In order to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, Russia handed over a batch of military equipment to Tajikistan

After the withdrawal of the US Armed Forces from Afghan territory, the situation in Central Asia became more unstable. Therefore, in order to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, Russia transferred a consignment of military equipment to Tajikistan.

This was reported by the press service of the RF Ministry of Defense.

The Russian military department handed over to the Tajik side 12 modernized armored reconnaissance and patrol vehicles BRDM-2M. In addition, the Armed Forces of this Central Asian state received spare parts for armored vehicles, melee weapons, small arms weapon, as well as means of radiation, chemical and biological protection (RHBZ).

This delivery was made free of charge in accordance with the agreements between the presidents of Russia and Tajikistan. The broadcast itself was carried out in Dushanbe and took place in a solemn atmosphere. At the ceremony, the Russian Federation was represented by the deputy commander of the Central Military District, Major General Yevgeny Tsindyaykin, from the Tajik side was Major General Khisrav Bobozoda, who holds the post of Deputy Defense Minister of this state.

This is a reliable and proven technique that will increase the combat potential of the Armed Forces of the Republic of Tajikistan and will become another weighty argument in ensuring the country's defense.

- said Tsindyaykin at the ceremony.

The situation on the southern borders of the Republic of Tajikistan cannot but cause concern due to the fact that this entire lengthy section is controlled by the Taliban * terrorist group banned in Russia. And although the Taliban * themselves claim that they are not going to enter other states, this does not change the fears about the fate of Central Asia.

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[Blue fox]

in order to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, Russia handed over a consignment of military equipment to Tajikistan.

It would be nice to transfer the Tajiks themselves from Russia to Tajikistan. To strengthen the border, of course.

[alex neym_2]

It may be so, but God protects the one who is careful! Give a weakness, and "friends" are right there: the borders of the State SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM A FAR, AND DO NOT WAIT WHEN HE CLEARS INTO YOUR HOUSE ... then maybe it will be too late ...

[antiaircrafter]

Quote: aleks neym_2

State borders SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM A FAR

But you shouldn't forget about the near approaches either.

[alex neym_2]

Solidarity! The exercises in the BR have already caused profuse urination in many of the "coolest" Gay European ... who gathered in tanks to ride along Red Square!

[faiver]

the ministers clearly told you from the TV - "the economy will collapse", "Moscow will rise", and so on

[rocket757]

The problem, as always, is one ... where to get the money? For the maintenance of the troops.

[Old tanker]

The problem, as always, is one ... where to get the money? For the maintenance of the troops.

Spend less on fun games and equate the salaries of managers of state corporations at least to the position of division commander.

[rocket757]

You can dream, but .... I, too, sometimes get carried away, but I remember what is written in the textbooks and ... I go down to the sinful earth.
Power from us, and from everyone around us, has been seized by the RICHES, and they, the power, will defend their intereses in the first place.

[carstorm 11]

Exactly. Do not care that they will have a market one 7 times more and no one normal will stay there.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

There are about 297 thousand dollar millionaires in the Russian Federation. More millionaires and beggars are needed. The more millionaires and the higher the stratification of income in society, the more stable the country is. So Pobedim!

[carstorm 11]

Whom will you defeat? There are market rates for the salary. Bonuses, payments of motivational programs. Let's say I have three or four new proposals in a year. If I am offered to receive 5-7 times less, how do you think I will accept it? Or vice versa, if I know that I can get more, I will stay at my previous job?) There are no fools in this topic for a long time. Everyone knows the value of their work. And their capabilities. And the bundle ... It all depends on you. And only from you. Someone works with his head and atoms with his hands. Now is not the nineties. To become a millionaire you need a head and hellish work.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

Whom will you defeat?

This is a question you must ask yourself. And then you have written everyone here, but you absolutely do not want to think about what I said. And it’s true. What for? It's more convenient for you, your brains are not strained at all.

Quote: carstorm 11

Everyone knows the value of their work. And their capabilities.

Actually, no. Otherwise, they would have given the ass to effective managers long ago.

Quote: carstorm 11

And the bundle ... It all depends on you.

Here you are right. To kick effective managers in the ass is entirely up to the people who work for them.

Quote: carstorm 11

Someone works with his head and atoms with his hands. Now is not the nineties. To become a millionaire you need a head and hellish work.

This is all idle chatter. Because if you look at the conditions in which hired workers work, the further the more for a pittance, then all these stories about the hellish labor of domestic Atlanteans of capital become ridiculous. By the way, no one keeps you in effective managers. I do not like wali to plow to the machine. There you will be relaxed according to your version with a gorgeous salary. Don't give thanks for the advice. I was glad to help.

[carstorm 11]

Your trouble and others like you is that you will be kicked, taken away, taken away. Therefore, nothing changes. When it comes to chatting, you simply have no experience of working in modern companies. For example in it. Or, for example, in mine where all employees, in addition to decent salaries, bonuses and bonuses, are paid for everything from going to fitness to insurance for children. Where every year the owner takes everyone with their families to Spain for New Year's. Glvpo blame their failures in life on everyone except themselves. Your retrograde world cannot even admit that everything around is different. That millions of people buy apartments and cars every year. Develop and move forward. We are who we want to consider ourselves.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

Your trouble and others like you is that you will be kicked, taken away, taken away.

The whole trouble with the rotten intelligentsia is that, having achieved something in life, they often completely lose touch with reality. Therefore, these your ideas about those like me have nothing to do with reality.

Quote: carstorm 11

For example in it.

For example, I have such experience. And many others too.

Quote: carstorm 11

Or, for example, in mine where all employees, in addition to decent salaries, bonuses and bonuses, are paid for everything from going to fitness to insurance for children. Where every year the owner takes everyone with their families to Spain for New Year's.

It is characteristic that you mentioned IT. And somehow we drove around everything else. However, if you look in it, you can also see a lot of beautiful things there. For, contrary to the ideas of the layman, there are also many, many vacancies where people work practically for food.

Quote: carstorm 11

Glvpo blame their failures in life on everyone except themselves.

The main thing is to believe that you are a good fellow, and everyone else around with their hands in the wrong place and not smart enough even at the moment when you will be thrown out of work because excuse us optimization, the purchasing power of a not so smart and beautiful population has fallen and you are so smart and beautiful is no longer needed.

[carstorm 11]

Yesterday I was new at the opening of the house. There odnushka 6,5 lamas for finishing costs. All 160 apartments have been sold. I watched who was checking in. From 24 to 45 everything. With kids. Employees of all kinds of companies. There was even one police captain. And such houses every year across the country ... Apparently these are aliens ... And then you read that there is no one to buy ... And as for the hands and mind. My brother from the RBU operator to the general in my 16 years came. After being fired from the army from a sales agent to the head of the Far East for 10 years. We took out loans for studies. We worked seven days a week and how it turned out. Maybe it's all the same in people? And in their aspirations? My ex-wife and I studied at night. I ran away from work in the morning to let her sleep and sit with my daughter. We survived somehow. And somehow I hardly believe that others are not capable of this.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

All 160 apartments have been sold.

So what? Have you tried to look deeper? There, after all, a bunch of questions can be asked about these people and apartments. Nobody says that the guard we will all die soon. You just need to look a little deeper and then the abyss will open before your eyes. I can tell you a lot about the standing salaries of a huge mass of the population, about cheap mortgages to support the falling pants of the construction industry, about the deterioration of working conditions, about self-employment and inaction of trade unions. Try to take a closer look around you and read the statistics. Life does not consist of one circle of your acquaintances, friends and relatives.

[carstorm 11]

I said somewhere that everything is chocolate? Or denied the existence of various difficulties? I tell you that everything around you is generally bad, and I tell you that those who strive for something are going through any difficulties. And that there is just darkness around. But you refuse to see them. Your gaze rushed only in search of any negativity.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

After my dismissal from the army from a sales agent to the head of the Far East for 10 years. We took out loans for studies. We worked seven days a week and how it turned out. Maybe it's all the same in people? And in their aspirations? My ex-wife and I studied at night. I ran away from work in the morning to let her sleep and sit with my daughter. We survived somehow.

You're in luck. And someone also tried, but he became the chief assistant of the junior manager. And not always because there was not enough talent. Because this is the structure of the economy. Now what? Don't give a damn about this person, don't raise his salary? Remove all social guarantees? And then people like you will talk about the fact that the revolution was staged by the Anglo-Saxons. Yes, you yourself are building a foundation for it with both hands.

[carstorm 11]

Lucky?))) The normal definition of life for years without vacation, studying with a baby at night and working seven days a week))) If you noticed that I divorced my first wife. Our communication was to kiss her asleep in the morning leaving for work and hug when you came home and you are cut down in the fall. Shine)

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

Lucky?)))

This is exactly what it is. Or do you think everyone who has been plowing like a damn for years will have great success? There are no miracles. If the economy needs 10 managers in some industry, then at least work hard, but only 10 of them and there will be the rest, nothing will change.

Quote: carstorm 11

Shine)

I don't see anything good in this. But you have achieved something. And people are forced to work like this until their death. Do you really think this is correct? Is this what you want in life, to work hard so that all the people around you figure it out 16 hours a day, 7 days a week for a pittance?

[carstorm 11]

No luck here. This is work. Just a job. Many. And yes. I think there should be a fight. Or motivation disappears and a big top begins. It's like a sport. You can drive the puck at home or from the age of 5 you figure it out like a damn and move it for millions of dollars.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

No luck here. This is work. Just a job. Many. And yes. I think there should be a fight. Or motivation disappears and a big top begins.

Try to take a more objective look at what I am writing about. Well, or continue to believe that everything is correct, revolutions are arranged by all kinds of enemies, and objectively formed socio-economic circumstances have nothing to do with it. In principle, nothing depends on this. Sooner or later, communism will win.

[carstorm 11]

Yeah. In Singapore, for example, is already winning. True digital. Stores without sellers or people at all. Cafe without coffee drinks and bartenders. You only need a phone and a finger) and the manipulators will supply you with everything. The number of such smart stores is growing faster than the virus. Specialties of workers and peasants disappear every year in dozens) but you continue to believe in this idea) there is no one else to fight only for it)

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Weird. Somehow it always happens that I am a communist, a naive utopian, as adherents of correct capitalism like to tell, I turn out to be a much greater realist and skeptic in many issues than all such harsh business Atlanteans of effective business. So that's what I wanted to say. Communism from the mere fact that the capitalist system does not correspond to the surrounding realities will not come in any way. Although here you give just a perfect example of why it will come. Namely, the productive forces outgrow production relations. Economics is not enough, for communism to come, a struggle is necessary, an increase in contradictions, it is necessary for the consciousness of a critical group of people to change. There was a realization of the impossibility of continuing to live like this. Actually, the very revolutionary situation that Lenin wrote about should arise.

Quote: carstorm 11

Specialties workers and peasants disappear every year in dozens) but you continue to believe in this idea) there is no one else to fight only for it)

Salaried workers are not going anywhere. As well as competition and the desire to save on people in order to win the competition while capitalism is alive, will not go anywhere. This means that class contradictions will not go anywhere. And to believe that smart stores eliminate them, this is terry idealism. And in fact, very many capitalists understand this. This is why these unconditional basic income initiatives are emerging. But our effective ones have at least a count on their heads. They believe that a happy future can be built on constant overexploitation. But in fact, all this leads to disastrous consequences. Problems with demography, poverty of the bulk of the population, the growth of negative sentiments in society. And other imbalances in the economy. So a person would like to buy new clothes, household appliances, food, but there is no money, they are in the hands of effective ones who offer him essentially his own money on credit. And nafig him a loan if he has not paid others yet. I know perfectly well that I’ll hear from you about the need to work harder. It might be such an argument, and it would have worked if it was a question of one and a half diggers, but there are millions of these diggers and not those who drink and mess around about these and there is nothing to say there is no solvency at all, namely those who work normally.

[carstorm 11]

I have not studied the telria of communism) Accordingly, in such disputes I am past. And I'm an employee. And somehow these ideas are even close, too. Sorry. Tough pragmatism. The system lived in our country and I'm sorry died burying a huge country and millions of people. Maybe there will be enough experiments on people and you need to look for something new?

[Dali]

Quote: carstorm 11

Maybe there will be enough experiments on people and you need to look for something new?

Those. do you mind experimenting too ?!

[carstorm 11]

I said to seek and not to implement. Evolutionary changes. Finding better ways.

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: carstorm 11

And I'm an employee. And somehow these ideas are even close, too.

No wonder. You will not need it exactly until you are interested in it.

Quote: carstorm 11

The system lived in our country and I'm sorry died burying a huge country and millions of people.

Capitalism has buried most of the people in our country. And bury many more.

Quote: carstorm 11

Maybe there will be enough experiments on people and you need to look for something new?

And what is happening now, what is it called? These are not experiments? We are constantly experimenting with science, industry, education, medicine, and the results, let's face it, are pretty bad. If initially there were some improvements in the same medicine, now, as a result of all these optimizations, medicine is turning into shit. Let's call a spade a spade. You say look for something new. And what? Do you even understand that Marxism did not arise from scratch? The fact that humanity should make the transition to communism is not a whim and not an invention of Marx. This is a really brilliant prediction of what the future should be on a scientific basis. Based on the study of human history, based on the study of economics. Yes, you yourself can see how the world is changing. Now all this is happening faster and what is interesting is quite agreeing with Marxism. Just don’t tell me that I’m a sectarian. I am already tired of listening to this nonsense and explaining every time that it was only because I became a Marxist that I reached some of the things that Marx says with my own mind. And what can the supporters of correct capitalism offer us? What is the image of a brighter future there? Hundreds of millions of bums on benefits. This is despite the fact that you are here telling me about take away and divide and that there is no way without competition. Does nothing bother you in such a bright future? Honestly, tell me, surely nothing bothers you? No questions popping up?

[Drago]

Dima: Come down to earth.

[carstorm 11]

Let us each by ourselves evaluate the world around us?) I do not force you to believe in my convictions. Are you bad? I'm sorry. But these are just your troubles.

[victor50]

Quote: carstorm 11

I'm sorry. But these are just your troubles.

Do not be afraid that they, suddenly! will become yours?

[victor50]

Quote: carstorm 11

Lucky?))) The normal definition of life for years without vacation, studying with a baby at night and working seven days a week))) If you noticed that I divorced my first wife. Our communication was to kiss her asleep in the morning leaving for work and hug when you came home and you are cut down in the fall. Shine)

I don’t understand: to regret? or start fees for the construction of the monument ?! It seems that prizes and awards are not enough. Bragged ...

[carstorm 11]

Someone asked to be sorry?) This is just a description of a segment of life) He left the army, and went on a new path. What to brag about?) Divorce or sleepless nights?) You somehow understand it in your own way)

[Essex62]

Nonsense. To become this, you must have a complete lack of conscience, hate people and love only yourself. Is it hellish labor for a backward man who is getting rich in other people's labor? Fairy tales for schoolchildren who have not yet encountered reality. Here on the forum people have decided for a long time. Who are you writing this bullshit for?

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: Essex62

Is it hellish labor for a backward man who is getting rich in other people's labor?

There is no need for illusions, many in small and medium-sized businesses plow this way. Another thing is that those who plow on them a priori have worse working conditions and from the results of their labor they get very little. Whereas the capitalist takes most of the results of their labor. The capitalist is also periodically hit hard on the head by capitalism. Because competition and the strongest survive. What a howl there was on the Internet when in 2020 our domestic Atlanteans of small and medium-sized businesses pressed on. And many were thrown by the invisible hand of the market into hired workers in spite of all the smug show off. And how they laughed at the communists with their criticism of capitalism. But now 7 years have passed obese and they are not at all funny.

[carstorm 11]

Yes Yes. Want some advice? Various conferences of young businessmen are held in Moscow every year. Startups and more. Look at least once. Look at how people got rich in the last 10 years. Let's say up to 30. Then you will understand what nonsense you write

[Essex62]

They didn’t work, it’s not work. Your entire market economy, with its speculations, is a disgusting twist that makes it possible to live only for a handful of the most arrogant and shameless at the expense of the rest.

[carstorm 11]

Exactly. It's not a job to create software. Without which nothing will work. UAVs are a bunch of different ideas promoting. Open restaurants, cafes. Delivery services and supply chains. This is not a job. Work is to hammer nails with a hammer. So?)))

[Essex62]

It’s work to create, but to speculate in this, in order to acquire a margin, is not. Work is always held in high esteem, anyone. At least with your head, at least with your hands. You do not want to understand and cannot understand that in a just society, with a planned economy, a ban on speculative games, in the financial market and the absence of profit as the ultimate goal, this should not be the case in principle. After all, it turns out that while playing "roulette," stock speculators impose their rules on everyone who creates a product. It doesn't matter if it is intellectual or physical. They arrange crises in which they get even more rich. Actually, this was the goal of the flower garden in the USSR, when it was successful, for them, their agent got on the Kremlin stool. As a result, a bunch of sly-ass and arrogant now sets the rules of the game for everyone. Obsalyutno not acceptable, because they are not fair, in contrast to the USSR.
The state can create UAVs and open cafes on its own, which has been proven by Soviet history.

[carstorm 11]

Speaking of speculation ... this is, for example, what I found, studied, organized delivery, opened shops so that goods could be delivered to you from another continent and you consumed them?) I will not enter into political disputes. I'm only talking about specific things.

[Dali]

Quote: carstorm 11

Speculating say ... this is, for example, what I found, studied, organized delivery, opened shops so that goods could be delivered to you from another continent and you consumed them?)

So it is ... the huckster he is the huckster ...

I wonder why you don't write: "For example, what is it that I have found, studied, organized the production and sale of goods so that you (of higher quality and cheaper, respectively) consume them?)" - or weak?!

[carstorm 11]

I cannot produce Scotch whiskey. Or French cognac. Many have already tried. It turns out urine.

[Essex62]

Can you read? All this was done by the state. Centralized supply of TVP.
No politics, just in a fair society of equals, a niche like Bentley or Falcon can be used by anyone or no one. But then the policy begins, so that it would be so, at the first stage to achieve this, the dictatorship of the proletariat is needed.

[carstorm 11]

You're not talking nonsense, okay? Well, it's funny. The state bought only what he needed and not the people. The state in the USSR could not even cure cancer. The mortality rate from lemphoma, in my opinion, was under 70 percent and in the world less than 5. For 11 years, we brought the assortment into the country more than 100 times than the entire Union produced for 70 years. We have a price list for a thousand items. From all over the world. But you can drink any slop that the state will of course sell you. Your business.

[strannik1985]

Don't talk nonsense

You are now confusing Hegel with Babel. What prevented the import of medicines 30 years ago?

[carstorm 11]

Well, the state should be asked why. A man writes to me about centralized supply.

[Essex62]

The state is people. And in your opinion this is what / who?
All products were of excellent quality. And you have to live modestly, and this is not the point of joining the lovers of margin. Obesity from excesses.
And what does cancer have to do with it? He cannot be treated anywhere in the world. Soviet free medicine worked great. There was a lag in some areas, but this is not an indicator of the system's depravity, but quite objective circumstances, including the human factor. So we need to work on it.
Capitalism is an obscene evil.

[victor50]

Quote: carstorm 11

Then you will understand what nonsense you are writing

I'm wondering where with such illiteracy specialists are needed? Yes, even for a high salary with buns? Maybe that's why the majority are dissatisfied with the current situation? Are they paid the wrong people and hired accordingly? Is that why rockets fall, etc.?

[carstorm 11]

Apparently you didn't talk to me much) I write from the phone on the go almost always) I ignore punctuation marks so that I am too lazy to switch. Mistakes are often made more in a hurry. And I just refuse to correct and re-read) Time is a pity) Sdrlal and did)))

[BARKAS]

It would be nice to transfer the Tajiks themselves from Russia to Tajikistan. To strengthen the border, of course.

Free option as a set for BRDM.

[Cat Alexandrovich]

"It would be nice to transfer the Tajiks themselves from Russia to Tajikistan."
And also necessarily free of charge!

[Flooding]

Quote: Blue Fox

It would be nice to transfer the Tajiks themselves from Russia to Tajikistan. To strengthen the border, of course.

In February, the Tajik authorities decided that instead of compulsory military service, conscripts could pay the state a monetary compensation.
At that time, they wrote about the amount of about $ 650.
But the future state. At the same time, officials must serve an urgent term.

[Hypertension]

Well, that's why the United States, to strengthen against the "aggressor", arms its "allies" sell (Poland tanks for $ 6 billion), and Russia donates? And then American vassals foaming at the mouth confess their eternal love to America, and the Russian Federation, the so-called "partners" and "friends" are called an occupier? What the hell is wrong in this world ...

[demiurg]

Have you been banned in Google?
Look at how much the United States has transferred weapons over the past twenty years. Yes, old, but worn out, but not everyone is such a whim. But for nothing.

[Hypertension]

Quote: demiurg

Yes, old, yes, worn out,

While RF:

The Russian military department handed over to the Tajik side 12 modernized armored reconnaissance and patrol vehicles BRDM-2M.

[demiurg]

The United States is fighting drug cartels instead of the Mexican and Colombian armed forces. The special forces of these countries are armed with the latest nishtyaks. And this does not surprise anyone.

[Hypertension]

Quote: demiurg

The special forces of these countries are armed with the latest nishtyaks.

Officially, weapons are supplied from the States (can we interpret as "donated"?) Weapons to the Mexican special forces, and unofficially, weapons from the USA are supplied to drug cartels. Show must go on ... America, in principle, has more from its allies than it spends on them, and Russia has a generous soul ...
The United States supplied weapons to the Mexican drug mafia.
https://www.kommersant.ru/doc/1808523

[Piramidon]

Quote: Hyperion

Well, that's why the United States sells weapons to its "allies" to strengthen against the "aggressor" (Poland tanks for $ 6 billion), and Russia donates?

We need to secure our country. Compare how far Tajikistan is from Russia with the Taliban at hand and how close Poland is to the United States without any Taliban in the vicinity.

[Hypertension]

Quote: Piramidon

We need to secure our country.

So the Americans seem to need to protect themselves from Russia.

Quote: Piramidon

Compare how far Tajikistan is from Russia

Yes, if it was only about Tajikistan ... Did Russia only give it something / write off its debts?

[lucul]

Well, that's why the United States sells weapons to its "allies" to strengthen against the "aggressor" (Poland tanks for $ 6 billion), and Russia donates? And then American vassals foaming at the mouth confess their eternal love to America, and the Russian Federation, the so-called "partners" and "friends" are called an occupier? What the hell is wrong in this world ...

Well, what's not clear here? ))))
Some women give it just like that, they themselves still run, and some only for money.
It's all about the image))) Russia is in trouble with the image, since it has been demonized for a very long time.

[ximkim]

Politics.
It all depends on the president
He then shows that he is more worried and interested.

[smart ass]

I'm afraid then Moscow will drown in garbage and will be left without sidewalks

[I am not a robot]

who will sweep the streets then

[antiaircrafter]

In order to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, Russia handed over a batch of military equipment to Tajikistan

They will break it or lose it.

[tech3030]

Alternatively, the Taliban will find themselves when they abandon them when they retreat.

[Grits]

Quote: tech3030

Alternatively, the Taliban will have it when they abandon it when they retreat.

There is a tendency that those irregulars and armies that were trained by the Americans according to their own standards and according to their programs cannot fight. The most convincing example is the Georgians and the Afghan army.
There is still a Soviet training school in Tajikistan. Which inspires some optimism. The main thing is that the Tajik army should not be corrupted from within by radical Islamic ideas.

[tech3030]

I will be glad to be wrong on this question!

[Cat Alexandrovich]

Yeshakov would be bought in neighboring countries and transferred. These will not be lost or broken. Except that....

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: antiaircrafter

They will break it or lose it.

They will be handed over to the Taliban (an organization banned in the Russian Federation so far, but with the optional possibility of negotiations with the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation) in case they climb into Tajikistan.

[ximkim]

Begins ..

[Split]

Thief .... thief nevert changes (c) Fallout

[ximkim]

Is changing.
They just run a lot, fuss, do shoals.

[nobody75]

The legate Belisarius mentioned in the article handed over a batch of KPVT to the Tajik volunteers for installation on Toyota. Is Belisarius reading VO? Otherwise, why would he suddenly decide to play "Toyota war"? I think that soon the Tajik "tourists" will go across the river ... Rakhmonov has no way out. He has a country-forming business - re-export of Afghan "substances" according to the scheme from the series "Brigade". And now he was a strategic supplier ...
Sincerely

[IS-80_RVGK2]

Quote: nobody75

The legate Belisarius mentioned in the article handed over a batch of KPVT to the Tajik volunteers for installation on Toyota. Is Belisarius reading VO? Otherwise, why would he suddenly decide to play "Toyota war"? I think that soon Tajik "tourists" will go across the river ...

I am certainly not an expert on sloping Central Asian feudal democracies. But. Out of the corner of my eye I heard that. Why the hell would they go somewhere out there, when, with our help, they could fight off sudden spooks if they themselves climb up with a friendly visit?

[nobody75]

Rakhmonov's whole country is tied to the sale of "substances" ... And the Taliban will not trade with him. Our Gebulniks ran in and started kicking Belisarius. He decided that the best defense was attack. Better to fight the Taliban near Jalalabad than near Ashgabat (where, by the way, no one will fight them).
Sincerely

[IS-80_RVGK2]

It is not clear what will happen to the substances and the organization that is semi-banned in the Russian Federation. And I strongly doubt the capabilities of the padishah-generalissimo Rahmon. So, in my opinion, it is most likely that either the Taliban near Ashgabat or our detachments behind the trenches with the wild brothers Aryans, and it is impossible to retreat behind Moscow. And about the dashing cavalry raids of potential Moscow guest workers on Jalalabad, this is already some kind of unscientific fantasy, because what the hell is needed.

[Lara Croft]

Probably it is necessary to strengthen the PW of Tajikistan and, first of all, the UAVs ... and the means of dealing with them ...

[alavrin]

The word "strengthen" implies a foundation ...

[Uncle lee]

Quote: alavrin

"strengthen"

The Americans left the Taliban a lot more equipment and weapons! Here you need to think about why this is done!

[Pandiurin]

Quote: Uncle Lee

Quote: alavrin

"strengthen"

The Americans left the Taliban a lot more equipment and weapons! Here you need to think about why this is done!

The most important thing is that the United States could not do otherwise.
They could not physically take out the equipment, there is no land corridor, the personnel could not be evacuated by air on time. Destroying this too time and would create even greater panic among the pro-American forces, everything would fall down there in a couple of days. The United States adhered to the legend and instilled in the pro-government forces that they would hold out for another half a year; within the framework of this legend, it was impossible to burn and detonate weapons.

The Taliban are not a proxy for the United States.
The United States will by all means oppose the Taliban, since
they are the basis of the new central government in Afghanistan, on the basis of this central government huge long-term projects of China, Iran, Pakistan, Turkmenistan, Kyrgyzstan, Uzbekistan, Russia in Afghanistan will be implemented.
The cost of these projects is more than one hundred billion.

It is incredible stupidity to deliberately reinforce the Taliban with weapons from the United States.

Sometimes a captured weapon from an enemy is not a gift, but simply a captured trophy.

[faiver]

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

[Lara Croft]

Quote: faiver

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

Well, this is not the first and not the last delivery of the Russian Federation to Tajikistan of V and VT, in recent years ...

[The leader of the Redskins]

As for me, it would be better if they transferred the hulls of tanks that were outdated, without engines. What to bury along the border. And in places where they could not shoot back in the direction of Tajikistan (Russia). And instead of engines, increase the ammunition load. More sense would be than from the "glove compartments".

[Old tanker]

As for me, it would be better if they transferred the hulls of tanks that were outdated, without engines. What to bury along the border

In modern conditions, a non-maneuvering target is very easily hit.

[Grits]

Quote: Leader of the Redskins

As for me, it would be better if they transferred the hulls of tanks that were outdated, without engines. What to bury along the border. And in places where they could not shoot back in the direction of Tajikistan (Russia). And instead of engines, increase the ammunition load. More sense would be than from the "glove compartments".

And bury it along the Pyanj at every kilometer and at every turn. As well as turret installations with other types of weapons from guns to machine guns.

[nobody75]

I will bypass the Taliban in Tajikistan ... They will not attack head-on.
Sincerely

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Crews need to eat something and carry out patrols. So after every kilometer it will not work out in any way, strong points are needed every 5-10 kilometers, but no more than 15, in order to provide cover with howitzer artillery from a neighboring strong point. There should be at least three tanks and cover for a motorized rifle platoon with several armored personnel carriers or infantry fighting vehicles, plus a mortar battery.

[antiaircrafter]

What, give them Armat? Let the cats train for now. It doesn't matter whether they break or lose.

[faiver]

the question is not what to give, but does it make sense? and then later from the same brdm-s they will walk through ours ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: faiver

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

12 KPVT in mountain conditions is a serious argument. And the cars are hardy, and they don't break through from a rifle ...

[faiver]

from a rifle do not break through ...

- oh?

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: faiver

- oh?

BRDM-2 from 100 m do not break through. 7.62x54R.

[faiver]

open the nomenclature of the cartridges you specified

[Flooding]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

BRDM-2 from 100 m do not break through. 7.62x54R

at the BRDM-2M, in addition, the armor is reinforced in places

[faiver]

and in some places it is not reinforced and is 5-7mm, except for the forehead

[Flooding]

Quote: faiver

and in places not reinforced

doesn't that follow from my words?

Quote: faiver

is 5-7mm

if an ordinary bullet does not take, then it's already good

there is another upgrade option - BRDM-2MB
but it will obviously be more expensive

[faiver]

Yes, I have no complaints about the mess, the question is whether we are strengthening those who later turn this weapon against us ...

[Flooding]

Quote: faiver

Yes, I have no complaints about the mess, the question is whether we are strengthening those who later turn this weapon against us ...

guessing is a thankless task
do what you must and be what will
there are no other options
Tajikistan itself does not pull the army

[I am not a robot]

you still need to get to these places, and at the same time somehow dodge the fire of the KPVT

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Just in time for the KPVT, or rather the tower with it, most of the questions. The modernization of weapons seems to have boiled down to replacing the turret from the BTR-60 with the turret from the BTR-80. No electric drives, no stabilizer, not to mention a 23-mm cannon to replace, albeit a good one, a machine gun. Even on the BTR-80, its turret was a frankly weak and outdated solution. If not a stabilizer, then at least electric drives could be installed. Moreover, the creators of the BTR-80 had a sample of the tower from the BMP before their eyes, ready-made solutions can be borrowed from there.

[nobody75]

not to mention the 23mm replacement cannon

KPVT has a more powerful cartridge ... It's practically a cannon.
Sincerely

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

We open the data of the 23x152 unitary projectile and see there a bullet energy of 90kJ.
At the same time, the cartridge for KPVT 14,5 × 114 mm has a bullet energy of 32kJ.
In addition, the cannon also has high-explosive fragmentation ammunition, in contrast to the machine gun. The Azerbaijani version of the modernization of the BRDM-2 precisely provides for the installation of a 23-mm cannon.
However, I find it more important to install the electric drive. Even if the installation of a suspension basket for the shooter to the tower turns out to be impossible, a synchronously rotating chair can be made. Then, upon detection of flashes of shots using the optical-electronic observation module, it will be possible to immediately aim a gun or machine gun at the target.

[g1v2]

We still need to get rid of the mess gradually. So why not hand over to the allies? Is it necessary to cut something?

[faiver]

the east is a delicate matter, and the "allies" of them are still the same ....

[g1v2]

Everyone always acts on the basis of their own benefit. All post-Soviet elites are afraid of being pulled back to us. But economic ties and the fact that only we can solve their security problems make part of the post-Soviet elites still focus on us. The coming to power of the Taliban greatly frightens the Central Asian elites and pushes them under our wing. We must use this and strengthen our positions. The same fit of old mess is cheap and noticeable for us. Bai must understand that only we can help, protect and arm them.

[faiver]

well, I don’t believe them

[Grits]

Quote: g1v2

We still need to get rid of the mess gradually. So why not hand over to the allies? Is it necessary to cut something?

I also noticed that lately we are starting to transfer these machines to everyone.

[Ros 56]

It's not about the BRDMs, but about those who are sitting there. Striped 20 years of the Afghan army and the result ......... ?????

[Grits]

Quote: faiver

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

... we have this shoe polish ... here's a helmet, just anyone.

[OgnennyiKotik]

If anyone needs it, BRDM are quietly sold. For the price of a three-ruble note in Moscow, you can create an army comparable to that of Tajikistan.

[faiver]

Housing prices in Moscow have fallen so much?

[Pavel57]

The modernization of the BRDM is put on stream.

[Old tanker]

And what kind of observation device is there at the stern of the tower?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Somewhere in the descriptions it was found that this is an optical-electronic reconnaissance module.

[75 Sergey]

Again Russia handed over, donated to Tajikistan .... when will it stop? It's easy to be generous at someone else's expense!
Meanwhile, the rights of Russians in this country are still infringed upon, and we are giving them gifts.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: 75Sergey

Again Russia handed over, donated to Tajikistan .... when will it stop?

Never. The Russian Federation has been strengthening the Armed Forces of Tajikistan for five years already, during this time air defense (object and military), RTV, Air Force have appeared ...
With the collapse of the Union, Tajikistan was most unlucky with the nationalization of units and subdivisions of the former SA, almost all formations and units on its territory came under the jurisdiction of the Russian Federation, what remained for the most part burned down in the conflicts of the civil war in the 90s ...
Unlike self-sufficient Kazakhstan, the Republic of Tatarstan and the Republic of Kazakhstan will always be strengthened by V and VT from the Russian Federation, primarily with BHBT ... that have undergone modernization, due to these supplies, the military budget of the Republic of Tatarstan can be concentrated on improving the military infrastructure of Tajikistan itself and purchasing ammunition and military property incl. for reservists ....

[75 Sergey]

Is that why we always stand up for beggars with some kind of tarnished reputation? If you really help, then overthrow these buys and put your people! And then they hold us for the weak-minded, like they kick with their feet, and they also give weapons free of charge - fools.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: 75Sergey

Is that why we always stand up for beggars with some kind of tarnished reputation?

We do not intercede for the poor, but we do not give the opportunity to seize their land by the enemies, tk. enemies can subsequently develop an offensive against the Russian Federation from their territory ...

overthrow these buys and put their people!

This is a question for the Ministry of Foreign Affairs of the Russian Federation and our intelligence, apparently we did not find our people either for Georgia, or for Moldova, or for Armenia, but the one who was found in horror fled to Rostov ...
Apparently the Party and the Government have enough work for our Foreign Ministry ... Kyrgyzstan and Kazakhstan will be the next to reorient ... Tajiks do not belong to the Turkic-speaking peoples, so there is a hope that they will remain in the orbit of our foreign policy in Central Asia ...

[75 Sergey]

These "friends" are up to the first nix, you don't need any enemies with them.

[Piramidon]

Quote: 75Sergey

Again Russia handed over, donated to Tajikistan .... when will it stop? It's easy to be generous at someone else's expense!
Meanwhile, the rights of Russians in this country are still infringed upon, and we are giving them gifts.

Tajikistan is a buffer between Russia and the ever-seething Afghanistan. Like it or not, you need to invest there for your own safety.

[75 Sergey]

A transit country for drugs, a bad buffer from it.

[Stas1973]

Doesn't this look like anything?

[Murmur 55]

The main thing is that the V.S. of Tajikistan had a desire to fight for their land, otherwise the Afghan army could not.

[Grits]

Quote: Murmur 55

The main thing is that the V.S. of Tajikistan had a desire to fight for their land, otherwise the Afghan army could not.

There is some difference. For many Afghans, the Taliban were like liberators of their native land from foreign invaders and their hangers-on. Even for many of those who were in the Afghan army. But for Tajiks, the arrival of the Taliban will be like an attack on their home country, which needs to be protected from the occupier. There is another motivation here. The main danger here lies in religious preferences - if many Tajiks consider the Taliban their fellow-believers, liberators from the secular regime, then no army of their own will help.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

Why do the modernized BRDMs look so wretched, as if a drunken car mechanic was installing additional armor sheets ?!

Was it really impossible to make everything look neat and beautiful in the end ?!

I have no words.

[75 Sergey]

What difference does it make - for free!

[lucul]

Was it really impossible to make everything look neat and beautiful in the end ?!

I have no words.

Well, the technique is not for sale, but for the war))))
Functionality comes first, not design.
Although, as for me, the BRDM-2 remained in the 70s. She was not brought to mind.

[Piramidon]

Quote: Ratmir_Ryazan

Was it really impossible to make everything look neat and beautiful in the end ?!

To stick around with chrome and plastic, put spoilers, kenguryatniks, "chandeliers". And paint it in a glamorous lilac color.

[Ratmir_Ryazan]

No, just mount the additional armor exactly, along the contour of the BRDM.

Is it too difficult ?!

It seems that the additional armor was cut for a completely different machine, and they attached it to the BRDM according to the principle of where it fits there and weld it on.

[75 Sergey]

The weight will float, we need to redo the chassis and transmission, but we need it, it is still unknown in which direction the machine guns of these BRDMs will be directed

[Igor Gul]

And why was it necessary to transfer "means of radiation, chemical and biological protection (RHBZ)", the Taliban have such a weapon?

[nobody75]

These are "bumblebees" - they were originally created for rhbshniks ....
Sincerely

[Vavilov]

maybe they are fortifying Masud, there is a border along the river, you will not block it everywhere

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: faiver

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

12 KPVT in mountain conditions is a serious argument. And the cars are hardy, and they don't break through from a rifle ...

Those BRDM that were 30-40 years ago in service with the SA, armor-piercing acc. caliber break through easily.

[I am not a robot]

from what distances, and is it easy to approach this distance under the fire of KPVT

[Evil 55]

It's a mess, it's a mess in Tajiks too .. Although the diesel was installed and that's a plus ..

[demiurg]

For those who think that the BRDM sucks, I recommend taking the AKM and fighting with this machine.
31 megajoule of 14.5mm banana will unpack your confidence along with your body and what you thought was a shelter.

[lucul]

For those who think that the BRDM sucks,

The machine is simply outdated. Nobody rethought its concept.
In addition, our same Orion (UAV) will see further and instantly transmit the data, and even give out target designation.

[alexmach]

Well, do not give them the Orions, which they themselves lack in fact.

[Doliva63]

Quote: lucul

For those who think that the BRDM sucks,

The machine is simply outdated. Nobody rethought its concept.
In addition, our same Orion (UAV) will see further and instantly transmit the data, and even give out target designation.

Yeah, and he will take out the reconnaissance group on himself, and he will cover it for a week

[Grits]

Quote: lucul

The machine is just outdated

Do you think the concept of Toyota with machine guns in the back is much more modern?

[nobody75]

With a tuned KPVT? Of course more modern !!! He is a reciprocal enemy - he can kill with a mainspring.
Sincerely

[fa2998]

Quote: aleks neym_2

It may be so, but God protects the one who is careful! Give a weakness, and "friends" are right there: the borders of the State SHOULD BE PROTECTED FROM A FAR, AND DO NOT WAIT WHEN HE CLEARS INTO YOUR HOUSE ... then maybe it will be too late ...

Just know how many Tajiks are warriors? Maybe they gave the party to the Taliban?

[Doliva63]

I have never seen a BRDM with a hatch in the side, like the BTR-80. Or lagged behind life?

[Grits]

Quote: Doliva63

I have never seen a BRDM with a hatch in the side, like the BTR-80. Or lagged behind life?

On the modernized cars, they threw out the wheels that were below and put additional doors there.

[p0pulivox]

Quote: p0pulivox

Quote: Mountain Shooter

Quote: faiver

12 BRDM, still Soviet-made, this is of course strength, the Taliban will think hard

12 KPVT in mountain conditions is a serious argument. And the cars are hardy, and they don't break through from a rifle ...

Those BRDM that were 30-40 years ago in service with the SA, armor-piercing acc. caliber break through easily.

I will add: their endurance was also not very good, the gasoline engine was a little weak, increased fire hazard, insufficient stability on rough terrain and poor visibility for the driver ...

[75 Sergey]

There is already a diesel

[Mikhail Samarov]

And then these our "friends" will shoot at us with the same gifts as in 91?

[75 Sergey]

And the United States gave them equipment https://tj.sputniknews.ru/20200110/usa-tajikistan-voennaya-tekhnika-1030523670.html
And a military American center was created there and the flags are kissing them https://newsland-com.turbopages.org/newsland.com/s/user/4297688565/content/v-tadzhikistane-poiavilas-novaia-amerikanskaia-voennaia-baz/4198629
Come on, Vasya, come on more.

[SPQR]

Eh BRDMka))))
The old man will still serve)))

[myao-chan]

With its policy of supporting opponents of the Taliban, Tajikistan provokes them to military action against their country, hoping for help from the Russian Federation. It is necessary to deliver an ultimatum to Tajikistan to observe neutrality and stop military assistance !!

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Janerobot

from what distances, and is it easy to approach this distance under the fire of KPVT

Quote: demiurg

For those who think that the BRDM sucks, I recommend taking the AKM and fighting with this machine.
31 megajoule of 14.5mm banana will unpack your confidence along with your body and what you thought was a shelter.

KPVT, of course, is a serious machine gun, but it does not solve the problem of the vulnerability of the BRDM. With AKM, no one will climb on it, experience shows that such armored vehicles are easily destroyed from behind cover with large-caliber machine guns and grenade launchers, as well as by mining the terrain ...
Even on "yesterday" day, the BRDM is more of a police rather than a combat vehicle. Yes, with the help of serious modernization it is possible to extend the "deadline for military service", but does it make sense ?! If only for export ...

[Artemion3]

Quote: Blue Fox

in order to strengthen the border with Afghanistan, Russia handed over a consignment of military equipment to Tajikistan.

It would be nice to transfer the Tajiks themselves from Russia to Tajikistan. To strengthen the border, of course.

Of all the peoples of the CIS, Tajiks are the most calm and peaceful.

[75 Sergey]

Yeah, they are quietly driving out the Russians.
Let me know, what is the status of the Russian language in Tajikistan?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Gritsa

Quote: Doliva63

I have never seen a BRDM with a hatch in the side, like the BTR-80. Or lagged behind life?

On the modernized cars, they threw out the wheels that were below and put additional doors there.

Look how it is. Thanks. I don't know which is better - wheels or doors.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

In hot climates, for sure.

[NSV]

BRDM-2m ...., but at least they know how to use the equipment that is in it?!?

[Doliva63]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

In hot climates, for sure.

Do you think a draft from the doors will save you from the heat?