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Movies matter too

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I will present films that made a strong impression on me at different times.


We can say that this is a subjective analysis, and I do not pretend to be an objective review of every film. I want to share with readers my impressions of them, and most of them were viewed in childhood and adolescence, one might even say that they participated in the formation of me as a person. I am sure that each of you experienced different feelings, looking at them, and made completely different conclusions.

Movies matter too

1. "They fought for the Motherland"


I watched this film as a child.

For me, this film is an example of the hammer of many destinies. My compatriots, completely different in character, origin, were presented in a film epic, which made a huge impression on me.

The most unlike and previously unfamiliar people found themselves in the mill of fate in the hardest battles of the Great Patriotic War. This film does not show idealized heroes hanging from the screen like a monument. Inconspicuous guys like you and me have done their duty and have done it with honor.

The simple fates of ordinary people at a very difficult time flashed before my childish eyes.

I still remember the words of the hero Yuri Nikulin about the armpits of his wife. These words did not provoke in me then a silly children's laugh, which would provoke now, perhaps, in children when watching. The forgotten smell of her armpits then plunged the warriors into memories of home, family, on that short halt between heavy battles, when they would probably soon be killed ...

Recommended by me for viewing in the school curriculum.


2. "Seventeen Moments of Spring"


A film about the hero scout.

The painting gave me a lot about the concept of homeland, duty and honor. What a wealth of examples I received then.

Being behind enemy lines, in round-the-clock tension and at the risk of being exposed, you remain a man and a faithful son of your homeland. Despite the danger and enemies, you should continue to fulfill your mission and bring the hour of Victory closer.

With a similar hard work of Stirlitz in reality, albeit slightly, but not fully, of course, I met in a hot spot, undergoing sabotage training, many years later. I recalled this film in the process of that practical training, realizing that our scout was completely immersed in the enemy's camp and lived surrounded by a hostile population, without the right to make a mistake ...


3. "Ordinary Fascism"


To say that I was shocked is to say nothing.

This film gave me a clear framework and direction for understanding that Nazism is evil in its purest form. Mass madness of fanatics who believed in their exclusivity, unprecedented cruelty, violence and inhumanity.

This picture very clearly showed me what these ideas lead to, and I swear that I received a lifelong vaccination against this infection!

It so happened that I looked at it at the age of 8, and just at that time I came across books by Viktor Suvorov (Rezun), which I read voraciously. I was interested in the theme of the Great Patriotic War.

This film became a reliable barrier between my fragile consciousness, that little bit of knowledge that I had at that time, and the poison with which Rezun, masterfully presenting his version on the pages of Icebreaker, poisoned my childish consciousness. The traitor's books aroused my great interest in the subject of that war, directed me to an in-depth study of many works of real veterans and eyewitnesses of those terrible years. And how grateful I am to "Ordinary Fascism" for the effective protection of me, in fact, then still a child, from that terrible poison with which Rezun's texts were saturated.

Sniffing in the nose, we can sometimes smell those smells that we do not feel right now, but smells from the past. While serving in the army, I breathed in the smell of bodies whose souls had left them. This smell haunts me after many years, although there is no death nearby. This film and the idea of ​​Nazism are firmly associated for me with this very smell. The smell of death ...

Recommended by me to obligatory watching on the big screen in the school curriculum. With the withdrawal of all smartphones at the entrance to the hall and the seating of children through two armchairs for complete immersion in the horrors of the paintings of this work. Let the children learn the cruel lesson of Nuremberg before they vomit and nausea, having received the vaccine forever of truthso that the rearing hydra of fascism and Nazism has recently met resistance, disgust and contempt of young people ...


4. "Come and see"


How much I wanted to write about this film. But I won't.

I will try to describe only in a short text the feelings that this motion picture caused me in childhood.

Have you ever heard the ringing silence that muffles and presses on your ears?

Can you imagine how this very silence breaks like an invisible canvas without sound?

Such a gap in my child's soul reflected this история... So close I felt her.

This film taught me, taught me the first lesson about real war. The very moment of the "sky of Austerlitz", where the enthusiastic drums and the beautiful ranks of the advancing line infantry fall silent, where the attractiveness of war melts away.

Remarque's disappointments, Bolkonsky's revelation, a business trip to the Caucasus - all this happened to me later. The first truth for me sounded in this film.

If I can put it that way - a heart-rending cry of silence at dawn - that's what I would call my impressions of this masterful painting.

Recommended for mandatory viewing in high school.


5. "The battalions are asking for fire"


Not to say that this film claims to be a special place among the imperishable works. But for me personally, he first taught me the following lessons, which were confirmed in life.

First, there are no happy endings in a war ...

Secondly, courage, destinies - broken by the tactical plan - have a place to be and are only “battles of local importance”. Through this film and "The Dawns Here Are Quiet" I heard Levitan's daily calculations about local battles in a completely different way. I began to hear in these days, in the days of calm on the fronts, the continuing death of thousands of my compatriots, the broken destinies who did not perish in vain, but in their own way brought that day closer, brought it closer as they could, not in the main directions.


6. "Titanic"


This movie impressed me.

Many years later, I was so disappointed in people and love, wounds in my soul - as we all know. This film opened for me a world of feelings, fidelity and great faith in love at the very moment when everything around collapses and perishes.

Human attitudes of society's behavior: social groups, hierarchy, the gap between classes and the attitude towards people below you - all this I saw for the first time in this film.

In the 90s, we had not yet seen so clearly a class gap, and then it became a revelation for me.

At school we were often taken to the cinema classes, but this was the first time when all the children were silently sitting and watching all 2 hours and 20 minutes. Leaving the hall, we were all overwhelmed by the scale of the picture, the catastrophe. My classmates and I discussed every detail of the film and every scene for a long time.

I can say that this saga of love and an example of the class nature of society still remains on the most important shelf of my collection.


7. "Gladiator"


The film taught me a lot.

Dignity, honor, honesty, determination and love for the Motherland.

Faith and love for the Motherland is not love for the emperor or power. Grievances from the authorities do not stop love for the Motherland, if you understand this love for the Fatherland correctly.

Being true to your convictions and overcoming any proposed circumstance with honor and dignity are the important lessons I learned from this film.

I watched as a teenager, already in the army, faced with betrayal, corruption and stupidity of the command, examples of service from this film helped me to overcome everything, not to break down. They helped not to confuse the disappointment that comes from the authorities, with love for the Fatherland and the fulfillment of one's duty with honor and dignity.

“I will only serve Rome” - for me still means that I will serve only the Fatherland, and not anyone else.

I would recommend this film for viewing at the central recruiting offices of the military enlistment office system.


8. "Alexander"


This film is not an absolute example, but it was he who taught me how to dare to dream.

To dream bravely and courageously, despite the condemnation of relatives and friends, not to look back at society.

If you believe in something, fearlessly go to your dream, and let the whole world wait! You attract those who do not dare to dream, who are afraid, do not dare. They will follow you to the very end of the earth, to India, from where no one has returned! They will publicly idolize you, but weave a conspiracy behind your back. And only in flight to your dream, boundless and immensely high, will you achieve much more than you would simply be afraid to dream ...

How now our leaders lack this energetic courage, around whom we would rally, inspired, if not our own, but his dream - a strong and absolutely free leader!
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  1. Vladimir_2U
    Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 11: 05
    +22
    "Titanic" with "Gladiator" are especially appropriate and thematic.
    1. Nexcom
      Nexcom 10 September 2021 11: 13
      +10
      ... and "Alexander".
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 11: 24
        +7
        Quote: Nexcom
        and "Alexander".

        I didn't finish reading it!
        1. Nexcom
          Nexcom 10 September 2021 11: 25
          +6
          ... yes I understand it. and therefore corrected your defect. laughing
      2. Asad
        Asad 10 September 2021 11: 25
        +5
        Each hut has its own rattles! But I agree with you, you still need to divide your favorite films by subject, otherwise you can put Zhmurki in a row with masterpieces!
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 September 2021 11: 48
          +11
          And why did "Zhmurki" not please you? Poorly shown the idiocy of current life? What kind of life - so are films. negative
          1. NDR-791
            NDR-791 10 September 2021 12: 00
            +8
            Quote: Sea Cat
            And why did "Zhmurki" not please you? Poorly shown the idiocy of current life? What kind of life - so are films.

            Hide and seek slightly "out of topic". By Zhmurkami it is necessary to put Boomer and Brigade in a row. And then, as it were, the series did not begin with that.
            1. Catfish
              Catfish 10 September 2021 12: 12
              +8
              Don't tell me, "The Brigade" was filmed with attempts at realistic seriousness, "Boomer" I did not see, my son advised against it, and "Zhmurki" was a grotesque of black humor brought to complete absurdity, but then life was more like a branch of an insane asylum. And the film was shot professionally, at the level, the acting is excellent.
              For the rest, we're talking about films that we liked.
              1. Bashkirkhan
                Bashkirkhan 10 September 2021 12: 29
                +3
                Quote: Sea Cat
                "Zhmurki" - the grotesque of black humor, brought to complete absurdity, but then life was more like a branch of an insane asylum

                However, in the film "Zhmurki" Dyuzhev plays better than in "Brigade". By the way, from the last films "Red Ghost" is good.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 10 September 2021 12: 38
                  +4
                  Haven't seen this movie, thanks for the advice. hi
              2. Sling cutter
                Sling cutter 11 September 2021 08: 48
                +2
                Quote: Sea Cat
                Don't tell me, "The Brigade" was filmed with attempts at realistic seriousness, "Boomer" I did not see, my son advised against it, and "Zhmurki" was a grotesque of black humor brought to complete absurdity, but then life was more like a branch of an insane asylum. And the film was shot professionally, at the level, the acting is excellent.

                There was also "Mama Don't Cry", which is also cool.
                1. Catfish
                  Catfish 11 September 2021 09: 16
                  +1
                  "Mom didn't get to see it. request
                  1. Sling cutter
                    Sling cutter 11 September 2021 09: 22
                    +1
                    Quote: Sea Cat
                    "Mom didn't get to see it.

                    Duc is not a problem though. This is a more light and cool version of "blind man's buff", and "catch phrases" Iam through the word. tricks there is good! good
    2. Serj197930
      Serj197930 10 September 2021 11: 21
      +14
      So "Alexander" is also especially appropriate. Apparently the author does not know that there is a very good film "Officers"
      1. Bashkirkhan
        Bashkirkhan 10 September 2021 11: 26
        +3
        Quote: Serj197930
        So "Alexander" is also especially appropriate.

        Alexander is a film about real warriors.
        1. lucul
          lucul 10 September 2021 11: 33
          +8
          Alexander is a film about real warriors.

          There, of the real warriors, only Cleitus is shown, who was stabbed by Alexander with a spear. The rest is propaganda of homosexuality.
      2. The leader of the Redskins
        The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2021 11: 30
        +8
        The author has listed too promoted motion pictures. Probably everyone watched them.
        Yes, there are other equally well-known films.
        And here I have been looking at little-known pictures for two years. I find them on the Internet and look.
        The last thing that made me walk under the impression for several days was "Chistye Prudy".
        Although he did not take prizes and places at festivals, the play of young Zbruev, Svetlichnaya and other actors, the script, not props ...
        For several days I remembered the phrases and frames of this black and white movie.
        1. Catfish
          Catfish 10 September 2021 11: 56
          +10
          And I still watch "Chapaev" with pleasure, a masterpiece film, as long as I can remember, so much of him, and not tired. good
          1. ee2100
            ee2100 10 September 2021 13: 27
            +5
            If you have time, watch the French TV series "Bureau of Legends" or "Bureau". The last name is original, and the first is in the Russian adaptation. About exploration.
            I really liked it.
            1. The leader of the Redskins
              The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2021 13: 38
              +2
              I will definitely take an interest. Now, by the way, I'm watching the Polish TV series "The Age of Honor" ("The Time of Honor"). But it seems to be online only in Ukrainian (I speak).
              1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
                Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 14: 37
                +2
                A very deceitful, pseudo-historical, anti-Soviet film. Moreover, without a plot and design. Heroes are impossible to remember. Bullshit!
                1. The leader of the Redskins
                  The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2021 15: 01
                  +1
                  Yes, she doesn’t feel like a masterpiece. And all the heroes, straight "not killed". But he started ... So you need to check it out.
            2. Ingvar 72
              Ingvar 72 10 September 2021 16: 12
              +1
              Quote: ee2100
              watch the French TV series "Bureau of Legends" or "Bureau

              I liked Olivier Marshal's film "Orfevre Embankment, 38". A film about real men with principles.
              1. ee2100
                ee2100 10 September 2021 18: 02
                +4
                A good film, I admit it, but the series I recommend is also very interesting. I sincerely advise and envy those who will watch it for the first time
                1. Ingvar 72
                  Ingvar 72 10 September 2021 19: 44
                  +2
                  I'll try, thank you. hi
            3. Catfish
              Catfish 10 September 2021 23: 15
              +3
              I have not even heard about this film, I will definitely watch it.
          2. 210ox
            210ox 10 September 2021 20: 12
            +3
            In the seventies, we, schoolchildren, were often shown "Ordinary Fascism". The film is really very strong. Though woven from documentary footage.
        2. Konnick
          Konnick 10 September 2021 12: 47
          +1
          The last thing that made me walk under the impression for several days was "Chistye Prudy".

          Isn't there footage of a walk through the unfinished stadium in Izmailovo?
          1. The leader of the Redskins
            The leader of the Redskins 10 September 2021 13: 37
            +3
            There. Young people dream of what they will become after graduation from school, but they do not know that their dreams are prophetic in their own way, and tomorrow a war will begin.
      3. Sling cutter
        Sling cutter 11 September 2021 09: 08
        +6
        Quote: Serj197930
        So "Alexander" is also especially appropriate. Apparently the author does not know that there is a very good film "Officers"

        There's also the Emancipation trilogy for all time!
        But for me the most favorite will remain "In war, as in war" and "They fought for the Motherland"!
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 September 2021 11: 21
      +5
      Gladiator is just a movie for everyone. Change Rome to any other place and you will see. The description of the author, as well as the motivation after the prosiotra, are very accurate. The film is gorgeous in its essence.
      1. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 11: 29
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Gladiator is just a movie for everyone. Change Rome to any other place and you will see.
        I'll try on the Ukrainian Rada of 2021 sample ... No, some kind of circus turns out.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 September 2021 11: 37
          +1
          Well, this is for us) and they will try on their terminators and will be happy. Warriors of the same light eperny theater)))
      2. seacap
        seacap 10 September 2021 11: 44
        +7
        carstorm 11 (Dmitry) a fairy tale, which gives a perverse and incorrect idea of ​​that historical period, does not correspond to the truth at all, a beautiful picture for squeezing out tears and nothing more, on a par with all sorts of lords of the rings.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 September 2021 12: 22
          +1
          So we talk about cinema and how it affects people) Yes, and the Lord of the Rings is not simple)
        2. 210ox
          210ox 10 September 2021 20: 15
          +2
          In this regard, the series "Rome" is even more truthful. And one of our films touched me. It is very rarely shown. But in vain. "Parents are not chosen"
    4. knn54
      knn54 10 September 2021 11: 27
      +5
      Vladimir, I agree 100%, especially since in the latter there is a free interpretation of true historical events.
      In terms of patriotism, the film "Eagle of the Ninth Legion" is more suitable. Although this is my personal opinion.
      I would generally recommend ALL the film adaptation of Yuri Bondarev, "Hot Snow" and ESPECIALLY the epic "Liberation"
      Where the Soviet soldier-liberator of Europe from Nazism is shown.
      And I would like to add "Off season".
      1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 11: 53
        +3
        Epic "Liberation", in my opinion, has already been corrected and it has become better. It seems that the name has changed there, but I'm not sure. The films of this epic are simply gorgeous.
        But the "off season" is not required. But that's my personal opinion. Sorry.
        1. knn54
          knn54 10 September 2021 12: 05
          +4
          Andrey, about the "Dead season".
          -the film is based on REAL facts. One of the consultants was the prototype of the protagonist, the scout Konan Molodiy. In the credits, under a different surname.
          - and especially in light of COVID-19.
          Subscribing to the opinion of members of the forum, the film "Officers"
          "There is such a profession to defend the Motherland."
          1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 12: 31
            +1
            The film "Officers" is wonderful! I support !!!
            And about the "Dead season" you will not convince me - a film about scouts, even if the facts are real, but private and not so important. Let the wonderful acting. So what? Let's leave the film "Seventeen Moments of Spring" - a wonderful film, but the others are superfluous.
            In our family, all male ancestors fought for the Motherland - both in the RIA, and in the White Army, and in the Red Army. My own grandfather has been in the Volyn region since 1944, and his uncle died in October 1941 near Moscow. But there were no scouts, security officers and others like that. Therefore, our attitude to intelligence and counterintelligence is wary, for 1934-38 and our family passed a little ... Alas.
      2. Andrey Chizhevsky
        Andrey Chizhevsky 10 September 2021 12: 00
        +5
        It is better to recommend not only watching films based on Yuri Bondarev - you read his books, but also other writers - veterans. Where is Baklanov? Nekrasov? Finally Granin?
    5. Doccor18
      Doccor18 10 September 2021 11: 43
      +4
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "Titanic" with "Gladiator" are especially appropriate and thematic.

      The films are strong in terms of directing, the work of costume designers and cameramen, but ... it is somehow even indecent to compare them, or even put them on the same list with "Come and See" and "Ordinary Fascism" ...
    6. Most polite
      Most polite 10 September 2021 13: 51
      +5
      Honestly, idiotic selection of films, I don't even understand the selection criteria !!!
      Soviet films about the Second World War, documentaries or fiction, no difference, really good !! you cannot limit 5 or 10, there are much more of them.
      About Hollywood is a separate story, sorry for the tautalogy, but it is the History in the exposition of the Hollywood masters that is the last thing I would like to watch.
      Yes, spectacular, but superbly filmed and staged .. but only the names of the main characters are left from the real historical facts. laughing
      But there are really great American films that you can and should enjoy.
      1. Starover_Z
        Starover_Z 10 September 2021 15: 11
        +2
        Quote: Most polite
        only the names of the main characters are left from the real historical facts.
        But there are really great American films that you can and should enjoy.

        I remembered ... If here in the list and description of films the author mixed imported films, then he missed, or maybe not seen the American film "300 Spartans" in 1962. Powerful movie. I have not personally looked at the modern one and am not going to, but this one can be revised!
    7. tihonmarine
      tihonmarine 10 September 2021 15: 28
      +1
      Quote: Vladimir_2U
      "Titanic" with "Gladiator" are especially appropriate and thematic.


    8. Sam-07
      Sam-07 13 September 2021 20: 15
      0
      plus for S-sarcasm ...
      The author started for health .... then went to solid Hollywood.
  2. rocket757
    rocket757 10 September 2021 11: 15
    +7
    I will present films that made a strong impression on me at different times.
    Everyone has their own list, their own impressions ...
    I haven't watched Titanic and I don’t want to, “Battalions are asking for fire” too ... but for “Liberation” I vote with all my fibers and always!
    What's wrong?
    1. Anatole Klim
      Anatole Klim 10 September 2021 11: 29
      +6
      Quote: rocket757
      but for "Liberation" I vote with every fiber and always!
      What's wrong?

      I watched the film "Liberation" as a child, when it was just filmed, it was in the soldiers' club, where we went to the cinema, this is not filmed now.
      I still freeze:
      -shoot! you will see how it dies Russian officer major Maksimov!
      Another hero of Kuravlev is a telephone operator who extended a connection to the Reich Chancellery:
      - you have a shitty place here.
      1. rocket757
        rocket757 10 September 2021 11: 51
        +4
        It is normal when everyone collects their own film library / library of masterpieces by themselves.
  3. aybolyt678
    aybolyt678 10 September 2021 11: 24
    +4
    At the same time as the Titanic, Gattac's film was released ... the budget is comparable, but the film was not released worldwide, probably for ideological reasons. He was shown in America. I think because he was ahead of his time. It is still relevant now, although some technical nuances look already naive. Science fiction of the near future. My wife and I reviewed it several times.
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 11: 26
      +1
      Quote: aybolyt678
      movie gattaca

      Not a bad movie, not a bad one!
    2. lucul
      lucul 10 September 2021 11: 45
      +3
      My wife and I reviewed it several times.

      You are better Inadequate people 2 look, it is with his wife.
      Strong film.
  4. Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 10 September 2021 11: 24
    +5
    How now our leaders lack this energetic courage, around whom we would rally, inspired, if not our own, but his dream - a strong and absolutely free leader!
    good
    The correct conclusion.
    I want to add just one thought. The socialist realism of Soviet cinema is perceived positively even today, because it was done by the hard work and skill of the school of Soviet directors and actors. And the main characters of these films did (on the screens) good, fought for justice and brought people the truth reflected in dialogues, skillfully played scenes and the simplest human relationships.
    Here are some of my favorite films: "Chapaev", "The Story of a Real Man", "The Living and the Dead", the epic "Liberation", "Battle for Moscow", "Girls", "It Was in Penkovo", "The Rumyantsev Case" , "You never dreamed of", "Moscow does not believe in tears", "Office romance" and many others.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 September 2021 13: 36
      +1
      Quote: ROSS 42
      The socialist realism of Soviet cinema is perceived positively even today, because it was done by the hard work and skill of the school of Soviet directors and actors.

      On the one hand, with both hands FOR! on the other hand, there were really few good films. Boring things came out on a production topic, now you can't even remember their names ...
      1. Uncle lee
        Uncle lee 10 September 2021 14: 29
        +8
        "Immortal Garrison", "The Living and the Dead", "Star", "Ivan's Childhood", "Ascent", "The Soldier's Father", "The Exploit of the Scout", "Two Soldiers", "Heavenly Slow Mover", "Scouts", "Away from the Motherland "," "Strong in spirit", "The cranes are flying", "In war, as in war", "The fate of a man", "Shield and sword", "Peace to the incoming", "Alpine ballad", "Zhuravushka", " Torpedo bombers "," Chronicle of a dive bomber "," Only "old men" are going into battle, "Zhenya, Zhenya and" Katyusha "," And the dawns here are quiet "," Liberation "," There is no way back "," On the trail of the Tiger ", "Faces of Death"
        And this is not a complete list ...
        1. Ross xnumx
          Ross xnumx 10 September 2021 16: 59
          +6
          Quote: Uncle Lee
          And this is not a complete list ...

          And I can continue the masterpieces of Soviet cinema, to which I will classify the series: "The meeting place cannot be changed", "The Adventures of Sherlock Holmes and Dr. Watson", "The Adventures of Prince Florizel" ... Films: "Volunteers", "Two Captains", "Chairman "," Cold summer of the 53rd "," Sixth "," The most charming and attractive "," Love and pigeons "," Station for two "," We will live until Monday "," My friend Kolka "," White sun of the desert " ...
          Let's remember how many times we watched the same "Elusive Avengers", "Operation" Y "and other adventures of Shurik" ... Nothing can replace that atmosphere, that spirit of Soviet films, and I will not remember comedy - I don't remember a single modern one. , where he giggled so ... Here is an example ("The Magic Power of Art" 1970):
          1. Uncle lee
            Uncle lee 11 September 2021 02: 42
            0
            Quote: ROSS 42
            masterpieces of Soviet cinema

            I have designated war films, and that is not all ... And about Soviet cinema, from comedy to tragedy, you can write endlessly. One listing of films will take up the entire VO format ... hi
    2. paul3390
      paul3390 10 September 2021 16: 33
      +3
      The socialist realism of Soviet cinema is perceived positively even today.

      Everything that is good, life-affirming and bright in our gray life is made exclusively in the USSR .. Alas, this is the reality of Putin's capitalism ..
  5. SERGE ANT
    SERGE ANT 10 September 2021 11: 26
    +15
    "Quiet Don", "Officers", "And the Dawns Here Are Quiet" .. The list can be continued, but there will be only the Soviet period with deep plots and ingenious acting. Modern "filmmaking" was not near.
    1. aybolyt678
      aybolyt678 10 September 2021 11: 27
      +9
      Quote: SERGE ant
      Modern "filmmaking" was not close.

      Yes. Masha Shukshina said this very convincingly
    2. lucul
      lucul 10 September 2021 11: 35
      +9
      Modern "filmmaking" was not close.

      Well, there the directors went through the war themselves, how would modern directors know about the war?
    3. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 September 2021 11: 39
      +3
      Behold the Red Ghost. He will greatly surprise you. This is probably the first film in 30 years about the war with a huge amount of symbolism.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 10 September 2021 11: 47
        +1
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Behold the Red Ghost. He will greatly surprise you. This is probably the first film in 30 years about the war with a huge amount of symbolism.


        I join. The whole family watched. Everyone liked it. They scold him, of course ... But from the modern war films, perhaps, he and "Podolsk Cadets".
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 14: 32
          +2
          Quote: sergo1914
          and "Podolsk cadets".

          didn't like it, to be honest. The heroes are made of cardboard, everything is somehow fake. From foreign military I recommend to look "Mosul", if you haven't watched yet.
        2. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
          Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 14: 42
          +1
          Does this film exist? How many times have I tried it, but YouTube refers to some promos and so on. I live in Ukraine and I admit that our authorities may have closed it for viewing. So it is possible? Do not know. But I really want to watch this film !!!
          1. Ashes of Claes
            Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 56
            +1
            Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Does this film exist?

            Are you talking about Mosul?
          2. Avior
            Avior 11 September 2021 00: 43
            0
            Look. There the language option is selected.
            https://rezka.ag/films/action/36229-mosul-2019.html
      2. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 16: 09
        +1
        Quote: carstorm 11
        This is probably the first film in 30 years about the war with a huge amount of symbolism.

        Where did you look at symbolism in this UG? Yes, even a "huge amount"?
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 September 2021 17: 07
          -3
          I cannot instill a taste in you. Well, just fix your eyesight. I advise you to start with the fact that the Red Ghost is a real myth of the Second World War. Trench tales. Well, starting from this, try to look again. People need to believe in something. Someone really believed in this myth. If you watched, did you even notice that the heroes of the film do not have our names? Well, except for the girl? Well, here's a symbol for you that any person in general could be the same ghost.
          1. Ashes of Claes
            Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 21
            +2
            It's primitive. Only the lazy did not kick Shakhnazarov for his symbolism. Although White Tiger is a perfectly decent film.
            Quote: carstorm 11
            Well, here's a symbol for you that any person in general could be the same ghost.

            awesome symbol - any person could be the hero of the myth. Or not a man. Deep, nda.
  6. Vasilenko Vladimir
    Vasilenko Vladimir 10 September 2021 11: 26
    +4
    "go and see" I will not watch the second time for any price, the first was enough, although I would have introduced an essay on the film to the school curriculum.
  7. lucul
    lucul 10 September 2021 11: 29
    0
    Of modern films, I will single out only District 9 and Annihilation.
    Of the old - of course, only old people go to battle (transfer of emotion, not action).
    1. carstorm 11
      carstorm 11 10 September 2021 11: 41
      0
      District number 9 has a kind of continuation and if you liked it, then Elysium and the Robot named Chappy should also go.
      1. lucul
        lucul 10 September 2021 11: 44
        0
        District number 9 has a kind of continuation and if you liked it, then Elysium and the Robot named Chappy should also go.

        I watched this and that - did not go.
        All the same, a hungry director shoots better than a well-fed director)))
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 September 2021 12: 18
          0
          Perhaps. But I looked with pleasure. I like how all these themes play out.
      2. Vladimir_2U
        Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 11: 45
        +2
        Quote: carstorm 11
        Elysium

        Elysium, as for me, is a rather weak film.
        1. carstorm 11
          carstorm 11 10 September 2021 12: 21
          0
          From the third time I started to respect him. Something like the Nolan films. Beginning when I watched some impressions for the first time. And potgm for the second time is generally different)
  8. neri73-r
    neri73-r 10 September 2021 11: 31
    +2
    I watched all the films, except for Alexander, of course, it's strange that there are no such films as Officers, In the Zone of Special Attention, Return Move, Solo Voyage, etc. But of all the films, the film Go and See left the most painful impression. We were taken by the whole class in 85 or 86, it was a must-see at school. He must be included in the school curriculum in the 10th or 11th grade. It is necessary to sober up and return to the earth our young Tiktokers and BloHers.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 10 September 2021 11: 58
      0
      Quote: neri73-r
      it is strange that there are no such films as Officers, In the Special Spotlight, Counter Move, Solo Swimming, etc.

      Filmed in 2014 the film "22 minutes". It seems to be topical, and the plot is good, and the actors are strong, and there was a budget, and modern special effects, but not that ... The feeling that you are just watching a film does not leave. At any moment you can pause and go for tea and a sandwich ...
      Try to step back while watching "Hot Snow" or "Ship Commander", people live on the screen, not play.
      From the modern ones I remember more "Marsh throw" and "Ninth Company", but they are very far from the Soviet masterpieces of cinema ...
      1. faiver
        faiver 10 September 2021 15: 14
        +2
        yes, the younger generation does not perceive Soviet cinema, such as "this is a stupid scoop", and stories about "they are not like that" are also not worth writing ... hi
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 10 September 2021 17: 34
          0
          Quote: faiver
          yes, the younger generation does not perceive Soviet cinema, like "this is a stupid scoop

          Does he perceive the modern "genius"? Renting 22 minutes is 8 times less than the budget of the painting ...
          "Dumb scoop" may be dumb for someone, but what have they built in return? Where is the worthy alternative? And it does not exist, even the modern "consumer" does not want to "consume" this creativity ... hi
          1. faiver
            faiver 10 September 2021 17: 48
            +1
            Where is the worthy alternative? And it does not exist, even the modern "consumer" does not want to "consume" this creativity ...
            - all in a creative search ... bully
            1. Doccor18
              Doccor18 10 September 2021 18: 39
              0
              Quote: faiver
              all in a creative search ...

              Good joke.
    2. out of habit
      out of habit 10 September 2021 12: 00
      +1
      It is necessary to sober up and return to the earth our young Tiktokers and BloHers.

      It seems to me that it is already impossible. This is their world, and they don't need anything else. Imagine yourself at their age, and a complete change of worldview ...
      1. neri73-r
        neri73-r 10 September 2021 12: 07
        0
        Quote: out of habit
        then their world, and they do not need another.

        We need this, they need to live and we need to change them, this is the future of our state.
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 26
          0
          Quote: neri73-r
          We need it

          so no one disputes your right to watch Soviet cinema. And children are interested in something completely different.
      2. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 15: 15
        +1
        Quote: out of habit
        It seems to me that it is already impossible.

        yes this old crap - "tashshit and not push" (c) Everyone, damn it, land, ground and admire, myopic squinting, their clones. Just like in "Courier" - "we will go crazy and become like you" .....
        Ugh, in short.
        1. out of habit
          out of habit 11 September 2021 15: 47
          0
          I do not call on anyone to reeducate. It's just annoying to look at the aforementioned cut of youth. Maybe this is the rare case when the elders know better? hi
          1. Ashes of Claes
            Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 17: 14
            0
            Quote: out of habit
            I do not call on anyone to reeducate.

            I got it. Your opponent is calling.
  9. Waterways 672
    Waterways 672 10 September 2021 11: 37
    +3
    Good Soviet films are shown on the Spas TV channel, but there is no contemporary cinema.
  10. sevtrash
    sevtrash 10 September 2021 11: 40
    +4
    To each his own, each has his own favorite films, music, interests. Over time, for the same person, they change.
  11. sergo1914
    sergo1914 10 September 2021 11: 48
    -1
    Option "Omega" and "In war, as in war."
    1. Vasilenko Vladimir
      Vasilenko Vladimir 10 September 2021 11: 53
      0
      Quote: sergo1914
      Option "Omega"

      better book, as well as "shield and sword"
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 15: 10
        -2
        Quote: Vasilenko Vladimir
        as well as "shield and sword"

        in a literary sense, a rather mediocre thing.
    2. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
      Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 11: 58
      0
      Average, mediocre films. Optional! You need to look once and no more.
      1. sergo1914
        sergo1914 10 September 2021 12: 20
        -2
        Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
        Average, mediocre films. Optional! You need to look once and no more.


        What are not average?
        1. Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
          Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko 10 September 2021 12: 36
          +2
          Epic "Liberation", "They fought for the Motherland", "And the dawns here are quiet ...", "The battalions are asking for fire", "Officers", "Solo voyage", "Checks on the roads", "Come and see", " Case in square 36-80 "," The living and the dead "," Requiem for the PQ-17 caravan "," Blockade ". I can add a little more, but I'm at work and the break will be over soon. OK. Enough of this.
          1. sergo1914
            sergo1914 10 September 2021 15: 55
            -2
            Quote: Andrey Zhdanov-Nedilko
            Epic "Liberation", "They fought for the Motherland", "And the dawns here are quiet ...", "The battalions are asking for fire", "Officers", "Solo voyage", "Checks on the roads", "Come and see", " Case in square 36-80 "," The living and the dead "," Requiem for the PQ-17 caravan "," Blockade ". I can add a little more, but I'm at work and the break will be over soon. OK. Enough of this.


            Option "Omega" and "In the war ..." are mediocre, and the propaganda "36-80" - a masterpiece? "Solo Voyage" is the coolest movie, but in a different category. Like a trilogy about the Elusive and the White Sun of the Desert.
  12. Doccor18
    Doccor18 10 September 2021 11: 49
    +3
    I was very impressed by the movie "The Living and the Dead".
    And much later "Schindler's List".
  13. Dimy4
    Dimy4 10 September 2021 11: 49
    +3
    I looked at "Solntsepek" to say that I left a strong impression, to say nothing. The film is heavy, although it has not yet shown all the horror that was happening then.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 15: 20
      0
      Quote: Dimy4
      I looked at "Solntsepek" to say that I left a strong impression, to say nothing.

      Conjuncture. "Comes" to the one who has a fad for these events. The Ukrainians also understood similar junk, but, of course, with a view "from the other side." And everyone has their own truth, as usual.
  14. Mishka78
    Mishka78 10 September 2021 11: 52
    +4
    The first 5 films are great! BUT!
    All films are Soviet. Where are contemporary Russian genius works? In which incredibly stupid and cruel NKVD officers torture and kill wonderful people, where soldiers have one gun per department, where Soviet officers go to fuck whores in brothels on the day of victory, etc.?
    After all, this is the real truth about the war (c) RTR, ORT, etc.

    Titanic - well, yes, nothing, not bad. A bit snotty, but certainly interesting.
    The gladiator is good, without exceptions.
    Alexander - mmm .. I went to see him in the movies at one time. I could not see it. The topic of gomosyatiny was too pedaled. Gone from the middle of viewing.
    1. paul3390
      paul3390 10 September 2021 16: 31
      +1
      In which the incredibly stupid and cruel NKVD officers torture and kill wonderful people

      Want to vomit? You can, for example, watch such a masterpiece as "Zuleikha Opens Her Eyes" .. I had enough for a couple of episodes - then I couldn't stand it. I am weak in spirit ..
      1. Mishka78
        Mishka78 10 September 2021 17: 18
        +2
        I heard about this craft. Thanks for the recommendation, but no)))
        I, in principle, as that to serials not very much. I am generally quite suspicious of the Russians. The wife sometimes looks - well, it's frank trash :) According to one scenario, they are shitty. She is a poor girl from the provinces, got a job as a scrubber in a rich house, there is a son who was inflamed with wild love for a poor girl, but his bride from a rich family was jealous, set this girl up, she went to jail, it turned out that she had a sudden child, she raised him, raised him, experienced difficulties, but suddenly that same rich prince galloped up and saved her ...
        Well, or tracing paper from the American, like all kinds of interns.
      2. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 15: 20
        0
        Quote: paul3390
        Want to vomit?

        Take a look at "Crimea".
  15. Pravodel
    Pravodel 10 September 2021 11: 55
    +9
    The list of worthy films is rather weak ... But where are the masterpieces of the USSR film library
    1. The Living and the Dead
    2. In the trenches of Stalingrad
    3. And the dawns here are quiet
    4. Only old people go to battle
    5. Officers
    6. The fate of man
    7. Seventeen moments of spring
    8. Ivan's childhood
    9. Soldier's father
    10. War is like war
    11. Road test
    12. Heavenly slug
    13. On the way to Berlin
    14. Shield and sword
    And so on, and so on.
    Apparently, the author did not watch these films, since he included such "masterpieces" as Titanic, Gladiator, Alexander in the list. It was definitely possible to do without them in childhood.
    But as a child it would also be good to see
    1. Alexander Nevsky
    2. Peter the First
    3. The guy from our city
    4. Give a complaint book
    5. Served 2 comrades
    6. The marriage of Balzaminov
    7. Hussar ballad
    8. Ballad of a soldier
    9. Star
    10. Transfer from our city
    11. Kotovsky
    and so on, etc.
    Apparently, the author did not watch these films either.
    I would like to wish the author: open the library of old Soviet films and review at least half of what is there. I am sure you will get more pleasure than watching Titanics, gladiators, Vikings, etc.
    1. Doccor18
      Doccor18 10 September 2021 12: 24
      +1
      Quote: The Truth
      But as a child it would also be good to see
      1. Alexander Nevsky
      2. Peter the First

      And not only in childhood. But so little has been filmed about these historical giants that it is even insulting. Peter I (1937!), Three miniseries in the 80s and EVERYTHING. I don't even want to mention the three films shot in Russia about Peter, because the moderators will not approve ...
      About Alexander Nevsky (1938!) And EVERYTHING. I will not say anything about the brainchild of 2008 either ...
      1. Pravodel
        Pravodel 10 September 2021 15: 42
        +2
        I completely agree with you. These films need to be watched all the time.
        Unfortunately, nowadays such great films are not shown on the big screen.
        Children, young people look like this "Masterpieces"like a titanic, a viking, a gladiator, a matrix, etc., there are many, many more like that.
        A special question: there was censorship in the USSR, which "did not give" to all these figures from the art of creating, making good films, writing good books, paintings, sculpting great works, but the remaining legacy, even in the tenth or one hundredth part, surpasses everything that has been created in art in 30 years after the collapse of the USSR.
        Peter I (1937!), About Alexander Nevsky (1938!), Etc.
        - according to the liberals, they were created in the most terrible, most dense years with rampant terror and the destruction of everyone and everything ...
        In the 30 years that have passed since the collapse of the USSR, nothing great has been created without censorship, comparable to that created in the USSR under the reign of censorship ...
        Well, in order for our figures in art to truly create, we need to return censorship and mercilessly destroy all the horror that is pouring down from the screens in a tropical downpour now, from the air to children and young people ..
        1. Doccor18
          Doccor18 10 September 2021 16: 38
          0
          It rarely happens when I agree with every word, this is the case. hi
        2. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 44
          -5
          Quote: The Truth
          These films need to be watched all the time.

          Wake up, my dear - the 21st century in the yard. And you want to stuff your children with your Kotovsky.
          Quote: The Truth
          Even in the tenth, one hundredth of its part, it surpasses everything that has been created in art in 30 years after the collapse of the USSR.

          Are you aware of the capacities of the Soviet film conveyor in general? 7250 for 73 years. That is, 100 films a year! 100! And how many Soviet masterpieces from this gigantic mass will you name? thirty? For every masterpiece, dear, there was a ton of slag. If now there was such a shaft of production, then, you see, and according to Hegelian dialectics, quantity would turn into quality ......... laughing
          1. Pravodel
            Pravodel 11 September 2021 16: 33
            0
            Wake up, my dear - the 21st century in the yard. And you want to stuff your children with your Kotovsky.

            Dear Ash Klaas, the good and the beautiful never get old. Let me tell you a secret: I begin to study philosophy at the Faculty of Philosophy from the philosophy of ancient Greece from Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. and after that they move on to the study of the philosophy of subsequent centuries. And only from those who studied philosophy of the ancients do real philosophers grow.
            Moving on to art. Great artists, writers, sculptors, etc. become only when they learn from the monuments of the great past works.
            Similarly, from our children, our youth, patriots grow up only when children and youth learn from the history of fathers, grandfathers, great-grandfathers. And one of the ways of education is just great films made in the USSR.
            Soviet film conveyor ... 7250 for 73 years. 100 films a year! 100

            Not all of the 7250 films, if you have indicated correctly, I do not check, this is not my task, they are great, but even if out of these 7000 - 100-200-500 films are great works, then they need to be shown to children, youth, brought up on them youth, so that there are no Ivanov in Russia who do not remember kinship ...
            1. Liam
              Liam 11 September 2021 16: 53
              +1
              Quote: The Truth
              Wake up, my dear - the 21st century in the yard. And you want to stuff your children with your Kotovsky.

              Dear Ash Klaas, the good and the beautiful never get old. Let me tell you a secret: I begin to study philosophy at the Faculty of Philosophy from the philosophy of ancient Greece from Socrates, Plato, Aristotle, etc. and after that they move on to the study of the philosophy of subsequent centuries. And only from those who studied philosophy of the ancients do real philosophers grow.

              this slag has about the same reasons to be on the list of film masterpieces as its protagonist to be mentioned in combination with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.
              1. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 18: 02
                0
                Quote: Liam
                this slag has about the same reasons to be on the list of film masterpieces as its protagonist to be mentioned in combination with Socrates, Plato and Aristotle.

                As far as I understand, this comrade has come a long way from Vera Kholodnaya to "Moscow does not believe in tears" laughing Art critic!
          2. DenVB
            DenVB 11 September 2021 19: 27
            0
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            If now there was such a shaft of production, then, you see, and according to Hegelian dialectics, quantity would turn into quality

            Nowadays, more than 100 films of Russian production are released annually. For example, in 2018, according to the Film Business website,
            129 Russian (including co-production) tapes and collections of short films (this includes 22 issues of "Cartoon in Cinema"), released in 2018, and 15 films released at the end of 2017 and finalized in 2018, were collected in Russia and countries of the former USSR 14,290 billion rubles, which amounted to 26,4% of the total box office of film distribution (a year ago, the share of domestic cinema was equal to 23,4%).

            It's even funny to talk about television. During the entire Soviet period, as many television films were not filmed as they are now doing in a year. The transition from quantity to quality has not yet been noticed.
    2. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 14
      -1
      Quote: The Truth
      But as a child, it would also be good to see ...

      Are you serious? Do you think that modern children, who grew up on a chroma key and a digit of the level of liquid frequency and matrix, will be delighted with the scenes of the Battle of the Ice in the 1938 film? Come on, by God. If you just stretch the sheet, load 16mm into the movie projector ..........))
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      2. Pravodel
        Pravodel 12 September 2021 09: 50
        0
        Dear Ash Klaas, art is not for delight ... For delight it is for crazy people jumping on a rope into an abyss, for climbing industrial building structures 50-100-200 m high, for riding "hooks" on electric trains, etc. etc. This art is for the soul, and the soul does not begin and does not end with
        liquid level digit and matrix
        ... The soul is relied upon, determined in socialization, in upbringing, which is facilitated, among other things, by the great films of the USSR period ... Therefore, these films are needed by our children, youth, otherwise, Ivans appear, who do not remember kinship, frying kebabs at the grave of the unknown soldier, etc ...
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 12 September 2021 11: 46
          0
          Quote: The Truth
          art is not for delight ...

          Exactly what "for".
          When mentors like you recruit art and turn it into a tool for mass socio-political therapy, or, to put it bluntly but honestly, brainwashing, things are bad. Art is serotonin, escapism, emotional drug, cognitive stimulus, intellectual feast, etc., and so on. And you, forgive me, are boring, like an old man's dream with your "Ivans", "graves" and the requirement to rape children by compulsory viewing of Kotovsky and Nevsky.
          1. lubesky
            12 September 2021 13: 07
            0
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            When mentors like you recruit art and turn it into a tool for mass socio-political therapy, or, to put it bluntly but honestly, brainwashing, things are bad. Art is serotonin, escapism, emotional drug, cognitive stimulus, intellectual feast, etc., and so on. And you, forgive me, are boring, like an old man's dream with your "Ivans", "graves" and the requirement to rape children by compulsory viewing of Kotovsky and Nevsky.

            If my memory serves me, Thiel, who is Ulenspiegel, used this phrase before every RESPONSIBLE act. After reading your comments, I did not notice the responsibility for your words. Your comments are filled with snobbery, contempt for the interlocutor, disrespect, pride, inappropriate sarcasm, intolerance of objections and rudeness. Not the ability to ACCEPT, ACCEPT your wrongness - these are all manifestations of a person, in your case, you are not able to REALIZE your wrongness, which again testifies to the pubertal period, deviant adolescent behavior that does not tolerate objections. A man (to an all-metal shell) is able not only to admit that he is wrong, but also to commit an act in recognition of this. A teenager is not even able to comprehend. Perhaps puberty has not gone noticeably for you, since adolescent maturation has not come. I admit that you confused the pounding in the heart of Ash Klaas with the banal pounding in the body of teenage hormones. Allegorically, what kind of victims do you want to remind everyone here, with your boorish comments, or where are your compatriots on the forum, if you, perhaps, call for their (whom?) Revenge?
            1. Pravodel
              Pravodel 12 September 2021 13: 33
              0
              Thanks, I agree with your comment.
              Taking the nickname of Ashes Claes from the immortal work of Charles de Coster "The Legend of Ulenspiegel", by the way from the past, old literature, you, dear, for some reason, completely refuse the modern generation to read, view the old great Soviet films, which, by right, are included to the golden fund of feature films in Russia.
              Dear, Ashes Klaas, unfortunately, a different opinion now prevails, and the younger generation learn from these terrifying TV shows like "Penal Battalion", "Pointe Shoes for Bun", "Milkmaid from Hatzapetovka", etc., which even with difficulty in art is impossible attributed. A similar thing is observed in cinemas, where grayness and squalor reign over and over. Bringing our society closer to liberalism, I believe, and not without the help of people like you.
              This concludes. I have nothing more to tell you.
              Watch old Soviet films.
              1. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 12 September 2021 14: 26
                0
                Quote: The Truth
                Watch old Soviet films.

                So look, who's stopping you? Just do not impose your taste on anyone. Your quixotic asceticism in the fight against pop culture is doomed to failure.
                Quote: The Truth
                Bringing our society closer to liberalism

                And what do you want to bring him closer to with your retrograde patriotism? Back to the scoop? Do you stubbornly fail to see the irreversibility of the processes of post-industrial society? Oh well...
        2. lubesky
          12 September 2021 13: 12
          0
          Quote: The Truth
          Dear Ash Klaas, art is not for delight ...

          I agree completely, colleague!
  16. out of habit
    out of habit 10 September 2021 11: 55
    +6
    I would add "Hot Snow."
  17. fiberboard
    fiberboard 10 September 2021 12: 14
    +5
    I would add: "I am a Russian soldier", "A Span of the Earth", "Gu-ha", "Sashka", "His battalion", "Torpedo bombers", "Ever nineteen years." The dead have no shame. " Only lately, no good films have been made about the war. All the latest armored trains, alien wings, saboteurs and snipers of various types and shades, black sheep, I'm not talking about bastards. This is what kind of talent you need to have in order to remove all this and spoil the feat of our grandfathers. I was especially outraged by the remake of the film "The Dawns Here Are Quiet".
    1. out of habit
      out of habit 10 September 2021 12: 24
      +3
      I would add: "I am a Russian soldier",

      In my opinion, it is better to read "Not included in the lists." A film, even a good one, will not convey thoughts and feelings.
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 14: 45
        -1
        Quote: out of habit
        In my opinion, it is better to read "Not included in the lists."

        support
    2. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 14: 24
      +1
      Quote: fiberboard
      "Gu-ha"

      great movie.
      I will add - "20 days without war", "Sergeant Major".
  18. sabakina
    sabakina 10 September 2021 12: 19
    +3
    To be honest, I misunderstood the author a little. If we are talking about a domestic cinematographer, what have foreign films to do with it? The main cash desk behind the hill! And I personally, without tears, still can't watch "The Dawns Here Are Quiet", and I can't watch the second episode "White Bim, Black Ear" at all!
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 10 September 2021 13: 59
      +3
      "White bim, black ear" I can't watch at all! "

      Reminded. When I was a child I watched it generally roared. The film is wonderful, but .. yes, I can't watch it either, it really takes my soul ..
      In the courtyard, and on hikes, they sang a song (I won't tell the author, I don't know): "White Bim, black ear, specks on the back, White Bim, black ear, you come to me."
  19. Daniil Konovalenko
    Daniil Konovalenko 10 September 2021 12: 30
    +3
    Some strange selection, from the presented would not revise "Hollywood", whatever one may say, commercial films. It's hard to revise Go and see, but it is necessary. Hot snow, I like it more than the Battalions ask for fire ... The living and the dead are strong in their documentary art.
    1. Konnick
      Konnick 10 September 2021 12: 52
      +3
      Strange some sort of selection, from the presented would not revise "Hollywood

      Strange, I support. Forest Gump is a great movie and not mentioned, although it is also Hollywood.
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 14: 08
        +3
        And it seems to me a rather stupid idea to "recommend" for viewing reference films, seen by everyone and related to the genre classics. I don't understand at all - why this post? Collect clickbait? Or because of this pearl:
        How now our leaders lack this energetic courage, around whom we would rally, inspired, if not our own, but his dream - a strong and absolutely free leader!

        ?

        And the "dream of an absolutely free leader" is, you know, enchanting cretinism. Well, or pubertal maximalism (which is not far).
  20. Konnick
    Konnick 10 September 2021 12: 51
    +2
    And I can endlessly watch "Option" Omega. And each time I see new facets of the actors' talent and, of course, an excellent script.
  21. Knell wardenheart
    Knell wardenheart 10 September 2021 13: 35
    +4
    All the same, ours and Western films are very different. It is probably somewhat incorrect to put together Soviet and Western films that are decades apart.
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 10 September 2021 14: 04
      +3
      "All the same, our and Western cinema is very different"

      If possible, I would specify - Soviet and Western cinema. The boundaries between the current Russian and Hollywood lines have practically disappeared.
  22. Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 13: 41
    +1
    Sorry, of course, but did anyone carefully examine the poster for the movie "They Fought for the Motherland"?
    I will explain:
    1. alekc75
      alekc75 10 September 2021 14: 09
      +2
      that piece from "Liberation"
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 14: 16
        +1
        Quote: alekc75
        that piece from "Liberation"

        and what is he for? For those who sculpted this poster, the scenes from the film seemed not enough ??
        1. alekc75
          alekc75 10 September 2021 14: 21
          +2
          the main thing is to pull and blind the pieces, and everything is so beautiful for them !!
  23. for
    for 10 September 2021 14: 12
    +4
    "Neutral waters" 1968
  24. Martin
    Martin 10 September 2021 15: 11
    +4
    Uh-uh ... In relation to films, I would rather agree with the author of the article, the films are good. Whether "Alexander" or "Gladiator" should be recommended for viewing as a personality-forming film is a very controversial issue. But it's not that.
    Rezun something to do with it ?! Here is how "Ordinary Fascism" protected the author from "Rezun's poison"? Here is what line in "Icebreaker" is refuted by "Ordinary fascism"? What is the strange manner of the authors - to shove the traitor Rezun (sample 1978) into articles that are completely unrelated to him? Why not Mazepa, for example, or Judas?
  25. faiver
    faiver 10 September 2021 15: 43
    +7
    judging by the text, the author is not yet 40 years old, as a result, "local" pensioners scolded him for being Hollywood, well, they explained that in their times the grass was greener and the girls were sweeter, and about love for the homeland it is a must yes
    1. Vladimir_2U
      Vladimir_2U 10 September 2021 15: 56
      0
      Quote: faiver
      judging by the text, the author is not yet 40 years old, as a result, "local" pensioners scolded him for being Hollywood
      Well, the author would have brought the author of "Saving Private Ryan", "Platoon", "Pretty Woman of Memphis" or something else, military since I remembered Soviet films about the war, but no, "Titanic", "Gladiator" and "Alexander". Thank you for not Jurassic Park.
      1. faiver
        faiver 10 September 2021 16: 11
        +1
        Saving Private Ryan, Platoon, Memphis Pretty
        - well, for Ryan, he would have been trampled into dust bully
        1. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 16: 43
          +3
          Quote: faiver
          - well, for Ryan, he would have been trampled into dust

          No, I don't think so)
          By the way, this year "Submarine" turns 40!
          Congratulations to all fans (I count myself among them, of course!)
          1. 3x3zsave
            3x3zsave 10 September 2021 18: 48
            +5
            They would definitely be trampled!
            "Das Boot" - the most credible film !!! I watched "Aurora" (the oldest cinema in St. Petersburg), four years ago. It should be noted that there is no ventilation at all. In this regard, the authenticity of sensations, by the end of the third hour of viewing, was almost complete.
            1. Ashes of Claes
              Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 19: 07
              +1
              Quote: 3x3zsave
              It should be noted that there is no ventilation at all. In this regard, the authenticity of sensations, by the end of the third hour of viewing, was almost complete.

              ))

              Great movie.
              1. 3x3zsave
                3x3zsave 10 September 2021 19: 14
                +4
                Great movie.
                And there is.
                1. Liam
                  Liam 11 September 2021 17: 03
                  +3
                  Quote: 3x3zsave
                  Great movie.

                  Perhaps the best war movie.
                  1. 3x3zsave
                    3x3zsave 11 September 2021 17: 22
                    +2
                    Perhaps the best war movie.
                    And very heavy to watch.
                    1. Liam
                      Liam 11 September 2021 17: 24
                      +3
                      I looked at least 5 times at least. True at home). And I read the book. One of those rare cases when a film is better than a book.
                      1. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 11 September 2021 17: 41
                        +1
                        Alas, I have not read the book. Not that I don’t want to, I don’t have time. I am reading Jean Favier.
                      2. Liam
                        Liam 11 September 2021 17: 45
                        +2
                        Short, not even a book ... a story rather.

                        http://loveread.ec/view_global.php?id=65347
                      3. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 11 September 2021 18: 10
                        +3
                        But the author is a journalist. He was sent to write urapatriotic crap, what he saw was totally inconsistent with the editorials in Velkischer Beobachter.
                      4. Liam
                        Liam 11 September 2021 18: 16
                        +2
                        German variant trench truth
                      5. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 11 September 2021 18: 45
                        +2
                        I also looked at other versions of the "German trench truth".
                      6. Ashes of Claes
                        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 21: 22
                        0
                        Quote: 3x3zsave
                        I also looked at other versions of the "German trench truth".

                        "Do dogs want to live forever?" - a rather weak adaptation of Fritz Wöss. Ott's fucking thing "Steel Shark" got a blast with "Sharks and Small Fish".
                        "Green Devils of Monte Cassino" - slag.
                        All German products of the 50s on a military theme (well, except for "Most", perhaps) - bullshit, IMHO.
                        But in fact, on German material it was possible to shoot such bombs ... But to drive the pretentious chernukha is the business of the winners. What we did. And it's a pity - the Germans could have made such an anti-war movie that it would be worth the liver ... And not all sorts of "guns of the island of Navarron"
                        "Boat" appeared in 1981
                        "Stalingrad" - in 1992
                        "Bunker" - in 2004.
            2. Ashes of Claes
              Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 19: 42
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              One of those rare occasions when a movie is better than a book.

              No! Not better!
              They are just different.
              The novel is gorgeous.
            3. Liam
              Liam 11 September 2021 19: 46
              +1
              In fact, the book and the film should be different. Various arts and dynamics. The film, verbatim repeating the book, the most boring occupation. There is one version of 12 chairs with Mironov and Gerdt's voiceover., Where they try to do everything according to the book. Tyagomotina
            4. Ashes of Claes
              Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 20: 08
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              In fact, the book and the film should be different. Various arts and dynamics. The film, verbatim repeating the book, the most boring occupation. There is one version of 12 chairs with Mironov and Gerdt's voiceover., Where they try to do everything according to the book. Tyagomotina

              Absolutely! (with)
              Nothing to add)

              by the way, I had both the novel and the film in my head when I got on board the only surviving "seven" (the one in Labeu). This ... this is ... incomprehensible. HOW????
            5. Liam
              Liam 11 September 2021 20: 55
              0
              They probably went crazy with claustrophobia. It's about hygiene and it's scary to think about what was going on there.
            6. Ashes of Claes
              Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 21: 39
              +1
              Quote: Liam
              It's scary to think about hygiene and what was going on there.
              This is just in the novel) And very talented.

              But in general .... Well, if now to tell the top-starter that Leni Riefenstahl is a style icon, and the best military thing is "Stoststrupp 1917" .... the crackle of templates will be all over the branch ... laughing
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 19: 21
    +2
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    They would definitely be trampled!

    And for Greyhound .......
    ))
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 10 September 2021 19: 48
      +2
      Oh yeah! Undoubtedly, Merzlikin plays Lunin better than Tom Hanks of the destroyer commander! wassat
  • Maki Avellevich
    Maki Avellevich 11 September 2021 09: 20
    +1
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    It should be noted that there is no ventilation at all. In this regard, the authenticity of sensations, by the end of the third hour of viewing, was almost complete.

    masterpiece!
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 11 September 2021 19: 06
      +1
      I'm terribly embarrassed to ask what upset you so much?
      1. Maki Avellevich
        Maki Avellevich 12 September 2021 06: 37
        +1
        Quote: 3x3zsave
        I'm terribly embarrassed to ask what upset you so much?

        vice versa! I vividly imagined this movie session and appreciated your sense of humor.

        Did the Jewish compliment hurt you? drinks
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 12 September 2021 07: 15
          +1
          By no means, I just decided to clarify. Certainly someone, but it is definitely difficult to suspect me of anti-Semitism. hi
  • Liam
    Liam 11 September 2021 17: 05
    +1
    Quote: 3x3zsave
    They would definitely be trampled!

    And Ryan is probably on the second line of the rating.
    1. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 11 September 2021 17: 34
      +1
      Meanwhile, I always remember that the bullet that hit the American mariner in Omaha Beach did not go to my grandfather in Konigsberg.
      1. Liam
        Liam 11 September 2021 17: 42
        +2
        Strong scene ..



        Films as a means of propaganda, patriotism and other similar stupidity. Films, like all art, for the sake of emotions.
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 11 September 2021 17: 56
          0
          Strong scene
          I agree that you will not see this in any Soviet film.
  • sergo1914
    sergo1914 10 September 2021 15: 58
    -2
    Quote: faiver
    judging by the text, the author is not yet 40 years old, as a result, "local" pensioners scolded him for being Hollywood, well, they explained that in their times the grass was greener and the girls were sweeter, and about love for the homeland it is a must yes


    So this is what you are, clip thinking ... Along the way, you didn't even understand what they were writing about in the comments.
    1. faiver
      faiver 10 September 2021 16: 07
      +3
      Well, where do we go with our feeble mind, I understand correctly that you are our ultimate truth?
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 16: 24
    +2
    Quote: faiver
    as a result, the "local" pensioners scolded him for being Hollywood, well, they explained that in their times the grass was greener and the girls were sweeter, well, about love for the homeland, this is a must

    ))
    Well, actually, he started it himself - don't wake, as they say, a sleeping pensioner, if you don't want to hear about "Battleship Potemkin" and watch the plot "Grandmothers from Putin's Detachments burn DVD with a pirated copy of the film Fury."
    1. Liam
      Liam 11 September 2021 17: 10
      0
      Quote: Ashes of Klaas
      do not wake up, as they say, a sleeping pensioner if you don’t want to hear about "Battleship Potemkin"



  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 September 2021 16: 15
    +2
    All domestic films here are good and useful, but they must be shown carefully. If they are repeated at least once a week, the perception will not be the same. But TV companies have ratings and advertisements. To show an advertisement, you have to show a film. Films lose their color. Experts believe that for the film to be well received, they should be shown no more than once every two years. But television drives hack. All films go in a circle.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 17: 53
      0
      Quote: nikvic46
      But you also need to show them carefully; if they are repeated at least once a week, the perception will be different.

      Pffff ... There was one amateur filmmaker who wrote that
      Quote: The Truth
      These films need to be watched all the time.

      Well, damn it, you need to think of it .... Some kind of sectarianism
  • nikvic46
    nikvic46 10 September 2021 16: 18
    +1
    There are very few films about the restoration of a post-war country. This was also a feat. I remember only one film, "The City Heats Up".
  • lubesky
    10 September 2021 16: 27
    +1
    What a wonderful discussion how many imperishable pictures and great films are listed! Refill your movie library - I don’t want to! Most of the films listed in the comments are required for young viewers to watch!
    1. depressant
      depressant 10 September 2021 18: 34
      +5
      Dear Author, I will add my own - "Nine days of one year". But this is my addiction, apparently related to the profession. Although great actors play in this great film, it is not for a wide audience. I love "The Taming of Fire" very much, the hero is the prototype of Sergei Pavlovich Korolev.
      1. lubesky
        10 September 2021 19: 01
        +1
        Quote: depressant
        Nine days of one year. "

        Thanks, I'll take a look. Now at such an age when it’s completely ashamed that I didn’t see all of our paintings. Tell me what year, it helps a lot in the search
        1. depressant
          depressant 10 September 2021 19: 17
          +3
          Yandex suggested that this is a 1962 film, very old)))
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 10 September 2021 22: 05
          +3
          Good evening!
          You caused an interesting discussion, dear author!
          But excuse me, where is European cinema? In particular, French? "1 + 1" with François Cluse, isn't it worthy of mention? hi
          1. lubesky
            10 September 2021 22: 32
            +2
            Quote: Phil77
            Good evening!
            You caused an interesting discussion, dear author!
            But excuse me, where is European cinema? In particular, French? "1 + 1" with François Cluse, isn't it worthy of mention? hi

            Good evening dear! The purpose of my article was to raise an interesting discussion. As I wrote in the article, I cited as an example only those films that at DIFFERENT times influenced ME and caused a very strong impression. I agree with the endless list of great pictures in the comments! It's great that people talk about a cinema that is sadly dying. French cinema is a separate era, I agree with you completely! This is a treasure trove of thought and suggested circumstances!
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 10 September 2021 22: 50
              +3
              Thanks for the detailed answer!
              There is also an excellent 2017 film with François Cluse - "How to Skip School Usefully." An ironic-philosophical-sad-funny film. ! /, I like French cinema. And what a pity that with us, alas, there is no more magnificent Belmondo!
      2. Liam
        Liam 11 September 2021 18: 22
        +3
        Quote: depressant
        Nine days of one year. "

        The only one on this site I prefer to watch the 9 and a half weeks of the campaign. Even scary is in the circle of such advanced film intellectuals whose films raise to the cosmic heights of patriotism, education, honor the sublime pure and beautiful, love for the motherland and so on. And I prefer just about love )
        1. depressant
          depressant 11 September 2021 19: 34
          +2
          Victor, don't worry!
          No film can do without love in its various forms. So you are not alone in your preferences)))
          1. Liam
            Liam 11 September 2021 19: 41
            +1
            Serendipity or One Fine Day will give a hundred points for the emotions of all the propaganda-patriotic garbage presented as masterpieces)
            1. depressant
              depressant 11 September 2021 21: 07
              +1
              I copied the title.
              I hope I will not be disappointed)))
              1. Liam
                Liam 11 September 2021 21: 11
                0
                Then you remember these films with a smile)
        2. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 21: 54
          0
          Quote: Liam
          It is even scary to be in the circle of such advanced film intellectuals whose films raise to the cosmic heights of patriotism, upbringing, honoring the sublime pure and beautiful, love for the motherland and so on.

          laughing
          Not-not-not - "basic instinct" - this is patriotism and nothing more! All these, you know ... Sharonstone feet back and forth and all that stuff - NO!
          Only patriotism. Only chants. Only education and morality. Hardcore only. Only "Chapaev" (on Sundays - "Three poplars on Plyushchikha")
          All.
    2. 3x3zsave
      3x3zsave 10 September 2021 18: 38
      +2
      My compliments to the author! hi
      From the recent bourgeoisie, try watching Catch 22.
      1. lubesky
        10 September 2021 19: 00
        +2
        Thanks, sure!
        1. 3x3zsave
          3x3zsave 10 September 2021 19: 07
          +2
          I can also throw in a list of Western films and TV shows that I personally (and only I, in the sense, IMHO) recommend for watching.
          1. lubesky
            10 September 2021 19: 11
            +2
            With pleasure, in a personal if possible)
            1. depressant
              depressant 10 September 2021 19: 30
              +4
              The film Blade Runner made a really strong impression, it was the first one. The second is not very good, everything is chewed. Either the viewer has become more stupid, or the box office has come to the fore, focusing on the general public. The result is an eclecticism of pop and symbolism, which causes bewilderment, as if considering a patchwork quilt. In the very first film there is a powerful symbolism, the future attributing the viewer to the Second World War, the images are guessed, the film is stylistically integral.
  • Ross xnumx
    Ross xnumx 10 September 2021 19: 17
    +2
    How now our leaders lack this energetic courage, around whom we would rally, inspired, if not our own, but his dream - a strong and absolutely free leader!

    I do not know what and who is missing, but by the link:
    https://www.youtube.com/channel/UCSqiK-_faZI4YXWppF94zMQ/community
    there is a preliminary vote and it looks like this:
    1. lubesky
      10 September 2021 19: 33
      +3
      Quote: ROSS 42
      it looks like this

      I don't know about you, but I have bad memories after winning in 1996 and losing it. Maybe this is a real forecast (I myself support it), but this particular party, it seems to me, even with a real set of votes, is only able to sell these votes at a profit. This is just my opinion, I do not pretend to be true ...
    2. faiver
      faiver 10 September 2021 19: 55
      +3
      uhaha, Karaulov, the most honest man laughing
      1. depressant
        depressant 11 September 2021 07: 32
        +3
        By the way, about honesty.
        Dear Author recommended to watch Stanley Kubrick's film "Full Metal Jacket".
        I was able to watch only the first part last night.
        US Marine Corps School, recruits are being prepared to participate in the Vietnam War.
        The main characters are the Officer, the Village Rokhlya and the Clever Man. I call them that because I did not hear the names, I had to put the phone on a low volume.
        A standard beginning about the American army. The officer screams, causing general self-hatred, thus rallying everyone with the rest. A sophisticated system of humiliation, insults and violence must forge fearless fighters.
        The clever man, showing tremendous honesty and the required fearlessness in dealing with the officer, is appointed head of the squad. Rokhlya suffers, he does not succeed in exercises, which is why not he, but everyone is punished.
        A common hatred for Rokhla should also unite everyone.
        Then the director starts to break my extrapolations.
        An honest, decent Clever Man helps Rokhla overcome difficulties, but participates in beating him, obeying the law of the pack, in which he is the commander. Hence, honesty, decency is far from a criterion of high morality.
        Rokhlya, overcoming difficulties, turns out to be an excellent shooter, communication with the officer-torturer returned to normal, and now the training is over. But Rokhli's gaze has long become frightening, his smile is significant. My God, I whispered, they broke it! The good-natured guy finally learned that since he, considered weak, is humiliated and beaten, then this is the main task of the Marine - to humiliate, beat and, having a rifle in his hands, kill the weak and defenseless. In any case, those who oppose the US Marine Corps. They made him a Translator of Violence! It's like in the office - the director yells at the deputy, the latter at the engineer, the last at the foreman, and now the director’s anger is translated to the hard worker.
        But the great director breaks the line I've built! Not wanting to become the translator of American violence to the whole world, Rokhlya kills the torturer officer, and then himself. Thus, demonstrating morality of a higher order in comparison with the morality of the Clever Man, capable of adapting to the immorality of army morality.
        I will look further. Thinking that Smart Man will first continue to adapt, and then ... I don't know. Kubrick breaks ideas.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 11 September 2021 08: 20
          +3
          This is YES! This is the "analysis" of the film!
          Kirill Razlogov and Andrey Plakhov nervously smoke on the sidelines and cast withering envious glances. bully Bravo, Lyudmila Yakovlevna, I am delighted !!!
          And this is just the beginning?!?! hi
          1. depressant
            depressant 11 September 2021 09: 09
            +3
            Seryozha, do not exaggerate my capabilities. I suppose if you browse the Internet, you can find much more subtle and accurate analyzes of this film. Because from the beginning it follows that the film is great, and our critics could not ignore it.
            And I thought that Stanley Kubrick was the director of one great movie - "A Space Odyssey of 2021".
            This is if I was not mistaken in the date)))
            By the way, not so long ago, while reviewing this film, I discovered that all the broadcasters had removed the ending! Removed! But this is the whole point. The cosmos communicates with a now lonely person flying into it, reminding him of the time when he, a person, was still pure in soul - childhood! And now his soul is no longer so pure, because the multi-colored changing pictures that he, the cosmos, are no longer able to understand. And the viewer is not able to understand them, because we are not all pure in soul. This, most importantly, was removed! Not realizing that they deprived the film of meaning.
        2. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 21: 56
          0
          Quote: depressant
          By the way, about honesty.
          Dear Author recommended to watch Stanley Kubrick's film "Full Metal Jacket".

          laughing
          first let him master the Clockwork Orange.
          1. lubesky
            12 September 2021 09: 49
            0
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            first let him master the Clockwork Orange

            Do you think you have not looked "for"? Well, or explain the sarcasm, very interesting
          2. lubesky
            12 September 2021 10: 01
            0
            Quote: Ashes of Klaas
            let him master

            Is it possible that your eyes are at sunset and you are admiring your brain, naively believing that, besides you, few are capable of comprehending the most powerful works? It seems to me that if I understand you this way, you greatly overestimate yourself or strongly deny the presence of intelligence in others ...
            1. Ashes of Claes
              Ashes of Claes 12 September 2021 11: 32
              0
              Quote: lubesky
              It seems to me that if I understand you this way, you greatly overestimate yourself or strongly deny the presence of intelligence in others ...

              My dear, how, in fact, can I deny you intelligence if you have not demonstrated it? laughing I proceed exclusively from your writings. Your pubertal reflections have nothing to do with cognition, and the slavish idol-making maxim in the finale is generally a gem.
              1. lubesky
                12 September 2021 11: 38
                0
                So, you are admiring ... Well, how my, as you put it, "scribbling" is connected with my ability to evaluate and analyze "Clockwork Orange"? Let's walk through your logical construction from gastats (Zav Ap) to triarii (All-metal shell) - what connection, besides sociology, do you see between these two masterpieces? Let's say, suppose that you have a broader and deeper knowledge of the phenomenon of juvenile delinquency, the decomposition of society, the influence of the factor of parents on this problem of sociology expressed in the masterpiece "A Clockwork Orange", but how this fact prompted you to think that I am not able to understand this picture?
              2. lubesky
                12 September 2021 11: 44
                0
                To immerse yourself in an orange, you also need to go through juvenile delinquency, I went through - did you? We got to the triarii, I don’t know why you decided to show the path from simple (Orange) to complex (Shell), I don’t see any connection between the works at all. Now about the hard nut (Full metal shell), which I cannot see through, because according to yours I have not yet seen the "Clockwork Orange" (I still do not see the connection and chain from simple to complex) - for this picture you need to go through a hot spot (for comprehension and immersion), I passed - and you? (mind you - I don’t ask where and when, we just performed combat missions - yes or no). Well, in the end, if you yourself personally went through adolescent crime and hot spots, why are you denying others (complete strangers) the ability to comprehend these two masterpieces? For example, "Clockwork Orange" I would recommend as a video guide to sociology and juvenile delinquency for schools of the Ministry of Internal Affairs, Academy of the Ministry of Internal Affairs and legal faculties of some institutes.
              3. lubesky
                12 September 2021 11: 48
                0
                Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                and the slavish idol-making maxim in the finale is generally a pearl

                Believe in your personal ability of an individual to move as a part of his nation and state separately from society without leaders in some direction you know alone - your business, to call someone else's point of view - a pearl - is at least ill-mannered
              4. lubesky
                12 September 2021 12: 00
                0
                Quote: Ashes of Klaas
                Your pubertal reflections

                Although, I wildly apologize to you, if you yourself are in puberty, then yes, you are absolutely right, because arguing with you in this period, you cannot develop social intelligence in you. Here you need to work with you professionally.
  • Jonny_Su
    Jonny_Su 10 September 2021 22: 40
    +3
    It is probably appropriate to write about war films here, so
    They fought for their homeland - for the bitter transmitted feeling of retreat in their homeland.
    Checks on the roads - for responsibility for their actions and atonement.
    Only old people go into battle - for the transferred joy of battle and the bitterness of loss.
    In August 44th - for team work.
    Well, in the area of ​​special attention, of course - for the breathtaking pictures of the modern army.

    What is your favorite Western movie in general:
    Pulp Fiction - for excellent examples of male behavior.
    Star Wars - "for the fact that the film taught me to dream" (c)
    Indiana Jones - for being optimistic and finding a way out in any situation.
    1. yaglon
      yaglon 10 September 2021 23: 06
      +1
      My dad fought from 1939 to 1945. He only took the 5th episode of Star Wars strongly, when there the Alliance fighters (Norwegian infantrymen in realka) fought against the AT-AT, as if the Russian infantrymen were against the Tigers.
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 10 September 2021 23: 38
    +7
    By the way, it is strange for me, as a representative of Soviet youth, that some of those crucifying here and letting a mean soviet tear through the world cinematography did not remember and did not honor our idol by standing up:
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 11 September 2021 04: 28
      +3
      He was a good actor. And the films are good. But since we were talking about personal preferences in the comments, I prefer Pierre Richard.
      1. depressant
        depressant 11 September 2021 06: 36
        +4
        Belmondo, one of the idols.
        Already commemorated, peace be upon him! A generation of greats is leaving ...
        In the future, as some believe, instead of living actors, drawn dolls will come.
        1. Van 16
          Van 16 11 September 2021 07: 10
          +1
          So already. In the last Terminator, instead of Schwarzenegger, computer graphics. Or Call of the Wild, with Ford, instead of a live dog - the same graphics.
          1. Phil77
            Phil77 11 September 2021 08: 09
            +2
            You know Ivan. I'm calm about the cinema of France. Their cinema has always been distinguished by its originality, the ability to go directly its own way. a movie of these guys! wink
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 11 September 2021 07: 50
          +3
          No need to be sad! Sad? Yes. But the Great ones will be replaced by others, who will also be called the Great ones in their time!



          Good morning Lyudmila Yakovlevna!
          These actors are very good today!
          1. depressant
            depressant 11 September 2021 08: 35
            +3
            Good morning, Seryozha! drinks )))
            How sometimes there is not enough of your wonderful optimism on the forums! The people somehow became depressed - now there are flashes on the Sun, now as a consequence of oppressive magnetic storms, then the upcoming insulting elections ...
            Of course, over time, the actors shown by you will be called great. And it is right. The past must be sifted out, leaving the truly great out of it, for only on such a past can the great present be based. And who doesn't want that!
            For example, having sowed only galoshes from our past, we found ourselves sitting in a puddle in which galoshes are just right.
            And it remains to think - the man sifted! And what kind of sieve he had ...
            By the way, I would like to add on the thought of computer actors. I just had a thought...
            Yet the real ones are unlikely to go away at all. The minor ones will be made in the form of pixels, and the main ones - only after death. Or alive, just slightly tweaking the graphics on the screen. Do you know why?
            Because the living have a real life that is interesting to fans - hobbies, love stories, trips, performances in halls, charity, political views, home, children, biographies, scandals, press releases, videos, hobbies, much more, that is anything that raises the box office significantly. Namely - privacy. A pixel character has none of this.
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 11 September 2021 08: 45
              +3
              No, they are really very good actors! Non-"pixel". Francois Cluse is incomparable in "1 + 1", and in "How to skip school usefully." Vincent Cassel? Jean Reno? ! Yes! I have not added Christian Xavier and Mathieu Kassowitz yet, however ....? However, they have many worthy ones. And this is if not to mention the "titans of the era" - Noire, Delon, Hossein, Richard!
              1. depressant
                depressant 11 September 2021 08: 54
                +3
                Seryozha, and always in relation to France I want to use the word "great". Napoleon is great. The revolution is great. The culture is great. Maybe because the French people feel that way?
                1. Phil77
                  Phil77 11 September 2021 09: 07
                  +3
                  But this is already serious!
                  You know, probably yes. They do not "dig up" their history under the current moment, they are proud of their rulers, both past and present. They consider themselves the center of the universe, Paris for them is the city number ONE, culture is worthy of admiration. Women? Out of competition. Men? Courageous and brave. The kitchen? The best, the best! But all this from their point of view, it's just ... they are just proud of their country, their history, their-EVERYTHING! And of course-PR. We have everything / well, of course not everything, but a lot / differently. The result?
                  We watch every day.
                  1. depressant
                    depressant 11 September 2021 09: 18
                    +3
                    Yes, we have, as always, two fronts. Red and white. Reds are hostile to the white past, whites are at enmity with the Reds past ...
                    Guys, this is our common past! And it is great! Therefore, we must be one. And more than once on the forums I said that for me any citizen of Russia is valuable. Whatever mice he has in his head. He is my compatriot. I'm not ready for a feud! Ready for the greatness of the country.
                    1. Phil77
                      Phil77 11 September 2021 10: 26
                      +2
                      You know, my friend, I am surprised that WO has passed by today's anniversary of September 11! The date of the "reformatting" of the world order. Amazing! request
                      I mean, of course, the official one.
                      There is an excellent book by Thierry Meyssan "September 11, 2001". A very noteworthy version, was banned in the United States.
                      1. depressant
                        depressant 11 September 2021 10: 43
                        +2
                        Oh, this is an event! Abyss of analytics and conspiracy theories. I especially like the episode with the collapse of the "uninvolved" neighboring building. Apparently, by calculation, one of the Gemini was supposed to fall on him, but the miners out of habit worked professionally, and both Gemini settled "culturally" where they stood. I had to blow up my neighbor while fulfilling the order. Considerable time later. But to make it look like the "neighbor" is himself. Hmmm ...
                        White thread and dirty intentions worked.
                        And there was a feature film. About the rescuers. Quite ordinary, straight-through. I don't even remember the name.
                      2. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 11 September 2021 14: 46
                        +2
                        I don't even remember the name.
                        Twin Towers with Nicolas Cage.
                      3. depressant
                        depressant 11 September 2021 16: 01
                        +2
                        Yes, I remember ...
                        But the film seemed lackluster, although, I suppose, documentary footage was used. I looked - director Oliver Stone, it seems to be a magnitude, and I highly respect Cage. Maybe it was the fact that I watched the live broadcast of the attack on the towers directly, on the air. That's how lucky I was. Commented Peter Ravnov - translated the American commentator. He, Ravnov, was so shocked that he stumbled, sighed heavily and at times could not speak. He was then removed from the channel, he did not appear on TV for a long time, then he appeared on some other channel. I can't say that I was worried. I just eagerly absorbed the impressions. But Peter's excitement remained with me for the rest of my life. There was probably someone close to him in Gemini. The jumps of desperate people from the windows, from a great height, were striking. Then the collapse. The broadcast was not interrupted. NTV, it seems ... When the broadcast began, we had the afternoon, the sun was declining. Everything went slowly. Stamped in memory. No movie can reproduce the flow of those impressions and thoughts. Cinema is about a person, people. What I watched was about humanity. It was above any movie.
                      4. 3x3zsave
                        3x3zsave 11 September 2021 17: 09
                        +2
                        1. For the last 30 years I have preferred news to a "cold dish".
                        2. A couple of years later, I learned that a friend of mine had a loved one killed in the towers.
                        3. As for Cage, he is a Hollywood man by birth. His first surname is Coppola.
                      5. depressant
                        depressant 11 September 2021 18: 14
                        +2
                        I love the film "The Sign", I often watch it. Apparently, from the fall of the towers, but in connection with something earlier, it is tempting to watch the catastrophe. Not a war, but natural phenomena. Edited reports, documentaries. The cinema began to strain. Developed the habit of compressed information. Saturation of minutes. Every day I watch the video "Informant", "Pulse of the Earth", "Pain of the Earth" and others. And catching signs outside the window No, it doesn't look like it. It inspires some optimism.
                        I know about Cage. I like it anyway.
          2. Ashes of Claes
            Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 10: 28
            +2
            Quote: Phil77
            .They do not "dig" their history under the current moment, they are proud of their rulers, both past and present. They consider themselves the center of the universe, Paris for them is a city number ONE, a culture worthy of admiration. Women? Out of competition. Men? Courageous and brave. The kitchen is the best, the best!

            Sentiment and ostrichism. They can consider themselves anyone - and now let's take a look from the outside. The 20th century is a disgrace to France. Barely accidentally "won" the Great War, stupid politicians, no less stupid military construction, an awkward (to put it mildly) attempt at a post-war reconstruction of the world, a mediocre interbellum ... To the Second World War? No comments. Pole de Gaulle entered history with a clever feint, and the French collaborators cover their own shame with a cute tale about the Resistance and the victorious 70-strong army that defeated the Nazis. Well, like it used to be with the "Marne taxi".
            1. Phil77
              Phil77 11 September 2021 10: 38
              +2
              Good morning!
              All this does not prevent France from staying in the "league" of the great countries of the world, as well as us. Another thing is self-respect.
              Damn, we are slipping into politics, I would not want to. Better on the subject of cinema! hi
              1. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 11: 41
                0
                Quote: Phil77
                Damn, we are slipping into politics, I would not want to. Better on the subject of cinema!

                To cinema as a cultural phenomenon, the topic has nothing to do with it, it seems to me. Look - the branch is riddled with mentor grumbling. Most are concerned not with aesthetics, but with didactics. You see, they need educational films. In general, give some freedom here - they would pinch the teenagers' eyelids, like Kubrick Alex in Head Orange, and make them look at Kotovsky, Nevsky and other naphthalene rubbish.
            2. depressant
              depressant 11 September 2021 11: 01
              +2
              The 20th century is a disgrace to France.

              Dear colleague, who would have doubted ...
              The sadness is that people behave towards a person in accordance with how important he feels himself. Especially if his sense of self is supported by some kind of professional skills. This is the case with countries.
              Fashion, couturier, cinema, wine, cuisine, science, cars, airplanes, warships, a decent budget - what else is there in the assets of France as a former metropolis? Plus conceit. The West understands and accepts this. And also the ineradicable tradition of a huge collective protest, the ability for universal solidarity. The ability to laugh at oneself already in modern films. In Taxi, I think?
              1. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 11: 47
                +1
                Quote: depressant
                The ability to laugh at oneself already in modern films.

                Self-irony is inherent in any nat. cinema, with the exception, perhaps, of North Korean. And Chinese, if the release of the film is overseen by the party. By the way, the latter guys also have a trick to exalt their history of the mid-20th century. and turning shame into pathos.
                But, however, the elegant self-irony of the French is strictly limited. The corridor for irony, you know, has narrowed a lot in comparison with the 60s and 70s. Funnily enough, there was more freedom then.
              2. depressant
                depressant 11 September 2021 20: 12
                +1
                I had a chance to watch a sci-fi Chinese film, a spaceship. The Chinese are the saviors of the Earth, with regard to the Russian cosmonauts - harsh banter. As you harness yourself, they will ride on you. And the Chinese cinema laugh only at their own characters, which are insignificant in the social hierarchy.
              3. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 20: 51
                +1
                Quote: depressant
                sci-fi chinese movie

                Look at the military-patriotic products of the PRC. Like "8 hundred" or "City of life and death".
              4. depressant
                depressant 11 September 2021 22: 14
                +1
                There will be time, I'll see. But the Chinese superiority syndrome is somehow not enthusiastic. Although, perhaps they have a reason for it.
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 19: 34
    +1
    Quote: depressant
    The revolution is great.

    I hope you know where this little thing came from - to add the epithet "great" to the phrase "French Revolution"?
    1. depressant
      depressant 11 September 2021 20: 13
      +1
      No, colleague, I don't know.
      I'm waiting for an explanation.
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 20: 45
        +1
        Quote: depressant
        No, colleague, I don't know.
        I'm waiting for an explanation.

        Oh, it's epic. If we disregard the apocryphal liberal taunts of Herzen's times, then Comrade Kropotkin was the first to call FR as "great" in his famous book. Moreover, before the revolution of 17 it was called "great" with a small letter, and after - with a capital letter. Until in the 34th Comrade Stalin blurted out that there can be only one great revolution - it is clear which one. And the French district began to be called in textbooks simply "bourgeois". But then Comrade Stalin ordered to live a long time and build communism, and the neophytes returned the title of "great" to the FR. More precisely - Great.
        Such is the bedtime story.
        So, the French to stupid hyperboles and epithets, you know, no sideways. hi
        1. depressant
          depressant 11 September 2021 22: 11
          +1
          Are you saying that the French do not call their revolutions great?
        2. Ashes of Claes
          Ashes of Claes 12 September 2021 11: 35
          +1
          Quote: depressant
          Are you saying that the French do not call their revolutions great?

          The French do not have such an idiom - the Great French Revolution.
  • Ashes of Claes
    Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 12: 25
    +1
    Kassel in the Black Strip ..... yes. It's like noir noir ...
  • 3x3zsave
    3x3zsave 11 September 2021 14: 37
    +2
    Sergei! hi
    Jean Reno is 73 years old!
    Although in the photo you suggested, he looks younger than Vincennes Kassel.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 11 September 2021 23: 52
      +1
      Anton! But age is not in the business here. I really like Renault, but he has not yet reached the level of the legend of French cinema. So far ... at the moment ... for today. bully
  • Phil77
    Phil77 11 September 2021 07: 14
    +3
    Good morning Ivan!
    Personal addictions are sacred! hi
    But Belmondo? This is Belmondo! Magnificent !!!
    1. Van 16
      Van 16 11 September 2021 07: 38
      +3
      Kind! In his personal collection (there is one)) four or five of his films, including - "Magnificent" hi
  • Phil77
    Phil77 11 September 2021 07: 22
    +3
    Good morning!
    Yes, no, they remembered! Personally, on friends "unsubscribed" with this sad news. It's sad, of course.
    1. depressant
      depressant 11 September 2021 08: 46
      +3
      Here he is ugly, and how much charm there is in a person! )))
      Check out Stanley Kubrick's Full Metal Jacket, and revisit The Magnificent. I remember once, after watching, remembering episodes, I laughed for a week. Where is it now? There is no such thing ... Only funny animals in tik-tok sometimes cause a certain smile. The actors grimace. It looks pitiful, but someone in their youth has enough optimism and laugh at such. Laughter is now created not by the scriptwriters, but by the occasional comic of the positions in the video, and even then it is extremely rare. The writers are grim.
      1. Phil77
        Phil77 11 September 2021 08: 55
        +4
        "ugly"? Ha, ha, ha!
        And I would say, brutal! You know? I'm afraid to call him the face of all French cinema, but the fact that he is ONE OF THE BEST representatives of it? This is a fact!
        1. depressant
          depressant 11 September 2021 09: 40
          +2
          Oh, I remember that Belmondo walk down the beach in Magnificent - that long episode in which Belmondo sparkles with pumped-up bodies!
          For Soviet cinema, with its puny torsos of goodies that periodically appear on the screen, this, apparently, has become a new standard - the viewer appreciated it! wassat )))
          Let us recall the words of Chekhov that everything in a person should be fine.
          1. V means B
            V means B 11 September 2021 10: 07
            +3
            Not all Soviet films had frail torsos
            1. depressant
              depressant 11 September 2021 10: 30
              +2
              Right! Urbansky in the "Communist". Holy film.
              1. Phil77
                Phil77 11 September 2021 10: 50
                +2
                And Gaft ?! In the movie "Kings and Cabbage"?
                wink
                1. depressant
                  depressant 11 September 2021 12: 55
                  +2
                  Well .... Eremenko in "Pirates of the 20th century" seems to me more attractive.
                  Sorry if you didn't please)))
              2. Ashes of Claes
                Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 15: 09
                0
                Quote: depressant
                Urbansky in the "Communist". Holy film.

                do not exaggerate. The usual propaganda monument to the era. I don't understand at all - what kind of holiness can we talk about in relation to the Kunststyuk?
                1. depressant
                  depressant 11 September 2021 16: 13
                  +2
                  Yes, you see, colleague ...
                  This film is a monument to all the pure, devoted to the country, bright. Those who left. They were our people.
                  1. Ashes of Claes
                    Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 18: 15
                    0
                    Quote: depressant
                    They were our people.

                    It's true. At what "ours" were all. This is the specificity of civil strife. From left to right - everything our.
                    1. depressant
                      depressant 11 September 2021 18: 26
                      +2
                      This is the specificity of civil strife. From left to right - all ours.

                      And it is true. All ours. It cannot be divided into two camps, but they still exist. I see no reflection in films. Maybe I didn't come across such.
                    2. Ashes of Claes
                      Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 19: 26
                      +1
                      You know, a barricade is needed to rip off society into conventional "reds and whites". Bloody uncompromising civil conflict. The winner in it acquires the right to create myths. In recent history, these are events with neighbors. We, in turn, can express our attitude to the neighboring conflict, giving out on the mountain prop-slag like "Crimea" and others like that. But our cockroach races, presented by the Echo of Moscow as some kind of revolutionary movement, are not and will not be documented - the plot is watery. Even #the poisoning of the avaricious, as you can see, has not yet inspired anyone to "bloody KGB noir". And there is no secret: post-industrial cinema is, you know, not a fig not cinema in the sense that we put into this concept, keeping in mind Fellini, Hitchcock, Kurosawa or Parker. Now streaming platforms resonate - with the digital arsenal and tools, with the millions of bloggers (for all my squeamish attitude towards them) - intellectual cinema quietly dies in the exclusive chamber of its elite ivory tower. This is neither good nor bad - this is a new aesthetics, there is no escape.
                    3. depressant
                      depressant 11 September 2021 19: 56
                      +1
                      Liked:
                      Bloody uncompromising civil conflict. The winner in it acquires the right to create myths.

                      The right to create myths ...
                      Taking off my hat hi
                      I am most interested in reality.
                      Let's say Hollywood.
                      Taboo is a negative attitude towards the president, the "sacred cow." About a year ago I watched some regular Hollywood movie, and Bush Jr. was there. The actor was picked up - you can't tell. And what do you think? Such a lively, energetic, with a great sense of humor, quite suitable for running the state, Bush Jr. turned out! Even he. Not to mention other movie presidents.
                      But everyone else ... is criticizing everyone! Ruthlessly and sharply, including the CIA and other law enforcement agencies. The judicial system. Oligarchs. Officials of all ranks. The ulcers of society are scourging. With all their might, they raise the prestige of the best human traits and dignities. Evil is always punished, good wins, the script, the quality of the filming, the acting are often great. Where do we have that? So that after looking, I could say: "Hit on evil, hit it like that! And how recognizable everything is, typical!" No, desert.
                    4. Ashes of Claes
                      Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 20: 28
                      +1
                      Quote: depressant
                      So that after looking, I could say: "Hit on evil, hit it like that! And how recognizable everything is, typical!" No, desert.

                      laughing laughing
                      (wipes away her tears)
                      No ... I'll go and take three hundred grams of essential valerian ...
                    5. depressant
                      depressant 11 September 2021 22: 05
                      +2
                      Well, what to say ...
                      Thanks! She smiled. This is the first time I've seen such a poster with a rat. But why rock a boat that is already running aground? Swinging from the shallows cannot be removed - you can only get bogged down deeper. This is judging by the crazy plans for the construction of Shoigu-grad. I read today here, on VO, a criticism of the idea. Again, no one has tied the currency repatriation law, which was transformed into a currency easing law by two amendments. That allows by 2025 a complete non-return of currency from abroad to the Central Bank for the sale of everything and everything to foreigners, therefore, the impossibility of converting currency into rubles and taking taxes from merchants, filling the budget with them. Plus the intention to print out the money-box of the National Wealth Fund, so that under the pretext of building new cities and secretly filling the empty budget for current needs, scrubbing the NWF dry. Law on mitigation and scraping NWF. Plus the quiet export of real gold abroad (last year, bars were dropped on the takeoff field).
                      Are you picking up anything, colleague? I see a tenacious stranded. The one on which the country is already being planted. The budget will be empty, the NWF will be empty, gold will be taken out and, apparently, taken out. By the beginning of 2019, we reached the 4th place in terms of reserves, now it has already flashed in the press that we are barely holding the 5th place.
                      I don't know about you, but I see a repetition of 91. Can you start to worry? Or is it too late?
  • Serj197930
    Serj197930 11 September 2021 10: 07
    +3
    Watch the farewell to the Professional, the music from the film is playing, and the scene with the helicopter is in your mind.
    1. Phil77
      Phil77 11 September 2021 10: 52
      +2
      Good afternoon!
      The music for the film "Who's Who?" Leaves a very strong impression.
      However ... as well as the film itself. And? And the game of Belmondo!
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 12: 19
        +1
        Quote: Phil77
        The music for the film "Who's Who?" Leaves a very strong impression.

        ??
        Did you make a mistake with the movie? Who's Who has a pretty run-of-the-mill soundtrack. Although Sardis is certainly considered the titan of film music. For me, so melancholy.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 11 September 2021 23: 49
          +1
          No, I'm not mistaken. I liked this music / the beginning of the film when Borovitz drives in the car /, and in my opinion it sounds quite energetic. But the soundtrack to "The Professional" is quite, well, not melancholy, but rather philosophical, calling to reflection.
      2. Konnick
        Konnick 11 September 2021 12: 27
        +2
        However ... as well as the film itself. And? And the game of Belmondo!

        Don't forget Marie Laforêt. Now many of our actresses copy her manner of acting, without knowing that her face is without facial expressions, emotions in her eyes. And it looks great in contrast to Belmondo, who is full of facial expressions and ... eyes, on the motionless face of Marie Laforêt.
        1. Phil77
          Phil77 12 September 2021 00: 07
          +1
          No, I won't forget. These eyes? They cannot be forgotten. Just wonderful eyes!
        2. Phil77
          Phil77 12 September 2021 10: 04
          +1
          As well as ... "katechem" Borovitsa! laughing
          1. Konnick
            Konnick 12 September 2021 10: 16
            0
            And what about the Colt Python.357 Magnum?
    2. depressant
      depressant 11 September 2021 11: 05
      +1
      I haven't seen the film. I saw the ending in the trailer. In French. It is difficult to give a rating to a film, knowing only the ending. Even harder is not knowing the language.
      1. Ashes of Claes
        Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 12: 21
        +1
        Quote: depressant
        I saw the ending in the trailer.

        The ending in Who's Who? And what is so-and-so about her? A scene of a conversation between Commissioner Borowitz and his daughter?
  • iouris
    iouris 11 September 2021 13: 15
    -2
    The film "17 Moments" should have been banned. Not because they show Germans in Nazi uniforms, but because there is a strong element of special services admiring all this.
    1. Ashes of Claes
      Ashes of Claes 11 September 2021 15: 25
      +1
      Quote: iouris
      there is a strong element of intelligence admiration for it all.

      Explain.
  • Pushkar
    Pushkar 11 September 2021 19: 51
    +1
    Of the modern Hollywood war films, I would recommend Greyhound.