201st military base in Tajikistan reinforced with modern tanks

The Russian military base in Tajikistan will be further strengthened amid the events in Afghanistan, the Ministry of Defense has decided to replace tanks... This was reported by the press service of the Central Military District.

A separate tank battalion of the 201st military base in Tajikistan will receive modern tanks that will replace the earlier modifications currently in service. In total, the base will receive 30 new modern machines, delivery will be made by the end of the year. True, there is no information about what kind of tanks we are talking about, but with a high probability it will be T-72B3M, since the base is armed with T-72.

Note that after the seizure of power in Afghanistan by the Taliban * (the movement is banned in Russia as a terrorist movement), the Russian Ministry of Defense began to actively strengthen the Russian military base in Tajikistan. Recently, the base received a batch of modernized BMP-2M, Mi-8-MTV5-1 helicopters, weapon, ATGM "Cornet" and flamethrowers. Replacement of tanks is now expected.

In addition, the military department made a decision on additional protection of armored vehicles of the 201st military base. All infantry fighting vehicles and armored personnel carriers will receive lattice screens capable of covering vehicles from cumulative grenade launcher shots.

The 201st Russian military base, stationed in Tajikistan, is the largest Russian military facility in the region.

Comments

[svp67]

True, there is no information about what kind of tanks we are talking about, but with a high probability it will be T-72B3M, since the base is armed with T-72.

Well, at least something ... Although this is where Terminators and Solntsepeki are very much needed ... This is what needs to be delivered there now.

[carstorm 11]

What for? You only try to protect them. There will be quite enough Grads. And what are the Terminators to do there?

[Nexcom]

Yes, against barmaley in dressing gowns and slippers - "Terminator" will do just fine.
Although they also have ATGMs and they know how to use them.
And the RPG-7 made in China is generally immeasurable.

[Graz]

there is no need for a terminator, there is more something like a self-propelled mortar needed. in principle, some sunshine or pinocchio would not hurt either

[Nexcom]

And stop the mined car of the suicide bomber with a mortar too? you still need to get into it from a mortar. and the Terminator will make a colander out of it at a decent distance in 5 seconds.

[bayard]

Quote: Graz

no terminator is needed there, there is more something like a self-propelled mortar

Actually, the Terminator development program was started based on the experience of the war in Afghanistan. We needed a highly protected (!) Armored vehicle with automatic / automatic cannons capable of shooting from a high elevation - lifting the barrel almost vertically. So for action in the mountains, "Terminator" will be just that. He also has ATGMs, which can be used not only against tanks.
And "Sloncepёk" would not hurt either. But not always - for most cases, Grad is enough.

[Troll]

Terminator, EMNIP, the vehicle covering these same tanks, and Solntsepek, this is a "Katyusha" hitting the squares. # This is different.

[Nexcom]

The Terminator will do well to bring down jihad mobile cars and light armored cars. Barmaley now have plenty of them thanks to the escaped amers. IMHO

[Troll]

The mountains of Tajikistan, not desert Syria, there is no place for jihad machines.

[Nexcom]

Do you want to say they don't put heavy machine guns on pickups there? I doubt.

[Troll]

They do not. In Tajikistan, today there are no barmaley.

[Nexcom]

I did not mean that there are barmaley in Tajikistan right now.
I assumed that the barmaley could begin to break through from Afghanistan. Although I may have been mistaken.

[Troll]

In Tajikistan itself, of course, there are densely populated valleys where you can walk around. But the border with Afghanistan is mountains. Mountain river, on both sides of the mountain and along the river border.
Sometimes the river, especially in the places of confluence with other rivers, becomes widespread, in such places there are villages both on that and on this side of the border. But in general, there are mountains accessible only by foot and horse-drawn transport.

[Nexcom]

clear. Well, yeshakas loaded with explosives will be thrashed.
just kidding.

PS Then it turns out there and the tanks are not particularly needed.

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

There is nothing to do there without tanks, only they can withstand prolonged exposure to heavy machine guns, mortars and mobile rocket launchers. And self-propelled guns such as "Carnation" or "Acacia" have weak armor, so that they can replace tanks.

[Shket53]

Hello. Ummm ... a little disagree with you. There (in Tajikistan, and in Uzbekistan) there are more than enough of these "sleeping" barmalees. The only question is when will they ... wake up. I think it would not be a bad thing to strengthen the air component, in the form of a squadron of Su-25 attack aircraft, and a couple of Mi-24 Crocodile units. Sincerely

[Troll]

"Sleepers", dissatisfied with the authorities and ready to take up arms and kill their own kind, are in all countries.

[Shket53]

Hmm ... well, let's just say ... I'm also unhappy with food prices, and prices for housing and communal services, electricity, etc. but this does not mean that I am a "sleeping" who is ready to take up arms and kill their own kind, just because I don't like something. You know, although I am in reserve, but still a former military man, and I understand perfectly well that the war ... this is not a movie with Schwarzenegger, where everyone is piled up to the right and left, and where the cartridges do not end if you are there (war) there were, you know what, it was blood, pain from dead comrades, and very hard work. Sincerely

[venik]

Quote: Troll

The mountains of Tajikistan, not desert Syria, there is no place for jihad machines.

========
You might think that Syria is a desert, flat as a plate and there are no mountains ... And "jihadmobiles" can only ride in the desert ...
Aha

[svp67]

Quote: Nexcom

Terminator will do well to bring down jihad mobile cars and light armored cars

And also "work" where the maximum angles of elevation of the weapon are required

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

Then you should familiarize yourself with the elevation angle of the 30mm guns at the Terminator, it will be news to you.

[Nexcom]

HV angles, deg. −5 ... 45
Isn't that enough?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

For mountain conditions somehow not very good.

[svp67]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

Then you should familiarize yourself with the elevation angle of the 30mm guns at the Terminator,

from -5 to +45 degrees ... Do you want to compare them with the tank?

[Sergey Aleksandrovich]

I just want to remind you that for the BMP-2 it is +74 degrees, for the BTR-80 and BMP-3 +60 degrees.

[svp67]

Quote: Sergey Alexandrovich

I just want to remind you that the BMP-2 has +74 degrees.

But with one 30mm and 7,62mm barrel. And the "Terminator" is much better with this

[TatarinSSSR]

I will try to explain. The Terminator is not a stationary powered point. To fight, he needs power and a running engine, so as not to become an ATGM target himself. Keeping such a car running for days in the parapet near the checkpoint or base, in anticipation of a jihad of mobiles, is not serious. Also, the overview of the Terminator commander is very uninformative. It is only good for a certain sector. In fact, the BMPT seeks and destroys a target for target designation from MBT tankers, protecting them from infantry and RPGs, suppressing enemy firing points and armored vehicles precisely in a combined-arms battle along the front on the move. As a station against jihad of mobiles, it is ineffective and, in its own way, even redundant. An experienced shooter with an ATGM will much faster detect and hit the jihad mobile from the checkpoint than the BMPT crew.

[Shket53]

Good day. Yes, you are right BMPT needs power so that it is a full-fledged combat unit, and not a pile of scrap metal .... perhaps it will be possible to connect the BMPT to an external (remote) source ... well, for example, to a compact DG (diesel generator) and then problems with power supply will be resolved, and the motor resource will not be wasted. What about finding BMPT at checkpoints ... it seems to me an excessive decision, and here I completely agree with you. Sincerely

[svp67]

Quote: Troll

Terminator, EMNIP, cover vehicle for these very tanks

Of course ... Just like the BMP - purely "bus" ... In those conditions, BMPT armament is more preferable than tank armament.

Quote: Troll

and Solntsepek is a "Katyusha" hitting the squares. They won't replace tanks.

The blow of "Solntsepek" is able to replace all ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: svp67

The blow of "Solntsepek" is able to replace all ...

And if, in connection with the replacement of "Tornado" by "Tornado", send a division of "Tornadoes" there? The firing range is up to 120 km and thermobaric ammunition is available ...

[Peak]

Quote: svp67

that's where the Terminators are badly needed

Recently I came across an opinion voiced by a source in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that the name "Terminator", despite the fact that it is "rooted", should be changed to a more Russian one ...
The name "Ilya Muromets" or "Mоnomach "...

[Nexcom]

You know, whatever you call it, the main thing is that it is effectively used and there are no losses.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: PiK

As an option, the name "Ilya Muromets" or "Manomakh" was suggested ...

Maybe - MONOMACH?

[Peak]

Quote: ROSS 42

Maybe - MONOMACH?

Thank you for your comment - corrected ACHEPYatku.

[svp67]

Quote: PiK

should change

Here's how to change ...

[V1er]

The project already has a Russian name "Frame". A previous project of the same type was called "The Viper".

[EvilLion]

Oh, nafig, we in Russia love Arnie, as it were, no more than in the USA.
And terminator is also an astronomical term.

[Grits]

Quote: PiK

Recently I came across an opinion voiced by a source in the Ministry of Defense of the Russian Federation that the name "Terminator", despite the fact that it is "rooted", should be changed to a more Russian one ...
As an option, the name "Ilya Muromets" or "Monomakh" was suggested ...

Late - the name has already taken root

[Kuz]

Earlier it was said that at 201 bases they replace T-90A with T-72B3

[Hermann]

It was said about the 7th base in Abkhazia.

[Kuz]

Exactly. Confused

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: svp67

Well, at least something ... Although this is where Terminators and Solntsepeki are very much needed ... This is what needs to be delivered there now.

And helicopters and aviation are much more convenient. Presumptive actions of the opposing side - penetration on the ground (along mountain paths), long-range artillery (possibly "Coalition") and aircraft capable of covering distances in a short period of time.

[Dikson]

Aviation there will be burned for not doing figs .. Mountains ..

[svp67]

Quote: ROSS 42

And helicopters and aviation are much more convenient.

This is subject to flying weather, and their response time is much higher, but shock-reconnaissance UAVs, the same Orions, Altiuses will do just fine, and a gunship based on the Il-114 would not be superfluous ...

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: svp67

but shock-reconnaissance UAVs, the same "Orions", "Altius" are just suitable

Sour here on the sofa - completely out of my head ...

[Grits]

Quote: svp67

and the "gunship" based on the Il-114 would not be superfluous ...

But there is no such thing ... we are smarter than the Americans - why do we need gunships?

[Alexander Seklitsky]

It seems to me that the unit with the Orions would be better. Unit 20. If the babakhs will crawl over the mountains, and on the goat paths it’s very good to disorganize them with accurate strikes. Well, 24/7 reconnaissance is also good.

[st2st]

Namesake, "Solnepeki" and "Buratino" are melee weapons, if the Taliban trample into Tajikistan, 201 VB - simply, the khan. Then, of course, Lavrov will express concern, but, guys, there will be no more

[YOUR]

Not enough? Total battalion

[Aaron Zawi]

Quote: YOUR

Not enough? Total battalion

Well, do not forget that 201 base is a strengthening of the Tajik army. And Tajikistan, in contrast to the same Afghanistan, is an established state.

[YOUR]

It should not be forgotten that there are only 9 million people in Tajikistan, of which at least 1.5 million people of draft age leave to work in Russia, it should not be forgotten that in Tajikistan the Taliban's ideas find their followers in fairly large numbers. We should not forget that the Taliban have been fighting for at least 20 years, during this time they have gained such combat experience that any army will envy. It should not be forgotten that the Americans leaving Afghanistan gave them equipment and weapons worth $ 85 billion, for comparison, the Russian military budget is $ 65.1 billion.
The Armed Forces of Tajikistan 8 800 people, the National Guard -7 500, in the reserve -15 000. Having mobilized everything that is possible, Tajikistan will be able to put a little more than 31 thousand people into operation. When, at the most conservative estimates, the Taliban forces are up to 70, these are the ones under arms, they are actively creating a mobilization reserve. Constant teachings. Every year, those in reserve are called up for 000 months and not like our term to serve. The exercises are intense.
Our 201 military base is 7000 people. In general, the only force in Tajikistan that can resist the Taliban in the event of an attack.
Something like that.

[your1970]

Quote: YOUR

which persons of draft age in the amount of at least 1.5 million people leave to work in Russia,

NOT to - but FROM Russia ..
As soon as the dollar jumped, they slowly began to leave. Salaries became lower in dollars and it became unprofitable for them to work here. Now, in fact, only those who are hoping for Russian citizenship have remained here ...

[YOUR]

They work at construction sites. In the Amur Region, at the construction site of a gas processing plant and a petrochemical plant, they are already plowing under 70. And there are enough such refineries in Russia.

[your1970]

Quote: YOUR

70 000

cut zero ... 70 thousands working at the same construction site - too much.
Before its dispersal, the FMS recorded a massive outflow of migrants from the Russian Federation. Yes, I saw it myself. Previously, buses were transported through us to the Russian Federation, and after 2008 and especially after 2014, they practically did not go from there - the buses went there.
Read about the camps on the border in Orenburg last year - they all left, Kazakhstan closed the border with the Russian Federation. Our vegetable farmers howl for the second year - no Central Asians

[YOUR]

In 2000, the governor, speaking after NG on TV, called the figure more than 40. He happily told us that we are giving so many jobs. Only locals are practically not taken. It was built by the Svobodnensky GPP. Completion date 000
From the same year, they began to build a gas chemical plant (gas chemical plant). There, about the same number were brought in by the main contingent of Tajiks and Uzbeks.
So it’s not overkill, rather undersupply.

[your1970]

Quote: YOUR

В 2000 Governor

-??

Quote: YOUR

It was built by the Svobodnensky GPP. Deadline 2024 Mr.

- ??
Construction work began on October 14 2015 The plant was launched on June 9, 2021

Quote: YOUR

40 000.

The work involved about 16 thousand people and 2 thousand units of construction equipment.

Number of jobs - about 3000... The plant area is 800 hectares.

[YOUR]

I live in Blagoveshchensk and I do not know how things are going on construction from Wikipedia. Moreover, you managed to read the first paragraph and immediately thoughtlessly posted it. Read on. And figure out what 3000 jobs are.

[your1970]

Quote: YOUR

I live in Blagoveshchensk and I do not know how things are going on construction from Wikipedia. Moreover, you managed to read the first paragraph and immediately thoughtlessly posted it. Read on. And figure out what 3000 jobs are.

Persuaded .... Since your governor cannot give the exact dates and the number of places - either 40, or 000, I feel sorry for the inhabitants of your region. He is clearly not the strongest business executive ...
Well, God bless him ...
3 even if they are shift workers and gaster - this is not a masterpiece, but not bad for the region. Products, services, booze, housing - some amount of money will enter the region's turnover

[YOUR]

Indeed, 2000 is .... this is just a slip of the tongue, 2020.
The rest try to figure out what is the difference between building a factory and a factory worker.
Although, I will explain.
Builders are those people who build a plant - BUILD. The workers of the plant are those who will work there after which the builders will build the plant and put it into operation.
A large microdistrict is being built for the workers of the plant. Delivery of houses in 2023. Good microdistrict, behind a double fence, on top of the railroad car goes so that local aborigines do not crawl through.
The plant is not yet operational. Although it is written that 2 lines have been commissioned, not a single cubic meter of gas has yet been produced. For it is not transported in any way. There are no gas carriers on the roads, there is no pipeline, naturally to China. There is nothing.

[your1970]

Quote: YOUR

Builders are the people who build a factory - BUILD.

Only here DEFINITIONS in the amount of net - either 40, or 000 are being built ...

Quote: YOUR

The workers of the plant are those who will work there after which the builders will build the plant and put it into operation.

Quote: your1970

The number of jobs is about 3000.

Quote: YOUR

... And figure out what 3000 jobs are.

Quote: your1970

3 even if they are shift workers and gaster - this is not a masterpiece, but not bad for the region. Products, services, booze, housing - some amount of money will enter the region's turnover

[YOUR]

Only here are DEFINITIONS in the amount of net - either 40, or 000 are building ...

I don’t know the exact figure. Let me explain. In January 2020, the governor announced the figure of 40 in his New Year's chi. But this is only for the construction of a gas processing plant. In the same year, they began to build a gas chemical plant (gas chemical plant). The construction is no less large-scale. Charters arrive every day. Every day, buses are taken from the Annunciation airport, a column of 000 - 10 buses. In addition to charters, they arrive by regular planes. They also travel by train.
Probably the construction managers themselves do not know the exact figure.
But Svobodny will definitely soon be renamed into some kind of Caravanserai, how many of them are there .... families go for Russian citizenship. Eateries, restaurants, various kiosks, mainly for the sale of fruits and vegetables. And this despite the fact that very few of them are released from the territory of construction sites. They built prefabricated houses and entire cities there. To produce even less, shops were built on the territory of these cities.
And so just for fun. Type in a search engine a riot at the Svobodnenskiy gas processing plant.
They were not paid some extra payment on time. We got up. The speed of payment was amazing. And our doctors were invited there, during the quarantine with a promise to pay 120 thousand a month, paid 12 and thrown out. Motivated by the fact that there were few patients. When they tried to be indignant, they were included in some kind of black list. This is also available on the amurinfo website.

[EvilLion]

Almost all of this equipment is jeeps and trucks, unsuitable for combat. They are powerless against helicopters, against tanks too. This does not take into account how the Taliban cross the river on the only bridge.

[YOUR]

Tell this to the Americans.

[Alexander Seklitsky]

Quote: YOUR

We shouldn't forget that the Taliban have been fighting for at least 20 years.

And what are their military operations behind them? 20 years against amers partisan? And before that, against our army.

[YOUR]

They did not partisan against our army. The Taliban appeared after the withdrawal of Soviet troops from Afgan. In this matter, as we see, you do not own information.
They fought mainly against their own army, and we do not know what operations were or were not. They were not covered by our media.
But we saw the result well.

[Humpty]

Quote: Aron Zaavi

Tajikistan, in contrast to the same Afghanistan, is an established state.

Yeah. Like a healed horse and a forgiven wolf.

[Shket53]

Do you seriously believe in the combat effectiveness of the Tajik army ... all that is combat-ready ... is a separate battalion of special forces ... everything else ... these are dekhanes called up on an urgent basis, who will flee to their homes in case of a real mess, and they will go for this very army ... the same Tajiks, only Afghan. By the way, there are 2 (two) times more Tajiks in Afghanistan than in Tajikistan itself, and they are united and the more motivated they are much better. Our leadership would need to make, or rather revive, 201 motorized rifle division of 201 infantry from the 15000 base, which it used to be, since the "soft underbelly" of Russia, apart from this baa, has no one to defend. All these super independent countries of Central Asia with all their armies will be swept away by the Taliban if they trample on them. This is while they have euphoria from the seizure of power, while the carve-up of the "tasty things" that they got from the Yankees, while the carve-up of portfolios ... but when everything settles down ... then where will these "brave" guys direct their eyes .... just Allah alone knows. Sincerely

[Hermann]

So there is a base-motorized rifle brigade.

[Flooding]

Quote: Herman

So there is a base-motorized rifle brigade.

not this way
the base was formed on the basis of a motorized rifle brigade
but significantly strengthened and replenished

[Hermann]

It is only reinforced by a helicopter squadron and an S-300 battalion, maybe there is something else, but infantry for a motorized rifle brigade.

[Flooding]

Quote: Herman

maybe there is something else

division MLRS Hurricane

[Pandiurin]

When a military base is reinforced with modern weapons, that's great.
But most likely there is no strong need in military terms, against the threat from Afghanistan (a massive offensive by the Taliban or some sort of izil sallies).

There are probably two factors:

- The US offers "protection from terrorism" to the Central Asian republics by placing its bases, intelligence centers, etc. Proposals are persistent, with a stick, a carrot, money, I use my people in opposition.

- there is a request from Tajikistan for concern in connection with the events in Afghanistan and a desire to strengthen the military component on the border.

These two factors may coincide in an undesirable way, the Americans will come.
So it turns out that they strengthened the base and reassured Tajikistan.

[Sergey1964]

Quote: Pandiurin

So it turns out that they strengthened the base and reassured Tajikistan.

If you believe those professional orientalists whose opinions I have read (and there is no reason not to believe), there is no threat of a military invasion of Tajikistan from Afghanistan. Ideology infiltration and contagious example threaten - "It turns out that with the help of Allah it is quite possible to overthrow the government, even if this government has a well-equipped army and police."
In terms of PPP GDP per capita, Tajikistan is in 188th place out of 225, behind Honduras, Nicaragua, Nigeria, Sudan, Kenya ... That is, there are many really poor people, and modern Islamic groups are actively promoting an ideology that is very attractive to the poor. Social justice, fight against corruption, uniform law (Sharia) for all ...
And against ideology, tanks and guns are powerless. Suffice it to recall how the invaders in 1919 hurriedly withdrew their troops from the Crimea after some of the French warships raised red flags. So Emomali Rahmon is not worried for nothing.

[EvilLion]

Social justice, fight against corruption, one law for all ...

All this was in Tajikistan until 1991.

[Sergey1964]

Quote: EvilLion

All this was in Tajikistan until 1991.

It's funny. There was no such thing in the RSFSR (I remember my shock when I accidentally ended up in the cafeteria not even for the party, but for the trade union elite), but was it in Tajikistan?

[askort154]

Judging by the photo, the author of the article is stressed with photographs of tanks?

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: askort154

Judging by the photo, the author of the article is stressed with photographs of tanks?

Judging by the picture, the author has few necessary ones: T-72 B3M in Tajikistan (against the background of the mountains).

[V1er]

I will also put in my 5 kopecks. Reconnaissance and strike drones would be very useful there. The bigger, the better.

[avg avg]

Your opinion will be forwarded to the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces. And then the men don't know about it!

[Castro Ruiz]

Correct step.

[Miail]

Show how a tank can withstand a modern American grenade launcher. American tanks cannot withstand beards and sandals.

[p0pulivox]

Quote: Sergey1964

Quote: EvilLion

All this was in Tajikistan until 1991.

It's funny. There was no such thing in the RSFSR (I remember my shock when I accidentally ended up in the cafeteria not even for the party, but for the trade union elite), but was it in Tajikistan?

Let's say it was imperfect. Has it really gotten better (in terms of social justice) ?!