard pershngs, abrams and star wars. And about a peaceful armored train on the side tracks and a vertical take-off and landing tractor, a few lucky ones considered in smuggled foreign magazines about military equipment.
    12. Serge-667
      Serge-667 14 September 2021 10: 19
      0
      And the hat-hangers completely eliminated)))))
  2. hrych
    hrych 12 September 2021 12: 47
    +13
    This is a true "Assassin of aircraft carriers, not a Taiwanese corvette. Moreover, it is not enough to have 24 powerful missiles with half a megaton SBS, an atomic reactor that gives the speed of pursuit of enemy formations and a depth of immersion of more than a kilometer, but also a satellite Legend, without which the concept of" Assassin "is flawed. Now Liana and ZGRLS
    1. Flooding
      Flooding 12 September 2021 13: 00
      +14
      Quote: hrych
      This is the true "Killer of aircraft carriers, not a Taiwanese corvette

      what is called, estimate the scale

      loading anti-ship missiles P-700 "Granite" in PU
      1. Grits
        Grits 12 September 2021 15: 59
        +3
        Quote: Flood
        loading anti-ship missiles P-700 "Granite" in PU

        I personally observed this event. True, most likely, "blanks". Since it was Sevmash and preparation for testing.
    2. poquello
      poquello 12 September 2021 13: 28
      +3
      Quote: hrych
      without which the concept of "Killer" is flawed.

      oh well, if from a distance, at the head of granite the capture is 70 km
      1. mvg
        mvg 12 September 2021 14: 12
        0
        at the head of the granite capture 70 km

        40 km on a RCS of 300 m2, +/- 30 ° on the horizon, if it does not find it, it starts to twist. There will be a stealth frigate, generally sad. They did not write anything about replacing the GOS.
        1. poquello
          poquello 12 September 2021 16: 50
          +1
          Quote: mvg
          There will be a stealth frigate, generally sad

          so it was done when, and yet if it flies closer to the stealth, maybe it will see
          1. mvg
            mvg 12 September 2021 17: 03
            +2
            to stealth it will fly closer and maybe see

            See the algorithm for yourself. There is a control center for 500 km, a rocket is launched, it flies to this point at an altitude of 18-20 km on gyroscopes (inertial) and astrocorrection. Km for a few turns on the seeker and starts scanning back and forth, if it sees a target, it goes down and goes towards it. The second option, the target leaves, during the time that the anti-ship missile flies, the rocket arrives, starts scanning and .... nifiga. There are search algorithms, but if the target has 10 m 2 RCS, then the nifiga does not see. And if, it is also "jammed", as the Jews jammed Termites P-15, then the result is zero.
            Granite is intended for AUG, where there are a lot of ships in the warrant, perhaps, we will catch on to something ... Well, plus that it is relatively smart. They fly out in a flock, in front of the leader, if he is knocked down, another RCC leads the flock. Against a single frigate, the missile is useless. It is necessary to change the GOS. But ... the rocket is 35-40 years old, it was created mainly in Ukraine, the creator of Chalomei ... it's useless to modernize. It is necessary to remodel the mines for Zircons .. 3-4 pieces will fit
            1. poquello
              poquello 12 September 2021 17: 26
              +1
              Quote: mvg
              There are search algorithms, but if the target has 10 m 2 RCS, then the nifiga does not see.

              the reflected signal increases with decreasing distance, what the radar does not see from 40, it sees from 4 km
              Quote: mvg
              They fly out in a flock, in front of the leader, if he is knocked down, another RCC leads the flock. The missile is useless against a single frigate.

              no, but if a steamer with a large reflection is nearby, it sailed
              Quote: mvg
              it is useless to modernize. It is necessary to remodel the mines for Zircons .. 3-4 pieces will fit

              yes, the efficiency of the mass to the place is already rather weak
              1. mvg
                mvg 12 September 2021 17: 43
                0
                he sees from 4 km

                Granite will cover 500 km in 20 minutes (acceleration still), in 20 minutes a warrant or a separate frigate will cover 20 km ... Question: What will he see? Minus errors with which Granite will fly to the point
                steamer with great reflection - it sailed

                There is a correction of goals "Leader" distributes goals. Have you seen tankers or container ships on the BD site for a long time? It is clear that there is no optical channel, it does not distinguish the silhouettes of ships. So, for Granite, the ideal option is a container ship, with a capacity of 300 tons, traveling at a speed of 000 miles per hour.
                1. poquello
                  poquello 12 September 2021 18: 09
                  +1
                  Quote: mvg
                  Granite will cover 500 km in 20 minutes (acceleration still), in 20 minutes a warrant or a separate frigate will cover 20 km ... Question: What will he see? Minus errors with which Granite will fly to the point

                  so I'm not about 500 km but about luck if it falls out next to the target
                  Quote: mvg
                  There is a correction of goals "Leader" distributes goals

                  so there is most likely one of the signs from a larger reflection to a smaller one, well, maybe it still calculates the length, although it is unlikely
                  1. mvg
                    mvg 12 September 2021 19: 06
                    0
                    if it falls out next to the target

                    The speed of the target is calculated, the time of arrival and released to the point ahead of time, this is understandable. But 500 km is 500 km. There is no GPS, the distance is long, there will be errors.
                    I say, in the Arab-Israeli wars, Egyptian and Syrian missile boats pr 205 Tarantula and pr 183 Komar fired 60+ anti-ship missiles at Israeli corvettes, not a single hit.
                    Sinked the stationary destroyer Eilat, 1948 British-built. These are all successes, well, they lit a couple of onshore oil storage facilities. Lost almost all of our own.
                    When the Georgian boats in 2008 flooded onto our UDC pr 755, they were drowned by the Mirage MRK, and the OSA air defense missile system from 30 km had Madakhit on board the anti-ship missile system (like) I don't know why. Only assumptions.
                    1. hrych
                      hrych 12 September 2021 20: 03
                      +1
                      To our past dispute
                      On October 24, 2014, the SM-6 anti-aircraft missile successfully intercepted a low-flying supersonic air target GQM-163A Coyote, similar in flight characteristics to the Mosquito. The interception was carried out behind the radio horizon, according to external target designation, using an active radar homing head of an anti-aircraft missile. So there was first the ability to effectively combat low-flying supersonic missiles has been successfully demonstrated in practice.

                      https://ru.wikipedia.org/wiki/Москит_(противокорабельная_ракета)
                      Only now, and under the USSR, there were no interception opportunities drinks
  3. xomaNN
    xomaNN 12 September 2021 12: 52
    -8
    Well done! Frightened by the NATO ships around. Although shallow Balt. the sea is not for such huge nuclear submarines. To them - to the Atlantic!
    1. hrych
      hrych 12 September 2021 13: 03
      +7
      Quote: xomaNN
      Balt. the sea is not for such

      Barents so-and-so, smoothly into the Arctic Ocean
      1. pl675
        pl675 12 September 2021 13: 11
        -11
        Quote: hrych
        Quote: xomaNN
        Balt. the sea is not for such

        Barents so-and-so, smoothly into the Arctic Ocean


        it doesn't matter at all!
        I never cease to be amazed at the degradation - it is important to sprinkle more stones for the pluses, and then let it be at least a biscay.
      2. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 12 September 2021 13: 37
        0
        Quote: hrych
        smoothly into the Arctic Ocean

        Well, at least not in Quiet ... hi
      3. xomaNN
        xomaNN 12 September 2021 19: 16
        +1
        Colleagues, you must agree that the nuclear submarine of 24 tons of underwater displacement is not in vain assigned to the Northern Fleet. And in Soviet times, such submarines were not part of the Baltic Fleet.
        And since I was on mooring trials with the lead nuclear submarine 949A of the project and I well imagine its dimensions, I remain in my opinion.
    2. Uncle lee
      Uncle lee 12 September 2021 13: 34
      0
      Quote: xomaNN
      shallow Balt. sea

      Antey performed rocket fire at Barents sea
      Precisely, he has nothing to do in the Baltic ... hi
    3. xomaNN
      xomaNN 13 September 2021 10: 56
      0
      Only now I realized that it was so nominated wassat I glanced through the article and did not notice that there is the Barents Sea, i.e. region of the Northern Fleet. And after the parade of the Navy in the Baltic Sea, I was hooked that the nuclear submarine 949 of the project was then driven to Kronstadt. Therefore, it seemed that after settling there, they immediately decided to fire Granite tongue My Ashipka love
  4. Alien From
    Alien From 12 September 2021 13: 07
    +1
    Granite is of course power, but what about target designation, especially for maximum range?
    1. Mountain shooter
      Mountain shooter 12 September 2021 13: 16
      +13
      Quote: Alien From
      Granite is of course power, but what about target designation, especially for maximum range?

      They are launching military satellites from Plesetsk, letting them in ... Their "lifetime" has grown greatly, they can work for 7 or more years, not that before ... And there are fewer launches, and the group is more vigilant. Well, really our General Staff does not want to track the AUG? Of course he does. It just doesn't ring about it at every corner ...
      1. Romario_Argo
        Romario_Argo 14 September 2021 10: 54
        0
        I completely agree.
        Amber and Cobalts are launched over the desired area during a threatened period of up to 300 days
        and calmly issue target designation for anti-ship missiles, even without or in the appendage to Liana
    2. Ross xnumx
      Ross xnumx 12 September 2021 13: 31
      -2
      Quote: Alien From
      Granite is of course power, but what about target designation, especially at maximum range?

      Have you noticed too? The declared range is 500 km, and they fired at 100 km ... And what prevented the maximum firing?
      1. tralflot1832
        tralflot1832 12 September 2021 13: 44
        +4
        There are too many fishermen in Barentsukh, but there are too many tankers around here, you cannot clear a large area for rocket firing, probably this is the reason for such a range.
      2. Alien From
        Alien From 12 September 2021 13: 45
        +1
        Here on VO there were a lot of articles about this RC, as I understand it, even during the Soviet Union they did not shoot it at full range ...
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 12 September 2021 14: 42
          +3
          Quote: Alien From
          even during the Soviet Union they did not shoot him at full range ...

          Quote: mvg
          The maximum they were allowed to do, if not lying 360 km on a ground target, 3-4 years ago.

          My concern is caused only by the fact that, you see, it is stupid to shoot from a sniper rifle at a pistol shot range. This is both relaxing and addictive to waiting for the enemy to come within close range.
          In our case, it is reckless to fire at close range without knowing the true capabilities of the Granit, when the Zircon is approaching, where the range is up to 1500 km ... It is not necessary to hit the fishing area. You can shoot from the Barents Sea towards Severnaya Zemlya or from the Kara Sea towards the New Siberian Islands ... This will be a real test.
          hi
          1. Bez 310
            Bez 310 12 September 2021 15: 09
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            This will be the real test.

            Well, you straight ...
            Quote: mvg
            Will not or will not reach. Shoulder straps, bonuses will fly.

            Quote: voyaka uh
            At the maximum, it is necessary to organize external target designation.

            Who needs all this?
            1. Ross xnumx
              Ross xnumx 12 September 2021 15: 11
              +2
              Quote: Bez 310
              Who needs all this?

              Really. The times of Suvorov and Ushakov have sunk into oblivion ... crying
      3. mvg
        mvg 12 September 2021 14: 16
        +1
        And what prevented you from shooting to the maximum?

        Will not or will not reach. Shoulder straps, bonuses will fly. The maximum they were allowed to do, if not lying 360 km on a ground target, 3-4 years ago. 12.06.2017/XNUMX/XNUMX, Tomsk across Kamchatka was pulsed
      4. voyaka uh
        voyaka uh 12 September 2021 14: 33
        0
        Shot at a realistic distance.
        At the maximum, it is necessary to organize external target designation.
      5. OgnennyiKotik
        OgnennyiKotik 12 September 2021 15: 22
        +2
        Quote: ROSS 42
        The declared range is 500 km, and they fired at 100 km ... And what prevented the maximum firing?

        Do you know the joke about the nuance?
        500 km is along a high-altitude trajectory, absolutely safe for ships with air defense.
        100 km is 2/3 of the maximum, low-altitude trajectory. Which can really threaten ships.

        Quote: ROSS 42
        approach "Zircon", where the range is up to 1500 km.

        Such a range of fantasy.
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 September 2021 16: 27
          +4
          Quote: OgnennyiKotik
          500 km is along the high-altitude trajectory

          Range of action of Granite:
          - 700-800 km (on a high-altitude trajectory, according to the technical specifications of the military-industrial complex under the USSR CM 1966)
          - 200 km (on a low altitude trajectory, according to the technical specifications of the military-industrial complex under the USSR Council of Ministers in 1966)
          - 500 km (combined trajectory according to TTZ VPK at SM USSR 1968)
          As a rule, the estimated range is laid down in the Soviet abbreviation of the product. So P-700 (Granite) has a range of 700 km, P-1000 (Volcano) reaches 1000 km. Its predecessor P-500 (Basalt) flew 500 km. The P-270 "Mosquito" was supposed to reach a maximum of 270 km, but it almost made it. The P-800 Onyx was designed for a range of 800 km, and in the Onyx-M version, it still reached the calculated range under the Union.
      6. Avior
        Avior 12 September 2021 15: 28
        -1
        what prevented you from shooting to the maximum?
        Granite's venerable age, perhaps.
        1. hrych
          hrych 12 September 2021 17: 23
          0
          He did not develop a resource by flights. wassat The product is disposable. Either it works to its fullest or does not work at all. There is no point in letting it go at full range. Firstly, this is a test run and all modes were checked. Secondly, to close the shipping zone within a radius of 800 km, i.e. with a diameter of more than one and a half thousand, and with a margin, requires additional problems. Ukrainian air defense is especially distinguished when the GOS captures another target.
          1. Avior
            Avior 12 September 2021 18: 56
            -2
            Aging over time is also an important factor. The probability of failure always exists, it is non-zero by definition, but it increases with age.
            And someone really does not want such failures, especially before the elections, as it was rightly written here.
            1. hrych
              hrych 12 September 2021 19: 06
              0
              No time. Either it works or it doesn't work. Well, there is also a TTRD, where the fuel deteriorates over time, but here the fuel is liquid. Refuel and go. We have, without refueling Ur100UTTH, decent availability and nothing, refueled, put the Vanguard and go ahead. 100 km is clearly a low-altitude trajectory. Start from under the water, work of the booster stage, the inclusion of a ramjet engine, flight at an altimeter, at an extremely low altitude, capture and defeat of the target. The most optimal option. And displaying on a high-altitude and even a combined trajectory is a trifle. The range is added in multiples, but the development of all systems does not require this.
              1. Avior
                Avior 12 September 2021 19: 40
                +1
                Aging factor is an objective factor
                And systems that are 100 percent reliable simply do not exist, we are always talking about probability.
  5. certero
    certero 12 September 2021 13: 28
    -1
    Quote: Flood
    what is called, estimate the scale

    It is a pity that no tests have ever been conducted on how such a thing will work on a large NATO ship :)
    Although I remember at tom clancy in his red storm the aircraft carrier rises and the cruiser had enough
    1. Mar.Tirah
      Mar.Tirah 12 September 2021 15: 33
      0
      Quote: certero
      It is a pity that no tests have ever been conducted on how such a thing will work on a large NATO ship :)

      NATO ships already have enough problems from these cruisers, although they do not work on European trifles, their game is larger. Suffice it to say that the Americans always allocate very large forces and funds to search and track the "beasts", sometimes transferring entire groups of ships from one fleet to another. And often their results end in nothing. While our APKRRK successfully conduct launches, albeit electronic, training regularly. The first such click on the nose of the United States was made back in 1999, I no longer remember whether "OMSK" ohm, is it "TOMSK" ohm?
  6. Nafanya from the sofa
    Nafanya from the sofa 12 September 2021 13: 36
    +7
    Quote: xomaNN
    Well done! Frightened by the NATO ships around. Although shallow Balt. the sea is not for such huge nuclear submarines. To them - to the Atlantic!

    Zhenechka Psaki has appeared on our website! Because only she can confuse the Baltic and Barents (mentioned in the article) seas. fool
    1. faiver
      faiver 12 September 2021 18: 45
      0
      Because only she can confuse the Baltic and Barents seas (mentioned in the article)
      - Well, why only she? Don't forget the USE generation is growing up ...
      1. Nafanya from the sofa
        Nafanya from the sofa 12 September 2021 18: 53
        -1
        Don't forget the USE generation is growing up ...

        No. The generation of the Unified State Exam does not pull in any way, because they read and write with difficulty. drinks
        1. faiver
          faiver 12 September 2021 19: 08
          0
          you shouldn't deceive yourself by their late thirties ... hi
  7. V means B
    V means B 12 September 2021 18: 41
    -2
    So after all, "Granite" is alive.
  8. DenVB
    DenVB 13 September 2021 10: 22
    0
    On Saturday, naval targets in the Barents Sea were hit by the destroyer Admiral Ushakov and the Bal missile system.

    Interesting construction of the phrase.