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100th Anniversary of the Battle of Mount Blair

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This month marks 100 years since the end of the Battle of Mount Blair, when 20 miners in southern West Virginia with weapons in their hands they fought against a private army of thugs hired by the owners of the coal mines. The fierce battle lasted from August 25 to September 2, 1921, when the US military, deployed by President Warren Harding, took over coal mines, disarming and arresting hundreds of miners.


Battle Story


The Battle of Mount Blair was part of a wave of working class struggles in the United States and internationally that was inspired by the Great October Revolution of 1917 in Russia.

Back in 1919, 350 steelworkers took part in the great steel strike, 000 coal miners went on strike nationwide, and 400 workers took part in a general strike in Seattle.

The American ruling class, fearing its own "October", responded with brutal repression. Attorney General Mitchell Palmer carried out a series of raids across the country in which more than 10 foreign workers were detained on charges of socialist, labor organization and anti-war activities.

During World War I, southern West Virginia coal was in high demand, especially for the fuel supply of the naval fleet USA. President Woodrow Wilson exempted the miners from conscription, but insisted that they increase production for the "war of democracy."

Wilson put Samuel Gompers, head of the American Federation of Labor, on the National Defense Council. The United Miners' Union fully supported the war, and every copy of United Miners magazine included a poster calling for more coal.

Throughout the war, coal magnates made huge profits from the fact that miners worked long hours for a small fee and were under constant threat of gas explosions, collapse and mechanical accidents. In 1918 alone, 2 miners died, including 580 in West Virginia.

Miners in West Virginia were also under the iron cap of the coal magnates, as well as the judges, police forces, and politicians who controlled them.

The miners lived in company cities, where almost everything - from their hovels, which had no heating or running water, to the shops where they bought their goods - belonged to the mine owners.

Mine owners paid wages to county sheriffs and their deputies to guard their property, collect rent from miners, and attack union miners. In addition, they hired thugs and spies from the Baldwin Felts Detective Agency, whose agents were also sworn in as law enforcement officers.

Hundreds of mining guards and sheriff's deputies patrolled the roads and roamed the cities on foot and on horseback carrying shotguns, rifles, pistols, batons, looking for union organizers and union miners.

Freedom of speech and public assembly were banned for miners. They were also not allowed to gather in groups of more than two. The miners' mail was scrutinized, read, and sometimes censored by the postmen of the company stores. As an additional measure of protection, companies began to fence their cities with barbed wire fences around 1913–1914.

Miners were forced to sign contracts that obliged them not to become members of various labor organizations and trade unions, or even refuse to "help, encourage or approve" such an organization. Workers convicted of wrongdoing or even suspected of union sympathies have been fired and forcibly evicted from their company's homes.

Despite attempts by coal magnates to divide workers along racial and ethnic lines, West Virginia workers, made up mostly of Italian and Hungarian immigrants, Appalachians, and former black sharecroppers from the South, rallied against the capitalist class.

This was shown by the Paint Creek - Cabine Creek strike of 1912-1913. The solidarity between blacks and whites, Protestants and Catholics, immigrant miners and indigenous people was unbreakable.

The Paint Creek - Cabine Creek strike, which took place southeast of Charleston, was a significant breakthrough. The miners fought a 15-month battle against the Baldwin-Felt thugs, who built an armored train to machine-gun the tent camps of the evicted striking miners.

The rank-and-file miners, led by 24-year-old Cayut Creek miner Frank Keeney, took the struggle out of the hands of the conservative national leadership of the local labor organization and turned to the Socialist Party to hold mass meetings and give talks.

Soon, the tycoons finally yielded to the miners.

However, after the strike, the owners of the coal mines were determined to take revenge. One Logan County tycoon expressed concern that the miners wanted to "take over the mines themselves ... In short, establish a Soviet government."

Massacre in Matevan


In May 1920, tens of thousands of West Virginia non-union miners who remained at work during the 1919 national strike joined United Mine Workers, hoping to join the next national strike. Any miner found to have joined the UMWA was fired.

Once again, coal companies recruited members of the Baldwin-Felts detective agency, which sent Lee and Albert Feltz, brothers of the agency's founder, Thomas Felts, to personally oversee efforts to “curb” the miners. The armed bandits immediately evicted workers and their families from the company's housing.

The agents met immediate resistance from the miners and their supporters, including Sid Hatfield, a former miner and police chief of Matevan, West Virginia, and the mayor of the city, Keybell Testerman. On May 19, 1920, Hatfield, Testerman, and a group of armed and authorized miners tracked down Felts and his agents to enforce an arrest warrant and take them into custody. At the confrontation, Felts stated that he had a warrant for Hatfield's arrest.

Witnesses reported that Testerman examined the alleged warrant and said, "It's a fake." But he was immediately shot by Albert Felts. Hatfield and the miners returned fire. And by the time the shooting ended, nine of the 12 Baldwin-Felts agents were dead, including both the Felt brothers. In addition to the mayor, two miners were killed.

The clash became known as the Matevan Massacre.

On orders from the mine owners, the state government brought in the state police, removed Hatfield from office, and arrested him. Strikes broke out in the coalfields of southern West Virginia in the interim before Hatfield's trial.

In January 1921, a sympathetic jury at Matevan acquitted Hatfield and 15 others for the murder of Albert Felts.

After the state legislature passed the reactionary Jury Bill, which allowed a judge to choose a jury from another district, a different trial date was set.

On August 1, 1921, when Hatfield was about to stand trial, Baldwin-Felts agents ambushed and killed him and his friend Ed Chambers at the entrance to the Mingo County Courthouse in Welch.

None of the killers have ever been brought to justice.

March to Blair Mountain


The news of Hatfield's murder infuriated the miners.

Kenny and District 17 Treasurer Fred Mooney had hoped Governor Ephraim Morgan would step in and agree to a deal to recognize the union and free the imprisoned miners in Mingo. Instead, the governor flatly rejected it.

Miners, including many veterans of the Paint Creek-Cabin Creek Strike, began gathering in large numbers at union strongholds in Kanawa and Boone counties and held large gatherings.

A demand was made for an armed march from their location through Logan County to Mingo County to free the captured miners and bring Don Chaffin, "King of the Logan Kingdom" to justice. The mine owners gave Chafin virtually unlimited funds to raise a private army of 2 heavily armed anti-union thugs.

As information spread about the march, Chafin began to strengthen the defenses on Mount Blair, where machine gunners were sent, as well as soldiers with explosives and even planes that were planned to be used to drop gas grenades and bombs on miners.

Exact estimates vary, but at least 10 miners began their march on August 000, recruiting more workers from other counties as they progressed. Higher estimates indicate that up to 20 miners took up arms and took part in the fighting.

What inspired the miners to march was the spirit of class solidarity, regardless of race or nationality. They marched in red bandanas tied around their necks to distinguish themselves from the armed thugs who tied white handkerchiefs to their arms.

On August 25, hostilities began with minor skirmishes. Despite the significant numerical superiority, Chafin's forces dug in fortified positions that allowed them to fire at the miners from above, from the mountainside.

The miners, including some 2 World War I veterans, operated with military discipline. To obtain supplies, strikers raided company-owned stores without sparing or paying the owners of the independent stores.

A few days later, a stalemate arose in which the miners could not advance beyond the machine-gun fire lines, and the company's army could not leave its defensive positions to smash the miners' positions. It was then that Chafin began to use planes and, with their help, drop bombs on the miners' positions.

The US War Department dispatched Brigadier General Harry Hill Bandholz (who earned his credentials by overseeing the crackdown on US colonial resistance in the Philippines) to meet with Kenny and Mooney. He ordered them to disperse the miners and threatened to be held accountable if they did not.

At a meeting in Madison, Kenny told the miners:

"You can fight the West Virginia government, but I swear to God you cannot fight the United States government."

The miners challenged Kenny and continued their march, at one point finding themselves only six kilometers from the city of Logan. A terrified coal tycoon in town telegraphed a congressman asking him to contact President Harding and

"Tell him that if he doesn't send soldiers to Logan by midnight tonight, the city of Logan will be attacked by an army of four to eight thousand Reds and will suffer heavy losses in property."

On September 2, President Harding (whose Treasury Secretary Andrew Mellon owned mines in Logan and Mingo counties) ordered 2 federal troops and 500 bombers to rescue coal magnates and crush what his officials called "civil war" and "armed rebellion."

As more and more army forces approached, the miners at first seemed ready to continue the fight. However, Bill Blizzard, the UMWA leader who commanded the miners, ordered the miners not to shoot at the soldiers and began helping the army to disarm the workers.

The miners' feelings were mixed. Some believed that federal intervention would help their cause and that they would be a neutral force in resolving the conflict with the mine owners.

But they quickly got rid of such illusions.

By September 4, many miners managed to escape by returning home. Others were less fortunate. They came under massive arrests organized by the US Army. A total of 985 miners were taken into custody.

General Bandgolts rejected requests from miners to hold rallies in federal-controlled areas and began censoring all news messages that sympathized with the miners in any way.

The suppression of miners will be followed by an escalation of repression and the virtual collapse of the UMWA.

In West Virginia, union membership has dropped from over 50 to a handful.

At the national level, union membership has dropped from over 600 to just 000.

Battle Lessons


There was no part of the American working class more militant and class-conscious than the miners of southern West Virginia.

The miners, like the rest of the working class, did indeed fight the US government and the capitalist system it defended. And here the spontaneous militancy of the workers was not enough. What was needed was political and revolutionary leadership.

John L. Lewis, who served as president of the UMWA from 1921 to 1960, was a staunch enemy of socialism. He opposed the left in the UMWA, who, back in 1926, called for the nationalization of coal mines and the creation of a party to fight the attack on hundreds of thousands of jobs due to mechanization. By 1927, Lewis had pushed the anti-communist clause into the UMWA's constitution.

“Trade unionism, unlike communism,” declared Lewis in 1937, “presupposes an employment relationship; it is based on a wage system and fully and unconditionally recognizes the institution of private property and the right to investment profits. "

Appealing to employers to recognize and cooperate with unions, he continued:

"The organized workers of America, free in their productive lives, conscientious partners in production, secured in their homes and with a decent standard of living, will prove to be the best bulwark against the invasion of doctrines alien to government."

The dominance of the anti-communist labor bureaucracy in the labor movement and its political subordination of the working class to the US government had disastrous consequences not only for the miners, but for all workers.
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  1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
    Kote Pan Kokhanka 14 September 2021 05: 14
    +5
    I read the article twice. In the first third, something forgotten on the verge of memory from childhood is firmly felt. And the truth is political information, for which it was necessary to prepare in turn at school !!! Moreover, everyone had one source - Pionerskaya Pravda or Zvezdochka magazine. And only the advanced ones risked raising topics covered by the serious newspapers Pravda and Izvestia. Although here I had my own trick - my grandfather wrote out the Ural Worker, and my father - Arguments and Facts.
    All the good days!
    1. Sergey1964
      Sergey1964 14 September 2021 06: 07
      +4
      Quote: Kote pane Kohanka
      Moreover, everyone had one source - Pionerskaya Pravda or Zvezdochka magazine. And only the advanced ones risked raising topics covered by the serious newspapers Pravda and Izvestia.

      There was also "International Panorama" on TV. Also a good source. I looked, then briefly recounted the main content in my own words - here is the ready-made political information.
    2. parusnik
      parusnik 14 September 2021 06: 21
      +4
      Asterisk, it was a literary almanac, poems and prose for children were printed.
      1. Kote Pan Kokhanka
        Kote Pan Kokhanka 14 September 2021 06: 25
        +2
        In the second half of the 80s, there was a page about the hardships of the indigenous people of America and Africa. In elementary school, it was going with a bang.
        1. parusnik
          parusnik 14 September 2021 06: 30
          +5
          I didn't read it in the second half of the 80s. smile More serious magazines Latin America, Asia and Africa today, subscribed from the first half of the 80s.
    3. Undecim
      Undecim 14 September 2021 07: 11
      +9
      Moreover, everyone had one source - Pionerskaya Pravda or Zvezdochka magazine. And only the advanced ones risked raising topics covered by the serious newspapers Pravda and Izvestia.

      The author did not risk it and stopped at the usual level of the Murzilka magazine.
      If I had risked and strained myself, I would have learned that the Battle of Mount Blair is one of the episodes of the Coal Wars - a series of armed uprisings by the miners of the Appalachians and Colorado, which lasted neither more nor less - about forty years, from the nineties of the XIX century to the thirties. years of the XX century and that it is possible to write a whole series of interesting articles about this, starting from the Battle of Coal Creek in 1891, when the miners of which are just 130 years old.

      Coal Creek miners storm Fort Anderson. 1892
      And yet, if the author had taken an interest in the question at least a little, he would not have written nonsense
      The dominance of the anti-communist labor bureaucracy in the labor movement and its political subordination of the working class to the US government had disastrous consequences not only for the miners, but for all workers.

      In reality, in the long term, the Coal Wars in general and the Battle of Blair in particular, for the American trade unions, had consequences that were completely opposite to those that the author writes about.
    4. 210ox
      210ox 14 September 2021 16: 21
      +3
      But I don’t remember what political information would have touched on this topic. Basically - the American military, Luis Carvalan and Salvador Allende, the Vietnam War.
    5. The comment was deleted.
  2. Sergey1964
    Sergey1964 14 September 2021 06: 03
    +6
    "The dominance of the anti-communist labor bureaucracy in the labor movement and its political subordination of the working class to the US government had disastrous consequences not only for the miners, but for all workers."

    It has not been deciphered what exactly these catastrophic consequences consisted of. That socialism was not built in the USA? The fact that the salary of a miner in the United States is now more than 270 thousand per month in terms of rubles (+ medical insurance and pension at the expense of the employer) against 43 thousand rubles. in Russia?
    (I took the data on salaries from several fluently googled resources, for Russian miners the salary fork is 30-70 thousand rubles, 70 thousand is in the Arctic).
    In general, the topic of "catastrophic consequences not only for miners, but for all workers" has not been disclosed, in my opinion.
    1. parusnik
      parusnik 14 September 2021 06: 40
      0
      The author, as always, did not understand the issue, squeezed out an article about the events, very briefly describing the reasons. The source is not clear, until I understand that it is not a textbook, something more serious, the publication was somewhere in the late 50s, 60s, in 70s was not much of a different style.
    2. Filxnumx
      Filxnumx 14 September 2021 07: 32
      +5
      the salary of a miner in the United States is now more than 270 thousand per month in terms of rubles

      won't it be difficult for you to convert the rent and the rest of the prices in the USA into rubles as well? For ease of comparison. Only not "the average for the hospital", but directly in the coal regions.
      1. Sergey1964
        Sergey1964 14 September 2021 17: 52
        +5
        Quote: Fil743
        won't it be difficult for you to convert the rent and the rest of the prices in the USA into rubles as well? For ease of comparison.

        Make up. Because this is labor, as you rightly noted. And today I have already worked my fill - at the request of a colleague, I did a rather tedious and time-consuming mathematical processing of her data. Nothing complicated, even multidimensional methods did not have to be involved - but a lot of data. Tired. And tomorrow we will have to process - but already different data. And for the day after tomorrow, I have planned a math processing of my own experiments ... So if you yourself answer your question and publish the answer here, I will be sincerely grateful.
    3. Looking for
      Looking for 14 September 2021 17: 25
      0
      or maybe, if it's not difficult to say how much interest remains for the miner after all taxes and credits have been paid.
    4. andybuts
      andybuts 14 September 2021 18: 09
      +3
      The fact that the salary of a miner in the United States is now more than 270 thousand per month in terms of rubles (+ medical insurance and pension at the expense of the employer) against 43 thousand rubles. in Russia?


      Why compare the salary in the USA now and the salary in Russia now and connect them with the events described in the article? And what has socialism to do with this difference, which came to us and did not come to the United States? Too different conditions and historical events have separated these countries over the past 100 years. And then compare this difference in PPP, and the difference in salary in Russia in 1919-20 and in the United States of the same years described in the article, with the current difference. I assure you that the dynamics will be in Russia's favor. Not least because of the transformations of the Soviet era.
      And if you want to say that capitalism has a clear advantage over socialism, then compare Russia, for example, with Haiti, the most capitalist country with a free market. Or with Argentina, which has not experienced socialism or destructive wars in the 1913th century, as in Russia, but despite its excellent starting positions (by 80, Argentina was the tenth richest country in the world in per capita terms), in terms of PPP GDP per capita seriously today it is inferior to Russia (and in the early XNUMXs, there was an even greater gap in the welfare of Soviet people and Argentines).

      Although the topic has not been disclosed, I agree
  3. parusnik
    parusnik 14 September 2021 06: 05
    +6
    In April 2008, Mount Blair was listed on the National Register of Historic Places. The Matwon Massacre is featured in the 1987 feature film "Matwon".
  4. Undecim
    Undecim 14 September 2021 06: 36
    +11
    composed mainly of Italian and Hungarian immigrants, Appalachians and former black sharecroppers from the South

    Author, Appalachians are not people, they are mountains, Appalachian Mountains.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 September 2021 06: 53
      +3
      If you do not delve into such trifles, then I liked the article. I did not even imagine that there could be massive armed protests in "prosperous America".
      The events of the first Russian revolution of 1905 were somewhat reminiscent.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 14 September 2021 07: 18
        +6
        If you do not delve into such little things

        If you don't delve into it, you get the level of "Murzilki".
        I did not even imagine that there could be massive armed protests in "prosperous America".

        The coal wars, one of the episodes of which the author described, continued in the United States for about forty years, from the 1890s to the 1930s.
        And it was thanks to them that America became really prosperous in terms of working conditions.
        1. The leader of the Redskins
          The leader of the Redskins 14 September 2021 07: 30
          +6
          This direction and layer of history has never been a priority for me. Moreover, Soviet basic education more often and more massively described the "Great Depression". So I had something new to learn.
        2. Alf
          Alf 14 September 2021 21: 45
          +2
          Quote: Undecim
          The coal wars, one of the episodes of which the author described, continued in the United States for about forty years, from the 1890s to the 1930s.

          It was then that the song Sixteen Tones sounded.
        3. Svidetel 45
          Svidetel 45 14 September 2021 23: 21
          +1
          It became prosperous thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, the ruling circles of the United States learned lessons from it.
          1. Sergey1964
            Sergey1964 15 September 2021 06: 19
            +3
            Quote: Svidetel 45
            It became prosperous thanks to the Great October Socialist Revolution, the ruling circles of the United States learned lessons from it.

            The article "Labor movement: from May Day to the crisis. How the trade union movement has changed since the events of May 1, 1886 in Chicago" (Vladimir Vaschenko, Gazeta.ru, May 01, 2017, 10:10) disagrees with you. Several quotes.
            The most striking example is the 1902 strike, in which 150 miners took part in the states of Pennsylvania, West Virginia, Alabama and Michigan, which ended in a compromise between workers and entrepreneurs. As a result of the intervention of President Theodore Roosevelt, miners' wages were increased by 10%, and an eight-hour working day was established.
            There are still 15 years before the October Revolution in Russia, and even before the First Russian Revolution of 1905, there are still 3 years - and the ruling circles of the United States are already making concessions to the workers.

            However, the actions of the trade unions did not always end in favor of the labor movement. In 1921, the authorities suppressed miners' protests with the help of armed National Guardsmen. In 1929, the most famous economic crisis in the history of the country began in the United States, later called the Great Depression. During it, workers' actions were repeatedly suppressed by force of arms, and sometimes private security firms were involved.
            October 1917 has long been behind us, and the ruling circles of the United States not only do not make concessions to the workers, but also suppress their actions by force of arms.

            In my opinion, the main role was played by the fact that the workers in the capitalist countries fought for their rights consistently and continuously for many decades. Like Mayakovsky
            Gradually, little by little, one tip at a time, one step at a time, today, tomorrow, in twenty years.
            In Mayakovsky, these words are uttered by a negative character - but this is how the working people in the Western countries achieved the observance of their rights. Continuous struggle since the 19th century. And they continue this struggle here and now. For example, here's the news from 2021
            Employees at McDonald's in the United States announced that they are ready to go on strike on May 19 demanding an increase in the minimum wage to $ 15 per hour. The corresponding statement was published on the website of the Action Network activists. “No employee should wait for Congress to raise the minimum wage to a fair value,” it said.
      2. mr.ZinGer
        mr.ZinGer 14 September 2021 07: 43
        +5
        "The devil is in the little things."
        Such trifles, and the author's style, have become his trademark. In general, the next issue of the school wall newspaper.
      3. Region-25.rus
        Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 08: 49
        +6
        already posted by the way recently. But once again about the same events. -
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 09: 43
          +5
          O! The adherents of the free market and the monarchy came running!))) Any objections on the topic? laughing Or just a minus and that's it? wink
      4. Sergey1964
        Sergey1964 14 September 2021 18: 03
        +3
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        I did not even imagine that there could be massive armed protests in "prosperous America".

        Well, America (and indeed the so-called West) became prosperous precisely because the people were not afraid to protest - including with arms in hand. ))
        1. Alf
          Alf 14 September 2021 21: 47
          0
          Quote: Sergey1964
          Quote: Leader of the Redskins
          I did not even imagine that there could be massive armed protests in "prosperous America".

          Well, America (and indeed the so-called West) became prosperous precisely because the people were not afraid to protest - including with arms in hand. ))

          Not only, but most importantly, because across the ocean from them lived and developed a state of a completely different system.
          1. Sergey1964
            Sergey1964 15 September 2021 05: 50
            +2
            Quote: Alf
            Not only, but most importantly, because across the ocean from them lived and developed a state of a completely different system.

            Not only overseas, but also in Europe. But both there, and there, the struggle of workers for their rights played in the formation of the current "Western-style" society (with guaranteed minimum wages, social security, and so on). When, instead of pitying letters upstairs and hunger strikes, they united in trade unions (real trade unions, not like in the USSR), staged demonstrations and strikes, seized enterprises, beat strikebreakers ...
            1. Alf
              Alf 15 September 2021 10: 15
              0
              Quote: Sergey1964
              But both there, and there, the struggle of workers for their rights played in the formation of the current "Western-style" society (with guaranteed minimum wages, social security, and so on).

              The class struggle in Western countries at the beginning and middle of the 20th century received such intensity only and precisely because there was a real example of a different state structure.
              1. Sergey1964
                Sergey1964 15 September 2021 10: 59
                +1
                Quote: Alf
                The class struggle in Western countries at the beginning and middle of the 20th century received such intensity only and precisely because there was a real example of a different state structure.

                They have had the intensity of the struggle since the 19th century, when even the revolution of 1905 in Russia did not even smell. Read the story of the May 1 holiday. And in the 20th century, when "there was already a real example of a different state structure," Western workers did not advocate for a state structure following the example of the USSR, but for more mundane things such as wages and working conditions.
                Incidentally, the advanced capitalists were also in favor of raising wages and improving working conditions for workers. Henry Ford is famous not only for its conveyors. He is also famous for the fact that he was one of the first to understand that in order for workers to work well, and so that there is no harmful turnover of personnel for production, one must pay a good salary (up to the participation of workers in the profits of the enterprise), and ensure good working conditions.
    2. Foul skeptic
      Foul skeptic 14 September 2021 17: 13
      0
      And people including Viktor Nikolaevich.
      1. Undecim
        Undecim 14 September 2021 20: 04
        +4
        And people including Viktor Nikolaevich.

        Those who are people, they are Apalachians, with one "l".
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 15 September 2021 08: 43
          +1
          And those that are mountains, they are with a capital letter "A". Given that there is just one "l" in the passage you are citing - you probably meant "p". There were recording forms (in the Russian interpretation), both with one "p" and with two. Encyclopedias like Brockhaus used one "p" in the Apalachian Indians, but the Apalachian mountains also had one "p". The 1939 Soviet edition of Edward Burnett Tylor's Primitive Culture in the index of tribes at the end of the book contains one letter "p" in the title, and the 1989 edition contains both one and two letters.
          I think we can agree on the fact that if the author of the article made a mistake in this passage, it was grammatical, not factual.
          1. Undecim
            Undecim 15 September 2021 10: 24
            +4
            I think we can agree that the author of the article, if he made a mistake

            The main mistake of the author is that he writes articles.
  5. sergo1914
    sergo1914 14 September 2021 06: 57
    +6
    ... Miners in West Virginia were also under the iron cap of the coal magnates, as well as the judges, police forces, and politicians who controlled them.


    HM. So I've been living in West Virginia for ten years now? Though not a miner.
    1. The leader of the Redskins
      The leader of the Redskins 14 September 2021 07: 32
      +2
      Rather, someone from the powerful decided not to reinvent the wheel, but to recall the "positive experience of Western partners ..."
  6. north 2
    north 2 14 September 2021 07: 23
    +3
    There are two main reasons for the drama under Matwon. The first is that the First World War is over, the demand for fossils has fallen, and wages have not kept pace with inflation. But during the First World War, miners and coal companies were happy with everything, which shows that for America, a war outside of its territory is only a blessing for America.
    The second is free access to weapons and these detective agencies with armed fighters. Tell me, what was there detective in the requirements of the miners, so that detectives would have to be sent there? Therefore, these armed detective agencies in the then America are nothing more than private security companies in modern Russia. So if in Russia the miners, of course without weapons, decide to hold a strike or build barricades, then armed private security officers hired by the mine owners will have to disperse them.
    Will you say that then the President of America used the army against the miners when there were few detectives? Well, after all, the then President of America did not have a national guard, as the current President of Russia does. So the Russian Army will not be tarnished by the suppression of strikes and strikes. There is someone to defend the rich and gentlemen in Russia without an army ... These are the centennial parallels that the miners get ...
    1. gsev
      gsev 15 September 2021 00: 28
      0
      Quote: north 2
      Well, after all, the then President of America did not have a national guard, as the current President of Russia does.

      The National Guard was created on the territory of the United States a century and a half before the formation of this state. Initially, the militia formations were intended to protect the colonists from the predatory attacks of the Indians. As the colonies developed, the functions and structure of the militia were transformed into the National Guard. If in the Vietnam War the US National Guard distanced itself from this dirty war, then in Afghanistan the National Guard already constituted a significant part of the occupation forces. Likewise, under Soviet rule, the militia was transformed into a modern National Guard. For example, a gang appeared in the vicinity of Kasimov during the civil war. Local residents organized themselves into a local defense unit and captured the gang. The bandits were disarmed and offered to try their luck by running to the forest. The Chonites began to shoot at the fleeing bandits. After that, the Chonites left the service and engaged in peaceful labor. Someone was shot, someone was pardoned. One of the surviving bandits went to serve in the NKVD and in the 30s contributed to the conviction of the Chonites, who destroyed his gang to be shot as enemies of the people. Former secretary of the regional committee B.N. Yeltsin, along with Burbolis, Shakhrai and Gaidar, decided to do as in the United States and transformed the internal troops into the National Guard, focusing on preparing it to fight unarmed protesters. The events of 1993 and then Messrs. Dudaev and Basayev forced the structure of the National Guard to be brought closer to the structure of the Stalinist NKVD units. So there is no big difference between the siloviki in Russia and the United States. For example, 25 special forces were recruited to disperse Trump's supporters in the Capitol, and only 000 fighters were evacuated to resist the Taliban in Kabul. Moreover, the US special forces fired at their citizens much more decisively than at the Taliban in the vicinity of Kabul airport.
  7. Avior
    Avior 14 September 2021 07: 28
    +5
    ... The dominance of the anti-communist labor bureaucracy in the labor movement and its political subordination of the working class to the US government had disastrous consequences not only for the miners, but for all workers.

    It seems that the author simply does not know. Everything was a little different
    In 1933, the National Industrial Recovery Act (NIRA) protected union rights and allowed union organization in southern West Virginia.
    1. Undecim
      Undecim 14 September 2021 08: 21
      +8
      the author just doesn't know

      This is the creative motto of the author.
  8. Olgovich
    Olgovich 14 September 2021 09: 37
    -3
    Dominance of the anti-communist labor bureaucracy in the labor movement and its political subordination of the working class to the US government had disastrous consequences not only for miners, but for all workers.
    look you: they have a "catastrophe", but they lived (ate, dressed, received money) an order of magnitude better than the workers and peasants in our country, where the communists won.

    And how the troops crushed (with artillery, airplanes, the threat of gas, concentration camps, hostages of relatives, blackmail) mass demonstrations of the indignant population at the same time in a "nogodny" country - no comparison with the United States, where people had, by the way , and real working trade unions and courts and lawyers.
    1. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 10: 32
      +4
      look you: they have a "catastrophe", but they lived (ate, dressed, received money) an order of magnitude better than the workers and peasants in our country, where the communists won.
      and indeed! What weapons did they take? Apparently out of boredom. They were furious with fat. Have fun like this laughing
      1. Sergey1964
        Sergey1964 14 September 2021 17: 59
        0
        Quote: Region-25.rus
        What weapons did they take? Apparently out of boredom.

        It's just that the countries of the so-called "West" are not used to rebelling on their knees. In style
        "The Russian people love to rebel! Kneel in front of the manor's house and stand, scoundrels! And they know that they are rebelling, and they still stand!" ((c) M.E.Saltykov-Shchedrin)
        They have a different historical background there, since the Middle Ages, when “The vassal of my vassal is not my vassal”. Well, in the USA and even more so - the Wild West, just a little - they are reaching for a Colt ...
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    3. Svidetel 45
      Svidetel 45 14 September 2021 23: 33
      -3
      And the brains are poorly turned on, when comparing the living standards of workers in the United States and in Russia, which went through a 1 mV skating rink, and then the Civil War and the intervention of 14 states, as well as the subsequent political and economic blockade of Russia by the world of capital? Probably, the zoological hatred of the Soviet past does not allow to turn on the brains.
      1. Olgovich
        Olgovich 15 September 2021 07: 49
        -2
        Quote: Svidetel 45
        And the brains are weak to turn on,

        so turn it on, finally!

        And maybe it will come when that is already in 1928 year , under the capitalist NEP, almost caught up with the indicators of 1913 for the consumption of food and clothing, but with the beginning of stupid collectivization, these indicators collapsed into the abyss and in 1937 the country was FASTING, and the people dying of hunger (see Istmath).

        Got it? fool
        Quote: Svidetel 45
        Probably, the zoological hatred of the Soviet past does not allow to turn on the brains.

        probably, the brain does not allow to include zoological hatred for Russia, ditched by this past.
        1. Foul skeptic
          Foul skeptic 15 September 2021 09: 49
          0
          And maybe it will come when, already in 1928, under the capitalist NEP

          How does it fit into your paradigm that under the capitalist NEP famine came to the cities in 1927, and the same collective farms in the same 1928 under the capitalist NEP already had more than 30 thousand and they showed better results in comparison with the private owner? Let's reduce everything to three questions:
          1) Was there a food crisis by 1928?
          2) There were collective farms during the NEP?
          3) During the NEP, did collective farms show higher marketability compared to private farms?
  9. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 14 September 2021 11: 26
    +2
    It seems that a piece has been torn out of the whole text. This is another
    composed mainly of Italian and Hungarian immigrants, Appalachians and former black sharecroppers from the South
    next difficulties with translation.
  10. The point
    The point 14 September 2021 12: 26
    +4

    And here is a more detailed analysis from the "Bulletin of the Buri" channel.
    1. Region-25.rus
      Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 12: 44
      +1
      boyan)) I am the first hi
      1. The point
        The point 14 September 2021 13: 06
        +2
        Yes, I noticed later. I recognize the primacy. good
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 13: 07
          +3
          I recognize the primacy
          so it does not matter! IDEA and history are important! wink hi
      2. Fat
        Fat 14 September 2021 17: 32
        +3
        Quote: Region-25.rus
        boyan)) I am the first

        The first is the first! I won’t lie, I didn’t look at any option 1, not 2 brain removal by students, even if they were not ready ... hi Vladimir, so "burn!" no way, better sausages (I don't want about cookies) store for supporters. When a person is kneaded for a couple of lines with 21 minutes of "truth" from the left channel ... This is an obscene word indicating the end of the event ... No offense, please ... but your pick with the "duplicator" suggests that you are engaged .. .. How did it happen that VO became a risky point? Didn't you share the buns?
        It's just ridiculous!
        Nevertheless Regards. I ask you, check the "vidos" that you offer to watch multiple times, otherwise my "Fu-U" for you, there the number of "teleloops" goes off scale for 20 percent ...
        P.S. Maybe ask for a review? ... but don't!
        And so the show succeeded drinks laughing laughing wassat
        P.P.S. Maxim, Vladimir, no offense ... Sincerely.
        1. Region-25.rus
          Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 18: 00
          +2
          there the number of "teleloops" is off scale for 20 percent ....
          as "point of entry" for those who have never heard of such an event NOT? Will it not work? Or was this option not considered? hi
          I've heard of course about such events. But I did not immerse myself in the topic (I confess), and it is difficult to know everything about everything. Because for the primary "immersion" in the events I think the very THAT.
          1. Fat
            Fat 14 September 2021 18: 34
            +4
            hi Vladimir. I never even considered haste as a virtue. It is much easier when you first state the thought yourself, and then illustrate with examples. You are not a student at a seminar with a "good" assistant, you are not a young manager at the first presentation ... (God forgive me)
            As for the texts of Vladimir Zyryanov, this quantity is at the expense of quality and there are many "fleas" at the same time. There is no need for him to rush, it can turn out quite well ... with time, on the other hand, time - for many - a luxury inaccessible ...
            P.S. VO is a wonderful site. If you don't have your own His point of view, support is bad. "Strangers do not go here. Law is taiga" (c)
            RenTV is a wonderful channel, I even "love" it, there is an entry point! But reliance on facts - "extremely insufficient", But also "Point of entry" fellow yes
            Where to? V fool Without the right to use a plug?
            1. Region-25.rus
              Region-25.rus 14 September 2021 18: 37
              +1
              RenTV
              I’m not a student, but I don’t think about “categories” (or extremes) for a long time. And to compare at least some young but no Marxist and trade union leader (not those who are on the salary of the state) and REN-TV are extremes. DO NOT compare which even I have enough tyama))))
              Or do you want to say that workers were not shot in the States? Well-known holiday "Spring and Labor" - May 1 as an example hi
              1. Fat
                Fat 14 September 2021 19: 18
                +3
                So often this is the very thing: day-night, black-white, cold-hot - "the unity and struggle of opposites" ...
                Quote: Region-25.rus
                To compare which even I have enough traction
                ...
                You might think that we all have the opportunity to understand the whole stream ... Dialectics ... "What never burned in the tank?" (with)
                One might think in the USSR they never shot at workers ...
                Sincerely
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 14 September 2021 19: 39
                  +2
                  They were shooting. The most famous is Novocherkassk.


                  Hi Andrew! hi
                  1. Fat
                    Fat 14 September 2021 19: 54
                    +2
                    hi Konstantin. Yes, perhaps the most "media" one. And Hungary, and Czechoslovakia already sideways?
                    Yes ... Probably, it is necessary to start from the "stove" with the Kronstadt "mutiny".
                    The authorities pressed the dissatisfied under any "regime", the "dictatorship" of the ruling class (or rather the "elite" of the ruling class) ...
                    And what's so surprising about that? Naturally and "lawfully" sad
                    1. Catfish
                      Catfish 14 September 2021 20: 20
                      +2
                      Well, there even before Kronstadt there were enough riots, but Kronstadt, of course, is significant - the same revolutionary brothers, and not a white counter, rebelled. laughing
                      1. Fat
                        Fat 14 September 2021 21: 30
                        +2
                        Yes. I do not like this period of OUR history. Too it is stained with blood. Yudenich did not run over Petrograd from scratch in 1919, there was something to rely on. In summary: The Bolsheviks defended power ...
                        And how Russian poetesses did not praise this white "feat" ...
                        "The past triumphs of victories flew away like light smoke. And you were faithful in advance - the leaders are not in power these days ... and the flames of violent rebellion will flood the autumn rains" (c) ... Z Gippius
                        "... Three hundred won - three!
                        Only the dead did not get up from the ground.
                        You were children and heroes
                        You could do everything ... "M. Tsvetaeva.
                        Former Semenovtsy one of the most elite security units of the "dictatorship" (the remnants of L.G.) piled under Yudenich ... "with banners and standards" ... he laid hands on himself out of resentment ... There, many, from the great "love of the rebels" since 30, were specifically cleaned up .... Surprisingly, the great-grandfather was acquitted, but it was too late ... "whatever ...
                        Grandma, that kind of S-Dechka ... Daughter of the "Green Caftan", in the family granted "imperial grace", So her brother, himself a worker of top qualifications, three times "exercise" from the Factory to Perm did ...
                        Well, HOW can you figure it out in this mess?
                        A little military, a little bit of a gunsmith, a bit of a European-Tatar (as without this).
                        Well, how not to catch "hee-hee"?
                        But there is no desire! Only now "Everything was .. (not! ...) was done before Us" and for us I take it almost literally
                      2. Catfish
                        Catfish 14 September 2021 21: 59
                        +2
                        Yes, it has long been common practice to pour blood on any fire in power.

                        I am far from sympathetic to any group, but the tanks are already overkill.
                      3. Fat
                        Fat 14 September 2021 22: 33
                        +2
                        My father was very sick, they didn't even talk to him ... I was with him.
                        But my "little friend" from school was just there on a business trip.
                        I told him. Moreover, I understand WHO was "defending" the White House at that time, except for the named Compromisers ....
                        Honestly? If I had a chance to catch someone, it would not have done without good guidance, in the best version ... I'd rather report it in a personal, than to make public what then were the "national-Bolshevik" rumors .... Groupings - exactly! from the criminal code ... then even still ... still Soviet - bandits.
                        Do you see why they merged so quickly? Realized that nothing will stick even if you go to the "bitter end"
                        Anyone will find such "allies" in the future .... Let's go "gray ways". We must pay tribute to Boris E. - he left “such power” on time, he should have done it earlier, but it happened ...
                        We drink, we still drink ... When will all these curtsies end ...
                      4. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 06: 45
                        +1
                        hi Not too much, Konstantin. Snipers are much worse. It is good that they were clearly "extinguished" ... Evil and with a hint ... "Do not break the convention, otherwise there will be no mercy" In the case of other flower revolutions, snipers made future "victims of the bloody regime" almost fearless. stop
                      5. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 07: 06
                        +1
                        Andrey, I don’t remember that at least one of the snipers there was seen by anyone, not to mention that one of them was “extinguished”. Then they found the beds, and not one, but no people. I was there, on Smolenka, a stone's throw from this bedlam, then I talked with the cops with my acquaintances, i.e. infa something was, but for snipers - zero.
                      6. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 07: 20
                        +1
                        Konstantin. I personally was not there, but I trust my friend, who was there, When suddenly people from the crowd of onlookers began to fall on the "showdown" the time was "zero". And the commander who allowed fire to destroy the firing points is right. Nobody, as always, "saw" the snipers ... But they knew that there would be and there were craftsmen who would shoot at the crowd ... The decision was correct.
                      7. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 07: 29
                        +1
                        And I’m not saying that they didn’t shoot from the rooftops, but they could just as well shoot from the windows of technical floors and, in general, from any window. And the fact that the onlookers were shooting, in my opinion, is correct, not shit, they found entertainment to watch people being killed. Reduced the number of idiots and then bread with a few shots. And from the White House they also fired through the streets, from the side of the embankment he ran across the lane to the Smolenskaya metro station, which is on the outer radius of the Garden Ring. I waited around the corner, it calmed down, and rushed across the road, and towards the opposite, from the opposite corner, people were galloping too, these were already home from the metro.
                      8. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 07: 52
                        +1
                        I understand and accept. Sometimes I compare 2013 in Kiev and 1993 ... All "opposing sides" learn quickly ...
                        According to Bernstein: "Great achievements require two things: a plan of action and a lack of time" ...
                      9. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 08: 09
                        +1
                        Yes. smile "Any plan exists before the first shot." (c) Napoleon, if I am not mistaken, although Schlieffen was sure of the exact opposite.
                      10. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 08: 24
                        +1
                        Come on ... Today Likhodeev is in the state of Styopa. "At least shoot ..." wassat
                      11. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 09: 22
                        +1
                        I sympathize, but ... "Like cures like." smile drinks
                      12. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 09: 58
                        +1
                        "I don't have a hangover until lunchtime" (c)
                        laughing drinks I went to Sergei Linnik. It's great that he sometimes "hangs over" .... (I'm talking about the article, as you understand).
                        With respect.
                      13. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 10: 01
                        +1
                        Sergei has talent, you will climb into his reading material and forget about all the ailments. A man knows how to work.
                      14. Fat
                        Fat 16 September 2021 10: 04
                        +1
                        Agree!!! But it's better to support it on a branch.
                      15. Catfish
                        Catfish 16 September 2021 10: 05
                        +1
                        It goes without saying.
  • Altmann
    Altmann 14 September 2021 17: 31
    +1
    The article is written succinctly. Maybe this is a translation, but for us, the so-called "Eastern Bloc", the article is a little incomprehensible, you personally see that the whole article has been edited, and I do not like it.
    1. Fat
      Fat 14 September 2021 21: 43
      +1
      hi Ladislav ... Laconic? "Brevity is not always the sister of talent!" (c) .... The article is generally poorly understood for those who are native to Russian ... We have recently discussed whether Russian is Russian mat ... Any thoughts? wassat Of course, the article has been edited - I would have more than enough hundreds of signs, for feelings and simple thoughts, in the topic of course, not without context, of course wassat
  • Operator
    Operator 15 September 2021 14: 59
    0
    The meaning of the armed conflict between the owners of coal mines and miners in the United States was that the former wanted to preserve the semi-slave working conditions of the latter, which had developed before the start of the Great October Socialist Revolution in Russia - low wages there, a ban on joining trade unions, huge rent for living in private mining villages (essentially concentration camps), large markups on goods in private stores, terror from private security agencies.

    The American government sided with the coal mine owners using the army. The conflict was settled by the Great Depression and the ensuing oil boom, which eliminated coal mining in the United States.
  • polygraph balls
    polygraph balls 15 September 2021 19: 26
    0
    freedom to angela davis!