Military experts: There are many questions about Taliban operations in Kandahar, Kunduz and Panjshir

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Military experts: There are many questions about Taliban operations in Kandahar, Kunduz and Panjshir

The issue of the situation in Panjshir, the Afghan province, which recently came under the control of the Taliban (* a terrorist group banned in Russia) is being discussed. Recall that representatives of the militia of Massoud Jr. say that they "still retain control over key points of the Panjshir Valley," which the Taliban * call fake.

While discussing the situation, military experts comment on the operations carried out by the Taliban in the Panjshir Valley, and before that in the country's major cities:



There are many questions about Taliban operations.

Among the main questions are the following: Who exactly in the Taliban is developing the operations? Moreover, we are talking here not only about Panjshir, but also about operations to quickly capture large Afghan cities, including Kandahar, Kunduz, etc.

When capturing cities, the Taliban used the tactics of rapid advance from different directions while simultaneously closing the ring around the settlements. Moreover, the Taliban approached Kandahar from at least three directions in large detachments, which were initially separated by at least 230 km.

After that, the advanced groups, which are actually special units, entered the cities, took positions on the tallest buildings, key intersections, and infrastructure facilities. Further, pockets of active resistance were destroyed, after which the Afghan security forces simply surrendered to the Taliban or under the guise of a civilian population, leaving weapon, went out through some transport corridors, if there was such an opportunity.

Another important question discussed by military experts: How was communication (communication) carried out between individual Taliban units during the capture of Panjshir and large Afghan cities? It is unlikely that the group has some kind of "mega-advanced" equipment that would allow not only to communicate in the mountains, often on opposite sides of the ridges, but also to use secure communication channels.

Therefore, a consideration is voiced according to which the NATO military, who were still in a fair number in Afghanistan, could easily cut off the Taliban's communication channels, which would at least significantly complicate the terrorist operations to capture the same Kunduz and Kandahar. NATO members could, but ... They just didn't do it.

It is noted that the preparation and conduct of operations was distinguished by special elaboration. Accordingly, the planning of the capture of cities and Panjshir was clearly not done by "amateurs in sandals."

However, there are also those experts who consider what is happening "a well-directed theatrical performance in which the Taliban pretended to carry out lightning-fast operations, the Afghan army pretended to resist them, and in the West they continue to pretend that they are very concerned about all this."
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    1. +8
      10 September 2021 16: 19
      Maybe so ... BUT we don't know the truth ... in fact, the collapse of the resistance was caused by the "flight" of the NATO contingent at the head of the United States and it does not seem strange ... the system was based on money and bayonets ... both suddenly disappeared, bringing everything down
      1. +2
        10 September 2021 16: 23
        The scenario is painfully similar to how ISIS invaded Iraq, the surroundings are different, but the style is the same. There is speculation that China is behind the scenes.
        1. +5
          10 September 2021 19: 16
          Quote: And Us Rat
          The scenario is painfully similar to how ISIS invaded Iraq, the surroundings are different, but the style is the same. There is speculation that China is behind the scenes.

          In this case, it looks more like the work of Pakistani intelligence, especially given the close connection between the Taliban and Pakistan, the likelihood of this is very high ...
        2. +4
          10 September 2021 19: 18
          100% Black & White Taliban ISIS 2.0 (ISILBAN)
        3. +4
          10 September 2021 23: 39
          The scenario is painfully similar to how ISIS invaded Iraq,

          And also how Yanukovych left Ukraine, and a dozen buses with young idlers "defeated" the army and the police .. laughing Or how the USSR withdrew its troops from Europe and unarmed people "defeated" their governments ... Someone, even like the Romanians, was slammed.
          What to look for a black cat in a dark room? She's not there, gentlemen of the General Staff. And nobody drew maps of the command staff. The Americans left - and that's it, the concert ended immediately. Listen, so "war". But in fact, the Americans crumbled more people in the airport with foolishness and fright than the Taliban for the entire "seizure" of Afgan.
      2. +12
        10 September 2021 16: 43
        Quote: silberwolf88
        collapse of resistance caused by "flight" of NATO contingent

        Can not be! Americans pretended to do it wassat Joe pretends to be sleepy and pretends to be lost. But Obama is to blame, he pretended to be African American wassat
        1. +3
          10 September 2021 17: 24
          Quote: hrych
          Quote: silberwolf88
          collapse of resistance caused by "flight" of NATO contingent

          Can not be! Americans pretended to do it wassat Joe pretends to be sleepy and pretends to be lost. But Obama is to blame, he pretended to be African American wassat

          That's right Hrych .. As Stanislavsky said "I DO NOT BELIEVE!" Rough play and staging.
          1. +6
            10 September 2021 18: 39
            Well-directed theatrical production.


            The Taliban core can be agents recruited by the CIA, said the president of the Russian section of the International Police Association Yuri Zhdanov. "In all these events in Afghanistan a lot of suspicious. In addition to the rapid success of the Taliban * troops, the depots of a variety of modern weapons in good working order, which have been left intact, are suspect. Nobody destroyed them or tried.

            It is obvious that the Americans have created their agent networks in the Taliban * to manage this chaos, for which several Taliban have been recruited. Abdul-Qayum Zakir, a former inmate of Guantanamo prison appointed Minister of Defense Afghanistan. And he was one of the main field commanders of the Taliban, he participated in battles with American forces, "Zhdanov said. The strength of the Taliban is not at all in new weapons, tank columns or air force squadrons. Their strength lies in ideology and the picture of the world that they offer their supporters.

            Source: https://ria.ru/20210828/tsru-1747618669.html
      3. +4
        10 September 2021 16: 55
        Certain people in Qatar know a lot.
        The handwriting is similar to the Mi-6 recruitment / introduction of second / third parties who ALWAYS want to be the first, the last ones (including successors) are eliminated:
        Bin Laden, Mulla Omar ...
        I do not exclude a tandem with Mossad or other Israeli special services.
        And the PRC needs to be more attentive with Pakistan, although (theoretically)
        The Celestial Empire can also (under certain conditions) participate in this "show".
        Moreover, in Afghanistan during the Mujahideen era, Angola, she actively cooperated with the West.
      4. +4
        10 September 2021 18: 08
        Military experts: There are many questions about Taliban operations in Kandahar, Kunduz and Panjshir

        A terribly interesting question, especially for military experts.
        And who from NATa for 20 years in Afghanistan was really engaged in countering the Taliban?
        No.
        And the Taliban in 20 years, at home, could form and understand the structure of the state structure and calmly instill it in the rest of the population and wait for a suitable favorable moment for its announcement?
        Yes.
        And there is some nuance that the Taliban is not a chess league.

        Well, then, "military experts" are looking for maps and felt-tip pens of the Taliban General Staff? laughing
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      6. 0
        12 September 2021 16: 20
        You were there ? That's how you say it)
    2. +8
      10 September 2021 16: 22
      Who exactly in the Taliban is developing operations?

      Maybe the question can be put differently .. Who is so competently guiding and supplying them with information that they practically seized Afghanistan without a fight with 300 thousand government Army, well-armed soldiers, etc. There are a lot of questions ..
      1. +3
        10 September 2021 16: 29
        Look at the ruff on YouTube, there is no 300k army there. Most of them are the local militia.
        1. 0
          10 September 2021 17: 03
          Quote: Darkesstcat
          Most of them are the local militia.

          And where do the mountains of weapons and armored vehicles come from? The Americans were preparing an army to invade Iran. The main plan of attack was still under Bush Junior. But Sakashvillo choked on his tie, Lemon Brothers went bankrupt and pulled everyone into a whirlpool. Hawk replaced the Dove of Peace - Obama. And they started the Arab Spring and the Great Gas War with Russia, postponing the strike on Iran. The Afghan army was decaying in anticipation, and the Taliban were learning how to fight.
          1. 0
            10 September 2021 22: 19
            Quote: hrych
            The Afghan army was decomposing in anticipation, and the Taliban were learning how to fight.

            Back in May, information came across that in recent years the Taliban have built up intelligence, planning, logistics, and their own UAVs, and that after the withdrawal of the States, the Afghans will not hold out for a long time. And so it happened.
            The only thing is that they haven't caught Masud yet. And so - they fight well. Skill. hi
            1. +2
              10 September 2021 22: 27
              Massoud is no longer in Afghanistan, as is Saleh. Saleh admitted that he was in Tajikistan and, like, returned. Those. confirmed that he had escaped. Masoud himself is not a military leader, but a brand. Their generals were killed. That they admitted. The main one was on Twitter.
              1. +1
                10 September 2021 22: 29
                I’m waiting for Masud to show up. wink
      2. +5
        10 September 2021 16: 42
        This has long been answered. The last 2 presidents of Afghanistan, Karzai and Ghani, were very supportive of the Taliban and pressed their own military from the northern territories. Where are the guarantees that they have not leaked all strategic information to the Taliban and merged the entire country. In Face in the groups, there is the frankness of Ghani from Dubai, how he beautifully merged everything and brought his relatives to power and handed over Tajik territories to them. We do not know where the source came from, but there is such a message.
      3. +5
        10 September 2021 16: 56
        Quote: Monomax
        in fact, without a fight, they captured Afghan with 300 thousand government army, well-armed soldiers, etc. There are a lot of questions ..

        There are no answers and are not expected, but everything went as beautifully as the Germans captured Czechoslovakia. There was a catch here.
        1. +5
          10 September 2021 17: 04
          Quote: tihonmarine
          Quote: Monomax
          in fact, without a fight, they captured Afghan with 300 thousand government army, well-armed soldiers, etc. There are a lot of questions ..

          There are no answers and are not expected, but everything went as beautifully as the Germans captured Czechoslovakia. There was a catch here.

          Here I am talking about this Vlad ..! Here they were clearly directed and prepared for the surrender of the city .. And the weapons in the warehouses? This is nonsense .. In fact, the Taliban movement did not have a centralized command, they were united by faith and some kind of connections .. But this movement did not have a single whole .. a bunch of weapons to do .. Judging by their confused faces in the hastily formed government ..)))
          1. 0
            10 September 2021 17: 13
            Quote: Monomax
            But this movement did not have a single whole ..

            It is true that they did not have a center, but they did, but they did not.
            1. -1
              10 September 2021 18: 24
              Quote: tihonmarine
              Quote: Monomax
              But this movement did not have a single whole ..

              It is true that they did not have a center, but they did, but they did not.

              Was, but still strange !!!
              the Yankees entered Afghan and killed the Taliban, then they left and the Taliban came to power ..
              Who knows what and does not know but the Yankees never lose heart ..
              I started singing like rap))))) Oh oh .. Ugh damn laughing
      4. +4
        10 September 2021 17: 44
        Quote: Monomax
        Who directs them and provides them with information so competently that they practically captured Afghanistan without a fight

        If this is a staging, then a possible goal is to introduce as many militants as possible under the guise of refugees in different countries. "They will regret and accept." Only not all the extras were warned about this, the US military contingent, for example. To make everything look authentic.
      5. +1
        11 September 2021 09: 05
        Quote: Monomax
        in fact, without a fight, they captured Afghan with 300 thousand government army, well-armed soldiers, etc. There are a lot of questions ..

        the strength of the army is not measured in numbers (in any case, not all parameters)
        I have an army of 300,000. everyone gets paid and marches in parades.
        how to measure the motivation of a given army to fight and shed blood?

        if there is no motivation, then it may be 5 million, but it will still not fight.
      6. 0
        12 September 2021 16: 23
        There was an agreement to transfer Afgan to someone. Taliban cover. But you see, during the transfer, someone decided to play not corrected. Myamen and Guinea appeared. I'm waiting further. It's very interesting where else they will hit.
    3. +3
      10 September 2021 16: 25
      The fact that the play was played and the United States simply handed over Afghanistan, along with all the weapons, is more than obvious to the Taliban. Over time, we will understand all their other agreements and plans.
      1. +1
        10 September 2021 16: 42
        This is exactly how it is!
      2. +2
        10 September 2021 17: 06
        Quote: OgnennyiKotik
        The fact that the play was played and the United States simply handed over Afghanistan, along with all the weapons, is more than obvious to the Taliban. Over time, we will understand all their other agreements and plans.

        The performance is unambiguously and bloody .. The whole point is in a heap of weapons left by the United States for a huge amount!
        Whom will they arm and where will they go next ..?

        Something's going on like this
      3. +1
        10 September 2021 17: 14
        first you need to read the text of the agreement between the United States and the Taliban. everything was written there ... or not?
        Obama also wanted to withdraw the troops. and the question is overripe for 10 years.
        mountains of weapons have already been paid for - and are not of interest to the masters of the world. Problems with Iran and other neighbors, including the distant Russian Federation - but the United States is very, very far away ... unattainable.

        the price of the issue is the globalists' control of money in the United States against isolationists (Trump).
        it is the difference of approaches in withdrawal or "flight".
        there were no losses, and 13 marines were 3 days late to fly
      4. 0
        10 September 2021 21: 59
        target?
        China ?: Is there a conflict with the Uyghurs + China is actively building routes to Pakistan so as not to depend on the straits for oil supplies and more recently a bus with Chinese engineers attacked in Pakistan coincidence?
        the hands of the Taliban to fight China - to close the path to the Indian Ocean
        1. 0
          12 September 2021 16: 27
          The Taliban are rumored to be funded by Pakistani special services. Pakistan in bundles with China (they really want Kashmir). Also, a gas pipeline through Afghanistan, well, I didn’t want to be built for 3 years already, although everywhere it was already built from Turkmenistan to China itself. Even through India. I think it was a bribe to China. He did not appreciate it) As well as for us they made a high price for gas. We appreciated it. But China decided that it was already cool. But as they say, there is no reception against scrap, if there is no other scrap)
    4. +2
      10 September 2021 16: 29
      There are many questions to the tactics and strategy of the Taliban. As it is famously they succeed.
      1. +2
        10 September 2021 17: 22
        Quote: Mountain Shooter
        There are many questions to the tactics and strategy of the Taliban. As it is famously they succeed.

        They just walk quietly in groups and know exactly where, and everyone surrenders to them, without firing a single shot ..
        Massoud tried to resist, but he was quickly neutralized and obviously not only by the Taliban.
        Here Eugene is not purely something, and I guess what the Taliban and K are preparing for by the cunning Yankees.
        1. +1
          10 September 2021 19: 03
          Quote: Monomax
          Here Eugene is not purely something, and I guess what the Taliban and K are preparing for the cunning Yankees

          Well, Russia has learned a little ... ISIS will not let you lie. So they can try to portray something. Against the CSTO members ... And you won't need to invite, like Assad ...
      2. +1
        10 September 2021 21: 43
        International @afintlbrk managed to get hold of a voice recording of one of the leaders of the Taliban (movement is prohibited in the Russian Federation), who says that the "visitor" by the proclamation of the Taliban government and the "Haqqani network" destroyed the entire future of Afghanistan.

        He says the Taliban had plans to include all ethnic groups in the country, including the Hazaras, in the government.

        Whom does he mean by "visitor": A photo of ISI (Pakistani Inter-Service Intelligence) chief Lieutenant General Faiz Hamid in Kabul.

        We will publish this voice recording tomorrow. "

        Harun Najafizada, Director of Afghanistan International
        1. 0
          10 September 2021 22: 44
          It is also not advisable for us to butt the Taliban. In Syria, at least, the goal is not to allow the pipe. And for the CSTO? Will the economy of the Russian Federation pull another theater of operations?
          1. +1
            10 September 2021 23: 42
            Quote: Essex62
            And for the CSTO?

            Now let's check, xy from xy ...? The Tajiks will definitely resist, although it all depends on the loyalty of the army. On the other side, now, at the head of the Taliban, the opposition squeezed out by Rakhmonov into Afghanistan. The so-called "Pamir" ... In general, the Taliban is not the same as it was in the 90s .. They are no longer only Pashtuns. The Taliban became international.

            Quote: Essex62
            Will the economy of the Russian Federation pull another theater of operations?

            Who knows..? But there are no options, we have to intervene. Otherwise, along the entire border with Kazakhstan, we will have to create a fortified area.
            1. +3
              11 September 2021 11: 14
              The prospect is bleak. But you are right, it is impossible to admit them beyond the borders of the USSR
              1. +3
                11 September 2021 12: 08
                Quote: Essex62
                The prospect is bleak.

                The forecast is not comforting at all ... It is very similar to the beginning of the 20th century. Preconditions for World War II. A new redistribution is coming. sad
                1. +1
                  11 September 2021 22: 29
                  We have no chances in a conventional mix. Only a vigorous loaf. But if all this is unrolled from other, non-western directions, we can get bogged down and burn out, not very rich, cadre units, to a real start. Although the loaf will still remain. The main thing is to be in time. For the Freemasons, we are, in terms of liquidation, more attractive than China.
                  1. 0
                    11 September 2021 23: 07
                    Quote: Essex62
                    We have no chances in a conventional mix.

                    It depends on who ... The best option if the whole batch is in the Pacific Ocean region and Southeast Asia ...
                    Quote: Essex62
                    more attractive than China.

                    We are probably simpler, but China is gaining such power that time for the Anglo-Saxons is running out ... Another 10 years and no one can cope with China ... Not even the coalition ...
                    1. +2
                      12 September 2021 10: 43
                      There is no certainty that this power can actually work. Never when did China win victories in wars. They'll take Taiwan, then we'll believe.
    5. +2
      10 September 2021 16: 30
      How was communication (communication) carried out between the individual detachments of the Taliban during the capture of Panjshir and large Afghan cities? It is unlikely that the group has some kind of "mega-advanced" equipment that would allow not only to communicate in the mountains, often on opposite sides of the ridges, but also to use secure communication channels.

      The author is probably not in the subject, but the Americans just left the latest communication means in Afghanistan, and not just communication means, but command machines of the latest generation, which not only provide absolutely encrypted communication channels, but are also able to listen to any other means of communication, as well as also conduct target designation for high-precision ammunition, as well as create a local Internet for transferring a huge amount of data, and much more they can.
      And they threw a lot of such complexes, for an amount with eight zeros.
      1. +3
        10 September 2021 17: 17
        Quote: Ramzaj99
        And they threw a lot of such complexes, for an amount with eight zeros.

        And the specialists in these complexes were from those "300 thousand" trained, or those "assistants" who did not want to leave Kabul.
      2. +3
        10 September 2021 17: 22
        So only trained people will be able to work on this equipment.
        1. +1
          10 September 2021 18: 34
          I don't think it's a big problem to prepare an operator for such a kshm. Modern technology is quite user friendly.
          But the fact that the Taliban ruled from some single center and worked out the plan of the operation in the same place, I am absolutely sure.
        2. +1
          10 September 2021 18: 52
          Quote: Gembyh124
          So only trained people will be able to work on this equipment.

          Pakistani special forces are working there. Taliban operations are supported by Pakistani drones, the Pakistani defense minister, chiefs of staff and Pakistani intelligence services travel there as if they were home, all operations are coordinated by the Pakistani general staff. Can't they find a couple of dozen specialists under such conditions ?? !!
    6. +8
      10 September 2021 16: 33
      Who exactly in the Taliban is developing operations? Moreover, we are talking here not only about Panjshir, but also about operations to quickly capture large Afghan cities, including Kandahar, Kunduz, etc.

      There is a series "Better Call Saul" that will solve all your problems
      Here is a bit different "better call Javed"
      And your slippers will shine with new colors laughing drinks
      1. +7
        10 September 2021 16: 43
        Quote: spirit
        Here is a bit different "better call Javed"

        Finally... good
        What is there to come up with ..? Officials of Pakistan spoke about this almost openly. Pakistan, a country at war. There are enough experienced commanders. The area has been familiar since the 80s ...
        Was it in vain that demonstrations against Pakistan in Kabul? wink
    7. +9
      10 September 2021 16: 40
      In the notes of one intelligence officer from the second Chechen one, the same question slipped ... the capture and retention of key points by SPN groups at the same time entering the city from different directions ... so that nothing new prohibited in tactics did not bring, this begs for any tactically competent person , yes, you don't have to walk far ... Donbass is nearby.
      Jamming communications and capturing heights ... Panjshir was also disconnected from the Internet, I remember.
      1. 0
        10 September 2021 16: 51
        I'm afraid we'll soon test the strength of two tactical schools ...
        Sincerely
    8. +4
      10 September 2021 16: 42
      I beg your pardon. Am I the only one who did not understand the meaning of the article? What is this fortune-telling on the coffee grounds: "maybe ...., maybe ...". Was that what I read? Actually, experts are not TV and network experts, but experts of the instructor, they perfectly read the fighting style and read, so to speak, the school of battle tactics.
      1. +1
        10 September 2021 17: 09
        Quote: newbie
        I beg your pardon. Am I the only one who did not understand the meaning of the article? What is this fortune-telling on the coffee grounds: "maybe ...., maybe ...". Was that what I read? Actually, experts are not TV and network experts, but experts of the instructor, they perfectly read the fighting style and read, so to speak, the school of battle tactics.


        The "defense" on the ground was led by pro-government forces, by and large simply surrendered.
        So there, it seems, even the mobile connection was generally not turned off.
        Communication was needed to agree where to surrender to come on American armored cars)

        In Kabul, the Taliban cut off electricity, but Kabul is one and the main direction, with the Taliban Pakistani instructors were apparently noticed, encrypted communication is obviously attached along with intelligence.

        In Panjshir, allegedly Pakistani special forces were also seen, again, Massoud hardly had high-quality electronic warfare. The Taliban could use commercial high-quality radio stations with "civilian" encryption.

        Therefore, it is not clear what surprised the expert?
      2. +3
        10 September 2021 18: 25
        Quote: newbie
        I beg your pardon. Am I the only one who did not understand the meaning of the article? What is this fortune-telling on the coffee grounds: "maybe ...., maybe ...". Was that what I read? Actually, experts are not TV and network experts, but experts of the instructor, they perfectly read the fighting style and read, so to speak, the school of battle tactics.

        How is Guberman's winked
        I'm a jubilee notch
        the other day made on a rake
    9. +2
      10 September 2021 17: 06
      It is unlikely that the group has some kind of "mega-advanced" equipment that would allow not only to communicate in the mountains, often on opposite sides of the ridges, but also to use secure communication channels.

      They have such equipment. The smartphone is called.
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    11. +1
      10 September 2021 17: 37
      Definitely they will not be there, but the Pakistanis are not even hiding:
      https://youtu.be/XcTecfT-KKY
      1. -1
        10 September 2021 20: 35
        Well, Russians are everywhere, yeah. Vaughn in Colombia during the riots in May, the senator with a blue eye immediately called who was to blame - Venezuela, Cuba and Russia. But seriously, I doubt that we have any serious influence on the Taliban. Especially through packs. Because they don't have it either. Of course they do. But they don't.
    12. +5
      10 September 2021 17: 59
      Military experts: There are many questions about Taliban operations in Kandahar, Kunduz and Panjshir
      and what is incomprehensible? Won .... "friendship", although rather hatred of minke whales and those who crawled under them!
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      2. +1
        10 September 2021 19: 07
        Quote: rocket757
        Friendship won"

        Yes, Friendship 2016, Friendship 2017, Friendship 2018, Friendship 2019, Friendship 2020,
        and this is just the tip of the iceberg.
        1. +2
          10 September 2021 19: 10
          The iceberg is melting and soon the top will show what was hidden in the depths.
          1. +2
            10 September 2021 20: 09
            Quote: rocket757
            The iceberg is melting and soon the top will show what was hidden in the depths.

            It won't take long for everything to come out.
    13. +1
      10 September 2021 18: 59
      And I have, for example, questions to the experts themselves. What are you in general after the fiasco of all your predictions about Afghanistan?
      1. +3
        10 September 2021 19: 13
        There are many experts ... but there are very few specialists, professionals, but they just gave out a forecast close to what happened now.
        1. +2
          10 September 2021 19: 46
          The fact of the matter is that behind the noise of all kinds of experts, specialists are not to be heard.
    14. +2
      10 September 2021 20: 29
      They are pulling the owl onto the globe, pulling the alleged NATO participation in the creation and development of the Taliban. Well, after all, how can it be that the slippers use their slippers to ottolerant, ah-ah. In reality, the professional military went over to the side of the Taliban, and they were engaged in planning. Exactly the same as in the Civil, on the side of the Reds, who immediately, who later went over to a significant number of officers, especially staff officers. And exactly as it was with us then, so now with the Taliban - the national liberation movement offered clear and understandable to everyone, and most importantly, acceptable and even expected slogans. That somewhere there were flank strikes, a trench war with government troops? No, they just laid down their arms, or went over to the side of the Taliban, or tore their claws.
      1. +1
        11 September 2021 01: 04
        Quote: chevere
        They are pulling the owl onto the globe, pulling the alleged NATO participation in the creation and development of the Taliban. Well, after all, how can it be that the slippers use their slippers to ottolerant, ah-ah. In reality, the professional military went over to the side of the Taliban, and they were engaged in planning. Exactly the same as in the Civil, on the side of the Reds, who immediately, who later went over to a significant number of officers, especially staff officers. And exactly as it was with us then, so now with the Taliban - the national liberation movement offered clear and understandable to everyone, and most importantly, acceptable and even expected slogans. That somewhere there were flank strikes, a trench war with government troops? No, they just laid down their arms, or went over to the side of the Taliban, or tore their claws.

        +100/500 to you.
        The popular (propaganda) picture of the Civil War in Russia is as follows:
        1. White - officers, Cossacks, "kulaks" and "podkulachniki"
        2. Reds - workers, poor people and other disadvantaged people.
        And the latter, exclusively at the expense of class and proletarian consciousness, defeated the former.
        Meanwhile, the number of officers of the tsarist army (military experts) who went to serve in the Red Army in 1919 is estimated at 35,5 (Thirty five and a half) thousand people. Not bad. Is not it?
        The Afghan "miracle" has about the same reasons in terms of the Taliban's military operations.
        The Taliban had ALL the information they needed, down to the smallest detail. Because the overwhelming majority of the Afghan army was in favor of the Taliban, while the Americans simply received their salaries.
        1. +1
          11 September 2021 21: 59
          The smart ones have gone over. Others resisted. In other matters, if they did not pass, the result is the same. The backbone is fucked up. It's ripe.
    15. 0
      10 September 2021 20: 29
      Who exactly in the Taliban is developing operations?
      ===
      “A donkey laden with gold will take any fortress. “- Philip II of Macedon
      1. 0
        11 September 2021 14: 02
        A donkey with gold can take a fortress. But to keep her - no.
    16. +2
      10 September 2021 20: 33
      The tactic of "infiltrating" the cities is clearly from ISIS. What is the Afghan army and that it costs nothing at all, many people still remember from our Afghan campaign. The organization of communication between ISIS units has always been at its best and worked out to the smallest detail - there is an obvious school of the former owners here. The agreement on the delivery of equipment and weapons in warehouses without damage between the Taliban and the Americans was also explicit. What else could the Americans do? Otherwise, they would have had to carry out the evacuation under enemy fire, and most of the aircraft would now be burning brightly in Kabul, and instead of rabies there would be dead people. All other strongholds, one way or another, surrendered to the Afghan army without a fight. Pakistani special forces worked at the Salang pass, these guys know him very well. When the Americans entered Iraq and Afghanistan, everything was bought from them, and the Taliban were tame. But ... the Taliban learned from the persistent failures of the West and made changes to their strategy, putting ideology above money. They are Muslims, for them it is done quickly. Those who took money from the States have been on a hook or with their heads under their arms for a long time. The Taliban's information offensive against the background of Biden's inept excuses went smoothly. No expert in the world can assess the situation in Afghanistan. What the Taliban captured there, and what is just nonsense, no one will understand anything. Do experts know a lot about the situation in Iran, Pakistan or in China? Where the elites are not completely bought, the Americans are powerless today.
    17. +1
      10 September 2021 21: 15
      The Americans, of course, are well prepared, but where do they care about the graduates of the Academy of the General Staff ...
    18. +2
      10 September 2021 21: 45
      it looks like a production, they could not reformat them so quickly, we know what the most peaceful religion is, and then there are clear consistent actions, peaceful, civilized statements about friendship with neighbors, neither your heads cut off for a show, nor demonstrative executions, though the women were flogged ( but that is different)), the mentality is not a hat, you cannot change, there is both a producer and a director
    19. 0
      11 September 2021 07: 27
      It looks like the embodiment of Dostum's strategy: - The north of Afghanistan will rise. To lure and expose the Pashtun radicals in a foreign ethnic territory, so that they can be exposed from the guerrilla. A war in the mountains, not in residential areas, is like peace for the world - there is no need for war.
    20. 0
      11 September 2021 08: 34
      Rather, they could only come and suppress, as it turned out, very small centers of resistance of the supporters of the "civilized society" and the opposing clans. Their art of propaganda and brainwashing can be learned ...
    21. +1
      11 September 2021 17: 46
      To fill up the region with drugs turned out to be not so effective, so the Yankees switched to the second variant of destabilization - to fill up with weapons ...
    22. 0
      12 September 2021 11: 47
      So I have the same impression: a show for fools!
    23. 0
      12 September 2021 22: 49
      The Taliban and the rest of the And the Hybrid movements created the United States, All, almost the leaders of these armies, went through Guantanamo (not the fact that the prison is not an information cover for the true purpose of this facility). size, repeated in Afghanistan. "Urgent reel" of NATO troops and sixes, speaks of the complete preparation of the "Main target". Involvement of Russia in the non-nuclear, but bloody "Tyagomotina" of Central Asia - is it not a brilliant plan of the West?

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