Provocations and slander as a way of communication between the West and Russia

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The West is in a state of collapse. The events that are taking place today have destroyed the harmonious system of the world, where the West was unambiguously the "advanced and most developed part" of humanity. Yes, and the rapidly growing economic and military power of China and Russia, the independent policy of these states, the unwillingness to march in a common column, have shaken the confidence of the Western countries in the strength and greatness of the United States.

If we consider the events of the last decade precisely from this point of view, a rather orderly chain of events is being built when this or that country, and not at all large and not at all rich, like North Korea, did not just spit in the face of the global West, it expelled a huge fleet from its territorial waters and really threatened NATO and US retaliatory actions.



History - the great science of the future. It is enough to recall the school course of this discipline in order to draw an interesting conclusion for yourself. Almost always, during periods of European crises, there was a campaign of Europeans to the East. It was not only Russia, it was the global East. But basically Europe was against us. Whoever is not in the Russian land. From knights to nazis. From almost all European nations and nationalities.

Again "Drang nach Osten"


Today anti-Russian forces have become more active in all "civilized countries".

Baltic States, Poland, Britain, Ukraine and many others. Our internal pro-Western forces also began to stir. Moreover, the demands on Russia are becoming more radical and impudent. Let us recall at least the recent demand of the NATO Secretary General that Russia "is obliged to speak more openly about its exercises and its army."

NATO openly declares its claims in the north, in the Barents Sea and on the Northern Sea Route. The voices of Polish politicians of various ranks about the return of Kaliningrad to Germany are heard loudly. On the Belarusian border, the confrontation is already threatening to turn into armed clashes. But the most important thing happens to the south. Ukraine, against the backdrop of a political, economic and moral crisis, wants a quick victory over the hated Russia.

Sometimes the question arises as to why us? Why not China?

Agree, despite the fact that it is the PRC that is winning the West economically today, the Chinese are under much less pressure than the Russian Federation. The reason, I think, is that, given that the likelihood of a retaliatory strike in the war with the PRC is an order of magnitude less, the West is simply not technically able to conduct a ground operation in this country. And the maritime borders are protected enough.

That is why, starting in 2014, the global NATO has been building up its military grouping in order to put pressure not on China, but on the Russian military grouping in the Far East. And that is precisely why the Russian Defense Ministry pays so much attention to the defense of these particular lines. The deployment of modern anti-ship missiles and air and missile defense systems came as an unpleasant surprise for the West.

Only now, let me remind readers of one elementary truth.

You cannot win by endlessly defending yourself. Especially in conditions when the enemy has a numerical, production and technical superiority. A modern victory cannot be “forged for years”. Even the most advanced and deadly weaponry comes to an end someday, and old and proven machine guns and Tanks.

It seems to me that today is the time to inform the most active "fighting cockerels" from neighboring states about their fate in the event of the outbreak of hostilities. Not to threaten, but to inform the population of these countries.

An instant and deadly response.

It is clear that no one will think about the fate of the civilian population in such a situation. As with President Putin - "the question will be about ... statehood." I would add - about the very political nation of the state.

Why NATO allows Ukraine to "shake the air" with screams


I have not written about the problem of the Black Sea region for a long time.

At the same time, he closely followed what was happening there. Strange, but unlike our military, the Russian man in the street is sure that the Black Sea is ours and all attempts of the West to somehow limit our influence on this sea are stopped by the Crimean group of the Aerospace Forces and the Black Sea Fleet.

We look at the speeches of the Ukrainian leader, we understand that the Ukrainians did not succeed in “forging a sword into a plow”, making a politician out of a clown. The stories about the traditional Ukrainian “soon” are already pretty boring and do not cause any emotions in the overwhelming majority of Russians. The little "napoleon" on the Odessa berth also has no effect on Moscow.

But then why the West is pushing Ukraine to create at least some fleet and confrontation with the Russian Federation?

It is clear that the rubbish that is sold to neighbors under the guise of warships and boats is not able to somehow change the situation at sea. It is clear that Kiev cannot produce at its own shipyards either. The industrial potential has been lost and it is no longer possible to restore it in the near future.

Alas, the Ukrainians have little interest in NATO. The years after the Maidan did their job. Instead of an independent state, a country appeared completely subordinate to the West. Not the United States, Berlin or Paris, but the West as a whole. Even unhappy little Estonia is an indisputable authority and "elder brother" or "sister" for Kiev today.

The Ukrainian president is just a talking doll. The words that we have heard many times are not the words of the President of Ukraine, but the voiced desire of the West.

Let me remind you of some of Zelensky's statements that have already been erased to holes. The Russians want to invade Ukraine from the west, from Transnistria. The Russian army is ready to attack from the territory of Belarus. LDNR is a springboard for an attack from the east. The grouping in Crimea will close the Sea of ​​Azov for Ukraine. Putin turned the Black Sea into a Russian ...

As you can see, Zelensky's statements directly copy the statements of NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, numerous American generals and generals of European armies. Here is an explanation of why Ukrainian pearls, Ukrainian fascism, Ukrainian genocide based on language and much more are forgiven to Kiev. Why the West does not notice all this. They feed the biting dog too ...

Black Sea - NATO's zone of interests


In fact, Ukraine serves NATO today.

I'm not talking about the rhetoric of Kiev. And about the numerous exercises, reconnaissance flights of NATO aircraft along the borders of Russia, the insolence of sailors who forget the laws of the sea, or interpret them the way they need it in this situation.

What will happen to Ukraine in the future, it seems to me, no longer worries anyone. For the West, this territory is not interesting either from a military or from an economic point of view. For Russia, it is a hostile state. For China, it is a thief state.

But the Black Sea, its importance for macro-policy, is well understood in NATO.

First, despite the powerful grouping of troops in Crimea, the presence of NATO ships and aviation in the waters of the Black Sea strains us. Any military aircraft, even if it is far from our territorial waters, poses a serious threat to the security of Crimea. Modern weapon allows you to strike without even entering the air or sea space of the country.

Secondly, the ships in the Black Sea make it possible with a high probability, if necessary, to quickly destroy the Mediterranean NATO grouping. In fact, the Black Sea today is a territory that provides protection to Russian ships in the Mediterranean.

Thirdly, the presence of the Russian Black Sea Fleet does not allow high-quality provision of maritime logistics in a special period. The transports will simply be sunk at the entrance to the sea. This means that there will be no supplies of equipment and weapons to allied countries like Georgia.

Fourth, it is easy to influence the Middle East through the Black Sea basin. And the significance of this region in modern geopolitics is quite great.

“By controlling this (Black Sea. - Author's note) water area, the West will be able to influence the Middle East and the Mediterranean. And this, more importantly, will weaken Russia ”,

- NATO Deputy Secretary General Mirch Joana.

There is a confrontation between intelligence


The actual state of Russia-NATO relations in this region can be described as a "quiet war" of intelligence services.

It is clear that the radio intelligence of the Crimea and adjacent territorial waters is ongoing. It is clear that our counterintelligence officers are opposing this.

In general, all types of reconnaissance are used, but the most indicative in this respect are flights of reconnaissance aircraft. To use the terminology of the Second World War, this is reconnaissance in force. The reconnaissance plane approaches the territorial waters or the territory of Russia, the Russians "open fire", that is, they take the aircraft for escort.

In parallel, air defense systems are preparing to eliminate the possible threat of an attack and destroy missiles. And at this time, satellites record the locations of military installations and the time of deployment. That's all the mechanics. By the way, intelligence acts in about the same way when provocations of warships.

I will refer to the opinion of a military expert, Colonel, Corresponding Member of the Academy of Military Sciences Sergei Sudakov:

"For comparison: in 2019, NATO aircraft approached our borders in Crimea 270 times, and this year - more than 560 times. Their main task is to" copy "the anti-aircraft and anti-ship defense systems covering the coast."

If you carefully analyze the articles in the foreign press, it becomes noticeable that the main targets of the intelligence officers of Western countries are the systems that have recently been installed on the peninsula. Anti-ship coastal complexes "Ball" and "Bastion", anti-aircraft systems "Triumph" S-400 and S-300PM, electronic warfare systems.

If we take into account the fact that the intensity of provocations has grown greatly, we can say that at the moment the prevalence of victories is on the side of Russia. NATO is being forced to risk its ships and aircraft more and more often. Realizing at the same time that in the event of any "failure", Russia is ready to act quite tough.

Briefly about the future


The confrontation in the Black Sea will continue for a long time.

In any case, as long as modern Ukraine exists, with the anti-Russian rhetoric that is so popular there, the West, through the hands of NATO, will try in every possible way to weaken Russia in this particular region. The game of cat and mouse will continue.

At the same time, the tension today has reached such a level that both sides can easily move from provocations to a real clash. This danger must be understood and known about its existence. Of course, it is not beneficial to anyone to go to an open confrontation, but, as the latest provocation of the British destroyer Defender has shown, often the fate of the world depends on the decision of one person, who does not at all belong to the powerful of this world.

This means that it is necessary to strengthen our army and navy.

It is necessary to toughly respond to the challenges of the West. The time when we forgave abominations is over. You have to answer for the words. For deeds - and even more so. Our authorities began to realize that when the punks do not answer in a language she understands (with a crack, if in Russian), she begins to become impudent. And ultimately can turn you into nothing ...
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  1. +7
    9 September 2021 04: 54
    it is necessary to strengthen our army and navy
    "The people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's"
    1. 0
      9 September 2021 07: 58
      Briefly about the future

      The confrontation in the Black Sea will continue for a long time.


      What to talk about the future , if present Terrorist attacks are already being carried out in Crimea at the suggestion of the West.
      1. +16
        9 September 2021 10: 04
        West is in a state of collapse.

        And the dollar will collapse soon! Everything is like a manual.

        Tell me how the guardians manage to combine: "The decaying West is about to be covered with a copper basin" and right there: "The Motherland is in danger!"
        1. +16
          9 September 2021 10: 12
          Quote: Stas157
          Tell me how the guardians manage to combine: "The decaying West is about to be covered with a copper basin" and right there: "The Motherland is in danger!"

          And a plus to this to have real estate in the "decaying West" and a second citizenship or, at worst, a residence permit in the "decaying West"! This is a "question of questions" for me.))))
          1. +13
            9 September 2021 15: 32
            Yes, it is clear what they want, they want to plunder this territory, and so that "dear Russians" do not riot, an external enemy is needed. Typical tactics of the bourgeoisie, in order to maintain power, they play off the peoples.
            The same in Ukraine, Azerbaijan, Armenia, etc. Only one way out Socialism!
            1. +6
              9 September 2021 15: 33
              Quote: Private 89
              Typical tactics of the bourgeoisie, in order to maintain power, they play off the peoples.

              Yes, that is right! Not so long ago I realized that the Pravda newspaper wrote the truth.)))))
              1. +3
                9 September 2021 17: 54
                This is the relationship between the poor and the rich, a raw material appendage and the metropolis. The entire elite keeps families and money over the hill.
                1. 0
                  10 September 2021 15: 50

                  Civil (Vadim)
                  This is the relationship between the poor and the rich, a raw material appendage and the metropolis. The entire elite keeps families and money over the hill.
                  Chip all of them (servants of the people) with transporters, so that everyone can see: where, which of the servants is at a given moment !!!
        2. -2
          9 September 2021 12: 23
          Tell me how the guardians manage to combine: "The decaying West is about to be covered with a copper basin" and right there: "The Motherland is in danger!" - This is what the Author described to you in the article.
          If you remember history, then a country where everything is bad inside, you just need to start a victorious war and Yes a chance to fix everything:
          1. Buzoters to the army or to repress because of an emergency or VP,
          2. Quiet for production,
          3. Economic recovery and the unification of the nation in a single impulse to fight the enemy.
          4. All debts to forgive because of the war (including enemies)
          And we are building into a bright future))
          1. +11
            9 September 2021 15: 36
            Quote: Sfurei
            If you remember history, then a country where everything is bad inside, you just need to start a victorious war and there is a chance to fix everything:

            I think that in the current situation, the "victorious war" will turn into Tsushima, which we have not yet seen.
            1. -4
              9 September 2021 16: 27
              Precisely, Tsushima can also turn out. ))
              Only I wrote not about Russia, but about the West, which is rotting and plans to unleash a war against us, which is very much combined.
        3. -5
          10 September 2021 01: 02
          Don't be stupid. In geopolitics, in terms of its scale, what is happening is the beginning of the end of the usual Western hegemony. Ukraine is already EVERYTHING. she's just slowly rotting now. And the rest of the west goes to the abyss. It's just that things like that are not a computer. the game can drag on for a long time. And when they realize that the limit has already been passed, they will easily arrange a global war. And right now they are just probing. But thanks to the instillation of various kinds of tolerance and other "values", they sink further and further. They will no longer be able to fight. There is practically no motivation. Therefore, in the end, everything will go to a nuclear war. They will no longer take the risk, like the old wild Pentagon warriors of the 60s and 80s. start a vigorous war. Now they have become more cowardly and only in words flaunt, but play out their shaky motivation on the Papuans. So that their electorate does not become discouraged at all, as after Vietnam. And the old European woman has practically lost all her teeth. No matter how much the military power of NATO may be considered, in reality they will have complete discord between the members in the event of real problems. Well, it is impossible to combine such a motley company into one whole. And the states will have to take the rap. Which they really don't want. Accustomed to using someone else's hands to climb into the heat.
    2. 0
      9 September 2021 17: 14
      Quote: SERGE ant
      "The people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's"

      This was said by the man who
      - shamefully abandoned his army in Egypt
      - killed the 600-thousandth army (about half of which were his compatriots) in Russia
      - lost his empire and was sent into exile on Elba
      - he tried to get the empire back, during which he killed a couple of tens of thousands of compatriots, suffered a crushing defeat
      - fearing revenge from grateful compatriots, voluntarily surrendered to his worst enemies
      - ended his days in exile on a microscopic volcanic island in the Atlantic Ocean.
      Needless to say, an extremely authoritative comrade.
      1. 0
        14 September 2021 12: 59
        lost his empire and was sent into exile on Elba

        Before that, he created it. Very fast and quite impressive. This is already enough to make his words worth listening to.
        1. +1
          14 September 2021 17: 09
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          Before that, he created it. Very fast and quite impressive.

          After that, no less quickly and impressively, he killed a lot of his compatriots in this army, and, in order to avoid revenge from grateful compatriots, surrendered to his worst enemies. And the enemy armies entered the capital of his country.
          Quote: Sergey Mikhailovich Karasev
          This is already enough to make his words worth listening to.

          Sufficiently enough.
  2. -7
    9 September 2021 04: 57
    I would tell them that in the event of any clash with NATO, the United States and Great Britain will immediately receive a guaranteed salvo from R36M missiles, and then as appropriate.
    1. -1
      9 September 2021 05: 10
      Not to threaten, but to inform the population of these countries.
      An instant and deadly response.
      Always thought so - a country in NATO? This means a legitimate target for Russian nuclear, and not only, weapons.
      1. 0
        9 September 2021 05: 36
        Vladimir. You probably didn't get enough sleep. Some NATO countries do not have nuclear weapons on their territory. Why are they so? Only strong nerves and timely answers will do the trick.
        1. 0
          9 September 2021 05: 39
          Quote: nikvic46
          Some NATO countries do not have nuclear weapons on their territory. Why are they so?
          All NATO countries, except France, have US army bases on their territory, do you think they cannot deploy there, even in peacetime, anything without the knowledge of these countries?
        2. 0
          9 September 2021 05: 40
          Oh yes, the doctrine spelled out the possibility of a nuclear strike in response to a non-nuclear massive threat to the existence of Russia.
          1. +1
            10 September 2021 06: 55
            Quote: Vladimir_2U
            Oh yes, the doctrine spelled out the possibility of a nuclear strike in response to a non-nuclear massive threat to the existence of Russia.

            I would like to remind you that the USSR ceased to exist thanks to the activities of the high-ranking party and Soviet nomenklatura. Look for the sake of curiosity who stood at the head of the union republics during the famous Parade of Sovereignties. This was precisely the very "non-nuclear massive threat" to the existence of the USSR, and this threat was fully realized. In the event that such a threat repeats itself, it will have to in accordance with the doctrine
            to inflict nuclear strikes on Russian regions, and even on Moscow.
            1. 0
              10 September 2021 07: 12
              Quote: Sergey1964
              then it was precisely the same "non-nuclear massive threat" to the existence of the USSR

              A good example, but not entirely correct, because the doctrine deals with an external threat.
              Oh yes, and this threat was not massive, and with the proper will it would be stopped "pointwise", with an individual approach, so to speak.
              1. +3
                10 September 2021 07: 25
                Quote: Vladimir_2U
                A good example, but not entirely correct, because the doctrine deals with an external threat.

                You have calmed me down. I would not like to receive a nuclear strike on my native Krasnoyarsk if the Association of Siberian and Far Eastern Cities decides to secede from the Russian Federation.
                As for the external threat, China is clearly asking for it. The only country that has territorial claims to Russia and has a land army capable of blitzkrieg in the Far East and Siberia.

                However, in the 20th century, the Russian Empire (if the USSR is considered its continuation) ceased to exist twice - and both times for purely internal reasons.
        3. +2
          9 September 2021 08: 06
          Nikolay Malyugin. Basically I agree with you, but I don't understand something. In terms of "strong nerves" - to be smarter and not to succumb to provocations - this is understandable, although it is not known whether our decision-makers know where that fine line separates provocation from real preparation for war. Before World War II, calls not to succumb to provocations sounded from Olympus itself. And look how it happened! Further about timely responses, I would like to know what you mean. If we talk about the answers "rhetorical" - then that's all right. But about such answers, which really made our counterparts think and stop provocations, is not heard. And A. Staver is right, because someday just something will go wrong and flare up, and no one needs it. I thought for a long time, in your words, about what a "timely response" could be, but I didn't really come up with it. Demonstration of strength in exercises? But I am sure that our enemy knows our capabilities, and they do not shy away from provocations! What then?
    2. 0
      9 September 2021 08: 22
      Quote: Pessimist22
      I would tell them that in the event of any clash with NATO, the United States and Great Britain immediately receive a guaranteed salvo from R36M missiles.


      You can say that what , but we will not hit right away with a vigorous loaf No. and the West too Yes
      1. -2
        9 September 2021 12: 28
        PiK / And who informed you that we won't throw a vigorous loaf right away? For example, next to my home (well, in Siberia, 100 km is not a distance), no one in the RVSN division tells tales about a retaliatory strike ... They are preparing for the first ... wink
        1. +7
          9 September 2021 12: 50
          Why do Russians have such suicidal tendencies? Do you feel sorry for your loved ones? Russians in general? It is not very comfortable to live on nuclear ashes.
          1. -4
            9 September 2021 12: 57
            Yes, I didn’t feel sorry for either the burghers or the amerikosov - they were the first to hit the answer, there will be fewer answers. Have you tried to look from this side?
            1. +10
              9 September 2021 14: 15
              From this side, even Khrushchev and Kennedy tried to look. Mutual Destruction Guaranteed? No major Russian city will survive such a war. And there are big doubts that the Russian state will survive in general. The victims among the Russians will be in the tens of millions, and those who remain will live in hunger and need. Why do you dislike Russians so much? Are you from Ukraine?
              1. -5
                9 September 2021 14: 51
                And where is the Strategic Missile Forces on the outskirts? Do not tell me? Caribbean Crisis-Kennedy removed the placed missiles with Yazu from Turkey and canceled the "drop shot" The last real plan of the State Department -Nuclear bombing of almost 40 cities of the USSR. all further
                the development of such actions was theoretical. This is how a life-giving kick acts on the United States.
                1. +2
                  9 September 2021 16: 48
                  Quote: Siberian54
                  And where is the Strategic Missile Forces on the outskirts? Could you tell?

                  If it did, Crimea would still be Ukrainian and there would be no war in Donbass. It's just not clear why you hate Russians so much, if you want to drag Russia into a devastating war in which there will be no winners and in which the very existence of the country will be called into question? What have we done to you?
                  Quote: Siberian54
                  Cuban Missile Crisis-Kennedy removed the deployed Yazu missiles from Turkey and canceled the "drop shot" the last real plan of the State Department -Nuclear bombing of almost 40 cities in the USSR.

                  What does this have to do with hitting first? The Americans initially did not intend to fight the USSR, their plan was not a military victory, but containment and was successfully implemented.
                  1. 0
                    10 September 2021 20: 22
                    Who informed you about this holding? "drop shot" provided a signal to start the implementation of the plan, as, for example, Hitler's in the forties .. For those who followed the "Caribbean podzhopnik" this signal was absent .. Can you catch the difference?
                    1. +1
                      10 September 2021 22: 51
                      Quote: Siberian54
                      Who informed you about this holding?

                      A certain George Frost Kennan. In his famous "Long Telegram" he outlined the essence of this doctrine.
                      The dropshot is generally a defensive plan, but not the essence. Until the early 60s, the USSR did not have the opportunity to retaliate against the United States, but the signal did not follow. Can you catch the difference?
                      So you didn’t answer why you want to turn all large cities of Russia into radioactive ruins?
                      1. -1
                        11 September 2021 00: 02
                        They have a study, according to the previous plan (too lazy to look for the name), the "drop shop" did not strike because of the unacceptably large losses of aviation during the first raid, up to 70% of irrecoverable losses and the risk that the pilots of the second wave would simply refuse to obey the order
                      2. +4
                        11 September 2021 05: 01
                        Quote: Siberian54
                        the "drop shop" did not strike because of the unacceptably large losses of aviation during the first raid

                        A shop is a store. The plan was called Dropshot, and, as you have already been informed, it was purely defensive - in case of an invasion of Soviet troops into Western Europe. Since the USSR did not invade Western Europe, they did not strike a blow.
                      3. -1
                        11 September 2021 15: 36
                        What gentle Americans, they want to destroy the USSR, but they were afraid to lose a hundred pilots. I am sure that the Americans guessed that the USSR was building up its nuclear potential and that the day is not far off when the Union will be able to strike back. And what were they waiting for?
                        I'm interested in U2 flying over the USSR like at home, B52 certainly flew lower, but still it is not clear how it could be obtained. There were already all sorts of Jupiter and Torah in Turkey, Italy, England. An air-launched cruise missile has already been adopted. And the loss of pilots is 70%.
                        Quote: Siberian54
                        -the first hit the answer will be less

                        I hope you understood, let's call a spade a spade, that this is utter nonsense and this "lesser" response wakes up enough to destroy Russia.
                      4. +7
                        11 September 2021 05: 13
                        Quote: burger
                        So you didn’t answer why you want to turn all large cities of Russia into radioactive ruins?

                        Such characters are sincerely convinced that only enemy cities will turn into radioactive ruins. And the mentioned characters will sit in front of the TV with a bottle of beer and watch a colorful show.

                        In general, it's funny how mass psychology has changed in the Russian Federation in comparison with the USSR. In the USSR, I remember, there was a slogan "If only there was no war." Now it would be called a meme, even entered into ditties. In the Russian Federation, the slogan "We can repeat". Probably, this change of slogans is due to the fact that veterans were still alive in the USSR, who knew from personal experience what war was, and the entire leadership of the USSR also went through the war. And now there are practically no veterans left, and the current generations represent the war on computer games and vigorous TV reports.
                  2. -1
                    13 September 2021 01: 32
                    Quote: burger
                    If it did, Crimea would still be Ukrainian and there would be no war in Donbass.

                    The Strategic Missile Forces in Ukraine can only imagine one case - if Ukraine becomes part of Russia. And certainly the Strategic Missile Forces does not give any guarantees that there will be no civil wars like the one in Donbas.
                    1. -1
                      13 September 2021 10: 21
                      Quote: Vasia
                      The Strategic Missile Forces in Ukraine can only imagine one case - if Ukraine becomes part of Russia.

                      As far as I remember, after the collapse of the USSR, some nuclear forces remained on the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine abandoned them in exchange for guarantees of its territorial integrity. Yes, it is difficult to imagine that the "West" and the Russian Federation would allow them to leave it.
                      Quote: Vasia
                      And certainly the Strategic Missile Forces does not give any guarantees that there will be no civil wars like the one in Donbas.

                      It guarantees against outside interference.
                      1. 0
                        13 September 2021 19: 14
                        Quote: burger
                        It guarantees against outside interference.

                        Most of the time, but not always. In the event of civil conflicts on its territory, inspired and fueled from the outside, it will not work. In the event of conflicts with such structures as the banned Taliban or IS, no one will use nuclear weapons.
            2. -1
              11 September 2021 10: 54
              neither the burghers nor the amerikosov did not feel sorry for them - they hit the first there will be fewer responses
              Burgers and Americans are far less sensitive to the loss of large cities. For example, the 20th Tonner in France has an infrastructure no worse than the Russian millionaire, and they do not live there in human settlements, but in private houses with plots. And having destroyed Paris, the Aerospace Forces will burn several million colored people - a potential fifth column. And no videoconferencing will be enough to burn out all 20-thousanders in Europe and the USA. And in Russia, the loss of several large cities means the transformation of the country into a kind of archipelago.
              1. -2
                14 September 2021 13: 32
                And no videoconferencing will be enough to burn out all 20-thousanders in Europe and the USA.

                And it is not necessary. Residents will scatter themselves from radioactive contamination.
                several million colored - a potential fifth column.


                Whose fifth column is it? Ours? There is no reason to consider colored and other refugees in Europe our potential allies.

                And in Russia, the loss of several large cities means the transformation of the country into a kind of archipelago.

                In Europe, million and 20 thousand people are closely related to each other. If they were autonomous, Europe would have already become an archipelago. So the same fate awaits them.
                1. +2
                  14 September 2021 13: 34
                  How many years have you lived in Europe?
                  1. -2
                    14 September 2021 13: 38
                    Well, I didn't live there, so what? There are acquaintances who still live there. And they didn't ban me on Google. Make the deal already!
                    1. +2
                      14 September 2021 13: 40
                      Well, I didn't live there, so what?
                      The dispute about the taste of oysters can be considered closed.
                      There are acquaintances who live there now
                      Caruso himself did not hear, but Rabinovich sang something laughing
                      1. -2
                        14 September 2021 13: 46
                        Very informative. I have not yet flown into space, but if I write that there is no oxygen, and the Earth is round, will you question this too?
                        PS. But I ate oysters, so don't rush to close the argument about the taste of oysters. tongue Shall we continue, or will you continue to defecate in wit? In fact, do you have something to say?
                      2. +2
                        14 September 2021 13: 57
                        As a matter of fact
                        1. A significant part of the population of even large cities "there" lives in small houses, that is, dispersed.
                        2. The destruction of large cities is not at all so scary for Western Europe, because the medical infrastructure in small towns is not worse - hospitals in Hastings or Tonnere are equipped in every way no worse than hospitals in Moscow. Supply warehouses are all in small towns. And to bomb out (air explosions of modern bombs do not give radiation contamination, otherwise why fight if the territory is poisoned) all the small towns of decaying Yes The West is unrealistic. The network of transport interchanges there is also such that it is not necessary to travel through the affected centers. Now compare with Russian realities, where the destruction of several million people will turn the country into divided regions and deprive a significant part of the population.
                        But I ate oysters
                        They only came to me with tequila, nothing special.
                      3. -2
                        14 September 2021 14: 12
                        Here are just the capitals with all the central authorities in Europe are located in the million. And what will happen if the entire central government turns to ash? Well, local municipalities will take full power over themselves, but only within the controlled territory. And resource reserves and infrastructural possibilities will also be limited by the territory. I doubt that they will be able to organize cooperation and operational maneuver with resources. And what will happen if the remnants of the surviving colored people rush to the provinces from the millionaires? Let them be few, but they are close-knit and aggressive, which cannot be said about the indigenous inhabitants. Hello Anarchy Archipelago! Again, the source of income for many residents of 20 residents is in the million-plus population. Although, what kind of income in such a situation can be discussed.
                        PS From oysters, I was also not delighted.
                      4. +2
                        14 September 2021 14: 21
                        they are close-knit and aggressive, which cannot be said about the indigenous inhabitants
                        They feel safe only because (paradox) the law is on their side - for any unfriendly movement in their direction, you are white - go to jail, get a sickly fine and a criminal record. If this does not happen, the British and French themselves will hang the mambudas on the lanterns. By the way, there are fewer of them than there are Tajiks in Russia.
                      5. -2
                        14 September 2021 17: 22
                        Aha! Those. the law that privileges colored people will go down the drain. And the rest will surely act? IMHO, no. And this is already anarchy.
                        You have forgotten about the factor of general panic that will engulf the population of a country that has been subjected to a massive nuclear strike. In general, it is difficult to predict the psychological reaction of each individual in such a situation. Someone will fall into prostration, someone will demolish the attic, and someone will engage in meaningful activities aimed at their survival. Warehouses, you say? So in the first hours they will be smashed by marauders. The vaunted hospitals will drown only from the flow of heart attacks and strokes due to shock. And not only ordinary citizens will panic, but also local authorities.
                        It would be easier for the military to take control of everything. But the megatons will primarily fly to them, and not to the millionaires. And military facilities are located in the province. So you shouldn't think that the province will get off with only fright. And the remaining military will have many other tasks besides maintaining order on the territory of the country.
                        Now imagine a relatively surviving piece of a province in Europe. You are the local mayor. You quickly took control of local warehouses with everything necessary for the life support of the local population for N years and rationally provide the population from these warehouses. But a crowd of refugees from the affected regions came to you. If you take them for ration, the warehouses will quickly become empty. So, what is next? Everyone is saved as best he can? Or do you order to shoot at the citizens of his country for wanting to survive? So much for the transformation of the country into
                        divided areas

                        PS I do not think that after a nuclear war Russia will need the territory of Europe. Nobody here will deal with the issue of its post-war viability. So the explosions will not necessarily be aerial.
                      6. +1
                        14 September 2021 17: 27
                        after a nuclear war, Russia will need the territory of Europe.
                        After a nuclear war, Russia simply will not, the damage will be irreparable. And the Europeans and especially the Americans have a higher margin of safety. But since you have all the information about Europe and the United States from the pseudo-patriotic media, you simply will not understand this.
                      7. -2
                        14 September 2021 17: 35
                        Will Europe stay with the United States? Well, well ... You shouldn't think that there won't be enough warheads for everyone.
                        Actually, I wrote about something else.
                        transformation of the country into a kind of archipelago.

                        Europe will not avoid this.
                        And I did not compare the relative population losses. I knew without you that after a nuclear war nothing good awaited us. But not only us.
          2. -7
            9 September 2021 14: 28
            but you do not meddle with us, and you will not receive ashes from your cities. hi Yes, the war will be for destruction, so be aware that not only Russia will suffer (with its area and population density), but also from your countries, which on the territory of my Amur region will accommodate up to several dozen with a disproportionately large population (which means you, the number of victims will go to many tens of millions), there will be nothing left at all. soldier
            1. +3
              9 September 2021 17: 25
              Quote: VORON538
              do not meddle with us

              And someone climbs to us? It's imperceptible here in Krasnoyarsk. In a sense, there are quite a lot of guest workers (mostly from Tajikistan, as far as I can tell), but there is no harm from them, on the contrary, there is benefit.
              Quote: VORON538
              on the territory of my Amur region

              And who climbs into the Amur region? German, French and British farmers, or mainly urban dwellers of these countries? I'm really interested. Even Russians from European Russia are not eager to join us in the Krasnoyarsk Territory - and, as I understand, you have an influx from Western Europe.
              1. 0
                10 September 2021 20: 28
                In Krasnoyarsk, there are probably more Chinese than Tajiks .. We must disguise our spies somehow.
                1. +2
                  11 September 2021 04: 55
                  Quote: Siberian54
                  In Krasnoyarsk, there are probably more Chinese than Tajiks .. We must disguise our spies somehow.

                  The Chinese (neither southern nor northern) are unlike Tajiks. I have been to China many times for work, so keep in touch. And in general, there are few Chinese in Krasnoyarsk (I mean the dock-like times, now I don't see them at all). And they have nothing special to do here, especially since the standard of living in China is now higher than in the Russian Federation. Usually they go to those countries where the standard of living is higher, and not vice versa. At one time there were relatively many Chinese (they rented land for growing vegetables or traded in Chinese goods), and then gradually began to disappear.
            2. +2
              9 September 2021 17: 38
              Of course, I heard that separatist sentiments are strong beyond the Urals, but so ...
              Did you have geography at school? The Russian Federation will not be able to accommodate itself in your Amur Region; moreover, the Amur Region is part of the Russian Federation.
              Quote: VORON538
              with a disproportionately large population

              Are you talking about the Chinese? Well, yes, well, yes, in the event of a conflict with the Russian Federation with the "west" in the Amur region, many Chinese will be able to accommodate, you cannot argue with you.
            3. -4
              11 September 2021 10: 58
              your number of victims will go to many tens of millions
              As a rule, the Western European population is distributed over an area that cannot be bombed out. But Russian cities with their human beings (in Europe, yesterday's refugees are settled in such places), in this situation, are really dangerous for their inhabitants
    3. +1
      10 September 2021 06: 20
      Quote: Pessimist22
      a salvo from R36M missiles, and then according to circumstances

      Moreover, the circumstances are already known. Then you personally (if you are not lucky to immediately turn into ash) will not sit in a comfortable chair in front of a computer, but will slowly die from burns and / or radiation sickness somewhere in the basement of a destroyed building. And no one will come to your aid - since those who could help you (on duty or at the call of the heart) will also die from burns and / or radiation sickness.
  3. +4
    9 September 2021 05: 02
    They should touch China, what to shoot in their hands and feet ..... They have taken up to 70% of their production capacity there, almost the entire textile and light industry, so that China is like a holy "cow", like "cattle" and brings "milk" ..... Sorry "KESEF" wassat
  4. +5
    9 September 2021 05: 42
    Russia and China are beneficial as a "bogey". Both Russia and China are part of the global market, part of the global capitalist system. What kind of threat to the West can we talk about if our bourgeoisie, that is. Capital holders do not live in the Russian Federation. Half of the members of the Government and their families have dual and triple citizenship. Whose interests are served by such a management system? People? Yes, it’s unlikely. Therefore, they paint a picture of the threat of war. It is very beneficial
  5. +10
    9 September 2021 05: 45
    The West is in a state of collapse.


    Collapse - Severe crisis in the economy and social life of the country; socio-economic disaster.

    But the word is beautiful, I agree. You can shove it in.

    Moreover, the demands on Russia are becoming more radical and impudent. Let us recall at least the recent demand of the NATO Secretary General that Russia "is obliged to speak more openly about its exercises and its army."


    Horror. Horror. This requirement even surpasses the famous "Danzig or War".

    What will happen to Ukraine in the future, it seems to me, no longer worries anyone.


    Undoubtedly. Therefore, on TV, Ukraine is the number one topic, Putin writes an article about it, and any sneeze of some Svidomo official’s coming out causes heated discussion. And so everyone is indifferent to her, yeah.



    Let me remind you of some of Zelensky's statements that have already been erased to holes. The Russians want to invade Ukraine from the west, from Transnistria. The Russian army is ready to attack from the territory of Belarus. LDNR is a springboard for an attack from the east. The grouping in Crimea will close the Sea of ​​Azov for Ukraine. Putin turned the Black Sea into a Russian ...

    As you can see, Zelensky's statements directly copy the statements of NATO Secretary General Jens Stoltenberg, numerous American generals and generals of European armies. Here is an explanation of why Ukrainian pearls, Ukrainian fascism, Ukrainian genocide based on language and much more are forgiven to Kiev. Why the West does not notice all this. They feed the biting dog too ...



    Ukrainian fascism, genocide and other gems are the same informational accompaniment as the words of the "clown".
    The propaganda is carried out by everyone.
    Is money allocated to RT, BBC, CCN and other media dumpsters?



    If we take into account the fact that the intensity of provocations has increased greatly, we can say that at the moment the prevalence of victories is on the side of Russia


    Provocations are commonplace in international tension.
    "The destroyer entered the waters"
    "The Russian plane imitated bombing, flew next to the American plane, etc."

    It's like monkeys, when they look at each other and beat threateningly on the chest, while making threatening sounds at the same time.

    This means that it is necessary to strengthen our army and navy.


    True, it was precisely another 20 thousand tanks and missiles that the USSR lacked.

    It is necessary to toughly respond to the challenges of the West. The time when we forgave abominations is over. You have to answer for the words. For deeds - and even more so. Our authorities began to realize that when the punks do not answer in a language she understands (with a crack, if in Russian), she begins to become impudent. And ultimately can turn you into nothing ...


    Of course, all this is not by concept.
    1. +8
      9 September 2021 07: 46
      The article is universal, over the past 5-7 years. You can just periodically insert it into the (analytics) section, well, once every half a year. And everyone is good - the patriots nod, the author has done his job.
      Well, just, periodically, check the "tense" regions - western or eastern ...
      1. -10
        9 September 2021 08: 03
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        The article is universal, over the past 5-7 years. You can just periodically insert it into the (analytics) section, well, once every half a year.


        This is exactly so. Yes which is not surprising.

        In general, such theses will be relevant as long as the West and its vassals (in particular the aforementioned Kiev regime), in one way or another, give up provocations and attempts to force pressure on us.
        1. +5
          9 September 2021 09: 18
          And much on you crush? Force pressure. In which place? Especially the west.
          1. -5
            9 September 2021 11: 44
            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            And they put a lot of pressure on you? Force pressure. In which place?

            On the Crimean peninsula Ukraine - a puppet of the West, several terrorist attacks were committed at infrastructure facilities and an attempt was made to penetrate an armed sabotage group of the GUR of Ukraine, which ended in an armed clash, the same clash in the Belgorod region. And both skirmishes with the dead on both sides.

            Quote: Leader of the Redskins
            Especially the west.


            There, in the Crimea, the British Navy's emissary violated the border of the Russian Federation.

            Britain is not the West for you, and such provocations, in sum, are not an element of military pressure?
            1. -1
              9 September 2021 14: 18
              Such actions, under the Union there was a wagon and a small cart. Plus regular border violations, espionage, etc.
              But with such pathos even in the program "time" was not spoken.
              1. -5
                9 September 2021 17: 52
                Quote: Leader of the Redskins
                Such actions, under the Union there was a wagon and a small cart. Plus regular border violations, espionage, etc.
                But with such pathos even in the program "time" was not spoken.

                It looks like you are mentally stuck in time before the fall of the USSR and the Warsaw Pact, believing that we still have some kind of buffer from some even nominal allies.

                I will make you sad Yes , NATO is already in the Baltics and consider that in Ukraine ...

                But of course you don't understand this?
                1. +1
                  10 September 2021 08: 36
                  "But of course you don't understand this?" - everything is clear to us. But you apparently have not been able to grasp the reasons that the country no longer has a buffer of "some, even nominal allies," as well as allies in general.
                  Well, rake-walking is an old national pastime.
          2. 0
            11 September 2021 11: 46
            In which place? Especially the west.
            They gave themselves, nonhumans, unemployment benefits the size of the average Russian salary. And how to live with such pressure now wassat ?
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    1. +4
      9 September 2021 07: 19
      Well, I confused it with the water area. laughing
  7. +7
    9 September 2021 06: 11
    Our internal pro-Western forces also began to stir.
    This is you about the decree allowing to accept into government service without access to state secrets of Russians who have foreign citizenship, if it is impossible to refuse it. laughing
    1. +6
      9 September 2021 06: 13
      He's out of habit.
      The term "fifth column, internal enemies" is already part of the ritual. Mandatory words, even if they don't make any sense.
      1. +1
        10 September 2021 08: 43
        Why don't they make sense? From the point of view of the "elites", all who threaten the stability of the established power elite are internal enemies who must be isolated in one way or another. Since this elite associates itself with the state, it is not just enemies, but "enemies of the state." And how can such a wonderful state have internal opponents? Therefore, everyone who is dissatisfied - agents of the State Department, NATO, etc.
  8. +2
    9 September 2021 06: 28
    The fact that the Black Sea is ours, one should have thought when they signed the Belovezhskaya agreement. If we talk about the pro-Western forces in Russia, these forces were set in motion with the help of the Central Bank. 900 billion rubles invested in foreign companies. 31 billion dollars are in the hands of Russians. . This and deposits in dollars, and the purchase of bonds, and in "mattresses". And now my own opinion. As long as the army exists for money, there is no future. And the army should be fed by an ordinary school. And not four-story elite schools. The very existence of such schools takes away a lot of money from the rest.
  9. +7
    9 September 2021 06: 39
    First, after the destruction of the common enemy, the USSR, the enemies of the communists in the West, in Europe, on the territory of the USSR proved that they still cannot live without the "image of the enemy."
    Secondly, after the destruction of the USSR, they proved that anti-Sovietism is always equal to Russophobia, that they will always hate any Russia, with any power and any social system.
    1. -11
      9 September 2021 06: 57
      Anti-Sovietism is not equal to Russophobia.

      It's just that the commies are trying to follow the trend of “offending Russian people” while it is still popular.
      1. +11
        9 September 2021 07: 15
        What did you, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people "liberated" by Gorbachev, immediately begin to do?
        And to expel Russians from the national republics of the USSR that you captured, to kill them, to rape Russian women and girls, and in Russia itself, you immediately began to destroy not only Soviet, but also Russian, and instill foreignism everywhere. You began to instill in the Russian people a complex of guilt and inferiority, that they have nothing to be proud of in their history, and they only need to "repent" for those "crimes" that you invent for them. You brought up the young Russian generation on cosmopolitanism, on hatred for the history of your country.
        And you cannot name a single real Russophile from your anti-Soviet clique.
        1. -9
          9 September 2021 07: 26
          "Who you are, who you are, I'm the only one here" (c)

          I myself am a cosmopolitan and I believe that the future belongs to a single humanity without borders, without borders and without capitalists with the "fathers of nations".

          Russians do not have any inferiority complex, they quite energetically and fiercely oppose themselves to the whole world, talking about their path and uniqueness.

          Is this behavior typical of people with an inferiority complex?

          The Russians were expelled by the same yesterday's Soviet Komsomol internationalists. Because the Council of Deputies is the essence of a hypocritical state with the cultivation of nationalism at the state level.
          And the number of wars, interethnic conflicts and mutual claims is a vivid confirmation of this.

          Russophile and communist are antonyms. You will sort out your preferences.
          You are a communist or a supporter of Zyuganov, who beats obeisances in churches, talks about Jesus as a communist and flirts with the Nazis.
          1. +5
            9 September 2021 07: 40
            Enough to answer on the cowardly principle of "myself". Russophiles are those who have done a lot for Russia and the Russian / Russian people, or at least proved that they are for the best for Russia and the Russian / Russian people. And among you, Russian / Russian enemies of the USSR, there are none.
            And you, with your cowardly whine that you had nothing to do with your seizure of the RSFSR, and what you did with Russia and the Russian / Russian people, YOURSELF proved that you captured the RSFSR for criminal purposes, and what you did with Russia and its people are your crimes.
          2. +5
            9 September 2021 07: 42
            Quote: Cat
            I myself am a cosmopolitan and I believe that the future belongs to a single humanity without borders, without borders and without capitalists with the "fathers of nations".


            If we follow your theory: then soon we will all live surrounded by immigrants from Africa and the East. And for them your theory is unacceptable, and having a numerical advantage in the region of residence, you will become their slave.
        2. -1
          11 September 2021 11: 50
          expel Russians from the national republics of the USSR that you captured, kill them, rape
          In the Baltic States, Russians were not killed or raped, (and they were not expelled), but they (that is, we) are hated most of all. And for Asians, trains are provided to enter the Russian Federation. And pensions good
      2. -1
        9 September 2021 10: 04
        Anti-Sovietism is not equal to Russophobia.

        Give an example when a Russophobe is anti-Soviet.
        1. +1
          9 September 2021 13: 12
          Quote: Garrett
          Give an example when a Russophobe is anti-Soviet.

          Kravchuk, Kuchma and other presidents of Ukraine are anti-Soviet and Russophobes. Of the foreign ones I don't even want to remind them, they are just a sea, starting with Brzezinski, Sharansky and other leaders of different countries and peoples.
          Are you really table naive, or are you just pretending to ask a similar question?
          1. 0
            10 September 2021 11: 22
            I missed the prefix "not" laughing sorry
    2. 0
      9 September 2021 07: 27
      Tatra
      You call the Western Russophobes enemies of the Communists out of habit? And in my opinion, they really loved our social system in the 90s.
  10. +12
    9 September 2021 06: 55
    Enemies are everywhere. NATO members piss in the entrances, arrange traffic jams. Take a fare. Even the retirement age was raised. Now I will go to work, I will pass by bombed kindergartens. And in the country, as occupiers, the Russian language is almost inaudible.
    1. +8
      9 September 2021 07: 17
      A summary of the article in one picture ...
      1. +12
        9 September 2021 07: 37
        Quote: Leader of the Redskins
        A summary of the article in one picture ...

        Well, Duc by the author of Staver, Th from him to take a staple. I am surprised how he did not fill the topvar with campaign articles for the indelible ones before the elections - probably they were surrounded by orders. laughing
    2. +4
      9 September 2021 07: 18
      Both funny and disgusting. The enemies of the USSR in the West in Europe, are waging an information war against the enemies of the USSR who seized the RSFSR, according to the same manuals according to which the enemies of the USSR, who seized the RSFSR, have been waging their information war against the USSR and the Soviet people for 30 years.
      1. +5
        9 September 2021 07: 37
        Quote: tatra
        Enemies of the USSR in the West ..., are waging an information war against the enemies of the USSR who have seized the RSFSR ... according to the same methodology by which the enemies of the USSR ... are waging their information war against the USSR and the Soviet people

        She twirled her eyes into a bunch. laughing
        There is no way to just say that: "The war against Russia is waged using the same methods as against the USSR". But then it will be necessary to admit that someone does not allow the West to carry out its plans to destroy Russia, like the USSR and this someone ... guess three times. Hint - these are not communists, they destroyed the USSR and give them freedom, they and Russia will fall apart.
        1. -1
          9 September 2021 07: 47
          Do not lie . It was YOU, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people, who destroyed the USSR, and it was YOU who imposed your tricolor on the RSFSR in 1991.
          And do not distort my words for your benefit.

          The information war waged by the Russian enemies of the USSR against the USSR and the Soviet people, and which the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people are waging against them in the West and in Europe is whipping up hysteria, throwing a heap of slanderous and unsubstantiated accusations of crimes, exposing facts for their crimes that the enemies of the USSR in all other cases justify or "do not notice" the eternal double standards - "and this is different."
          1. +5
            9 September 2021 07: 56
            Quote: tatra
            It is YOU, the enemies of the USSR and the Soviet people destroyed the USSR

            Who exactly destroyed the USSR: Khrushchev, Brezhnev, Gorbachev, Yeltsin - all of them were communists and not just communists, but the most advanced workers, the best of the best of 19 mil. communists.

            Quote: tatra
            this is whipping up hysteria, throwing a heap of slanderous and unsubstantiated charges of crimes

            That is, in your opinion, it turns out that when the USSR was falling apart, the West was telling the truth? laughing

            "Reducing great phenomena to small, and exalting small to great - is a true mockery of life" - M.E. Saltykov-Shchedrin
            1. -4
              9 September 2021 08: 17
              That is, you, the enemies of the communists and the USSR, have no right to own the RSFSR / Russia, and if someone wants to seize it, you have no right to resist?
              1. +4
                9 September 2021 08: 24
                Quote: tatra
                That is, you, enemies of the communists and the USSR

                Stop. Flies separately, and cutlets separately. I am for the Bolsheviks, you are for the Communists.

                I am for the Stalinist USSR. I am against the USSR, into which the enemies turned it, the world's first state of workers and peasants, into a state of party nomenklatura.
                1. -6
                  9 September 2021 08: 28
                  Ha, the cowardly twisting has begun. If the enemies of the communists "have nothing to do with anything" to account for your seizure of the RSFSR, then you yourself have denied the right to own the RSFSR / Russia.
                  And all the best.
                  1. +3
                    9 September 2021 08: 30
                    Quote: tatra
                    If the enemies of the communists "have nothing to do with it" to account for your capture of the RSFSR

                    Do you think that it was the Bolsheviks who captured the RSFSR in the 90s? belay

                    you yourself have denied the right to own the RSFSR / Russia

                    The only one who has the right to own Russia is its multinational people.

                    And all the best.

                    And you do not praise. hi
  11. -3
    9 September 2021 07: 34
    It seems to me that today is the time to inform the most active "fighting cockerels" from neighboring states about their fate in the event of the outbreak of hostilities. Not to threaten, but to inform the population of these countries.


    It is high time to periodically inform the population of "presumptuous hawks" about the consequences that their country and population expects in the event of a "response" from Russia, with conclusions about the consequences and the number of victims. And precisely from time to time, so that they do not forget for a minute that modern weapons can destroy the entire infrastructure of the country and its population.
    1. +2
      9 September 2021 07: 44
      Quote: tihonmarine
      It is high time to periodically inform the population of "presumptuous hawks" about the consequences that their country and population expects in the event of a "response" from Russia

      The decision is made not by the population, but by those who make the decisions, they perfectly see our teachings and understand everything perfectly.
    2. 0
      9 September 2021 07: 50
      Quote: tihonmarine
      It is high time to periodically inform the population of "presumptuous hawks" about the consequences that their country and population expects in the event of a "response" from Russia, with conclusions about the consequences and the number of victims. And precisely from time to time, so that they do not forget for a minute that modern weapons can destroy the entire infrastructure of the country and its population.

      They won't believe it until there is a real example. After all, everyone knows that Russians are peaceful people and have always protected everyone. But when someone is "cut in" ... well, they will start popereschaty, and then shut up.
      1. +2
        9 September 2021 18: 09
        Quote: Egoza
        After all, everyone knows that Russians are peaceful people and have always protected everyone.

        And whom did the peaceful Russian people defend during the Soviet-Finnish war of 1939-40? Finns? And whom did the peaceful Russian people defend during the annexation of the Baltic States in 1939? Estonians, Lithuanians and Latvians? That's why we have whole villages of exiled Balts in the Krasnoyarsk Territory. And whom did the peaceful Russian people defend in Hungary in 1956? Hungarian leadership from the insurgent population? And who was defended in Czechoslovakia in 1968? And who was defended in Afghanistan in 1979-1989? This is only the 20th century I am taking, and not all of it. And if you delve into history ...
  12. +10
    9 September 2021 08: 07
    The West is in a state of collapse.
    Does the West know about this?
    1. 0
      9 September 2021 09: 23
      More correctly: the West is facing collapse. And with the collapse of the West, we will also have a hard time. And yes, the West knows. This is evidenced by the facts that Mikhail Khazin noticed. Look in search
      "Mikhail Khazin: What does Britain think about the future"

      Angela Merkel and Boris Johnson spent three months racing to meet with Putin. The key question was: who will Putin allow to rule Western Europe, London or Berlin.
      Merkel has passed. The next day, former British Prime Minister Tony Blair spoke in an English newspaper and wrote that Great Britain's policy leads to the fact that Great Britain is moving from the top league to the first (from 1st to 2nd).
      Johnson did not succeed because, although he turned to Putin 3 times, Lavrov answered the first time, Peskov the second time, and the third time no one answered at all - this was apparently a message to the Queen herself.
      The first two times Johnson was told: publicly admit that Litvinenko, Skripali, Navalny and other stories are the result of the activities of the British special services. If you don't admit it, we won't talk to you. Johnson did not admit it.
      This is a disaster.

      Now they have only one last option, and the British journalist Alistair Heath said this bluntly: it is necessary to blow up Western Europe from the inside.
      Alistair Heath, who is the editor-in-chief of The Telegraph, wrote that apparently in the near future there will be powerful Islamist speeches in Western Europe. And in western Germany, if you contact the police that your house was robbed and say that you saw how the refugees did it, then the police do not open a criminal case.
      And Europe is "blown up".

      What will happen to the Baltics, not to say in a fairy tale. And Russia will not help, because Russia's demands are very tough: to abolish all laws on "occupation" and more.

      Based on the speeches of M. Khazin
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    2. -5
      9 September 2021 15: 20
      Quote: Daniil Konovalenko
      Does the West know about this?

      Knows. And soon we will see crowds of refugees from Europe in Russia. White refugees ... Yes
      1. -3
        9 September 2021 17: 34
        Quote: isv000
        And soon we will see crowds of refugees from Europe in Russia. White refugees ...

        Do you mean that Russian officials, deputies and propagandists with real estate, residence permits and families in Europe will return to Russia? Et 'hardly (s). That is not why they were allowed to have dual citizenship.
  13. +5
    9 September 2021 09: 22
    Our internal pro-Western forces also began to stir.
    That is, all our power, all Moscow "business" and others? There is no one more western than these guys in the West ...
  14. +2
    9 September 2021 09: 33
    25 years ago I could not imagine that I would not be able to come to Nizhyn, where my grandfather was buried. 30 years ago, even more so. Became an enemy ... And this is Chernihiv region. No.
  15. -3
    9 September 2021 09: 44
    Russia is reviving, but repeating past mistakes, writing off billions of debts to its supposedly friends, flirting with Turkey, and the proceeds from the northern streams will go into the pockets of the owners of Gazprom.
  16. +4
    9 September 2021 10: 20
    Quote: Gardamir
    Enemies are everywhere. NATO members piss in the entrances, arrange traffic jams. Take a fare. Even the retirement age was raised. Now I will go to work, I will pass by bombed kindergartens. And in the country, as occupiers, the Russian language is almost inaudible.

    NATO members drunken demolish stops with people, build mansions for themselves on bribes, write off billions of dollars in debts and so on, so on, so on.
  17. +3
    9 September 2021 10: 21
    Do we want to be like Lithuania, Poland, America? Most will say - “We don’t want to.” But nevertheless, we strive with all our might to be like these countries. The entire economy is built on the American principle. Many will say that we must be spiritually different, and this is true. But it is known that Being determines Consciousness. How to be? The whole world is not ruled by presidents and prime ministers. The whole world is ruled by moneybags. And in order to be on the sunny side of the street, they are ready to elect at least the party of the devil. We are taught to abstraction. Throw it all in the trash. Only reality will return us to normal life. ...
  18. +1
    9 September 2021 10: 32
    How many times Russia conquered Europe, the same number of times it lost everything it had conquered in ten, twenty, fifty years. When we answer the question "Why does this happen all the time?", Then everything will work out for us.
    In the meantime, it is necessary to write in bold large print right on the cover in history textbooks: "What is won by blood, you dare not give to anyone and never!" Both in the Constitution and in all legislative codes, this postulate should be fixed. If our troops were stationed in Germany now, would the Germans and the Poles for a couple (a hair with a little hair) dare to behave this way today? No! Moreover, we have never occupied anyone. We liberated the Germans and Poles, the first from Nazism, the second from destruction.
    Well, it's okay, what's done is done. But the Far East! What is this permanent "game console" "Kuril Islands" that we play with the Japanese? Have you had enough of them in the XX century? Is it necessary for everything to repeat itself in the XXI? All these "games" must be stopped. And immediately. The same applies to the Kaliningrad region, where, as I understand it, a kind of "new Baltic" is emerging, a kind of mount for the "factory" of Russia from the western borders, where adventurers of all stripes from all over the world have turned their eyes and feet (I can be wrong, but that poor the information that reaches me is alarming).
    War is an extreme armed form of struggle, when you have lost in all other areas: economic, political, cultural, etc.
    1. +1
      9 September 2021 17: 50
      Quote: 1536
      How many times has Russia conquered Europe

      Never.
  19. +4
    9 September 2021 12: 28
    "The West is in a state of collapse"
    An urgent review of the brief history of the dollar's fall.

    This is Collapse, we drive crude oil, gas, aluminum, titanium, steel, aluminum and nickel, and dream (Elite, of course) to drive raw lithium, hydrogen, rare earths, etc.
  20. 0
    9 September 2021 12: 45
    History is the great science of the future. It is enough to recall the school course of this discipline in order to draw an interesting conclusion for yourself. Almost always, during periods of European crises, there followed a campaign of Europeans to the East. It was not only Russia, it was the global East. But basically Europe was against us. Whoever is not in the Russian land. From knights to nazis. From almost all European nations and nationalities.

    History is a selling defect of the current government, serving its interests, contributing to the legitimization of this government.
    The school history course is aimed primarily at fostering love for the fatherland, emphasizing the successes and defensive nature of the warriors and hushing up the defeat and aggression of the native state. (This is typical for all countries).
    And if you delve a little into history, discarding the propagandist husk, it turns out that all the great victories of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR won in alliance with the "West" and not once in the history of the Republic of Ingushetia, the USSR did not win this confrontation with the collective "West" (although these confrontations were all two, Crimean War and Cold War)
    1. -3
      9 September 2021 17: 49
      Quote: burger
      RI, the USSR did not win this confrontation with the collective "west"

      And with a single "west" (although geographically - east) in the 20th century, one cannot say that it worked out very well - see the Russo-Japanese War of 1904-1905.
  21. +4
    9 September 2021 13: 29
    Sometimes the question arises as to why us? Why not China?

    Because we are a lame duck, on one leg!
    Yes, they are afraid to get in the face and that's all. The rest we will swallow, provocations, humiliation of athletes, kidnapping of citizens. Until we deal with the economy, we will endure the West.
  22. +2
    9 September 2021 13: 43
    You just need an efficient economy, then there will be growth, as, for example, in the Emirates with oil or in Norway.
    1. -1
      11 September 2021 11: 04
      There are much fewer people there, so there is more than enough resource money for everyone.
  23. +11
    9 September 2021 14: 46
    The West is in a state of collapse. The events that are taking place today have destroyed the harmonious system of the world, where the West was unequivocally the "advanced and most developed part" of humanity.

    I don’t understand where all this comes from? What is this, the revival of clumsy Soviet methodologies about decaying capitalism? This is not true.
    What kind of collapse of the West can we talk about, while the aggregate economies of this very "collective West" about which we love to sing is titanium, more than 40% of world GDP, these are producers of 90% of information and aesthetic content you consume, generators of almost all key technologies and technological solutions used by the man in the street for the last thirty years. This is the largest (and only) military-political bloc with overwhelming superiority in technology, navy, and aviation over the combined forces of potential adversaries (although, in terms of artillery and tanks, they formally "seem to have" less).
    Tell me please, in thirty years, well, well, in 15 years has something radically changed in these proportions? In addition to the fact that the PRC began active naval building and is there an increasing dynamics of growth of its land and air forces? There is no such dynamic. On the contrary, the West designs and makes new aircraft, launches military and dual-use spacecraft in batches, launches destroyers and aircraft carriers. Of course, the biased eye will find enough rubbish in this too - but objectively, where are some tendencies of "collapse"? At one time, what you call the "West" piled on North Korea - did it destroy the West and its military-political model? No. But to this day there is a hungry and impoverished North Korea (although in its own way this state is worthy of respect and interest, but life there is not sugar, not even close) - and a rich and successful South Korea. Having lost the battle for a united Korea, the West did not collapse at that time - but rather effectively demonstrated the advantages of its "long-term" model. The West was not buried by the defeat in Vietnam - they chewed. So why do you think that some kind of Afghanistan or Iraq can bury the West now? This is an illusion. The West knows how to leave behind those territories that lack persistence and intelligence to develop effectively under its auspices - do you want to live yourself, do as you want? Yes please. So the moment has not come yet.
    For Afghanistan, it has not yet arrived. And the West, as it had 40% of GDP, will have it. And they will live there without Afghanistan - they will live well. Now, many jingoistic patriots view the withdrawal from Afghanistan and the prospect of leaving Iraq as a kind of loss, and although, of course, this is not a victory from any side, there is a pure regrouping for concentration. Ten years ago, the West got bogged down in this compound of the Middle East and Afgan - now it finally dawned on them that it was futile, that it would knit their hands and would NOT knit the hands of their potential opponents and competitors. They drew conclusions from this, apparently. And the cards were dealt.
  24. -6
    9 September 2021 15: 14
    Provocations and slander as a way of communication between the West and Russia

    Leave PACE, the Council of Europe and the IMF and other harmful offices and let them choke on saliva. Go to purely market relations, mongrels - bream! ... am
    1. +4
      9 September 2021 17: 47
      Quote: isv000
      Leave PACE, the Council of Europe and the IMF and other harmful offices and let them choke on saliva.

      They just won't notice. The GDP of Russia, 144 million, is less than the GDP of Canada, 38 million. GDP per capita is less than Costa Rica. The level of science in the SJR country ranking is about the same as in Brazil (we win a little in the number of publications, we lose a little in the quality of publications). Do you really think that a country with such a GDP, such per capita incomes and such a level of science is of great interest to the world community?
      1. -4
        9 September 2021 18: 09
        Quote: Sergey1964
        Do you really think that a country with such a GDP, such per capita incomes and such a level of science is of great interest to the world community?

        The world community ... Don't tell my horseshoes! The total amount of contributions to the Council of Europe was approved in the amount of about € 260 million, of which Russia accounts for about 10%, which is not a small amount. hi
        1. 0
          10 September 2021 06: 15
          Quote: isv000
          The total amount of contributions to the Council of Europe was approved in the amount of about € 260 million, of which Russia accounts for about 10%, which is not a small amount.

          Well, they will miss € 26 million. The GDP of the European Union in 2020 amounted to € 12891,95 billion. Against this background, the paltry € 26 million cannot be seen even under a microscope.
          In which case they will ask the local billionaires. The Top 20 European billionaires have a fortune ranging from € 13,6 billion to € 63,4 billion. To chip in on € 1,3 million a year is a piece of cake. Even the most rogue with a fortune of € 13 billion alone will be able to pay the Russian contribution for 500 years, and if they throw themselves off to all the Top 20 ...
          Why is there Top 20. Only one Finnish citizen Boris Rotenberg with a fortune of € 1020 million can pay the contributions of the Russian Federation at once for 20 years in advance, and € 500 million will remain for life. They promise to lift the sanctions for the sake of such a case - they will immediately fork out.
  25. +10
    9 September 2021 15: 39
    In which microscope did the author see the "growing" economic power of Russia? Military - partly yes, something is moving. Not fast. And the economic one ?!
    In 2013, the average salary in Russia was $ 900, after 8 years, in 2021, $ 600. And the dollar itself lost another 20% during this time. Without taking into account the course. So what about economic power - this is definitely not about us. Losing weight, and at a fairly steady pace. In 2 years, Ukraine will overtake us on the NWP, they have almost caught up with us. And a dollar of 100 rubles is just around the corner. Within a few days, after September 19, the ruble will go to its peak. Before the elections, he holds power, imitating stability, but after the elections he will fly. Until the end of the year, 80 will definitely be, and at 22 and further down. But the oligarchs are in perfect order. And the policemen.
  26. +2
    9 September 2021 17: 24
    Quote: SERGE ANT
    it is necessary to strengthen our army and navy
    "The people who do not want to feed their army will feed someone else's"

    In our case, we fed both our army and strangers, exchanging fighters for palm oil.
  27. +5
    9 September 2021 18: 25
    The West is in a state of collapse... The events that are taking place today have destroyed the harmonious system of the world, where the West was unambiguously the "advanced and most developed part" of humanity. Yes and rapidly growing economic and military power China and of Russia, the independent policy of these states, the reluctance to march in a common column, shattered the confidence of the Western countries in the strength and greatness of the United States.

    In my humble opinion of a realist, the author is wishful thinking (as many have already rightly written in the comments). The situation is somewhat different from that described, but propaganda is such propaganda ...
  28. -3
    9 September 2021 18: 28
    Provocations and slander as a way of communication between the West and Russia

    As soon as the channel of robbery of Russia began to be blocked and the local libertans were clamped down, so immediately they began to howl .. "Democracy is in danger" And when the Army and the Navy began to equip with modern weapons "Putin's cartoons" .. laughing lol
    Thank you for the sanction of the gentleman, they helped our economy a lot, we ourselves are starting to produce everything we need and it turns out like ..
    And the most interesting for all of you is still ahead of Russia is preparing! And there will be no mercy ..
    1. +3
      10 September 2021 06: 42
      Quote: Sotnikoff
      As soon as the channel of robbery of Russia began to be blocked and local libertines were clamped

      Are you talking about the Rottenbergs, Deripaska, Abramovich, Vekselberg and others like them? Well, yes, the EU and the US began to clamp down on them and began to block the channels of robbery of Russia. But they will think of something. Through shell companies, through relatives, somehow ... With that kind of money, it's not a problem to hire experienced lawyers, lawyers will prompt you.
      Quote: Sotnikoff
      , we ourselves begin to produce everything we need and it turns out like ..

      Blessed is he who believes, warmth to him in the world! ((c) Griboyedov, "Woe from Wit").
      Quote: Sotnikoff
      And the most interesting for all of you is still ahead of Russia is preparing! And there will be no mercy ..

      Once, the Minister of Finance, pale as death, appeared on television and declared:
      - The financial crisis will not affect us. Because. I tell you for sure.
      The population, who knew a lot about the statements made by officials, was quietly exhausted and set off to buy salt, matches and sugar.

      The next day, the Minister of Trade, embarrassed, appeared on TV and said:
      - Stocks of bread and essential goods allow us to proudly claim that hunger and a shortage of goods do not threaten us. Here are the numbers.
      - Oh! - said the population and bought more flour and cereals.

      The Minister of Agriculture danced on the podium for persuasiveness and said joyfully:
      - An unprecedented harvest! Hopes for export! We are reborn! The bins are cracking!
      - In even how! - the population was horrified and ran to convert savings into foreign currency.

      - Property prices will fall! Penthouse for every student! Soon! - Not frowning, the Minister of Construction blurted out.
      - What is it, huh? - the population howled and ran to buy kerosene, kerosene lamps, firewood and coal.

      - Modern army on a contract basis. Tomorrow already. And grenades of the new system. There are no such people in the world yet. - the Minister of Defense said solidly. - Well, what do we need? Money is dark darkness. Reserves, stocks and surplus in general.
      - Mom! ...- the population squeaked and began to dig dugouts.

      - All o-fi-gen-but! You understand?! O-FI-GEN-NO !!! - the President suggested. - We could build communism today. The only thing that stops us is that all of us will not be able to do anything. Therefore, you can sleep well! It couldn't be more stable! Pensioners buy caviar in buckets! I foresee a qualitative leap, dash and jump. And quantitative - generally running! By leaps and bounds to prosperity and prosperity. The Caribbean is getting closer. From here we will threaten the world. One hundred and thirty centners of roses from each flower bed. We will generally reduce milk production. Cows cannot carry udders. The population is outraged by the cheapness. South America is asking to join us as a state farm. Hooray!

      - But what are you cooking there, animals ?! - shouted the population and, just in case, changed into everything clean.
      ((c) Zhvanetsky)
  29. +3
    10 September 2021 02: 47
    In 2021, the main thing is to find an external enemy) P0x, that there are problems in the country and the seams are cracking, the enemy is at the gate. We need mobilization, at least in our heads
    1. 0
      10 September 2021 12: 24
      Exactly. There must be mobilization in our heads. One GERMAN Till Linderman, sang a song To a distant land, a comrade flies away ... my soul stirred, and I began to sing along !!! One GERMAN sang, and it sank in his soul. The question is, where does the money go for all our "patriotic crafts" by Fedya Bondarchuk and others like them? Where to? Why should my eyes look at this plastic cranberry, and my soul should not feel anything? Why did I feel when a simple German got up and sang our song ???
  30. 0
    11 September 2021 20: 23
    Provocations and slander as a way of communication between the West and Russia

    Funny topic, what to talk about. They do what they want. bully At the Russian Federation, in the basis: "Severe concern." recourse
    The question will be, what to brandish nuclear weapons? An even more "worried" question.
    The example of the USSR and China - the authors of a similar question as an introduction wink
    The same Kim Jong-un (North Korea) put Trump's boor in a puddle. Yes, DPRK, not RF. "... That's why they don't bite .." (as in advertising).
    What is the West? let's take the "underbelly" of the RF - Wed. Asia. CSTO and other partners. TOHow is the national issue and our real compatriots there?, and not flooded cities and regions of the Russian Federation with difficulty speaking, but already living from 10 ml. And how many illegal immigrants ..? OURS are being pressed there. we watch and read in the media, TV, the Internet
    Biological laboratories in the USA, almost all ...In the world, only a "new strain", so, since we are in TREND ... Where from ?!
    How many they have already invested sovereign money and as a return.?
    Bogdasarov compared, ours actually 1 tril in THEM and the investments of China.
    Done, "our "partners from Central Asia lead, like Oh, the country, once telling through the mouth of their then president, to the representative of the Russian Federation - Chernomyrdin: "... We, you, forgive OUR debts ...! laughing “I will not forget the face of Chernomyrdin, who was delusional from such rudeness, a man whom it seemed impossible to take on such a“ swoop ”.
    Try it, so with China for its money, see how our partners from Central Asia PAY the debts to them. Some by territories, some by deposits - by industries. And they do not even think to be rude, however expensive.
  31. 0
    12 September 2021 01: 52
    Quote: burger
    Quote: Siberian54
    Who informed you about this holding?

    A certain George Frost Kennan. In his famous "Long Telegram" he outlined the essence of this doctrine.
    The dropshot is generally a defensive plan, but not the essence. Until the early 60s, the USSR did not have the opportunity to retaliate against the United States, but the signal did not follow. Can you catch the difference?
    So you didn’t answer why you want to turn all large cities of Russia into radioactive ruins?
  32. 0
    12 September 2021 18: 43
    And we are all like Leopold the cat - "Guys, let's live together," ugh.
  33. 0
    13 September 2021 21: 58
    And what does "communication" have to do with it? This is war. The war is waged to destroy the enemy.
  34. 0
    14 September 2021 00: 08
    Quote: Stas157
    the decaying West is about to be covered with a copper basin "and then:" The Motherland is in danger! "

    Exactly!
    In a fit of ecstasy and senile exaltation, the Zionist Solovyov and the London silkfighter Brilyov have already rubbed corns on their filthy tongues, telling the people foolishness about the next, 101 circle of enemies that has surrounded us.
  35. AML
    0
    15 September 2021 21: 19
    Quote: burger

    As far as I remember, after the collapse of the USSR, some nuclear forces remained on the territory of Ukraine. Ukraine abandoned them in exchange for guarantees of its territorial integrity. Yes, it is difficult to imagine that the "West" and the Russian Federation would allow them to leave it.

    At the time of the collapse, about 1100-1200 warheads were deployed on the territory of Ukraine. and yes, no one would have let them be saved, but looking at the current situation in Ukraine, they did the right thing to disarm

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