NSDC Secretary of Ukraine: Ukrainian troops are able to take Donetsk and Lugansk

The secretary of the Ukrainian NSDC (Council of National Security and Defense) Oleksiy Danilov once again raised the issue that Donetsk and Lugansk "can be taken by the Ukrainian security forces." This question was raised during the discussion in one of the political programs on the Ukrainian channel "1 + 1".

According to Danilov, the Ukrainian army "is capable of performing any task."

Secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council:

I want to remind you that our intelligence is carrying out such operations that other countries would not have dared to undertake.

Are you talking about a failed operation with the so-called "Wagner group" in the Republic of Belarus?

Raising the question of whether a military operation could be carried out in Donetsk and Lugansk, Danilov gave an affirmative answer on the air of Ukrainian TV. According to him, "Ukrainian troops are capable of taking Donetsk and Lugansk, if such a task is set by the Supreme Commander."

Danilov:

They can do it.

It is important to note that Danilov used the word “take” when he was thinking about the military operation against the LPNR. At the same time, the Secretary of the National Security and Defense Council of Ukraine added that "we must understand that something will need to be done with hundreds of thousands of people who may die." Danilov asked a rhetorical question in the studio: "Who will be responsible?"

According to the secretary of the Ukrainian NSDC, he condemns those who criticize the fighting efficiency of the Ukrainian army:

It's just that such people themselves were not at the front.

This is the whole point: whoever was at the front, who managed to get out of the boilers near Debaltseve and Ilovaisk, understands the real "fighting efficiency" of the Ukrainian army and its real readiness to go into battle.

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[Don karleone]

Autumn aggravation. Military, gas, and TD. Etc

[Uncle lee]

Donetsk and Lugansk "can be taken by the Ukrainian security forces"

They may or may not take! And if they take it, then there will be no living space left, as well as people.

[Peak]

NSDC Secretary of Ukraine: Ukrainian troops are able to take Donetsk and Lugansk

Quote from Uncle Lee

They may or may not take!

Pans have lost touch with reality altogether

[Egoza]

Quote: PiK

Pans have lost touch with reality altogether

Let them first count the deserters and their losses, combat and non-combat, and then talk about the "army". Everyone is waiting for the order of the "Commander-in-Chief". Who will go forward? Something is not heard about the "heroic brothers-in-arms" from Azov and other "structures". In general, it turns out interestingly. There is an army that is subordinate to the commander-in-chief and there are "Svidomo groups" that are not subordinate to him. And with such a composition, are you still going to "take" someone? Nothing will come of them.

[Peak]

Quote: Egoza

Something is not heard about the "heroic brothers-in-arms" from Azov and other "structures".

Apparently "Dung" was smart enough to understand that it is more profitable (and safer) to protect and hold protests than to have the prospect of a bullet in the "fifth point"? ....

[The black]

And I can take by storm the NATO headquarters ... or I can not take ... The wet dreams of the Ukrovermacht are realizable only on their headquarters maps ...

[Peak]

Quote: Black

And I can storm the NATO headquarters ...

And I, and I ... Better keep silent about my intentions and capabilities otherwise they will be banned

[EwgenyZ]

I remembered Grachev, with his "airborne regiment, which can take Grozny in two hours."

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Uncle Lee

They may or may not take! And if they take it, then there will be no living space left, as well as people.

I think the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able to take and "clean up" Donbass, provided that the Russian Federation does not intercede. But even without the Russian Federation, the Armed Forces of Ukraine will suffer the same losses in the Donbass as we do in the PChV.

[venik]

Quote: Lara Croft

I think the Armed Forces of Ukraine are able to take and "clean up" Donbass, provided that the Russian Federation does not intercede.

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Key words in this thesis: "if the Russian Federation does not intercede.... ". And the RF - intercede! As it was already in Abkhazia and South Ossetia, and in the same Donbass in 2014!
So all these "waving sabers" remain what they are in essence: nothing more than verbal chatter and self-hypnosis ...

[Lionnvrsk]

Quote: Lara Croft

I think the Ukrainian Armed Forces are able to take and "clean up" Donbass

They are probably capable of trying to take, but even brains deformed by pots understand that this will be a XNUMX% chance of losing Kuev.

[Looking for]

and who will let them?

[vik669]

There will be no living place left, as well as people - and not only there, but right up to the Polish border, this can happen! Denikin was about to take Voronezh - give up uncle or you'll drop it!

[Peak]

Quote: Don Karleone

Autumn aggravation. Military, gas, and TD. Etc

RџSЂRё definite diagnosis , such seasonal exacerbations - "spring-autumn" are typical

And one mantra repeats itself, spring-autumn 2021 - "We will take Donbass"...

[Evil543]

Why not include the Armed Forces, SBU and GUR of UsRusi in the list of terrorist organizations for the terrorist attacks in Donbass?

[knn54]

Apparently intelligence reports on the tension within the Ukrainian society.
There are two options: martial law or quarantine, as the "highest degree" of lockdown.

[Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov]

We missed the boilers ...

[Mountain shooter]

Quote: Vladimir Vladimirovich Vorontsov

We missed the boilers ...

Rather, he is not a military man. He did not survive the nightmare of boilers ukrovermacht. And I simply did not understand the warning about the "loss of statehood" from the GDP ... Well, not given.

[kamarada]

But if for such a chatter an ice ax would inevitably fly. Then the next chatterbox would have restrained his verbal diarrhea.

[Lech from Android.]

All this is empty, as are the trips on the Abrams on Red Square.

[Vladimir_2U]

I want to remind you that our intelligence is carrying out such operations that other countries would not have dared to undertake.
Are you talking about a failed operation with the so-called "Wagner group" in the Republic of Belarus?

Rather, about the murders of significant figures of the LDNR militia.

[tihonmarine]

Quote: Vladimir_2U

Rather, about the murders of significant figures of the LDNR militia.

This is no longer "intelligence", but ordinary Bandera terrorists.

[svp67]

I want to remind you that our intelligence is carrying out such operations that other countries would not have dared to undertake.
Are you talking about a failed operation with the so-called "Wagner group" in the Republic of Belarus?

Not only, but also about the murders of the commanders and leaders of the Republics, the theft and removal from their territory of persons necessary for Ukraine, the penetration into the territory of Russia and the conduct of various sabotage actions there ...
Otherwise, this "Luhansk veterinarian" is one of the main "hawks" in the leadership of Ukraine

[riwas]

Is Russia going to look at this through the eyes of an outside observer? Georgian scenario up to Moldova.

[Cheshire]

I mean, then turn around and leave!?!
Why would you?

[Grits]

Quote: Cheshire

I mean, then turn around and leave!?!

There is another option - to stay a few kilometers from Kiev. Passed already in 2008

[Lara Croft]

Quote: riwas

Georgian scenario up to Moldova.

As a result of that war, the Russian Federation suffered losses, liberating the Republic of South Ossetia and occupying the territory of Georgia, subsequently leaving the territory of Georgia, do you want the Russian Federation, bearing tens of thousands of military units and occupying the territory of Ukraine, to reach Moldova and subsequently return to its original positions under the pressure of the "world community"? Meaning? As I understand it, you will not take part in this "valiant" campaign to the Dniester?

[vik669]

As I understand it, you will not take part in this "valiant" campaign to the Dniester? And nakuya risk that - immediately at the captivity!

[From Tomsk]

The point is not whether the APU can do something or not. And what will happen if they decide to attack. On this occasion, Ukraine has already been warned that it will cease to exist as a state.

[Egoza]

Quote: From Tomsk

On this occasion, Ukraine has already been warned that it will cease to exist as a state.

Long overdue!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: From Tomsk

On this occasion, Ukraine has already been warned that it will cease to exist as a state.

Yes, she is already a colony.

[mojohed2012]

Maybe the APU is capable of taking Donetsk and Lugansk, for a short time, BUT: with a lot of blood, not completely, remaining surrounded with the subsequent loss of statehood by the country 404.

[Ros 56]

Of course they can, if all the defenders and residents are taken out of there, which empty cities cannot be taken.
Here are just one problem, the people live there and defend their cities and lands. And these Natsiks have already tried on their own skin, how their ass burned in the cauldrons. So tryndet in the office is not an attack. Well, idiot, honestly, this NSDC secretary.

[Anatoly Lukyanov_2]

Sherkhan, weakening, it's time to change shoes for the corrupt Ukrainian elite.

[Ross xnumx]

Yesterday I came across a video that described how the Ukrainian Armed Forces beat at a water pumping station, with the risk of leaving the residents of the city and the nearest suburbs without water. I'm not interested in why anymore. I would like to know how long Russia will allow the Russian people to be bullied, even on an unrecognized independent territory? How long can you listen to and read all this nonsense of the representatives of the Armed Forces of Ukraine and the Ukrainian authorities conducting the "great mission of liberation"?
Few RUSSIAN PEOPLE REMAINED ON THIS PLANET !!! FEW!!!

[tihonmarine]

Quote: ROSS 42

Few RUSSIAN PEOPLE REMAINED ON THIS PLANET !!! FEW!!!

I'm the same about that, we must protect each other, not fight.

[KCA]

And the outskirts of Russia will also be able to win? Comrade Putin stated unequivocally that if the citizens of Russia are in danger, then by all means and means their safety will be ensured, Russia will have enough forces and means for 3 days, the Outskirts will not hold out any longer.

[tihonmarine]

Danilov:

They can do it.

And get on the sopatka, not weak ???

[nikvic46]

Donetsk commander- "They will say from above to open return fire, we will open it. If they do not say, we will remain silent." If the USSR acted in this way against the Japanese in Mongolia, it would all drag on.

[Ross xnumx]

Quote: nikvic46

If the USSR acted in this way against the Japanese in Mongolia, it would all drag on.

And Russia is fighting somewhere else, as then, in 1941, was forced to fight on two fronts? Here, the same referendum as in Crimea is enough ... What if people do not want to live according to Ukrainian laws?
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Here the question of classical Russian literature has already been raised. Why doesn't anyone raise the issue of classical Italian literature or the relevance of Shakespeare's plays? It was not enough that the Russian language in the primordially Russian lands was recognized as illegal ...

[Lara Croft]

Quote: nikvic46

Donetsk commander- "They will say from above to open return fire, we will open it. If they do not say, we will remain silent." If the USSR acted in this way against the Japanese in Mongolia, it would all drag on.

Well, in the period from June 1941 to August 1945, the USSR acted against militaristic Japan in the Far East, the strategy consists in distributing the forces and capabilities of the state's resources and striking the enemy when it would be unprofitable for the latter ... The same is possible and write about the Soviet-Turkish border during the Second World War ...
In 2014, the Russian Federation stopped the threat of control by the Ukrainian authorities over the entire territory of Ukraine and created a threat to Ukraine itself by taking part of Donbass under its protection, something similar was done by the British Empire and the USSR with respect to Iran ...
Don't worry, tea in the General Staff of the RF Armed Forces is not an ignoramus ... if you hesitate, write a letter to the RF Ministry of Defense and reveal the topic of your reflections from the field of military science ...

[morpogr]

Again, inadequate mriet about peremog. Country of fairy tales and storytellers.

[APASUS]

Dancing with tambourines again! Conversation, for the sake of conversation. It is necessary to maintain the intensity of passions, if the people do not think about the war, it will be necessary to explain what the authorities are doing

[Mishka78]

Well, in principle, yes, they probably can. Just crush with a mass. Yet there are ten times more of them. Armament is about the same + they have aviation.
But this is a spherical horse in a vacuum. Russia will not allow them to do this. In any case, I really hope so.

[Mishka78]

Well, we're talking about a spherical horse ..
Those. if tomorrow the hohloarmiya realizes that it is left alone with Donetsk and Lugansk and can work on them without fear of retaliation from the Russian Federation, then their morale will greatly strengthen and they will roll out the DLNR. Still, there are 30 million people on the territory of Ukraine, and only 3 million in the LPNR.
Here, by the way, non-payment of salary will just contribute to the desire to rob the locals and add morale. Look, at first how briskly they fled to the "front". But when they ate that you won't go too far + the Russian Federation will work on them, so the enthusiasm came to naught.

[Prisoner]

“I want to remind you that our intelligence conducts such operations, which in other countries would not dare to.” (C) Not every country has as many idiots as there are in the quasi-security.

[Der Spiegel]

Of course, the article is beautifully written.
BUT!
1. The failed Wagnerian operation is more of a question for the SBU, and Danilov was talking about military intelligence.
2. In the cauldrons near Illovaisk there were mostly volunteers, there was almost no regular army there.
3. Debaltseve, although it was actually lost, comparing the number of involved and lost forces and means, it is at least incompetent to talk about the defeat of the Ukrainian troops.

[Cb master]

Well, of course, Debaltsevo is as big as possible.

[Lara Croft]

Quote: Der Spiegel

and Danilov talked about military intelligence.

The article seems to be written in Russian:

Secretary of the Ukrainian Security Council:
I want to remind you that our intelligence service conducts such operations, which in other countries would not dare.

Debaltseve, although it was actually lost, but comparing the number of involved and lost forces and assets, it is at least incompetent to talk about the defeat of the Ukrainian troops

Do you think there was a victory for the APU?

APU had 4,7 thousand people personnel (which were supplemented by 500 soldiers from the National Guard and the Ministry of Internal Affairs), 120 tanks, 180 artillery systems and 65 units of MLRS. They were opposed by 10 thousand people, 170 tanks, 290 artillery barrels and 110 MLRS. There were 50 checkpoints, 37 strong points, 8 strategic objects in the combat zone.

According to the General Staff of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, according to the results of the battlesheld from January 15 to February 18, 110 people. killed, 270 were wounded, only seven fighters were captured, 18 are missing, enemy destroyed 30% of equipment

https://topwar.ru/168090-bylo-lish-sem-plennyh-vsu-podveli-itogi-bitvy-za-debalcevo.html

However, the the surrounded units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine were given a chance to leave safe and sound... As a result of the new Minsk agreements on February 11-12, it was decided that both sides should completely cease fire and withdraw heavy weapons from the contact line by midnight on February 15. In turn, the heads of the LPR and DPR announced their readiness to provide the Ukrainian troops with corridors to exit the boiler if they leave weapons and equipment... However, some commanders decided to go for a breakthrough. Some of the encircled were able to get out through the fields and country roads north of Logvinovo, throwing up to 300 units of various equipment in the "cauldron".

https://fishki.net/anti/2515654-debalycevskij-razgrom-kak-ukrainskie-vojska-ugodili-v-krupnejshij-kotel.html
So the military unit of the Armed Forces of Ukraine did not stay in the ground to feed the worms and did not lose the entire its VT, it is the merit of the negotiators and the provision of the opportunity for the formations and units of the Armed Forces of Ukraine to get out of the "boiler" ...
As a result of this "operation" of the Armed Forces of Ukraine, the militia got mountains of ammunition and a large number of combat-ready V and VT ...

[aszzz888]

Secretary of the Ukrainian NSDC (Council of National Security and Defense) Alexey Danilov

the ukronazist has been living for several extra years. It's time for him to close this lease.

[Cb master]

Is it interesting before the cold weather or after to drive the Ukrainians into the boilers?

[TermNachTer]

Reminds an old Soviet anecdote about an elephant))) "Moget then he can, currents hto give him))) the funny thing is that the warriors keep quiet, because they understand" the entire depth of the depths and latitudes ", but the oligophrenics, who were released from the" fools ", as part of the health care reform, got to TV)))

[Reserve buildbat]

"I want to remind you that our intelligence is carrying out such operations, which in other countries would not dare." - It's right. They carry out such operations that only terrorist organizations dare.

[Shaman]

Troops of hiborgs are already smearing their heels with lard to rush into the attack.