How a Ukrainian expert told Kazakhs English fairy tales about the CSTO
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Exercise West 2021, which began on September 10, caused the expected horror in the West. Sometimes it seems that in the era of the fight against the Covid-19 pandemic, Russia and Belarus decided to "vaccinate" NATO and others waiting for the death of the Russian Federation, from the desire to "finish off the dying eastern beast."
So many things I have not read in recent days in the Western press.
I have not heard all kinds of expert assessments. Interestingly, experts, in general, know something about the army of Russia and the army of Belarus? Yesterday I read that the total number of participants in the exercise has exceeded one million, including those involved in the preparation of the exercise.
I wonder where did they get so many soldiers and officers from? I don't want to repeat nonsense.
But I accidentally read in Inosmi.ru an article from the Kazakh edition of Exclusive entitled "The CSTO is an instrument of pressure, not security."
The publication is well-known, working in the media market of Kazakhstan since 2002 and even awarded by the President of Kazakhstan "for objective and high-quality coverage of the country's economic life."
First of all, the interest was aroused by the fact that it was the Kazakh Russian-language edition that reacted to the participation in the exercises of the Kazakh special forces. Moreover, it reacted clearly negatively, judging by who was chosen by the journalists of Kazakhstan as an expert. Well, after reading the interview, it became clear why Ukrainian motives in domestic political life are already visible in Kazakhstan.
Exercises "West 2021" through the eyes of a Ukrainian expert and Kazakh liberals
Let's start with the fact that for some reason the Ukrainian expert Andrey Yusov was chosen as the best expert on the Russian and Belarusian army.
The same Andrey Yusov, who is the director of the School for Responsible Politics. The field commander of the "orange Maidan", the leader of the "Odessa Euromaidan", a participant in the burning of people in Odessa on May 2, 2014. And this is just the tip of the iceberg of the feats of the fighter for democracy.
Agree, a strange choice of journalists for an analytical interview on military exercises?
Especially considering that Yusov's specialization, according to education, is culture and art. Apparently, the Kazakh colleagues needed just such an expert? Just because his opinion is consonant with the opinion of the journalists themselves?
Well, let's try to understand the way of thinking of the expert and journalists.
So, how does Yusov feel about the participation of soldiers from the armies of the CSTO member states in the exercises?
The question is quite simple and can be answered simply. The CSTO is an organization designed to ensure the security of member states from external aggression. Wherever she threatened.
Therefore, any exercises of the army and fleet used by the military to practice joint actions of units and subdivisions of different countries.
What do we read in Exclusive?
There are no such simple answers. Instead, there are lengthy discussions about the teachings themselves and the role of Kazakhstan in them.
“The fact is that the teachings are clearly anti-Western in general and anti-Ukrainian in particular. Let me remind you that now more than 100 thousand Russian troops are stationed along the Russian-Ukrainian border. "
"Forces from the union state of Russia are repelling the attack of Western opponents, which in itself sounds ridiculous, since there is not even a hypothetical threat for Russia or Belarus from the western borders."
I really liked the pearl about the absence of a threat to Russia from the West.
This sounds especially fresh after numerous statements by Ukrainian politicians about the readiness and even the need for war, as well as the statement of the commander of the Armed Forces of Ukraine about the desire to walk with a new combat "creeping" step along Red Square and Arbat, and after Zelensky's recognition that war with Russia is possible.
“It is unlikely that Kazakhstan’s participation in military exercises in the European theater of military operations corresponds to the interests of its national security, but it definitely corresponds to the aggressive policy and interests of Putin, who are clearly trying to involve the countries in the CSTO, or rather, in the implementation of their own military strategy to increase escalation against Ukraine. , against the European Union and against other countries ”.
So this is it?
Kazakhstanis should know that now under the guise of combat Buryat submarines tank horsemen in Ukraine will fight Kazakhs. Guys from the Kazakh steppes of all nationalities are preparing to fight with Ukraine!
Or am I misunderstanding something?
Are Kazakhs as powerless today as Ukrainians were in 2013?
According to Yusov, today the poor Kazakh people have no rights and are completely ruled by Moscow. Simply put, for three decades of independence, the Kazakhs were unable to create their own state, like the Ukrainians.
“And in this vein for Kazakhstan, probably, the Ukrainian example should be especially instructive. The attitude of Russian politicians towards Kazakhstan is very reminiscent of the prehistory of the Russian-Ukrainian conflict.
Russia also reminded us of territorial gifts, infringement of the rights of Russian-speaking citizens, etc. Therefore, all states that somehow border on Russia should always be on the alert. "
Russia also reminded us of territorial gifts, infringement of the rights of Russian-speaking citizens, etc. Therefore, all states that somehow border on Russia should always be on the alert. "
Doesn't this tirade resemble what we already heard in the 90s?
Remember how the radical nationalists of the Asian republics were outraged by the dominance of the Russians? Remember the blood that was shed then because of such calls?
Language patrols in Kazakhstan - an invention of the Russians? Is the oppression of the Russians and the squeezing out of Kazakhstan also a fiction?
I do not think that nationalism in such multinational states as Kazakhstan or Russia is the path to peace. This is the path to war, to collapse, to extinction. The Ukrainian expert is just talking about this.
Look at Ukraine and you will see what kind of destiny Yusov offers you.
But the majority of young radicals are not used to thinking so much, and they do not know how.
CSTO was created for intimidation, and NATO for defense?
This is exactly what the Ukrainian expert says.
Moreover, the CSTO membership does not protect the state from external enemies, but serves as a press for pressure on radical European integrators. Although initially Putin (even for me it is already uncomfortable for our president - no matter what the comment is, it’s just Nostradamus of our day) planned exactly the bloc to resist NATO.
“Both Russia and the Putin regime would like to oppose at least something to NATO and, of course, the CSTO was created for this. Today Putin is trying to revive this structure, but this is nothing more than propaganda. "
Reading some of the conclusions that the Ukrainian expert talks about, I would like to shout:
- Hey, writer, people with Soviet education are still alive! .. How wonderful that our grandfathers and great-grandfathers did not study at the School of Responsible Politics and broke the back of German fascism and Japanese militarism, despite the fact that the economic potential of the USSR (and we we remember Czech tanks, French cars and many more that Europe threw at us, not Germany) was incomparably less than the potential of Europe.
“... War is not only weapon and the army. War is the ability of economies to wage war. And from this point of view, the potential of NATO and the alliance as a whole far exceeds the potential of the CSTO and Russia, as the basis of this bloc. "
But with the following conclusion of the expert Yusov, I, perhaps, agree. Only the CSTO and NATO should be swapped. Modern storyFor example, the recent events in Afghanistan and Syria confirm this.
“NATO (understand - CSTO) has never opposed itself to the CSTO and Russia (understand - NATO and the West). NATO (understand - the CSTO) is a bloc that must protect the members of the alliance. "
I do not know why Kazakh journalists do not see the obvious.
It is clear that for the sake of your political views you can sacrifice life, morality, morality, principles. Anything. But in this version, excuse the harshness, the Kazakh colleagues sacrificed their own title of journalist, their own souls.
And now the most interesting part from the Ukrainian politician and expert.
I will not even comment on this. I will just quote what is written in the Kazakh Exclusive article.
“NATO brings together countries with certain values and principles. In order to become a NATO member, it is necessary to be a democratic, market-based country, to carry out the necessary reforms, including in the field of freedom of speech, protection of democracy, and a fair judicial system. NATO in this respect is a value alliance that protects not only member states, but also the rights of the population living in these countries. "
“The CSTO has no principles, as well as values, and even more so, the general geopolitical interests of its members. CSTO members have very different visions of the situation in the regions and different interests. "
"... The re-establishment of the CSTO is nothing more than an attempt by the Kremlin to somehow maintain its military influence on the territory of the former Soviet Union."
"... The re-establishment of the CSTO is nothing more than an attempt by the Kremlin to somehow maintain its military influence on the territory of the former Soviet Union."
And the cherry on the cake.
For those who have already understood how distorted the understanding of the situation among Ukrainian politicians is.
Literally two short quotes:
“NATO has repeatedly proved that this is a truly international system of collective security. NATO is a certain standard that any country should strive for. "
“The CSTO has no standards, and no one guarantees or demands them. Therefore, this organization has no other goals than satisfying Putin's geopolitical ambitions. "
Again, whose president is Vladimir Putin?
Why does he decide everything in Ukraine and why can't Ukrainians live without mentioning his name?
It already seems to me that if Putin suddenly decides to become the president of Ukraine, he will win the elections of any politician of the Independent. Directly some kind of deity with them, and not a man?
A little about Belarus
I didn’t want to touch on this issue, but the other day an event took place that will have quite serious consequences for Russians and Belarusians. I mean the recent talks between the two presidents and their joint conference.
Yusov also answered the question about Belarus.
“Today we can already say for sure that the Belarusian people and Lukashenka’s regime are not the same thing.”
As far as I remember (I can, of course, be wrong), only one head of state in the entire history of mankind said "the state is me"? But Louis XIV was not president. He was king. And in his statement, he simply dotted the “i's” on the issue of absolute monarchy.
Naturally, President Lukashenko and the people of Belarus are not the same thing. Lukashenko is the representative of the majority. Like any other president.
I listened attentively to the press conference of Presidents Putin and Lukashenko. Unlike some analysts, I do not believe that we need to quickly unite into a single state. The union state is not a mini-USSR, it is a union of two states. Nobody joins in and nobody takes new territories for themselves. We are simply aligning the development of countries. The economy and everything else should be roughly equal.
This is exactly what is happening now. Yes, given our opportunities in the economy, today we are helping Belarusians to raise their standard of living. Yes, we are sometimes forced to infringe on our own businessmen for the sake of the development of such industries in Belarus. But this is what will ultimately lead to an equal union.
The Ukrainian expert reduces everything to primitive human "wishlist". Pan Yusov cannot even admit that the presidents can think about their own people.
“If we are talking about Lukashenka’s regime, of course, his field for maneuvers has very narrowed. Nevertheless, he still does not give an unambiguous answer about the readiness to create a Union State with the Russian Federation. Still, for him, the role of the leader of a separate country, albeit a dictator, is closer and more understandable than the head of some federal district of Russia.
But for Putin, in fact, it is more profitable to use Lukashenka's resource as a pro-Russian dictator of Belarus, against the background of which he will constantly remind his Western colleagues that he is in control of the situation. "
But for Putin, in fact, it is more profitable to use Lukashenka's resource as a pro-Russian dictator of Belarus, against the background of which he will constantly remind his Western colleagues that he is in control of the situation. "
Thoughts after reading the article
Sad.
Sad for the Ukrainians. It is sad for those Kazakhstanis who listen and read Exclusive.
It is sad for those who have forgotten how to think logically. I would say that the questions of Kazakh journalists and the answers of the Ukrainian expert are mutually exclusive. It was not for nothing that I wrote above about those who received a Soviet education.
I'll just refresh my memory a little.
NATO, unlike the CSTO, is a military-political bloc. At one time, he was also opposed by the military-political bloc of the Internal Affairs Directorate. After the collapse of the OVD, NATO did not dissolve itself after the disappearance of the enemy.
Further about the confrontation between NATO and Russia.
Has the alliance of Russia never opposed?
Then where did the bloc's troops come from on our borders?
Why does NATO not even hide its desire to divide, for example, Siberia or the Northern Sea Route?
What the Ukrainian expert reproaches the CSTO for is its strength. It is a military alliance that serves to defend against external enemies. Nobody and nobody imposes their values. The internal policy of the member states in the CSTO is not regulated. Let me remind you of the recent events in Nagorno-Karabakh.
I would rather reproach NATO and its "master" - the United States for imposing their own values on other states. It was the Americans who came up with the very standards that Yusov urges to strive for.
So where is our democracy and where is the dictatorship? Which block?
And again about the article.
Everything is clear with the Ukrainians. We wanted the best, it turned out as always. The understanding came that those who shouted about friendship and love the most, Poles, Balts and other Germans, treat Ukrainians today as slaves.
And those who are equal in “achievements” and desires, Moldova and Georgia, are in exactly the same position of the colonies.
But why do the Kazakhs need it? More precisely - to Kazakhstanis, given that the publication is Russian-language?
What, besides the collapse of the economy and the collapse of society, does Yusin offer?
It'S Nothing!
The article is so overwhelmed with primitive Anglo-Saxon propaganda that it evokes a disgusting feeling. A provocation to push British propaganda into Central Asia.
It remains only to urge those who read such honest and objective materials, think ...
Think so as not to cry later ...
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